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|Images: Anti-War activist, Astor Place |
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|by fred askew |
|Email: fritz (nospam) (unverified!) |
|27 Apr 2005 |
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|(from the Open Newswire): On Tuesday I came across an anti-war activist standing on traffic signal pole in Astor Place. A sign attached to the pole read, "WAR?" and on his |
|chest was written "All American." The "ONE WAY" signs were changed to read, "NO WAR." |
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|Apparently he stayed up there for almost two hours before the NYPD took him down. |
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|On Tuesday I came across an anti-war activist standing on traffic signal pole in Astor Place. A sign attached to the pole read, "WAR?" and on his chest was written "All |
|American." The "ONE WAY" signs were changed to read, "NO WAR." |
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|Apparently he stayed up there for almost two hours before the NYPD took him down. |
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|by A Real All American |
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|Current rating: 6 |
|27 Apr 2005 |
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|This man is obviously a threat to society. Thank the Lord my tax paying dollars were spent on that helicopter needed get him down and haul his Al-Quada ass away to |
|Guantanamo forever. Its gas tanks are big enough to get him there right? |
|I'm safe now; USA! USA! |
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|by amazing |
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|Current rating: 0 |
|27 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 11:45:53 AM |
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|This is fukin' great! Way to go! Cheers |
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|by peacefem |
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|Current rating: 2 |
|27 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 07:26:40 PM |
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|abc local news had a shot of this and they said his crown was made of dollars. how cool! |
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|by wow |
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|27 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 08:04:44 PM |
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|beautiful, powerful stuff. |
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|by Me |
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|Current rating: 0 |
|27 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 08:58:48 PM |
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|That is so cool. Good job. |
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|by yes |
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|Current rating: 0 |
|27 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 09:29:30 PM |
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|Thank you so much for performing this action, and thank you to the photographer as well. May this inspire a thousand real Americans to perform a thousand similar actions. |
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|by Roger Mexico |
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|28 Apr 2005 |
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|Bravo! to that dude. Congratulations! Very thought out, very symbolic, and very brave. Really, man - I give you credit for guts, heart, and brains! May you inspire more to |
|do likewise! |
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|by noordinaryspider |
|unknownsender (nospam) (unverified) |
|Current rating: 0 |
|28 Apr 2005 |
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|Eric, I hope you're reading this. I just wanted to add my support and let you know that I think you are FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!!! |
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|It's not going to be easy for you; I have seen you discredited as "emotionally disturbed" by this emotionally disturbed country. |
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|As long as someone in this madhouse retains enough sanity to do what you did, I think I can take one more breath, look myself in the eye while I brush my teeth this |
|morning, and make breakfast for my little boy. |
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|Thank you, Eric. |
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|by Bo Bo Bo Bo |
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|28 Apr 2005 |
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|Boring! |
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|by a-fee |
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|28 Apr 2005 |
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|THANK YOU, my friend. |
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|by kick ass |
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|28 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 10:41:41 AM |
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|What a great way for one single person to use their creativity to make a simple, powerful statement. |
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|by yes |
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|28 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 12:52:23 PM |
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|Yes, how "powerful", I'm sure this will change loads of peoples opinions about U.S. foreign policy. No one will think this guy is simply a nut, not in NYC, that would never|
|happen. |
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|by RadioActive Babe |
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|Current rating: 0 |
|28 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 04:26:55 PM |
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|How does one find out if Mr. Wallach needs $$ for his legal defense? Ya know he's gonna get hammered. |
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|It Is a Brilliant Idea |
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|by Sending a Powerful and Inspiring Message |
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|28 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 08:11:04 PM |
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|I propose we all do the same thing... on May Day! |
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|by - |
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|29 Apr 2005 |
|Modified: 02:18:23 AM |
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|yes, climb back up in your helicopter and scram. |
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|by real progressive |03 May 2005|
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|insulting christianity is a great way to end this imperialist war! Let's offend every group possible. |
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|by AJ |03 May 2005|
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|"Real" - you're an idiot. He's not INSULTING christianity, he is merely using a powerful "symbol" in which to say something |
|meaninful about the war in iraq, not the war in christianity. If anyone would sympathize with what this man has done (ie, preach |
|peace in a world of violence and idolitry), it would be Jesus himself. Way to go!!!! |
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|by tuckett |03 May 2005 |
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|such a good job..... |
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|by Rev. Jeffriah Speats |04 May 2005|
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|Eric Wallach's actions symbolize what makes America the land of the free. While some may disagree with his actions, we cannot ever|
|dispute nor deny his RIGHT to protest. Take that away and we might as well fly the hammer and sicle. |
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|Mr.Wallach is a patriot in the true and correct sense of the word. Lest we forget, this country was founded on the principles of |
|the right to express one's opinion freely. |
|Eli Wallach Is an Idiot |
|by % |05 May 2005|
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|How does climbing a lamp post half naked and emulating Jesus on the Cross end anything? It seems the guy wanted attention, and he |
|got it. But it ends nothing. |
|Images: Anti-War activist, Astor Place |
|by mp |06 May 2005|
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|I think the meaning of this picture is more than enough to show how people feel about the un-necessary war , he is a brave man ! |
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|by some kid |06 May 2005 |
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|THAT'S MY COUSIN!!!! |
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|1 of 61. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5265 posts |
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|I hope my chosen title is not too sensational, but I am finding it difficult to come up with something that does justice to these images. Wow - check these out! |
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|On Tuesday I came across an anti-war activist standing on traffic signal pole in Astor Place. A sign attached to the pole read, "WAR?" and on his chest was written |
|"All American." The "ONE WAY" signs were changed to read, "NO WAR." |
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|Apparently he stayed up there for almost two hours before the NYPD took him down. |
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|2 of 61. Mateo San Francisco | Member 412, Joined Mar 25, 2001 | 7501 posts |
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|Posted: 2005-04-27 19:59 |
|Great protest! How does the helicopter fit in? |
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|3 of 61. chlorocardium VA | Member 11315, Joined Feb 02, 2003 | 1444 posts |
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|Posted: 2005-04-27 19:59 |
|Stunning. Don't look for this event on the Old Stream Media. But I got the pics to send around. Thx Dag! Now in DC, what theatre should be in store... [pic] |
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|4 of 61. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5265 posts |
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|Great protest! How does the helicopter fit in? |
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|My guess is that it was flying overhead during the action. You know, Homeland Security and everything. |
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|5 of 61. RufusTFirefly Valley of Heart's Delight, Calif. | Member 9679, Joined Nov 14, 2002 | 3365 posts |
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|My guess is that it was flying overhead during the action. You know, Homeland Security and everything. |
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|Thank goodness they were there to protect us from him. You never know what he might've done otherwise, performed a miracle with loaves and fishes or something. |
|Dangerous. |
