Volusia



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ARE WE READY?

GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. TODAY IS MAY 5TH, 2016. MAY 5, 2016. HAPPY CINCO DE MAYO FOR EVERYONE. YOU ARE WELCOME, RAY. THIS IS THE MORNING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. I'M DIGGING THROUGH PIECE OF PAPER TO READ THE DISCLOSURE STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE.

THE LIVE OSHA COUNTY COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT AND IS INTERESTED IN HEARING YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SLIPPED AND THE ISSUE YOU WISH TO ADDRESS. AFTER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. YOU MAY SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES, EITHER DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OR WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM IS HURT. THE COUNTY COUNSEL DOES NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. LEASE BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL OF THE VIEWS OF OTHERS. PERSONAL ATTACK ON COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNTY STEP ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE NOT TOLERATED. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER THIS MORNING. IS THAT WE HAVE MA'AM?

YES ARE -- YES, SIR.

MR. RAY SALAZAR. IT'S ONLY ONE THIRD OF THE WISEMAN.

THEY ARE RETIRED AND OFF ON VARIOUS, THEY ARE HOME CELEBRATING CINCO DE MAYO AND WE ARE HERE. THANK YOU. THEM HERE IS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE COMMISSION ON HOMELESSNESS.

YES YOU ARE.

WE READ IN THE NEWSPAPER.

YOU STILL HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

I AM SORRY, RAY SALAZAR.

AND YOUR ADDRESS.

TWO PUEBLO TRAIL AND ORANGE BEACH FLORIDA.

THANK YOU SUMMA -- THANK YOU, SIR. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THERE IS PROGRESS OCCURRING WITH HOMELESSNESS IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. I BROUGHT YOU A TWO PAGE UPDATE AND I WILL START WITH THE ACTUAL COUNT OF HOMELESSNESS WITH 2,016,005 AND CONTRASTED 2384. IN 2012 A 50% REDUCTION AND VETERAN HOMELESSNESS IS IT ZERO. WE ESTABLISHED GOALS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE CAMPED AT THE COUNTY BUILD CENTER IN DAYTONA BEACH WE CAN REPORT PROGRESS THERE AS WELL AND THE ENCAMPMENT WAS RESOLVED. 86 TEMPORARY BEDS WERE ESTABLISH SINCE LATE JANUARY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH 200 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND 207 PLACED IN HOUSING AND 109

PROVIDED TRAVELERS EIGHT AND 88 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS HAVE RAMPED -- BEEN RAPIDLY RE- HOUSED AND NINE INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABLING CONDITIONS WERE PLACED IN PERMANENT HOUSES. AN INTERESTING SIDE NOTE IS ALMOST RELATED ARRESTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN DAYTONA DOWNTOWN AREA IS TRENDING DOWNWARD AND IN THE 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EMERGENCY SHELTER OPENING THERE HAVE BEEN ARRESTS SINCE THE PUBLIC -- SINCE IT HAS BEEN OPEN. WE HAVE REBRANDED AND WREAK CREATED THE CONTINUUM OF CARE INTO A COMMISSION AND EXPANDED MEMBERSHIP TO INCLUDE PRIVATE SECTOR COMMUNITY LEADERS INCLUDING SEMEL IT, JUDGE BECK, JIM ROSE AN ATTORNEY, JANET KRAMER AND DEBRA HOLE IN WHO'S HOUSING ATTORNEY. SAM WILL IT IS THE CHAIR AND WE CONTINUE TO BE DEVELOPED COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND BY THE END OF THE JULY WE WILL HAVE THAT CONTINUED. OBSERVATIONS MADE BY RANDY AND I WERE TWO SHELTERS AND CO- LOCATING DAY CENTERS IN EAST AND WEST FALLUJA. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT SIGNIFICANT PROJECT -- PROCESS -- PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. THERE IS AND WE HOPE TO HAVE IMPLEMENT PERMIT CRISIS RESPONSES AND EAST AND WEST FALLUJA BY YEAR-END. WEST FALLUJA IS MEETING WITH PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF DELAND. THEY ARE DEVELOPING OPTIONS THAT WOULD INCREASE OPTIONS CRISIS BEDS INCLUDING OTHER OPTIONS AND RESOURCES. THEY WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP ON MAY 23RD AND THE WORK GROUP IS DEVELOPING A MATRIX TO DEVELOP A SIZE AND LOCATION FOR EAST VOLUSIA AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ONCE WE ESTABLISH IT WE WILL CONVENE HIGH-LEVEL MEETING OF GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE LEADERS TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE SIZE AND LOCATION. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AND WE'VE LISTED NEXT STEPS. WE HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED AS WELL AS WE SHOULD.

THERE IS A LOT THERE TO REED AND YOU CAN'T DO IT IN THREE MINUTES.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. I'VE GOT FOR OF US. UNLESS THERE IS SOME OBJECTION I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP POSSIBLY HAVE RAY AND HIS OTHER COMPADRES COME IN HERE AFTER CINCO DE MAYO AFTER THEY CELEBRATE AND GIVE US A NAP -- AN UPDATE. YOU WERE RUNNING SO FAST, BELIEVE IT OR NOT UNLESS I WAS READING ALONG I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND HALF OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO TAKE MORE TIME. YES, MR. WHITE?

I KNOW WE USUALLY DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. AND I ASK ONE QUESTION ?

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT THAT WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AND ADDRESSING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND I THINK IT IS WELL WORTH A QUESTION OR TWO HERE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. ON THE DETERMINATION MATRIX, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TIMETABLE IS?

BY MAY 18TH WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN CONVENE A LEADERSHIP GROUP WITH HOMELESSNESS STANDING HERE BEHIND ME. CERTAINLY NOTABLE INTERVIEW -- CERTAINLY NOTABLE INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE THE DATA TO TO SEE IF THEY COULD SUPPORT.

I AM TERMED OUT AND I'VE BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION TO TRY TO GET THE -- THIS THING GOING. I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE BUT I HOPE EVERYONE REALIZES THAT POSITION OF THIS COUNSEL CAN CHANGE. SPEED IN TIME IS SOMEWHAT OF THE OUTLETS.

MISQUEUE ST., GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. GOOD MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION THAT IS GOING ON TODAY. SOMETIMES WE DO VERY WELL WHEN WE'RE PUSHED INTO A CORNER AND SO I THINK THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I HAVE ONE OBSERVATION THAT I HAVE TALKED WITH MANAGEMENT ABOUT. AND WEST FALLUJA THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND THE SALVATION ARMY AND SOME OF THE CHURCHES, UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, THEY ARE WORKING IN COLLABORATION FOR THE WEST SIDE. THERE YOU HAVE SHOWERS ONCE A WEEK AT THE METHODIST CHURCH HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WORK WITH THE SALVATION ARMY AND I WILL TRY TO SPEARHEAD THAT AND MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO ADD FOR SHOWERS. THEY HAVE A NEW BUILDING HERE BUT THERE ARE NO BATHROOMS -- WE HAVE BATHROOMS BUT NO SHOWERS. HOPEFULLY THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE RADAR OR IT WILL GET ON OUR RADAR SCREEN AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE SHOWERS. AND THE SALVATION ARMY SEEMS TO ME WOULD BE A PERFECT PLACE TO TRY TO DO THAT. I THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING TO HELP THAT POPULATION.

I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP WITH THE MANAGER AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SEE IF WE CAN GET YOU GUYS IN HERE FOR MORE COMPREHENSIVE. HE SAID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON MAY 18TH?

WE HOPE TO HAVE A STUDY DONE THEN. A MATRIX THAT WOULD PROVIDE DATA TO SUPPORT A SIZE POTENTIAL COST AND LOCATION FOR EAST FALLUJA.

OKAY. YOU WOULD HAVE THE DATA AND BE ABLE TO DISSEMINATE THAT RIGHT AROUND THE MIDDLE OF JUNE MAYBE?

ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL WORK WITH THE MANAGER TO SEE IF WE CAN GET YOU IN HERE WITH THE PLAN IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNE HERE HERE.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. ANYBODY ELSE HERE WISH TO SPEAK THIS MORNING?

NO SIR.

VERY WELL. WITH THAT THEN I GUESS WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS UNTIL 9:00 P.M. WHERE WE WILL CONVENE FOR OUR NORMAL VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNTY MEETING. WE ARE IN RECESS.

GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BROUGHT TO YOU -- IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY PASTOR JOHN REYNOLDS. IF THE COUNCIL WOULD PLEASE RISE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE ON THIS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER AND WE PRAY -- PRAY THAT OUR NATION WILL EXPERIENCE THE GREATNESS THAT WE NEED. FATHER, I DO PRAY FOR OUR NATION -- NATION ON THIS DAY THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE TO BE A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER AND LORD I WOULD ASK IT NOT JUST BE ONE-DAY THAT WE PRAY. YOUR BOOK SAYS IF MY PEOPLE WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN. FIRST -- FORGIVE OUR SINS AND HEAL OUR LAND. LORD I PRAY FOR THAT IN OUR COUNTRY. I THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNTY AND I THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO CARRY OUT THE BUSINESS ON THEIR BEHALF. AND I PRAY FOR THEIR WISDOM AND I PRAY, FATHER, FOR THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS AND THEIR LIVES AND IN THEIR FAMILIES. I KNOW THAT ALL OF US HAVE SITUATIONS WHICH NEED YOUR HAND AND YOUR DIRECTION AND YOUR GUIDANCE. AND SO, FATHER, WE BRING THESE THINGS TO YOU TODAY FOR YOUR WISE DISCERNMENT I WANT TO THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNTY THAT WE LIVE IN, A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK AND SERVE. I THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF PASTORING IN THIS COUNTY AND THE GOOD EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE HAD HERE. AGAIN, LORD, I ASK YOU TO BLESS THE PROCEEDINGS TODAY AND I PRAY, FATHER, THAT ALL OF US WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO MAKE DECISIONS TODAY CANNOT POSSIBLY POLICE ALL OF US. BUT FATHER I PRAY THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM WISDOM TO PLEASE YOU, IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.

AND IF WE COULD PLEASE FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED.

[ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

JOSH IS THE SAME WAY [ LAUGHTER ]. [ LAUGHTER ].

WE WILL CONTINUE ON. ME I HAVE A ROLLCALL PLEASE?

[ ROLL CALL ]

ALL PRESENT.

MOVING ON FROM THERE WE WILL NOW PULL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. FOR THE LISTENING PUBLIC AND ANYONE HERE WHO IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION OF MODIFICATION OF CODE OF ORDNANCE, CHAPTER 50, DIVISION SIX, THE SEA TURTLES TO EXPAND THE DESIGNATED COURT AREA OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF DAYTONA BEACH. THAT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA SO ITEM EIGHT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AND IT MAY BE HEARD ON A LATER DATE. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC POLL?

NO SIR. I DO NOT HAVE ANY SLIPS.

HAVE THE STAFF PULLED ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

MS. JENNY?

MR. LOWERY?

NOTHING.

MR. LOWERY -- MISQUEUE ZACH -- MS. CUSACK AND I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN THE REMAINING ITEMS TO BE APPROVED.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF AGENDA FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. TO HEAR SECOND?

THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ANY ITEM. SINGH THAN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY YES.

MR. DANIELS IS NOT PRESENT.

WE WILL NOW GO WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE AND IT IS RICHARD SEAGRAVES A JUNIOR IS A DEPUTY TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. HELLO, MR. DANIELS.

HE IS RETIRING MAY 16TH .

I WAS GOING TO SAY GOOD MORNING. COMMUNITY INFORMATION DIRECTOR AND WE HAVE TWO RETIREMENTS. THE RISK -- THE FIRST IS RICHARD GRAVES AND IT CAN COME FORWARD AND HE WILL RETIRE MAY 16TH AFTER MORE THAN 32 YEARS OF SERVICE AND I HANDED OFF TO SHERIFF BEN JOHNSON FOR THE COMMENTS.

GOOD MORNING. YOU WON'T SEE ME UP HERE AND ADDRESS.

[ LAUGHTER ]. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE TODAY AND I WAS KIND OF SCARED WHEN I WALKED IN AND I SAW THIS GROUP BEHIND ME. I WAS AFRAID THEY MIGHT BE HERE AND THEY WERE HERE

SHERIFF GRAVES --

RICHARD IS PROBABLY WHY I HAVE HEART CONDITION. HE WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN OUR CHARITY EVENTS. 1 YEAR AT A CHARITY EVENT AT THE SPEEDWAY, WE HAD A CAR DEAL WHERE THEY BROUGHT A DRUNK OUT OF JAIL TO DO THIS. HE JUMPED AROUND AND HIT A CAR AND THIS DRUNK GETS OUT AND STUMBLES AROUND AND WE HE GOES. THE FOLLOWING YEAR I'M AT THE TOP OF THE STADIUM AND THEY SET THIS EVENT UP AGAIN AND DAYS -- THEY GOT THE DRUNK OUT AGAIN AND INSTEAD I LOOK UP AND HE IS GETTING IN THE CAR. RICHARD HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING SLOW. HE IS SUPPOSED TO HIT THIS RAMP AT ABOUT 20 MILES AN HOUR. HE HITS IT ABOUT 50 MILES AN HOUR. AND INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE CAMPER HE GOES OVER THE CAMPER. INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH IT LIKE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HE GOES OVER IT. AND THE CAR FLIPS UPSIDE DOWN AND LANDS ON ITS ROOF. WE ARE SITTING WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH HIM NOT KNOWING YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET HURT IF I COULD HAVE CAUGHT WHO HAD SET THAT UP I WOULD'VE FIRED HIM AND RICHARD GOES FULLBORE WITH EVERYTHING HE DOES. HE IS LIKE A COLOMBO. THAT'S HOW I CLASSIFY HIM. I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS THAT. HIS DEPUTIES CALL HIM PIGPEN BUT HE IS LIKE COLOMBO -- BECAUSE WHEN HE SETS OUT ON A CASE HE GOES THROUGH IT VERY UNASSUMING. HE IS THE LAST PERSON IN THE WORLD YOU WANT AFTER YOU IS THIS MAN. HE IS ONE OF THE FINEST INVESTIGATORS I HAVE EVER SEEN. HE MISSES NOTHING. HE GOES AT IT AND HE WON'T GIVE IT UP UNTIL SOMEONE IS IN JAIL AND DONE RIGHT AND CORRECTLY. YOU HATE TO LOSE PEOPLE LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN AND BEEN THE SUCCESS OF THE AGENCY AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CALLS YOU UP WANTING SOMEBODY ON A CASE YOU FEEL GOOD WHEN RICHARD JUMPED ON THIS CASE. WE ARE TRYING TO DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO GET HIM BACK. WE LOVE FOR HIM TO COME BACK AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE COLD CASE SQUAD BUT HE WILL BE HARD TO REPLACE. THIS MAN HERE HAS THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY'S HEARTS EVERY TIME HE STEPS OUT THERE TO DO A CASE. AS AN -- IT'S AN HONOR AND PLEASURE TO TALK ABOUT RICHARD AS A FRIEND AND AS A FANTASTIC LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. SOMEBODY WE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS TO COME. RICHARD? [APPLAUSE]

YOU ARE RECOGNIZE.

THERE IS A REASON THEY DID NOT TAP INTO ME TO BE A PIO. I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT. I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SHERIFF -- I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THE SHARE FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND BEING A FRIEND AND NOT ONLY A BOSS AND I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT. I HAVE WORKED MY ENTIRE 32-YEAR CAREER WITH THIS MAN AND ONE CAPACITY OR ANOTHER. I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO 45 BUT YOU KNOW ME, I WAS AFRAID TO HIT UNDERNEATH. THE BIGGEST HONOR I HAVE HAD IS WORKING FOR THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY AND I APPRECIATE IT AND I THINK EVERYBODY AND AS I MOVE ON TO THIS NEXT JOURNEY IN MY LIFE, VOLUSIA COUNTY WILL DEFINITELY BE IN MY HEART AND SOUL AND I WON'T SAY ANYMORE SO I DON'T GET EMOTIONAL.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE. [ LAUGHTER ] OH, NO. YOU CAN APPLAUD FOR HIM. HE DID A GOOD JOB.

I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYBODY TRIES TO GET OFF THE PODIUM. IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT US? IS YOUR FAMILY HERE?

YOU HAVE ANY FAMILY MEMBERS HERE?

THEY'RE ALL SPREAD OUT.

THEY COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY FOR HELP REASONS. NOT SERIOUS HEALTH REASONS JUST HEALTH REASONS AND BASICALLY WHEN YOU DO THIS JOB A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM ARE MY FAMILY.

CONGRATULATIONS ON 32 YEARS. MISS DENYS?

THANK YOU, MR. SHARE. YOU ARE FINISHING STRONG AND IT APPEARS YOUR WHOLE CAREER WAS SERVING CITIZENS AND WHEN I LISTEN TO SHERIFF JOHNSON SAY YOU ARE NOT THE MAN THAT THEY WANT TO SHOW UP ON THE CASE, THEY ARE THE FIRST ONE THEY WANT TO SHOW UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE VERY GENUINELY. FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY YOU'RE GOING TO BE MISSED. AND JEFF JOHNSON THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM AND WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU PUT THE PEDAL TO THE METAL.

I DON'T LIKE TO DISAPPOINT PEOPLE.

I'VE GOT A FEELING YOUR RETIREMENT ISN'T GOING TO BE RETIRED.

MR. LOWERY?

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LOSE A GOOD STAFF MEMBER. THE RUMOR IS YOU WILL START SOME KIND OF EVIL KNIEVEL BUSINESS NOW THAT YOU ARE OUT OF THE TASK FORCE.

I WAS TURNED DOWN BY THE JOEY SHOW. IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE AT THE JUMP I KNOW WHAT I DID WRONG.

MR. PATTERSON?

BEEN GOT ME INTO A SCHOOL BUS RACE ONE TIME. I STILL HAVE THE VIDEO OF IT. MY WIFE STILL HAS THE THOUGHTS THAT IF I EVER DID IT AGAIN SHE WOULD KILL ME BEFORE I GOT KILLED DOING IT.

YES. AND YOU DID LIKE YOU DID IN SCHOOL AND YOU FLUNKED OUT. [ LAUGHTER ]

I GOT ON THE TRACK AND I SAW THE CRAZINESS AND I WENT TO THE AND AND SAY I WOULD RATHER FINISH LAST THE NOT FINISH AT ALL. IT WAS A REAL EXPERIENCE. WHEN I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE SHOWED THE VIDEO TO A BUNCH OF LEGISLATORS AND SOMEHOW I WAS GIVEN THE LOVE BOTH FOR SATURDAY NIGHT RACERS. I GET E-MAILS EVERY NOW AND THEN SAYING HOW ARE YOU DOING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU CAME ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ABOUT A YEAR AFTER I CAME TO VOLUSIA COUNTY AND SO I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO EVER MEET YOU BEFORE TODAY BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR SUIT -- SERVICE FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. WAGNER, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'M GOING TO GO RIGHT STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE.

IF I DON'T PASS OUT. I THINK THREE OF US ARE SICK AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY AWAY. THANK YOU FOR NOT WEARING A DRESS, BEN. I APPRECIATE THAT. I LOOKED UP A BUNCH OF COLOMBO QUOTES. I HAVE NEVER SEEN COLOMBO. I GUESS IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE.

YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH.

I DID YOUTUBE A COUPLE OF THINGS BUT THE QUOTES WERE GREAT. I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT YOU QUICKLY AND IT PUT YOU IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU LIKE THE SHOW. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU LATER. SPOT -- IF YOU DID NOT SEE COLOMBO YOU HAVE NOT HELD YOUR AGE WELL.

[ LAUGHTER ]

[ LAUGHTER ]

I WILL GIVE YOU THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GUN. I KNOW WHEN TO STOP WHEN SOMEONE HAS A GUN. THAT BEING SAID I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT TO DO WHAT YOU DO AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

MISS CUSACK?

THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY. YOUR JOB IS NOT ONE THAT A PERSON CAN BE ASSURED THAT WHEN THEY LEAVE HOME THEY WILL COME BACK. YOU HAVE DONE THAT WITH GRACE AND DIGNITY AND YOU HAVE BEEN A SURVIVOR AND YOU HAVE PROTECTED ME AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL. EVEN THOUGH JOSH DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COLOMBO. I KNOW ABOUT COLOMBO.

I WILL SEND IT ON A DVD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. THERE SOMETHING TO BE SAID WITH HAVING HAD SOME EXPERIENCE. AND SO WE BID YOU FAREWELL ON THIS JOURNEY AND I KNOW THAT WHATEVER YOU DO OR PURSUE THAT YOU WILL BE JUST AS SUCCESSFUL. IT IS A PLEASURE FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN THE PROTECTOR OF SO MANY. WE THANK YOU AND WE WILL BE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL. GO YOUR WAY AND HAVE A LOT OF FUN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

AND I DO REMEMBER COLOMBO. GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT AND THANK YOU, BEN FOR NOT COMING UP AND ADDRESS ALSO. I APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THAT'S COME ON UP AND WE WILL TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH AND YOU HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT. WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS TO TAKE PICTURES.

IF THE CHAMBERS COULD PLEASE COME TO ORDER. ITEM TWO AND ITEM THREE KIND OF GO TOGETHER. WE WILL START OFF WITH ITEM TWO. JOANNE? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

JOANNE MAGALY, COMMUNITY INFORMATION DIRECTOR. OUR SECOND RETIREMENT IS MISSED ANN MCFALL. AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE FOR ANN MCFALL TO COME FORWARD WITH HER FAMILY. SHE RETIRED AFTER MAY 3RD AND I WILL HAND IT OVER TO START OFF THE RECOGNITION.

THANK YOU, JOANNE.

SORRY IF I SOUND GRAVELLY. I AM HERE TODAY. SHE BEGAN HER PUBLIC SERVICE IN THE 19 80s ENTERING EIGHT YEARS SHE OPENED 11 SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND WENT ON TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN. SHE DID GREAT THINGS WITH THE COUNCIL FROM 1997 THROUGH 2002 AND SERVED HER FINAL YEAR AS CHAIRMAN AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CANVASSING BOARD SHE OVERSAW THE VOTE COUNT FOR THE INFAMOUS AND NOTICE I SAID INFAMOUS 2000 RESIDENTIAL ELECTION WHEN ALL EYES WERE ON FLORIDA AND VOLUSIA COUNTY. IT WAS A LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE FOR ANN WHO WENT ON TO RUN FOR SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS. SHE WAS IN ADVOCACY FOR HONEST -- HONESTY AND IN -- IN ELECTIONS. SHE AND HER HUSBAND BOB ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO TRAVELING AND IT HAS BEEN MY REAL PLEASURE TO WORK WITH AND. I WILL SPEAK IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I AM GLAD I WAS NOT HERE IN 2000 ALTHOUGH I AM GLAD I AM HERE SINCE 2006. I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED WORKING WITH AND, SHE'S A CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL AND IT IS EASY TO BE IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING WHETHER TIMES ARE GOOD AND THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF NEEDS. SOMEDAY PEOPLE WILL LOOK BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNTY WENT TO FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS ON THE LARGEST DOWNTURN IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND I REALLY DON'T THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATE WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THROUGH THAT IN AN WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER HELP IN HELPING ME AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SO WE BECAME A MODEL FOR THE STATE WHERE WE WERE THE ONE COUNTY YOU DID NOT SEE ANY ARGUMENTS AND EVERYBODY BUCKLE DOWN AND THE SHERIFF AND MORGAN'S OFFICE AND EVERYONE BUCKLE DOWN AND MADE IT THROUGH. AND MADE THE 600 PEOPLE THAT WE ARE LESS TODAY, NONE LAID OFF SO NO ONE'S FAMILY WAS DESTROYED, THAT 600 PEOPLE CAME FROM ALL OF THE OFFICES AND I APPRECIATE THE HELP AND THE REAL GENEROSITY IN BEING A REAL TEAM PLAYER. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. AMONG ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THE STUFF I LEARNED FROM AND AND HAVE SERIOUS SHE TAKES ELECTIONS AND I THINK PEOPLE WOULD REALLY BE SHOCKED HOW FAR HER AND HER STAFF GO TO PROTECT THE ELECTIONS PROCESS. THE MOXIE IN THIS COUNTRY IS LIVE AND WELL PROTECTED MORE NOW THAN EVER AND ANN TAKES IT SERIOUS AND THEY ALSO THINK THAT WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM WAS IMPORTANT I APPRECIATE THAT, ANN.

THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

IF I COULD ASK LISA LEWIS, THE INTERIM ELECTION SUPERVISOR JUST APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR I KNOW SHE HAS A FEW THINGS TO SAY.

IF I MADE -- IF I MAY, I WOULD ALSO -- HE DOESN'T KNOW I'M GOING TO DO THIS ASK JEANNIE LOW TO COME UP. IT IS SO UNIQUE THAT THERE ARE THREE SUPERVISORS ALIVE AND HAPPY.

MORNING, EVERYONE. IN CASE YOU MISSED THE RETIREMENT PARTY, WE PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT OF HER YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. SHE HAS OVER 26 YEARS. SHE STARTED WAY BEFORE THAT WITH HER PUBLIC SERVICE WITH HER PTA INVOLVED WITH HER STUDENTS AND CHILDREN AND THAT LED INTO THE SCHOOL BOARD WHICH LED TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEN TO THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND SHE WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU THE SCHOOL BOARD IS THE NEAREST AND DEAREST TO HER HEART BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN AND WITH HER GRANDCHILDREN NOW SHE IS TWO IN KINDERGARTEN AND ONE IN PRESCHOOL AND I'M SURE THEY WILL BE TRAVELING BACK AND FORTH. I HAVE TO TELL YOU A STORY. I SPOKE WITH ANNA YESTERDAY AND SHE WANTED TO KNOW HOW HER FIRST DAY WENT AND I ASKED HER IF SHE SLEPT IN AND SHE SAID NO. SHE SAID 430 SHE WAS UP BUT SHE DID JUST RELAX AND THEY WENT TO BREAKFAST AND SHE CAME HOME AND TOOK A NAP BECAUSE SHE COULD. [ LAUGHTER ] AND TODAY SHE SLEPT IN UNTIL 530. BUT I WILL TELL YOU IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LATER, SHE WAS ALWAYS THE FIRST ONE IN THE OFFICE. I BEAT HER IN THE OFFICE TWICE I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS A FRIDAY AND SHE BROUGHT IN DOUGHNUTS AND SHE GOT HUNG UP IN THE DUNKIN' DONUTS LINE AND SOMEBODY ACTUALLY BEAT HER TO THE OFFICE. SHE'S A HARD WORKER AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. SHE HAS BEEN A LEADER TO ALL OF US AND I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE FROM THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT THAT CAME OVER TO BID HER FAREWELL. STANDUP, EVERYBODY.

JUST MINDING THE STORE.

NEVERMIND THEN.

THAT IS HER PROBLEM NOW [ LAUGHTER ]

IN THE PUBLIC I DID WANT TO THANK ANN FOR HER SERVICE. SHE HAS SET THIS ELECTION PROCESS IN MOTION AND HAS LEFT IT IN GOOD STANDING JUST THE WAY DINNEEN DID IT. EVERYONE WHO COMES MAKES IT A LITTLE BETTER, NOT THAT IT WASN'T GOOD BEFORE AND IT GETS BETTER EACH TIME AND I HOPE TO FOLLOW IN BOTH OF THEIR FOOTSTEPS IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY HAVE PUTTING THIS ELECTION PROCESS OPEN HONEST AND TRANSPARENT FOR THE -- PEOPLE OF VOLUSIA COUNTY. WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR, AND.

[APPLAUSE]

FIRST OF ALL TO THE COUNTY CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I SEE SOME OF YOU EVERY EVEN NUMBER YEARS CANVASSING BOARD MEMBERS AND I EXPECT LISA WILL BE CALLING YOU SOON. IT IS JUST SUCH AN HONOR TO STAND HERE WITH THESE TWO PEOPLE IN MY HUSBAND BOB. IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE. I HAVE TO TELL YOU -- BY THE WAY, THERE HAS BEEN 10 SUPERVISORS OF ELECTIONS IN THE PAST 110 YEARS. IS NUMBER EIGHT. I AM NUMBER NINE AND LISA IS NUMBER 10. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH. TO HAVE THREE SITTING HERE, THIS IS MIND-BOGGLING. BUT I WILL TELL YOU A STORY I TOLD MS. CUSACK EARLIER. MY 5-YEAR-OLD GRAND DAUGHTER WENT TO CAREER DAY AND SHE WAS IN A RED WHITE AND BLUE DRESS AND MISS RICHMOND HER TEACHER SAYS WHAT ARE YOU? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE?

I WANT TO BEAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS. AND SHE SAID YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO BE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS LIKE YOUR GRANDMOTHER?

NO I AM THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS. [ LAUGHTER ] SO WITH THAT AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN APPLAUD HER.

[APPLAUSE]

I TOO AM GRAVELLY THIS MORNING AND I APOLOGIZE. ANN IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU ON THE CANVASSING BOARDS THAT WE WORKED ON AND MR. ECKERT SAYS IT IS LIKE WATCHING PAINT DRY. SOMETIMES WE SIT THERE AND SIT THERE AND SOMETIMES WE SIT THERE EVEN. IT HAS BEEN GREAT KNOWING YOU FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN YOU BEFORE I WAS IN OFFICE. I RAN WITH YOU SOMEWHERE AND WE MET EACH OTHER AT A GROCERY STORE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. BE CAREFUL WITH THE GRANDKIDS. NO MORE BROKEN BONES. OKAY? AND HAVE A GREAT RETIREMENT. SLEEP IN. GO FISHING. AND SEEING YOU DO THIS AND JUST RELAX AND ENJOY IT. YOU HAVE EARNED IT AND YOU HAD A GREAT CAREER AND WE WILL MISS YOU HERE. I GUESS I WILL START ON THIS END AND MOVE STRAIGHT DOWN. MISS TRAINING?

