Volusia County, Florida



GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. TODAY'S DATE IS JUNE 16, 2016. THIS IS THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION . I WILL BE TO THE DISCLOSURE.The Volusia County Council welcomes your involvement and is interested in hearing your comments. Please complete a public participation slip and indicate in the subject line the issue your wish to address. You may use the back if necessary. After you are recognized by the County Chair, state your name and address for the record before beginning your comments. You may speak up to three minutes, either during Public Participation or when an agenda item is heard. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM, YOU CAN SPEAK DURING THOSE ITEMS OR, YOU CAN SPEAK NOW. BUT YOU DO NOT GET 2 The County Council will not BITES AT THE APPLE. I WANTED TO answer questions or requests CLARIFY THAT.during Public Participation. Please be courteous and respectful of the views of others. Personal attacks on Council members, County staff or members of the public are not allowed.

WE HAVE 3 THIS MORNING. IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY MATTER, PLEASE THE VOUCHER SLIP AND GET IT TO MS. ZIMMERMAN.

LARRY McCRAY -- IS THAT USER ?

HEY, WE HAVE THE SPEED LIMIT IN HERE.[ LAUGHTER ]GOOD MORNING .

AND YOU GET UP TO THOSE MICROPHONES TEXT

MY NAME IS LARRY McCRAY I RESIDE AT 450 LAUREL RIDGE 450 LAUREL RIDGE WAY.

IN A BUILDING JUST BUILT FOR THE SENIORS AND HANDICAP. MY TALK THIS MORNING IS CONCERNING THE HANDICAP PARKING THAT WE HAVE AT OUR BUILDINGS. WE HAVE 80 RESIDENTS. AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT GOES ACCORDING TO A PERCENTAGE OF OCCUPANCY THAT GIVES A PERCENTAGE OF THE HANDICAP PARKING. WE HAVE 80 UNITS . WITH A -- WITH 80 8010 . WE ONLY HAVE 4 HANDICAP SPOTS . IT IS VERY HARD FOR SENIORS TO WALK 35-40 YARDS TO TRY TO GET INTO THE BUILDING. ONCE WE GET TO OUR BUILDING, WE DO NOT HAVE SLIDING DOORS . OUR THING IS, WE WANT TO REQUEST IF IT IS ACCORDING TO THE GUIDELINES, MORE HANDICAP PARKING. WE HAVE TOO FAR TO COME TO THE BUILDING. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST FROM THE CITY. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS MORNING. I DO NOT WANT TO IS THE COUNCILS TIME OR MY TIME. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU ALLOWED ME TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU SIR. YOU LIVE ON LAUREL RIDGE WAY. THAT IS IN THE CITY OF THE LAND -- DELAND . WE MAY HAVE TO DIRECTION OVER TO THE CITY. WE WILL FIND OUT WHO YOU NEED TO TALK TO GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER. BY THE WAY, THIS IS NOT A WASTE OF OUR TIME.

THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT .

WE WILL MOVE ON. MR. THOMAS REDMOND . AND AFTER MR. THOMAS REDMOND WILL BE [ INDISCERNIBLE NAME ] . IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ON ANY ITEM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND GET IT TO MS. SILVERMAN. -- MS. ZIMMERMAN. >> MY NAME IS THOMAS REDMOND, I LIVE AT 116103 IN ORLANDO FLORIDA .

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY STATING WE HAVE A SERIOUS SHORTAGE

AND FAMILY SHELTER SERVICES. AS A HOMELESS ADVOCATE I FULLY SUPPORT HAVING MORE BEDS IN A FAMILY SHELTER. UNFORTUNATELY SINCE THIS HOMELESS THING HAS STARTED A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT HAVE NOT EXACTLY BEEN GOOD, WE HAVE LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE. WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO THREATENED VIA EMAIL 26 THE CITY ATTORNEY ON YOU.

WE PAID A HOMELESS CONSULTANT $185,000 TO GIVE US A REPORT THAT WERE NOT USING WITH FAKE DATA. THE COMMISSIONERS HUSBAND IN DAYTONA OWNED THE WEB ADDRESS THAT SHE IS SUPPOSEDLY VOTING ON. THERE ARE SO MANY IMPROPRIETIES HAPPENING. WE HAVE HAD LETTERS WRITTEN TO THE CITY FROM THE NATIONAL COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS THAT WAS PROVIDED EVERYONE AT THE STAGE. THERE ARE SO MANY WRONG THINGS HAPPENING. I HAVE HAD TO DO SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO TO RAISE ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE. THE REASON I AM HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST NIGHT THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN, COMMISSIONER KELLY WHITE RECUSED HERSELF FROM AN ISSUE DEALING WITH LAND. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT IS A RESULT OF THIS COMMISSION OF ETHICS COMPLAINT THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS INVESTIGATING. I WANT IT VERY CLEAR , THAT I HAVE TRIED FOR TWO YEARS TO GET ANYONE TO LOOK AT THIS FACTUALLY AND STOP PROVIDING MONEY TO AGENCIES THAT DO NOT PERFORM . NOT A THING I HAVE EVER SAID HAS BEEN CHALLENGED. PEOPLE VILIFY ME. THEY DO NOT SAY, YES THERE ARE 5000 HOMELESS PEOPLE IN HERE IS THE PROOF. THEY SAY, HE IS CRAZY. IT'S NO LONGER TIME TO COME TO YOUR MEETINGS ANY LONGER. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THIS IS OUT OF MY HANDS. AND FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF BOTH COUNCILS, THAT ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING, THIS WILL BE IN YOUR MAILBOX SOON. HAVE A NICE DAY . >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THIS MORNING ?

NO SIR.

THEN WE WOULD TAKE A RECESS AND WE WILL COME BACK AT 9 AM. WE ARE IN RECESS. >> [ EVENT IN RECESS UNTIL 9:00 AM EST. CAPTIONER STANDING BY ] >> GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WE DO HAVE A FULL HOUSE. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE IS HERE. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE TWO MINUTES -- IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THE CHAMBER COME TO ORDER ? TODAY'S DATE IS JUNE 16, 2016. AND THIS IS THE 9 AM VOLUSIA COUNCIL MEETING. AT THIS TIME, EVERYONE REACH OVER, GRAB YOUR CELL PHONE AND PLEASE, PUT IT ON SILENT. I WILL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO DO THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUE.

PHOTOGRAPHING IS PERMITTED IN THE CHAMBERS.

GOOD MORNING. IN THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE PRESENTED TO US BY PASTURE BEEN BROWN OF TOMOKA CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN ORMOND BEACH . IF THE COUNCIL WILL PLEASE RISE .

IF I CAN GIVE EVERYONE TO CLOSE THEIR EYES AND BOW THEIR HEADS. FATHER,

AND THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US SUCH GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE YOU. BUT ALSO TO SERVE OTHERS. PLUS EACH MIND AND EACH HEART IN HERE TODAY . ALLOW THE PURPOSE AND THE IDEAS AND THE REASONS FOR BEING HERE TO BE ABOUT THOSE WHO HAVE NO VOICE. WE THINK THIS GREAT COUNSEL FOR REPRESENTING ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY AND WE THINK THESE PEOPLE TODAY WHO HAVE COME TO DISCUSS AND SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE TO THE GLORY OF GOD.

FATHER, LET US BE CALLED THE PRODUCTIVE. WE THANK YOU FOR A VICTORY IN THE LIVES OF MANY AND FOR THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO HAVE NO VOICE. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. >> AND WILL EVERYONE JOIN ME "I pledge allegiance to the AS WE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." >> PLEASE BE SEATED.

AND PASTOR , CAN YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD .

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE INTERNET THAT ARE NOT WATCHING US ON OUR CLOSED-CIRCUIT TV, THIS IS A PACKED ROOM. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET, AND NOT HAVE A CHAIR, WE DO HAVE OUR TRAINING ROOM IT IS SET UP FOR OVERFLOW. IF SOMEONE IS TO SIT DOWN, YOU CAN WATCH IS ON THE MONITOR DOWN THERE. WE WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD

TO THE FULL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS -- I DID MISS A ROLL CALL THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. >> MR. WAGNER ? MS. CUSACK ? MR. DANIELS ? MR. LOWRY ? MR. PATTERSON ? MR. DAVIS ?

MS. DENYS?

EVERYONE IS ALL HERE. STAFF IS PULLING ITEMS . >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM 25. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT IS WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. ITEM 25 IS PULLED BY DEBORAH DENYS. SO ITEM 8, 11, 12, 15 AND 25 HAVE BEEN PULLED.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE REMAINING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. A SECOND ? THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION ? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY AYE . MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE. >> AS YOU KNOW OUR CHARTER WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS IN JUNE 1970. IT STARTED JANUARY 1971. IT REQUIRES THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO BE APPOINTED TO REVIEW THE CHARTER EVERY 10 YEARS TO SEE IF ANY UPGRADES NEED TO BE MADE. THAT REQUIREMENT WAS FOLLOWED THIS LAST YEAR. THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT, MYSELF AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WENT TO ALL OF THE MEETINGS. MR. BROWN WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUES THAT THEY WILL BRING FORWARD AND THE RECOMMENDATION. WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS MR. DONALD BUTLER . THEY WILL GO THROUGH WHAT THE PROCESSES WERE. THERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION APPROVED. AND IS ASKING TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT. AS YOU KNOW YOU OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU CANNOT CHANGE ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PUT THEM ON THE BALLOT FOR THE VOTE OF THE PUBLIC. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT AND TO ASK QUESTIONS. AFTER MR. BROWN IS DONE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL ALSO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS BEHIND THE RECOMMENDED CHARTER CHANGES.

GOOD MORNING. I AM DONNA BUTLER. I WILL START OUR OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS THAT OCCURRED. TODAY YOU HAVE MR. BROWN HERE. YOU APPOINTED 15 MEMBERS ON JULY 2. THEY HAVE DONE A FABULOUS JOB HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS EVERY MONTH. I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE OTHER STAFF -- MR. DINEEN GAVE US CREDIT AND HE WAS THERE RIGHT BESIDE US. COURTNEY BROWN, MS. KING. MS. SCOTT, AND WE COULD NOT HAVE HAD ANY OF THE MEETINGS WITHOUT JEFF CARLEY WHO IS HIDING.

HE IS BACK TO HIDING BEHIND THE CAMERA.

THE CHARTER IDENTIFIED THREE MAJOR TASK. ONE, REVIEW THE CHARTER FOR AMENDMENT, TOO, REVIEW THE OPERATIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND THREE, PREPARE AND DISTRIBUTE A FINAL REPORT. IN SEPTEMBER THE OFFICERS WERE ELECTED.

IT WAS DETERMINED AT THAT TIME THAT OUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER THAT THEY WOULD NOT DISCUSS ANY ITEMS WHICH ARE UNDER LITIGATION. THEY WOULD NOT HEAR THEM AND THERE WOULD BE NO DISCUSSION. IN OCTOBER, RULES AND PROCEDURES WERE ADOPTED. THIS INCLUDED COMMUNICATION CORRESPONDENCE AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

AFTER THAT WE WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND OFFERED SOME LISTENING SESSIONS TO GET ALL OF THE TIMEOUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE. WE WENT EVERYWHERE ACROSS THE COUNTY. VARIOUS LIBRARIES AND FACILITIES.