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|6 of 61. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|Great find, Dag! Thx! |
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|I'm gonna spread it around, too! |
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|This would be a wonderful popular protest, every street corner. Of course there's always re-enactments of the tea party... |
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|8 of 61. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5265 posts |
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|My guess is that it was flying overhead during the action. You know, Homeland Security and everything. |
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|Thank goodness they were there to protect us from him. You never know what he might've done otherwise, performed a miracle with loaves and fishes or something. |
|Dangerous. |
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|At least they didn't bust out the Fujifilm/NYPD blimp. |
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|This would be a wonderful popular protest, every street corner. Of course there's always re-enactments of the tea party... |
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|Bravo! to that dude. Congratulations! Very thought out, very symbolic, and very brave. Really, man - I give you credit for guts, heart, and brains! May you inspire |
|more to do likewise! |
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|Very dramatic. I wonder how many people paid any attetnion in the big city. No doubt the men in blue will haul him off to the rubber room so they can shoot him full |
|of drugs. I'm sure that nurse Ratshit will take really good care of him. |
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|12 of 61. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5265 posts |
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|Bravo! to that dude. Congratulations! Very thought out, very symbolic, and very brave. Really, man - I give you credit for guts, heart, and brains! May you inspire |
|more to do likewise! |
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|13 of 61. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|Kudos to the bravery and the crown made out of dollars. Brilliant! |
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|Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money. |
|--Cree Indian Proverb |
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|19 of 61. libertymax anti-intellectual backwater | Member 20534, Joined Feb 26, 2004 | 84 posts |
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|Posted: 2005-04-28 08:10 |
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|[pic]I'm soooooooo glad the authorities have declared this man with his totally inappropriate unAmerican protest against a fair and just war to be emotionally |
|disturbed. Of course, emotionally disturbed is one of those coded terms that allows the inhabitants of the manicured and weedless lawns of suburbia to comfortably |
|disregard the entire affair. There is nothing to see here. Move along. We'll take care of this dangerous man. He won't hurt you. Trust us. We have this protest thing|
|under control. America, go back to your TV and gourmet coffee. There's nothing to see here. [pic][pic][pic] |
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|Oh thank God, or whatever. When I saw this title I thought someone had literally had himself crucified in the way of the Romans, and was going to be a martyr for the|
|anti-war movement. This is much better. We need our activists alive. |
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|Melissa Puzio aka mmmmchemiweapons |
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|Oh thank God, or whatever. When I saw this title I thought someone had literally had himself crucified in the way of the Romans, and was going to be a martyr for the|
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|22 of 61. helios New Jersey | Member 10228, Joined Dec 10, 2002 | 905 posts |
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|Naturally, the police will issue a statement to the press that the man, Eric Wallach, was "emotionally disturbed" and the press will run with it gleefully. That is |
|standard police procedure along with slapping him with the resisting arrest and disorderly person beefs. It is also standard procedure for the MSM press to portray |
|any protester as a kook. |
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|Wallach's ingenious street theatre war protest was emotionally disturbing, but that was the point, wasn't it ? Wallach juxtaposed powerful symbols to make his |
|statement and the resultant image was provacative. But that is what art is supposed to do: move the emotions of the viewer. |
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|23 of 61. NonDairy_Creamer Central NYS, USA | Member 9743, Joined Nov 17, 2002 | 1536 posts |
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|Artist...emotionally disturbed. Whichever. [pic] |
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|24 of 61. KuhWaver Beautiful Eastern North Carolina | Member 429, Joined Mar 27, 2001 | 2847 posts |
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|I've been "emotionally disturbed" since December 12, 2000. |
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|25 of 61. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5265 posts |
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|Not me! I'm 100% normal, an extremely well-adjusted American consumer. I drive an SUV and drink Starbucks coffee. I listen to Britney Spears and watch American Idol,|
|and never think about unpleasant thoughts like war, torture, poverty, corruption, or anything like that. |
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|No sirree, I'm not emotionally disturbed one bit. I can recommend some good anti-depressants if you would like. |
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|Not me! I'm 100% normal, an extremely well-adjusted American consumer. I drive an SUV and drink Starbucks coffee. I listen to Britney Spears and watch American Idol,|
|and never think about unpleasant thoughts like war, torture, poverty, corruption, or anything like that. |
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|No sirree, I'm not emotionally disturbed one bit. I can recommend some good anti-depressants if you would like. |
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|He's not two years late! The war still rages on. When my 16 year old daughter saw the photos, she was afraid they would be gross, but I saw her face light up when |
|she saw the ordinary downtown scene with a Jesus figure on the traffic light. It's inspiring to the young, who thought protest had gone out of style. Gives you hope!|
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|28 of 61. panpipes | Member 27210, Joined Nov 18, 2004 | 73 posts |
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|I note that he is 33 years old. Isn't that the age that Jesus was supposedly when he was crucified? |
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|29 of 61. MrClean Fort Lauderdale | Member 8898, Joined Oct 21, 2002 | 1079 posts |
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|30 of 61. yoduuuh north hollywood, ca. | Member 15077, Joined Jul 06, 2003 | 1087 posts |
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|Posting my extreme admiration for courage in hopes other sixteen year olds may see it. |
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|31 of 61. dbostrom State of Confusion | Member 4910, Joined Feb 14, 2002 | 5527 posts |
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|Posting my extreme admiration for courage in hopes other sixteen year olds may see it. |
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|Meanwhile, the New Yorkers live up to their phlegmatic reputation. I'm not sure I can imagine another city where you'd see people studiously ignoring such a bizarre |
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|32 of 61. krutch PA | Member 18177, Joined Nov 07, 2003 | 304 posts |
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|Welcome to the USSR. Clearly, anybody who disagrees with the government and has the guts to say it is "emotionally disturbed". I think what he did was a poignant |
|work of art, but what do I know; I'm emotionally disturbed myself. If you're not emotionally disturbed in Bush's America, you're catatonic. |
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|33 of 61. Nichomachus The shrinking desert | Member 7193, Joined Jul 01, 2002 | 10550 posts |
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|Emotionally disturbed. Well, I've been emotionally disturbed since December of 2000. |
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|It's funny that someone who points out the truth is "emotionally disturbed," while policemen who rape prisoners with broomsticks or beat them senseless are just |
|"misunderstood" guys doing their job. |
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|34 of 61. Lizardking South of Crawford | Member 18283, Joined Nov 13, 2003 | 3101 posts |
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|I have to say I think he's 2 years late on this one. |
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|You're not aware that the BushCo neocons have their oily hands set on "liberating" Iran? If anything, he may be 2 years early. |
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|35 of 61. biohazard Rancho los Gatos | Member 21050, Joined Apr 07, 2004 | 232 posts |
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|Nicho, as usual, nails it. I think Mr. Wallach is eminently sane, and probably needs a legal fund. Ah, payday's just around the corner for me. |
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|If courage = emotional disturbance, then I could certainly use more of it. |
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|36 of 61. xxdr_zombiexx The Untied States (not a typo) | Member 13818, Joined Apr 21, 2003 | 5471 posts |
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|Emotionally disturbed? |
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|By a little thing like WAR? |
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|I should hope he is disturbed by it. |
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|This is a guy who makes me feel weak. What a ballsy and artistic thing to do. |
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|I'd likely lose my job if I pulled such a stunt and got arrested. Boom. Unemployed. |
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|37 of 61. mmmmchemiweapons Pittsburgh, PA-The Big Ketchup Bottle | Member 13958, Joined Apr 29, 2003 | 2195 posts |
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|Not me! I'm 100% normal, an extremely well-adjusted American consumer. I drive an SUV and drink Starbucks coffee. I listen to Britney Spears and watch American Idol,|
|and never think about unpleasant thoughts like war, torture, poverty, corruption, or anything like that. |
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|Hey now, don't make fun of me, but I actually watch American Idol, it's my guilty pleasure since its the only one of the stupid "reality tv" shows I watch. |
