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Overview On March 7, 2017 the Microsoft Tech Community hosted a Yammer and Office 365 Groups AMA. The live hour of Q&A provided members the opportunity to ask questions and voice feedback with the product team. We hope you join us live next time! Resources Yammer and Office 365 GroupsEnforce Office 365 identity for Yammer usersYammer Service Updates Yammer GroupYammer Group in the Microsoft Tech CommunityTopicsIntroductionGeneral DiscussionRoadmapThat's a wrap!IntroductionWelcome to the Yammer and Office 365 Groups Ask Microsoft Anything! View the list of introductions in this thread.General DiscussionQ: We have O365 Group creation enabled for select individuals. When those individuals who are able to create O365 Groups create a Yammer group, will those Yammer groups and O365 Group be connected? (thread)A: Yes!Q: Do you need to have 'flexternal' messaging turned on in order to invite external guests to O365 groups enabled Yammer groups? Or do the O365 Groups Admin settings control access? (thread)A: We don't currently support 'flexternal' groups at this time for our first release of this Groups feature.Q: Will already existing O365 Groups get the option to enable Yammer workload for their Group? (thread)A: Unfortunately, we currently do not support enabling Yammer for O365 groups since this will fragment conversations that are already happening in OWA. We will however backfill your existing Yammer groups to get the connected group experience. More information about this feature here:: When will live previews from SharePoint show up in Yammer instead of the generic icon? (thread)A: This is something we have on our backlog as top priority for improving integration with SharePoint. We don't have an ETA at this time, though.Q: Will the planned Skype integration replace the newly rolled out Direct Messaging improvements? (thread)A: It won't replace the new experience but will supplement it. So you'll get things like presence in Yammer. And eventually be able to click to call and escalate conversations to chat. We are probably going to this on mobile first, with an integration with the Skype for Business app.Q: Do you have some best practices to suggest or some use cases to which I can refer so I can best take advantage of this new functionality in which new Yammer groups create Office 365 Groups? (thread)A: Encourage people to start using the connected document library to store documents. For experienced Yammer users, documents attached to conversations are convenient. However, by uploading to a document library, you can copy the link into a conversation and benefit from all the SharePoint document capabilities.Q: Will Yammer feeds be available in the Tab section on Teams? (thread)A: Yammer will be available as a connector in Teams, but at this time is not an individual tab or channel.Q: What do we do about Yammer Groups that don't need the other workloads? Will we have the ability to turn off and turn on workloads for an Yammer-based O365 Group?(thread)A: New groups will have all the workloads provisioned automatically. There isn't a way to control which are provisioned. So yes, it's overprovisioning for some use cases as you mentioned, but it's also reflective of how a group's needs can change over time.Q: What will the user experience change be like in the new groups? Any suggestions on how we ready our user community? Are there materials documenting the benefits and functionality of the change in groups? (thread)A: Please take a look at the blog post for a screenshot. The only change that users see is the resources section on the right- hand side.?From a user management process, I think having a post on the new functionality would be great from a community perspective. Letting folks know that they now get these new cool useful functions might be helpful so they can make good choices for their projects and teams. There will be some new videos and materials coming out more generally for Yammer also.Q: It was recently announced that community managers (group admins) would get the chance to use Customer Reporting Dashboards. Can we get a bit more detail about what this would entail? How would the group admin access it? What information would it show? (thread)A: We don't have anything we can share publicly just yet, but there is an active project to improve the customer reporting dashboards in Yammer. We're taking deep consideration into what Community Managers want/need. Our updates will likely come in the form of updates that will be available via the Office 365 Admin Reporting console and also within Yammer itself. We will announce more when we can.Q: Will Yammer read statistics appear in the user interface, i.e. a user can see how many views/impressions their post has received? (thread)A: It is an idea we are considering, but there are no current plans to do this in the future.Q: What if users who access Yammer connected O365 don't have their SharePoint license enabled? Will they be able to access all files? Will we be out of compliance since their SPO license is not enabled? (thread)A: if the users accessing a Yammer group don't have a SharePoint license, they won't be able to access the files stored in SharePoint document library. Yammer doesn't do anything special about SharePoint licenses, so we will rely on the existing behavior SharePoint provides.?Q: We currently have enabled Office 365 to be created only by a select group of people.?What will happen after the integration? Will only those selected users create Yammer groups integrated with Groups, while other users will create only 'standard' Yammer group? (thread)A: Yes, that’s correct, and we call the ‘standard’ Yammer groups “not connected.”