THEY GIVE US OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY -- COMMUNICATIONS VIA EMAIL. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS FROM INDIVIDUALS. WE INCLUDED ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE IN THE AGENDA THAT WE PRESENTED. IT WAS ALSO POSTED ONLINE WITH COMMENTS. WE WERE A LITTLE CREATIVE. WE CREAT IT I CREATED A THINK BOOK. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED , THAT THEY WANTED TO GO INTO MORE IN DEPTH, WE DID SO AT EVERY MEETING. EVERY MEETING WE FOCUSED ON A SPECIFIC AREA OF THE CHARTER. WE HAD A DIALOGUE DURING ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS. THERE WAS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ARTICLES WAS FULLY DISCUSSED AT THOSE MEETINGS. OF COURSE THE ITEM THAT HAD THE MOST DISCUSSION WAS SURE VOLUSIA MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. THEY HAD 22 PUBLIC MEETINGS THROUGH THAT. AND ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE MARKED IN YOUR BOOK. IT WAS APPARENT ,

-- AND MR. BROWN WILL GO IN DEPTH INTO WHAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS WERE.

WE HAVE THREE RECOMMENDED CHANGES . FIRST, FIRST IS A CLEANUP OF SOME LANGUAGE THAT WAS OUTDATED. SECONDLY IS A REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES INCURRED IN THE COUNTY BY THE COUNCIL PEOPLE WHICH ARE NOT BEING REIMBURSED. IN THE THIRD WOULD BE THAT THE AT-LARGE MEMBER WITH BECOME VICE CHAIR.

THOSE OF THE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO ON THE BALLOT. ALSO, WE DID A LOT OF WORK RELATIVE TO [ INDISCERNIBLE ] . AND BECAUSE OF THE GOODWILL , LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY WERE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER WITH A COMPROMISE THAT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE. I CONGRATULATE YOU ALL FOR THE WISDOM

FOR THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT YOU APPOINTED. THEY HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS MY REPORT. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS ON THIS ? NO. OKAY. >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP REPORT THAT GETS INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. PERIOD

I WILL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. TO BRIEFLY RUN THROUGH THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT MR. BROWN SPOKE ABOUT, JUST TO EXPLAIN WHY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THESE. THE CHARTER GROUP PROVIDES FOR YOU TO VOTE ON ALL MATTERS. THAT LANGUAGE PROCEEDED STATE LAW ON THIS ISSUE. IT IS NOW SOMEWHAT IN CONFLICT. THIS IS THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE ON ALL COUNSEL ACTIONS THAT IS PROVIDED BY STATE LAW.

TO BRIEFLY RUN THROUGH , THE CHARTER ACQUIRED INITIAL ADOPTION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. THERE ARE STILL SOME BEING AMENDED THAT REMAIN. WE DELETED LANGUAGE REGARDING THE INITIAL BOARD. BECAUSE THAT PROVISION LIVES ON APPERTAINS TO BOARD STILL IN EXISTENCE. THIS MAY BE OF SOME CONCERN TO THE VOTER. YOU ARE DELETING NONPARTISAN SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS. THAT WAS A CHARTER CHANGE IN 1994.

VOLUSIA LED THE REST OF THE STATE ON THAT ISSUE. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE SUB WHAT THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN AMENDED. SO THIS LANGUAGE IS DELETED, IN PART BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE ELECTIONS. THE ONLY REASON IT COMES OUT IS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW NOW HAS FOLLOWED THE LEAD OF OUR CITIZENS. THE TITLE OF THE PERSONNEL DIRECTOR HAS CHANGED HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. THE CHARTER CONTAINED A PROVISION FOR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATIVES. THIS WAS IN 1970 THAT THIS WAS A LEADING EDGE PROVISION. IT PROCEEDED THE LAW OF THE FERMENTATION OF THE RIGHT OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEES TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN. THE LEGAL CONCERN NOW IS, IT IS ONE OF THE CHARTER WITH CREATE AN EMPLOYER DOMINATED ORGANIZATION. THIS PROVISION HAS FALLEN INTO DISUSE FOR THAT REASON. EMPLOYEE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE THE REFERENCES TO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROVISION . THE PROVISIONS PROVIDED THE INITIAL ADOPTION HAVE BEEN FULFILLED.

THIS IS A PROVISION THAT HAD GREAT FORESIGHT. BUT IT IS NO LONGER NEEDED. IT ALLOWS THE COUNCIL TO MAINTAIN THE MILLEDGE AS REQUIRED. AND ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO ADJUST MILLEDGE IS. THOSE DISTRICTS INCLUDED THE MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT AND THE POSITIVELY ON SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT YOU ARE NOW THE GOVERNING BODY OF THOSE DISTRICTS. THAT LANGUAGE IS NO LONGER NEEDED. THAT LANGUAGE CONTAINED A BOND ISSUE IS NO LONGER NEEDED. BECAUSE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN PAID. THE CHARTER CONTAINS -- IT REPEALED A NUMBER OF INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICTS. AND TO PROVIDE A MORE READABLE DOCUMENT AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION, THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN DELETED. THE ONE POSITIVE INSERTION IN HERE IS TO ADD A RULE THAT THE COMMON LAW RULE OF SURVIVAL BY IMPLEMENTATION DOES NOT APPLY. SO THAT THOSE SPECIAL DISTRICTS DO NOT COME BACK INTO EXISTENCE. THIS FOLLOWS A MODEL OF THE STATUTE THAT PROVIDES THAT THE COMMON-LAW BREW OF REVIVAL DOES NOT APPLY. WE HAVE RENUMBERED A NUMBER OF SECTIONS. WE HAVE DELETED REFERENCES TO THE HALIFAX ADVERTISING TAX DISTRICT. ONLY THOSE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR SOME TIME WILL REMEMBER THAT. AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A SPECIAL AT PROVIDING FOR A TAX FOR ADVERTISING. THAT IS NOW IN THE LOBBY. -- NOW IN A LEVY. THE AUTHORITY TO LEVY THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED. FINALLY, IN THIS AMENDMENT , THE CHARTER PROVIDED THE ABILITY TO AMEND THE SPECIAL ACTS PERTAINING TO THE PORT AUTHORITY AND TO THE MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT. AND YOU HAVE DONE SO AND BECOME THE GOVERNING BODY OF THOSE. THE ONE CHANGE HERE IS THAT, THIS IS HENCEFORTH, THAT THE COUNCIL WILL REMAIN THE GOVERNING BODY OF THOSE. SO WE MIGHT AMEND THEM IN OTHER RESPECTS BUT NOT CREATE ANOTHER INDEPENDENT BODY. MOVING ON TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT, THIS PROVIDES FOR EXPENSES WHICH MOST MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE THINK THAT YOU ARE ALREADY RECEIVING. IT MAY COME AS A SURPRISE TO THEM

THAT YOU DO NOT RECEIVE IN COUNTY MILEAGE. THIS WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO ADOPT PROCEDURES WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH REIMBURSEMENT . THE EXPENSES WHICH MIGHT BE AUTHORIZED BY THIS ARE IN COUNTY MILEAGE, PARKING AND SIMILAR CONFERENCE AND TRAINING CDS. -- TRAINING FEES . THIS MIGHT ALLOW YOU TO ADVANCE -- TO PAY ADMISSION . BECAUSE THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT PROVIDING YOU A MEAL. THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT ARE CUSTOMARILY PROVIDED FOR EMPLOYEES . THE CHARTER PROVIDES YOU CANNOT BE REIMBURSED FOR ANY COUNTY INSTANCES. THIS ALLOWS YOU A MECHANISM TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT.

THIS SECTION DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE PROVISION OF A VEHICLE FOR YOU. THIS HAS TO DO WITH REIMBURSEMENT OF COUNTY EXPENSES. WITH THE SIZE OF THIS COUNTY, THE EXPENSES HAVE BECOME BURDENSOME. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO APPEAR IN A LOT OF PLACES. AND YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE GAS . LASTLY, THE THIRD AMENDMENT IS SO THAT THE MEMBER AT LARGE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BECOME THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COUNTY COUNSEL INSTEAD OF THE BODY ELECTING ITS VICE-CHAIRMAN. THAT IS THE BACKGROUND OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. THE FILTERED THROUGH A LOT OF OTHER IDEAS. IN THESE MOSTLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF. THEY MAY BE A BIT TRITE BUT THEY ARE IMPORTANT.

ONE LAST COMMENT FROM ME.

I WANT TO THANK THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME FROM THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE AND UNDERSTOOD HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS. I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I CAME AND OFFERED THIS JOB IS BECAUSE OF THE CHARTER. AND WHILE IT REQUIRES A REVIEW

IT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS A WHOLESALE CHANGE. THERE WERE A FEW CHANGES THAT BODES WELL FOR THE CHARTER. EACH YEAR IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER. AND THERE'S A POINT AT WHICH THE FUNDAMENTAL SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED. I WANT TO THANK THE REVIEW COMMISSION TO GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY. I RECOMMENDED ONE CHANGE. AND THAT WAS FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL. AND THAT WAS THAT PEOPLE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO BE IN FIRST -- REIMBURSED FOR THEIR EXPENSES. I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THAT IT MADE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND I THINK MR. BROWN IS HERE TO GET THE OVERVIEW.

OVERVIEW, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ? [ LAUGHTER ]

MR. BROWN I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON THAT I LIKE TO -- THAT I LIKED YOU.

UNLESS THERE IS FURTHER STAFF REPORTING, WE WILL CLOSE THE STAFF REPORTING SESSION. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ?

NO SIR .

REALLY ? I AM SURPRISED. WE MUST HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB HERE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. MS.DENYS ?

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU MR. BROWN AND THE ENTIRE COMMISSION. THEY SAY SUCCESSES WHEN NOT EVERYONE GETS THEIR WAY. AND I WOULD SAY THAT IS TRUE. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE CHANGES. THIS IS NO PRIVATE MATTER THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO SEE IT GO AWAY COMPLETELY. THIS IS HOUSEKEEPING. AND A PROCEDURAL CONVERSATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DID AND THE REDUNDANCY OF THE STRIKERS. SOMETIMES IS NOT WHAT WE VOTE THROUGH BUT WHAT WE TAKE OUT AS WELL. THAT BODES WELL. THERE ARE MORE STRIKEOUTS AND ADDITIONS. THAT IS ALWAYS GOOD IN A BUREAUCRACY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK VOLUSIA WILL BE WELL SERVED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MS. CUSACK ?

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. TO THE COUNTY STAFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. AND KEEPING THIS TOGETHER. YOU ARE THE GLUE THAT HELD THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR EXCELLENT. AND THAT YOU RECOMMENDED TO SERVE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. AND FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY TO EACH PERSONS WHO SERVED ON THE REVIEW, HOW DARE YOU GIVE UP YOUR TIME AND TALENT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF GOVERNMENT.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. WE HAVE EMERGED WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENT. AND I HOPE THAT THE CITIZENS WILL LOOK INTO THESE CHANGES AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF THEM IN AS MUCH AS IT CAN ONLY MAKE US BETTER.

ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU CROSSED EVERY TEA AND DOTTED EVERY EYE. AND MY SINCERE THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MR. DANIELS ?

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK I AM THE ONLY ONE UP HERE WHO HAS SERVED ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. HAS ANYONE ELSE DONE THAT ? I DID IT 20 YEARS AGO. THAT SHOWS HOW OLD I AM. THAT SHOULD NOT SURPRISE ANYONE HERE. LOOK AT THE COLOR OF MY HAIR. IT IS A LOT OF WORK. IT TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME. THERE ARE A LOT OF MEANINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO. ANYONE WHO DOES THIS IS TO BE CONGRATULATED. YOU PUT IN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THOUGHT TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND WHAT WOULD MAKE IT BUT BETTER. I AM PROUD OF ALL OF YOU FOR DOING IT. IT WAS A GOOD GROUP. AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING IT. AND I THANK YOU FOR GIVING YOUR TIME.

MR. WAGNER ?

EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID OTHER THAN A PERSONAL THANK YOU. IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEND US SOMETHING THAT I HAD NO VOTE ON. IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE IT WOULD GO. I RESPECT THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HAS -- THAT HAS BEEN DONE. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME. THIS IS A FASCINATING PROCESS. I LOVE TO WATCH GOVERNMENT IN ACTION. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING I HAVE ENJOYED ALL OF THESE YEARS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OWN CONSTITUTION, LIKE MR. DINEEN SAID, IT'S THERE TO MAKE CHANGES BUT IT IS A SLOW PROCESS. AND IT NEEDS NOT TO BE QUICK. IN THESE TO BE THOUGHTFUL. I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A THOUGHTFUL JOB IN COMING UP WITH THESE CHANGES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A SPECIAL THANKS TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS. I GUESS IT GOES TO SHOW HOW GOOD OF A JOB WE HAVE DONE . WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE HERE CHOMPING AT THE BIT SAYING HOW BAD WE ARE. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. LOOKING OVER THE DATA AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH. IT IS UP TO THE VOTERS OF VOLUSIA COUNTY. I THINK IT IS A GREAT DOCUMENT. IT IS A GREAT FLUID DOCUMENT. HOW MANY MORE MEANINGS TO BE HAVE ?

TWO MEETINGS. AND I WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA .

AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE VOTERS AND THE GENERAL ELECTION. CHILDREN AND BABIES I COMMEND YOU. AND WHAT MORE CAN WE SAY BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH ? WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE OUR ITEM NUMBER ONE IN OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND OPEN UP ITEM NUMBER TWO.

OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING. STAFF REPORT, IN PERTAINING TO -- HOLD ON . OKAY. WE WERE JUST GOING OVER AGAIN THE ORDER THAT WE ARE DOING ALL THIS. PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS IN PREFERENCE TO -- REFERENCED TO CASE-Z-16-038 , REZONING FROM THE URBAN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CLASSIFICATION TO PUBLIC USE CLASSIFICATION. THE OWNER IS THE VOLUSIA COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. MR. DINEEN ? >> THIS ISSUE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY WHICH IS PUBLIC REZONING OF PROPERTY THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD OWNED IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. AND WITH THE YOUTH BEING FOR EMERGENCY AND TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT STARTED BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR. I GOT INVOLVED IN THE EARLY PART OF 2015 WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR GROUP THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO LOOK AT THIS. THE IDEA CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THAT. IN THE LAST YEAR, THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED TO GET LEGS. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT IS THERE A POTENTIAL ? IF YOU REMEMBER , ENOUGH DISCUSSION TOOK PLACE AND ENOUGH INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY

THAT BOTH YOU AND THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TOOK A TOUR OF THE PROPERTY. THAT WAS WAY BACK IN NOVEMBER 2015. WE WENT THROUGH AND THE TO THE PROPERTY . THERE WAS TALK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE. VISIONS. THE WHOLE DISCUSSION ON THE IDEA OF HELPING HOMELESS PEOPLE HAS GONE ON IN THE WHOLE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS. IT HAS REFOCUSED ITSELF. TO SAY THAT NOT ALL OF THESE GROUPS HAVE SIMILAR NEEDS AND BACKGROUNDS.

AND WE GRAVITATED TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE PROCESS , THAT FELL INTO HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE LOSS OF JOB, ILLNESS OR WHATEVER. WE ARE IN TRANSITION. WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH WE WERE APPALLED AT WAS HOW MANY KIDS WE HAVE IN SCHOOL WERE HOMELESS. AND OUT OF THAT IDEA THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS THAT ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL. AS YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA STARTED TO CULMINATE IN BEING ABLE TO USE THE SURPLUS SCHOOL TO DO WITH THAT POPULATION WHICH IN SOME CASES HAVE THE GREATEST NEEDS FOR BEING THE HOUSE. AFTER THAT MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WHICH YOU HAD FOR, A SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS THAT WENT ON IN THE PUBLIC IN A SERIES OF ARTICLES. ALL THE WAY THROUGH FROM DECEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY . THAT CULMINATED IN THE MARCH 3 MEETING WHERE WE WORKED OUT A CONTRACT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO TAKE OVER THE SURPLUS PROPERTY. WE PAY THEM $200,000 FOR THE VALUE OF THE LAND. ON MARCH 15, THE VOLUSIA SCHOOL BOARD AGREED TO THAT CONTRACT. AND THEY MOVED FORWARD. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THAT HAPPEN. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY. IN THE PROCESS, THERE WAS A NEED TO HAVE THIS POTENTIAL REZONING. I'M GOING TO HAVE MISS KELLY TJ McGHEE STEP FORWARD. AND TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER SHE IS DONE WITH THAT, BECAUSE THERE WERE ISSUES RAISE THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE ZONING BUT APPURTENANT TO THE ISSUES, SHE WILL WALK THROUGH -- THIS IS CUMBERSOME -- SHE WILL WALK-THROUGH DOCUMENTS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IF THE COUNCIL WILL RESULT. YOU CANNOT TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE FEARS THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THE ZONING. TO SAY THAT THE ZONING CAN BE SUCH THAT YOU CAN LIMIT WITHIN THE ZONING CERTAIN USES IS NOT TRUE. THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT BY CONTRACT. THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THE ZONING DECISION. THAT IS ALSO WHY, SOME OF THE THINGS ARE FLAWED WHEN YOU HAVE THESE KIND OF PUBLIC USES. WHILE A NUMBER OF THINGS CAME UP DURING THE HEARING, THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS IF THE COUNCIL DOES THE REZONING, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE [ INDISCERNIBLE ] . AND WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE COMMENTS CAME UP AND WE ARE WILLING TO DEAL WITH THEM, WE HAVE HAD A PLAN TO DEAL WITH THEM. I WANT TO ASSURE PEOPLE THAT IT WAS NOT BECAUSE WE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ISSUES WOULD NOT COME FORWARD. AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GENUINE FEARS. WE KNEW THIS COULD HAPPEN. WE HAVE ALREADY ANTICIPATED IN THE OTHER DOCUMENTS SHOULD THE COUNSELOR TO THE REZONING TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PROTECTIONS FOR PEOPLE. SO WHAT WE WILL SEE IS, -- NOT ONLY WILL WE ADDRESS THEM, AND WE HAD PLANNED ON ADDRESSING THEM BEFORE THESE ISSUES WERE RAISED.

MR. CHAIR . I AM KELLY TJ McGHEE. THE ITEM THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR OVERHEAD TODAY CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 2 -- 18 ON YOUR AGENDA ITEM. THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO BE ZONE OF FORMER SCHOOL SITE FROM R-4 TO PUBLIC USE CLASSIFICATION. THE PROPERTY CAN BE USED FOR PUBLIC AND SOCIAL SERVICE PURPOSES. AFTER EVALUATING THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST OF THE SONY NEEDS TO SPECIFY CRITERIA AS SET FORTH IN YOUR CODE OF REZONING. THOSE PROVISIONS CAN BE FOUND ALSO IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM ITEMIZED WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT. STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY FORWARD THIS REQUEST FOR REZONING TO COUNTY COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. AND WHEN IT CAME TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS WERE MET. AND THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICATION -- PARTICIPATION IN APRIL. THIS RESULTED IN A COMMUNITY MEETING. AND THE COMMISSION

BROUGHT THIS ISSUE BACK BEFORE THEM ON MAY 10. WHERE THERE WAS ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL TO REZONE THE PROPERTY. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED AS THE MANAGER SAID, THEY WILL BE ADDRESSING. ONE THAT CAME UP WHICH I CAN SUBMIT IT TO THE RECORD WITH THE PRESSURE OF TROUBLE WITH OUR PUBLIC PROPERTIES IN R-4 CURRENTLY . AND THEY FOUND ONE OF 600 FEET NORTH. AND THERE IS ANOTHER ONE APPROXIMATELY 1 MILE WEST. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF PUBLIC ZONING WITHIN THE R-4 CLASSIFICATION. AND THERE ARE MANY CLASS -- EXAMPLES IN THE COUNTY. I WILL GO AHEAD AND HANDLES UP.

BEFORE SHE STARTS, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRIES WHO HAS TO SIGN THESE CONTRACTS , THEY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS. CLEARLY, THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYONE BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD ENDANGER OR HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE RESTRICTIONS THAT SHE WILL TALK ABOUT , WERE GLADLY SUPPORTED BY HALIFAX PUBLIC MINISTRIES. THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE NEED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL POLICE. THE SHERIFF AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS. HE DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE ANY ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITH THIS FACILITY. BUT, THAT BEING THE CASE, TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE, WE TALKED AND I HAVE ASSURED HIM THAT ADEQUATE RESOURCES WILL BE AVAILABLE. HE CAN RUN ANY ADDITIONAL PATROLS THAT HE WANTS. HE WILL CLEARLY MONITOR THE SITUATION. HE HAS THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT AND WILL DO IT IF IT IS NECESSARY. WITH THAT --

GOOD MORNING. WHEN WE DO REZONING --

PLEASE IDENTIFY YOUR POSITION. >> WHEN GOVERNMENT REZONE FROM ONE CLASSIFICATION TO ANOTHER THOSE REZONING CANNOT BE CONDITIONED. YOU MAY NOT PROVIDE CRITERIA BY WHICH THE PROPERTY HAS TO MEET THAT IN ORDER TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. REZONING MUST BE FROM ONE CLASSIFICATION TO ANOTHER. AND THE ZONING CODE PATROLS THE USAGE. AND THEY ARE PROVIDED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT. THIS IS UNLIKE YOUR VARIANCES OR YOUR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.

WHERE YOU CAN PLACE CONDITIONS. HOWEVER AS A PROPERTY OWNER YOU MAY PLACE CONDITIONS WHEN YOU TRANSFER THE PROPERTY FROM ONE TO ANOTHER ENTITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. WAS THE REZONING THAT IT WAS GOING TO PUBLIC. THIS INCLUDES A LIBRARY. IT IS A VERY BROAD JUSTIFICATION. AND AS A PLANNING BOARD THEY HAD NO AUTHORITY TO PLACE ANY RESTRICTIONS. WE WENT OVER THAT THOROUGHLY WITH THEM. AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS , YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PUT RESTRICTIONS. IN ITEMS THREE AND FOUR, YOU WILL BE REVIEWING DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE CONSTRAINTS THAT WILL BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY

IF YOU CHOOSE TO CONVEY IT TO HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRY. THOSE CONSTRAINTS WERE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. AND AGREED TO BY HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRY. THIS INCLUDES THAT THE PROPERTY WILL NOT BE USED AS A HOMELESS OF EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR THOSE WITHOUT CHILDREN. THE PROPERTY BUT NOT BE USED FOR OVERNIGHT SHELTER FOR THE HOMELESS POPULATION. THE PROPERTY WILL NOT BE USED FOR ALCOHOL OR DRUG ADDICTION CRISIS STABILIZATION . THOSE ARE 2 DISTINCT USES . THE PROPERTY WILL NOT BE USED FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE PROPERTY WILL BE USED TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR THOSE UNDER THE AGE OF 26 AND THOSE WITH CHILDREN AND YOUTH.

AS WELL AS RECREATION AND STUDENT ASSISTANT PROGRAMS, ADULT EDUCATION,

VOLUNTARY PREKINDERGARTEN CHILDCARE AND CO-LOCATED GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

IF I CAN INTERRUPT. MR. PATTERSON ?