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|And like everyone else's concerns, I hope this is not a precursor for activity in Iran. Our boys will be truly and utterly fuckeded with the possibility of facing |
|comibined support of Iran, China, India and Russia. Please tell me even the BFEE isn't that stoopid and/or arrogant. |
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|38 of 61. enough kansas | Member 6723, Joined May 29, 2002 | 1104 posts |
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|40 of 61. 8percenter Troy, MI | Member 5796, Joined Apr 07, 2002 | 357 posts |
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|I confess- I've also been emotionally disturbed for the past 4 1/2 years. |
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|41 of 61. noordinaryspider Lower Northwestern New Auschwitz, CA | Member 26878, Joined Nov 09, 2004 | 252 posts |
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|42 of 61. RobMich Ohio and Texas | Member 9301, Joined Nov 03, 2002 | 455 posts |
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|43 of 61. chlorocardium VA | Member 11315, Joined Feb 02, 2003 | 1444 posts |
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|44 of 61. chicken_little_-_not | Member 7511, Joined Jul 24, 2002 | 167 posts |
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|Anybody got a way we can keep track of this? I really want to make sure that this guy doesn't get lost in the back eddies of this adminstration. We can't let him get|
|locked up in Bellevue without anyone going to bat for him. Where can we contribute to his defense or at the very least send him best wishes and thanks for a job well|
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|45 of 61. biohazard Rancho los Gatos | Member 21050, Joined Apr 07, 2004 | 232 posts |
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|I wasn't getting any info about Mr. Wallach through the usual suspects, so I e-mailed imc-nyc-editorial@ to see if they had any way of knowing how we |
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|Emotionally disturbed? Keenly aware, perhaps. He may be a playwright and theatre director. (Certainly not the lawyer I googled.) |
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|47 of 61. biohazard Rancho los Gatos | Member 21050, Joined Apr 07, 2004 | 232 posts |
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|I got the Brooklyn Rail, jackalope, and it sounds as if it could be the Eric Wallach cited. My e-mail to had a fatal bounce, so no joy there. |
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|48 of 61. jackalope | Member 11949, Joined Feb 25, 2003 | 609 posts |
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|Search on eric+wallach+albee and read the whole interview with Albee. Pay attention to what the interviewer says about war. |
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|49 of 61. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|For eight days I rode my bike with a big PEACE sign on the back wearing an upside-down American flag as a cape. I must have clocked over a hundred miles during the |
|convention randomly riding in circles around midtown confronting people, fellow protestors and the Republicans. |
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|Most of the time when I made eye contact I held up my two-fingered peace sign and quietly waited for a response. When I got a positive sign back it felt as if we had|
|made an agreement that we will both act to restore peace and will live peacefully now in order to see peace in the future. |
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|The majority of the people did not respond or would cursed at me. My only wish is that they had to think about their negative response as they saw the word PEACE on |
|the back of my bike. What do they want? War? Hopefully a seed of doubt was planted. |
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|From time to time I sang my own Passover song, “Get Out of Egypt”. The lyrics include: “Bush lied, we cried. The news said he was right. The Constitution has died. |
|So get out and shout tonight.” Sometimes I sang “Here Comes the Sun” with one word changed in the opening lyrics: “Little darling, it seems like years since PEACE |
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|Most of the younger cops nodded their support or raised their hands with a thumbs up or a peace sign themselves. Fortunately, no officers actually forced me to stop |
|as long as I kept the flow and didn’t get in the way. My heart goes out to all those patriots who were arrested and their bikes confiscated. |
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|The fluidity and freedom of my bike enabled me to be anywhere and everywhere during the demonstrations. I was able to join the Green Dragon’s Paul Revere ride |
|announcing “The Republicans are coming!” and I was one of the 5,000 bikes in the Critical Mass ride. I walked my bike in the United for Peace and Justice march and |
|rode all over the city during the August 31st day of direct actions. |
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|I saw a live board game of American Oligopoly that had our present Big Business political landscape represented and the Bush crew playing the Kerry party. I also |
|caught the Eyes Wide Open installation in Central Park with boots and shoes representing the troops and civilians killed in Iraq. |
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|On the last night of the convention my bike ride rant boiled down to, “Hey delegates, news flash: Bush is lying to you!” One Republican man mouthed quietly to me |
|that he knew Bush was lying, to which I said, “When you go in your voting booth you don’t have to vote for him.” Before popping into a cab he whispered, “I’m not.” |
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|I’m writing this all down not for self-congratulation but in the hopes that this may inspire other bikers to devise their own signs and songs. Even though the |
|convention is over, it is imperative that we continue our direct confrontation as often as possible. Let’s go to the tourist traps in the City and engage those |
|Americans that need to reconsider their vote. |
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|The work isn’t over when we have so far to go. Let’s divide and conquer. |
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|Power to the peaceful. |
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|It's alright. Don't make fun of me, but I actually do drive an SUV. A relative recently went abroad and gave it to me in her absence, so now I actually do drive an |
|SUV, to my great shame. But I only drive it sparingly, and still ride my bike and use the metro as my primary forms of transportation. |
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|I also drink Starbucks coffee. My aunt likes to give out Starbucks gift cards for Christmas, so I end up drinking about 20 bucks worth of Starbucks coffee a year. I |
|remember when I got arrested at the RNC, when my arresting officer emptied my wallet and came across my Starbucks card, he said, "Hey, I thought you guys hated |
|Starbucks." I said, "Well, I do, but it's a gift card. Of course I'll drink free coffee." I wish I said something like, "Yeah well I thought you guys like donuts." |
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|reason I think they will go after Iran is because Iran has switched to the euro for its oil transactions with the EU, and is moving to set up a new oil exchange |
|market called the Bourse. Iran has very strong political and economic ties with Europe, and setting up this Bourse might lead to the euro supplanting the dollar as |
|the world's oil currency. This cannot happen. |
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|The Bushies also have a very keen interest in making sure that the EU's diplomatic efforts do not succeed. If multilateralism proves successful, it will discredit |
|Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive war. This also cannot happen. I think we're going to war. |
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|51 of 62. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-28 22:54 |
| |And by the way, the Eric Wallach, Director and Playwright of "Interview with Edward Albee," from the |
| |Brooklyn Rail has the same email as the Eric Wallach from "Riding until we get there." |
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| |ebwally@ |
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| |[ This message was edited by: glaucon on 2005-04-28 22:55 ] |
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|52 of 62. jackalope | Member 11949, Joined Feb 25, 2003 | 609 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 00:05 |
| |Nice sleuthing, glaucon. |
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| |If the truth won't float in America, it's no longer America. Cliff Arnebeck |
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|53 of 62. Mickey_P | Member 17738, Joined Oct 20, 2003 | 279 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 09:54 |
| |"Emotionally disturbed" |
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| |Anyone who isn't emotionally disturbed by an unnecessary war is pathologically disturbed. |
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|54 of 62. biohazard Rancho los Gatos | Member 21050, Joined Apr 07, 2004 | 233 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 11:43 |
| |Thank you, glaucon. I sent an email to ebwally@, "axing" if he's da man and needs a few shekels.|
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| |If he's being tranquilised out of his gourd at a hospital, it may be awhile before we hear from him! |
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| |"For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of the not-worth-knowing." |
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|55 of 62. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 11:52 |
| |WTF???? |
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| |Follow this link, for Wallach's story "Riding until We Get there," from IndyMedia, which worked fine |
| |yesterday. |
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| |IndyMedia |
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| |Freepers have fucking re-routed it! |
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| |Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we |
| |realize we cannot eat money. |
| |--Cree Indian Proverb |
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| |[ This message was edited by: glaucon on 2005-04-29 11:53 ] |
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| |[ This message was edited by: glaucon on 2005-04-29 11:54 ] |
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|56 of 62. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 11:55 |
| |Here's what you get now (and it's the same with the link to the original pictures): |
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| |g00ns r00ted th1s |
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| |You have lied to the American People over and over again. You attend The Fifth Hope and spread your |