I WAS JUST SHARING WITH MY COLLEAGUE HERE MR. DANIELS THAT IT IS INTERESTING, WE ARE ALL WOMEN. GOOD JOB, LADIES. TRUE PROFESSIONALS. VERY GENUINE AND TRUE TO PROFESSIONALS AND ANN I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG TIME AND ONE-WORD I THINK OF WHEN WORKING WITH YOU IS INTEGRITY. IT'S ALWAYS INTEGRITY AND WE MET THE FIRST TIME UNDER VERY UNSECURE CIRCUMSTANCES COMING OFF OF THE STAGE AFTER AN ELECTION YEAR 1994 AND THERE IS A LOT THAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES AND MATH WHEN WE BECAME COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS IN DIVERGENT WAYS BUT WHAT RAISED YOU TO A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM AND INTEGRITY IS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE WALKED OFF THE STAGE BEHIND THE SCENES AND WHAT YOU HELPED ACCOMPLISH BEHIND-THE-SCENES. I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID, WITHOUT DISCLOSING EVERYONE -- EVERYTHING. WHETHER YOU ARE IN FRONT OR BEHIND YOU ARE SERVING THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY AND EVEN WHEN YOU LEFT THE SCHOOL BOARD YOU SERVED VOLUSIA COUNTY BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DID AND HOW YOU ASSISTED ME. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, LADIES, YOU REPRESENT WELL. YOU HAVE A STRONG LEGACY AND I AM SURE YOU WILL STRENGTHEN THAT. YOU HAVE BROAD SHOULDERS TO SERVE ON AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT AND YOUR BEAUTIFUL GRANDCHILDREN. AND I CAN SEE HER BECOMING THE -- JUST TEACHER EVERYTHING.

ABSOLUTELY.

ENJOY YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

MR. DANIELS?

ANN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN FOR ANYTHING AGAIN ARE YOU?

GIVE ME A BIBLE.

SINCE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RUN I'M GOING TO TELL THE STORY. [ LAUGHTER ]

I'M GOING TO PLAY BLACKJACK WITH DEAN LATER.

OKAY. THIS IS BACK DURING THE 2000 ELECTION. I WAS SITTING IN MY OFFICE MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS AND MICHAEL CAME BY AND SAID LET'S GO OVER TO DELAND AND SEE THE CANVASSING BOARD. WE WENT OVER TO THE CANVASSING BOARD AND AT THAT TIME THE 2000 ELECTION WAS IN CONTROVERSY ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ALL OF THE OTHER COUNTIES HAD TURNED DOWN ANY RECOUNT. THEY WERE NOT GOING TO DO ANY RECOUNT. IT WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BUT WE WERE HERE TO ASK VOLUSIA COUNTY TO DO A RECOUNT. AND WE GOT UP THERE AND WE MADE THE PITCH AND ANN WAS A SWING VOTE AND AND WAS A REPUBLICAN AND IT SHOWED EXTRAORDINARY INTEGRITY FOR HER TO VOTE IN THAT MANNER.

REPUBLICANS DO THAT. [ LAUGHTER ]

OCCASIONALLY YOU FIND A GOOD WANT. BUT ANN WAS A SWING VOTE AND WHAT THEY DID WAS KICKED OFF THE RECOUNT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA. ANN DOES NOT GET HER PLACE IN HISTORY AND SHE IS NOT MENTIONED FOR THAT BUT SHE IS THE ONE WHO REALLY DESERVES THE CREDIT FOR THAT THAT. THE OTHER THING, AND PEOPLE CAN MAKE THEIR OWN JUDGMENT ABOUT THIS ONE WAS SHE WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY COUNSEL AND SHE GAVE ME A CALL AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE AN ELECTED CHAIRMAN PITCHER GOT TOGETHER A GROUP. IT WAS ME AND CHARLES AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS TO START PUSHING THAT OUT AND WE GOT THE BALL ROLLING AND GOT THE CHARTER CHANGE TO. WE HAD A SPECIAL CHARTER COMMISSION APPOINTED, AN INTERIM CHARGE COMMISSION APPOINTED AND WE GOT THE CHARTER CHANGE. JASON, YOU OWE YOUR JOB TO ANN MCFALL. IF IT WAS NOT FOR ANN IT NEVER WOULD'VE GOTTEN STARTED. CLAIM OR CREDIT EVERYONE CAN FIGURE OUT THEIR OWN STORY. ANN I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND YOU WERE A GREAT SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS. I KNEW YOU WOULD BE AND I SAW YOU IN THE 2000 RECOUNT AND I KNOW HOW ORGANIZED YOU WERE THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONES WHO WAS THERE ORGANIZING EVERYBODY AND MAKING SURE THE TRAIN RAN ON TIME EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T OFFICIAL, YOUR JOB JOB, YOU REALLY DID A TERRIFIC JOB. I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU.

YOU FORGOT ONE OTHER RECOUNT.

WHICH ONE?

DOUG WAS MY DAUGHTER'S ATTORNEY WHEN SHE -- WHEN SHE WON HER FIRST RACE BY A COIN TOSS BY DINNEEN.

SHE WAS ONE VOTE BECAUSE -- BEHIND AND IT WAS A COIN TOSS. WHO TOSSED THE GOING?

YOU DID. AND IT WENT UNDER COUNTER.

QUITE A DELTONA STORY.

WE HAD TO MOVE THE CABINET.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WILL PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AS A VICTORY. [ LAUGHTER ]

THANK YOU.

NOT ONLY THAT BUT MY PREDECESSOR WHO IS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, MR. FRANK BRUNO, HE ALSO OWES HIS PAST EMPLOYMENT TO YOU ALSO, ANN.

WE RESULTS THAT.

NOW WAIT A MINUTE. SUNK IS NOT A WORD. DEPTH AND ONOMATOPOEIA. I WILL EXPLAIN THAT LATER. MR. LOWRY?

FOR SOME OF US WHO WERE NOT RAISED IN POLITICAL CIRCLES AND WHEN YOU GO TO RUN IT IS VERY WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE STAFF THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A TOTAL IDIOT WHEN YOU'RE FILLING OUT FORMS. I'M SURE THAT WHEN WE LEFT THE ROOM SOME OF THEM WERE SCRATCHING THEIR HEAD AND SAYING THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REPRESENT US? THE STAFF HAS BEEN HELPFUL. ANY QUESTIONS MAKE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND RELAXED AND IT'S KIND OF CRUCIAL AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR RUNNING TIGHTS -- A TIGHT SHIP. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THE GROUP. THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

MR. PATTISON?

DON'T TELL EVERYTHING. [ LAUGHTER ]

[ LAUGHTER ]

HE'S GOT A PILE AND HE'S JUST CIRCLING.

EVERY TIME I REFER BACK TO MY FIRST YEARS ON THE COUNCIL EVERYBODY LOOKS AT ME LIKE GRANDPA JONES APPEAR. I DO REMEMBER ANN, 96 YOU GOT ELECTED IN MY FIRST YEAR AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY COUNSEL. LIKE MOST NEW MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNSEL YOU ARE A HANDFUL FOR EVERYBODY TO DEAL WITH, MYSELF INCLUDED. I ENJOYED THAT YEAR AND WE HAVE BECOME GOOD FRIENDS AND I TOO HIS SAT ON THE CANVASSING BOARD AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALWAYS FELT ABOUT THE CANVASSING BOARD AND THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IS THE OFFICE PROTECTS THE MOST SACRED PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY WHICH IS THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AND THE CANVASSING BOARD AND IT'S THAT IMPORTANT THE JOB. I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED DOING THE CANVASSING BOARD. IT IS LONG AND TEDIOUS BUT I ENJOY IT AND WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER AND IT'S NOT THREE WOMEN, IT'S BEEN FOUR? CATHERINE ODOM WAS THE FIRST SUPERVISOR WHEN I FIRST RAN YEARS AGO AND THEN DINNEEN AND HEWITT -- ANN AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN RUNNING 11 ELECTIONS. I KNOW HOW TO FILL OUT A CAMPAIGN FORM. THANK YOU, AND. YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MR. WAGNER?

I DON'T HAVE AS GOOD OF STORIES AS THEM, SORRY, ANN.

COME ON.

IT STARTED SEVEN YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN AND IT LASTED 10 YEARS. ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A REMAKE IN 2003. I DON'T EVEN WATCH TV NOW. SORRY. I'M NOT FEELING WELL AT ALL. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.

ALL REALLY?

[ LAUGHTER ]

I CAN TELL YOU BEING IN PUBLIC OFFICE AND BEING AROUND POLITICIAN I AM SURPRISED YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN OUT A LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE SOME -- DISLIKE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE [ LAUGHTER ]

IT'S BE RUDE ON EVERYBODY DAY BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL WELL. RUNNING FOR OFFICE IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS I EVER DONE. EMOTIONALLY AND PHYSICALLY IT'S HARD AND DIFFICULT. IT'S DIFFICULT TO WIN BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO RUN. I CAN TELL YOUR STAFF AND YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WALK ME THROUGH AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LOWERY THEY THOUGHT YOU WERE DOOMED. YOU CAN'T FILL OUT THIS FORM? PEOPLE THAT DON'T RUN HAVE NO IDEA AND I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE THE NEATEST THING YOU CAN EVER DO FOR COMMUNITY IS RUN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA. EVEN THEN WHEN YOU GET IN AND IT'S EVEN MUCH GREATER. SO I WILL STOP WITH THE RAMBLING AND SAY THANK YOU. I HAVE APPRECIATED GETTING TO KNOW YOU AND YOUR HELP THROUGH THE YEARS AND TO YOUR STAFF FOLLOWING YOUR EXAMPLE AND BEING THERE EARLY IS ALWAYS A GREAT SIGN OF LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU AS WELL AND I WILL TALK TO YOU SOON. THANKS.

MS. CUSACK.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANN, FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE AND BEING A QUALITY PUBLIC SERVANT. WE WERE NEIGHBORS IN FLORIDA IN THE OLD RISK MANAGEMENT ELECTION BUILDING. I'M SURPRISED THAT MR. MANAGER THAT MOLD WASN'T IN THAT BUILDING. IT WAS KNOWN AS THEIR. WELL. MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU, ANN, IN 2000 I DECIDED TO NO LONGER GIVE THE SHOTS AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

THERE ARE DAYS I WISHED YOU HAD OR YOU WERE.

I KNOW. I KNOW. SO YOU CALL ME AT HOME AND SAID TO ME JOYCE, THEY TOLD ME ABOUT 1:00 1:00 THAT I HAD WON THE ELECTION. ABOUT 7:00 YOU CALL ME TO TELL ME THERE WAS A RECOUNT. I SAID OH RECOUNT? SO YOU KNOW I AM THINKING RECOUNT MY ELECTION. [ LAUGHTER ] I SAID ON MY ELECTION? AND YOU SAID OH, NO. THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

I SAID OH, THAT'S OKAY. [ LAUGHTER ] SO I DIDN'T CARE WHO WON THE PRESIDENCY. [ LAUGHTER ] [ LAUGHTER ]. SO WE GOT THROUGH THAT AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN, I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW TIMES THAT MY HEART LEFT MY CHEST AND WAS IN MY FEET. I JUST COULD NOT IMAGINE HAVING TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER 24-48 HOURS OF WAITING TO SEE IF I HAD WON THAT ELECTION. BUT THANKS BE TO YOU AND TO THE GREAT CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY, YOU DID NOT HAVE TO RECOUNT MINE. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I SERVED ON THE CANVASSING BOARD AND THAT IS WHEN I DEVELOPED A WHOLESOME APPRECIATION OF THAT PROCESS. THERE ARE ALWAYS THINGS THAT FOLKS SAY THAT YOU CAN'T TRUST THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT ARE NOT RIGHT AND SO FIRSTHAND WE WENT TO GET THE BALANCE. WE WENT TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO DO EVERYTHING. YOU WERE MORE PROTECTIVE OF THOSE BALLOTS THEM YOU WERE OF YOUR KIDS. [ LAUGHTER ]

THAT'S TRUE.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY ARE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HAD YOU TO BE THE PROTECTOR AND THE KEEPER OF OUR PROCESS OF ELECTIONS. I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS. IT IS BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE. SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU HAVE PLACED IN HISTORY FOR ME, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE WORLD THAT VOLUSIA COUNTY HAS A SAFE, HONEST, PROCESS AN ELECTION. AND THAT'S ALL YOU WANT AND GOVERNMENT. IS TO BE HONEST AND TO HAVE IT DONE IN A MANNER THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO HELP PEOPLE. I THINK YOU. I WISH YOU WELL AS YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT AND YOUR GRANDBABIES. IT DOESN'T GET BETTER. IT GETS WORSE. IT GETS WORSE. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT THEY ARE THE JOY OF YOUR LIFE. AND THE GUY BEHIND YOU, I'M GLAD THAT HE IS THERE AND HAS ALWAYS HAD YOUR BACK.

WE ARE TRANSITIONING.

I'M TELLING YOU IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING USED TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO WITH HIM RIGHT BEHIND YOU TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. I KNOW. I'M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE NOW. [ LAUGHTER ] SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT AND WE WILL GO SOMEPLACE SOMETIME TOGETHER TO HAVE SOME FUN. TAKE CARE AND BE BLESSED. INC. YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

ANN, I GUESS YOU GET TO BE THE PUBLIC AND SIT IN THERE ON THE CANVASSING BOARD. BOB WON'T BE ALL ALONE. WE WILL MAKE SURE IT'S AN OFF DAY FOR YOU. BOB DON'T FORGET TO SAY THE THREE WORDS SHE ALWAYS WANTS TO HEAR. LET'S GO FISHING. YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I THINK BEFORE WE TAKE OUR PHOTOS I NEED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM THREE BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR. AND THAT MOTION --

MR. CHAIR?

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION?

THE PROCLAMATION THAT SAYS I NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

MR. TROY MOVE APPROVAL OF THE PROCLAMATION FOR ANN MCFALL TO HONOR HER ON ANN MCFALL DAY MAY 52,016TH.

I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND? 'S SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNALED BY THING YES AND THOSE OPPOSED. I DARE YOU. YOU ARE IN THE WRONG ROOM IF YOU OPPOSE THAT. WITHOUT FURTHER --

I HAD A SLIDE WITH THE GRADE POINT AVERAGE ON IT. [ LAUGHTER ]

I WILL STAND TO READ THIS FOR YOU, AND READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. WHERE IS ANN MCFALL HAD SERVED -- MY RADIO VOICE I LEFT IT AT THE HOUSE. IT'S BAD. WHEREAS ANN MCFALL HAS SERVED THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY WITH DIGNITY AND INTEGRITY FOR 26 YEARS AND WHEREAS SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS BEGINNING IN 1986 AND SERVED AS THE CHAIRMAN FROM 1991 TO 1992. AND, WHEREAS, ANN MCFALL CONTINUED HER PUBLIC SERVICE AS A MEMBER OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNCIL FROM 1997 THROUGH 2002. AND WAS ELECTED CHAIRMAN BY HER PEERS IN 2002. AND, WHEREAS, IS SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS FROM 2004 TO 2016 SHE FOUND INNOVATIVE WAVES TO IMPROVE THE ELECTION ACTRESSES AND WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN PURCHASING USER FRIENDLY VOTING EQUIPMENT AND AN ADVANCED TABULATION SYSTEM. [ LAUGHTER ] WHEREAS, SHE BECAME A STATE CERTIFIED SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS IN 2011 AND SERVED ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE FLORIDA STATE ASSOCIATION OF SUPERVISORS OF ELECTIONS. AND, WHEREAS, SHE AND HER HUSBAND OF 45 YEARS, BOB HAVE TWO CHILDREN, THREE GRANDCHILDREN. NOW, THEREFORE, WE THE COUNTY COUNSEL OF VOLUSIA COUNTY -- FLORIDA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 5TH, 2016 IS ANN MCFALL DAY IN VOLUSIA COUNTY AND URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO HONOR THIS OUTSTANDING WOMAN FOR HER DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE DATED THIS FIFTH DAY OF MAY, 2016, SIGNED BY ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS ON THE COUNTY COUNSEL. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

[APPLAUSE]

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? IT IS YOUR DAY.

GO AHEAD AND WAIVE THIS AS YOU DRIVE BY THE DEPUTY SHERIFF AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR YOU.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN PAT AND I WERE BOTH ON THE COUNCIL AND I GOT A SPEEDING TICKET IN DELTONA FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND TWO WEEKS LATER SHE GOT ONE AND WE BOTH WENT AND TALKED TO UNCLE BEN. [ LAUGHTER ]

IT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT.

[ LAUGHTER ]

WITHOUT FURTHER -- WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS TO HONOR AND AND GIVE HER HER PLUCK -- PROCLAMATION AND WE WILL TAKE THE PHOTOGRAPH. BY THE WAY, I THINK IT'S REALLY COOL LISA THAT YOU AND DAN BOTH DRESS THE SAME.

I DID NOT GET THE MEMO SO WE ARE GOOD.

WE WILL BE IN A SHORT RECESS.

IF THE CHAMBERS COULD COME TO ORDER, PLEASE. WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP AN ORDER OF BUSINESS AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. ORDINANCE 2016 -- 10 AMENDING THE VOLUSIA COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION CONSISTENCY CERTIFICATION ROLES AND ORGANIZATION. MR. ECKERT ARE YOU THE REPORTING AGENT?

YES SIR, I WILL INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT.

VERY WELL YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE VOLUSIA GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION TO AMEND RULES OF PROCEDURE. THE MEMO THAT YOU HAVE BRIEFLY SUMMARIZES THE MAJOR POINTS OF IT. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK TO OR ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND AMONG THEM IS HEATHER RAMOS WHO IS THE FALLUJA GROWTH MANAGEMENT MISSION COUNSEL AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WANT A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION, THEN I WILL GIVE, SHE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND SHE IS THE ARCHITECT OF THIS DRAFT AND HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH IT. ALSO, JIM LOCKE TELL WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF THE VOLUSIA GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION IS HERE AND WISHES TO ADDRESS YOU AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION HERE WHO IN THAT CAPACITY HAVE URGED THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS IN LIEU OF A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT. THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE ADOPTED BY THE COUNCILS AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY YOUR 2/3 VOTE AND THE AMENDMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF YOUR 2/3 OF THOSE -- VOTE IN THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION'S VIEW IS THAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IS NOT SO MUCH THE CHARTER AMENDMENT BUT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE SO THAT IS WHY THIS IS HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT POINT IS THE IDEA OF LIMITED STANDING TO THE COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES AND THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENFORCING THE SCHOOL PLANNING AMENDMENT. I KNOW THAT IS A TOPIC THAT HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST BUT I THINK THE PREMISE WHICH UNDERLIES THAT IS THAT THIS IS A CONFLICT RESOLUTION BODY DESIGNED TO RESOLVE INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES OR BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES AND THAT THE APPROPRIATE PARTIES TO THOSE PROCEEDINGS ARE THE ENTITIES THEMSELVES. THIS ELIMINATES THE INTERVENER STANDING NOT ONLY BY THIRD PERSONS BUT WHO ARE NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER BUT BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, HIM/HER OR HIMSELF WHICH IS PART OF HOW YOU GOT TO THE NOTION OF HAVING THE INTERVENTION. THE OTHER CHANGES HAVE TO DO WITH PROVIDING A STREAMLINED REVIEW PROCESS FOR SMALL-SCALE PLAN AMENDMENTS SO THAT WHEN THERE IS NO OBJECTION BY THE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, IT STILL WOULD RECEIVE STAFF REVIEW BUT IT WOULD BE, THE PROCESS WOULD BE MORE EXPEDITED THAN IT IS AT THIS POINT. SHORTENING THE TIME FOR REVIEW FOR THE SO-CALLED LARGE SCALE AND IT'S DEFINED BY THIS ORDINANCE AND IT DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE STATUTE BUT IT IS UNCOMMONLY USED SO THE STAFF HAS A SHORTER TIME TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THE STAFF THAT IS THE GROSS MANAGEMENT STAFF WOULD NOT BE REQUESTING A HEARING UNLESS THERE IS A NECESSITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO RESOLVE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PLACED BY THEIR OWN RESOLUTION SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ELIMINATING OR MODIFYING THOSE CONDITIONS AS COMMISSION SEES FIT. AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSION ITSELF IS ITS MEMBERS TRY TO REQUIRE YOU TO ESTABLISH TERM LIMITS WHICH ALLOWS THE APPOINTING GOVERNMENT TO REMOVE THOSE MEMBERS AT WILL IF THAT IS THE RULES ESTABLISHED BY THE APPOINTING BODY. I THINK THAT COVERS THE MAJOR POINTS. AS I SHOULD SAY THERE IS DETAIL UPON WHICH MR. RAMOSE COULD BRIEF YOU IF THAT IS YOUR DESIRE AND SHE'S READY TO DO SO. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 2/3 VOTE. WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE DID DISTRIBUTE A CHANGE TO YOU AND I ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE NECESSITY TO DO THIS AND THAT IS ON PAGE 13 OF THE DRAFT, THE WORDS, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED AND YOU HAVE A SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU AND THAT IS ON YOUR SCREENS, WE ARE INSERTING THE WORDS COMPLETE FOR APPLICATION AND TWO PLACES ON THE AGENDA ITEM PAGE FOUR -- 13. ON LINES 8-13. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. IF YOU APPROVE THIS TODAY AGAIN THEY WOULD NOT BE A CHARTER AMENDMENT, AT LEAST THAT IS THE COURSE THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN SUCH FAR FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. IT WILL COMPLETE ITS WORK NEXT MONDAY, IT IS ANTICIPATED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKING ON THE MATTER OF THE V GMC? M.

I KNOW MS. RAMOSE IS HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR MAKE A PRESENTATION.

A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

MORNING MR. CHAIR I CAN DO WHATEVER YOU LIKE ME TO DO.

I WAS GOING TO ELABORATE ON WHAT MR. ECKERT MENTIONED AND I CAN POINT OUT WHERE THE REVISIONS ARE IN YOUR PACKAGE IF YOU LIKE THAT I CAN DO THAT BRIEFLY.

FIRST THINGS FIRST. WE NEED YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD IN YOUR POSITION.

HEATHER RAMOSE AND I WORK WITH GRAY ROBINSON AND HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE VOLUSIA GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE HERE THAT CAN HELP AS WELL WITH QUESTIONS. WE HAVE THE CHAIRMAN WHO WILL COME UP AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION OR THE COUNCIL WHEN I'M DONE. WE HAVE THE VICE CHAIRMAN, JERRY BRANDON AND ALSO MARY CHRIS SMITH WHO IS THE OPERATIONS MANAGER AND OUR PLANNER, CHRIS AND DEBBIE CONNORS IS ALSO HERE WHO IS THE SECRETARY ON THE V TMC COMMISSION.

WITH RESPECT TO THE RULES WITH REVISIONS, THE COMMISSION HAS MADE CHANGES TO THE SMALL SCALE PROVISIONS TO STREAMLINE THE REVIEW PROCESS AND LUMPED TOGETHER WITH THE SMALL PLAN COMP AMENDMENTS ARE LARGE SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO JOINT PLANNING AGREEMENTS AND OTHER SIMILAR TYPES OF AGREEMENTS AND THAT'S IN SECTION 90-341 OF THE RULES ON PAGE 04 -- SEVEN ON YOUR AGENDA. FOR THOSE TYPES OF AMENDMENTS THE COMMISSION WILL ASSUME THEM CONSISTENT UNLESS REJECTION IS FILED WITHIN 21 DAYS. THEY WILL STILL HAVE DUTY TO SUBMIT NOTICE OF AMENDMENT AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS. THE PLANNING STAFF FOR BE GMC WILL PREPARE A REPORT BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE ITSELF. NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE ASKED FROM AN APPLICANT ON THOSE TYPES OF AMENDMENT PACKAGES. IN THE CASE OF AN OBJECTION A HEARING WOULD BE HELD UNLESS THE OBJECTION IS WITHDRAWN. FOR ANY OTHER LARGE SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PACKAGES AND APPLICATIONS THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE RULES EXCEPT THE STAFF MUST ISSUE AN REI WITHIN 14 DAYS AFTER RECEIPT OF A COMPLETE APPLICATION. WITH RESPECT TO STANDING IN SECTION 90--- 35 ON PAGE FOUR -- 13 OF THE AGENDA. STANDING HAS BEEN LIMITED TO UNITS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHICH IS DEFINED AS COUNTIES, MUNICIPALITIES AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. STANDING IS AUTOMATIC FOR ADJACENT JURISDICTIONS IN THE SCHOOL BOARD. NON-ADJACENT UNITS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE TO PROVE STANDING. THE SCHOOL BOARD REVIEW, WE HAD TO COME UP WITH WHAT IT WAS THAT WE WOULD BE COMING UP TO LOOK AT AND IT'S BEEN ADDED TO THE RULES IN SECTION 90- 37 AND THEY WILL BE LIMITED TO REVIEWING THE PACKAGE TO DETERMINE WHETHER ADEQUATE PUBLIC SCHOOLS CAN BE TIMELY PLANNED AND CONSTRUCT TO SERVE THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN STUDENT POPULATION AND THAT IS IN LINE IN WHAT -- WITH WHAT IS SET FORTH IN YOUR COUNTY CHARTER. NOTICE OF APPLICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN STREAMLINED AND THE ABILITY TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN LIMITED TO ONLY IF THE APPLICATION THAT IS RECEIVED BY THE COMMISSION AND THE PLAN AMENDMENT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO A PRIOR RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE V GMC. THE INTERVENTION PROCESS HAS BEEN REMOVED AND COMMISSION MEMBER REMOVAL PROCESS HAS BEEN REVISED TO STATE THAT THE APPOINTING GOVERNING BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THE APPOINTED VOTING REPRESENTATIVE AS SET FORTH IN THE APPOINTING BODY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE V GMC CHAIRMAN SO HE CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALL THE HARD WORK IT TOOK TO GET HERE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT BUT I GET TO DO THAT. 'S WE THANK YOU.

OKAY. I WILL TURN IT OVER.

I DID NOT WANT TO MOVE TOO QUICKLY IN CASE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS.

GOOD MORNING.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR POSITION FOR THE RECORD, SIR AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

MY NAME IS JIM WACHTELL, 1880 MANOR WAY AND GLENWOOD.

THERE IS A BUTTON ON THE SIDE THAT RAISES THE PODIUM UP SO YOU CAN SPEAK SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

I'M FINE. IS THIS OKAY?

WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.

IT'S DOWN ON THE SIDE OF THE BOTTOM.

OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

YOU MAY HAVE TO LEAN AND.

OKAY I WILL LEAN IN. JIM WACHTELL , 1880 MANOR WAY AND GLENWOOD. I AM THE COUNTY, ONE OF THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION SINCE 2010 AND I HAVE BEEN CHAIRMAN SINCE 2014. HEATHER AND MR. ECKERT HAVE GONE OVER MOST OF THE SUBSTANTIVE ITEMS OF THE RULE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH. THE COMMISSION POLICY AND PROCEDURES COMMITTEE HAS DONE THE BRUNT OF THE WORK UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF JERRY BRANDON AND MET WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, SUBCOMMITTEE AND VARIOUS OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE CITIES TO WORK OUT THE STREAMLINING OF THESE RULES. I WOULD ADD THAT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT IN THE LARGE-SCALE AMENDMENT IS AN ITEM THAT HAS COME UP BECAUSE OF STATE -- BECAUSE STATE LAW HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS BY IDENTIFYING THE SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND SO WE HAVE MODIFIED THE RULES IN ORDER TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. THE LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT REVIEW PROCESS IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AND HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED IN THE PROCESS PROCESS. ONE OTHER ITEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IS IN CHARTER LANGUAGE THE CHARTER IS GIVEN THE COMMISSION THAT THEY MAY PERFORM SUCH OTHER DIRECTLY RELATED DUTIES AS IT DEEMS NECESSARY AND THIS IS VAGUE AND OPEN-ENDED. WE HAVE A TO THE FIVE OR THOSE OTHER ITEMS ARE AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES. THOSE ARE ON PAGE FIVE AND WE HAVE ADDED PARAGRAPH NUMBER NINE INTO THE RULES. AS TO THE PUBLIC STANDING, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE CHARTER LANGUAGE AND FELT LIKE THE CHARTER LANGUAGE IS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED TO BE A RESOLUTION CONFLICT GROUP BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES AND BETWEEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OF THE MINISTERS -- OF THE MUNICIPALITIES. THERE IS A PHRASE IN THE RULES OF CERTIFICATION THAT CALLS FOR SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECTED AND AGGRIEVED PARTIES TO BE ABLE TO PETITION THIS. WE HAVE ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS VERY VAGUE AND ILL-DEFINED. IF BUY PRECEDENT IT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS THAT ARE BASICALLY AGAINST THE AMENDMENT CHANGE. WE HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THAT BE CHANGED SUCH THAT THE RIGHT TO PETITION IS LIMITED TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AND ADJACENT MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHERS. WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THE PUBLIC NOT ONLY HAS THE RIGHT BUT THE DUTY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO WE HAVE ADDED A PHRASE, A PARAGRAPH IN HERE TO ENCOURAGE THAT THEY TAKE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN MUNICIPALITIES AND IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN ELECTED BODIES RATHER THAN COME TO US TO DO THAT. THIS IS THE PLACE FOR THEM TO SHARE THEIR GRIEVANCES AND THEIR IDEAS ABOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS. THAT IS THE BASIS OF OUR CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN VOTED ON BY THE FULL COMMISSION AND RECEIVED A VOTE OF 13-2 IN FAVOR OF THESE CHANGES AND RECOMMENDING THEM TO YOU. WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WHO WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. MR. ECKERT?