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING

ITEM NUMBER TWO. WE ARE READING THROUGH ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WE ARE NOT DOING ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS BECAUSE THESE ISSUES WERE RAISED --

SHE IS EXPLAINING BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A REZONING . WHAT I TRY TO EXPLAIN IS, THESE RESTRICTIONS WILL COME IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE REZONING. WE WOULD NORMALLY DO THESE IN ORDER. BUT BECAUSE IT WAS DONE AND THEY MADE THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE REZONING, SHE IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT WILL BE IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WILL PROTECT PEOPLE SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION ON THE REZONING. KNOWING THAT IF YOU DO THAT WILL BECOME UP IN THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. [ INDISCERNIBLE- MULTIPLE SPEAKER ]

WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I AM SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE PROPERTY SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR PERMANENT HOUSING. THOSE WERE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED DURING THE HEARING. AND AGAIN, YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THIS DURING THE REZONING. ONLY DURING THE TRANSACTION AND THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY TO HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRY. WE BELIEVE THAT THE RESTRICTIONS WOULD PROVIDE THE CONTROLS THAT WE HEARD IN THE CONCERNS BY THE CITIZENS. WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO TRY TO DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUES. BUT TODAY, DURING THE REZONING, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES AND YOUR ZONING CODE. AND YOU ARE ONLY TWO

USE THE CRITERIA SET FORTH ON PAGE 2 -- SIX AND TWO -- SEVEN OF YOUR AGENDA. AND DOES THIS MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SET FORTH IN THE ZONING CODE ?

ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT. WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTION , THE PROTECTION IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO REZONE , WHEN IT COMES

TO A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION FOR YOU TRANSFER THE PROPERTY, YOU CANNOT HAVE A BETTER GUARANTEE. IF THEY VIOLATE THE USE, THEY USE THE PROPERTY. IT IS NOT AN ARGUMENT THAT ENSUES. THEY CANNOT USE THE PROPERTY FOR THINGS YOU SAID THEY CANNOT USE IT FOR. THEY WILL LOSE THE PROPERTY. YOU CANNOT HAVE A BETTER GUARANTEE OF CONTROL.

VERY WELL. [ INDISCERNIBLE- MULTIPLE SPEAKER ]

I WAS GOING TO CALL MS. MORRISSEY .

AND [ INDISCERNIBLE NAME ] IF HE WILL COME DOWN FRONT AND HAVE A SEAT. >> MS. MORRISSEY. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS INTRODUCED TO OUR SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR. MS. IDA RIGHT. AS WELL AS OUR SUPERINTENDENT MR. TOM RUSSELL. WHOM ARE HERE TO SUPPORT OUR APPLICATION. I AND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A FEW COMMENTS FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. I WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS NOT INVESTED IN THIS PROPERTY FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN CLOSED AS A SCHOOL BEYOND SIX YEARS. YES, WE HAVE BEEN USING IT. USING IT FOR STORAGE AND FOUR MEETINGS

AND FOR TRAINING. HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN INVESTING IN IT AND WE HAVE NO PLANS TO INVEST IN IT, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IS ALREADY BOARDED UP. AND IN DUE DILIGENCE, THAT IS BEING CONDUCTED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE OWNER, I AM REQUIRED THAT ALL PEOPLE WHO WISH TO VISIT AND INSPECT MUST SIGN A WAIVER THAT RELEASES AND INDEMNIFIES THE SCHOOL BOARD . IN ADDITION THEY MUST WEAR APPROPRIATE CLOTHING TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND I HAVE PROHIBITED SCHOOL DISTRICT STAFF FROM ENTERING THAT BUILDING. THE LACK OF INVESTMENT MEANS THE CONSIDERABLE DECAY OF THE PROPERTY. AND ACROSS AMERICA, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES

IN ENROLLMENT PATTERNS AND LACK OF INVESTMENT, THERE ARE SCHOOLS ACROSS AMERICA THAT ARE BEING CLOSED AND BECOMING PUBLIC USE IN NEIGHBORHOODS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THIS PROPOSAL THAT IS BEFORE YOU IS ONE THAT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME FOR MANY PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER ON. I THINK IT REPRESENTS THE VERY BEST INTENTIONS OF VARIOUS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP POSITION WITH THIS. AND OUR NONPROFIT SECTOR IS ALSO INVOLVED. ALL OF THESE PARTIES ARE COMING TOGETHER TO SOLVE A COMMUNITY ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN LINGERING UNDERDRESSED FOR MANY YEARS. AS SOMEONE WHO IS REPRESENTED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 23 YEARS, TRYING TO LOCATE SCHOOLS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SIT BEHIND US TODAY, ANY TIMES THEY OBJECTED TO THE SIGHTING OF A SCHOOL IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD . AND NINE TIMES OUT OF 10 I LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT THE WRITING WAS DONE. BUT, AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT PROVIDES FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL SERVICE AND IS IN THEM IMPORTANT COMMUNITY RESOURCE, OWNERS OF PROPERTIES LIKE THIS ONE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND I STAND HERE AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS VERY HARD ON THE HALF OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU BY THE COUNTY STAFF AND WHAT YOU WILL HEAR FROM OUR CO-APPLICANT, IS PART OF THE EFFORT TO RECOGNIZE AND LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE AND HOW THOSE CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED. SO THAT, IN FACT, THIS ADAPTIVE REUSE THOSE FORWARD TO SOLVE A COMMUNITY ISSUE FOR ALL OF US, BUT IS IN FACT A GOOD NEIGHBOR FOR OUR NEW NEIGHBORS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO END BY SAYING OF THE HALF OF OUR SCHOOL BOARD IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE APPRECIATE

THAT SO MANY ARE COMING FORWARD TO HELP US HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE CHILDREN, AND THAT WILL HELP OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL FORWARD IN OUR EFFORTS TO BECOME A HIGH-PERFORMING SCHOOL DISTRICT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM. >> AND WE WILL GO DOWN HERE TO [ INDISCERNIBLE NAME ] .

GOOD MORNING. 1004 1004 HEMPSTEAD LANE. IN ORMONDE BEACH. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOMELESS CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY. AS YOU KNOW, I WEAR MANY HATS IN OUR COMMUNITY . TODAY, I AM HERE NOT ONLY WITH THE CO-APPLICANT, BUT I'M HERE WHERE MY MOST IMPORTANT HAT. THAT IS BEING A MOTHER. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE THREE CHILDREN. EVERY TIME THAT I PICKED THEM UP FROM SCHOOL, IMAGINING THAT SHE HAD TO BE PICKED UP AND SLEEP IN A CAR IS VERY DIFFICULT. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD DO FOR MICHELLE -- LOW AND BEHOLD AT THE TIME, ORMONDE BEACH -- ORMOND BEACH ONLY HAVE 400 CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE SCHOOLS. I TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN HELP AS A MOTHER. WE REALIZE THAT THE PROBLEM IS MUCH BROADER THAN ORMOND BEACH. TODAY, WE HAD 2300 HOMELESS STUDENTS ENROLLED IN OUR SCHOOLS. I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE ARE ANGRY . ABOUT THINKING THAT THERE WILL BE A HOMELESS SHELTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK I WANT A HOMELESS SHELTER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO NOT THINK I WANT DRUG DEALERS, PROSTITUTES AND ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THAT IT HAS WITH IT. ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE IS, WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED AND WHAT WE SAW EVERY DAY ON BEECH STREET AND WHAT WE SEE ON TV. AND HE BECAME HOMELESS FOR A DAY. ONE IN FIVE HOMELESS PEOPLE IS A CHILD. YOU ARE NOT HOLDING A CHILD RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING HOMELESS. FLORIDA IS NOT RANKED VERY WELL IN HOMELESSNESS. WE ARE RANKED 37 IN THE COUNTRY. IF THAT IS NOT BAD ENOUGH, WE, VOLUSIA COUNTY IS NUMBER 44 IN OUR STATE . 25% OF OUR ONLY CHILDREN , KIDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL WITH YOUR KIDS AND MY KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. THEY LIVE IN POVERTY TODAY. 25%. ONE OUT OF FOUR. I ASSURE YOU , NO CHILD

ALEXIS TO LIVE IN A CAR. OR IN THE WOODS. OR NOT HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME. 180 OF THE 2300 CHILDREN ARE UNACCOMPANIED YOUTH. THOSE ARE STUDENTS WHO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL BUT DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME. I HAVE TOLD MANY PEOPLE MANY TIMES THAT IN MY DAUGHTERS BECAME HOMELESS THE FIRST THING THEY WOULD DO WAS QUIT SCHOOL. AND THESE KIDS STILL MANAGED TO GET UP EVERY MORNING FROM THEIR TENT OR THEIR CAR OR WHERE EVER THEY ARE GET TO SCHOOL.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE MOST VULNERABLE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE 40% OF AMERICA'S HOMELESS. THE FASTEST-GROWING SEGMENT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION. IF WE DO NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I HEAR ALL THE TIME, I WORK HARD . THEY SHOULD WORK HARD. I HAVE PAID MY DUES, THEY SHOULD PAY THEIR DUES. IN FACT, TWO THIRDS OF AMERICANS HAVE DIFFICULTY COMING UP WITH MONEY TO

COME UP WITH A $1000 EMERGENCY. AT THE END OF THE MONTH YOU MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY YOUR RENT. IF YOUR PARENTS BECOME SICK AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND YOU HAVE TO QUIT YOUR JOB, YOU COULD LOSE YOUR HOME BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PAY YOUR RENT. THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS WHY PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS AND TWO THIRDS OF US CANNOT MAKE THAT. I CAME FROM IRAN FOREVER AGO. ALMOST 40 YEARS. EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT THE AMERICAN DREAM. IT IS TRUE. THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. IT'S DEFINITELY ALIVE AND WELL. UNLESS

YOU WERE BORN IN POVERTY. IF YOU WERE ALREADY BORN IN POVERTY, YOU HAVE NO CHANCE. NEARLY 70% OF PEOPLE REMAIN IN POVERTY UNLESS WE HELP THEM GET OUT OF THE SPIRAL. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE REZONING OF HEARST ELEMENTARY. THERE ARE 42 CATEGORIES OF HOMELESS THAT WILL BE RESIDING AND HOPE PLACE. THERE ARE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. I LIKE TO CALL THEIR CHILDREN WITH THEIR FAMILIES. AND UNACCOMPANIED YOUTH. NO SINGLE ADULTS. THE QUESTION BECOMES , WHITEHURST ? WHY IN OUR BACKYARD ? THE REALITY IS THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE WAS BUILT BY TAXPAYER MONEY, IT IS CONDUCIVE FOR WHAT HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRIES IS TRYING TO DO. IT HAS A LIBRARY AND THE CAFETERIA. IT HAS BATHROOMS. THE CLASSROOMS CAN BE CONVERTED TO SINGLE ROOMS. BECAUSE HEARST ELEMENTARY IS VERY CONDUCIVE TO WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO. THE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED IS, WHY NOT ANOTHER SCHOOL ?

