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EDUCAUSE Live! Participant Chat: Links and Abbreviated Transcript

Education Innovation Clusters: Accelerating Innovation through Interdisciplinary Partnerships

August 8, 2012: 1:00 p.m. ET (UTC-4; 12:00 p.m. CT, 11:00 a.m. MT, 10:00 a.m. PT)

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Session Links:

• Office of Educational Technology:

• Edtech plan:

• / EDUCATION:

• Google Takeout:

• Open Badges:

• Connected Educators:

Abbreviated Session Chat:

Richard E Culatta: (13:02) you can also make fun of me on twitter at @OfficeOfEdTech if you like :-)

Peter - Widener U: (13:13) as Clayton Christensen said at Nacubo last week - perhaps we're measuring the wrong end of the student

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:15) How can grades be made to be a meaningful piece of

Joe Murphy (Kenyon College): (13:17) It seems, Fritz, like part of the problem is giving one "grade" for a course which may have many axes of knowledge and skills developed.

Carie Page, EDUCAUSE: (13:17) There are plenty of barriers but just pick the primary one!

Taylor Halverson (Brigham Young University): (13:17) tradition, time, resources

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:17) I put "something else" because it is a blend of these factors.

Peter - Widener U: (13:17) tenure!

R Hollingsworth Univ of KY: (13:17) legislators' mandates

David: (13:18) faculty

Nora Dimmock: (13:18) maybe the lack of collaboration- disciplinary silos

Cory P: (13:18) Red tape.

Karen W: (13:18) Paperwork -& time having to make changes within the system

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:18) See Surry and Ensminger's RIPPLES Model.

Jenny Mehmedovic: (13:18) lack of skill in collaboration

Joe Murphy (Kenyon College): (13:18) Comfort. Most education is (or is perceived as being) good enough.

Mike R: (13:18) lack of admin support

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:18) Resources, Infrastructure, People, Policies, Learning, Evaluation, and Support.

Peter - Widener U: (13:18) what if 'it' doesn't work?

DePauw University: (13:18) tradition

Carole Lohman: (13:18) In K-12 education competency based learning was a trend in the 1970's but lost favor. I find it interesting that competency based learning is making a comeback.

Clare: (13:18) Silo'd thinking and not looking to other industries for examples

Tom Jewell: (13:18) suspicion about administration motives

Cory P: (13:18) Exactly -- if a tech. lacks empirical evidence there may be reticence to adopt.

Jenny Mehmedovic: (13:19) lack of connection to the benefit that the innovation promises to provide

R Hollingsworth Univ of KY: (13:19) agree with Mike R - admin reluctance to push back against populist anger against educators

Rutt @ Eastern Mennonite Univ: (13:19) There is a wide range of responses that faculty have to innovation -- but often I sense a reluctance to quickly change what they already do.

Joseph Vaughan (Harvey Mudd): (13:19) something else: the high risk factor for students; one has a certain amount of time to teach them something, and it is hard to take risks with that time.

DePauw University: (13:20) @ Joe agreed--comfort

Jenny Mehmedovic: (13:20) often we hear faculty say "do you want me to do my job, or that innovative thing you're talking about" they seem them as conflicting

R Hollingsworth Univ of KY: (13:20) we can't assume faculty are "comfortable" with status quo

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:21) 'Innovation' of ed. tech. does not take place solely among faculty. They do it, for sure, but it also takes place in IT departments and in Libraries.

Joe Murphy (Kenyon College): (13:21) @Hollingsworth - go further. We can't assume "faculty" are a homogenous body with one opinion!

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:25) Exactly, Richard. There's no cross-talk between ASHE (Assoc. for the Study of Higher Ed.) and Educause, at the moment.

R Hollingsworth Univ of KY: (13:25) .... and how many faculty from the academic disciplines attended either of those conferences?

Jenny Mehmedovic: (13:26) more silos, even at the national association level

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:27) ADDIE has gone feral...

Karen W: (13:29) I'm working with 2 coworkers to do an interdisciplinary project (group teaching & projects for 4 weeks or 1/4 of the semester. It's a mix of English, History, & Business Leadership. Do you have any research or ideas for something like this?

R Hollingsworth Univ of KY: (13:31) awesome @Karen W! liberal arts faculty so rarely have opps to be funded for innovative projects

Steven McIntosh: (13:31) Any thoughts on how to link sponsored research to teaching and technology at the system level in public HE?

Taylor Halverson (Brigham Young University): (13:32) I echo S. McIntosh's question

Mike R: (13:32) How critical is physical location in creating clusters? Are there "virtual" clusters or partnerships that have been successful.

Ric: (13:32) Did you look at any international models that have tighter relationship between educational institutions and entrepreneurs

R Hollingsworth Univ of KY: (13:32) How can we include public communities' voices in these regional innovation clusters - so they are not just "ivory tower" hangouts?

Karen W: (13:35) @R. Hollinsworth - YES. We've been working together for a year and it should go live in spring 2013. It is virtual (we all teach online), so our courses will all cross for those 4 weeks so students are receiving an a true interdisciplinary experience.

Susie Henderson, EDUCAUSE: (13:39) Learning registry is a great idea, especially if it includes common core for K12 or competencies for postsecondary ed.

Carole Lohman: (13:40) How does copyright work with the Learning Registry?

Carole Lohman: (13:44) What are the potential privacy implications with something like MyData?

Jessica Green: (13:49) A question if you can get to it: when (or will) accrediting bodies feel pressure to support initiatives to concepts like competency-based learning and open badges?

Jenny Mehmedovic: (13:50) @Jessica, great question

Jessica Green: (13:51) Thanks, Jenny. I sure hope he can get to it.

Jarret Cummings, EDUCAUSE: (13:51) On MyData: Does the potential availability of this option heighten the concerns around authentication and identity verification?

Karen W: (13:54) That would be great! I have military students who are field doctors & nurses, yet they do not receive any credit for their skills & training. They start from 0.

Fritz Vandover - Macalester College: (13:55) Along the lines of Jessica's question, what are the other kinds of tipping points in higher ed that will propel these kinds of initatives? Changes in tenure and promotion? Accreditation changes? A collapse in demand for traditional higher ed because of the increasing sticker price?

Jarret Cummings, EDUCAUSE: (13:56) Remember that with accreditation "they" are "us"--or at least other members of the higher education community than the core spaces of many of the webinar participants.

Carole Lohman: (13:59) Who pays for all the "free" courses and certification processes?

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