| |wicked ideology there. Expect more of this. |
| |American Imperialism is non-existent. Our soldiers are dying over sees to give men, women, and children a|
| |taste of freedom and you call them imperialists. You are nothing but pigs. You are not against Bush you |
| |are against Republicans, you are against anyone who has a different opinion and way of thinking than you.|
| |Your box got rooted for lying to the American people. Here are some fun things for the visitors: |
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| |How do they accomplish something like this??? |
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| |[ This message was edited by: glaucon on 2005-04-29 12:05 ] |
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|57 of 62. Ohiogirl Home of the wide-eyed and corn-fed | Member 21667, Joined May 04, 2004 | 131 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 12:26 |
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| |On 2005-04-29 11:55, glaucon wrote: |
| |Here's what you get now (and it's the same with the link to the original pictures): |
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| |g00ns r00ted th1s |
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| |You have lied to the American People over and over again. You attend The Fifth Hope and spread your |
| |wicked ideology there. Expect more of this. |
| |American Imperialism is non-existent. Our soldiers are dying over sees to give men, women, and children a|
| |taste of freedom and you call them imperialists. You are nothing but pigs. You are not against Bush you |
| |are against Republicans, you are against anyone who has a different opinion and way of thinking than you.|
| |Your box got rooted for lying to the American people. Here are some fun things for the visitors: |
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| |How do they accomplish something like this??? |
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| |[ This message was edited by: glaucon on 2005-04-29 12:05 ] |
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| |Yeah, good question. They found a weakness in Indymedia's server, got in, and made themselves admins. |
| |That gave them privileges to deface the site. |
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| |I went to their "site." All locked down tight. Probably tracked that I came from here, which means they |
| |may come here to try to hack this site. Hope Smirky's got some hard-ass protection on his servers. |
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| |Their "site" seems to be a combo of animé and ratwing extremism. Skins on their forums are all |
| |black--interesting choice. They sure got real bent over Eric. Also seem to be "bent" on defending reepers|
| |vs. god-boy. Why, I wonder. Is this a new reep front to "attack and defend" the internets from libruls? |
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| |How to fight back? Out these little fuckers? I have no server/web/hacker kung-fu at all. |
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| |I don't know if "r00ted" vs "routed" means anything. Is it a "piracy" thing like "warez"? I see they |
| |can't spell "over sees." What's the Fifth Hope? What wicked ideology? Disagreement with the reep party |
| |line? |
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| |Curious curious curious. A DeLay mystery--who's the vermin? |
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|58 of 62. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5265 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 12:26 |
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| |On 2005-04-29 11:55, glaucon wrote: |
| |How do they accomplish something like this??? |
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| |With a little help from the FBI, the Fascist Bureau of Investigation. |
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|59 of 62. Ohiogirl Home of the wide-eyed and corn-fed | Member 21667, Joined May 04, 2004 | 131 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 13:17 |
| |Fifth Hope links |
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| |Hm. Seems to be a hacker conference. My guess is that the g00ns don't like this group, 'cause it looks |
| |like the attendees may be of "The Left." Apparently hacker know-how should only be a privilege of |
| |fascists. |
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| |I noted that at least one of the links on this page were hacked by these jerks. |
| |I also noted that NYC Independent Media was there. |
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| |Curious curious curious. |
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|60 of 62. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1724 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 13:27 |
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| |On 2005-04-29 13:17, Ohiogirl wrote: |
| |Fifth Hope links |
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| |Hm. Seems to be a hacker conference. My guess is that the g00ns don't like this group, 'cause it looks |
| |like the attendees may be of "The Left." Apparently hacker know-how should only be a privilege of |
| |fascists. |
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| |I noted that at least one of the links on this page were hacked by these jerks. |
| |I also noted that NYC Independent Media was there. |
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| |Curious curious curious. |
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| |link doesn't work, even after the extra "http" is deleted. [pic] |
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| |Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we |
| |realize we cannot eat money. |
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|61 of 62. Ohiogirl Home of the wide-eyed and corn-fed | Member 21667, Joined May 04, 2004 | 131 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 13:46 |
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| |On 2005-04-29 13:27, glaucon wrote: |
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| |~~snip!!~~ |
| |Curious curious curious. |
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| |link doesn't work, even after the extra "http" is deleted. [pic] |
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| |Hi glaucon, |
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| |Hm. Link from my corn-puter works; no double http, either. Must be something I did in the link. |
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| |Try to copy/paste this link: |
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| |Having the hoop in the URL works for me, but maybe that won't work for you, so try without if necessary. |
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| |Otherwise google "Fifth Hope" in quotes for lots of links! |
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| |Og |
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|62 of 62. biohazard Rancho los Gatos | Member 21050, Joined Apr 07, 2004 | 233 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 20:05 |
| |I've received a coupla e-mail responses from ebwally@, and he mentioned he's getting plenty of |
| |legal help. He rather skirted the issue of whether he was going to get hammered on the fees, but did give|
| |me sound advice on those beastly "patriotic" magnetic ribbons. Just move 'em to cover the fuel door. |
| |Prolly too subtle for the freepers, though. |
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|63 of 63. rtconsult | Member 8945, Joined Oct 23, 2002 | 129 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-29 20:54 |
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| |On 2005-04-28 08:48, helios wrote: |
| |Naturally, the police will issue a statement to the press that the man, Eric Wallach, was "emotionally |
| |disturbed" and the press will run with it gleefully. That is standard police procedure along with |
| |slapping him with the resisting arrest and disorderly person beefs. It is also standard procedure for the|
| |MSM press to portray any protester as a kook. |
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| |Wallach's ingenious street theatre war protest was emotionally disturbing, but that was the point, wasn't|
| |it ? Wallach juxtaposed powerful symbols to make his statement and the resultant image was provacative. |
| |But that is what art is supposed to do: move the emotions of the viewer. |
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| |Wallach is an artist and I applaud him. |
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| |I applaud this talented artist with a big BUMP. I wish the sleeping Americans do rise and see this man's |
| |art and condemn what the power hungry white house officials have done to this country. |
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| |Shame on the coward police officials for being unkind to the real person and using their unfair |
| |authorities in an unlawful manner. |
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| |I want a free press we use to have instead of the shameful press we now have. |
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| |I wish I can get back my pre 2000 America back. |
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|64 of 71. ebwally | Member 29676, Joined Apr 30, 2005 | 1 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 18:33 |
| |To those who have read this article, |
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| |Thank you for your kind words and wishes |
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| |I'm sure I'll be able to deal with my legal issues. I've been charged with Disorderly conduct (a |
| |violation) and Obstruction of Governmental Administration in the second degree (a misdemeanor, |
| |piunishable up to a year in jail) - that's because I was standing in front of the street signs. All my |
| |lawyer friends say I have a good case. |
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| |The event went off very well. The image was clear and the message got out. |
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| |The cops and the "criminals" I met in The System were respectful and supportive. |
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| |The story got on a couple of news channels and published in a couple of newspapers. |
| |(FYI: The Associated Press and New York Times were notified but would not come downtown for just one |
| |person's protest ...) |
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| |See my neighborhood paper's account: |
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| |I hope as you do that those who want a future free of war will create their own actions. If one person |
| |takes a stab at the war racketeers everyday, we'll certainly slow them down, til one day, the machine |
| |will stop. |
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| |I believe as you do. |
| |We'll get there one day. |
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| |Til peace shines on |
| |I'll remain |
| |ripe for the fight |
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| |Sincerely, |
