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[Pages:18]GREEN CHEROKEE DESCENDANTS READ THIS! Posted by: William Scott Anderson Date: November 12, 2000 at 23:37:23
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Please share with with your cousins. This is probably gonna be a "breaththough" if you just "know" you are Cherokee or Powhatan.
I think most of you will find you descend, from Pocahontas and Powhatan is you go to or check the surname list at the bottom of this message.
I am Scott Anderson. I know a lot about the Cherokee history of the Isom Franklin / GardnerGreen family group, as the Dawes Commission called them. I left the white way of life to live as a Cherokee, on ancestral lands in southern Missouri some time back. I knew a regathering of the family was coming as, grandfather Gardner visited me in a dream in 1983.
This is a very propicious moment, as the various "Western Cherokee" bands of today may be federally recognized soon, but many of the political aspirations of some of their leaders will simply not realized. There will be many surprises and some disappointments. It is time to get enrolled if you are not already!
The senior Tribe in MO is the Amonsoquath Tribe of Cherokee. They arrived permanently in MO/AR in 1652. See fr more info and see where it says: Albert James Pickett: HISTORY OF ALABAMA. (Kindly contributed by William C. Bell)
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CHAPTER VI.
THE CHEROKEES.
1540: It has been seen that De Soto passed over a portion of the country of these Indians in the territory which embraces Northern Georgia. The name Cherokee is derived from Chera, fire; and the Prophets of this nation were called Cherataghe, men of divine fire.
The first that we hear of the Cherokees, after the Spanish invasion, is their connection with the early British settlers of Virginia. A powerful and extensive nation, they even had settlements upon the Appomattox river, and were allied by blood with the Powhattan tribe. 1623: The Virginians [ENGLISHMEN] drove them from that place, and they retreated to the head of the Holston river. Here, making temporary settlements, the Northern Indians compelled them to retire to the Little Tennessee river, where they established themselves permanently. About the same time, a large branch of the Cherokees came from the territory of South Carolina, near Charleston, and formed towns upon the main Tennessee, extending as far as the Muscle Shoals. [editor's note: These were lower, or "Chickamauga" Cherokees] They found all that region unoccupied, except upon the Cumberland, where resided a roving
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band of Shawnees. But the whole country bore evidence of once having sustained a large Indian population.
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The Amonsoquath, or BEAR CLAN shared the Spanish landgrant landbase for all the other Chickamauga Cherokees who arrived in MO AND AR 1792 and 1817 and after. Many artifacts, coins, and burial sites have been found on our private reservation in Missouri
I suggest you get an application, even if incomlete, in right away, as once the rolls are closed it may be many years before you may be allowed to enroll, if ever.
NO, if you enroll, you wont lose your children, or homes, or any thing like that. There are lots of silly "rumors" going around about federal recognition. The exact opposite is true.
Gardner Green probably should not be characterized as an "Eastern" Cherokee. He would dislike, I believe, the inference, and once you understand the ins-and-outs of the period, you would understand what I mean.
The Oconoluftees or part of what later became known as "Eastern Band" were forced to sell out and hunt down the followers of Tsali... a remnant of the Cherokees who HAD to walk the trail of tears, but Tsalis people escaped to the caves... because they had no individual reservation agreement with the US Gov.
The Oconluftees had left the Cherokee Nation and took mile square reservations in 1817, and help hunt down the "Tsalis" or the ones who hid in the caves - in order to keep their lands. Together, they were allowed to say in NC under a provision of the hated 1835 "Treaty of New Echota."
They are looked down on by the Tahlequah, OK bunch. There seems to be a lot of "looking down" on Cherokees down by Cherokees.
Gardner died in the East before the "Eastern" Band was even federally-recognized... about 1844..
He was "Ani Waya" or Wolf Clan. He descended from "King" Powhatan and Matoaka, (or Pocahontas) the Bear Clan People. see
The Amonsoquath are Chickamauga (traditionals), and many Chickamauga are Amonsoquath. You are Amonsoquath if you descend from Powhatan.
So, Sarah/Sary was Gardner Green's other daughter, and my GGGGreat Grandmother Elizabeth's sister. The male line is well documented, but not the females that come down from him. He may have had 4 different wives... at the same time!
Gardner Green (Red Wolf) fought beside Dragging Canoe, Tecumseh's Cherokee Grandfather (that's correct - was raised by Dragging when his Shawnee faher was killed by the whites) in the 40 years war, and was more properly a Chickamauga Cherokee.
Later, Gardner was in fact an "Old Settler" or traditionalist "Keetowah" and, under US Treaty law, would have been referred to as "Western Cherokee." See treaties of 1817, 1828, and 1833.