THE ONLY OTHER SCHOOL THAT WAS AVAILABLE WAS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] . AND THAT WAS SOLD. THERE WERE NO OTHER SCHOOLS. WE DID NOT PICK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO MOVE IT OVER THERE. IT IS BECAUSE HEARST ELEMENTARY WAS ALREADY THERE. I ATTENDED THE MEETING THAT HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRY HELD ON MAIN NIGHT. -- ON MAY 9. AND LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THE ATTENDEES. VERY VALID CONCERNS. I TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM. ONE MAJOR CONCERN WAS, MY PROPERTY VALUE WILL DECLINE. I HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. ANOTHER CONCERN WAS, THERE WILL BE MORE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE. A CONCERN NUMBER THREE, MY CHILDREN WILL NOT BE SAFE PLAYING OUTSIDE WITH A HOMELESS CHILDREN. A VALID LIST OF CONCERNS. AFTER THAT MEETING, I CALLED AND SAID I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU. BECAUSE THERE IS CONCERN THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES WILL GO DOWN. WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION. AND WE STUDIED MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS. AS YOU MAY HAVE READ IN THE NEWSPAPER, HE SAID HOME PRICES ARE IMPACTED BY ANY SINGLE FACTOR. IF IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT, I THINK IT WILL BE POSITIVE. CONCERN NUMBER TWO. THERE WILL BE MORE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. THE REALITY IS, ALL HOPE PLACE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THAT ON YOUR NEIGHBORS BUT WE ARE DOING THIS. THERE IS NO FACTUAL DATA THAT HOMELESS FAMILIES CONTRIBUTE TO MORE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT HOMEOWNERS. AND VOLUSIA COUNTY WOULD HAVE EXTRA MONEY

IF THEY NEED EXTRA PATROLS. NOT BECAUSE ANY OF US FEEL THAT IT WILL BE NEEDED, BUT JUST TO MAKE THE RESIDENTS FEEL BETTER. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT HALIFAX URBAN MINISTRIES WILL HAVE SECURITY 24/7. THERE WILL BE ONE INTRIGUE TO THE CAMPUS -- THERE WILL BE ONE SINGLE ENTRY TO THE CAMPUS. MY CHILDREN WILL NOT BE SAFE PLAYING OUTSIDE WITH HOMELESS CHILDREN. THE REALITY IS YOUR CHILDREN ARE PLAYING WITH THOSE KIDS EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU MAY NOT KNOW IT BUT YOUR KIDS ARE PLAYING WITH HOMELESS CHILDREN EVERY DAY. WHEN YOU SEE THOSE KIDS IN SCHOOL YOU HAVE NO IDEA THAT THEY ARE HOMELESS. THERE IS AN APPROVING THAT HOMELESS CHILDREN MISBEHAVE ANY MORE THAN CHILDREN WITH HOMES. AND HOPE PLACE , THEY WILL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLAYGROUND WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT FOR THE CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE PLAYGROUND. ONE PROBLEM WITH THE SHELTER IS THAT THE PARENTS CANNOT ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO GO OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION THEY ARE IN. AND THE CHILDREN WHO WILL BE LIVING AND HOPE PLACE WILL BE MUCH BETTER OFF BECAUSE THEY WILL LIVE LIKE OTHER NORMAL CHILDREN AND GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT HOPE PLACE IS NOT. THEY REITERATED WHAT THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO DO. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE LISTENING. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IT IS NOT. THE PLACE IS NOT A SHELTER FOR THE CHRONIC HOMELESS. THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A BEECH STREET WILL NOT BE THERE. IT IS NOT A SHELTER FOR A SINGLE ADULT POPULATIONS. IT IS NOT A DRUG FACILITY. IF YOU DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR THEY WILL BE IN OUR BACKYARD. THE REALITY IS, THIS IS BY REFERRAL ONLY. THEY HAVE TO GO TO AN AGENCY TO BE REFERRED TO HOPE PLACE. THERE WILL BE A DRUG TEST AND A BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE THEY CAN COME IN. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A DRUG OR ALCOHOL TREATMENT CENTER. IT IS NOT A DOMESTIC ABUSE CENTER. THOSE WHO DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULES CANNOT STAY. THOSE WHO ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB AND TO BETTER CANNOT STAY. YOUTH WHO CANNOT -- WHO WILL NOT ATTEND STOOL MY SCHOOL WILL NOT STAY. THIS IS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR CHILDREN. WE CALL IT HOUSING BECAUSE THE SHELTER IS A PLACE YOU WILL DROP BY. THIS IS TEMPORARY AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. AND THIS IS ALSO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR A COMEBACK -- UNACCOMPANIED YOUTH WHO ATTEND SCHOOL. RESIDENTS HAVE TO BE -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A WALK-UP FACILITY. THEY HAVE TO BE REFERRED. HOPE PLACE IS A REFUGE FOR PEOPLE IN DESPAIR. FOR THOSE MOSTLY NOT IN THEIR OWN CHILDREN -- CHOOSING. THEY NEED TO SAVE UP MONEY TO FIND HOUSING. HOPE PLACE WILL BE FOR CITIZENS WHO WERE CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE . WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE FROM NONPROFIT AGENCIES HERE TODAY. OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME AND THE ATTENDEES TIME, WE HAVE ASKED JUST A COUPLE TO SPEAK. AS FOR THE REST OF THEM TO NOT TAKE UP YOUR TIME. AT THIS MOMENT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE WHO IS HERE IN SUPPORT OF HOPE PLACE TO PLEASE STAND UP SO YOU CAN SEE THE SUPPORT IN THE ROOM. AGAIN, THANK YOU. AGAIN, OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME,

AND ALL OF THE ATTENDEES TIME, WE HAVE ASKED JUST A COUPLE TO SPEAK TO YOU. WE COULD HAVE EVERYONE FILL OUT A FORM IF YOU WOULD LIKE. I TOLD THEM PLEASE DON'T.

ACTUALLY THEY DID A LOT OF FORM.

I CANNOT CONTROL THEM BECAUSE I TOLD THEM NOT TO.[ LAUGHTER ]

IT IS VERY GOOD. BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE RECORD THAT THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM.

I ALSO WANT YOU TO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL LIVING IN OUR COUNTY. YOU ARE NOT ONLY REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNERS. YOU'RE ALSO REPRESENTING THE HOMELESS AND THE LITTLE KIDS WHO HAVE NO VOTING RIGHTS AND NO CHOICE.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER VOTING YES FOR HOPE PLACE. IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR CHILDREN AND TO THEIR FAMILIES. IT IS A WAY TO CHANGE THE 25% OF CHILDREN LIVING IN DESPAIR AND POVERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS AND SAID WE GOT DOWN TO 15% BECAUSE OF YOU. THAT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE. THANK YOU. >> AT THE RISK OF TAKING UP TOO MUCH TIME, THIS IS A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT SHE SAID. BUT I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- ADD THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIOUS RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS THAT WILL BE PROPOSED. WE THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE SHELTER AND GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE SHELTER AND FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT WE WILL DO NOW, WE WILL CLOSE THE STAFF REPORTING SECTION. IS THERE ANY QUESTION FOR THE STAFF ?

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I WILL WAIT UNTIL AFTER WE HEAR THE PUBLIC. SHE HAS ALREADY ANSWERED ONE OF MY CONCERNS AND I WILL ELABORATE FURTHER ON THAT AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. >> THIS IS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ONLY. WE ARE READY TO GO INTO A LONG DAY.

THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE JUST HEARD

A PART OF THE STAFF.

THANK YOU I WILL JUST WAIT.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION. TO BE HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ? -- CAMBI RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES BEFORE WE START -- CAN WE RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES BEFORE WE START ?

WE WILL HAVE A RECESS IN BE BACK FOR 10 WE WILL HAVE A RECESS IN BE BACK FOR 1030 WE WILL HAVE A RECESS IN BE BACK FOR 10:30 AM. >> [ EVENT IN RECESS UNTIL 10:30 AM EST. CAPTIONER STANDING BY ] >> [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

CHAMBERS PLEASE COME TO ORDER. WE ARE BACK TO DUTY. DURING OUR 10 MINUTE BREAK I HAVE HAD MANY OF YOU COME UP AND ASK HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS DISCUSSION. THIS HELPS TO MOVE THINGS ALONG QUICKLY.

BY THE WAY, TURN YOUR VOLUME ON YOUR PHONE DOWN SO WE ARE NOT DISTURBED. I WILL CALL A NAME . IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, YOU CAN STAND UP AND SAY I AM SPEAKING, AND WE WILL TRY TO GET THE FRONT ROW CLEARED OUT . IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK,

BUT YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST IT, JUST STAND UP AND SAY I AM IN SUPPORT OR I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY. AND SIT BACK DOWN. YOUR COMMENT WILL BE REGISTERED ON THE RECORD. WE ALSO HAVE YOUR YELLOW SLEEP -- SLIP. SO IF YOU FORGOT TO MARKET, I WILL PUT THAT IN -- MARKDOWN IF YOU ARE SUPPORTING IT OR NOT, I WILL DO THAT FOR YOU. YOU CAN WAIVE YOUR OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT AS WELL. WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU. GOOD MORNING. HERE WE GO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I AM MISSING A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. I WAS ASKED TO HOLD ON FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO COME IN. IS EVERYBODY IN CLICK -- CLEAR? -- IS EVERYBODY CLEAR? IF YOU ARE SPEAKING, YOU HAVE TO WALK UP TO THE FRONT ROW . LET'S FILL IN THE FRONT ROW. AS SOON AS WE DO THAT, I WILL STOP CALLING NAMES. WE WILL DO THE SPEECHES. AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE YOU BACK. WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR COUNSEL TO COME BACK AND, LET ME REITERATE OUR DISCLAIMER FOR THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNCIL WELCOMES YOUR INVOLVEMENT AND IS INTERESTED IN HEARING YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE COMPLETE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SLIP AND INDICATE IN THE SUBJECT LINE THE ISSUES YOU WISH TO ADDRESS. YOU MAY USE THE BACK IF YOU HAVE TO. AFTER YOU ARE RECOGNIZE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. YOU MAY SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES DURING THIS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION. YOU CAN ALWAYS SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION. THE COUNTY COUNCIL DOES NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS DURING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. PLEASE BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL OF THE VIEWS OF OTHERS. PERSONAL ATTACKS ON COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNTY STAFF ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE NOT TOLERATED, I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE. NO CAMPAIGNING. I WILL STOP YOU RIGHT THERE. GOOD MORNING LADIES -- WE ARE STANDING BY. I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO NOT HAVE WHAT WE CALL ON THE RADIO DEAD AIR. THAT IS NOT GOOD. WRITES GET? -- MY OLD BOSS. IS THAT WHATEVER YOU DO, JUST KEEP TALKING ON THE RADIO. WE ARE NOW ALL PRESENT. I HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE WHO DID NOT FILL OUT WHETHER THEY ARE FOR OR AGAINST. SO LET'S START OFF THEIR. LYNN CRUZA , YOU SUPPORT? ARE YOU SPEAKING? COME UP TO THE FRONT LINE. THERE IS ONE.

JUDY LAMONT. WHERE ARE YOU? GOING ONCE . OKAY. SHE IS THERE. STEPHEN BRAUN .

STEVEN BROAN. ONCE, TWICE. ANNIE EVANS. THANK YOU. IN SUPPORT, NOT SPEAKING. SAMUEL KARL. SPEAKING. STANLEY ESCADERO. SPEAKING MARK GRALIS.

I AM IN SUPPORT AND I AM NOT GOING TO BE SPEAKING.

I AM GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR PENMANSHIP. [ LAUGHTER ]

-- THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE TOMORROW.

ADRENA [ INDISCERNIBLE ].

I AM FOR A. >> PAM WOODS. FOR AND NOT SPEAKING. DIANE MORGAN. I GOT THAT. THAT IS ELEGANT HANDWRITING. BUT WILLIAMS OR BOB WILLIAMS

I RESPECTFULLY WAIVE MY RIGHT TO SPEAK.

WE RESPECTFULLY THANK YOU. DONNA DULY.

DAVID PARKER -- BARKER. SELMA --

[ INDISCERNIBLE LOW VOLUME ]

SAY YOUR NAME.

PARKER. -- BARKER .

BOTH OF YOU IN MY OFFICE TOMORROW. CARL EPLY.

MIKE [ INDISCERNIBLE ] SALVATION ARMY THANKS AGAIN FOR HELPING THE VETERANS. NANCY KEEBLER. SPEAKING. WE'RE ON A ROLL. TERESA BRIAND -- RAND. JIM ROSE. TOM RAY. SANDY BISHOP. JOAN CAPPANARO. REVEREND TIMOTHY MANN. DAVE YOUNG. MARK HERWALT. TRANSLATION PLEASE?

LOOKS LIKE MYA ALBRECHT.

>> TED [ INDISCERNIBLE ].