A BRIEF WORD BEFORE YOU GO TO THE PUBLIC MR. CHAIR. THE REASON WHY IT IS HERE TODAY AND THAT IS AGAIN THESE RULES OF PROCEDURES ARE SUBJECT TO YOUR AMENDMENT. IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO READ -- TO SERVE ON THE REVIEW. I AM NOT AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK FOR THEM BUT I THINK THEIR VIEW IS THAT WITH THIS COURSE CORRECTION BY THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT IT WOULD BE UNNECESSARY, THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME ON THE SUBJECT AND GOTTEN VERY MUCH INTO DETAIL IN THAT THEY WOULD THINK THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO DO THIS AND IF THE COUNCIL DOES THIS THAT'S WHY THEY THINK THE CHARTER MEMO WILL BE UNNECESSARY. THEY CAN SPEAK MORE ELOQUENTLY TO THAT ISSUE THAN I CAN ON THEIR BEHALF.

MR. BROWN, YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CHARTER REVIEW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING MY POINTY AND SERVING. YOU'VE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

MR. BROWN.

HIGH BROWN, 213 RIVERSIDE BEACH.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO TWO THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND RESULTS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN LONG AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THESE DETAILS AD NAUSEA AND AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON AND THERE IS INPUT FROM ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTY. FIRST OF ALL THE PROCESS, WE STARTED BY HAVING LISTENING SESSIONS AROUND THE COUNTY. DELAND AND DAYTONA BEACH AND THERE WERE PEOPLE COMING AND THEY HAD ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO SAY AND I WAS VERY PLEASED TO TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS ALMOST NO CRITICISM OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT. NOTHING MUCH BUT THERE IS ONE THING THAT WAS CALLED TO MY ATTENTION AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I REALLY HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND MUCH ABOUT THE WORKINGS OF THE COMMITTEE. AT THE MEETING THEY SAID DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER. ARE SOME GOOD THINGS HERE BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE MODIFIED AND I THOUGHT I KNOW HER. SHE'S A SOLID CITIZEN. WE NEED TO TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THAT.

IN THE COMMISSION FIRST STARTED TO MEET, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GET RID OF THIS AND A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE AND THREE WHO WERE FOR STATUS QUO. AS WE STARTED INTO THE DEBATE AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PARTS OF THE COUNTY CHARTER BIT BY BIT THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT REALLY WAS AT ALL CONTROVERSIAL. WE APPOINTED A SUBCOMMITTEE SO THAT WE COULD GET ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM PUBLIC AND FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED AND THAT WAS SHARED BY GLENN RITCHIE, STAN ESCUDERO SERVED AND PAT DRAGO SERVED AND ALSO FRANK SERVED. THAT COMMITTEE HAD -- SUBCOMMITTEE HAD TWO MEETINGS AND REPORTED BACK AND WE STARTED TO COME TOGETHER. IN THE MEANTIME THE VOLUSIA GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION WAS THERE AT EVERY MEETING AND THEY STARTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WE MET WITH THEM AND WHERE WE STARTED OUT FROM HERE, WE ARE SLOWLY COMING TO A COMPROMISE THAT COULD BE AGREED ON AND IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE. IN THE COURSE IT BECAME AND WE THOUGHT INITIALLY THAT IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE CHANGES THAT HAD BEEN AGREED UPON THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CHARTER AMENDMENT. SO HEATHER RAMOSE WAS RELATIVELY NEW AS A LAWYER FOR THEM AND WAS IN A MEETING AND SHE SAID I THINK THAT IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE CHARTER REVIEW, I THINK THAT IN FACT WE COULD DO THIS BY AMENDMENTS AND THEN THE COUNTY COUNCIL WOULD BASICALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES OR NO. AND SO WE THOUGHT NOT A BAD IDEA AND SO THE VOTE WAS TO PROVE THESE PARTICULAR RULE CHANGES AND TO APPROVE A VERSION OF THEM THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A CHARTER AMENDMENT AND IT WOULD COME TO YOU ALL AND THAT VOTE, THERE ARE 15 MEMBERS OF OUR COMMISSION, TWO NEGATIVE VOTES AND THE REST WERE POSITIVE. IT IS UNANIMOUS, ALMOST, WHEN YOU HAVE 2-13 AND IN TODAY'S POLITICS THAT IS HUGE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ALL OF THE INTEREST HERE AND TRIED TO WEIGH AND MEASURE AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE REALLY DONE THAT. IN ORDER TO SAVE TIME, IF IT WOULD BE OKAY WITH YOU, MR. CHAIR, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST ASK THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THESE RULES CHANGES -- THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE RULE CHANGES COULD THEY RISE.

ANY OBJECTION?

PLEASE. EVERYBODY HERE IN SUPPORT PLEASE RISE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PRETTY BIG ROOM.

AND THANK YOU. I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

DOES YOUR VICE CHAIR NEED TO SPEAK? WE ALSO THINK YOU FOR SERVING AND FRANK? THANK YOU, SIR. I DO NOT KNOW EVERYONE ON THE BOARD BUT IF YOU ARE HERE ON THE BOARD TAKE YOU SO MUCH FOR SERVING. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. OR .5 MONTHS AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTING ON THIS MATTER? STAFF AND COMMITTEE REPORTS ARE DONE AND WE MOVE ONTO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. HERE IS THE DEAL FOLKS IF YOU HAVE RISEN AND I CALL YOUR NAME KIND OF COUNTS IS YOUR THING. OKAY? I HAVE A LIST. BARBARA . SHE DID NOT RISE. SHE IS OVER HERE. COME ON OVER HERE. FOR THE RECORD I NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS BARBARA -- BARBARA AND I LIVE AT 210 PJ BOULEVARD IN HOLLY HILL.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. SOME OF US CAN'T GET OUT OF WORK AND HAVE TO STAY HOME WITH CHILDREN CHILDREN. MAY NOT HAVE HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING ON THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN EARLIER. CITIZENS HAVE HAD A RIGHT OF STANDING BEFORE THE COMMISSION. A RIGHT OF THE CITIZEN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY, NOT OF ONE CITIZEN. THIS RIGHT IS OPEN TO ALL CITIZENS. CITIZENS ARE NOT ONLY THE CUSTOMERS OF THE COMMISSION, THEY ARE THEIR EMPLOYERS. IF THE CITIZENS VOTE COUNTS MORE THAN MONEY, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD PROBABLY VOTE TO RETAIN A RIGHT WITHOUT EVIDENCE THAT THAT STANDING IS IN SOME WAY DETRIMENTAL TO ALL THE CITIZENS CONCERNED. YOU SPOKE ABOUT THAT ONE-PIECE OF YOUR CHARTER BEING THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL. ISN'T THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE INVOLVED SHOULD HAVE A VOTE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. AND EARLIER WE SPOKE ABOUT AGGRIEVED PARTIES NOT BEING CONSIDERED TO WHAT IS THE INITIAL CONCERN ABOUT THE COMMISSION WAS. THAT NAME AGGRIEVED PARTY SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE AN INTEREST AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD GO TO OTHER MEETINGS BUT ISN'T THE COMMISSION SET UP TO BE A SYNTHESIS TO BE AN UNRAVELING OF THE GRIEVANCES? . THIS PERIOD NOW WITH TRUMP AND BERNIE AND PEOPLE SAYING THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT IS IT MEETING THEIR NEEDS AND THAT CITIZENS NEED TO HAVE A VOICE, YOU ARE THE ONE COUNTY THAT IS GIVING THE CITIZENS A VOICE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, IF EYES UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. EITHER PUT IT TO THE CHARTER OR AT LEAST BY VOTING NO ON THIS YOU WOULD PUT IT -- PERHAPS TO THE CHARTER. AND LET US VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAN. LINDA SMILEY. WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

357 MANHATTAN DAYTONA BEACH. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE VOLUSIA COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAY THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW AND TO LET THE CITIZENS CONTINUE TO HAVE A VOICE. I FEEL THAT ANY CHANGES SHOULD BE PUT TO VOTERS AND THIS AFFECTS ALL OF US. IT IS NEVER A GOOD THING TO STIFLE VOICES OF THE CITIZENS AS THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE TO VOICE OUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS ON THE ISSUES COVERED UNDER VOLUSIA COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAN.

DEBBIE CONNORS. WHERE ARE YOU AT, AS CONNORS? YOU HAVE TO STAND WITH THE GROUP. YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. MR. WEST. YOU DO NOT STAND UP WITH THE GROUP.

I KNEW YOU WERE COMING UP HERE SOMEWHERE.

[ INDISCERNIBLE-LOW AUDIO ]

AND THAT'S. FOR THE RECORD YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS ERIC WEST AND I LIVE IN PORT ORANGE. YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SELECTED BODIES WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT US ARE NOT EXPERTS ON MUCH OF THE THINGS THAT THEY VOTE ON. THEY SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW. AND THEY GET SNOOKERED PRETTY OFTEN BY DEVELOPERS AND LAWYERS AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND THEY VOTE FOR STUFF THAT THEY EVEN KNOW IS ILLEGAL BUT THEY ASSUME BECAUSE WE DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE THE MONEY TO SUE THEM THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. AND LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN DEBERRY A FEW YEARS AGO. THEY WERE READ THE STATE LAW ABOUT AQUATIC PRESERVES AND THEY DID NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD A MARINA AND THIS GUY PROMISED HE WOULD BUILD ROADS TAKE WATER AND THEN OF COURSE HE NEVER DID THAT AND OF COURSE THEY WERE READ THE LAW AND THEY KNEW THE LAW AND THEY STILL VOTED TO ALLOW IT. THE VG MC IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INDEPENDENT BODY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN MISTAKES ARE MADE THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY TO GO TO. AND WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY. IT AFFECTS US ALL. WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WHEN YOU FILL IN A WETLAND YOU ARE DIMINISHING OUR WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE THERE IS LESS WATER GOING INTO THE SYSTEM. WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED BY THE TRAFFIC WE ARE THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY EVERYTHING. AND TO TAKE OUR STANDING AWAY IS ANTI- DEMOCRATIC. WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THE POWER TO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS. IT IS TRUE THAT WE CAN GO TO A LOCAL CITY COUNCIL AND SAY SOMETHING, IF I LIVED IN DEBERRY AND I WENT THERE EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T LIVE THERE AND I SPOKE MY PIECE BUT YOU CAN'T OVERCOME SOMETHING UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD TO HIRE A LAWYER WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE THE VG MC AND THAT THING WAS EVENTUALLY TAKEN DOWN. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY EXAMPLES OF STUFF LIKE THAT. THE OTHER THING IS THE APPOINTMENT. YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO UNAPPOINTED PEOPLE WHICH MAKES THE VG MC NO LONGER AN INDEPENDENT BODY BODY. IF YOU POINT A PERSON TO THE VG MC AND THEY VOTE AGAINST THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO VOTE YOU HAVE A RIGHT THEY ARE SAYING TO GET RID OF THEM AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER AN INDEPENDENT BODY. HINKEY.

THANK YOU, SIR. CLAUDIA ROTH. MS. ROTH?

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER?

IF NOT AFTER MS. ROTH WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THIS HAPPENED LET'S MEETING. WE CLOSED PUBLIC DISSIPATION AND THEN WE HAD OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND SOMEONE SAID I WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT. I'M SORRY WE CLOSED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE AND SORRY FOR TAKING YOUR LAWN THAT -- YOUR LINE THERE, THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS HERE. GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE AFTER MS. ROTH IS THE END OF PUBLIC DISCUSSION. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

CLAUDIA ROTH. I AM HERE REPRESENTING LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AS THE PRESIDENT AND AS -- ON BEHALF OF THE LEAK WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS. THE PUBLIC HAS RELIED ON THE EXISTING RULES AND WHILE MUCH HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT THE PROPOSED RULE CHANGES AND THAT THEY WOULD RETURN THE ROLE OF THE VOLUSIA GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION TO THAT EXPRESSED IN THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED RULE CHANGES DO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE AUTHORITY OF THE VG MC AND SOME OF THE PROPOSED RULE CHANGES WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF AWARDING CERTIFICATE OF CONSISTENCY FOR SOME COMP PLANS BEFORE EVER COMING BEFORE THE AWARD BECAUSE STAFF IS INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THE VG NCS AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE TIGHT TURNAROUND TIME FOR THE UNITS OF GOVERNMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO FILE A REJECTION. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THEY ONLY MEET TWICE A MONTH, WE THINK THAT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH TIME. WHAT WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT ALTHOUGH THE RULES MAY BE CHANGED WITH THE APPROVAL OF TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNTY COUNSEL AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT IS THE ARGUMENTS FOR AND AGAINST ABOLISHING OR LIMITING THE ROLE SHOULD BE DECIDED BY THE VOTERS IN ORDER TO AVOID UNDERMINING FAITH IN GOVERNMENT. RECENT EVENTS SUCH AS JUDGES RESIGNING POSITIONS TO AVOID HAVING VOTERS DECIDE THEIR SUCCESSOR AND ALL OF THE WORK DONE BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THE VG MC BUT IT RESULTED IN AVOIDING PUTTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT SOVEREIGNTY ON THE BALLOT AND DEMONSTRATES MISTRUST BY VOTERS AND GIVES THE APPEARANCE OF ELITISM. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RESTORE FAITH BY GIVING THE VOTERS A CHANCE TO DECIDE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION?

NO SIR.

OKAY. SO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. MARK GARDNER DINNEEN.

I WAS ASKED BY A COUPLE OF COUNCILMEMBERS AND BECAUSE OF BEING ILL YESTERDAY DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GET BACK TO EVERYBODY AND IN ADDITION TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO INTERFACE WITH THEIR OWN LOCAL GOVERNMENT ON ANY OF THESE ISSUES, IN ADDITION TO THAT I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION HOW MANY TIMES CAN PEOPLE BE INVOLVED AS AN INDIVIDUAL CYST -- DECISION IN ANY OF THESE KINDS OF -- KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS. IF YOU HAVE A PRIVATE PLAN CHANGE AMENDMENT THERE IS A MINIMUM OF THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN COME TO. ONE IS THE LAND PLANNING NEXT IS THE COMP PLAN TRANSMITTAL WHICH IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO THE COMP PLAN ADOPTION MEETING THAT ALSO ALLOWS FOR INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS. ANY AFFECTED PERSON CAN ALSO CONTACT ANY AND ALL THE STATE AGENCIES OCCLUDING THE IO, WMD, DOT, THERE IS A NUMBER OF THEM AND INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO CONTACT THOSE AGENCIES INDIVIDUALLY AND IN ADDITION THEY COMPILE A LEGAL CHALLENGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTERED OF HEARINGS AFTER ADOPTION. IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE THE AND -- THE INDIVIDUAL CAN DO ALL OF THAT. IF IT'S A JOINT AMENDMENT THERE IS A MINIMUM OF SIX PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRED THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN COME TO WHICH IS THE COUNTY LAND PLANNING REACH -- AGENCY REVIEW. CITY LAND PLANNING, CITY COMP PLAN TRANSMITTAL AND CITY COMP PLAN ADOPTIONS. EACH ALLOWS FOR INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS WITH OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND I WAS ASKED BY A NUMBER OF COUNCILMEMBERS TO LOOK THAT UP AND PUT IT IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. MANAGER. YES. WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I READ THIS THING AND WHEN I FIRST READ THIS DOCUMENT -- IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BUT MY HAIR WENT UP.

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AS YOU CAN DO THAT THIS RESOLUTION TO WORK IT OUT TO COME TO THE MEETING YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO SAY. AND IT REALLY POINTS TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP AN AMUSEMENT PARK IN PEARSON THAT DOES NOT REALLY AFFECT ANYBODY DOWN THE LINE. THIS SAYS THAT THE PEOPLE IN PEARSON COULD SAY SOMETHING AND WOULD BE HEARD QUITE WELL. BUT IT REALLY DISCOURAGES PEOPLE FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY OR STATE TO SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T MAKE IT. WITH OUR COMMUNITY WE HAVE THE GMC. YOU THE CITIZENS ARE HEARD. AND BELIEVE ME THAT IF YOU RESOLUTION OR CONFLICT IN THE CITY ANY OTHER COUNTY IN WE'RE GOING TO SOME KIND OF MANAGEMENT OF LAND, THIS GALLERY IS FULL. WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE WE HAVE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WITH SEVERAL ISSUES. WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR HOURS LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE 3 MINUTES AT A TIME. AND WE LISTENED AND WE ADHERE TO WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

THEY PUT US HERE FOR THAT REASON. WE ARE THE FIRST LINE BEFORE YOU GO TO THE GMC AS YOU HEARD FROM THE MANAGER AND AFTER THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER MEETINGS TO GO THROUGH. SAID THAT 2 TIMES A MONTH WE MEET BUT WE TWICE A MONTH THE FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH IS WHEN WE'RE HERE WE GET A LOT ACCOMPLISHED. I THINK

THAT WE CAN GET A LOT ACCOMPLISHED 2 MEETINGS AMONG AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE NOT HERE FOR 14 OR 15 HOURS LIKE WE ARE SOMETIMES. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AFTER HAVING LONG DISCUSSIONS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN THE CREATION OF THIS AND TALKING WITH ATTORNEYS. I HAVE SEEN THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING IN THIS PUTS THIS THE WAY IT WAS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WITH THE INTENT OF THE LAW AND THAT THIS WAS CREATED BY THE CHARTER.& ACTUALLY BRINGS VGMC BACK TO THIS POINT. SO MS. DENYS YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A COUPLE OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. BUT IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH WHAT MR. BROWN SAID AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FOR SERVING AND IMPACTING THIS SENSITIVE ISSUE THAT IS SO IMPORTANT I BELIEVE TO THE VOLUSIA COUNTY FUTURE. WE LIVE IN A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. THAT IS WHERE SOME OF THESE ISSUES HAVE FALLEN TO THE PERIMETER AND IT'S NO SECRET THIS IS NOT MY PREFERRED OUTCOME. I WOULD DISSOLVE VGMC COMPLETELY GIVEN HISTORY AND SOME OF THE ISSUES AND THAT THERE WILL BE OKAY WITH THAT ON THEIR RECORD. BUT I'M ALSO SUPPORTING REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY IN THE COLLABORATION THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED AMONG THE PARTIES. I THINK THAT IS A WHOLE LOT. AND THAT THIS TAKES US BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT WHICH IS WHAT THE CHAIR WAS REFERRING TO. BECAUSE WITHOUT QUESTION THE CGM HAD STRAYED FROM THE LINES AND BOUNDARIES WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN SO HEATED AND STRONG. AND THE VGMC WHERE ONE OF 2 COUNTIES IF NOT THE ONLY COUNTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA

THAT HAS TO HAVE VGMC BECAUSE MOST OF THE OTHER 67 COUNTIES GOT WITH THE TIMES WHEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IMPLEMENTED THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHEN GOVERNOR. RICK SCOTT CAME ON BOARD AND NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS REDUNDANCY HAVE ANOTHER LEVEL OF BUREAUCRACY IF YOU WILL FOR OUR DEVELOPERS AND THAT PUTS THE COUNTY AT A DISADVANTAGE GOING FORWARD IN THE COMPETITIVE SITUATION. WE HAVE SEEN THIS MULTIPLE TIMES AND 2 RECENT IS USE WITHIN THE LAST 24 MONTHS. WITH THESE DISCUSSIONS OCCURRING. AS FAR AS REDUNDANCY GOES IS STILL A DISADVANTAGE THAT WE ARE TAKING SOME OF THE NEGATIVITY AWAY ARTIST PUTTING VGMC BACK WHERE IT WILL BELONG. WANTING THAT HAS BEEN MOST CONCERNING TO ME AS WE HAVE READ THE MINUTES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND YES WE MEET TWICE A MONTH BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE NOTHING ON THE CALENDAR THE FACT THEY WERE JUST TO SOMETHING ON THE FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORD AND YOU COULD READ IT YOURSELF. SO HERE WE ARE .

MY QUESTION IS ON APPEALS PROCESS. EXPLAINED TO ME HOW THAT HAS CHANGED. IN OTHER WORDS DOES THAT STILL GOING THE CIRCUIT COURT AND WHO IS THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY? IF THERE IS IT'S CHALLENGE ARE STILL TAKING IT OUT OF LOCAL HANDS AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE COURT?

>> IT STILL WOULD GO TO CIRCUIT COURT FOR REVIEW. I THINK THERE IS ANY MEANINGFUL WAY FOR THE CHARTER TO CHANGE THAT WITHOUT SAYING FOR WITHOUT CHANGING THE STRUCTURE WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE CONFLICT RESOLUTION. THE REVIEW IS BASED UPON EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO THE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION GOES TO THE CIRCUIT COURT WHICH REVIEWS FOR DUE PROCESS PROVIDED AND TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO MAKE THE DECISION OF THE COMMISSION. NONSENSE, IS A LIMITED REVIEW TO ENSURE ADHERENCE TO THE STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN GRADED. IT DOES NOT COME TO YOU OR ANY OTHER BODY TO REVIEW FROM THE SUBSTANTIVE ASPECT OF IT. AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANY REAL WAY TO CHANGE THAT WITHOUT CHANGING MORE FUNDAMENTALLY THE NATURE OF THE COMMISSION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY AND THAT'S MY POINT. THE BUT I WANT TO DO IS I HEARD COMMENTS THE HAVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN YOUR RIGHT BUT NOT AT THIS LEVEL. AND AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL OR THE COUNTY LEVEL. YOU HAVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO THE PROCESS OF THE VGMC BEING CHALLENGED AT THAT CIRCUIT COURT LEVEL. SO YOUR PROBLEM IS A CITIZEN IS NOT WHAT THE COUNTY OR THE MUNICIPALITIES. IT IS WITH THE PROCESS OF THE VGMC AND HAVING TO CHALLENGE THAT IN CIRCUIT COURT. I THINK THAT IN ITSELF IS A BURDEN THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE PAIRED BY THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO HAVE THIS OR IF YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE PROCESS FROM BEGINNING TO END AND A CHALLENGE FROM THE VOTERS STANDING FOR ANY GOOD STANDING IS A CHALLENGE AT THE END WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT THINK THAT IS A LITTLE TOO STRONG AND I STILL DON'T SUPPORT THAT. WE CANNOT CHANGE IT AND I GET THAT BEFORE THE RECORD YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT IS WHERE THE CHALLENGE IS FOR THE ATTORNEY THAT IT'S NOT HERE AND THERE WAS PLENTY OF TIME FOR REDRESS WITH THE APPEAL AT THE LOCAL AND COUNTY LEVEL. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. IT WILL BE 10 YEARS THAT VOLUSIA WILL HAVE THE VGMC IN THE SAME THING CHANGES FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS. PLEASE DON'T. IT IS REDUNDANCY IN THE DAYS TIME IS MONEY. WHEN WE'RE COMPETING VOLUSIA COUNTY IS COMPETING IN NEIGHBORING COUNTIES HAVE THIS PURPOSELY PUTTING US AT A DISADVANTAGE IS NO GETTING AROUND IT. FOR 10 YEARS WE STILL HAVE VGMC AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL COME AFTER US AND MOST OF US MAY NOT BE HERE. JOSH EBERLY YOUNG ENOUGH TO BE CHAIR IN A FEW YEARS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN AN INTERVIEW YET.

I WILL BE THERE WITH HER HUSBAND AND MY WIFE. BECAUSE HE HATES POLITICIANS AND REMEMBER THAT. SO WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS THANK YOU. I WILL SUPPORT IT HAS WRITTEN BUT PLEASE NOTE GOING FORWARD WILL BE WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE ANY STUMBLING BLOCKS. THANK YOU AND INDIVIDUAL CHALLENGES AND SOME OF THE STUMBLING BLOCKS, OR CONCERNED ME KNOWS MOST AS ANYBODY IN VOLUSIA COUNTY SHOULD BE IS DECISIONS WILL BE MADE OUTSIDE OF VOLUSIA COUNTY FROM WHAT WAS HAPPENING INSIDE SO YOU SEE THE VGMC WHERE THE PLANNERS WERE IN THE DECISIONS BEING AFFECTED IN THE FALL GOVERNMENT IS LOCAL TO KEEP IT LOCAL. IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ THIS FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ON THE RECORD TELLS QUITE A FOOTPRINT OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED. SO THAT I'M DONE MR. CHAIR THANK YOU. THE MOTION?

MOTION FOR APPROVAL. AND THE MOTION INCLUDES THE CORRECTIONS AS NOTED .

INDEED WE CHANGING THE APPELLATE PROCESS AND FUNDING.

IF I'M CLARIFY I'M REFERRING TO THE CORRECTED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE DISTRIBUTED YESTERDAY.

>> MS. DENYS WHY DON'T YOU STATE THE ENTIRE MOTION RATHER THAN JUST SO MOVED.

I WILL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. SO THE MOTION IS TO IMPROVE -- TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2016 -10 RELATING TO THE VOLUSIA GROWTH MANAGEMENT CONSISTING OF CERTIFICATION RULES AND ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS THE AMENDED LANGUAGE .

INCLUDING THE CORRECTIONS FOR-. .

THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. OKAY. THE MOTION STATED IS THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE WITH CERTIFICATION RULES AND ORGANIZATION TO INCLUDE THE CORRECTIONS ON PAGE 4-13. ALWAYS THE SECOND ON THE?

SECOND AND AGREE. AND VERY GOOD. MR. PATTERSON YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

WITH THIS MOTION ARE FULLY INTEND AND'S. I AM PROBABLY THE ONLY COUNCILMEMBER SITTING UP HERE. I KEEP GOING BACK TO HISTORY.

SHE SAYS THAT YOU ARE DATING YOURSELF.

I'M NOT OLD I'M JUST GETTING OLDER. AND THE LONGER WE SIT HERE AND THAT IS MY BARBER THAT DOES THAT.

AND WE RAN FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAD ASKED TO HAVE THEM APPOINT TO THE ROAD MANAGEMENT COMMISSION WHICH HE DID WHICH WE DID IN 1994 AND WAS SERVED ON THE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. AND AT THAT TIME OF FUNCTION OF THE GROWTH COMMISSIONS THAT WE HEARD DISPUTES BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND CITY AND THE CITY OF DAYTONA BEACH WITH SOME SQUABBLES

AND DAYTONA AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. WE DID NOT MEET TWICE A MONTH. AND WE DID THIS. SOMEWHERE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WHERE IT IS TODAY. BUT I KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING BACK THEN SUPPORTED THAT WHEN IT CAME AND COUNTY COUNCIL IN 1995 WE HAD COUNCILMEMBERS WHO IS DOING EVERYTHING HE COULD IT AFFILIATING AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION CAME UP TO FUND TAKE ALL THE MONEY AWAY FROM THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. WHICH WOULD REALLY CRIPPLE THEM. AND I CAN SUPPORT THAT AND I FELT THAT THE MISSION OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT TRADITION WAS TO WORK WITH DISPUTES BETWEEN THE CITIES AND COUNTIES. AND SO THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO SECO BACK TO WHERE WAS THAT THIS IS A GREAT AMENDMENT TO IT. AND GETTING UP TO THIS ARGUMENT OF LOADING OR

LETTING THE PEOPLE VOTE ON IT. WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE EVERY BOARD THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS AUTHORITY OVER AND SAY ANYONE WANTS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD HAS TO RUN FOR. WOULD HAVE ELECTIONS ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT WE DON'T. WHERE REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS BODY COUNCIL APPOINTS PEOPLE TO SIT ON THE ROAD COMMISSION AND YOU CAN DECIDE IF WE NEED TO REMOVE OR SIT ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP FROM VARIOUS BOARDS. AND HAVE A RIGHT TO IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT THEY COULD CHOOSE TO COME BACK UP HERE. BUT I THINK THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS THINGS EVERYTHING SHOULD BE VOTED ON FOR EVERY BOARD IN THE WORLD THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO GET ELECTED TO IT IS THE ONLY FAIR WAY TO DO THINGS. AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND GET ELECTED APPEAR TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS AND SOMETIMES IT IS. BUT THIS ONE IS AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE IT WILL REALLY SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

MS. CUSACK.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR . AND FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ARE HERE THIS MORNING , THIS REPRESENTS A REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. WE ALL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO US. AND ONE OF THOSE ISSUES IS WHO WILL REPRESENT YOU IN A REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. IF YOU MAKE THAT DECISION EVERY TIME YOU CAST A VOTE TO HAVE A PERSON ELECTED AS A PUBLIC OFFICER. AND AS A BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUES BELIEVE THAT I DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY. I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF US TRY TO DO WHAT IS BEST IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS GREAT GOVERNMENT. LET ME THINK THE GMC CAN FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO. AND TO THE CHARTER REVIEW AND TO THOSE CITIZENS THAT ARE NOT A PART OF EITHER OF THOSE 2 COMMISSIONS. I KNOW THAT THEY SPENT THE CHARTER REVIEW AND THAT LET'S JUST GET RID OF IT. YOU HAVE HEARD THAT . AND THEY WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THAT. BUT WE SAID NO. THIS MUST GO FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW AND THAT WE NEED TO HAVE REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND HOW CAN THIS BETTER. BEING ONE OF ONLY 2 IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THEN MUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING DIFFERENT. AND THE REST OF THE COUNTIES IN THE STATE. SO WHAT CAN WE DO THEN TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PROCESS? THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT AND PROVIDES INPUT FROM CITIZENS WITHIN A COUNTY. AND WE HAVE DONE THAT. THIS DOCUMENT IS A RESULT OF THAT WORK. WILL EVERYONE ALWAYS AGREE? WE KNOW THAT WE MUST AGREE MANY TIMES TO DISAGREE AND DO WHAT IS BEST WHEN WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE GREAT COUNTRY THAT WE. WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. YOU DO HAVE A VOICE . THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT PROVIDES YOU WITH THE STEPS THE NECESSARY TO TAKE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE FINDING THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THAT. AND THEREFORE I SAY I CAN SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE DUE DILIGENCE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MISSED WHAT YOU SHOULD DO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS DOCUMENT A WORKABLE DOCUMENT THAT IS GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY WITHOUT REMOVE ENTIRETY. SO 2 TO ALL OF YOU I SAY THANK YOU AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE THIS DOCUMENT REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE MADE THAT DECISION HAVE HAD DIALOGUE AND INPUT. YOU HAVE HAD MEETINGS AROUND THE COUNTY THIS IS REPRESENTATION OF GOOD GOVERNMENT. AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT. AND THE ONES OF YOU THAT KNOW THAT NO THAT IF I DID NOT I WOULD SAY SO. BUT I SUPPORT THIS 100%.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE HAVE REACHED A COMPROMISE AND AS IT IS A COMPROMISE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH. THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR INPUT IN THE SITUATION. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU AND MR. WAGNER.