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His sons, in his list below, became chiefs of the Northern faction of "Western Cherokees" who these groups claim as their traditional Chief lineage: Tribal Chiefs Attakullakulla (Little Carpenter) - b. 1700 d. 1780 Omitositah (Old Tassle) - d. 1788 Hanging Maw - d. 1795 Little Turkey Doublehead - d. 1807 Dragging Canoe - b. 1731 d. March 1, 1792 John Watts (Young Tassle) - b. 1750 d. 1803 1/2 English, 1/2 Cherokee Elected chief in 1792 following the death of Dragging Canoe. John Bowl (Duwali - The Bowl) - b. 1756 d.July 16, 1839 Became chief around 1817. Band went to Texas. Killed in Texas. Benjamin Franklin Green Became chief June 24, 1831. James Green (son of Benjamin) - d. 1866 Chief until his death. Levi Adams Tribal leader from 1866 to 1900. John Harvey Neal (grandson of James) Chief from 1900 until 1939. Everett Jesse Harris Chief from 1940 to 1981. David Quentin Chief from 1981 to August 1984. Beverly Baker Chief from August 1984 to 1990. Elva Beltz Chief from 1990 to 1991.
TRIBE SPLIT into three tribes.
1. Northern Cherokee Nation of MO and AR
2. Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old LA Territory
3. Sac River and White River Bands of the Chickamauga Cherokee Nation
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I have the 1896 Dawes Cherokee enrollment rejection for the Stouts who descend from Isom Franklin and Gardner Green(Gardner and Isom owned land adjoining)
They were rejected from the Cherokee Nation rolls because the Cherokee Nation did NOT enroll the Chickamaugas, who had seceded in 1777. They were true Cherokee Patriots wh had seceded from "sellouts." WE ARE NOT ET CONQUERED" is our battle cry to this day and we ae the last Indian Tribe in the U.S. to not give on to "federal recognition" but it is coming, I am afraid...
...but the Tahlequah bUnch or the Esatern Band will NEVER accept you as being Cherokee National Citizens. President Clinton is a Cherokee and promised long ago to help. Please Pray he does for the sake of your poor relatives in the Ozarks. Life is very tough here. We need econmic development that federal recognition would bring. There will be NO GAMBLING! PERIOD!
GARDNER GREEN apparantly repatriated to the Ross Faction (being a fullblood) for a short time, and served (according to the family) as a sub-chief during thr Dahlonega gold rush days. Thay MAY mean he was on the "Chief's Council" under John Ross, and the the 1827 Constitution, a part of the Executive Branch which was elected yearly by the National Council and National Committee.
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Dawes Commission Notes Subject: Guion Miller Report - The Greens in Missouri and Arkansas
Note: Words that are in all Capital letters were Capitalized by me and
do not appear that way in the original report!
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In the book Cherokee Roots by Bob Blankenship, he states that there were Cherokee Indians that moved to Missouri by the 1790s possibly because there was some Cherokees already living in Missouri before that time, Most of them, according to the book, later moved to Arkansas because of the earthquakes and floods in Missouri.
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From the book Guion Miller Rolls Plus by Bob Blankenship in the Introduction it states that " A US Court of Claims decision on May 18, 1905, resulted in members of the Eastern Cherokee living either East or West of the Mississippi, not including Old Settlers, to be entitled to participate in a monetary award by the Court for various treaty violations. ... Section two contains those Cherokee not accepted for various reasons. Reasons for rejection include items such as: was Old Settler, shows no connection to Eastern Cherokee, enrolled as Choctaw, application too late, etc."...
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In the same book mentioned above on the 2nd page entitled Roll of Eastern Cherokee Entitled to Participate in the Fund Arising fom the Judgement of the Court of Claims of May 28, 1906 as reported by Guion Miller, Special Commisioner, May 28, 1909.
In the Introduction it states..."In 1906, Mr. Miller was appointed by the US Court of Claims to determine who was eligible for funds under the treaties of 1835-36 and 1845 between the US and Eastern Cherokee"..."In certifying the eligibility of the Cherokees, Mr. Miller used earlier census lists and rolls that have been made of the Cherokee by Hester, Chapman, Drennen and others between 1835 and 1884."...