NANCY WAHLBY. SPEAKING. DWAYNE HOWE. THANK YOU. SCOTT [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. NANCY EPPS. GOOD TO SEE YOU. WILLIAM CHAPLIN. JUDY WENCH. CHRISTINE MORE -- MOORE. SPEAKING. PATRICIA RAY. HAD TO DO END UP SO FAR FROM HIM? I KNOW YOU FILLED IT UP RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. BY THE WAY,

IF YOU ARE PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND HAVE NOT MOVED YOUR CAR IN A COUPLE OF HOURS, YOU HAVE A TICKET. YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE YOUR CAR BACK AND FORTH OR WHATEVER. THEY MARK YOUR TIRES. MARY LEWIS. I KNEW THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE. DO YOU NEED TO MOVE YOUR CAR? OKAY. A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MOVING CARS. AREN'T YOU GLAD WE HAVE PUBLIC-SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS? STEPHAN MILLER. OKAY. VIVIAN ROBINS AND. -- ROBINSON. ASTRID [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. COME ON UPFRONT SERVE. -- SIR. WE HAVE A FEW MORE TO GO.

CHRISTPHER PRIUS. YOU ARE SPEAKING, COME UP FRONT. ALBERT [ INDISCERNIBLE ] ARE YOU SPEAKING? COME ON UP. LISA GORDON. SPEAKING? PLEASE COME ON UP. JASON CORREA. SPEAKING., UPFRONT. -- COME ON UPFRONT. [ INDISCERNIBLE ] EDITH DONNELLY . ARE YOU HERE? DID SHE MOVE HER CAR? WE WILL PUT THAT TO THE SIDE. JOHN GORDON. YOU ARE SPEAKING. COME ON UPFRONT.

EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THE THREE-MINUTE RULE, CORRECT? AT THREE MINUTES I WILL STOP THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE WILL BE HERE FOR DAYS. SO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL. WE WILL START WITH ALAN REDDING. THESE ARE ALL MIXED UP. I JUST FILLED UP THE FRONT ROW AND WE WILL CONTINUE AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE. GOOD MORNING --

GOOD MORNING I LIVE AT 161 BRIARWOOD DRIVE. I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF CENTRAL FLORIDA. MOST OF MY TALK WAS COVERED BY MRS. [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. SHE CAME FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A MOTHER. I WAS GOING TO COME FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A FATHER AND GRANDFATHER. RIGHT NOW I WILL COME FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A VOLUSIA COUNTY TAXPAYER. I AM ALL FOR THE SAVING THE PROPER -- UTILIZATION OF RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY TAX RESOURCES. BUT THERE IS ONE RESOURCE THAT I RARELY HEAR TALKED ABOUT. AND THAT IS THE RESOURCE , THE HUMAN RESOURCE. WHAT ABOUT THE HUMAN RESOURCES THAT ARE GOING TO WASTE WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE? WHAT ABOUT THE HUMAN RESOURCES THAT WILL GO TO WASTE IS OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT PROPERLY EDUCATED? AND TO BE PROPERLY EDUCATED, YOU MUST BE PROPERLY HOUSED. SO I AM ASKING ALL OF YOU TO SUPPORT HOPE PLACE. THANK YOU.

JOHN GORDON. >> MY NAME IS JOHN GORDON. I LIVE FIVE HOUSES FROM [ INDISCERNIBLE ] ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 22 YEARS. I HAVE SEEN A LOT COME THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD, GOOD AND BAD. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST NOW PICKING UP FROM THE RECESSION. MY FEAR IS THAT ALL THIS, AND MAYBE NOT THE PEOPLE IN THE HOMELESS SHELTER, BUT ALL THAT COMES BRINGS THEIR WHATEVER ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR PEOPLE, AND THIS MINISTRY COMES THE DAY BEFORE WE HAD THE LAST COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. NOT A WEEK, NOT A MONTH. THEY ARE DISHONEST, THEY ARE MISINFORMING. SORRY, I AM WOUND UP AND AM TRYING NOT TO BE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY THAT STOOD UP BEFORE THAT IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE

HOLD ONE SECOND. I AM TRYING TO GIVE YOU ALL YOUR TIME.

YOU WANT TO CALM DOWN.

ABSOLUTELY.

WAIT ONE SECOND. HE IS STILL WOUND. WE ARE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. FREEZE. GO AHEAD AND START THE CLOCK.

ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT STOOD UP AND SAY THEY WERE FOR, ALL OF THEM FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD RAISE YOUR HAND.

[ INDISCERNIBLE LOW VOLUME ] >> NOBODY FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, MY COMMUNITY OF 2000 PEOPLE THAT SURROUND AT SCHOOL, NOT ONE OF THEM ARE THE PEOPLE WHO STOOD UP AND SAID I AM FOR THIS. NONE OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS FIVE DOORS DOWN FROM YOUR HOUSE. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT. IF URBAN MINISTRY WAS STRAIGHT UP WE WOULD'VE HAD A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE THAT MEETING LAST TIME. THEY WERE TELLING US THAT

THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAND OUTSIDE A RELEASE. WE ASKED THEM TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE SO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY COULD GET IN ON THIS CONVERSATION. THEY REFUSE TO DO THAT. MEAN NOT SO MUCH. I AM NOT GOOD WITH WORDS AS YOU CAN TELL. THE OTHER PILLARS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOOD, IT'S NOT REALLY FUNNY, THAT ARE GOOD WITH WORDS STOOD UP AND NOT ONE ANSWER , NOT ONE QUESTION WAS EVER ANSWERED. IT WAS ALWAYS LED TO ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE TO DEAL WITH THIS. THEY HAD A LIST OF LIKE 35 OR 40 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS PROPERTY FOR LATER ON. IT IS BS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU WERE DOING VERY WELL WITH YOUR WORDS. RESET THE CLOCK. CHRISTINE MORE -- MOORE. >> I LIVED INDIGO ROAD ORMOND BEACH FLORIDA. I AM THE BENEVOLENCE DIRECTOR AT [ INDISCERNIBLE ] CHRISTIAN CHURCH. MY POSITION WAS CREATED BECAUSE OF AN INFLUX OF HOME WAS THAT WALKING DAILY ON OUR STREETS UNLIKE NOTED AT THE PLAN FOR HOPE PLACE. PEOPLE KNOCK ON OUR DOORS ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. WE HAVE A 24-HOUR CALL LINE AND IT NEVER TURNS OFF. I WASN'T GOING TO SAY THIS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE PARENTING ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A WOMAN WHO GREW UP IN POVERTY. A WOMAN WHO AS A CHILD WAS HOMELESS SEVERAL TIMES. NEVER MET MY FATHER. I AM A UNITED STATES ARMY VETERAN. I HAVE GIVEN 15 YEARS DEDICATION

AND VOLUNTEER TO VOLUSIA COUNTY SCHOOLS. I'VE WORKED WITH THE STUDENTS WHO ARE HOMELESS. I HAVE GONE TO THE TENTS. I'VE GOT TO THE HOTEL ROOMS WERE MATTRESSES WERE STACKED UP IN THE STUDENTS WERE MOST PART -- WERE MORE VIBRANT

AND ALIVE SOME OF THE KIDS AND GATED COMMUNITIES. THERE ARE HOME WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY. IT IS NOT AN EXCEPTION. I LIVE IN [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. IT HAS GOT SOME MILLION-DOLLAR HOUSES. I AM NOT A PERFECT PERSON BUT I HAVE TAKEN IN SOME OF THESE HOMELESS. I'VE GIVEN UP MY OWN SACRIFICIAL DOLLAR WHICH IS NOT VERY BIG. YOU CANNOT LIVE OFF MY SALARY. I HAVE RAISE TO KIDS. I'VE SEEN WHAT IT TAKES. THESE ARE PEOPLE THINK THESE ARE LIES, THESE ARE NOT NUMBERS. THEY ARE NOT JUST ASSISTANCE. THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO NEED A VOICE IN THEIR VOICES RIGHT NOW. AND I AS A CHILD WITH EXPERIENCE SOME OF THIS ON THE STREET THE ST. LOUIS MISSOURI IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY BUT STILL THE SAME HOMELESS, THEY NEED HELP, THEY NEED A VISION, AND THEY NEED PEOPLE THAT CARE AND THAT WILL STAND UP FOR THEM AND NOT JUST LOOK AT THEM AS WHICH -- WHAT IS SHOWN ON BE STREET ON THE NEWS. EVEN THEY NEED A VOICE PICK THEIR --. THEY ARE NOT ALL BAD. THEY ARE NOT ALL CONFERENCE. I DO THINK A BACKGROUND CHECK IS APPROPRIATE. I DO THINK DRUG SCREENINGS ARE APPROPRIATE. FOR SAFETY. THEY ARE RESPECTFUL. THEY ARE NOT LYING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SPENT ANY TIME SERVING ON OUR STREETS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET OUT THERE AND HELP AND THEN HAVE A VOICE AND SPEAK TO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU. -- THANK YOU.

BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WELCOME HOME. NOW I NEED YOU TO GO TO YOUR OTHER SEE. -- SEE. -- SEATS. WHAT YOU SPEAK GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM IN THE AUDIENCE. SO WE CAN REFILL THE FRONT ROW. JASON COREA.

>> -- AFTER WE'RE DONE I WILL BE CALLING MORE NAMES. IF HER NAME WAS NOT CALL, YOU WILL BE CALLED AGAIN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY ADDRESS IS 1440 RICHMOND AVENUE. ABUTS THE SCHOOL. -- MY BACKYARD IS THEIR BACKYARD. I AM A TRADEMARK. I APOLOGIZE.

-- I AM A TREND -- TRAIN WRECK. I APOLOGIZE.

HOLD TIME. TAKE A MINUTE. BREEDS. -- BREATHE.

MY CHILDREN ARE IN THE BACKYARD AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE OVER. THEY ARE IN THEIR BATHING SUITS. THERE IS A FENCE BETWEEN ME AND THEM. I SEE THE SCHOOL PERFECTLY FOR MY HOUSE. THEIR KIDS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE AND THERE WILL BE A WALL BETWEEN THE. IT WILL BE DIFFERENT CULTURAL -- THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FROM ONE SIDE OF THE FENCE AND LOOKING OUT AND OUR KIDS WILL BE LOOKING IN. I DON'T THINK PUTTING A GROUP OF KIDS INTO ONE SPOT AND SHOWING THEM THAT THEIR HOMELANDS IS THE RIGHT THING -- HOMELESS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. YOU NEED TO SPREAD THEM OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT INTO ONE LITTLE PIECE. I WILL BE SEEING THIS FIRSTHAND. I KNOW IT WILL WORK. -- WILL NOT WORK. YOU GUYS IS THAT [ INDISCERNIBLE ] YOU KNOW HOW MANY MOBILE HOMES FOR FAMILIES YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUY WITH THAT? OVER 80. IT IS RIDICULOUS TO PUT EVERYONE IN ONE LITTLE SPOT. IT IS NOT A LITTLE SPOT, IT IS 15 ACRES. THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST 10 TIMES AS LARGE AS WHAT [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IS OPERATING ON NOW. I KNOW YOU GUYS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THESE ARE BLEEDING HEART PEOPLE. THEY WANT TO HELP THE HOMELESS. THE HOMELESS NEED HELP. HOW CAN THEY RESIST HELPING THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE THAT ARE ON THE STREETS OR IN DOWNTOWN, THAT ARE AFFECTING THE ECONOMY IN OUR TOWN?

HOLD THE TIME. >> -- DO YOU NEED A DRINK OF WATER?