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| |Eric |
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| |Forward please. |
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|65 of 71. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1956 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 18:36 |
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| |On 2005-04-30 18:33, ebwally wrote: |
| |To those who have read this article, |
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| |Thank you for your kind words and wishes |
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| |Best wishes and warm regards, Eric! |
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| |You're famous, you know! [pic] |
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| |And rightly so... |
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| |Carry on the good work, brother. |
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| |Peace! |
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| |Now, I know that standards have slipped over the last few years in Washington, but for a lawyer, you're |
| |remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice. --Galloway |
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|66 of 71. dag Planet Starbucks | Member 1679, Joined Jun 19, 2001 | 5445 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 18:56 |
| |Eric, thank you so much for your brave act of defiance. It was truly inspirational, something that I will|
| |remember and keep in mind for quite some time. |
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| |Every time I have second thoughts about committing some act of protest that puts my soul on the line and |
| |opens me up to ridicule, I will think of your crucifixion protest in New York City, and remember your |
| |bravery. I hope everyone else does too. |
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| |Thanks again, and the best of luck with your case. For what it's worth, I'm currently suing New York for |
| |my unlawful arrest during the RNC. Hopefully our lawsuit affects your case in some way. Hopefully they |
| |decide to dismiss your charges. |
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| |Solidarity forever, |
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| |Dag |
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|67 of 71. Getsen Ununited States of Amerrykillin | Member 15541, Joined Jul 21, 2003 | 1422 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 19:43 |
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| |On 2005-04-30 18:33, ebwally wrote: |
| |To those who have read this article, |
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| |Thank you for your kind words and wishes |
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| |I'm sure I'll be able to deal with my legal issues. I've been charged with Disorderly conduct (a |
| |violation) and Obstruction of Governmental Administration in the second degree (a misdemeanor, |
| |piunishable up to a year in jail) - that's because I was standing in front of the street signs. All my |
| |lawyer friends say I have a good case. |
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| |The event went off very well. The image was clear and the message got out. |
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| |The cops and the "criminals" I met in The System were respectful and supportive. |
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| |The story got on a couple of news channels and published in a couple of newspapers. |
| |(FYI: The Associated Press and New York Times were notified but would not come downtown for just one |
| |person's protest ...) |
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| |See my neighborhood paper's account: |
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| |I hope as you do that those who want a future free of war will create their own actions. If one person |
| |takes a stab at the war racketeers everyday, we'll certainly slow them down, til one day, the machine |
| |will stop. |
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| |I believe as you do. |
| |We'll get there one day. |
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| |Til peace shines on |
| |I'll remain |
| |ripe for the fight |
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| |Sincerely, |
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| |Eric |
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| |Forward please. |
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| |Thank you for being a real American. |
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| |America........let humanity be your God! |
| |-Getsen 2005 |
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| |I am a free thinker.......or at least they haven't figured out how to tax or invoice me for it yet! |
| |-Getsen 2003 |
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|68 of 71. glaucon Michigan | Member 26782, Joined Nov 07, 2004 | 1956 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 19:54 |
| |Eric, |
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| |Could you speak to the issue of how you view the relationship between theater and protest? Has your |
| |interest in the theater affected how you plan and execute your public works of "art?" |
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| |Or am I being too frigging cerebral? [pic] |
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| |on edit: I place art in quotation marks, not in order to belittle it, but to acknowledge that many people|
| |do not view public protest as a form of theater. |
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| |[ This message was edited by: glaucon on 2005-04-30 20:02 ] |
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|69 of 71. Jinx_dragon | Member 18989, Joined Dec 19, 2003 | 100 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 20:00 |
| |Disorderly conduct I can understand, I would still fight it though because it is a crap charge that |
| |doesn’t over write the first amendment. The second one made me sit up though, what sort of… Obstruction |
| |of Governmental Administration? What the hell, that just makes all protests illegal in that one move. |
| |Besides how did you obstruct any administration at all? You weren’t hanged up inside city hall, blocking |
| |the doorway to a court room or something of the likes… |
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| |Crap charges, fight them my friend and you should easily win. You have my best wishes for it. Some people|
| |think protesting is the whole fight, but it is only one of the many fights to come. If they get away with|
| |locking up protestors, then we won’t have a voice either. Fight all the charges and win, then bring |
| |around charges of your own. Hurt them financially and it will become better for the city to ignore |
| |non-violent protestors then arrest them en-masses for no charges or stupid ones like these. |
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| |You have our support, and the support of nearly everyone who saw the protest. |
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|70 of 71. chlorocardium VA | Member 11315, Joined Feb 02, 2003 | 1577 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-04-30 21:40 |
| |Ebwally, many thanks for expressing yourself. We lose our rights if we do not practice them. |
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| |I applaud the concept, execution (oops), and the entire theatrical insight that the police were invited |
| |to participate in, in front of the world, as they ended your protest art (which was the beginning of it |
| |for us...). |
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| |May the stone roll away from the charges made against you, and may we all have the courage to tell the |
| |world what we think. |
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|71 of 71. biohazard Rancho los Gatos | Member 21050, Joined Apr 07, 2004 | 265 posts |
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|[pic] |Posted: 2005-05-01 16:58 |
| |Hello, ebwally, it's wonderful you've joined, and great to hear from you. Hope you've a chance to log on |
| |now and then--the SC has some great contributors that're very thoughtful, well-informed, and articulate. |
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| |"I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to |
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| [pic][pic] How do the police know he's "emotionally disturbed?" |
| CottonBear |
| Apr-27-05 09:52 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] In their opinion... |
| ClintonTyree |
| Apr-27-05 09:56 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Oh, I don't know. |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-27-05 10:13 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] this is what they would do to Jesus if he were on our streets today ... |
| NVMojo |
| Apr-27-05 10:17 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] I somehow doubt Jesus would spend his time in ridiculous-looking |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-27-05 10:19 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] Jesus got Assassinated |
| chlamor |
| Apr-27-05 10:48 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] Well, since dozens of idiots have pulled stunts like this while the world |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-27-05 10:56 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] "Get a life." is never a very convincing insult on the Internet. |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-27-05 11:03 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] You took that as an insult? |
| glaucon |
| Apr-27-05 11:07 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic][pic] Guess the mods did too. |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-28-05 12:07 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] How about this? If not-protesting is working for you, try not-posting |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 12:31 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] Well, if it'll work for you, |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-28-05 11:37 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] Ick |
| otohara |
| Apr-28-05 11:47 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] I protest, I post. I support DEMs and Progressives who... |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 07:10 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] Post #17 says "they" would do to Jesus, not Jesus would protest |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 12:20 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] They wouldn't arrest Jesus for doing what he did. |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-28-05 11:36 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] I'll can get back to you on this with verse and examples, but... |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 07:20 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic][pic] This gesture |
| chlamor |