?Q: For new Yammer groups integrated with Office 365 groups, there will be two places for storing Files and Notes. One is Yammer container (as in current Yammer groups) and the other is Office 365 Groups Files and Notes stored on SharePoint.?When can we expect to have only one place to store files and notes? Having two places can be very confusing for users. (thread)A: We recommend that you move towards using SharePoint and OneNote if you have an Office 365 connected group. Since we are still rolling out connected groups over waves, it will be some time before we move away from Yammer Files and Notes, but they do help with quick, unstructured ways to share documents and notes. For example, sharing a picture quickly stores it in the Yammer file tab.Q: I understand that Groups are to be used either with Outlook or with Yammer. Organizations have to opt for one approach or the other. If that's so, why is this an either/or scenario? Why can't Groups work across both Outlook and Yammer for organizations? (thread)A: Organizations can use both Outlook and Yammer, but Groups choose Outlook or Yammer for their conversations so as not to fragment conversations across different apps. Outlook Groups is like mail / email - you address recipients and send the message, and each reply can be re-addressed. ?Yammer is more like messages on the wall: ?available to any who come to read them. ?There's no clean way to bridge that divide. ?The addressing concept has to be defined at the time of content creation.Q: Just to clarify, Groups that have been previously created in 365 will not show in Yammer, but Yammer groups that are created now will show in 365.?(thread)A: Correct. Previously created groups use Outlook as their conversation type so those groups will not appear in Yammer. O365 Connected Yammer groups will show up in SharePoint, Admin Center and other places around the suite, but not in Outlook.Q: What are the plans to include the Yammer workloads in the Data Loss Prevention policies? (thread)A: Now with connected groups, as people are saving documents to the connected doc library, you'll take advantage of DLP as its configured for your SharePoint environment. That would be a good practice to start getting your company doing today. Down the road, we want to get out of the file storage game in Yammer. The plan is to reconcile the file space in Yammer with the doc library. For now, we recommend people start using the doc library for documents and use Yammer to upload pictures, videos, etc. because they render nicely in the feed.Q: What will be the maximum number of members for a Yammer group integrated with O365 group? And what if we will create MS Teams on top of such group? There is a limitation to 600 members. (thread)A: There is no theoretical max for the number of users in a group. We say 1,000+ in all our groups support documentation. Anecdotally, we have seen groups with hundreds of thousands of users! Teams currently has a limit of 600 people. After 600 people, Teams will stop sync'ing new group members.?Q: What will the new Yammer Desktop App look like? (thread)A: Essentially, it'll look just like the web experience. The Desktop App will serve as a wrapper much like the Teams desktop app functions.Q: A couple of questions related to timing. First, do you have any details to share about the timing? Second, when will it impact our tenant? (thread)A: It should be live in your tenant right now. You need to make sure that you have only one domain in your tenant, and that you have configured your network with Office 365 Identity Enforced - Committed.Q: A couple of questions related to timing. First, do you have any details to share about the timing? Second, when will it impact our tenant? (thread)A: It should be live in your tenant right now. You need to make sure that you have only one domain in your tenant, and that you have configured your network with Office 365 Identity Enforced - Committed.Q: What if I need more than one Yammer group for my O365 group? Did I understand correctly that this would not be possible anymore?? We are using groups for a program organization?with several projects and streams. We want to have a central place for all our documents, so we are using only one O365 Group (SharePoint Site). However for the discussions in Yammer, we want to have individual groups for each project or also cross project topics.? In the new setting, I would get a new O365 group for each new Yammer group. However, this is very confusing for the users, as new groups (and SharePoint Sites) will be popping up for each new communication channel. (thread)A: We built this feature to have a 1:1 mapping for a Yammer Group to an Office 365 group. Our primary use case was to have the group and the related content have similar membership and permissions model to make the management of the group and the content easier. We will take your use case into account for the next iteration of this feature and see if we can address this in a way that doesn't confuse our users.Q: I'm wondering if?there any resources out there that can help provide more prescriptive guidance on conversations. Coming from an organization that is very conservative, people have actually asked me for a playbook of different conversation scenarios and the tools that would best fit their needs. (thread)A: Our marketing team is working on building out resources to help enable Yammer adoption and explain how/why to use Yammer. Here is some guidance that can help steer you. Email: mail and calendar (mail may be a group's preferred way of conversing), Skype: voice and video meetings, Yammer: open and great for connecting across the org, Teams: real-time hub for teams who converse with each other