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MIRROR

Subject: Re: Droopy Mirror, 6/28/98

From: falcon@ (Tom Pultz)

The mirror removes from the OUTSIDE of the car. Just one bolt holds it on. Fold the mirror out of the way and there is an allen bolt in the base. Before you do this you should remove the moveable mirror portion so you can get at the wiring connector. The mirror itself attaches to the motor assembly with a bayonet type fitting. From the bottom, just behind the mirror is a ring that you move to unlock the mirror and then pull it off. It might be hard to remove as it is (I think) sealed with a sticky tape to keep water out of the motor assembly.

Fixing the spring is a PITA. Yours might be broken. Gotta run, write me if you have more questions...

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Subject: Re: Power Mirrors, 2/17/99L

From: "Hal Rumenapp" rumenapp@

The mirror comes off by inserting a screwdriver in a small slot at the center/base of the mirror and sliding a plastic "catch" (not sure left or right). This will allow you to remove the mirror glass. Then you remove 3 bolts, and the motor will come loose. Now you have to take the pins out of the plastic connector so that you can eventually push the wire down through the hole in the mirror housing. Now take a hex wrench and push the mirror assembly forward so that you can see a small hex head bolt in the base of the mirror. Unscrew this bolt, and the entire mirror assembly will come loose. Now carefully push the wires down through the mirror housing and the housing will separate from the door! Be sure to either mark where the wires go, or refer to the workshop manual for the wiring positions in the connector.

Subject: RE: Power mirror removal, 2/18/99L

From: Nicholas Mark Yardy ny384388@oak.cats.ohiou.edu

This is fairly straightforward. Rotate the mirror housing all the way forward, ie back of mirror up against the car. There is a allen bolt in the mounting base. With the removal of that the mirror should be very loose. On the front part of the mounting plate is a hook to hold the front of the mirror down. Just lift the back end of the mirror and remove it. Do not forget about the wires though. There is a small circular plug in there that needs to be disconected. Now here is where I cannot remember. I cannot remember if I had to remove the mirror and black housing to get to the plug. This must be a sign I work to much and do not play enough. Hope this helps.

Subject: Re: Mirror wiring removal, 2/19/99L

From: "Hal Rumenapp" rumenapp@

DO NOT CUT the plug off! You'll only open yourself up for trouble later and there is no need to! Go to the local Hobby shop and get a piece of I believe 1/8" brass tubing. It cost me $0.69 cents! Then take a grinder to one end of it and remove about 1/2 the diameter of the tube. You will need to grind from the tip back about 3/8". This is a very cheap way to get the pins out of the plastic connector. Simply insert the tube around each pin and push/pull/twist while pulling on the pin from the backside of the connector. Again, the most important issue is reconnecting the pins into the right place later!

Subject: Re: Mirror Removal, 3/21/99L

From: thomas.pultz@ (Tom Pultz)

Press in the mirror glass at the bottom. Then turn and unlock the bayonet retaining ring with a small screwdriver inserted through the hole in the housing. Unlock the ring by moving the screwdriver handle towards the left... so that the retaining ring is moved counter clockwise. You don't "turn" the screwdriver, you just use is as a little pry bar with the tip inserted in between the little grooves in the bayonet lock ring. The flat blade of the screwdriver should be lined up in the fore and aft direction. After the ring is unlocked you can pull of the mirror.

Subject: Re: Fixin' Driver's Side Mirror, 5/7/99L

From: Wes Shew schumi@vcn.bc.ca

>I've been driving for way too long with my driver's side mirror shaking. I >know what's wrong. The hollow bolt has come loose. I have taken the entire >thing apart with no problem, but can not screw that particular bolt back in.

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BTDT, the spring’s pressure makes it difficult to screw back in. I took a large flathead screwdriver and pushed into the hollow of the bolt while turning. Or you can also try removing one of the white plastic spacers (the thinner one) to relieve some of the pressure off of the spring. YMMV

Subject: Re: Fixin' Driver's Side Mirror, 5/8/99L

From: "Ed Repnicki" repnicki@

I had the same problem a number of years ago. The mechanic could not do it. I was a little larger then he, and had to make a number of attempts. You need to lean into it with your body weight and make sure you wrap a towel around it, just in case you slip! It can be done. Just get someone over 200 lbs. to help!