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Miller Report Document # 5145 William Neal states..." It SEEMS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY (emphasis ours) that the Gardner Green on the roll of 1835 was the same person who is claimed as the ancestor of applicant herein, as applicants' ancestors was between 95 and 115 years old in 1833, according to the testimony, affidavits etc, and had a son Benjamin Green who was 74 or 75 in 1835, and grandchildren as old as 47, and a great grandchild born in 1808. The Gardner Green on the 1835 Roll was enrolled with a male under 18 who was probably his child, although that is only SUPPOSITION (emphasis ours), it being IMPOSSIBLE (emphasis ours) to ascertain from the roll, the relationship of persons in any one family group."......"From the above it appears that Benjamin Green and his sons, John, James and Issac and his daughter Dicey Boyd were living in Kentucky and Missouri long prior to 1835-that they had left the Eastern Cherokee Tribe, if they ever belonged to it, long prior to the treaty of 1835-6 and if Cherokees at all, should be classed as OLD SETTLERS. (emphasis ours)
Even conceding that the Gardner Green on the roll of 1835 is the same person who is claimed as the ancestor of applicants herein they would not be entitled, because Benjamin Green and his children who were the ancestors of these applicants and through whom they claimed were all heads of families in 1835 and if living as far off as Missouri and Kentucky could not have been considered members of the tribe at that time.
Dicey Boyd was born in Kentucky in 1808 showing, that Benjamin son of Gardner was living in Kentucky as early as that date, which was hundreds of miles from the Eastern Cherokee Domain.
From Kentucky, Benjamin and his sons and daughter and their families moved to Missouri so that if they ever lived with and were members of the Eastern Cherokee Tribe, they left it at least prior to 1808 and never lived or had any connection with it again.
Wherefore in consideration of the premises, the claim of all persons claiming through Gardner Green and
the latter's sons and daughters are hereby rejected."
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surname list
ABBOTT, ABERNATHY, ABSTON, ADAIR, ADAMS, ALCERS, ALEXANDER, ALLEN, ALLISON, ALTON, AMES, ANDERSON, ANDING, ANGELA, ANGLIN, ANTHONY, ARD, ARMISTEAD, ARMS,
ARMSTRONG, ARNOLD, ARON, ASBERRY, ASHER, ASMUS, ASTON, ATKINS, AUSMAN,
AUSTIN, AVERY
B., BAILEY, BAKER, BALDWIN, BALL, BANNISTER, BARBARA, BARBAREE, BARBER, BARBOLA, BARLOW, BARNES, BARNETT, BASDEN, BASKIN, BATES, BATTLE, BAXTER, BEASLEY, BEATTY, BEATY, BEDFORD, BEDGOOD, BEEMAN, BEGA, BEHLER, BELSHI, BENGE, BENNETT, BENZEL, BENZIL, BERG, BERGEMAN, BERND, BERRY, BETTY, BEVILL, BICKERS, BIGHAM, BILLINGS, BISHOP, BISSETT, BJOURNSTED, BLACK, BLACKBURN, BLACKMAN, BLACKMORE, BLACKWELL, BLAIR, BLAKE, BLANDFORD, BLANKENSHIP, BLAYLOCK, BLEDSAW, BLESSING, BLOCK, BLUE, BLYTH, BOBO, BOELDT, BOLING, BOND, BONDS, BONDURANT, BONNIE, BOOKER, BOONE, BORCHARDT, BORMAN, BOSSERMAN, BOST, BOSWORTH, BOTTS, BOURLAND, BOWERS, BOWLES, BOY, BOYD, BOYER, BRACEWELL, BRADSHAW, BRAMLETT, BRAMLITT, BRANDT, BRANNON, BRANSON, BRANTON, BRAY, BRAZZEAL, BREEDLOVE, BREWER, BRIGHT, BRISTO, BRITT, BROOK, BROOKS, BROSCH, BROUGH, BROWING, BROWN, BROWNING, BRUCE, BRYANT, BRYSON, BUCHANAN, BUCKLES, BUETTNEW, BULLARD, BUNCH, BUNDRANT, BUNG, BUNGE, BURCHELLE, BURCHFIELD, BURGE, BURKHEAD, BURNETT, BURNS, BURT, BURTON, BUSE, BUSH, BUTLER, BUTT, BUTTS, BUXTON, BYRD