most of the time. Group is the service that is horizontally connected across Email, Yammer and Teams. Steve Nguyen also wrote a great article "Among Email and Microsoft Teams, Yammer Still Has Its Place." Q: Will we have an enterprise archive and backup system for Yammer? (thread)A: Yammer offers a data export for this.?Documentation is here.Q: We're looking to replace our aging intranet with a more modern, enterprise social experience. Would Yammer be a good candidate? (thread)A: Yammer certainly is a capable social platform. I'd start with your strategic objectives for social. Yammer could be a very strong part of an open enterprise collaboration strategy. ?First asking "What problem are you trying to solve and how can Yammer help?" Yammer is a piece of the puzzle. The Yammer connected Office 365 Groups will provide each new group with a SharePoint team site, which could be used to build a loosely connected intranet. If you're looking for a more formal intranet structure, you could embed an associated Yammer group to provide the conversation platform. If the Yammer groups are created as public, others will be able to join the conversation from across the organization.Q: What are the security impacts and/or changes in the move to the new groups in Yammer? What are AAD relationships to Yammer groups in this change? Will these be reflected as Office 365 Groups (as in Outlook groups)? What is the impact if a group name exists in Outlook Groups, email distribution list, teams or other location? Is this blocked since this impacts only new groups? (thread)A: O365 Connected Yammer groups will have a group object created in AAD, just like all other O365 Groups.?AAD does not enforce unique group display names, however, in Yammer we still want groups to have distinct names to make it easier to find the groups you're looking for. Unique names are enforced in Yammer. O365 Connected Yammer groups are created from within Yammer, so to create a group, the name of the group must be unique within Yammer. When we publish that group to O365, if there's another group with the same name within AAD that will be OK because AAD allows duplicate names.Q: What will happen if we have already provisioned SharePoint sites collections that have the same name as new group that a user tries to provision? (thread)A: These are both topics that are still being determined. Follow Office 365 Groups: naming policy in Azure Active Directory for more info. AAD allows for duplicate group display names, so you'll have a group and a SP site collection with the same display name.Q: What can you do in a Yammer discussion that you can't do in a Group discussion? (thread)A: At the core, Yammer remains the place where people within an organization has the ability to connect, share, and discover people and information across their organization. Yammer allows you to discover information in ways that email based conversations don't allow (or are not easy to find). The content of the messages in Yammer or in Outlook/email are certainly similar. It's the context of the two messages that are different. Q: I see Office 365 Group integration in the Admin section, but new Groups are not being created. (thread)A: It could be your configuration. Also when you say you see it in the Admin section, be sure that you have Enforce Office 365 sign-in and it’s in a Committed state. See more info here. Make sure that you don't have other domains pending to be merged into your canonical network. Currently only 1-to-1 yammer network to O365 tenant is supported. Go to your Network Admin section > Network Migration > Next and ensure there are no outstanding domains to migrate. Also, when you create a new group (if everything is in order), navigate away from the group then back into it. This should trigger the provisioning of all the O365 resources and you should see the O365 pane on the right-hand side.RoadmapQ: Why is it not possible from SharePoint Home and from Azure to choose Yammer as the conversational mode in a Connected Group, instead of Outlook? (thread)A: We agree this should be a choice from SharePoint and the O365 Admin Portal. This is on our roadmap.Q: With Yammer groups linked to O365 Groups, will the new naming convention policies on O365 Groups also be automatically respected when someone creates a Yammer group? And what about other things you may have enabled like a usage guide for O365 Groups and classification levels? Will Yammer eventually match group classification levels, not just private/public? (thread)A: We have this on our roadmap and will be looking to add this support in the near future. Group data classification is also on our roadmap and we are working on delivering support for this soon!Q: When will SharePoint live previews show in Yammer? (thread)A: Richer previews for SharePoint docs is on our roadmap! This is one of the top items in our list for deeper integration with SharePoint.Q: Will Yammer start embedding Office 365 Video/Stream videos so that they can play directly from Yammer? (thread)A: We are actively looking into this integration. Stay tuned!Q: When will Yammer activity show up in Delve? (thread)A: We see this as something we would want to support and is on our long-term roadmap.Q: Will there be a 'Create Yammer Group from existing Outlook Group' like there is with Teams? (thread)A: Yes. That's in a coming wave of updates. This first wave offers Yammer connected Office 365 Groups for net-new Yammer groups.Q: Will there be a way to manually 'move'/upgrade an existing Yammer Group to the new O365 Group? (thread)A: We are going to work in the near future to backfill groups. Stay tuned!Q: Our organization has a concern that if Yammer groups link up to Office 365 Groups and people