Subject: EASY side view mirror fix, 5/11/99L

From: "Ken White Jr." Oafey@

Today I took the time to fix my side view. I followed the Haynes directions to remove the mirror. Then, I decided to cut the wires (removed the white plastic part that the wires connect into.) So I got the entire housing off the car. I pulled out the spring and removed a washer that was located at the top end of the spring. With out the wires in my way it made it MUCH easier to screw my half stripped bolt in. After it screwed in (took me all of 10 seconds to do the actual screwing), I simply put the wires back together and then the rest of the mirror. Works perfect! Anyone having this problem should definitely go this route. The entire process took me 15 mins!

SubjectSubject: Mirror Gasket Found, 5/17/99L

From: "Kyle Starkey" KSTARKEY@

For those of you still looking for the elusive Mirror Gasket that stops your car from making howling noises, I have found a supplier. I just got off the phone with Parts Heaven in Oakland California and the guy said he could get them and they were $5.50 a piece. I ordered a set and he said they would be to me by Wednesday.

Parts Heaven #1-800-767-7250

Part # 944.731.143.00

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Zims also has them for about $3.69 each.

Subject: Outside rearview mirror, 8/22/99 951

From: "Rich Ryan" rcryan@

I decided to remove my headlight covers, nose panel and side mirrors for repainting. While the nose panel and headlight covers are straightforward, I thought I'd share my experience with the mirrors. I needed a combination of the list archive and a quick call to my mechanic to put the puzzle together to remove the side mirrors.

Remove mirror glass and motor/drive unit from mirror housing

1. Push on top of mirror to expose 4-5 teeth of lock ring behind the glass

2. Use flat bladed screwdriver and rotate ring counter clockwise (when looking at the mirror face)

3. Remove three bolts that hold drive unit to mirror housing

4. Disconnect six-pin plug

Remove mirror housing from door

1. Record position and color code of six wires and jumpers

2. Use needle nose pliers and Allen wrench inside socket to push 6 connector pins out of socket (carefully but forcefully)

3. Pivot mirror to expose mirror retaining bolthole, remove plastic cover and bolt

4. Pull wires with attached pins out of mirror housing

Subject: Re: removing mirrors? 12/27/99L

From: "Claus Groth" bora450@

Mike wrote:

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Funny that you are asking about the mirrors today because I removed mine from an ’86 951 few hours ago. There is a connector behind the mirror motor. To access it, first push the bottom of the mirror as far in as possible. Look up from underneath the mirror housing using a flashlight and you will see some plastic teeth. You need to insert a flat blade screwdriver through the hole and move them to the right. It is difficult to notice that the teeth have moved. I suggest a dot of Whiteout on one tooth beforehand. Once you know that the teeth have moved, pry on the edge of the mirror to loosen and remove it. (If the mirror has not been loosened, you will break it.) Remove the three screws, 8mm I think, and remove the motor assembly. Unplug the connector. As you will see, the harness connector will not fit through the mirror housing pedestal. The Workshop Manual shows removing the connector pins from the housing using a special tool. I tried to remove them with extremely small screwdrivers, without success.

So I resorted to Plan B! I cut the mirror wire harness about three inches from where it joins the main harness in the door. This will provide sufficient room to splice the wires later.

Subject: RE: Side mirror replacement glass, 8/6/02

From: "Darrell Dieringer" Porsche944@

Mine had come unglued and crashed to the ground, too. I looked in Tweeks and saw the replacement was something like $100. Then I called "Auto Glass Specialists" - I think they are a national chain, but they might only be a regional Midwest thing.

They had it for $45, which included the installation. I don't know what they used for an adhesive, but it has been on for about a month now and about four-thousand miles (sun / rain / car wash, etc).

There was one snag, though. The 944 glass (according to their part book) was the wrong size. We had to get the 928 glass to fit my car. It is possible, I suppose, that a previous owner had put the 928 mirror housings on my 944. I don't know how to tell one way or the other.

My point, have whoever orders the replacement part measure the mirror and compare it to the measurements in their part book. In my case, the mirror they had for the 928 fits absolutely perfectly.

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