| Apr-28-05 09:28 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic] [pic][pic] I appreciate the support, but I feel unworthy. |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 11:47 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] There was that little dust-up in the Temple. |
| okasha |
| Apr-28-05 10:43 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] un approved healer or teacher could certainly be arrested in US |
| bobbieinok |
| Apr-28-05 10:57 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] Jesus was mistaken for a resister to the occupation back then- Today |
| hollowdweller |
| Apr-28-05 07:38 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] [pic][pic] At least He would have known not to approach a check point. |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 11:49 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] tied to a cross but resisted arrest |
| Toots |
| Apr-28-05 10:59 AM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic] They didn't arrest him on the cross. |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-28-05 11:37 AM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic] Possible And Likely Based On What??? |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-28-05 01:57 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Easy |
| FreedomAngel82 |
| Apr-27-05 11:38 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] With a picture like that, though, the press has to say something. |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 12:35 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] I think that this picture is beautiful. |
| Melodybe |
| Apr-28-05 03:06 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Sure. If it was the Religious Right-Wing Nugbags |
| AuntiBush |
| Apr-28-05 03:21 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] Not everyone who supports Jesus is a repuke. |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-29-05 12:03 AM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic] Right on Tigress! I feel exactly the same way. |
| Melodybe |
| Apr-29-05 12:15 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] I thought the exact same thing |
| SunDrop23 |
| Apr-28-05 10:16 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] he spoke out |
| leftofthedial |
| Apr-29-05 01:13 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Are the cops in the picture |
| vptpt |
| Apr-27-05 09:52 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] They're spearing him in the side and stealing his robe |
| Generic Other |
| Apr-27-05 09:56 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] others are casting lots |
| mmonk |
| Apr-27-05 10:02 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] Hopefully the voters will cast Lott next time around n/t |
| MADem |
| Apr-28-05 09:50 AM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] heh heh |
| mmonk |
| Apr-28-05 12:22 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Now there is a true patriot! |
| demgurl |
| Apr-27-05 09:57 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Maybe he can go on a "anti-war crucifixion utility pole tour" |
| CottonBear |
| Apr-27-05 10:00 PM |
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| [pic][pic] There are some better pictures |
| glaucon |
| Apr-27-05 09:59 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Great Pics |
| chlamor |
| Apr-27-05 10:03 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Awesome - Can anyone say Pulitzer? Should be on the cover of TIME |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 12:52 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Here's some more pics |
| glaucon |
| Apr-27-05 10:06 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Thx Glaucon |
| chlamor |
| Apr-27-05 10:26 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] No problemo, dude |
| glaucon |
| Apr-27-05 10:30 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] Said It One Your Thread But, I'm Saying It Here Too! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-28-05 08:09 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Power to the People! |
| FtWayneBlue |
| Apr-27-05 10:07 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] and never surrender! |
| lonestarnot |
| Apr-27-05 10:15 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Look what's around his waist...look familiar? |
| Atman |
| Apr-27-05 10:08 PM |
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| [pic][pic] There's a cover of Time Americans should see. |
| shance |
| Apr-27-05 10:10 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Thank you, Eric, for being arrested for the USA sins .... |
| NVMojo |
| Apr-27-05 10:16 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] he's being arrested for his reaction to USA sins |
| Catholic Sensation |
| Apr-27-05 11:26 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] Oh yes, God forbid he wakes people up. |
| RetroLounge |
| Apr-29-05 01:06 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Thanks for posting this. |
| NYC |
| Apr-27-05 10:27 PM |
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| [pic][pic] "Emotionally DISTURBED"? |
| BiggJawn |
| Apr-27-05 10:34 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] While it is true most rational people are "disturbed" by the war... |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 12:59 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Amazing Shot! Kick And A Nod! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-27-05 11:33 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] I concur. KICK-a-Rama! |
| Tigress DEM |
| Apr-28-05 01:02 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Good work! |
| Jersey Ginny |
| Apr-27-05 11:50 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Incredible courage...a genius in my opinion. Sure got his message across. |
| BrklynLiberal |
| Apr-28-05 12:25 AM |
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| [pic][pic] So if your a protester you are disturbed |
| brettdale |
| Apr-28-05 12:28 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] If you aren't disturbed |
| chlamor |
| Apr-28-05 12:32 AM |
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| [pic][pic] He looks like Jim Kavezil up there! (nt) |
| TwoSparkles |
| Apr-28-05 12:57 AM |
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| [pic][pic] the most recognizable symbol in the West used as an antiwar statement |
| kodi |
| Apr-28-05 01:00 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Helluva a lot more effective than "Trailer Hitch Jesus" |
| Straight Shooter |
| Apr-28-05 01:07 AM |
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| [pic][pic] I'm seriously having a déjà vu moment. Shades of the 60's. |
| Daphne08 |
| Apr-28-05 02:12 AM |
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| [pic][pic] What a Statement! I LOVE IT! eom |
| TheGoldenRule |
| Apr-28-05 03:29 AM |
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| Swamp Rat |
| Apr-28-05 03:38 AM |
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| [pic][pic] . |
| whatelseisnew |
| Apr-28-05 08:25 AM |
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| [pic][pic] I Hope This New Graphic Helps This Guy Spread His Message!!! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-28-05 09:27 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Definitely a powerful message |
| Sherwood |
| Apr-28-05 09:58 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Please post 50. How insane does that actually look? |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-28-05 10:00 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Tit for Tat |
| TNOE |
| Apr-28-05 10:16 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] Not fundies |
| Sherwood |
| Apr-28-05 10:30 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic][pic] I don't think he's mocking the messiah |
| TNOE |
| Apr-28-05 10:37 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic][pic] And what would a nation of 100 million "Jesuses" accomplish |
| Lone Pawn |
| Apr-28-05 12:39 PM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic] Are you trying to disrupt this thread? |
| Swamp Rat |
| Apr-28-05 01:14 PM |
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| Apr-28-05 01:25 PM |
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| Name removed |
| Apr-28-05 02:20 PM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic][pic][pic] Myself, I usually state my disagreements and move on. Let folks make up |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-28-05 02:28 PM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic][pic] Amen! |
| Kathy in Cambridge |
| Apr-28-05 03:35 PM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic] They could do amazing things to spead the message of peace. |
| efhmc |
| Apr-28-05 02:39 PM |
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| [pic][pic] [pic][pic] Maybe they just should have maced him and clubbed him |
| Kathy in Cambridge |
| Apr-28-05 03:36 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] I disagree. |
| Swamp Rat |
| Apr-28-05 02:17 PM |
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| [pic][pic] he's a protesting artist - this is street art - it's great! |
| donsu |
| Apr-28-05 12:36 PM |
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| [pic][pic] SERIOUSLY Folks ! Don't EVER try anything like this stunt ... |
| HamdenRice |
| Apr-28-05 12:47 PM |
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| [pic][pic] A picture like this... |
| glaucon |
| Apr-28-05 12:50 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] You are Absolutely 100% Correct |
| TNOE |
| Apr-28-05 01:22 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Any person with a working Cerebral Cortex should be disturbed |
| femme.democratique |
| Apr-28-05 02:02 PM |
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| [pic][pic] This war has me me "emotionally disturbed," too |
| Sabriel |
| Apr-28-05 02:04 PM |
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| [pic][pic] You just go dude on the Cross...Where do we send bail money? |
| lonestarnot |
| Apr-28-05 02:06 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Out on newsstands soon? |
| ByTheRiver |
| Apr-28-05 02:24 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Photo looks like inner sleeve of "L.A. Woman". |
| Number9Dream |
| Apr-28-05 03:02 PM |
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| [pic][pic] '40' |
| chlamor |
| Apr-28-05 05:40 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] "Man In The Tree" |
| seemslikeadream |
| Apr-28-05 10:15 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] "There Was A Man" |
| seemslikeadream |
| Apr-29-05 09:43 AM |
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| [pic][pic] RIDING UNTIL WE GET THERE, by Eric Wallach |
| glaucon |
| Apr-28-05 10:19 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Excellent. I'll E-mail my graphic and ask. I'll let you know what if |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-28-05 10:29 PM |
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| [pic][pic] May 2-Mission Not Accomplished |
| chlamor |