THANK YOU. WITH THE EMAIL AND CONVERSATIONS WITH REGARDS TO THIS.

WHO WANT TO ILLUSTRATE SOMETHING THEN WANTED TO ASK VGMC WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND I KNOW THE ANSWER. YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND IT AND ANSWERS JUST TO DO THAT THIS LEVEL. THE POINT BEING THAT THE EXPERTS HAVE TOLD THEM WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND THEY KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. AND ANSWERS PRETTY EASY IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING I DON'T MEAN TO BE FUNNY BUT TO BRING ON THAT POINT THAT WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING AND WE JUST DON'T. I'VE BEEN WITH YOU AND A BUNCH OF STUFF AND THE EXPERTS THAT THE COMPROMISE MAKE SENSE NOT FOR ME IS ENOUGH AND I WILL BE SUPPORTED.

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I GOING TO PUSH THE BATHROOM ON OR OFF? OVER THE YEARS AND I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A FIGURE ON THIS ANSWER IS WHERE OR OFTEN BUT HOW OFTEN HAS THE GROUP RUN THE STANDING WITH CITIZENS? THIS A RARE CASE

OR DOES IT HAPPEN OVER THE YEARS OF THE ORGANIZATION?

IT'S INFREQUENT. SOFTWARE THAT IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BUT IT'S ENOUGH. SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE CASES LESS THAN 10 OR MAYBE FIVE.

I REMEMBER THAT WE NEVER HAD ONE BACK THOUSAND GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION.

THAT'S THE WHAT I GOT ABOUT RESEARCH AS WELL DID NOT HAPPEN AT ALL. THE LAST THREE YEARS AND TURNOVER CALL WITH THE COMMISSION IN THE LAST 10 YEARS IS 5% OF THE TIME.

MR. WAGNER BRINGS OUT A VERY VALID POINT THAT THESE ARE NOT ONLY THE CHARTER COMMISSION REVIEW BOARDS BUT THESE ARE ALSO SUGGESTIONS FOR THE VGMC TOO TO WORK WITH THEM. SPECIAL KUDOS TO ANYONE'S ZONTA. RULES AND TIGHTEN UP MARC WILSON MAKER HOUSECLEANING BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ANOTHER HOUSE. THAT'S AMAZING AND I COMMEND THOSE GUYS AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR WORKING TOGETHER THAT IS JUST AMAZING BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT LET'S LET THE CHARTER REVIEW MAKE THAT DECISION AND SAID BACK TO THE BUSINESS AS USUAL AND NOT THESE PEOPLE. AND IS A BIG SOLID PLAN FOR ME TOO. PSALMIST THERE IS FURTHER DISCUSSION , I SHALL RESTATE THE MOTION. >>

I LIKE YOU TO EASY THROUGH THE MOTIONS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 206-10. WITH THAT CERTIFICATION RULES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO INCLUDE CORRECTIONS

FOR-13. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING BY SAYING YES. ALL OPPOSED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IS THE SECOND OLDEST MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, --

ARE YOU SAYING THAT I AM OLD?

>>

I RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR A 10 MINUTE RECESS.

IS THERE AN OBJECTION TO A 10 MINUTE RECESS? SO CARRIED WILL TAKE ATTEND. -- WILL TAKE 10 MINUTES.

>> [ EVENT IS ON 10-MINUTE RECESS. CAPTIONER STANDING BY. ] WILL IF THE CHAMBER COULD PLEASE COME TO ORDER WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH OFF THE MORNING SESSION. AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND THE STAFF REPORT AN ORDINANCE DISSOLVING THE EAST VOLUSIA TRANSPORTATION TAX DISTRICT. WILL HAVE THE FLOOR'S WHERE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND HAVING PREPARED THE ORDINANCE WITH YOU THE COUNCIL CAN VIEW THIS AS A BIT OF SPRING CLEANING OR DELAYED SPRING TRAINING. THE DISTRICT WAS FORMED TO SUPPORT THE SERVICE IN THE EAST VOLUSIA THE SERVICE HAS BEEN COUNTYWIDE IN THE DISTRICT HAS NOT BEEN DISSOLVED AT THE TIME THE SERVICE WAS COUNTYWIDE BECAUSE IT WAS VIEWED AS A BIT OF AN EXPERIMENT. YOU EXPERIMENT HAS NOW LASTED 20 YEARS AND IS NO NEED TO RETAIN THE DISTRICT AND AS AN EXPENSE TO DO SO. SO WE RECOMMEND OR ADOPTION. >> THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANY OF THE STAFF REPORTING ON THIS MATTER? I SEE NONE SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION.

NONE THAT WE RECEIVED AND WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ORDINANCE 2016-19 DISSOLVING THE EAST VOLUSIA TAX DISTRICT AND MR. PATTERSON YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. IN THE LEGISLATURE WE STILL HAVE LAWS THAT WERE ON THE BOOKS THAT NEEDED TO GO WAY TO REDUCE THE VOLUME OF THE PAGES OF THE BOOK'S. WAS WONDERING IF YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY OTHER APPEALS TO TOSS OUT. AND I WILL MOVE APPROVAL

YOU WITH THE ARTICLE THE EAST VOLUSIA STATION. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION?

SAYING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 201-09 WITH THE TRANSPORTATION TAXING DISTRICT PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SO CARRIED. WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM 6 WITH THE SELECTION OF A NEGOTIATION WITH THE TOP FIRM TO PROVIDE SELF FUNDED GROUP SERVICES FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THE ESTIMATED GROUP COST THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THIS ITEM, TO SO WE CAN PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE THAT NEXT TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SPEND ON SALARIES THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST EXPENDITURE EXCEPT FOR I ITEMS PUT ON AN ONGOING BASIS THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE EXPENDITURES THAT WE MAKE. IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT. THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE IS ABSOLUTELY A LARGE PART OF PEOPLE SALARIES AND A BIG REASON PEOPLE CAN COME AND STAY HAS IN PLACE FOR THE LONG RUN. IS TRUE FOR ALL OF US AND HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT EMPLOYEES ARE PROTECTED THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND SOME CASES IT'S A TRAGIC TAKE MONEY NEED HELP YOU NEED AND THAT HELP IS THERE IS A ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I BRINGING IN THE HOTEL MY WORK HERE. WE STARTED WITH SUCH A BIG PROCESS AND THE TRANSITION IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE. AND WE DON'T MAKE THIS LIGHTLY.

IT WAS 2 APRIL AND 2015 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE REVIEW ARE DOING WITH THEIR HEALTH BENEFIT PROGRAM AND PUTTING TOGETHER AN RFP TO GO OUT AND START THE PROCESS WHICH WILL TAKE ALMOST 2 USED TO DO INCLUDING THE TRANSITION PERIOD. AND PUT TOGETHER OF ACTION PLAN AND TO INTRODUCE THE IDEA OF TAKING SMALLER BENEFITS THEM TO PULL OFF A SEPARATE SO THAT WE COULD BE MORE COMPETITIVE. THEN WE ALSO DID SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WAS PRUDENT BUT WAS ALSO ASKED TO DO BY NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. ACTION PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDE HEALTHCARE. THIS IS TO TAKE IT OUT TO BED. WE ARE SELF-INSURED BUT WE ALSO WENT OUT FOR FULLY INSURED. THE ISSUES THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND TALK TO THE PROVIDERS ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE WE NEEDED IN HEALTHCARE. THAT WOULD MAKE IT THE EVEN PLAYING FIELD AND WOULD GO OUT TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY. TO GIVE OPTIONS FOR THIS AND TO LOOK AT A FULLY INSURED PLAN. WANT TO TAKE THE PLAN THAT IS THE BEST FOR THE COUNTY WITH EMPLOYEES AND CITIZENS IN THE END. ON AUGUST 20, 2015, HAVE APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACTS FOR DENTAL AND VISION AND SHORT-TERM CANCER AND SHORT-TERM DISABILITY. YOU REMEMBER WE PULLED THOSE OUT AND DID THOSE SEPARATELY AS WE SAID WE WORK. WITHOUT REALLY GOOD PRICES BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS AND REVIEW. OBVIOUSLY I WILL BRING UP JOE HERE AND MR. ROBINSON AND I WOULD TELL YOU MR. ROBINSON HAS BEEN NO SMALL HELP SO MATT CASSEL PULL THESE OFF SEPARATELY AND WE PULLED THEM ASIDE TO GET GOOD BEDS AND COMPREHENSIVE ACTIONS BEAR BEING FORWARD TODAY. BUT WE ALSO DID BETTER ON HIS PROGRAMS AND THEY TEND TO BE PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY AND A LOT OF WAYS CARRIED BY THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES. THEY PICK UP A GREAT COST OF THOSE. ON DECEMBER 17 OF 2015, WE DID AN OVERVIEW OF THE RFP AND KEY POINTS TO THE COUNCIL AND THE HEALTH PROGRAM. IF YOU REMEMBER, TO ME THIS IS ALSO A TIME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ON THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAD ACCOMPLISHED. AND THAT WAS THAT WE NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS WITH ALL OF THE UNIONS THAT THEY DECIDED TO FORGO THEIR RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE HEALTHCARE. THAT WAS A BIG DEAL THAT NOT MANY PLACES COULD PULL OFF. WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE WE DID AN HONEST JOB NEGOTIATING REPORT TO THEM IT WAS IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. AND BECAUSE THEY TRUST THE COUNCIL AND THE JUDGMENT OF THE MANAGEMENT WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION BUT THEY SUGGEST THE COUNCIL TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND BECAUSE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SEE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ALLOW YOU TO IMPLEMENT HEALTHCARE ACROSS THE BOARD. THE BEAUTY IF THAT IS I THINK THAT WE COULD DO ONE PLAN THAT FITS EVERYONE'S THAT IT IS CHEAPER FOR EVERYBODY AND PROTECTS EVERYBODY BETTER. TO THAT WAS NO SMALL FEAT.

ALSO ON 100 1216 WE RELEASED THE HEALTH RFP AND RIGHT NOW THE MEDICARE RFP IS OUT IN PENDING RIGHT NOW. THE THING WE DID AND JOE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS WAS THAT I WAS INSISTENT THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR NONUNION EMPLOYEES AND ALSO ARGUES EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR FAITH IN YOUR HANDS AND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW MORE OF THIS COST THEN WE HAVE GOT GOOD BEDS HERE BUT INEVITABLY HEALTHCARE GOES UP. BECAUSE I THINK WILL HAVE TO SHOULDER THESE INCREASING COSTS I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE EYEING. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE SEEN AS A MANAGER IS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS IS THAT THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE -- AND THIS IS TRUE WITH THE AVERAGE CITIZEN THAT'S NOT UNDERSTAND HEALTHCARE THAT THEY BY. A LOT OF CASES DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR APPRECIATE THE COST AND IMPLICATIONS OF MAKING THE WRONG DECISION AND WHAT MATTERS IN HEALTHCARE WE NEED IT. BUT WE WANTED TO DO WAS HAVE HER EMPLOYEES SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN THE COST AND IN THE PACKAGES AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS. FRED CHAO WILL TALK ABOUT WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE DAYS I INSISTED ON WHICH IS TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE OF EMPLOYEES BOTH UNION AND NONUNION FOLLOWING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING HELPING THE MANAGEMENT TO COME UP WITH NOT ONLY THE RFP BUT TO HELP THE DECISION WITH WHAT COMPANY THEY SHOULD REFLECT. I THINK THE LONG RUN THE COUNCIL OF FIND THAT THAT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE. BECAUSE THIS WAY THERE WILL BE NO ARGUMENT THE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS IN HEALTHCARE PACKAGE. ALSO THEY WERE CONCEPTS THAT THE EMPLOYEES HAD ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW AS PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF HEALTH CARE AND HOW WE COULD AVOID THOSE. I'M HAPPY TO SAY TODAY THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD WITH YOU TODAY IS A RECOMMENDATION TO SIGMA AS WE GOT TO THREE HEALTHCARE COMPANIES THAT TURNED OUT TO BE SELF-INSURED INTERNET TO BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO FOR US AND WE ENDED UP WITH THREE COMPETITORS AND ONCE YOU HAVE COMPETITION WILL GET A BETTER PRICE. ESPECIALLY GOOD PRICES COMPETING APPLES TO APPLES WHEN WE GO AHEAD TODAY IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS THIS WILL ALLOW US TO FINALIZE THE CONTRACT WITH THEM TO GET THAT FINAL CONTRACT APPROVED AT THE NEXT MEETING IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THE CONTRACT WRITTEN AND THEN WE WOULD TALK AT THE NEXT STAGE ABOUT HOW WE WILL GO FORWARD AND WHAT IS A FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY TO BALANCE THE INCREASED COST IN THE FUTURE BETWEEN EMPLOYEES AND COUNTY. THE NEWLY THAT THE TEAM HAD WITH EMPLOYEE BENEFIT TEAM AND THEY MET WITH THIS TEAM AND TOLD EVERYONE TOGETHER FOR FIVE FORMAL MEETINGS

AND CONSTANTLY SENT EMAILS TO ALL OF THE TEAM MEMBERS AS WE WENT TO THE UPDATES. WITH THAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO HAVE THEM COME FORWARD AND HR AND CAN INTRODUCE MR. ROBINSON OR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO HAVE HELP WALK YOU THROUGH FIRST HOW WE INVOLVE EMPLOYEES AND TOO TO GET IN WITH MR. ROBINSON THE DETAILS OF THE PACKAGE HERE RECOMMENDING TODAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. DINEEN. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. HAS MR. LOWRY SAID WE FORMED A TEAM AT HIS DIRECTION AND WE HAVE MET FIVE TIMES AND WE HAVE SOLICITED THE TEAM MANY TIMES FOR INPUT NOT ONLY ON THE HEALTHCARE BENEFIT BUT ALSO ON THE HEALTHCARE SMART PHONE APPLICATIONS THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING FOR EMPLOYEES WHICH WE THINK WILL MAKE THEIR LIFE EASIER IN ACCESSING PHYSICIANS AND STAFF IN URGENT CARE CENTERS AND PHARMACIES AND JUST ASIK PLAN INFORMATION. THAT IDEA ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS TEAM ITSELF. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND AS WE IMPLEMENT OUR NEW HEALTH PLAN, WILL BE SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION AS WELL SOMETIME THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIVISION IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPING NOT FOR US AND THEY'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS TEAM. SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY NOW LIKE TO BRING UP KENDRA PLAYS A PART OF THE TEAM. SHE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR. AND LIKE TO BRING HER UP ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM AND JUST LET HER TELL YOU BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE A TEAM MEMBER TELL YOU HOW DO THEY FEEL THE TEAM HAS PROVIDED INPUT AND WHAT THAT HAVE BENEFITED FROM. THE TEAM CONSISTS OF MEMBERS FROM ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS. MR. CHARLES HARGROVE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REPRESENTS LEGAL AND ALSO PROVIDES HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE TEAM WITH ADVICE . FROM PUBLIC WORKS WE HAVE KENDRA AND REGINA AND VEGGIES FEARS. FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WE HAVE GARY BITTLE LORI AND FROM BUSINESS SERVICES AND CHRISTINE JARVIS AND WANDA WITH GROWTH AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT WITH BROWN A PETERSON AND WITH AVIATION ECONOMIC RESOURCES WE HAVE RENT. THE TEAMSTERS AS MR. DINEEN SAID AND ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS ARE REPRESENTED WORK FROM TEAMSTERS WE HAVE BRODY HAVE ROBERT FROM FINANCE AND PAT FROM OCEAN CENTER AND PUBLIC PROTECTION AND ELIZABETH DRISCOLL AND SMELL MARTIN AND TERRY BOSCO WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES. THE COMMUNITY SERVICES ANGELA WALKER AND PROPERTY APPRAISAL OFFICERS. AS WELL AS THE SUPERVISOR ERIC IN THE BUDGET AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES SCHWARTZ AND IFF WHICH REPRESENTS THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT WITH LIEUTENANT. WARD AND WE ALSO ADDED A REPRESENTATIVE WITH THE FORMER COUNTER OF THE EMPLOYEE AND FINANCES WE GO TO THE MEDICARE PROCESS AND WITH THAT RFP WE FELT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO INVOLVE SOMEBODY FROM THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A COLLEAGUE TO COME UP FROM PUBLIC WORKS CAN TELL YOU IN HER OWN WORDS.

>> GOOD MORNING MR. JAREN COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF DESCRIPTION ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE TEAM. MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ASSIST PERSONNEL TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND COMMUNICATE TO OUR DEPARTMENTS. WITHOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS HAD REPRESENTATIVES DUE TO THE LARGE SIZE AND TO REACH THE 350 EMPLOYEES THAT MAKE UP PUBLIC WORKS. THE MEETINGS WE HAD FIVE MEETINGS AS MR. DINEEN SAID WE HAD FIVE MEETINGS OF THE TEAM AND DURING THE MEETING THIS IS INTEGRAL IN SUMMARIZING THE DETAILS AND THAT ABUNDANT INFORMATION IN HEALTHCARE PLAN. AFTER THE MEETINGS WERE HELD WE WENT BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS AND HAVE THE MEETINGS WITH THE DIVISION AND RELAYED THE INFORMATION THAT WE LEARNED

AND ASK FOR THE OPINIONS AND FEEDBACK. WE COMPILED THE INFORMATION INTO THE BACK TO PERSONNEL WHICH I BELIEVE THAT THAT FEEDBACK PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN CONDUCTING AND GETTING WORK TOGETHER. ONE OF THE MAIN RECURRING FEEDBACK WE HEARD FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEES AND COWORKERS IS NOT HAVING THAT INFORMATION AT THEIR FINGERTIPS. I THINK WITH GIVING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO PERSONNEL IT HELPS TO CREATE THE IDEA OF THE HEALTHCARE ACT. THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GIVE FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THE APP AND I BELIEVE THAT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT NOW.

WITHOUT BEING SAID I BELIEVE THE PROCESS AND ALONG THE EMPLOYEES THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FEEDBACK AND HAVE THE OPINIONS HEARD MEANT A LOT TO THE EMPLOYEES. AND FOR SENIOR MANAGEMENT TO RECOGNIZE AND TO LISTEN TO THE EMPLOYEES AND TO VALUE THEIR FEEDBACK FOR THE EMPLOYEES. IT WAS AN HONOR TO SERVE ON THE TEAM APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN BE ABLE TO PUT INPUT INTO SUCH IMPORTANT COMPONENTS INTO THE VOLUSIA COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT ON THE TEAM AND I WANT TO TELL THE COUNCIL THAT THE TEAM WILL GO FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AND THEY WILL LOOK AT IT AS WE IMPLEMENT WHATEVER HEALTHCARE THAT WE DO WILL MONITOR AND MAKE SURE WHAT ISSUES WE MAY HAVE IN THE WOULD BE SELF-FUNDED AS WE WILL HAVE GREATER CONTROL OVER PROBLEM HEALTHCARE. FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE HAD THIS HAPPEN WE WERE SELF-FUNDED IN THE PAST OR IF SOMEBODY GETS TONIGHT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT MORE SAY IN WHY AND HOW THAT PERSON SHOULD BE TREATED. WILL LOOK AT THAT IN WAYS TO INTERACT. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS THING WITH THE TO WHICH IS AN ENORMOUS CHANGE IN OUR PROGRAM AND IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE MUCH OF A COST TO US BECAUSE WE DID IT. BUT YOU HEARD OF THAT IN NETWORK AND OUT-OF-NETWORK. WE HAVE A NETWORK AND WE HAVE THE FIRST TIER OF OUT-OF-NETWORK AND REALLY OUT-OF-NETWORK. THE FIRST TIER OF OUT-OF-NETWORK WAS PRETTY MUCH THE STUFF OUTSIDE OF VOLUSIA COUNTY. SO YOU HAVE ORANGE COUNTY UP A GAINESVILLE IN TALLAHASSEE AND OUT-OF-NETWORK WAS THE FIRST YEAR. SO IF YOU EVER USE HEALTHCARE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT-OF-NETWORK MEANS WHICH IS A LOT MORE COST. WE FOUND A WAY WE BELIEVE TO PUT IT INTO JUST THE 2 RINGS WHICH IS IN NETWORK AND OUT-OF-NETWORK INTERVIEW IN NETWORK WILL BE FURTHER THAT'S ORLANDO AND GAINESVILLE AND TALLAHASSEE. SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR KIDS THERE OR THEY ARE THERE THAN THEY WILL BE TREATED IN THAT WAY. OUR TELL YOU THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS CONCEPT OF USING THE EMPLOYEES INVOLVED IN HEALTHCARE AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WHERE THE UNIONS ME THE CHOICE TO TRUST YOU AND TO NOT NEGOTIATE HEALTHCARE WHICH THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO

THAT I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY PARAMOUNT TO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COSTS ARE AND WHAT THEIR IMPLICATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS EMPLOYEES FOR THE HEALTHCARE. I WILL TELL YOU AND I HAVE DONE THIS IN A WHILE THAT THIS IS NOT THE NORM. IT IS VERY UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO INVOLVE EMPLOYEES AND I THINK THAT'S SAD BECAUSE I THINK THAT IN THE END IT'S BETTER FOR ALL OF US NEVER YOU WANT TO THANK THE TEAM MEMBERS THAT PUT A LOT OF TIME AND AND I THINK THAT GOING FORWARD WILL MEET IN A QUARTERLY BASIS BUT THEY WILL HAVE AN AVENUE WITH ISSUES WITH HEALTHCARE TO BRING FORWARD AND THE CONTRACT THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING WILL BE FIVE YEARS WITH THE FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL AND THAT FIVE YEARS IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND GET OUT THAN THE POINT IS WITH THAT TEAM SHOULD HAVE A BETTER HANDLE TO TRY TO DEAL WITH ISSUES BECAUSE SOME ISSUES COME UP AND CANNOT AFFORD FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TO FALL TO THE CRACK. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTHCARE. YOU CAN REALLY DEVASTATE A FAMILY AND TIMES OF THE ESSENCE AND HAVE SEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE CAUSED DECISION DELAYED DIED BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE CANCER AND THE GREW TOO FAR INTO FAST. UNDER OUR PROCESS WILL HAVE A PLACE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPEAL TO US. WITH THOUGHT, JOE WILL YOU BRING MR. ROBINSON UP?

YES SIR . AND I DID FAIL TO MENTION THAT WHEN WE CONDUCT THESE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT TEAM MEETINGS, IT IS NOT HUMAN RESOURCES JUST STANDING UP AND PROVIDING THE INFORMATION. MR. ROBINSON HAS BEEN A PART OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE SO THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED AND PARTICULARLY THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION IS FIRSTHAND AT THE VERY GOOD JOB AT THAT PIC AND WITHOUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP MR. ROBINSON TO BRING UP HER BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ITEMS .

THANK YOU JOHN ROBINSON PRESIDENT. AND CEO OF ROBINSON BUSH A CONSULTING FIRM AND ORLANDO FLORIDA. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND A FEW MOMENTS GOING TO THE ANALYSIS DONE ON THE PROPOSAL FOR THE HEALTH PLAN COMPONENTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECT AND WHAT WE DID FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE IN LOOKING AT THAT ANALYSIS AND TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY PERSPECTIVE AND WITH THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE LOOKED AT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE PLAN DESIGN AND THE NETWORK AND THE MANAGEMENT TYPES OF ISSUES AS WELL AS SOME OF THE GUARANTEES THAT ARE PART OF THAT. THE FIRST OF ALL THE FINANCIAL PEACE AND WHAT WE DO AS A COMPANY AND WHAT WE PUT INTO THE PARTICULAR RFP IS THE EXERCISE AND CLAIMS. WE GAVE COMPANIES $24.6 MILLION OF CLAIMS THAT WERE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED CLAIMS THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2015. THAT REPRESENTS A SIX-MONTH CLAIM INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMPANIES. AND WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO WAS PRICE THEM

AS THEY HAD AT THEIR FACILITIES AND WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE DISRUPTIONS THE HAD AS WELL. LOOKING AT THAT THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND IT DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF YOUR CLIENTS BUT IT IS A GOOD SAMPLE OF SOME OF YOUR CLIENTS AND WHAT YOU HAVE SET UP. RASTER AGGREGATE INFORMATION IN THE RFP AND THEN WE SEND A TEAM OF ANALYSTS AND THE TEAM AT THE COUNTY AS WELL WITH THE FINANCIAL PERSONNEL AS WELL TO LOOK AT THOSE AND THOSE PARTICULAR NUMBERS. THIS CAME BACK WITH A 4% DISCOUNT. AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT CURRENTLY EXIST. AND THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT $1 MILLION IN SAVINGS ON THE PARTICULAR CLAIMS JUST BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS THAT EXISTED THERE. WE DID A SIMILAR EXERCISE WITH THE PHARMACIES THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT TECH BUT IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL CLAIMS THAT THIS PARTICULAR NUMBERS AND ASK FOR GUARANTEES ON THE PRICING. WE SAID TO THE COMPANIES TO GIVE US A GUARANTEE AS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO 17 WE COMES TO DISCOUNTS OFF OF THE BUILDING PRICING THAT WE CAN EXPECT. EVER FOUND THAT WAS A GOOD EXERCISE AS WELL. AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT APPROVED GUARANTEE THAT WAS VERY VALUABLE AND WILL BE VERY VALUABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS ALSO PERFORMANCE GUARANTEE OF MONEY AND IF THEY MISS THAT PARTICULAR MARK THE MONIES WILL COME BACK. WE DON'T WANT THE MONEY IS COMING BACK WE WANT THE DISCOUNT FOR MUCH BETTER ARRANGEMENT FOR YOU AT THE COUNTY AND PAYING THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE PLAN. FROM A PHARMACY PERSPECTIVE WE GAVE COMPANIES $9 MILLION WITH CLAIMS IN A SIMILAR FASHION AND DID SOME REPRICING LIVES AND GIVE US SOME GUARANTEES. WE FOUND THAT THE DISCOUNTS WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $300,000 BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAD ONE COMES TO THAT AS WELL. SO THAT ENTERS INTO THE EQUATION LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. WE ALSO ASK ABOUT THE TWO GREAT GUARANTEES AND THE HIGHER THE GENERIC SALES RATE THAT WE HAVE AN ACTUAL PRESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE GENERIC VERSUS BRAND. THAN THE LAST COST THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ARRANGEMENTS. WE HAD ONE COMPANY THAT WANTED TO PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS AND REQUIREMENTS ON THE GENERIC DRUGS AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THE SCOPE. AND FROM THE STANDPOINT WITH EMPLOYEES TO EDUCATE THEM AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE. THIS WAS AN EXERCISE WITH THE RFP ANALYSIS IS THAT ASPECT FROM PREMIUMS AND FROM CLAIMS AS A SECOND PHASE. BUT WE DO WITH THAT FIRST PHASE IS SELECT THE COMPANY THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE COST AND GUARANTEES AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN COME BACK WITH THE IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE ON YOUR PLAN. WE LOOK AT 15 CLAIMS REJECTED FORWARD AND LOOKING AT THE CLAIMS THAT WE DID ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND WE BELIEVE THAT LOOKING AT THE SIGNAL THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF AROUND $2 MILLION. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CLAIMS AND ADMINISTRATIVE COST OF WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PROTECTED FORWARD AND THAT WOULD BE A SECOND STEP. SO THE PROCESS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE BUT WE'RE RUNNING THE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT THE PLAN DESIGN DIFFERENCES WILL BRING BACK TO YOU IN THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT OUTSET OF FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THIS? EVALUATION WAS TO SIGMA AS THE TOP COMPANY TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY LIKE THE FACT OF THE SIZE AND NOT ONLY VOLUSIA COUNTY AREA IN THE FIVE-COUNTY AREA AROUND YOU. AND ALSO IN THE STATE WITH 200,000 MEMBERS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND $1.4 MILLION IN THE STATE. THE COMMITTEE IS ALSO INTERESTED IN THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND IT IS 24 SEVEN THE WAY THE HAVE IT SET UP AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THEN WITH AN ISSUE AT NIGHT IN THE WANT TO CHECK ON THE CLAIM DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND GET A LIVE PERSON. THE CONSUMER TOOLS ARE VERY HELPFUL AS WELL WHERE PEOPLE CAN LOOK UP ONLINE THE ISSUES THE HEALTH NETWORKS AND WHATNOT AND TO HELP THEMSELVES AS WELL. WE TALKED TO EARLIER ABOUT FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE COMPANY BEING ABLE TO DEFEND ANY TYPE OF DECISION THAT THEY MAKE WILL DO THAT AS WELL. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE NETWORK. BECAUSE THE NETWORK IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND YOU HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WITH THE NETWORK NOW THE HAVE A COMBINATION OF NETWORKS. WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE RFP TO ENSURE ALL LOCAL HOSPITALS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NETWORK WITH THE COMPANIES THAT WE HAD AND WE DEFINED THOSE. WE DEFINED THEM AS BEING PART OF MEMORIAL AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER ONES IS MEDIATED AREA.