THEY EXPLAINED HOW THEY DRUG TEST PEOPLE COMING IN. THEY EXPLAIN HOW THEY ALLOW VISITORS. THESE VISITORS ARE NOT DRUG TESTED. THEY ALLOW ANYONE TO COME IN. THE CHILDREN COME IN. THE TEENAGERS COME IN ANYTIME THEY WANT. IT IS NOT FORTIFIED. ANYBODY CAN BE ALLOWED IN THAT BUILDING. IT IS A CONTRADICTION. THEY SAY THEY HAVE GOT POLICE THERE, SECURITY THERE. BUT THE TRUTH IS THEY SAY THEY ALLOW ANYONE IN TO VISIT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. IT IS A CONTRADICTION. EARLIER THEY SAID OUR NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS CAN PLAY ON THEIR PLAYGROUND THAT THEY HAVE, BUT THEN LATER ON THEY SAY IT WILL BE FENCED IN AND THEY CANNOT AND THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO COMING TO VISIT THE PARENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE SEEN WITH CHILDREN. THERE'S A LOT -- THIS WHOLE PLAN -- THE REALITY IS THEY ARE WINGING IT. THEY ARE MAKING THINGS UP AS THEY GO. THEY ARE TELLING ONE -- EVERYONE WHAT THEY THINK THEY WANT TO HEAR. CAN I KEEP SPEAKING?

YOUR TIME HAS GONE OVER. I UNDERSTAND. WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A MOMENT.

NANCY [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> I AM FROM 2618 SOUTH PENINSULA DRIVE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION WHICH IS AN ASSOCIATION OF LANDLORD THE VOLUSIA COUNTY. WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS. WE ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE BETTER LANDLORDS FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY. WE ALSO HAVE PARTNERS

WITH [ INDISCERNIBLE ] AND IT HAS BEEN A YEAR SINCE THEY HAVE SPOKEN WITH US. WE HAVE ARE MANY OF US VOLUNTEERED TO WORK WITH THEM AND PUT PEOPLE FROM THEIR MINISTRY INTO OUR APARTMENTS. THE HOME ASSOCIATION HAS HAD COUNSELING. WE WON'T SEE THE PEOPLE UNTIL THEY LEAVE THIS NEW HOPE PROJECT. AND THEY WILL HAVE RECEIVED COUNSELING . WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DRUG TESTED. WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE -- WILL HAVE JOBS BY THE TIME THEY HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF THIS. TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. WE ARE THERE TO RECEIVE THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY ALL THE WAY FROM THE BEACHSIDE TO [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY HAVE ACQUIRED POSITIONS. SO I JUST WANTED TO STAND FOR IT AND SAY THAT SINCE THIS IS ONLY TEMPORARY HOUSING, WE ARE THERE TO BE THE NEXT STEP FOR THIS ASSOCIATION TO HAVE PLACES FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GO. I AM NOT SURE HOW LONG EXACTLY THE PLAN EACH PERSON WOULD BE IN THIS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, BUT IF THE STUDENTS CAN GET HELP AND THEY ARE FUNDING, WE HAVE SOME VERY LOW-COST HOUSING AREAS WE CAN GET THESE CHILDREN INTO APARTMENTS OF THEIR OWN. I JUST WANTED TO THANK HOME FOR LETTING US JOIN WITH THEM AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM.'S -- THANK YOU.

JOHN -- LISA GORDON. >> MY NAME IS LISA GORDON. I LIVE 1329 [ INDISCERNIBLE ] I HEARD MY -- YOU HEARD MY HUSBAND SPEAK EARLIER. I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE BACK IN 1989. I WAS 23 YEARS OLD. AT THE TIME I DIDN'T REALIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MOST OF YOU FOLKS CALL THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THE STORMS. I ASSURE YOU IT SLUMS.IS NOT -- I HAVE WORKED TWO JOBS TO KEEP MY HOUSE LOOKING WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE A PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY ON ONE SIDE OF ME THAT IS LET HIS HOUSE RUNDOWN ENTIRELY AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE WITH A. I HAVE A GROUP OF TEENAGERS THAT WILL BE HOMELESS ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME THAT SPRAY PAINT GRAFFITI ALL OVER THE FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE AND THEY TALKED ONLINE SO THEY CAN KEEP THEIR HOMES. I WILL ASSURE YOU THAT MY HUSBAND AND I DO WANT TO HELP CHILDREN. WE HAVE TAKEN IN THREE HOMELESS TEENAGERS ANYTIME WE HAVE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE ON OUR OWN. NOT ASKING FOR ANY RENT SO THAT THEY CAN FINISH THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS. I ASSURE YOU THAT I WANT TO HELP THOSE. I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN MEDICINE FOR 32 YEARS IF I DIDN'T. I ALSO AM A COLLEGE INSTRUCTOR FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. I SEE THIS AS A WAY FOR YOU TO MANIPULATE THE SITUATION AND PUT ANYTHING YOU WANT IN THERE. THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY STRUGGLING. WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE STRUGGLING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUILD IN ORMOND BEACH OR PLANTATION BAY. OR WHERE YOU FOLKS LIVE. BUT NOT IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS ALREADY STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY. IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT VOLUSIA COUNTY IS THE LOWEST PAID COUNTY IN FLORIDA. HALF OF THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE WHO WAS IF THEY WERE PAID A PROPER AMOUNT THEY COULD LIVE. SO I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS, THAT YOU ARE REALLY TAKING INTO ALL FACTORS FOR EVERYBODY CONCERNED. NOT JUST YOURSELVES AND THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO SEE THIS PASS-THROUGH. BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU THAT MOST OF THOSE FOLKS ARE PROBABLY NEVER TAKEN IN A HOMELESS CHILD ON THEIR OWN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

WE WILL REMAIN IN ORDER. WE DON'T DO THAT. OTHERWISE, WE WILL BE HERE FOR WEEKS. JOAN [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> PELICAN BAY DRIVE, DAYTONA BEACH. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY NOT ONLY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, BUT ALSO AS A MEMBER OF FIGHTING AGAINST INJUSTICE TOWARDS HARMONY. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE OFTEN ASK OURSELVES IS WHAT IS IT THAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT. FOR ME, IT'S THE THOUGHT OF ANYONE NOT HAVING THEIR BASIC NEEDS MET.

TO HAVE TO ROAM THE STREETS AT NIGHT OR GO FROM COUCH TO COUCH TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO SLEEP ARE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN RELIEVE OR PERFORM YOUR BODILY FUNCTIONS IS ABSOLUTELY UNCONSCIONABLE FOR ME AND THEN WHEN WE ADD CHILDREN INTO THAT EQUATION, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHERE WE HAVE CON -- COME TO AS A SOCIETY. WE SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL

BY [ INDISCERNIBLE ] URBAN MINISTRIES FOR WHOLE PLACE. WE SUPPORT ALL EFFORTS TO HOUSE ARE HOMELESS BROTHERS AND SISTERS. WE URGE THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO ALSO VOTE IN FAVOR OF HOPE PLACE INTO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEIR PAST COMMITMENTS TO A HOMELESS SHELTER AND ASSISTANCE OUT THERE ON [ INDISCERNIBLE ] ROAD. AS WE SEE THE CONCERNS OF PRIVATE CITIZENS AND THE MAC TO HOUSE HOMELESS CHILDREN -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] WE ARE CONVINCED THEY WILL ONLY INCREASE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SINGLE BROTHERS AND SISTERS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. UNDERSTAND THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY A HUGE PART IN THE DECISION IN OUR SUPPORT OF PLACING THE HOMELESS ASSISTANCE CENTER ON [ INDISCERNIBLE ] ROAD. WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT HOME AS THEY CONTINUED -- THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR HOMELESS BROTHERS AND SISTERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALBERTO [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> MY NAME IS [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. I LIVE THAT CIRCLE DRIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE SCHOOL. FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TODAY IS THAT I REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT HERE THIS MORNING. BUT THEY ALL LIKE MYSELF HAVE A FEAR OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THIS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] COMES UP. THE FIRST THING -- THE SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND SHOULD THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE AGAINST THE HOMELESS PEOPLE OR THE HOMELESS ORGANIZATION. WE ARE NOT AGAINST THEM, WE ARE ALL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AND I AGREE THAT IT IS A WONDERFUL THING THAT THEY ARE DOING. BUT WHAT I DON'T AGREE ON IS THAT THE ZONING IS JUST GOING TO PUT THEM IN A PLACE WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WE HAVE. IT'S REALLY A FEAR . IT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY THINK A PLACE LIKE THIS THAT IS GOING TO GET STARTED SHOULD BE

IN AN URBAN AREA OR SOMEWHERE IN AN AREA THAT IS WIDE OPEN AND AWAY FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I DO AGREE ON. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUITE A BIT IN FEAR OF WHAT'S GOING ON. LIKE HALF REPEATING AT THE MEETING LAST MONTH OF THE SCHOOL, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EVERYBODY THIS MORNING THE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE. IF YOU LIVE IN THIS AREA, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO REFILL SOME OF THE SEATS UP FRONT. LET ME CALL SOME NAMES. STERLING [ INDISCERNIBLE ]

-- WILLIAM BARRY. FILL A SEAT. RUTH TAYLOR. NOT SPEAKING AGAINST. THANK YOU. GRIGORY PEDDIE. -- GREGORY PETTY. WE HAVE ROOM FOR THE REST OF THESE GUYS. CRYSTAL RUNYON. YOU WERE SPEAKING. NOT SPEAKING. OPPOSED NOT SPEAKING. BARBARA [ INDISCERNIBLE ] I CAN'T SEE YOU. ARE YOU SPEAKING? OKAY. CHARLIE [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? DID YOU FILL OUT A SLIP? HOLD ON. EDITH DONNELLY . WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

[ INDISCERNIBLE LOW VOLUME ] >> COME ON UP AND SPEAK. SIT OVER THERE. I HAVE TWO EXTRA SEATS. DO WE HAVE OTHERS ?

WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR [ INDISCERNIBLE LOW VOLUME ]

OKAY. LET'S -- IF YOU FILLED OUT ONE OF THESE FORMS AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THREE OR FOUR, WE ARE THERE RIGHT NOW. WE WILL SPEAK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THAT TO MS. ZIMMERMAN. I WANT TO CALL THESE NEXT NAMES. JUST TELL ME IF YOU ARE HERE. EDITH DONNELLY. ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. JUDY LAMONTE . OKAY. STEPHEN [ INDISCERNIBLE ] YOU ARE FOR AND NOT SPEAKING.

CARL EPPLEY. [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THOSE ARE THE NO-SHOWS. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE. WE WILL KEEP THEM SEPARATE. OKAY. JEANETTE , ARGUE HERE? -- ARE YOU HERE? [ INDISCERNIBLE ] COME ON UP TO THE FRONT DESK AND TELL US WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY. EVERYBODY WILL GET THEIR TURN.

PRIMROSE LANE.

WE'RE DOING ITEM 2.

>> 1448 PRIMROSE LANE .

I AM NOT AGAINST CHILDREN , AGAINST HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE IT. I AM AGAINST THE FACT THAT WE -- YOU PEOPLE TOLD US, THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE TOLD US THAT THEY STARTED THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF 2015. AND WHY DIDN'T THEY CONTACTED US AT THAT POINT? IT'S ALL BEEN -- I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE MORE ETHICAL BECAUSE IT IS CHRISTIAN-BASED. THEY HAVE LIVE IN TO US AND DECEIVED US. -- LIED AND DECEIVED US. I AM NOT FOR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE PEOPLE HERE FOR IT. ARTHUR AVENUE AS WE CAN LOOK AND -- AT WITH ALL THIS MANPOWER HERE. MY SIGNIFICANT OTHER HAS HAD QUITE A FEW CHILDREN AND TAKING CARE OF THEM WITH NO MONEY, LIMITED MONEY. I JUST BELIEVE THAT IT MAY HAVE CHANGED A LOT OF THEY WOULD OF BEEN A LITTLE MORE -- HAD A LITTLE MORE INTEGRITY WHEN THEY CAME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE ZONING COMMISSION DID. THEY CAME TO THE MEETING. I HAVE LISTENS TO THE ZONING COMMISSION RULING AND WHY. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE PEOPLE WERE OUTSIDE. THERE WERE 455 PEOPLE THERE. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM DELTONA SAYING THAT IT'S GOOD , I'M A TAXPAYER, I OWN A BUSINESS. I JUST THINK THERE'S ANOTHER WAY AND I THINK IS WRONG THE WAY THEY DID IT, AND I KNOW YOU DO. BECAUSE OUR MEETING WAS THE DAY BEFORE , AND THE MEETING HERE TODAY IS WHERE EVERYBODY IS WORKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THEY ARE ALL WORKING. THEY PAY THEIR TAXES. THEY PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. OUR HOUSES WILL GO BACK UP, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR THAT PROPERTY. PARK. PERIOD. SOMETHING FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. NOTCHES FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU.