| Apr-29-05 11:02 AM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Waht I Was Thinking Last May 2... |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-29-05 11:13 AM |
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| [pic][pic] Go to Post #91 |
| glaucon |
| Apr-29-05 12:06 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] And if they can do it to |
| glaucon |
| Apr-29-05 12:18 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Fucking Cyber Freepers!!! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-29-05 01:00 PM |
| #104 |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] Looks like the cops (FBI) might be involved! |
| glaucon |
| Apr-29-05 01:14 PM |
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| [pic] [pic][pic] GOOD! I Hope They Bust Their Cowardly Little Asses!!! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-29-05 01:15 PM |
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| [pic][pic] I don't dig it |
| Jesus Saves |
| Apr-29-05 01:18 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] PM Lone Pawn I'm Sure The Two Of You Will Hit It Right Off! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-29-05 01:22 PM |
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| [pic][pic] 'Mission Accomplished' |
| chlamor |
| Apr-29-05 11:52 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Kick for truth on this war! |
| DistressedAmerican |
| Apr-30-05 12:13 AM |
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| [pic][pic] ... |
| chlamor |
| Apr-30-05 10:15 AM |
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| [pic][pic] kick |
| chlamor |
| Apr-30-05 10:48 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Smirking Chimp link |
| glaucon |
| Apr-30-05 10:52 PM |
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| [pic][pic][pic] Excellent Glaucon |
| chlamor |
| Apr-30-05 11:22 PM |
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| [pic][pic] What an awesome protest |
| jimshoes |
| Apr-30-05 11:17 PM |
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| [pic][pic] Message from Eric Wallach |
| glaucon |
| Apr-30-05 11:33 PM |
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|teacher. The only way in which they could arrest Jesus would be for "disorderly conduct"--which would mean he would have to more|
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|This isn't the America we've been taught about in school Lone Pawn. |
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|There was a man who wound up in Guantanamo Bay for over 3 years, was tortured and denied access to a lawyer until people on the |
|outside found out what was going on and screamed bloody murder, he may still be there.. but the kicker is - he was the wrong |
|guy. He was the room mate of the man they were looking for and they still never kept him for at least 3 years. |
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|These people did nothing, but our government authorized their torture and detainment without any due process. |
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|This guy knew what he was doing and we should all be so brave as to lay ourselves bare to the truth of this appalling |
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|Kick Ass! Tigress Dem |
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|Socrates said: "All wars are fought for money." |
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|I am so impressed that this person got up and did such a brave thing, risked his 15 minutes of fame on a worthy statement of |
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|Then again, someone with that much courage deserves my support, but can probably handle the detractors just fine. |
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|I've been trying to be a peaceful influence here, but sometimes I just get up in arms, you know? |
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|94. un approved healer or teacher could certainly be arrested in US |
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|that *ush is waging this war in OUR Name. |
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|us anyway - like a true friend. I believe HE loves EVERYONE, as the Son of God knows each name and face - including the Iraqis' |
|and HIS grievious rage that this war, this killing is being done in HIS name must be nearly unbearable. |
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|love that can heal everyone it touches) and I do NOT believe that the Christ I believe in would ever EVER allow the murder of |
|innocent children in HIS name without some accounting some day and some how to those who blaspheme Him in such a manner. |
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|die for our sins, NOT so we could go out and kill some more. It is a message to believers to search their hearts and really |
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|29. Amazing Shot! Kick And A Nod! |
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|42. I concur. KICK-a-Rama! |
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|31. Good work! |
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|This man is a great visual reminder to so-called-Christians that it's likely Jesus would not support this war. |
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|Thu Apr-28-05 12:25 AM |
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|33. Incredible courage...a genius in my opinion. Sure got his message across. |
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|Thu Apr-28-05 12:28 AM |
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|34. So if your a protester you are disturbed |
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|Thu Apr-28-05 12:32 AM |
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|Thu Apr-28-05 12:57 AM |
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|39. He looks like Jim Kavezil up there! (nt) |
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|Thu Apr-28-05 01:00 AM |
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|41. the most recognizable symbol in the West used as an antiwar statement |
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|43. Helluva a lot more effective than "Trailer Hitch Jesus" |
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|44. I'm seriously having a déjà vu moment. Shades of the 60's. |
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|45. What a Statement! I LOVE IT! eom |
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|46. kick |
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|Right wingers hate protests like this and will find any reason to criticize. [pic] |
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|49. I Hope This New Graphic Helps This Guy Spread His Message!!! |
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|I just posted this new graphic to my site and sent it out to my ever growing e-mail distribution list with the following text: |
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|Thanks to you and glaucon for bringing this great protest to my attention!!!! [pic] |
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|51. Definitely a powerful message |
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|However, I doubt its effectiveness. To the average American (ie NOT a DU'er), this guy will look insane. As a representative of |
|the anti-war movement, I'm not sure that's what we should be going for. This will probably offend people of faith, who are often|
|leery about the war in the first place (excluding fudies, of course). |
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|52. Please post 50. How insane does that actually look? |
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|offended the hell out of me and our Constitution. I applaud this man for his courage and conviction - if we all only had a drop |
|of the courage this man had - we wouldn't have a sociopath running our country now. |
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|54. Not fundies |
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|- the Irai's are his children too, not just us, as most Americans seem to believe. I think Jesus would be making a statement |
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|64. And what would a nation of 100 million "Jesuses" accomplish |
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|67. Are you trying to disrupt this thread? |
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|82. Amen! |
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|78. They could do amazing things to spead the message of peace. |
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|63. he's a protesting artist - this is street art - it's great! |
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|65. SERIOUSLY Folks ! Don't EVER try anything like this stunt ... |
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|Maybe the guy is disturbed for doing this if he knows how dangerous this is -- but I doubt it. |
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|We all do what we can in life, depending on our abilities, our talents and our inclinations. Some protest a grotesque war by |
|making a statement using symbols that are viceral to many Americans. Others whine and nitpick his actions; talents vary widely. |
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|minions. It is the same Nixonian voice that desparately tried to ridicule the protests of the '60's. |
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|68. You are Absolutely 100% Correct |
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|73. You just go dude on the Cross...Where do we send bail money? |
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|Said: I'm going to town to pawn my crown |
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|Of silk and moonlight and now |
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|So pleasant a task she never asks |
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|Listens to my sad tale |
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|As I passed by again on that day |
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|Said: nails aren't the way to be free to stay |
|So I traded them all for the end |
|Went back to my lady in waiting and all of her friends |
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|But he sold his robes at the five and ten |
|And lived on the edge of town |
|That fall he showed us a magic leaf |
|That he could change to snow |
|He bought it partly with his grief |
|And partly with his soul |
|He scattered seeds in the alley way |
|He never seemed to rest |
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|All he ever said was yes |
|He made a swan from waving grass |
|Beside a crystal shore |
|And a sunrise spun from broken glass |
|And many things wondrous more |
|But then his hands began to burn |
|When he heard the news from the war |
|When we cannot find each other he said |
|Then we can't run away any more |
|Next day with tears along his face |
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|No one thought to ask him to stay |
|And he knows that we never will |
|There was a man came to our town |
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|Thu Apr-28-05 10:19 PM |