THEY'RE ALL IN THE NETWORK AND ALSO THE CENTRAL SORT OF REGION WAS ALSO IN THE NETWORK TOO WHICH WE HAD ASKED FOR TOO. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SIGMA NETWORK IS A NATIONAL NETWORK AND AN INTEGRATED NETWORK. WITH THAT INTEGRATION OF THE NETWORK, IT GIVES US DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE PLANS AND THE NETWORKS THAT MR. LOWRY HAVE REFERRED TO IN WITH SOME OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS WELL. THE ISSUE OF HEALTH MANAGEMENT AND PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH MANAGEMENT WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU AS YOU MOVE FORWARD THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SAVINGS BASED ON IMPROVED DISCOUNTS AND WE CAN LOOK AT SAVINGS BECAUSE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGED OR THAT YOU WILL PAY FOR. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT IT IS HELPING INDIVIDUALS. HOW CAN WE HELP INDIVIDUALS GET HEALTHY OR HELP INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIFIC DISEASES OR CONDITIONS. THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS TOO THAT WHEN IMPLEMENTED WILL HELP GAME TURNS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. ALL IN ALL, WE THINK THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE PRICE AND THE DISCOUNT AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE OFFERED IN ADDITION TO ONE THAT WE ADDED TO AS WELL WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. AND THAT IS THAT 24 SEVEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL BOARD CERTIFIED PHYSICIANS WITH SOME OF THE URGENT CARE TYPES OF SITUATIONS THAT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE EASY TO DEAL WITH OVER THE PHONE THEN HAVING TO GO SOMEPLACE. SO THAT IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF IT AS WELL. IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN HAVING YOU PASS THIS PARTICULAR ITEMS AND WILL BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS AND EXPECT BRINGING BACK THAT PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION AT A FUTURE MEETING SOMETIME IN JUNE IF WE CAN. ALONG WITH SOME OF THE COST AND THE PLAY DESIGN CHANGES THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED AS WELL. I KNOW THAT SPEAKING FIRST OF THE COST THAT IS COMING WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE FIRST TO DEAL WITH THE COMPANY THEN TO COME BACK WITH ALL OF THE NUMBERS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WITH THAT.

WITH THAT IF YOU COULD PLEASE HOLD FOR JUST A SECOND AND I WANT TO DO A LITTLE SURPRISE FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE A LITTLE 2 SECOND REPRIEVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD ROLE THAT BEAUTIFUL BEING FOOTAGE.

OKAY. YOU HEARD THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT TOURISM WEEK AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. HAVE A BIG EVENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW THE AIRPORT AND THE COMMUNITY IS SO PUMPED ABOUT OUR AIRPORT.

COMMUNITY INFORMATION DIRECTOR

AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THIS IS NATIONAL TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEEK AND IT IS AMERICA'S ANNUAL SALUTE TO TOURISM AND TRAVEL.

AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING THEN WE HAVE TO DO THIS RIGHT AT THE SECOND. >>

LIGHTS COME IN AND PASSENGERS GETTING OFF THE PLANE AND SUCH BUT THIS IS A CONGRESSIONAL RESOLUTION 1983 AND THE THREE TOURISM EUROS WITH THE HOTEL AND MOTEL ASSOCIATION AND THE DAYTONA AIRPORT IN THE OCEAN CENTER TEAMED UP FOR THE SALUTE AND TUESDAY WAS BREAKFAST THAT ALL OF OUR BUREAUS WERE AT FOR THE SPEAKER PANEL WHICH WAS HELD AT THE UNIVERSITY. TODAY THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BUREAU ARE AT THE DAYTONA AIRPORT WELCOMING THE PASSENGERS AS THEY GET ONTO THE PLANE AND OFF THE PLANE AND THEY WERE THERE FROM 11:00 AND THE FIRST FLIGHT ARRIVED AT 11:30 AM FOR THIS CELEBRATION SO THEY WILL WELCOME ALL THREE OF OUR AIRLINES WILL BE AMERICAN AND JETBLUE . THIS TECHNOLOGY IS MAKING ME NERVOUS RIGHT NOW. NOW WE WILL GO LIVE TO DAYTONA BEACH AIRPORT

FOR THE DIRECTOR IS STANDBY. YOU ARE LIVE DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING .

YOU ARE BROADCASTING LIVE.

HELLO. TODAY'S NATIONAL TOURISM WEEK. THIS YEAR VOLUSIA COUNTY WELCOMED OVER 9.5 MILLION VISITORS TO THE AREA . ACCOUNTING FOR OVER $5 BILLION IN LOCAL SPENDING

WHICH HAS CREATED OVER 41,000 JOBS IN THE ECONOMY. THIS WEEK WE WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE TRAVELING BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM ALL OF THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. SO TODAY WE'RE WELCOMING ALL PASSENGERS COMING OFF THE PLANE TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> WILL KENLEY HERE AS?

THERE WELCOME HERE TO WELCOME THE PASSENGERS WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT THAT JUST GOT DONE LANDING. SO WE DID MISS ALL 90 OF THE PASSENGERS THAT JUST WENT THROUGH. BUT WE ARE WELCOMING AMERICAN AIRLINES IN JAPAN DELTA AIRLINES TODAY. THEY SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER THE EVENT TOOK PLACE.

YES. >>? TECHNOLOGIES GREAT AND WE HAVE TO DO OUR TIME LITTLE BIT BETTER.

EVERYONE THANK YOU. >> YES. ALL RIGHT. MR. CARL. WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE? THE POINT BEING

IS THAT THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS HOW CONNECTED WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE CHAMBERS OUT THERE AND PEOPLE DOING THIS FOR TOURISM. IT IS ONE COMMUNITY TRYING TO BE TOGETHER IN THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DID NOT DO THINGS TOGETHER AND NOW WE DO EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY BODES WELL FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE OUT THERE AND PROMPT AND PEOPLE ARE APPRECIATING THE INVESTMENT GOT WITH THE AIRPORT AND WE TREAT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY HERE THAN THE DOING A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.

DIRECTOR OF AVIATION AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT

MR. DINEEN THE SAME. YESTERDAY THERE WAS A MEETING OR 200 PEOPLE ATTENDED AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY WERE ALL TRYING TO ROAM THE SAME DIRECTION WHICH IS YOUR DIRECTION. THIS WAS THE THEME OF EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER. THE DIRECTION IS BEING FOLLOWED AND THANK YOU.

I CAN ATTEST TO THAT BECAUSE EVERYONE OF THE ADVERTISING AUTHORITY MEMBERS WERE COMING UP TO ME AND SAYING THANK YOU VERY MUCH GLAD THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER IN A TELL ME ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON FROM WESTSIDE AND REPRESENTATIVES ARE TELLING ME WHAT IS GOING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY AND AM VERY IMPRESSED PRESIDENT GREAT JOB AND GIVE GOOD DIRECTION IN THEIR FOLLOWING THE MARCHING ORDERS IN THE JOB IS GETTING DONE. SO WE WILL GET BETTER WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND MR. ROBINSON ENJOY COMING BACK AND WILL PICK UP TO THIS DISCUSSION ON HEALTH CARE. LET'S GET BACK TO SOMETHING MORE EXCITING.

THESE DISCUSSIONS PLEASE

WITH MORE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AT THIS POINT AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU LET'S GET RIGHT TO THE CHASE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I AM SO PLEASED WITH THE PROCESS AND HOW THIS WORKS AND THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE. YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROTESTER ARGUMENTS. THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS HAS BEEN SO OPEN AND FAIR. YOU HAVE GOTTEN THE BEST AND THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST PROPOSAL FOR THE MONEY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. I AM EXTREMELY PLEASED TO HAVE GONE THROUGH EPISODES HAVE KNOWN OTHER MANAGERS THAT HAVE REALLY WRESTLED WITH THIS AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS COMPLEX SOCIETY IN TERMS OF HEALTHCARE. IT IS THE KEY TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES. ALSO THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR EMPLOYEES TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THE GOVERNMENT SPENDS ON A HEALTHCARE BECAUSE IT IS A BIG PART OF THEIR SALARY. AND TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE OTHER BENEFITS WHEN WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WHERE WE COULD NOT RAISE WAGES AND THIS COUNCIL QUITE FRANKLY DID NOT RAISE HEALTHCARE COSTS TO EMPLOYEES EVEN WHEN COSTS WENT UP AND WERE NOT GIVEN RAISES. WILL DO THAT WAS MISSED BY THE EMPLOYEES. I DO THINK THAT US INVOLVING THEM SLOT DIFFERENT THEM

OTHER PLACES AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS DON'T DO THAT. AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'RE JUST OPEN THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN KNOW EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE RAISED THIS AND THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL FOR US. THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I WILL PROBABLY EVER WORK ON IN MY CAREER HERE AT VOLUSIA AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF HOW THIS WORKED OUT AT THIS POINT. WITHOUT WE OPENED IT UP FOR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. THE COUNCIL COMMENT? BY THE WAY KEEPING THIS BUT INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE MOST BORING THINGS EVER BUT YOU ACTION KEPT ALIVE AND INFORMATIVE AND WE DID WELL IN A VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID. SO I OPEN IT UP TO COUNCILMEMBER DISCUSSION AND MOTION . I AM LOOKING AT A LIGHT >> GIVE YOU A SECOND HERE. MR. CHAIR AND MOVE APPROVAL THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL OFFERS NEGOTIATIONS WITH NUMBER ONE FIRM WITH CIGNA HEALTH AND LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY AWARDING THE CONTRACT THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO COME TO TERMS WITH CIGNA WILL NEGOTIATE WITH THE RESPONDENTS WITH AETNA LIFE INSURANCE AND THEN IF THAT NEGOTIATION FAILS IT WAS NUMBER THREE RANKED YOU AN ARM. MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE TOP FIRM WITH GROUP INSURANCE SERVICES PER EMPLOYEES.

MR. LOWRY YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY OR ARE YOU THE SECOND?

MAYBE IT TO THE LIGHT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THAT SECOND? >>

COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN JOHN ROBINSON AND WE GO BACK A LONG WAYS THEY DID A STELLAR JOB FOR THAT FREE AGENCY THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH A FEW YEARS AGO YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB. I HAVE HEARD FOR YEARS OVER THE CADILLAC PLANS THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAD THE PLANS HAVE SERVED THE EMPLOYEES HERE WILL WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD KEEP THAT UP. BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEM ON HEALTH ISSUES, YOU ARE NOT DO A GOOD JOB AND IT DOES NOT HELP THE WORKFORCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO HAVE THE SECOND AND YOU WISH TO HAVE THE FLOOR? >> MR. PATTERSON SAID IT SO WELL AND I CONCUR WITH THE COMMENTS.

IS SUCH AN ELOQUENT SPEAKER. MR. ECKERT.

JUST TO CLARIFY THE DON'T ARRIVE AT A CONTRACT TO RECOMMEND TO THE NEW WILL COME BACK TO TO SAY THAT THEY EVER PASTER AUTHORITY TO GO TO THE NEXT?

THAT WAS PART OF MY.

THIS IS PART OF THE MOTION.

IT IS PART OF THE MOTION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT HAS BEEN DELEGATED TO STAFF AN ESSAY COUNSEL RETAINED AUTHORITY.

OKAY. SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES. AND ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED. CARRIED UNANIMOUS OUT OF ZERO AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIR YOUR TURN TO GET TO WORK NOW.

WAS YOU WANT TO THINK THE STAFF THAT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT I PROBABLY NEVER SAID IN MY ENTIRE CAREER THAT MR. ROBINSON WITHOUT A DOUBT WE'D BE THE BEST IF NOT DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BEST CONSULTANTS HAVE EVER HIRED.

ID.

THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT WE MOVE ON NOW TO -- WE DO HAVE A BIT OF A TIMEFRAME TO MAKE FOR THIS MORNING. ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. MR. GIBSON AND MR. MAYOR A GOING TO SPEAK IN ITEMS OF THE MARRIAGE IS GOING TO REFEREE? AND YOU TO DO YOUR YELLOW SLIP THEIR. OKAY BECAUSE I HAD NOT SEEN IT YET. OKAY JUST WANTED TO GET READY FOR YOU. I DO KNOW DOG JUST WANTED TO GET READY FOR WORK THAT RESOLUTION AND THE TRANSFER

TO THE FOUNDATION THAT INCORPORATED MR. ECKERT.

THANK YOU AND AGAIN SITTING HERE NEXT TO ME WE HAVE PREPARED THE RESOLUTION FOR YOU TO TRANSFER THIS FACILITY WHICH WE ACQUIRED WITH THE FOUNDATION BACK TO IT HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH MR. McCAIN ON BEHALF OF THE TRUST AND THE CITY REGARDING THE TIME SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO IN TERMS OF THE EXISTING LEASE AND WILL TRANSFER THAT DATE CONSISTENT THAT AFTER WE NOTE THE CITY'S INTENTION IS. BUT THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE COUNTY FROM THE FOUNDATION AND THEY'RE REQUESTING THE RETURN IS APPROPRIATE THAT YOU DO THAT YOU MENTIONED NOT APPROVAL.

>> YOU TO SPEAK? HE SAID SO WELL TOO. IS QUITE AN ELOQUENT SPEAKER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST?

YES SIR.

VERY WELL. MR. MAYOR GIBSON. PLEASE COME FRONT AND CENTER. WHO IS THIS YOUNG LADY WITH YOU?

TYREKE EVANS.

OKAY. I'M SORRY BUT YOU LOOKED TALLER BECAUSE EVERY TIME I SEE YOU .

MY NAME IS DOUGLAS GIBSON AND I'M CURRENTLY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF OAK HILL AND ADDRESSES 297.

MY NAME IS DOUGLAS GIBSON AND I'M CURRENTLY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF OAK HILL AND ADDRESSES 297 RIVER ROAD, OAK HILL, FL. I AM HERE TO THANK THE COUNTY CHAIR IN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNTY MANAGER AND STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS UP. JUST BRIEFLY, THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN OPERATED IN OAK HILL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THE CITIZENS OF OAK HILL PLUS THE CITIZENS OF VOLUSIA UTILIZE THIS FACILITY ON A DAILY BASIS. I WAS NOT AWARE HOW MANY PEOPLE DID USE THIS UNTIL I GOT INVOLVED AND WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THE PROPERTY COULD POSSIBLY BE SOLD. AS A RESULT IT WILL BE TRANSFERRED I HOPE TO THE BIRD FISH FOUNDATION . THE BIRD FISH FOUNDATION AND THE CITY HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND HE SAID AFTER YOU ALL APPROVE IT THAT IT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE CITY. AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE FOUNDATION OF THE CITY WILL PROBABLY BE WORKING ON THE LEASE AGREEMENT WHICH IS PRESENTLY WITH THE COUNTY . SO I JUST WANT TO URGE ALL OF YOU TO APPROVE THIS BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITIZENS OF OAK HILL.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THE VOTE?

OKAY VERY WELL. MS. DENYS YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR GIBSON AND MANAGER AND STAFF FOR THIS. THIS FIRST CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS ON OUR TIMELINE AND WHEN WE CALL THE MANAGER OUT OF CONCERN AND IT WAS REPORTED THAT STARTED GETTING SOME REPORTS AND MR. DINEEN ASSURED ME THAT HE WOULD WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY OF OAK HILL TO A POSITIVE CONCLUSION BUT WE HAD TO GO TO SOME LEGAL HURDLES AND WAS OBVIOUSLY SOME LEGAL ISSUES WE HAD TO DEAL WITH AND ADDRESS AND THAT HE AND STAFF WOULD BE THAT . AND I REMEMBER CALLING MR. GIBSON TO SAY THIS IS NOT JUST MAYOR GIBSON BUT THE MAYOR THAT CAN HANDLE THE GAVEL AND HOPE THAT THIS MAYOR UP AGAINST ANYBODY. VERY GENUINELY VOLUSIA COUNTY AND THIS MAN CAN HANDLE THE GAVEL AND HE REPRESENTS THE CITY VERY WELL. AND TO THANK YOU WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID IT WAS A TENSE SITUATION WERE COMMITTED TO GETTING THE YES FOR THE CITIZENS OF OAK HILL VOLUSIA COUNTY AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. MR. MANAGER THANK YOU WE REALLY CAME THROUGH ONE WITH A TENSE SITUATION IN YOUR GIBSON THANK YOU FOR COMMUNICATING WITH US YOUR COMMISSIONERS. THEY THANK THEM BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY CITIZENS ARE VERY WELL AND HOW WE RESOLVE THIS. WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOVE TO APPROVE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

I WILL GIVE IT TO MR. LOWERY MR. LOWERY GETS THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'M DOING OKAY. MR. MAYOR I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE. NO STUDIES HAVE SET ACCOUNT VERY QUICKLY FOR EVERYBODY THERE WAS SOME NAME-CALLING SOMETHING IS DONE DEPO-PROVERA. BUT WE GOT IT THROUGH. I'M GLAD THE CITIZENS OPENED UP TO KEEP THEIR DOCTOR AND KEEP THAT MEDICAL CENTER ARE HAVING MORE MEDICAL INSURANCE DISCUSSIONS THEM HAVE HAD COUNSEL FOR MONTHS. AND VERY HAPPY TO HEAR WILL GET THIS DONE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR US. AND EVERYBODY WITH A THANK YOU.

AND IT'S REALLY A TEAM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. SO MS THERE SOMETHING ELSE FOR MY TEAM ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES. AND ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED. RETURN 6-0 MR. DANIELS. YOU HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR A MOMENT. NOW THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MORNING. TO ACCOMPLISH THIS AND 32 MINUTES OR LESS?

ALL RIGHT BECAUSE OF A LUNCH ENGAGEMENT 12:30 PM. REMARK AND GET SET AND SET THE CLOCK FOR 32 MINUTES. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CLOCK. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR SIR.

AND ALLOW 5 MINUTES. IN MY MEETINGS. 5 MINUTES.

MR. TURN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN NEVER GOOD THING TO BE STANDING BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR NEXT MEAL.

YOU KNOW US TO WELL

THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE LOCAL ECONOMY IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2016 AND BY LOOKING AT THE FIRST SLIDE WHICH BY THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING ON THE INTERNET THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE WITH THE FLORIDA BUSINESS YOU CLICK ON THE DATED REPORTS TAB YOU WILL SEE THE PRESENTATION RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT PAGE.

ALSO, NOT TO THE AIRPORTS. AND WILL GIVE THIS PRESENTATION AT DAYTONA BEACH AIRPORT. AND WE SERVE BREAKFAST AT AND WE SERVE BREAKFAST AT 7:45 AM IN THE MEETING WILL BEGIN PROMPTLY AT 8:00.

SO THE NEXT ONE LOOKS AT EMPLOYMENT GROWTH OVER A SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES THE DATA .387

AND 287 MSAS IN THE UNITED STATES. 80% OF THOSE SHOW EMPLOYMENT GROWTH AS MEASURED YEAR OVER YEAR DURING THE SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME. THAT IS WHAT THAT FIRST LIGHT BLUE BAR SHOWS. THAT IS WHAT THAT AVERAGE GROWTH LOOKS LIKE OVER THAT SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME. THE TOP QUARTILE WHICH IS THE TOP 25% OF ROUGHLY 80 OF THOSE THIS INEXTRICABLY SLIDE AND THAT IS WHAT THE EMPLOYMENT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE IN THOSE 88 ESSAYS.

AND THAT CRESCENDO IS FOR OUR MSA AND THE DAYTONA BEACH BY COMPARISON FOR THE TOP QUARTILE THIS IS WHAT OUR EMPLOYMENT BEGIN YEAR OVER YEAR OVER THE SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME. PHILLY SOUL A POSITIVE STORY REFLECTS WHAT WE ALL KNOW TAKING PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HEAR THE DETAILS THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN TERMS OF LOCAL EMPLOYMENT STATISTICS. I WILL NOT DWELL ON THIS SLIDE. WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT SURVEYS AND THESE ARE MAJOR INDUSTRIES AND CLEARLY CAN SEE THAT EDUCATION MAY HELP AS THE NUMBER ONE EMPLOYER THE MOST SIGNIFICANT GROWTH DURING THIRD QUARTER WHICH IS YEAR OVER YEAR GROWTH IN RETAIL TRADE AND PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS SERVICES.

I APOLOGIZE IF THIS SLIDE IS NOT FULLY DISPLAY BUT YOU DO HAVE IT IN THE BOOKS BEFORE YOU. SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE EMPLOYMENT STATISTICS FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY AND FOR EACH OF OUR CITIES WITH POPULATION OVER 25,000 AND PARTICULARLY I HIGHLIGHT THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY

IS 4.8% IN MARCH 2016 IN THE LAST TIME WE SAW UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAT LOW WAS AT THE END OF 2007. SO IT HAS BEEN A WHILE. AND AGAIN I APOLOGIZE IF THE SLIDE IS PLAYING THE WAYS. THIS MORNING WHEN I LOOKED AT IT WAS A TEST DRIVE. MOVING ON TO RESIDENTIAL PERMIT DATA THIS WAS ANOTHER GREAT POSITIVE PIECE OF NEWS IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST QUARTER THIS IS THE ORANGE BAR WITH 437 PERMITS TOTALING JUST SHY OF $138 MILLION WITH THE 437 PERMITS. THE LAST TIME WE HAD SEEN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT ACTIVITY IN THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET OF THIS SIZE IS THAT THIRD QUARTER OF 2007. SO AGAIN, IT HAS BEEN A WHILE THIS IS VERY POSITIVE STORY IN AND OF ITSELF. BUT CERTAINLY TERMS OF GROWTH YEAR-OVER-YEAR 65% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PERMITS AND 71 PRODUCING THE TOTAL VALUE DOLLAR THE PERMITS. AND HERE'S THE DETAIL FOR EACH OF OUR CITIES AND CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF THE LANE WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMITS NOW FOR 4 QUARTERS . FILMS $30 MILLION.

WHERE THEY BUILDING ALL OF THESE HOUSES?

MR. CARL RECENTLY MOVED AND I WILL LET HIM ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

OKAY WILL TALK LATER. I WOULD STATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT APPROVES THE POINT THAT WE DO NEED THAT STATION IN THE LAND. JUST A LITTLE POINT.

MOVING ON TO COMMERCIAL.

>> ALSO VERY POSITIVE STORY IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2016. EXCUSE ME WITH $107 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMITS. AND THIS IS 84% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF 115% INCREASE IN THE TOTAL DOLLAR VOLUME. HEAR THE DETAILS FOR EACH OF THE CITIES ON THE COMMERCIAL DECONSTRUCTION SIDE. AND THEY REPRESENT ROUGHLY 65% ALMOST 2/3 OF THAT FIRST QUARTER ACTIVITY WITH $70 MILLION. ARE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT OCCURRED THERE BUT ALSO WITH THE SPECIFICS THAT THEY HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT ACTIVITY WITH OVER $30 MILLION. THAT'S IN AN EDUCATIONAL SETTING A SHORES HAS MULTIFAMILY UNIT THAT IS GOING UP AND THE TOTAL DOLLAR VALUE OF THE FACILITY IS OVER $8 MILLION. ADMIN OR SAY THERE IS AN OR CITY MEDICAL BILL OF OVER $2 MILLION. THERE IS ACTIVITY OCCURRING AROUND THE COUNTY AND NOT JUST IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA BUT MY PERSPECTIVE IMPORTANTLY WERE DIFFERENT FACETS OF OUR ECONOMY AND NOT JUST IN ONE PARTICULAR COURT.

SO IT IS A VERY POSITIVE STORY. AS A LOOK AT THE FORECLOSURE SLIDE

ALL SHARE WITH YOU SOME RESPECTS -- RECENT NATIONAL STATISTICS FROM CORE LOGIC FROM THE FEBRUARY 2016 REPORT NATIONWIDE AND THE FORECLOSURE INVENTORY TOTALS 1.1% OF ALL HOMES THAT HAVE A MORTGAGE. IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER BUT IT'S DOWN FROM 1.5% A YEAR AGO. IS THE LOWEST FORECLOSURE INVENTORY SINCE NOVEMBER 2007. ARE STARTING TO HEAR THAT THEME OF FIRST-QUARTER 16 VERSUS THE END OF 2007. THE NUMBER OF HOMES IN SOME STAGE OF FORECLOSURE NATIONWIDE AND THEN THAT IS DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 571,000 AND FEBRUARY

FEBRUARY 2015. AND FINALLY THE FIVE STATES WITH THE HIGHEST COMPLETED FORECLOSURES IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND THE GOOD NEWS IS FLORIDA LED THE WAY WITH 72,000 AND OTHER 4 STATES ARE MICHIGAN TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA AND OHIO.

THE LAST SLIDE REFLECTING THE TURN THAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING FOR THAT TIME PERIOD YOU SEE REPRESENTED SINCE 2007 AND 2016 AS IT RELATES TO WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES. THE TWO 2007 AND 2016 THE NUMBER OF WIND ON BUSINESS ENTERPRISES ROSE BY 42%. SUDDENLY THE NUMBER OF NET NEW WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES STARTED PER DAY IS SHOWN ON THE BAR TOWARDS THE LEFT WITH THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD ENDING IN 2007 7-14 ENDING IN 2016 UP TO 1000 WHICH IS VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. THE THIRD POINT THAT I WILL MAKE IS THESE ENTERPRISES IN STARTUPS ARE FIVE TIMES FASTER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR SMALL BUSINESS IN GENERAL AND AS WOMEN FOR THEMSELVES OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND STARTING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. AND BACK TO TOMORROW MORNING'S PRESENTATION AT THE AIRPORT WILL TOUCH ON FIVE THEMES BRIEFLY AND INCUBATION WILL BE ONE OF THESE THEMES AND WE WILL HAVE A WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS OWNER THERE UPDATE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON HER RECENT SUCCESS ON THE VENTURE CAPITAL COMPETITION THAT OCCURRED AT THE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS AND COLLEGE. IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE AND $50,000 AWARD FOR HER. SOME OF THE OTHER TEAMS WILL TOUCH ON WITH INCUBATION WILL GO TO INCARCERATION. THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS THAT DIVERSITY THEME THAT INITIATIVE. THIS YEAR FOR US AND THE DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND ACCOUNTING RESOURCES WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CORRECTIONS DIVISION AND THE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO GO EXPERIENCE LIFE IN THE CORRECTIONS COUNTY JAIL. THE INTERNET WILL COME AND JOIN US TOMORROW FOR SOME OF THEIR PERSPECTIVE TRICK IS ARE WELL AWARE IT IS FAIR BACK TO SOME OF OUR EMPLOYMENT GROWTH WITH GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE RESIDENT IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THE THIRD THING WILL BE THIS PRESENTATION IN THE FOURTH THING WILL BE PATRICIA BOSWELL THE HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATOR AND THEY'RE BASICALLY DOING SOME EDUCATION AND HOPEFULLY THERE IS NO INOCULATION TOMORROW. AND FINALLY, THE HAVE COLLABORATION. WILL HAVE ONE VOICE FOR VOLUSIA

WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A FEW MINUTES OF WHAT IT IS THAT THEY DO. I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE IF I LEFT WITHOUT SHARING WITH YOU THAT THIS ARRIVED IN OUR OFFICE THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY FROM THE GOOD FOLKS AT MEDICAL AND MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE OF HAD A GREAT EVENT WITH GOVERNOR. SCOTT A WEEK AGO MONDAY THIS IS ANOTHER PRIVATELY HELD FOR ITS ALSO OF GERMAN ORIGIN IN THE HAVE THE US HEADQUARTERS IN PENNSYLVANIA AND LIMITED ANNOUNCEMENT A WEEK AGO MONDAY TO SPEND AT LEAST $100 MILLION IN OUR COMMUNITY

TO EXPAND WHAT WE ALL KNOW IS THERE ON MASON AVENUE WITH AT LEAST 175 NEW EMPLOYEES. FOR SOMEONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN LOOKING AT THIS EXPANSION THEN I WOULD SUGGEST YOU THIS REALLY PUT AN EXCLAMATION POINT ON WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE HERE THIS MORNING IN THE FIRST QUARTER. SO WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THIS WAS A GREAT WORK WITH A BE WRONG.