organically create then ignore groups, how can you clean them up easily? Are there any tools shipping as part of this change to allow admins to helicopter view inactive groups in both Office 365 and Yammer? (thread)A: Admin tools for group management or archive are something we are looking into but don't have something on our immediate roadmap at this time. You'll continue to be able to use management tools such as Data Export and others to monitor.Q: With the release of Microsoft Teams, what’s the future road map for Yammer? Will Yammer and Teams be consolidated into a single product or will Yammer be depreciated, as the products offer very similar functionality? (thread)A: Yammer and Microsoft Teams are targeting different user scenarios. Microsoft Teams is for instant chat for a smaller set of people and Yammer is for a async, border audience. Microsoft is continually investing in Yammer and we encourage you to keep up with our updates on major product releases by following Tech Community. We recently announced that we're working on a Desktop App and the Office 365 Groups integration was a major milestone in building out Yammer capabilities. We welcome Teams as the real-time chat-based workspace for teams. Both products are very valuable and represent different strengths. The goal is to deliver choice, flexibility and all the products in Office 365 are stronger together.?Q: What are the plans to include Yammer activity in records retention and/or legal hold processes? (thread)A: It's definitely being worked on with the aim to maximize integration and leverage existing tooling as much as possible with Office 365 Admin - look for updates later on in the year.Q: In the blog post, it says that, "Through Office 365 Groups integration, Office 365 administrators will soon be able to use query-based group membership in Yammer based on Azure Active Directory attributes such as role, location and manager. This will ensure that certain groups based on organizational structure dynamically include the right members." What does this mean? That it will be possible to manage membership in Yammer groups through membership in Office 365 Groups, and that membership in Office 365 Groups can be automatic based on AAD attributes? (thread)A: We are currently adding support in Yammer Groups that are connected to Office to support 'Dynamic groups'. Our wonderful developers are hard at work to deliver this feature!Q: With this new integration with O365 groups, will users be able to use the calendar for their group and have it update as a post out on their Yammer group page? (thread)A: Adding support to calendar is currently on our roadmap, but we do not have a timeline for when this will get delivered.Q: When will the Yammer PowerBI Content Packs be ready and what kind of information will they include? (thread)A: Great question. This should be available by the end of the month.Q: What, if any, are the plans for providing PowerShell support for Yammer workloads? (thread)A: Currently, we don't have plans to provide PowerShell support for Yammer.?I would suggest to use Yammer public APIs as an alternative. You'll be able to use PowerShell to manage O365 Connected Yammer groups.Q: Is better integration between SharePoint and Yammer on the roadmap, especially Yammer embed in SharePoint? (thread)A: Thanks for the feedback. We are looking at different ways of integrating between SharePoint and Yammer to provide a more richer experience, and Yammer embed in SharePoint is definitely one of the options.Q: Any chance searches made in Yammer will surface items from its connected group? (thread)A: This is definitely on our roadmap, but it would be a longer-term goal.Q: When can we use Yammer with Office 365 Group features in our "old" Yammer tenants? (thread)A: Our goal is to have all Yammer groups connected to Office 365 Groups. That said, accomplishing will take a while for 1:many tenant setups like what you describe. It's something we want to do, but will be some time away.Q: Will Yammer connected Office 365 Groups ever integrate with Microsoft teams? Right now, it seems that Microsoft teams only integrates with Office 365 Groups that use Outlook conversations. (thread)A: There will be a connector for Yammer. At this time Teams will not have Yammer as an individual channel or tab in Teams, but please engage with the Teams Tech Community for future roadmap.Q: What is the Yammer roadmap looking like, post MS Ignite Australia? What are the big things that are close to fruition? How about the editing of Yammer posts or desktop Yammer apps for example??Bonus question, do you get fed up when some people doubt Microsoft's commitment to Yammer (the 'yammer is dying' brigade)? (thread)A: We rolled out our integration with Office 365 Groups last week, so that's available now. Edit Post is currently rolled out to some select Preview customers. This will aid in some additional bug smashing, and hope that we have this rolled out broadly by some time end of the month.?Development of desktop app is underway and should be ready in a few months.?We're also testing a new Group Header treatment that you might see in your network.?BONUS ANSWER: Helping people understand the impact Yammer can have on an organization certainly takes patience.That’s a wrap!Thank you for joining us and voicing your questions and feedback during this fun and action-packed hour!?For ongoing updates, please join the?Yammer Service Updates Yammer Group, and continue the conversation in the?Yammer Group in the Microsoft Tech Community.?Additional Resources:?Yammer and Office 365 Groups??Enforce Office 365 identity for Yammer users?See you next time!? ................
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