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|91. RIDING UNTIL WE GET THERE, by Eric Wallach |
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|clocked over a hundred miles during the convention randomly riding in circles around midtown confronting people, fellow |
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|Most of the time when I made eye contact I held up my two-fingered peace sign and quietly waited for a response. When I got a |
|positive sign back it felt as if we had made an agreement that we will both act to restore peace and will live peacefully now in|
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|The majority of the people did not respond or would cursed at me. My only wish is that they had to think about their negative |
|response as they saw the word PEACE on the back of my bike. What do they want? War? Hopefully a seed of doubt was planted. |
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|From time to time I sang my own Passover song, “Get Out of Egypt”. The lyrics include: “Bush lied, we cried. The news said he |
|was right. The Constitution has died. So get out and shout tonight.” Sometimes I sang “Here Comes the Sun” with one word changed|
|in the opening lyrics: “Little darling, it seems like years since PEACE has been here.” |
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|Most of the younger cops nodded their support or raised their hands with a thumbs up or a peace sign themselves. Fortunately, no|
|officers actually forced me to stop as long as I kept the flow and didn’t get in the way. My heart goes out to all those |
|patriots who were arrested and their bikes confiscated. |
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|The fluidity and freedom of my bike enabled me to be anywhere and everywhere during the demonstrations. I was able to join the |
|Green Dragon’s Paul Revere ride announcing “The Republicans are coming!” and I was one of the 5,000 bikes in the Critical Mass |
|ride. I walked my bike in the United for Peace and Justice march and rode all over the city during the August 31st day of direct|
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|I saw a live board game of American Oligopoly that had our present Big Business political landscape represented and the Bush |
|crew playing the Kerry party. I also caught the Eyes Wide Open installation in Central Park with boots and shoes representing |
|the troops and civilians killed in Iraq. |
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|On the last night of the convention my bike ride rant boiled down to, “Hey delegates, news flash: Bush is lying to you!” One |
|Republican man mouthed quietly to me that he knew Bush was lying, to which I said, “When you go in your voting booth you don’t |
|have to vote for him.” Before popping into a cab he whispered, “I’m not.” |
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|I’m writing this all down not for self-congratulation but in the hopes that this may inspire other bikers to devise their own |
|signs and songs. Even though the convention is over, it is imperative that we continue our direct confrontation as often as |
|possible. Let’s go to the tourist traps in the City and engage those Americans that need to reconsider their vote. |
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|The work isn’t over when we have so far to go. Let’s divide and conquer. |
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|You have lied to the American People over and over again. You attend The Fifth Hope and spread your wicked ideology there. |
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|American Imperialism is non-existent. Our soldiers are dying over sees to give men, women, and children a taste of freedom and |
|you call them imperialists. You are nothing but pigs. You are not against Bush you are against Republicans, you are against |
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|Governmental Administration in the second degree (a misdemeanor, piunishable up to a year in jail) - that's because I was |
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Passion of the Protester; Renegade anti-war activist strikes a Jesus Christ pose in downtown Manhattan
Thursday, April 28, 2005
Jesus in 2005 Anno Domini
By Nick_NYC at 8:03 AM
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So 2000+ years after the antichrist of atheists died, we still speak of a man from the Middle East as if he is alive, alive anyway in the hearts and minds of every good atheist-hating christian. I remember days growing up in Hawai'i when I heard nary a peep about this historic figure, but remember whisperings that when he took off from the Middle East he had moved to America, to be where his future people would live.
I do think that christian missionaries and non-christians (who choose hell over believing in Jesus or the God of Jesus), often ponder, how horrible/great it would be too not know of Christ. Again many christian church-goers have heard of these places that exist that know not of God or Jesus Christ, and by christian I mean not Catholic and American and a Christian, (one of my pastor's words, not mine).
So a ponderous question that is often not spoken of in the many debates about American Christiandom, who would you curse if you didn't know God? Would you have a different Lord to take the name of, in vain? What would you celebrate in December? Who would you accept into your heart? If you killed people in distant lands, who would you say it was for?
The questions go on and on.
So low and behold, mockers of Jesus, appear in America as an ironic reminder that the spirit of Jesus has stretched or moved out of the small place of his birth, to lands that used to not know of such a man, or even what he originally looked like. The latest being an anti-war protest in Astor Place, New York City. What next Jihadists for Jesus? If anything this incident reported Wednesday, has people thinking, if anything, something for the Crhistians to think about, who might value Christianity as it was meant to be by it's founders, what would Jesus think of the wars waged today?
In Astor Place, Cube is Gone, But Good Times Remain
Wednesday, April 27, 2005, by Lockhart
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Blogger Stuck in His Head sends along this photo from yesterday, writing, "There's nothing that says 'No War' like crucifying yourself in Astor Place." (Hey Bronstein, think you can top this?)
· New Visions for Astor Place [Curbed]
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Anti-War Symbolic Crucifixion
Posted by Orin in News, People, New York City, Manhattan | April 27th, 2005
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an anti-war activist standing on traffic signal pole in Astor Place. A sign attached to the pole read, “WAR?” and on his chest was written “All American.” The “ONE WAY” signs were changed to read, “NO WAR.”
Apparently he stayed up there for almost two hours before the NYPD took him down.
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NYC Indymedia
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Wednesday, April 27, 2005
Jesus Christ Action Astor Place
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Jesus Christ Action Astor Place, originally uploaded by Green Biker.
Thanks to Fred Askew, street action photographer extraodinaire, we are able to witness yet another artistic powerful protest of one individual taking matters into his own hands. Yes that is a real person who decided to protest war by dressing up as Jesus and climbing on top of a street lamp post for all of Lower Manhattan to see. Around his waste is an American flag as his swaddling cloth and above his head is a small sign that says, "War?" This makes me think of the advertisement one automaker tried to come up with to infuse our savior in its marketing campaign by posing the simple question..."what car would jesus drive?" Makes you wonder in this age of oil war and enviromental destruction due to the automobile exactly what car would he drive? Or would the baredoot healer of the sick just walk or better ride a bicycle. Then you have to ask if we're going to bring Christ into all this, what would he think about going to war for oil? What country would Jesus bomb in our brand new crusade to fight the Turks?
I think it was a nice symbolic action. Props to the artist and props to Fred Askew taking the photos and putting them up on Indymedia...
also constantly check for great timely photos of everything New York.
Speaking of taking maters into their own hands...
Full Version: Astor Place NYC Crucifixion Protest Yesterday
The Randi Rhodes Show > Message Forums > Activism
swordofcallisto
Apr 27 2005, 10:38 AM
I heard that yesterday 4/26 that there was a protester who "crucified" themselves in the middle of Astor Place (by the big cube) for over an hour yesterday.
It was a mock crucifixion, with a thorned crown of dollar bills.
The point was against Bush and the war.
He was arrested for disorderly conduct (I think) and resistance to arrest. Crowds of people were screaming that he did not resist arrest and hundreds took photos and home video.
Some might contest on his behalf that he did not resist arrest.
This is a very dramatic protest and I want to know more.
I was only blocks away and had no idea this was going on. If I had, I surely would have rushed over to see for myself.
Any links?
Who was this guy?
Any photos?
JordyMJohnson
Apr 27 2005, 10:40 AM
Wow, some people are so creative and corageous.
that's so NY
New York City has it's own unique energy that's continually pouring out all around you. shots like this flip us out cuz they just speak to the crazy energy that abounds in this city we love... from Curbed today... In Astor Place, Cube is Gone, But Good Times Remain
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this fantastic photo was sent to Curbed by Stuck in His Head, who included this note "There's nothing that says 'No War' like crucifying yourself in Astor Place." (dude, you rule!)
Update: the Gothamist has an awesome photo and story on the protester's arrest!
Posted on April 27, 2005 in Word on the Street | Permalink
Thursday, May 19, 2005
Iraq War Activist Stages Jesus Crucifixion
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"As a protest against the U.S. war in Iraq, Eric Wallach staged his own crucifixion at the Astor Pl. traffic triangle at Lafayette St. To crucify himself Wallach climbed on top of a crossing-signal sign and hung there about two hours. Passersby snapped cellphone photos of him near a altered one-way sign reading “No War.” When onlookers began to crowd the island, police moved them off and three officers took Wallach down, put him on a backboard and loaded him into a police vehicle. Wallach, who also goes by the moniker Radical Jew 33, is a freelance theater artist and self-described provocateur. “I just can’t stand the war,” he said."
Click each picture for two different links to the story...
Nice idea. I especially like the American flag nappy he's wearing. Could this be the ultimate modern American-Christian symbiosis? Images of urban Jesuses strutting their stuff down anti-war catwalks across the globe spring into my mind. Messiah chic is so in this season.
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