MR. DINEEN YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP COMMENT?

YES I WANTED TO COMMEND ROB SPECIFICALLY AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THIS EVENT AND THIS PROCESS THAT WAS A WHILE BACK IN TERMS OF GIVING AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS A QUARTERLY UPDATE AND WILL KEEP ALL OF THESE STATISTICS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL , HOW MUCH THEY REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. THESE THEMES THAT ROB DOES ON HIS FRIDAY'S HAS BECOME A RALLYING POINT WHERE PEOPLE COME AND THERE IS A BRIDGE THAT MAY BE TOO FAR BUT IT'S THAT NEXT BRIDGE AND WENT A STEP FURTHER THAN I THINK WHAT THEY HAD EXPECTED US TO DO. ABILITY THINK THE PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT VOLUSIA COUNTY TRIES TO GIVE THAT OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS GOING ON BOTH NATIONALLY AND LOCALLY. AND THAT IS NOT IN OUR ORIGINAL MISSION BY GIVING THIS DATA AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD YOU THAT THIS IS A MEASURING STICK THAT THEY LIKE TO COME IN AND TALK TO ROB AND WE'RE NOT POLLYANNA ABOUT IT BUT WE ARE RATHER UPBEAT. AND I THINK WHAT PEOPLE OF CHILDREN WHATEVER YOU DO TO KEEP DUTIES OF THESE ARE REALLY GETTING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY THEM AND THEY TAKE THE INFORMATION BACK TO THEIR PERSPECTIVE COMPANIES AND THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND I HAVE HEARD SO MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT US LEADING THE WAY GOING ON AT THE MOMENT AND COUNTYWIDE NOT PAROCHIAL.

AND I WANT TO THANK ROB WITH THAT INFORMATION AND THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB PRESENTING IT. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ENJOYED THIS AND I THINK IT HAS BE GONE BEYOND THAT IT IS REALLY BECOME A COMMUNITY SERVICE.

MR. PATTERSON JUST A QUICK COMMENT AND ALSO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THIS. WHEN I GET OVER THERE AND SEE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NETWORK OF PEOPLE SHARING IDEAS AND WORKING TOGETHER. THIS IS WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT. INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THESE MEETING THAT WILL GO OUT AND TALK ABOUT IT IN THE WORD GOES NOT ONLY HERE IN VOLUSIA COUNTY BUT ALSO ELSEWHERE IN THE OTHER THING IS PARTICULARLY IS IT PLASTIC OR GLASS? I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE COMMENTS THAT THEY HAVE MADE ABOUT HOW THEY WERE WELCOMED INTO VOLUSIA COUNTY AND HOW JETBLUE WAS TELLING US THAT THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN RECEIVED BY JETBLUE AND ALL OF THE AIRPORTS THERE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN WELCOMED IN THEIR WELCOMED IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. SO IT REALLY SHOWS AND IT WILL PAY OFF FOR US IN THE LONG RUN. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND IT'S GREAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH YOUR STAFF AND ALL OF YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF IT AND ELSE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE TEAM VOLUSIA AND THE CEO THAT HAVE HELPED US TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE.

MR. CHAIR IF I COULD ADD ONE THING TO THAT COULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME THAT I NEED TO MAKE A COMMENT. ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN AN ACTIVE INTEREST IN THE SIGNIFICANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE AND THE RELEVANCE OF THE COUNCIL CONTROLLING THE AIRPORT. THERE IS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER THIRD PARTY, WHICH IS THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED TO INTERVENE BETWEEN COUNSEL AND ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN THE AIRPORT WORK I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHEN I PUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOGETHER WITH THE AIRPORT THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS BEGINNING OF A TREND . WE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH RICK AND ROB THAT'S IT NOW EVERYBODY HAS A NEW IDEA THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR QUITE A WHILE. BUT THE POINT IS THAT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE -- BECAUSE I'M A BIG BELIEVER THAT THEY

COUNCIL GETS ELECTED AND THAT THE COUNCIL BE THE APPROPRIATE PARTY TO CONTROL THINGS LIKE THE BEACH AND AIRPORT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THINK THE BEST DECISIONS ARE MADE HERE LOCALLY AND THE BEST DECISIONS COME OUT OF THIS GROUP IS CLOSE TO THE MAJORITY RULE HERE ALMOST EVERY CASE AS THE RIGHT DECISION. I THINK THAT HAVING DIRECT MUNICATION AND DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS AIRPORT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THIS COUNCIL IS VERY IMPORTANT. BECAUSE HE CAN HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THIS IS A DIRECT COMMUNICATION TO GET THAT WORKED. AND THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED IS SOME KIND OF SEPARATE BODY WHICH I DO THINK THAT PEOPLE PUSH AT US MAY THINK THAT IF YOU'RE HERE LONG ENOUGH AND YOU LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHERE BETTER OFF HAVING THE COUNCIL HERE. THANK YOU.

MR. WAGNER.

I HIT THE BUTTON BEFORE MR. PATTERSON SPOKE AND HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. AT EVERY POINT IN THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU BUT I WILL NOT BE THERE TOMORROW MORNING. OKAY WE HAVE GOT ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE WE GO DOWN TO LUNCH. I'M NOT FEELING UP TO BE BACK HERE THIS AFTERNOON. I'M ABOUT READY TO DROP OUT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS IF THE COUNCIL OR MR. WAGNER YOU ARE NOT COMING BACK EITHER, ARE YOU?

OKAY. SO IF THE COUNCIL WOULD PLEASE INDULGE MR. WAGNER AND MYSELF I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND ONE REQUEST WITH THE REGISTRATION FEE . AND THE AWARD OF EXCELLENCE FOR LOCAL LEADERSHIP AND THE HUMANITARIAN AWARDS AND THAT THE HAVE INVITED ME AND INVITED YOU GUYS UP TOO TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL TO BE AUTHORIZED TO GO AHEAD AND PAY THAT FEE OUT OF THE ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THIS. >> ARE YOU GOING TO ASK ME THAT NOW? I DON'T KNOW.

IT DOES NOT MATTER. MOVE APPROVAL.

IT'S AT THE MONTH OF MAY.

THE MOTION AND THE SECOND FOR APPROVAL. UP AT THE THIRD. MR. CHAIR WITH THE QUALIFICATION IS ANYONE ELSE GOING IN? IS IT WERE ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO GO?

HOW MUCH IS IT DO YOU KNOW? >> I THINK IT IS EVERY $3000 OR COULD SPONSOR TABLE FOR 10,000. >> I WAS JUST ABOUT READY TO SEND THE REQUEST.? >> MR. CHAIR IF JOSH IS GOING TO GIVE COMMENTS LET ME LOOK THIS UP SO WE HAVE THE PARTICULARS.

I WILL GET THIS RIGHT NOW WHILE WE'RE WAITING.

TENTATIVE APPROVAL AND WE WILL HOLD ON THE TABLE AND THE VOTE IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT WILL LOOK WITH MR. WAGNER. WITH COMMENTS.

I WILL SAVE MINE FOR 2 WEEKS SO THAT HOPEFULLY FOR GOOD GET THAT MEETING DONE.

SO YOU HAVE THE AFTERNOON?

THANK YOU. ARE WELCOME.

OKAY WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU INTEREST 2 MINUTES.

OKAY

MS. DENYS TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY FOR 2 MINUTES?

NOW JUST MY FINAL COMMENTS. ON TO THANK STAFF WHO DID THE FINAL OPENING WITH MARK SWANSON AND HIS TEAM THAT DID A GREAT JOB AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS THERE AND A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND THEY JUST REPRESENTED AS WELL. IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO START OUR GREAT SEASON DOWN THERE AT THE BEACH. AND IT IS A GREAT BUILDING AND I WOULD TELL YOU MR. MANAGER THAT WOOD SACKS THAT WE THANKED COUNTY COUNSEL FOR THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON EIGHTH AND 12th ST. OVER THERE ARE NO WE'RE JUST STARTING THAT PROCESS BUT IT HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED WITH A LOT OF TALK AND APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT COUNCIL IS TEAM. AND I TOLD YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THE REST OF THE WORK THAT WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY WITH OVER 90 DO WALKOVER IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. SO PLEASE KNOW THAT THE STAFF WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU.

THAT'S GREAT AND I WILL TELL YOU A SORT OF A FOLLOW-UP THAT HAVE TALKED TO GARY BRITAIN AND AM EXTREMELY PLEASED FOR ALL OF US THAT HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN THAT THE PROCESS THAT THEY ARE USING AND THE CONTRACTORS AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT AN EXCELLENT JOB TO PUT IN THAT SIDEWALK AND ALL OF THAT PIPING INTO DO AS LITTLE DISRUPTION IN A DIFFICULT PLACE TO WORK. AND JERRY WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE SURE. IT IS TOUGH WORKING DOWN THERE . AND HE WAS DRIVEN NOT ONLY HOME BUT DRIVEN DOWN THERE TO SEE HIM AND JERRY AND I HAD WORKED OUT HE WAS BLOCKING OUT TIME THAT THEY GET IT ALL DONE AND I'LL TELL YOU WILL BE PROUD OF THAT BIKEWAY AND ALL OF THE DRAINAGE THAT WE DID DOWN IN THAT AREA. IT WILL BE AN ENORMOUS IMPROVEMENT BUT THE PROCESS TO THE CONTRACTORS IS ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT.

RUNNING IT DOWN NOW. WILL BRING IT DOWN AND THEN WE CAN FINALIZE IT TECH MR. CHAIR JUST ONE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE MINUTES. MR. LOWERY?

ACTUALLY GEORGE HAS SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT?

YES WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?

TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.

WHAT I HAVE HERE IS A HAD SENT OUT TO EVERYONE THE SITE ANALYSIS FOR THE TRUCK SERVICE PLAZA ON I 4. THE DOT HAS ASKED IF WE WANT TO SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT IF THEY GO ANY FARTHER IN THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS IS THAT THERE IS A TRUCK STOP ON THE SYSTEM AND THE LONGWOOD AREA NOW AND OF COURSE PART OF THE ULTIMATE I-4 WORK OUT IN THERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT IN THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WANTED THE DOT TO STUDY MOVING IT OUT OF THAT AREA SO THEY DID LOOK AT OUR INTERCHANGES. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THOUGH IN WHETHER THEY MOVE IT UP HERE AND THAT PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO TAKE IT OFF THE SYSTEM AND PUT IT AS WITH THE CALL A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OF TRUCK STOPS AND GAS STATIONS AND THAT KIND OF THING. IT WILL BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND OFF THE SYSTEM AT ONE OF OUR INTERCHANGES AS PART OF THE STUDIES WITH THE NUMBER ONE INTERCHANGE AT THEY IDENTIFIED HERE WITH STATE ROAD 44. THEY GIVE THESE VARIOUS SCENARIOS OF THE QUADRANTS THAT THEY SENT OUT AND MR. BOOKER FROM THE DOT HAS ASKED THAT I GET SOME SORT OF FEELING FOR THE SUPPORT AND WE COULD DRAFT A LETTER BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO GO FOR OR AGAINST OR IF YOU WANTED MORE INFORMATION WE ARE WELCOME TO PROVIDE THAT.

I KNOW THAT GEORGE IS GOING TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU. BUT THE POINT IS WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW IS IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED

IN WHICH IS NEED TO SAY WE ARE NOT INTERESTED AND MOVE ON.

SO WILL NOT GET BEAT UP IN THE FUTURE FOR SAY WE ARE NOT INTERESTED?

NO. >>

MS. DENYS.

LET ME GET IT STRAIGHT OTHER COUNTY DOES NOT WANT ITS OF THEIR GIVING IT TO US? IS THAT THE REQUEST?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING

AND I WILL NOT BE POLITICALLY CORRECT ANYMORE WITH FLORIDA DOT BECAUSE OF A SEE THE PROTOCOL IS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED AND OTHER ISSUES. NO. I DON'T WANT THE TRUCK STOP VOLUSIA COUNTY. I DON'T WANT IT . I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE TRUCK STOP VOLUSIA COUNTY INTO SEND IT BACK TO THE COUNTY THAT HAS IT .

OKAY . I HAVE A SECOND AND A THIRD AND A FOURTH AND THE FIFTH WITH MR. DANIELS AS THE OFFICIAL SECOND ON THAT MOTION TO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL OF THE TRUCK STOP COMING TO VOLUSIA COUNTY. MR. DANIELS YOU STILL WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE? I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD THE VOTE.

YOU HAVE TO TURN THE MICROPHONE ON AND I THINK THAT MS. DENYS SAYS IT ALL IN A WANT TO SECOND THE MOTION AND I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO IT AGAIN GETTING THIS DONE THAT NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE A TRUCK STOP IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT IT BRINGS FOR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE GONE. AND THAT THIS WILL BE IS THAT IT WILL TRASH UP THE INTERCHANGE AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH OUR INTERCHANGES. BEFORE WE GO TO VOTE. THAN THE ORIGINAL INTENT IS WHAT THEY HAVE NOT THE FOREMAN WITH THE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TYPE OF DEAL WITH ABOUT $5 MILLION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AS A TAX BASIS AND IT WORKS OUT. THE TRUCKERS HAVE A REAL PROBLEM AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH REST AREAS FOR THEM AND WE CAN ONLY DRIVE SO MANY HOURS THEY ARE GETTING BUSTED RIGHT AND LEFT IN TIME AND NOBODY WANTS THEM. SO WHEN THEY FIRST APPROACHED ME ON THAT , SAID LET'S LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON. ONE OF THE SITE IS OUT NEAR THE FAIRGROUNDS GOT A CALL FROM PEOPLE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND I HAVE NO DESIRE TO BE LYNCHED.

[ LAUGHTER ]

THESE ARE MY FOLKS. AND THESE ARE MY PEOPLE OUT THERE. I LIVE CLOSE TO IT. THERE WERE THREE LOCATIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WORK AND THERE WERE ALSO LOOKING DOWN AT 472. I THINK THE PRUDENT THING AT THIS TIME IS THIS THING WAS VIOLENTLY OPPOSED SO WITH THAT DOT WAS LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE SITES I WISH THE TRUCKERS WELL AND VISITING YOUR CHRISTMAS TIME WITH PROBLEMS THIS BECAME SLIGHTLY SYMPATHETIC WITH THIS WHOLE THING LISTENING TO HOW HE HAS TO DRIVE AND SME RISK GETTING THAT HEFTY FINE JUST BECAUSE HIS DRIVING MORE HOURS THAN REQUIRED. SO WITH THAT, I MOVE FOR THE QUESTIONS.

WE WERE GOING THERE ANYWAY. SO THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CALLING FOR THE QUESTION PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES AND ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED. THE QUESTION IS THE DENIAL. OF THE TRUCK STOP IN VOLUSIA COUNTY PRETTY MUCH THIS IS THE VOTE OF THE WRONGLY WORDED LETTER. THE STRONGLY WORDED LETTER. REFUSING THE TRUCK STOP AND ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES. ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED AND SO CARRIED.

THE COST OF THE TICKETS FOR THE EVENT WITH CONNIE AND GLENN AND RITCHIE AWARD EVENT FRIDAY, MAY 13

DAYTONA 500 CLUB HUNDRED 50 PER TICKET AND 1500 PER TABLE. IF YOU HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WITH YOU VOTE FOR FIVE LETTERS AND HOW EVERY VOTE AND WHO WILL INTERPRET IT THAT WAY.

HERE IS THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. 2013 AND FRIDAY THE 13th. I'M NOT GETTING AWARD THAT THEY.

WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE THE MOTION FOR COUNCILMEMBERS TO CHOOSE TO ATTEND.

CORRECT AND IF BY CHANCE THEN IF IT LOOK LIKE WE HAD 10 PEOPLE THAT MAY JUST BE THE SAME.

WE HAVE THAT OPTION OPEN.

VERY GOOD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SO WE CARRY THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

EXCUSE ME MR. CHAIR CAN YOU TELL ME WAS THE MAKER?

THE MAKER WAS MS. DENYS THE SECOND WAS WHO? THE SECOND WAS FRED AND I HAD TO THINK. AND I HAVE TO DIGRESS TOO FAR BACK A COUPLE OF MINUTES BUT WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? THE TRUCK DRIVERS. I DON'T SEE THAT BUT IF SOMEBODY SAID I HAVE 30 ACRES HERE AND I WANT TO MAKE MY OWN TRUCKSTOP TO PULL IN HERE. WE'RE NOT THE DOT WOULD NOT SAY WHAT IF SOMEBODY DID THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

THE BIG PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THAT IS THAT FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE THE OFF THE HIGHWAY AND THE ENORMOUS PROBLEM PRETTY TRUCKS OFF THE HIGHWAY YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES.

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY DO IT IN ALMOST EVERY STATE OF GEORGIA ALL UP AND DOWN THE ROAD OF GEORGIA.

YOU HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME DOING THAT UNLESS IT IS RIGHT ON INTERSTATE AND EVEN THEN, THE IMPLICATIONS WITH THIS DEPENDS ON HOW TO SET UP. AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE TRUCKERS THAT ARE GOOD PEOPLE BUT I ALSO KNOW SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS HAVE TURNED OUT NOT WELL MANAGED TO BRING WITH THEM A MULTITUDE OF ISSUES. AND THE REASON AS MS. DENYS SAID AND SHE WAS NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT BUT RIGHT TO THE POINT THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT AND THAT'S FINE NOW THAT IF SOMEBODY PULLS OFF THE STUFF GOES TO WALMART AND WALMART SO SURE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME WALMARTS THAN WOULD GO TO THE ROTARY PARK THERE AND HAVING DONE SO.

IN FACT WE TALK ABOUT THAT STRONGLY WORDED LETTER WE ARE NOT THAT DESPERATE.

WE DO LIKE THIS. AND I'M NOT DESPERATE TODAY.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT WILL TAKE A LUNCH BREAK. 2 MINUTES EARLY. WILL RECESS UNTIL 2:00. MR. PATTERSON I WILL HAVE TO THE GAVEL FOR THE AFTERNOON SESSION.

VERY WELL. MY LAST ACT TODAY IS TO SAY WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 2 PM.

>> [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

>> [Meeting on recess until 2pm] >> Called a meeting back to order, Kelly McGee, you are recognized.

Thank you. Georgie you and say a few words? >> Just going to point out that the next three items are related. But copy wanted to go three legislative update first, kind of what we had been doing and have done, and then, the next item we will talk a little bit about where we want to go especially with the grand portion.

First thing is like to do, is express our extreme gratitude, and as well as their partners and our partners the supported groups

who have the Congressman Joe Porter as part of our legislative team. We were fortunate enough to travel to Washington DC recently in so this is going to be sort of a recap of those meetings that we had, Arlene and Jamie will actually -- Jamie will come up next and give us a few introductory remarks and then I will speak on water quality issues. And Jamie and Arlene will follow up and will have a very quick recap.

But, I'd really like to start off by saying, that we believe we are taking a whole new approach a more active approach to our federal lobby . The team that we have here, was quite remarkable. I used to be a water quality lobbyist in Washington DC, I was sort of in the trenches kind of lobbyist where he met with staff members and you worked your way up, this team that we have actually not only as the existing relationship with the staff but it is quite

a few years that it took to build. But they could pull senators and congressmen out of committee to speak with us. And

the staff were all amazing. They had clearly been briefed, Jamie had sent over correspondence ahead of time they knew the issues that we were going to talk about. They were very well prepped on everything. Everything went really smoothly. And we had the synergies come out of these hundred -- these meetings we hadn't anticipated. With that, I'm going to ask Jamie to come up and give us his input on what he did to pull these numbers -- and members of Congress to get your -- members of Congress together. And then the substance in follow-ups of the meeting. >>

I am Arlene Smith with legislative affairs.

You are recognized, thank you.

Jamie and I are going to be working together to talk about these meetings. We met with all of the Volusia delegation, he met with Senator. Nelson, Senator. Rubio, Congressman Mica, Congress woman Brown, and Jamie will give you a little bit about why he chose those people in the reasons not just because they are Volusia delegations but for other reasons as well.

You recognize the schedule.

Thank you, sir. Nice to see you all. And, really really excited about the progress that we've made a short amount of time, and we have quite a visit I know that the chairman went to the schedule, and even on one leg, I think is a little more than he expected.

But I had on heels.

I think your feet were so swollen you couldn't walk the next day.

What color were they?

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I heard you talk about representative government at its finest, and I think we have a good representation of that in Washington. Is a question of taking a new approach and what kind of partners are we going to be. We going to be proactive and in discussions as they are happening and before decisions are made? Or are we showing up after dinner is served and wondering where our portion is. I think that we have made a lot of progress, we had a lot of great meetings with great people. And just as you said, Senator. Nelson as you may know, he is leaving the discussions and I know that that is something you -- that the Council will consider. And one to make sure that the president package and -- present package and what they are pushing has municipalities in mind especially important. That has been a significant amount of time. So just that repetitive updating, and asking as these things are being decided, rather than after they decided if it made a difference, for a better partner, I know there was some discussion about Chairman Mica, and in many ways, I saw that as a real positive discussion because it gives us a roadmap forward and it's the best possible explanation and outlines for the engagement and having regular dialogue. And going from where we are not necessarily getting the information that he is requested turning that on its ear and being proactive and looking for ways to be of assistance.

And outside the Volusia delegation, we met with my ideas -- me ideas.

We had to pull him out of the committee which he was chairing at the time, so that was quite a feat. We met with Congresswoman, the chairman, and Mike Brink who is the deputy staff director of the house Veterans Affairs committee and, we met with the Honorable. Patrick Murphy, the secretary of the United States Army who by the way, overseas Army Corps of Engineers.

And to know that James. COLA, to know that we are -- James company on the same team, I got this before Kelly right, and this is one of the gentlemen that we met with, talking about that program.

In the idea now, is that while the formulas are different there will be more estuary and it will be in subcommittee that actually funds the bill. So, we're having these discussions as they are happening. And let you know that Kelly was on fire in that meeting. She was talking about specific things in this district and that's the sort of connection need to make with folks in time that to the program overall, and I think that the secretary of the Army as you see, there are a couple of ways to look at the administration. When a lot of things go through quietly at night which is good and bad. But at the same time you want to be prepared to be proactive that if there is an opportunity we are discussing some of the ongoing issues but if we can get the Army Corps of Engineers to take a serious look at some issues that we have we're in a good position to do that.

The meetings were really good. They were full, there were many of them. We had several issues that we discussed, and as Miss McGee mentioned before she will address the issue of water quality.

Your recognize. >> -- Your recognize.

So what I'd like to do basically, is give you a brief experience of what we presented to each member of Congress and each Senator. Some members we had a lot of time with. Representative Brown gave us an extraordinary amount of time and we sat down with her and her staff and she came over from the floor to meet with us and we had quite a lot of time to talk about water quality, how the river flows north towards Jacksonville the dredging that's happening there, to make those connections between the different districts.

And with each member that we met with we gave them a packet of information and in that packet of information we have our fertilizer, before it in hand light -- handout as everyone knows.

And we talked about our efforts in the efforts around the state to reduce the nutrients in our waterways by fertilizing smart avoiding in creating buffers between fertilizers enter boundaries and we talked about the Indian River Lagoon program and the eye around Council specific -- I RL

Council specifically that's what's happening in our backyard. We gave them the federal lobbying handout from the Council, and they have three recommendations,

and we went in and we circled the third one. These are all in your book. I think that this one is on page -- 24 -- five, to 24 -- three. And, -- 24.5, 224.3. We have increased funding, for national urgent needs we beat this drum, whether or not we have five minutes in a hallway, or 45 minutes in a representative's office. And, the staff were all taking notes, and we had really good follow-up for example, Congressman Santos, came out of committee to talk to us and he brought several staffers with him. Come to find out that he has a researcher on his staff who has been compiling data on the program. He has been tracking the fish kills, we have been communicating with him and it's actually his staff on a very regular basis showing him all the information that we have on the water quality sampling so that we can provide resources to those who make those policy decisions. We ask everyone to support and increase funding for the national estuary program. We also ask them to support the county's request to extend the boundaries of the national estuary program to cover the entire Volusia County waterway system. The benefit of this, would allow us to tap into date -- funding in Daytona Beach not just at Ponce Inlet which is basically that northern reach of the Indian River Lagoon. So that was very interesting we had interesting conversations on that front we were there at the right time. We were having committee meetings the very next week after we got back, both houses past this bill, which there were two cosponsors in the Florida delegations. So, we are very pleased to report, that in the upcoming NEP authorization Representative -- bill each one will be getting more money than they did last year. And most important, there is a $3 million grant, a system of grants that will be available to local governments. Sunset of the money just going through the system to the NEP's which they are getting a better chunk which is a good thing. We will also be able to apply directly for grants, but that led us into the discussion of our Volusia County water quality action plan that we developed beginning in 2014, and

this is all of our water quality programs. And we have at the Ocean Center we compile our list of water projects everything from connecting septic systems, to our regional system,

to supporting project H2O to having a water quality we were able to show that investment that Volusia County is making they want to see the local governments investing and that increases our chances of actually getting the grant money

my recommendation is that we continue this and reach out to the cities, and work on these projects

Daytona Beach has a storm water project, that had we known we could have lobbied in support of that funding. As well. So they're all good little synergies that are happening that we can assist each other on water quality issues but I think we are going to be ahead of the game when it comes to these grants because we have a plan. And we are working towards getting these projects ready. And we are to have a lot of points on the board. And with regards to our meeting with Congressman Mica, he had three big request. In two weeks with actually satisfied two of the three of them and we all know, that the state didn't apply for, but it was important that Council adopted that resolution -- that support. And what you did today with the integrated transportation signaling system, Congressman Mica specifically asked us to do that. And so, I think that that's huge. And we will be communicating that back to him.

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>>IN VETERANS AFFAIRS -- are Veterans Affairs office have selected a few of the most dire cases that we will be sending as a follow-up. This was a hot topic in Washington DC. When we met with Senator Nelson he brought it up to us and he asked is how concerned are Volusia people, the parishioners on the street, how concerned where we about the outbreak? >>We told them we had to the gut carrying mosquitoes and we have been collecting data for years. They asked that we send that data and mosquito control is compiling that now. >>We asked that they increase the funding for zika and they spend the money at home. Right now they are sending it to foreign countries. That is the summary. Any additional insight that you want to provide? >>[Indiscernible-low volume]. >>Just that in Senator Nelson's current proposal as of yesterday that is a main component of what he is putting forward and he is leaving those. -- Negotiations in the Senate right now. We just say thank you. It is exciting and this is a first step and obviously these relationships take years to come together and Volusia was well received and it was a proud moment for me personally.

>> Kelly McGee once again, to recap we want to be sure we are moving in the right direction, that we are sending the right messages. If you all accountable with the messages we are sending, we ask that you would authorize us to be nimble in our responses. What we have been doing historically is when we have a request we bring everything back to County Counsel, if you're spot -- culpable enough to send [ Indiscernible ] for a strategic plan for example the Marine science Center where we have items that we can respond to. I think that works best when things often happen quickly. For example this authorization bill is great, that is the first step. The next step is the appropriation bill where we have to be able to respond in a timely fashion. I would recommend that we continue the Washington DC trips that we always provide you a formal report like we are doing today so you can make sure that we are on the right track and that you are culpable with us responding as we need to.

>>Miss Cusack . Discussion time. >>I want to say thank you to [ Indiscernible ] and Mr. Denys. >>Thank you Mr. Chair. I just want to say thank you to the teams. I am very pleased with what I am hearing. If it is appropriate I would move that we go forward with the proposal as presented and that we understand with the understanding that you have the blessings, I know how fast things move and I say move, Goforth and do good work and make us proud. I am so proud of this [ Indiscernible ] I want to say Jamie, I am trying not to say Jamie. To Arlene and to Kelly, this is good work. You set the tone, with the opportunity presented itself you are ready to move and do what was necessary. That's what I like about it, that branch of government is the timing and you are moving in the right direction. I want you to know for me, Mr. Chair, I want to make sure that we are aware of what is going on they don't have to get our permission to proceed when the opportunity comes to move forward with issues as they present it.