CABLE, CALDWELL, CALHOUN, CALLOWAY, CALVERT, CAMERON, CAMP, CAMPBELL,
CANTER,
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CARLILE, CARLYLE, CARMACK, CARNELL, CAROL, CARPENTER, CARR, CARROLL,
CARROWAY, CARSON, CARTER, CARWYLE, CASEY, CASSITY, CASTLE, CASTO, CATES,
CATHCART, CATOR, CAUTHEN, CECELIA, CHANCY, CHANEY, CHAPIN, CHAPMAN, CHAPPELL,
CHARLOTTE, CHARMAINE, CHASE, CHASTEEN, CHAUFTY, CHENAULT, CHERRY, CHESTNUTT,
CHEWNING, CHICKERING, CHIPSTEAD, CHISM, CHRISTA, CHRISTOPHER, CLAIBORNE,
CLARK, CLARKE, CLAY, CLAYTON, CLAYTOR, CLEVELAND, CLOWERS, COBBLE, COBLE,
COCHRAN, COFFEE, COHEE, COLE, COLEMAN, COLHOUN, COLLINS, COLLUMS, COLQUHOUN,
COLVETT, COMBS, COMER, CONE, CONLEE, CONLEY, CONRITH, COOK, COOPER, COPELAND,
CORBETT, CORDES, CORN, COSGROVE, COSHOW, COSSEY, COSSY, COTHAM, COTTON,
COULTER, COVEC, COVIN, COX, CRAG, CRAIG, CRAIGHEAD, CRANE, CRAWFORD, CRAWTON,
CREASEY, CREEL, CRENSHAW, CRIDER, CRIMMINS, CRISSMAN, CROCKER, CROCKETT,
CROOK, CROSBY, CROSS, CROSWELL, CROUCH, CROWDER, CROWE, CROWN, CRUSE,
CUMBERLAND, CUMMINGS, CUNNINGHAM, CUPP, CURL, CURRY, CURTIS
DABNEY, DAGGS, DAILY, DANIEL, DANIELS, DATER, DAUGHERTY, DAVASHER, DAVIDSON,
DAVIS, DAWES, DAWKINS, DAWSON, DAY, DE COLQUHOUN, DE GRAFFENREID, DE GRAW, DE
KIRKPATRICK, DEAL, DEARMAN, DEAUMONETTE, DECKER, DELANEY, DELORES, DEMARIS,
DEMSEY, DENDY, DENNARD, DENNING, DENNS, DICKENS, DICKEY, DICKSON, DILLARD,
DILLIARD, DIXON, DOBBS, DOBSON, DODSON, DONAHUE, DONNA, DOROTHY, DORRIS,
DORTHY, DOSS, DOUGLAS, DOWDY, DRENNAN, DREWREY, DUBOSE, DUKE, DULANEY,
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DUNAVANT, DUNCAN, DUNN, DUPREE, DUPUY, DURAY, DURHAM, DYE, DYSON
E., EADES, EARLWINE, EARLY, EARNEST, EAST, ECKLES, EDENS, EDINGTON, EDMONDS, EDWARDS, ELDER, ELENOR, ELKINS, ELLIOT, ELLIS, ELLISON, ELROD, ELSIE, ELY, EMMA, EMPSON, ENGLAND, ENGLISH, ENLOW, ENMON, ERSKINE, ERSTINA, ESSARY, ESTES, ESTHER, ETHERIDGE, ETHRIDGE, EUBANKS, EUNISA, EVANS, EVELYN, EVETTS, EWALD, EWING, EYRE
FAIR, FAIRCLOTH, FANN, FARMER, FARRAR, FARRELL, FARRON, FAULKNER, FAVARA, FEHLING, FERGUSON, FERRELL, FETTER, FIELDS, FINCH, FINLEY, FINN, FISHER, FITCH, FITZGERALD, FIVEASH, FLANNIGAN, FLEMMING, FLETHCER, FLOWERS, FLOYD, FOLIARD, FOLSUM, FON DRON, FORBES, FORBIS, FORD, FOREMAN, FORREST, FORTESCUE, FOSTER, FOUQUET, FOWLER, FRALICK, FRANKLIN, FRANKS, FRASER, FRAZIER, FREDRICK, FREE, FRESHWATERS, FREY, FREYTAG, FRIAR, FRINNIE, FRY, FTIZGERALD, FULGAM, FULLER, FUQUA, FURLOW
GABA, GALLOWAY, GANGI, GANN, GARCIA, GARLAND, GARNER, GARNETT, GARRETT, GARRISON, GARZA, GASINK, GASKIN, GAUT, GAY, GEDDIE, GEIJABEEK, GENGENBACH, GENTRY, GEORGE, GERALD, GIACHERIO, GIBSON, GIFFORD, GILBERT, GILKERSON, GILLESPIE, GILLIAN, GILLISPIE, GILLUM, GILMER, GILMORE, GIRL, GIVENS, GLANDER, GLASS, GLICK, GLORIA, GODDARD, GODFREY, GODWIN, GOETSCH, GOFF, GOLIGHTLY, GOMER, GONZALES, GOODWIN, GORDON, GRADY, GRAHAM, GRANT, GRANTHAM, GRAY, GRAYSON, GREEN, GREENWOOD, GREER, GREGORY, GRIFFIN, GRIFFITHS, GRIFNO,
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