>>Are you talking about item 25? >>We are on 24 right now. >>That is the update. I will accept the update and I will make the motion. >>Is to Wagner -- Mr. Weidner. >>I appreciate everyone's hard work. You know when she was up there someone is the smartest person in the room, she really is. It is great to have that. I am glad where we are going. I think we are doing it the right way. I think we are hands on. I think that is what we needed. I think Volusia County has to be there, I think the more we go up as individual councilmember staff the more we will see in the better outcome we will have. As far as handling cases and situations as they come, I absolutely agree. If it's with what we are trying -- it fits with what we are trying to do. I think having someone there that understands our strategies and where we want to go is helpful because we may not be one of the top three, if it is number eight and it brings in money and it is something we need, let's not just focus on [ Indiscernible ] let's make sure we get some low hanging fruit. >>Mr. Daniels. We are still on item 24. >>Thank you. I just wanted to echo what Josh said. I think we all feel the same way. You have our full support in going forward that this is really important and we are going about it the right way. For a long time I did not think that we were, if we have staff involvement and people who understand the issues, a lobbyist can open the door but you have to walk through it and explain the issues. If you are not there to walk through it and explain the issues it does not do any good. There is no way a lobbyist can know what our specific situation is. You guys are doing it right. I believe you will bring back a lot of funding to Volusia County, water is a good topic. A low hanging fruit sort of topic. Water and perhaps moving on to get that going and [ Indiscernible ] infrastructure, that will be another one that would be low hanging fruit type thing. Go forward and do good work. >>I want to say having been in the legislative process at Tallahassee and many times I have been to Washington over the years, you do have to have a presence. I would suggest that on certain issues where certain councilmembers have expertise such as Mr. Daniels on water issues or maybe his short time left on the Council he may want to represent us up there or other councilmembers. I don't want -- personally I do not want to see in a boondoggle trips. I would like to see people go up and get the job done. I told Congressman [ Indiscernible ] when I was working on the I-four bridge and we were trying to get funding for that in the 90s he darn near where my feet out but you can see we have a bridge and it took a lot of work at the federal, state and local level. It shows when you identify a project and you identify the project is something you want to do you go out and you work on it and you get all of the players involved. It was exciting for me because it took quite a few years but we did get that done just like son rail we will get that job done and we will get water quality issues. We might as well flagged this we are almost 100 members strong with a flyfishing group. We are really going great guns on worrying about it. It is tough for me to go [ Indiscernible ] because they look at me like why aren't you doing more? And I say you have to get involved yourselves rather than gripe about it. >>Nobody else wishes to speak. Let's move on to item 25. This is the staff report on the solution resources systematic research and pursue grant programs. I believe we will have a motion of approval and I will recognize [ Indiscernible ] when the time comes. >>This next item, what we did here, the first item was an example of part of what we are trying to make an official strategy, so to speak. Rick is going to present the building on this type of effort, where we would direct those efforts in the grant world and some other places we have been asked to look at. >>Rick Carl director of aviation [ Indiscernible ] resources. >>As you can see from the former presentation we are upping our game [ Indiscernible ] personal involvement to allow the county manager's office to come in and help us make this a countywide effort. We have some wonderfully skilled and talented people in this County [ Indiscernible ] George Washington Law grad and former fellow lobbyist. Folks out in our group that are very, very talented as we dial in and move forward. You will see things happen. >>As the title says it is a systematic approach to nonprogrammed grant funds. We are not talking about grant that we have [ Indiscernible ] on a day-to-day basis. We deal with FAA grants every day, just about every meeting has some to do with grant funding in every department. We are talking stuff outside of the box that is different. We are responding to your direction on January 21, you gave us a couple of two dues, one to negotiate contracts with our lobbyists to add to the federal lobbying effort, actually pursuing grant funds in particular. We also wanted to dedicate [ Indiscernible ] and expand our effort as you directed. What we came up with is a force part -- four-part solution that involves [ Indiscernible ] lobbyist, specialist consultant that we would need on a per term basis and nonprofit partnerships. >>It is Billy expanding the scope significantly. Part one is the county leadership, to echo what Mr. Daniels said, we are not just sitting back and saying we have a lobbyist who will give us reports and tell us what's going on, [ Indiscernible ] providing direct leadership and providing depth and detail of the information to each department and it vision in the county. We are developing a systematic approach that goes out to federal agencies, state agencies, nongovernmental organizations and nonprofit. >>Part two is the federal lobbyist. If you prove this and you want to go forward, we do have an amendment to our lobbyist contract to increase their scope and increase their fee. These are the items that you identified that we are pursuing, the water quality [ Indiscernible ] control and prevention, commercial space facilities, transportation, mosquito control, homelessness and veterans services. These are all the things we are focused on and we will continue to focus on. If you can get is within this framework to locate things and chase them down it would be very helpful. >>You will see in my budget the legislative activity, we are going to get significantly higher because we are adding for this next fiscal year because we're not only adding a little more for the fellow lobbyist, there will be a lot more travel, travel to Washington, it will not be cheap. We will be careful about it. We would like to see Mr. Daniels or another member come to Washington soon to work on water issues. I spoke to Jim [ Indiscernible ] at space Florida last night and he's trying to arrange [ Indiscernible ] to make this trip. I don't know if you want to individually approve these trips or how you want to do it, that is some guidance we would like to get but we are chasing these down. This is basically the federal lobbyist additional effort and we are talking about an extra $1500 a month from 6000-75 -- 7500 a month. That is what we are talking about with a budget increase of 18,000. >>Par three of the solution is after nonprofit. This is where Kelli McGee has a lot of experience . >>Kelli McGee director of growth and resource management. The idea is to reach out to nonprofits organizations, mainly that exist in Washington DC. They have members in every single district and are very good at reaching the public. We also have nonprofit here locally that we have already started it vesting in project H2O which is our project with the Marine discovery center and Stetson and [ Indiscernible ] and Daytona State College. These are resources that we can really take advantage of and we can really see as true partners in working on projects. If we have [ Indiscernible ] something is moving that we want to support, these nonprofits can actually do blast alerts out to their memberships.

>>When I was in DC I was able to meet with a old colleague of mine who is a vice president with a national nonprofit organization that does ocean advocacy. She was helping me brainstorm on estuary partnerships. Because it is little but out of their wheelhouse, sea turtles came up. I was telling her about our Marine science Center and we're looking to expand it. And we have this wonderful hospital and great partnership with the University of Florida. She said I have [ Indiscernible ] who is looking to shoot footage, bring a celebrity down and shoot footage with sea turtles. There is already synergy on things that we are doing and we could bring more awareness and publicity to the work that we do locally. >>The idea is we don't have any specific one nonprofit that we would be targeting for this funding, we would want to look at that systematically and talk to you before we engage in that. This is a preauthorization for a budget request, so should we have a solid partnership arise we would have the resources. >>Thank you. >>Continuing on, part four is engaging consultants. We don't know, we don't know and are we getting into specialized areas? There are firms that do specialized grant writing and specialized funds and chasing them grants. When we have the opportunity we would like to pursue those and engage them to help us with best practices. >>We would like to examine its the existing -- lovers existing talent and continue to expand with these activities. >>I just want to comment this team, there are others in the organization that are out here today they all have a day job that they work will hard at, these are folks that are willing to shift things around, add this to their busy schedules that they have it is a leveraging of that. We are talking about money that we put in the budget, a lot of things will be people putting in extra time because they are in these organizations, some of the nonprofits were some of us are members of professional organization and things [ Indiscernible ] things of these natures that they already have, an element that we can leverage, they have people in Washington and they have places that we could use. Kelly and her work, when we took kind of an inventory of what our folks do, we have people who sit on the national Red Cross board and work for us. They can provide a lot of help on almost every topic that we touch as a government. We want to go ahead and use this team and then use our contractor or lobbyist to help open those doors, check when the timing is right, they know that, we don't have time to do that but they'd have time and they will set us up. >>Then we will put the right people in the doorway and use the right resources that we have. Really this is a precursor to the next item which is [ Indiscernible ] I will let this serve as the staff report for the next item which was the increase in the Seward Square contract. >>Right now we need a motion approval on the components that were just presented. Ms. Cusack you are recognized. >>Thank you, Mr. Chair. >>[ Indiscernible ] to pursue grant funding at the federal level, add pursuit of [ Indiscernible ] grants that they would pursue federal rant -- grants and they would partner with the [ Indiscernible ] to pursue funding for opportunities with a federal lobbyist and retain consultants if necessary to pursue these grants. That is the motion Mr. Chair. >>Is there a second? Second from Mr. Lowry. The motion is -- >>The grant funding initiative as proposed by item 25.

>>Part one, two, three, and four. >>Ms. Denys you are recognized.

>>This is not to the motion but to the issue. I am very supportive of this especially working with Miss McGee and the team going forward. We're talking on the federal level we have to show up at the state level and some of these places. I think this Council and we have staff who are ready to engage in tackle those issues that maybe some of us are interested more in than others. I am going to use commercial space as an example. There are multiple meetings that happened throughout the state and the nation, Volusia County has yet to be at the table represented. I can tell you, it has been suggested that we show up at some of these meetings because sometimes it is just a conversation or tell me about that. We need more face to face of what we are talking about so in relationship for applying to things. >>I think we are at a point of really strengthening that week area that we have. I'm very supportive of this, about what we are taking at the federal level, there is a lot that we need to do to stay connected at the state level. I for one will be coming forward in the near future, I know there has been at least one I have been asked to go to next year in Colorado. I should get a call from there saying Volusia should be here. Why is it important? When we get to the point that we have sites consultants and we have major players in Volusia County we need to be at the table and understand all the ramifications and the reward. I think Volusia County is poised and ready for that. >>I think this is a great opportunity and a great expansion and I look for results in doing that. I think the timing is perfect. >>Any others? >>We have a motion to approve items solution part number one, two, three and number four. The debate. All in favor say I. Opposed say no. Motion passes 6-1 -- 6-0. Mr. chair is not here at the moment. >>I will add on, I will get to item 25 and 26 next. This Denys talking about the state level, I read the story Gray Robinson has merged with capital insight and former speaker of the house Kanin and [ Indiscernible ] are now members. I think we will have a different discussion with them coming up. >>Moving on to item number 26. This is an amendment to contract with Seward Square group to add pursuit of federal grant funding opportunities. In lieu of $18,000. Mr. Karl Mr.

>>Thank you Mr. Chair. We outlined it in the prior one. We have given the lobbyist additional responsibilities and we would recommend that you give them additional compensation. There may be other things that we move into, we move into the Indian River Lagoon and other things that may come back with additional task assignments if you would. We appreciate your support. >>Ms. Cusack your recognized. >>Thank you Mr. Chair. I would move for the approval to amend the contract for Stewart square to add pursuit of federal grant funding opportunities. In the amount of 1500.

>>Know it's 18. >>18,000. >>Is there a second? The motion is approved the amendment to Seward Square group pursuant a federal grant funding of $18,000, Mr. Wagner. >>One of the discussions were going through is a state federal issue, I think spaces one but I also think with water especially with the Lagoon in what is going on, we are [ Indiscernible ] away from a catastrophe. As we are having that discussion and engaging I really do think we need to look at having them, I hate to pile more work on but even if they had local staff or someone that could start going to that and engage them and have -- become a part of it. With our state lobbies we have to get with them because we need both lobbyist working together. They will not be able to do it apart from each other. If we can have staff with counsel, I am not making it as a part of the motion. I can't talk to direction. I will wait until the motion is over then I will comment.

>>The motion to amend contract with Seward Square group in the amount of 18,000 to pursue federal grant funding. All in favor say I. Opposed say no. Motion passes 6-0. Mr. Wagner you have a comment. >>This would be something I hope you can way your opinion on. My understanding is all the counties are going to utilize at some point their lobbyist, maybe working together as a team approach -- not a team approach but an angle. We need the federal lobbyist to work with the state lobbyist hand-in-hand, I don't want to say it is too big of a project for the state but it is too big of a project for the state. If can -- if you can way your opinion we might want to look at that now. >>You are absolutely right. We talked about it at the Indian River Lagoon Council. All of the counties that are members need to have the state lobbyist begin to support the program in Tallahassee and also in Washington. The idea would be to try to up the amount of money that is allocated to the estuary program in DC. Plus get the other pockets of money in DC that could come down here and help us with our problems. >>I don't know if estuary has the same problems that we do come down in South Florida they have the canals and Lake Okeechobee, but when you get down the on the big projects and dig ditch projects we have the same ones we have, they have septic tanks, they have thousands of septic tanks, septic tanks is a huge problem. It is something that the federal government has ignored up until now, they like canals, they like discharges from treatment plants that kind of thing. It has been hard to get them interested in septic tanks. That is a huge problem for the entire length of the Lagoon. Something would be good to get them to weigh in a bit. >>Item 27 the renaming of the memorial area in front of Osteen Civic Center to Walter Hawkins Memorial part -- Park. Mr. Bailey your recognized. >>My name is Tim Baylie. [ Indiscernible ] hosting trailhead and Civic Center be named the I Walter Hawker -- Caulkins Memorial Park. There is a presentation that I wanted to show you. For those of you that play with this, this was a staging area while we were building a trail that we temporarily supplied materials for the development of trails. Since that time after the trail was completed, we grasped it -- grasped -- grassed it and moved it to a more prominent location in Memorial Park. And now you will see the memorial is in its current position, grass, we also cleaned up the station underneath the area. It has been a great partnership between the county staff as well as working with volunteers to try and make this Memorial a little more prominent than what it was in the past. >>What you see in this slide is the sidewalk that was added, the flagpole that was added, the memorial that you see on the front side, then we also added an interpretive panel which I will show you in a second. Here is a another viewpoint from the surface area hosting Civic Center in the background. This is the interpretive panel that is directly adjacent to the memorial. That is to interpret the [ Indiscernible ] of the world war. There is one more element that will be added it will be a bench and we are in the process of having that purchased and installed. I do have Mr. health -- Pell to speak on the matter. Before I turn it over to him, the name of the park that is being requested, I Walter's. It was Isaac Walters Hawkins Memorial Park. >>Mr. Pell you are recognized. Name and address. >>My name is Albert Pell I reside at 400 tollroad hosting. I represent a group of hosting residence that have taken the task of building a veterans Park in [ Indiscernible ]. The park is located on County property. Donated to be used as a Veterans Memorial Park we find that we need a name approved by the County Council. We have decided to name it be I Walter Hawkins Veterans Memorial Park. A brief history of Mr. Hawkins is as follows. I think you can see that on your monitor. He was born in Milton Florida June 1987. He graduated from [ Indiscernible ] school of Law. He was a member of the Florida bar since 1926 until his death. He opened a law practice in Holly Hill. He was elected clerk of the court in Volusia County. He was elected to the House of Representatives in the state of Florida 1947-48. He was a honorable life member of the Elks club, he is active in the American legion. He served in the Army, World War I near [ Indiscernible ] France. He was awarded two purple hearts which by the way were stolen from his home. He retired in hosting Florida and was responsible for preserving Osteen memorial for veterans and the resolution for parkland from Volusia County commissioners. He played a major role in the establishment of [ Indiscernible ] water Association and Osteen volunteer fire department and the Civic Association.

>>We have approximately 140 papers that are being engraved to be a stalled with the service records inscribed on the papers. Dedication will be May 28 at 10:00 a.m. and served by the American Legion color guard. Thank you. >>Thank you, sir. >>Mr. Lowry . >>I just want to urge the Council supports. Mr. Pell came to me sometime back and we got the ball rolling. Would they have done a tremendous amount of work. I have also gotten other emails and calls from people in Osteen who would like to see us do this. It is a wonderful example of how we work together. There are not a lot of World War I memorial parks around. This is certainly a time to not forget about those people but to remember them. I just want to thank Mr. Pell for taking the time to let me know. >>Do want to make a motion? >>Yes, sir. I would like to make a motion that we approved the renaming of the park to the I Walter Hawkins Memorial Park. >>Second? Second by Mr. Denys. The motion is to rename the memorial area in front of the Osteen Civic Center to the I Walter Hawkins Memorial Park. Is there any other discussion? Any objection? Without objection the motion passes 6-0. Thank you Mr. Pell. Thank you Mr. Baylie. [ Indiscernible ] I do need to talk to you later. >>Thank you. >>The information that we put on the overhead, can we get a copy of that >>Yes I will make you a copy. >>I learned something from this experience. >>It is an amazing history and amazing memorial. I was driving to the airport the other weekend. On my way to and from the Sanford Airport, this Memorial is visible. It is very visible and the Council has done a really great job in engineering this. When we were going through all of that with the trail, you really took into consideration with the -- with the citizens wanted and made a bad situation not even better, but you made it great. Now we get to honor a great man. >>Mr. Lowery thank you for bringing this up and representing that area well. If my calendar permits I will be at the dedication, May 28 at 10 AM? >>Thank you. >>Moving on to item 28. Resolution urging the Florida Fish and while I've conservation commission to reinstate the prohibition on hunting Florida black hair -- there [ Indiscernible ] -- bear. >>Thank you Mr. Chair. I am Kelli McGee . As you recall Council directed staff to draft a resolution on the black bear hunting issue and that is what is before you today. The resolution does two things, your legal staff did all of the heavy lifting on this and Ginger Adair put together a lot of the fact that are used in preparation of this. The resolution would urge the FW see -- FWC to reinstate prohibition of bear hunting throughout the state and the alternative if they choose not to do that to restrict hunting in our central bear management unit of the state. If they will not restrict hunting statewide, perhaps they would restrict hunting in our area. Your agenda item includes several pieces of background information. I will give you a couple of points as an FYI. >>The population of the black hair is below the state minimum population target as well as it's being well below the biological carrying capacity forbears in essential management unit. There were 21 bears harvested in Volusia County and approximately 21% of the bears taken statewide were black feeding females. That's potentially extrapolates the number that were actually affected because each black feeding female has a proximally two cups. With that I do know there are members of the public that would like to speak to this item. Actually I have one more thing I want to mention. That is the work that the county has done to promote black bear habitat. The award-winning Volusia County land management Department division has worked for years on the volution forever -- Volusia forever program to acquire habitat and wildlife corridors throughout Volusia County. The local plan was one of the most recent items that we brought forward to you and that became a big issue at our administrative hearing. The [ Indiscernible ] folks actually set aside a large portion of the property as the Southwest wildlife corridor specifically for the management and protection of the black bears. They committed to having wildlife overpass and underpasses on the road and they have invested a lot of time and in fact the folks that are out there, they actually tracked the bears. They help us track the bear population. There are a lot of people in the county that have worked promoting wildlife habitat. >>Thank you. We have several members of the public who wish to speak on the issue. You will have three minutes to speak. We expect everyone to maintain some decorum in their speaking. Let's not get personal with the council members or anyone in the audience. If you do I will stop you. >>First up is Jaclyn Lewis and on deck is Megan Sorbo. Miss Sorbo if you could just stand and come down and be ready to go.

>>Good afternoon my name is Jaclyn Lewis. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak today.

>>Could we have your address. >>100 fallen timber Trail [ Indiscernible ]. >>Can we start the clock please?

>>We shared a transformative day her back on February 19 when we had a unanimous vote to ban the ban on tracking and set Volusia a part in the state and help us at a state level to maintain a safe environment and water storage. I'm here today to ask you to approve the resolution you have before you to begin state prohibition on bear hunting throughout the state [ Indiscernible ] are intention of removing conflicts between bears and humans in urban areas and to adopt [ Indiscernible ] at a minimum. Commissioners and many of us here today serve as [ Indiscernible ] during the so-called harvest. I served at the [ Indiscernible ] Altoona and at Lake George. We watched as hunters brought dead bear cubs and lactating mothers and other trophies were brought in ice cold, skinned and gutted within 30 minutes of the first day, first hour of the first day of the hunt. Reporting and recording were done on the honor system. When you [ Indiscernible ] at $100 a piece to get 300 bears all chaos breaks out. There was no one there to enforce the rules. There were no rules that day. I'm sorry. This is as much an issue of justice and democracy as an issue of environment to stewardship and protection. Poll after poll shows that the majority of Floridians, 75% were opposed to this hunt. Still FWC proceeded and said that it was an epic fail and not a harvest it was a massacre. Studies show that lethal management techniques are far more effective than hunts. From my own experience for my community are waste management team and I catalog each bear trash instead for a three-month period working together we were able to determine 1.5 hours of each [ Indiscernible ] spent picking up their related trash. We been pushed back the collection time so that waste can be put out on the day of pickup. We educated the community about these changes and we have had not one single incident since then. Still this past year more than 100 bears have been euthanized as a result of being in our neighborhood. Countless others killed on roads and poachers. Bears are not stupid they are hungry. For these reasons I urge you to approve this resolution, adopt their smart ordinances, stop selling off their food sources. Let us learn from our mistakes. You have the power and the ability to preserve and maintain Florida's beautiful natural resources for generations to come. I beseech you to exercise that power today. Please approve the resolution.

>>Thank you. >>Macon Sorbo and then after that Trevor Sorbo. >>Megan I need your name and address? >>Do I have to spell my name? >>I am Macon Sorbo -- Macon Sorbo [ Indiscernible ] of --

>>Your wickedness. >>I am here to speak on behalf of the Florida black bears. The bears are a statewide issue and I come before you as a concern Florida. In October 2015 the FWC authorize the first bear hunt in Florida in over 20 years. 305 bears were killed in today's, however this does not mean this hunt was a success in any way. The most sickening part of this was there were 3700 -- 3770 hunting licenses sold to kill only 320 bears. How can anyone considered that fair to a bear especially in the mind of hunters who call themselves sports men. Currently bears occupy only 18% of the historic range in seven [ Indiscernible ] isolated populations throughout the state. Can you imagine having [ Indiscernible ] your home reduced by 80%? And then having people want to come into your small home to hunt you where you were doing nothing wrong? I highly doubt anyone like that but that is what happened to our bears. The current population afford a is 20 million people, that means that over 19 million Floridians do not hunt, less than 5% of our citizens are hunters. There are now many voices of people like me who desire pure conservation with no selfish or bias motive to exploit the wildlife. The FWC recently completed an updated bear population estimate for the state using DNA collection and birth samples. If this sort of technology exists and is easily use I think it is also safe to expect that [ Indiscernible ] the bear population in our state should also be used. The undisputed fact remains that the majority of Floridians do not want bears to be hunted. I implore you to adopt a resolution against bear hunting in Volusia County. A resolution against bear hunting will help make my voice and other citizens voices to be heard a little louder where it was ignored allows -- last year. Bears have lost 80% of their habitat and have done nothing to deserve being killed. They give a much. >>Just a second. Stand up. What greater you in? >>Fifth-grade. >>Do me a favor. Finish high school, go to college and get a degree. Run for public office just don't come here and run against me. Thank you for your participation. >>Trevor Sorbo. And Katrina [ Indiscernible ] is next. >>My name is Trevor Sorbo. 11803 sheltering Pine Drive Orlando Florida. >>Your recognize. >>2012 Florida Fish and wildlife conservation commission down listed the Florida black bear from a threat to non-threatened species. However this was without an accurate population count and three years later in 2015 they decided to hold the first bear hunt or harvest against [ Indiscernible ] without an accurate population count, some of the bear management [ Indiscernible ] have not been counted since 2002 and yet we are making plans to manage the bear population. One of the statistics they noted is there has been an increase in the roadkill death of these bears and that would be due to the population increase. However if we take a critical look at this with many areas in Florida the bear habitat has been encroached upon and many streets have been developed and we need to look at that it is not that the population is increasing but there are many areas where the habitat of bears is being destroyed and I applaud Volusia County for their fantastic effort to offset that, but other counties in the state are not taking those significant measures. >>We sold 3770 permits for a harvest of 320 bears which means there are's does make there is 10 hunters for every bear to be killed. Understanding that is overharvesting areas with one area had three times as many bears killed as the population could sustain. There was no regulation of the blatant rip -- of the hunt. You can find video on YouTube of a hunter coming up and telling the hunter they violated the rules with no consequences. Making people look at why we decided to have a hunt and why the shouldn't been. There is over [ Indiscernible ] sent to the after BC regarding hunt and 75% were in opposition and only 1% of Floridians are hunters. If we take a deeper look at the composition of the commission making the decision. All but one are hunters. Almost all of them have a directly tied economic interest toward hunting and species going away, some are ranchers and some are land developers in one [ Indiscernible ] by selling the ability to come hunt on her own personal land during this great bear hunt. To also say not only is nonlethal air management technique more effective, the FWC had distanced themselves when those were sued over this last bear hunt their scientist testified in court that nonlethal bear management units are more effective. The bottom line is the FWC publicly stated that they are not accountable to the people Florida so we must turn to you the local government to help make our voice heard. If you have 95% of people in the restaurant that do not want smoking, there is one-5% of people that will be smoking they will have to take it outside and not do it at all. Similarly we have more effective ways to manage our bears. The future of the wildlife that belongs to all of us is in jeopardy. >>Please sum up. >>Please support this resolution. Thank you. >>Thank you very much. >>Katrina [ Indiscernible ] and after that is Jane [ Indiscernible ]. >>Hello. My name is Katrina [ Indiscernible ] I resided 995 Oklahoma Street. >>Your recognize. >>Thank you. First of all no one likes speaking after the Sorbo children maybe we can change the line up. I did not plan on speaking today but I do think it is important that the commission be publicly acknowledged for the good work that they are doing. I wrote something up for a quick and I will not even use three minutes. Thank you for letting me speak and I think you Mr. Wagner for proposing the resolution to oppose the bear hunt in Volusia County. >>I am the state committee chair and board member of [ Indiscernible ] Florida a nonprofit where there are 5000 members dedicated to the mission to preserve and protect Florida's natural resources, wildlife and land. Our committee works with municipalities all over the state. Jaclyn Lewis is our Volusia County team leader and we are here today to support her wonderful efforts in protecting our Florida bears. I think Jaclyn and the Council for your work for a beloved Florida icon and I support you in passing this resolution. As a side note I like to support any of you running for public office because if you do by chance pass a resolution today I will announce it on our webpage and I would also like to tag you in it to support any public office if you are doing that. Is anyone here running for anything? I just wanted to make sure. We do very much appreciate you taking the steps to protect the bears. Just to let you know after this we are headed to Houston because they have a bear hunt opposition on their agenda tonight and seminal County should be passing a bear hunt opposition resolution in the next 60 days. If you do passes you will be in good company and I just want to say how much we appreciate you doing this for us and the bears. >>Jane [ Indiscernible ] and up next is Mr. Greg Kimber. >>I am Jane DeRosier [ Indiscernible ]. >>Your recognize. >>I brought a picture with me today that may be familiar to you. Everyone in this room for at least this part of the room walked by this picture today right outside the store. This picture of uncle Ben shows a Florida black bear as he is and should be, free and magnificent and in a wild habitat where he can live his life as God in mother nature intended. Sometimes we think that in Florida people have their problems, this pics remind us that it is really the bears who have a people problem. They were here first. We cannot [ Indiscernible ] natural food sources, provided open buffet with garbage cans and expect them not to take advantage. Bears are smart and we need to be reasonable to live by mother nature's rules. Even Florida Fish and wildlife conservation commission admits hunting does nothing to reduce what are called human bear conflicts. What reduces conflict is people being sensible and responsible. In my neighborhood we changed our dumpster and trash cans so they are not tempting food sources. It costs little time and money but it is worth it if it saves a bears life and it is worth it because coexisting is the right thing to do. The FWC Commissioner should be taking a [ Indiscernible ] on this kind of common sense. They are political appointees who seem hostile to bears and Panthers in anything that stands in the way of the ranching and development plans. Last year the FWC folks held a bear hunt without waiting for this years of their senses to be completed. You heard what the problems were, no limit on the number of permits, kill quotas reached in two days, nursing mothers killed, young bears killed, wounded bears suffering needlessly. Regardless of how you feel bowhunting, that hunt was a fiasco. My husband and I were hunt monitors at one of the check stations. We were thankful that no bears were brought to that geographical area, but we know what it was like at the other stations. >>Statewide, nationally and internationally people horrified at the slaughter allowed by state officials. The fact is more people are opposed to the bear hunt been in favor of it. >>Local government is our way to be heard. When state officials and political appointees turn a deaf ear to the will of the people. >>I was so pleased when this Council voted to ban fracking and -- in February. I believe that shows you understand we have a two-way connection with mother Earth. What we do to her and to her creatures happens to us also. >>I urge you to join other cities and counties around Florida to show your opposition to in other bear hunt by voting for this resolution. Thank you. >>Thank you. >>Mr. Lambert. Up next is Vivian [ Indiscernible ]. >>Greg Gambert, [ Indiscernible ]. You are running a good meeting today Mr. Patterson. Thank you for considering this. What a huge turnaround since 2013. I remember in 2013 when I stood before you on in other forest issue and the consensus is it is not our place to tell the state what to do with their lands. Thank you so much for this change of course you made first with fracking and now considering this. It is absolutely your place to tell the state what to do with our lands, not their lands. You are our voice. Thank you for putting us on your table. I know it is tough because some of the points being brought out defy common sense. I'm going to ask that you supported anyway. This resolution is not a forever in perpetuity in revocable band, it is a pause. On one hand we say we're way underpopulated with bears, oh my God you're killing them all. Yet somehow in the first two days of a weeklong hunt we blow by the target by 300%. How in the heck can we kill so many bears in a short amount of time if there are so few of them? If any of you have been hunting you know it is not that easy to hunt anything unless it is a squirrel in your backyard. On the other hand the science is the science and the count is account of the fault lies with us. As they pointed out it is actions by those who come before you in other areas who have allowed more more encouragement and [ Indiscernible ] of land use what was never intended to be. We cannot unring the bell that we can hit the pause button. To the best things I heard this afternoon was Doug Daniel saying the lobbyist can open the door but you need to be there to represent your local interest. That is very apropos here. Also what this Denys said you need a seat at the table. We don't have one on this. I hoped chairman [ Indiscernible ] was here because this is applicable to him since he express reservation about this, is that you amend this ordinance item number four. Instead of directing state lobbyist to go talk about our interest you send Jason in conjunction with Ms. Lewis. Send those people to be our liaison in Tallahassee to make sure the balance for the advocates and the hunters, neither are more important than the other is recognized and the residents who are paying the price for bad decisions are off balance. The next time we have a hunt, if we have a hunt that we are not just a free-for-all pulling bears out of the national forest [ Indiscernible ] nothing to address the problems with the bears on the fringes. Thank you for this opportunity. >>Miss Dowles. >>Good afternoon. My name is Vivian Powles. I live at [ Indiscernible ] >>Those before me spoke so eloquently I really have nothing to add. As a board member [ Indiscernible ] a lot of our society you know that the Audubon has come out again. Please reinstate the ban on hunting black bears in the state of Florida. Thank you. >>The last one [ Indiscernible ] Triplett the second. >>My name is Sylvia Triplett I am at 797 dear for road. >>I came here today to speak to you about putting on the ban again on hunting the black bears. I was aghast when I did some research on it and I found as it is about one third of the bear cubs only survived every year. Out of those only about 30% get killed on the roadways. Considering the encroachment that we have made into their habitat, the least we can do is to allow them their ground so that they can prosper and cohabit with us. >>I am imploring you to please do not reinstate the hunt, please support the prohibition of hunting of the Florida black bear, it is at the top of the food chain and if it does, then it will be a domino effect, everything else will topple after it. Thank you.

>>You are speaking for the resolution or against it? >>I am speaking for. >>I will change this. You had checked against. Thank you. >>We are back to the Council. Mr. Wagner. >>Thank you. Thank you fellow council members for allowing this to be on the agenda. The reason I brought it up, I was asked a couple of questions by the media, just because it is popular, I am not running for office I have nothing to gain if anything I lose potential clients for every issue that I bring up. I would like to sit back and shut up that Joyce told me I couldn't. >>I will go ahead and make a motion to approve the resolution. >>We have a motion to approve the resolution. [ Indiscernible ] to reinstate the prohibition on hunting Florida black bear. Is there a second? >>I think Mr. Wagner got it -- I mean Mr. Daniels. Did you second it?

>>Decided. -- Yes I did. >>The reasons why, I think all of the points were well said, honestly. This is coming from someone who literally a couple days ago I closed on 13 acres out on Lake George for the specific purpose of utilizing my hunting license which I bought a lifetime hunting license for both me and my two kids who are three and five because I grew up in that environment as a kid and I wanted to have that same experience to be out in the wild, yes there will be four wheelers and reports the guns will be involved. And learning safety techniques. I can tell you there is nothing greater than being out in the wild with your kids and teaching them about guns and safety and recognizing the importance of having wildlife. At the same time some things don't need to be hunted. We go through all of this trouble, I apologize I should not call it trouble, we go through all the effort on this Council with their corridors, education, millions of dollars are spent every year on that one issue. I feel really conflicted on what the state is doing. I think we should have a greater voice. I think education is the answer, deterrent techniques, everything that was stated. There is a better way of doing it that's what it comes down to in my opinion. I am no bear expert but I have learned a lot, more than I have ever wanted to know. I know there are people out there that are smarter than me on the issue, I just hope the state recognizes maybe we should look at the other ways rather than the mass kill. Thank you.

>>Thank you. Any other comments? We have a motion resolution urging the Florida Fish while I've conservation commission to reinstate the prohibition on hunting Florida black hair. All in favor say I. All oppose say no. The eyes have it. Motion passes unanimously 6-0. >>Thank you very much. You guys must of drove your teachers crazy. >>Mr. Chair? >>Miss Cusack your recognize. >>Thank you. I was wondering if we could look into the cost for the unincorporated area and for our citizens who live in cities [ Indiscernible ] their protective garbage containers? >>Why don't we bring that up under Council time because we can talk about it then. >>Thank you. >>Item number 229A is an appointment to children's and family advisory board. It is my appointment. I will not point the gavel to Mr. Wagner because I don't want to get what he has but could you please share this for me? >>He just does not want to give the gavel up. Is there a recommendation or nomination? >>I have a nomination. I want to nominate Karen Bagley. I think she would be an excellent choice for the children and families advisory board. >>It has been recommended. We do not need a second. Anyone opposed? Passes unanimously. >>Without objection. >>I learned that from you. >>It is part of Robert's rules. Moving on. >>Mr. Patterson? I am sorry. I did not know if you skipped item 29 accidentally? >>I see it. That was an accident. We have an appointment of SunRail citizens advisory committee. Anyone can make that appointment, correct? There is one citizen, Liz Sturgeon. The requirements for serving on the board are stringent. They actually have to write the rail. Is there a nomination? >>Pardon me? Can I have a nomination? Nobody wants to nominate Liz Sturgeon >>We have a nomination of Liz Sturgeon from Mr. Wagner. Any other nominations? Any opposition?

>>We need a second on this one.

>>We have a second. This Cusack. >>It is a one year term of to three years. Any discussion? Any objection? Without objection the motion passes unanimously. >>Now we can move on.

>>We are on Council time. I do not have the order so I will start out here with Miss Denys on the far left . Do you have anything? >>No Mr. Patterson I made my comments earlier. >>Mr. Wagner -- Mr. Daniels? >>All lawyers look-alike.

>>Nothing Mr. Chair. >>We are going to stop right here. I have to public request to appear before the Council. We have Albert [ Indiscernible ] >>Shoemaker. >>Mr. Shoemaker come forward and Robert [ Indiscernible ]. >>Mr. Shoemaker? >>Yes, sir. Your recognize. I need your name and address. >>My name is Albert Shoemaker I live at [ Indiscernible ]. I am not a resident of Volusia County, I live just across the bridge so all my dealings are in Volusia County and my mail comes from their says why I have a Volusia County address. Mike granddaughters were killed in a car accident on 44 April 5. They are putting a roundabout in and we are looking to put a memorial up. We had the paperwork going through the state for DOT. I would like to request a letter from the County Council because I'm under the influence that your word means something to the DOT. Of like every bit of help that I could get for this roundabout. I understand it is going through. I know there is opposition. I believe it will go through. I think it will work and slow the traffic down. I hope this roundabout works as a pattern to show how you can control traffic without traffic lights. People still blow through traffic lights. They tried to beat that light. And you cannot do that with a roundabout. You merge in and to get out you always have to make a right-hand turn. So you never have to cross traffic at all. >>With this memorial we are planning on taking up the ignorance on the memorial ourselves. There is no money needed for that. We will maintain it and whether planting flowers or cutting the grass or whatever we will take care of that for our granddaughters. Any help you can give me will be appreciated because this is a very hard thing to do. Thank you.

>>Thank you, sir. >>Robert [ Indiscernible ].

>>Mr. Chair? I know this is out of the ordinary we do not respond to those in public participation, can we direct staff to connect with him and get a resolution of support for this Council? >>We will do that on Council time.

>>My name is Robert [ Indiscernible ] and live at [ Indiscernible ].

>>You are recognized. >>I lost my fiancée and my granddaughter and we are here to support the county if you will support us to maintain this roundabout. We do not want anything to happen to anyone else and to have to go through this. I'm just here to give my word and whatever I have to do to maintain this section after it is put in. Our understanding is we need a letter from you to recommend this to the state while they are in the process of building a roundabout. That is all. Thank you. >>Thank you, sir. >>Back on Council time. Ms. Denys you didn't have anything before. >>Just one thing. [ Indiscernible ] I'm sure he cannot hear me, Mr. [ Indiscernible ] before you leave, Mr. Lowry with the memorial on that day will you request a proclamation? I would request a population -- a proclamation from Mr. Hawken and it might be appropriate to honor the gentleman that is honoring him if Council so chooses. Mr. [ Indiscernible ]. I would like to connect with him. I think we need to honor both of these gentlemen for supporting the community. We will have an event and we will get Council if they agree elected due to proclamation one for you Mr. [ Indiscernible ] for all of your faithfulness and to honor Mr. Hawkins at the same time. >>[Indiscernible-low volume]

>> We need to get you on the microphone. If you filled out a yellow card, we have your contact information and the staff will connect with you and we will get that information and we will honor your legacy as well as Mr. Hawkins. You're welcome. I believe Councilman [ Indiscernible ] was involved with this from the beginning. I just thought it would be appropriate. >>Also I want to support the request that we had to support these gentlemen on the roundabout. Whatever we need to do let's do it. >>I think we have to look into it because it is a state road. I know that years ago they were limiting the memorials. We can make that request. Is that your motion? And the second. >>A motion and the second for a letter to DOT requesting immemorial at that location. Any opposition? Without opposition to motion passes. Thank you. >>We will get that going and see what happens. >>Mr. Daniels? You didn't have anything. >>I do not have anything before, I have been handed a letter from the city of to Barry [ Indiscernible ] on the facts stated in here seem to be seriously [ Indiscernible ] with the fact that I am aware of and I have seen documents it would substantiate and I would like to have the staff comment on that. >>I handed out the letter because we just received it. I read it and [ Indiscernible ] took place before got here. It does not jive with some of the information that I was led to believe. Probably we are going to need to have some kind of response to it. I want to make sure the Council was clear that was being sent out.

>>I appreciate you sending it out. I do think another strong response is warranted.

>>Anything else Mr. Daniels? Okay. Mr. Lowry . Nothing. Ms. Cusack ? >>Thank you Mr. Chair. I was going to see if we could ask staff to look into the cost of the garbage containers that are resistant to Barris -- to Barris -- bears and for citizens that live within the city.

>>I researched that about a year or so ago and I actually call the company that had provided a bunch of them up in the Glenwood area and they stopped making the because they were not effective and they were [ Indiscernible ]. They were running about 200, $300 apiece. >>[ Indiscernible ] seem to be effective in working in seminal County. >>Pardon me. >>They seem to be working in seminal County. >>They have a different one. I was told that solid waste had a grant and they bought a bunch. >>Could we look into that? >>That's what I was going to talk about so I will answer your question. We are looking at that. John is specifically looking at that. There are two types of grants, FWC grants are the ones we will look at, but there is also set aside funds. The reason we were encouraged to use that one is they got the money from that grant mostly from the bear hunt proceeds that I did not think was appropriate because bear hunting and then ask money from the bear hunt program. I think we need to concentrate on the FWC grants which comes from license tags on the cars and John is going to pursue that. With that we may be able to offset the cost. My understanding is the ones that work are closer to $300 a piece. We will look into it and see if we can get any grant money and come back. >>If that could be put on a list of things to do. >>Will do. >>My second concern, I wanted to speak briefly about the Springhill CRA and to give thanks to the committee that is working with the city of the land and to Mr. Denys and his staff for working on that project. I think that we are moving in the right direction, we are in a position where things will begin to turn around and I think we will be able to do some great things in the Springhill area based on the fact of the increase in revenue as it relates to that area. >>I am sure we will hear more about that as staff proceeds with their ideas in that direction. I just wanted to say thank you to them. They are hard-working, trying to do what is necessary to help us to save a community that is near and dear to me. >>That is all of my comments. >>[ Indiscernible ] regarding the Walmart grocery store and that area needing that to be added to the CRA, having a Walmart store would be a help. >>A real help to that community.

>>It has taken a while but I hope to get that all started. >>My thanks to all. >>I guess it is just me. Talking to Mr. Bailey, I had a call from a Mr. Wayne Allen at of [ Indiscernible ]. Regarding a gentleman by the name of Jesse Johnson who passed away about 10 years ago who was well known up in the [ Indiscernible ] area for working with the kids baseball and he was a coach, he was an umpire, I think he owned a small baseball team or something. There was a request to name a ball field that happens to be at [ Indiscernible ] Park after him. I asked Joyce if she would cosponsor this request with me to name a ballfield for him. You said there was a field that wasn't obligated in any way? >>Yes. Tim Baylie [ Indiscernible ]. There are a few fields that are not named for an individual that has warranted naming. There is one field that was named by County Counsel not too long ago. I did call Mr. Allen yesterday and we talked about that and it is available if you want to do that.

>>Okay. I talked to Bill Hester who knew him and said he was a first-class a one -- A1 citizen. He said he was quite a stalwart with the kids in the area. >>I would certainly be honored to be the cosponsor with that because I knew Mr. Johnson and another work that he did for the young people in that area. I went to many ballgames under his leadership. >>Doesn't take a motion for that to happen? >>Why don't you make it. >>I would move that we would perceive with naming a ballfield after Mr. Johnson in his honor in the de Leon Springs area. >>Second? Second by Mr. Wagner. Any discussion? Any debate? Any objection? Without objection the motion passes. We will have work done on that. Thank you. >>I had executive committee at [ Indiscernible ] yesterday and John Chaney had a video of a modern roundabout. With all of the people wondering and bashing and loving and hating and [ Indiscernible ] roundabout concept I was wondering if we could get that roundabout video out. The key thing about it is it is a roundabout with a huge tractor-trailer rig going around it. That is the biggest argument I get with the roundabout has to do with tractor-trailer rigs.

>>I will be glad to do that on one condition, that the state endorses it. It is a state road they are building it. I don't want to put something out to find out that is not the design they are using. As long as they say yes it's a good thing to show. >>I will get with Mr. Cheney and work on that. >>I think it is a good idea. >>Thank you. The last thing I have is last Friday everyone knew we were working on the SunRail grant. I got a call from secretary downs as she informed me the [ Indiscernible ] was not going to be sent forward by the state. They have been asked to proceed from the federal level and that was where the excitement was and everyone thought that was going to happen. There were some issues with the funding at the state level so they decided not to forward it up. I knew about it but I was asked by the secretary to hold off saying anything about it until the state came out with a story. Evidently it came out but not the way I thought it should have. It should have come out to the Council and we knew what was going on. I know in talking to Mrs. downs and [ Indiscernible ] she feels there are other avenues at the county and the state and what they can look at in funding the area. The feeling out there that it is dead or rigor mortis has set in is not true at this point. They are still working on moving forward with it. >>I know I have been working, I had a request as a member of the SunRail commission to appoint a nominee to looking at the issue when SunRail will be taken over by the commission as opposed to the state running it. There were something that disturbed me about the letter. It seemed like everyone was communicated with on this task force or when it was being put together, the problem was nobody from Volusia County was notified. They did notify Metro plan Orlando. They did not notify anyone with Botran but they did manage to get LINXsomeone with involved with the.

>>I had some discussion about the sun rail and what is going on. I have until tomorrow to come forward with a nominee and County manager and Mr. Denys and I talked about appointing him to that and seeing where goes. And on the other side telling them to drop dead and go away until we feel like we are getting treated as equals in this process.

>>I don't want to sound like a pre-Madonna, I am frustrated. I one of the biggest supporters of SunRail . >>Input from the council members. >>Mr. Daniels ? Ms. Denys and then Ms. Cusack.

Here is the larger picture and the long-term concern. This subcommittee that you are talking about -- >>It is not a subcommittee, it is going to be a nominees from each one of the commissions I have not gotten more but the way the letter reads it seems like there will be like five nominees but I think they're going to have someone from Metro plan Orlando but they have not said anything about [ Indiscernible ]. I understand that Harry Barley made a comment that he will be a member. I do not know who is nominating him. >>There is a fundamental problem. This should be represented by funding partners. Anyone outside of funding partners does not have a seat at the table. If you do not pay the bill you do not get to decide who will oversee it. This is traveling on many fronts because if we agree to it, then we are growing this is the process -- we are agreeing this is the process to take. We have veto power. We are funding partner. One thing that we have with any teeth with SunRail is the vote and the contract provision. I think it is time to look at the contract and look at contract provisions. If it is outside the contract we hold. We can't finance it and clearly are funding partners will not finance [ Indiscernible ] to a Tiger grant that has been made clear. We have not been communicated as a funding partner and the applicant [ Indiscernible ] I found out about it Tuesday night 6:00 watching TV. I called the manager said what's up with this? >>From that perspective it is clear Volusia is writing the check but we are not at the table. Even the word nominee, nominate my foot. We appoint. That is what you do when your equal partners. Council, I don't know how we go forward with this, but clearly Volusia is not at the table. If we agree to a set up like that this will be a set up to let LINX take it over and SunRail will be a funding mechanism to bail out LINX. If you look at the overlays when SunRail is doing their production and PowerPoint and they do the graph it says SunRail but then above that the overlay it with LINX and Amtrak and I forgot with the other one was. I think to myself what does this have to do with the SunRail ridership and the SunRail statistics ? It is a slow indoctrination that we except LINX . In 2021 when FDOT steps away they are preparing a exit strategy to implement LINX as the oversight organization. >>For my point, if you are not a funding partner you do not belong at the table. You do not get a say on who will oversee this. It will be an absolute disservice to Volusia County and it will give the weight to the Orlando region and further push us away from having any voice or say. You bring Metro plan in, you bring it whoever else, you are waiting the vote for Central Florida. I guess from my physician I say no. I think we need to send a letter from Volusia County stating that we are only interested in funding partners being on any type of committee with any type of say. >>Mr. Eckert, I spoke with you earlier about this, I would like to go forward in looking at contract provisions and even a timeline. I think we need to look at a timeline with SunRail when FDOT splits the last phase into phase 1 and phase 2 and what that meant. I think that was a clear train signal that funding was in trouble and Volusia was going to be on the outskirts. >>It is good to stay hopeful and we want to fund it which is the end result. The only way we get to the end result is to enforce where we are now. That is just my two cents. I will support putting an appointment, not a nominee, a equal partner at the table on any kind of committee. Mr. Paterson, I think you for stepping back when you realize what was going on, not agreeing to something that we could not stand behind or serve the citizens of Volusia County. >>I had to get the minutes, the actual audio of [ Indiscernible ] so I could see what happened at the last meeting. At the last SunRail commission meeting that I sat on there was a resolution, I was told in advance there was going to be a resolution coming forward to set up a task force. When I got that I thought about it and I called individuals back through was the mayor of transportation government related person and I told her that I had a problem with this resolution because I was getting in on Monday. We had the meeting on Wednesday with a Council meeting on Thursday and I have a problem of passing resolution without bringing it to the Council.

>>One thing that was mentioned, LINX went as far as a workshop to take a vote that we thought one path ought to be studied would be to merge SunRail and LINX together in some fashion. Volusia County of all the transportation agencies is only ones unreal. I think [ Indiscernible ] develop a consensus as we look at how we will operate the post DOT operation it will be most appropriate for the Central commission to leave that effort [ Indiscernible ]. Still, that happened at the meeting and I missed that. >>They told me that the resolution was not going to be an action item but when I got to the meeting after this conversation, it was a long conversation, the mayor asked for a [ Indiscernible ] for resolution after I told him it was not an action item. I objected and they withdrew the motion, but they made -- the mayor said we're going to continue with a task force without the resolution. That is where this came out. I still don't know who is going to be on there. That is why I am thinking the manager and I have a letter set up to go basically nominating him. I'm thinking he may want to send it down to [ Indiscernible ] and a copy to the mayor at this point where we need more information [ Indiscernible ] on the May 25 meeting. If that is okay with the Council?

>>Am sorry -- I'm sorry. >>Thank you, Mr. Chair. I feel like we have been duped. They are trying to spoonfeed us something that will in no way benefit Volusia County. And losing funding from a partner who is not really a partner because partner -- partners are on equal footing. You have to know when you have been duped. I think this is not a level playing field. It almost seems like the playing field stops at like Monroe. >>I am willing to say to them we're not sending anyone can tell we are at the table -- until we are at the table. I am a strong supporter of SunRail, I know that we have a responsibility and obligation to do what is good for Volusia County. At the end of the day they will still be expecting Volusia County to pay up. It will be to their advantage not the citizens of Volusia County. >>I am ready to tell them no. Not only no, but hell no. That is where I am. >>Any other comments? >>Just one quick comment. Going back in time when this started, you can clarify this also with Dan. You go back to in this started, I'm going by what the old Council passed, the previous counsel, which was that son rail -- SunRail would be run by the rail commission. If we hire someone to help us that is one thing. The rail commission and the funding partners would have a say. I will tell you that I have told everyone at DOT that anything that one of our elected officials are on would vote on has to be in advance, they have to know what it is and quite frankly that person has to get approval by the Council to vote on things that can affect our contract. The thing that is scary is I think -- Dan can correct me if I'm wrong, I think they take the position if we vote on something they can interpret that we changed our contract. I think being cautious at this point and clarifying this is the right thing. I think them using the word -- Mr. Paterson, I think you did the right thing. You said I am not voting on that. So they did not vote. He and I both questions the word nominate. We don't nominate someone, you appoint someone. >>I think right now as a cautionary note maybe we ought to clarify this. This is going to evolve when they start talking about adding the airport and LINX has their own issues. They have their own issues and I think you are being wise to proceed slowly. The impression that I have always had was, I have got to say that Dan and I fought with this and they have in the contract they could not do things by majority vote that are significant and it has to be unanimous. Without that we would get slaughtered. >>I will tell you I have been involved where, shall we say that was forgotten at least in one episode and we had to remind them you can do things by majority, maybe they forgot. Secondly I think proceeding cautiously, I think they need to understand that the rail commission was supposed to [ Indiscernible ] the rail. Who ever represented us, I know they know that person was posted get everything in ahead of time so they can get Council's approval for anything they were going to vote on that was significant. Mica said it can affect your contract. >>Here is the other thing, this thing goes on forever. This is not a short-term and you're out, technically there is almost no into. Being cautious is the right thing to do and maybe clarifying what solve a few things. Mr. Paterson, I applaud the fact that he had the good sense to take a deep breath and say no we are not going to do that and bring it forward to the Council. >>Just a sidebar. In that letter we are asking for clarification, I think it should come from Mr. Eckert and state specifically to the contract. We have to get very technical and have it in writing. If not, we are going to be paying a bill for connecting SunRail to OI a -- OIA and Volusia County will be a part of it because we agreed to a committee. >>You may not agree with me or not, in looking at this, I don't think there is anything in the agreement other than the fact that the SunRail commission will take it over there is nothing in there about a process, is that correct? Have you seen a process? >>No. There is no process and I think the manager accurately reflects that this is not in the agreement but the discussion leading up to the agreement was it would be necessary to hire someone to manage, but not putting it under the [ Indiscernible ] of yet another administration. >> Until -- IC -- IC I see it is a troubling premise that the commission would not operate directly. That seems to be the operating [ Indiscernible ] from the meeting Mr. Paterson which I had not heard.

LINX stands in the same role as Botran which you operate as a theater system. This is quite a turn of events. >>If I could add one thing, I do believe that one of the reasons that in the end we were somewhat comfortable that we would not be in this position is because it had to be unanimous. There wouldn't be decisions to turn it over to somebody if we did not want to. Like when you are on SunRail and SunRail is running it. If you use a contractor to implement something that is different than the contractor being between you and SunRail. That is a major difference. Here is the point, when it has to be done unanimously I think we felt that you would always be involved in deciding that, it would not be majority rule. >>That gave us some comfort that you would have in essence every community, not just us, has a veto power if they think something is not done correct.

>>If I may add, perhaps the contemplation is that LINX would be placed in an operational role, not governance role. The language that is being used creates confusion about that and you would be defining the role in links [ Indiscernible ] to the commission, not replacing it and the oversight.

>>In that regard it is like botran as far as one can tell in operating a bus system. But so does Botran. I think the contemplation was you would have a contractor that would have expertise in operating this kind of rail system and that might be a contractor. You might have contract employees, not just placing the responsibility in another body in which you are not able to spend. >>Another thing I think was the belief of a previous counsel, I never saw any scenario, I don't think the old counsel did, a scenario where anyone but the funding partners would be involved in any decision-making process. That never, ever entered the discussions and I never heard of that before. Any kind of committee or anything. The impression I had would be just the funding partners. If we want a committee we could have what but it was just the funding partners. There was never talk about having anyone outside of the funding partners weighing in as a participant and help us decide the future direction of the system. >>You think about it, the commission would be hiring somebody to run the SunRail system . In other words you would want to go out and find somebody to knew what they were doing about running. Look at McDonald transit, they do run a rail system out of the Texas area -- >>All of France. >>Yes. Harry Barley is with Metro plan [ Indiscernible ] involved heavily with the Metro rail system in Washington DC a few years ago. That was pretty much the reason he was brought down from Washington to head up the Metro plan. I have a lot of respect for Harry, still, the direction the commission -- I think I know what I will do at this point. I will be with the manager and say we need to stop this training, slow this train down and have a meeting on May 25 and discuss what is all of the ins and outs. >>Lastly, I have an email from John Booker regarding renaming of the [ Indiscernible ] station to Volusia station. They did not say no. I looked at the agreement, it said that the county would act in concurrence with the county on whether or not they are approving a. They do not have a problem with it as long as we pay all of the expenses making the name change which I don't know what that would involve. It would be all the way down the line. >>They want us to change the agreement to pay for all the stuff -- >>I am telling you we have to go back to the contract. >>We have the eagle eye of Mr. Eckert over there. >>If we did that, would we not be sending a message that that is the end of the line? What about the land. What Egan a call that station? >>The land station. >>Here is the thing. We are currently paying $77,000 a year to maintain it. I looked at the maintenance agreement that they had. It is unbelievable from what I have seen with all the requirements that are in that agreement, that place should be stick and span. Once a month have to go pressure wash the whole place. They have daily wiping down, it is incredible what the requirements are. I see Mr. Baylie shaking his head yes. Once we build the other we will be bumped up to $150,000 a year in maintenance. We do not have anybody in maintenance on this thing. Why not? When you look at one thing, if you look at an old map, going back to the early 1800s, coming down the St. Johns River, the only port where the stopping was it stopped in the community of Volusia. I figured SunRail since they are coming and we my so-called the Volusia station. I don't have a problem with it. >>If DeBary doesn't want to partner with us or [ Indiscernible ], fine. I think we should take credit for it we are maintaining it. >>What about naming rights. If you look at SunRail last PowerPoint presentation and the hits online and looking at all of this, it is a great [ Indiscernible ] let's look at naming rights because we could give somebody the right to have their name all over it. It is worth something.

>>My firm is putting in a bid.

>>$150,000. >>It would be worth it. You don't want to see my marketing budget. >>Naming rights are worth -- I am serious about this. I think we need to put a RFP out there, get some printed material and advertise the naming rights of the station. If DeBary doesn't violate the private sector well. Let's put it out for naming rights and look at what it will take to do that. >>I see Mr. Eckert gasping. >>It is not ours to do it yet but I appreciate the discussion. >>Can I suggest something? With the term all that -- turmoil that DeBary is in always hoping that we could talk to Mr. Lowry about it and maybe we could get somewhere with them as a partnership, I would really prefer to that right now we put that idea [ Indiscernible ] only in one sense. This issue with SunRail that you talked about today is so big it is millions and millions and millions of dollars into the future. Let's see if we can work something out. I think DeBary should give us some money. It will take a lot of money to maintain it. If we have to change the name, we have to change the name. Maybe Denys is right in the way to go. >>Right now in this moment of time when it comes to SunRail we should focus on the letter that was sent to this committee and this issue is a thing we should be laser focused on. This may be one of your last chances to get this straightened out. Like I told you this is not a two year contract, this is going on forever. In a sense you are a vision of the future councils. You inherited what previous councils that. -- Did. They will inherit what you do. I think it does not take a genius to realize that we really need to settle this issue and make sure we are an equal partner and figure how this will work. We are talking an enormous amount of money over 50 years, 100 years. That is a lot of money. Our relationship with them needs to be understood. >>I think this other idea is good but let's not get [ Indiscernible ] and focus on what you're doing on the committee. I know Mr. Lowry talk to me about given somebody a chance for the

>>I have Artie mentioned contacts. They have Sony things that have them sidetracked right now. We will try to see what we can get done. >>I do think Mr. Patterson has a point. I'm not saying it is not a good point but let's as try, there is so much turmoil, you saw the letter we got, that makes it more difficult to talk to them, revision is history in that letter. Let's not forget that. We should deal with it. But I would like to see what kind of letter we could send back. That letter that you read today was news to me. That is concerning . >>I can give you that. Ms. Denys was the one who got the transcript of that. That is one thing that frustrated me is when I went on the website for the commission, I could find the agenda but not the minutes of the last meeting it was unmarked second.

We will get together on that. I am not saying run it, we have the motion a place to do it. >>That is all I have.

>>I have one comment. We talk about the legacy that we leave for future councils., I want to thank the Council for taking the time being patient and giving me the opportunity, I mean this sincerely, to give me the opportunity to do the right thing on healthcare. What we have done today is enormous and I think it will affect people's lives. I think it is reasonable the healthcare that we give out. I do want to thank the Council for taking the time to allow me this much time to do it right. And I appreciate the support. >>I will tell you, this can be one of the most dysfunctional ugly things that government can deal with if they do not handle it right. If you do not believe me watch and see what happens with some of the healthcare contracts coming up. They can make our government dysfunctional. I am proud of what we did, I am proud of the work. I like the consultant that we hired. It would not work if you would not give me the opportunity to do my job and I appreciate it.

>>Thank you. >>Mr. Eckert. >>You have nothing. We have a late request for a public participation. >>You have three minutes, you know the rules. >>Thank you for allowing me to have another bite at the apple. Greg Gimbert. >>You are recognize. >>It is my responsibility to assess, -- to ask this, it was too late for us to do the right thing back in May and it is too late for us to bring the Bell, but it is not too late to do the right thing. I'm looking at four at a five council members who professed support on an issue and then change their mind. That is fair. Find. I ask you when you go home today consider a larger issue, [ Indiscernible ] made a reference in the past, what makes America great is not Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, it is our ability Mr. Lowry to adjust the scope and depth of the powers that we went people like yourselves and the circumstances under which you can use them. That is what makes America is unique is the power of all of us people to be able to adjust the playing board that you get to play on and when you get to play. That is our fundamental right. It is not easy. Regardless of how you feel about whether some things are worth selling off for a trade in jobs. The fact is the whole country was founded on the notion that something is on the level of if you elected opinions. >>It is up to us to decide when the issues out that threshold. Is not too late for you folks to do the right thing. There are five of you today to put that amended back on the ballot not because you have to but because you can't do more poorly because you ought to. That is your responsibility to us as Americans. We keep saying we want better government in Washington and in Tallahassee we are not willing to produce that better government when I'm at home. The results might not work out the way you think. >>I don't know if it was Denys or Patterson , how you handle this issue will be your legacy. Thank you for the opportunity to ask again I hope you approach Mr. Dinneen and put this back on your agenda for the next meeting. Let's get a vote, let's get over it and move on together. Everybody wants to work together with heal the wounds.

>>Thank you.

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With anything -- with that is there anything else?

With that, we are adjourned. [Event concluded]

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