TO RESET -- TERESA [ INDISCERNIBLE ]

>> I AM TERESA RAN FOR 65 [ INDISCERNIBLE ] DAYTONA BEACH. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE YMCA. I AM THE CEO OF THE VOLUSIA FAMILY YMCA. AS PART OF OUR CHRISTIAN MISSION WE HAVE THREE PILLARS THAT WE OPERATE UNDER. YOUTH DEVELOPMENT,

-- HEALTHY LIVING AND SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. HOMEPLACE ALIGNS WITH ALL THREE OF THOSE PILLARS THAT WE STAND FOR. AND WE CERTAINLY ARE FOR ANYTHING THAT STRENGTHENS THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF OUR FAMILY. ON BEHALF OF THE YMCA AND YOU WILL HEAR IT LATER FROM NANCY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE DAYTONA REGIONAL CHAMBER OF WHICH I AM CURRENTLY THE CHAIR, WE ALSO ARE IN SUPPORT OF HOPE PLACE. THANK YOU.

[ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> MY NAME IS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] MY ADDRESS IS 1425 [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. I AM ONE BLOCK FROM THE SCHOOL. MRS. [ INDISCERNIBLE ] SAID THAT MORGAN [ INDISCERNIBLE ] SAID IT WILL BE POSITIVE OR OUR PROPERTY VALUES AS JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT. SINCE THAT IS A CONCERN FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE THAN JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT, SOMETHING WITH PROOF. SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST I THINK. THAT DOESN'T REALLY CONVINCED ME. MY SECOND POINT IS, THE EXTRA PATROLS ARE NOT ACTUALLY SECURE.

ANOTHER CONCERN FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE CURRENTLY THERE, AND THERE IS A SET FEELING AND COMMUNITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THERE IS THIS CHANGE WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF EXTRA PATROLS, BUT THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEED. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED . SO ACTUALLY TO ME THAT SEEMS RATHER EMPTY AT THE MOMENT SINCE IT HASN'T BEEN WRITTEN IN. AS IT WAS SAID AT THE BEGINNING, CERTAIN THINGS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN INTO THIS TITLE CONTRACT AND THAT HASN'T BEEN WRITTEN IN AND THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE SPEAKER SAID THE KIDS WILL BE PLAYING WITH HOMELESS CHILDREN ANYWAY IF THERE IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL. MY KIDS ARE NOT AT PUBLIC SCHOOL. I HOMESCHOOL MY CHILDREN IN THAT HOUSE ONE BLOCK FROM THE SCHOOL. I AM A CHRISTIAN ONLINE ENGLISH PROFESSOR WITH LIBERTY UNIVERSITY. SO I AM NOT A PERSON WHO IS OPPOSED TO GIVING TWO PEOPLE. HOMELESS PEOPLE , ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. I HAVE BEEN IN A SHELTER MYSELF AT ONE POINT IN MY LIFE. WITH MY CHILDREN. AND I KNOW THE STRUGGLES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE

THAT YOU BE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM OUR PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE HELPED PUT YOU IN WHATEVER SITUATION YOU ARE IN WILL COME TO THAT LOCATION. AND I KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE SAFE FOR THESE PARENTS AND CHILDREN, THE OTHERS TO COME IN ARE NOT NECESSARILY SAFE FOR US. I AM NOT ABOUT NOT HAVING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. BUT THE CHURCHES WHO WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, IT WOULD BE FABULOUS FOR THEM TO BUY PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO THAT CHURCH AND HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM NEXT TO THEM SO THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE FALL CHRISTIAN SUPPORT THAT THESE CHURCHES SAY THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE THEM. I HAVE LED SIX ADULT AND CHILDREN MINISTRIES THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO HAVE PEOPLE GET REHABILITATED, TO GIVE THEM SUPPORT. AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT THIS GROUP THAT IS LEADING THIS HAS GONE THROUGH ALL THE AVENUES . FINAL THOUGHT IS THAT THEY SAY THAT THE GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND THEY CAN'T BE TRANSFERRED, THAT WHENEVER THEY MOVE INTO -- SORRY. I AM OUT OF TIME.

NANCY [ INDISCERNIBLE ]

GOOD MORNING. 4253 HIDDEN LAKE DRIVE PORT ORANGE. I AM REPRESENTING THE DAYTONA REGIONAL COMMERCE -- CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE HAVE 1100 MEMBERS OF OUR ORGANIZATION. THE CHAMBER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS

A LONG-RANGE PLAN TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS SITUATION IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. AS WE HAVE LEARNED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND CERTAINLY THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THERE ARE VARIOUS NEEDS AND DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION. THE HOMELESS SITUATION CANNOT BE SOLVED WITH A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL PLAN. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH HOPE PLACE TO PROVIDE A FACILITY SPECIFIC TO FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN AND UNACCOMPANIED YOUTH. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SAFEGUARDS I'M NOT GOING TO BACK OVER THE ONES I HAVE WRITTEN IN MY COMMENTS. BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN ADDITION TO THOSE SAFEGUARDS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON SITE TO ASSIST THESE FAMILIES, TO HELP THEM FIND JOBS, TO HELP KEEP THE CHILDREN EDUCATED, TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CHILDREN AND HELP THESE FAMILIES GET INTO PERMANENT HOUSING IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. HOMEPLACE WILL PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY AND ALREADY COMES WITH A WIDE RANGE OF SUPPORT FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AREA AGENCIES AND THE OFFICIALS COMMITTED TO ITS SUCCESS. WE HAVE TO HELP AND THE CYCLE OF HOMELESSNESS AND IT STARTS WITH THE FAMILIES THAT ARE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK AND JUST NEED SOME TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET. HOMEPLACE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A HAND UP AND NOT A HANDOUT. WE ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE PLAN FOR HOPE PLACE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN [ INDISCERNIBLE ]

>> [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

THE REAL PROBLEM IS AS I CAME INTO WORK TODAY MY GLASSES FELL OUT OF MY POCKET AND GOT RUN OVER. SO I AM REALLY -- IF ANYONE HAS A AN EXTRA PAIR OF READERS.

I LIVE 1420 [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THAT THIS PROPERTY ABOUT ONLY EIGHT HOUSES AND BY LAW ONLY THOSE EIGHT PEOPLE WERE INFORMED. EVERYONE SEEMS CONFUSED THAT WE DON'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING ON. BUT WE DIDN'T. THERE WAS SO MUCH DISINFORMATION IN THE JOURNAL THAT WE CANNOT USE THAT.. THERE ARE A LOT OF RETIRED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEY DON'T HAVE COMPUTERS. THEY DON'T WANT COMPUTERS. SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. THE JOURNAL ACTUALLY PRINTED THE WRONG DATE FOR THE ZONING MEETING. AND HOME DID MEET WITH US MAY 9 -- AND THE ZONING MEETING WAS MAY 10. AT THAT MEETING THEY DISCUSSED A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT THEM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. THERE WERE 60+ SERVICES THAT WERE GOING TO GO ON THAT PROPERTY AND NOW THEY ARE ALL GONE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS A GOING BACK FOR A REVOTE TO THE BEGINNING. BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING LIKE WHAT IS IN THIS APPLICATION. AND SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. WE SHOULD GET OUR CHANCE TO ADDRESS THIS PROJECT . THE OTHER THING IS, EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT CRIME. AS A REASON. IT'S TRUE. CLIMATE WILL GO UP 30% IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. -- THE CRIME IT WILL GO UP 30% IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PULL UP THE POLICE MAPS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE [ INDISCERNIBLE ] SHELTER. I KNOW THIS IS TOUGH TO HEAR, BUT THE NORTH STREET SHELTER IS A FAMILY SHELTER. HOME HAS NOT DEALT WITH THE PROBLEMS THERE. THEY STILL EXIST. THERE WAS A SHOOTING THEIR DAYS AGO. -- THERE THAT -- THERE DAYS AGO. IN OUR COMMUNITY DO WE REALLY WANT MORE POLICE PATROLS ? NO. WE DON'T. WE WANT LESS, JUST LIKE EVERYONE DOES. SO FOR THAT REASON AND MANY MORE, I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STANLEY [ INDISCERNIBLE ] SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET TO YOU. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL. I LIVE AT 3034 SOUTH PENINSULA DRIVE. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF HOPE PLACE. I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE ON THIS PROGRAM WHICH I REGARD AS A SURE AND CERTAIN TO DELIVER STRONG POSITIVE RESULTS FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE CHILDREN AND WOMEN WITH FAMILY. THESE ARE THE HOMELESS WHO ARE MOST IN NEED AND MOST LIKELY TO RESPOND PRODUCTIVELY TO THE TRAINING EDUCATION MEDICAL CARE AND THE CHANCE TO RETURN TO OUR COMMUNITIES AS CONTRIBUTING CITIZENS. O PLACE OFFERS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO PERMANENTLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. IT ALSO OFFERS A DEVELOPMENT EFFORT WHICH WILL ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT WILL BE LOCATED. THERE'S SOME CONCERN AMONG THE GOOD AND HARD-WORKING FOLKS WHO LIVE NEAR THE FUTURE SITE OF HOPE PLACE AND THAT'S PERFECTLY NATURAL. AND A CONCERNED CITIZEN WOULD WANT TO BE SURE THAT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TAKING PLACE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT ATTRACT AN UNDESIRABLE ELEMENT. NOT ONLY DOES THE HOMEPLACE PROGRAM CONTAINS STRONG SAFEGUARDS AGAINST EXACTLY THAT KIND OF PROBLEM, BUT LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STATISTICS ADJUSTED AT CITIZENS WHO WERE FOCUSING THEIR CONCERN ON THE WRONG TARGET.

PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION TAKEN FROM THE INTERNET AND FROM THE ELECTRONIC NEWSPAPER HEADLINE SERVER SHOW CLEARLY THAT THERE IS ALREADY A CRIME PROBLEM IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT A GOOD MANY OF THE PERPETRATORS OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE AREA. THAT IS, NEIGHBORS AND ACQUAINTANCES OF MANY OF THE FOLKS PROTESTING HERE TODAY. FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE BEGINNING OF 2016 UNTIL 3 MAY OF THIS YEAR THERE BEEN MORE THAN 76 INSTANCES OF CRIME COMMITTED WITHIN 1 MILE OF THE HOMEPLACE SITE. THESE CRIMES INCLUDED ARSON, ASSAULT, BURGLARY, DISTURBING THE PEACE, VARIOUS DRUG-RELATED CRIMES, ALCOHOL-RELATED VIOLATIONS, DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED, FRAUD, ROBBERY. AREA SEX CRIMES LARCENY VANDALISM AND WEAPONS VIOLATIONS. 35 REGISTERS SEXUAL PREDATORS AND OFFENDERS LIVING WITHIN A MILE OF HOMEPLACE AND IF YOU GO OUT TO MILES THE NUMBERS INCREASES TO 114. THE SAD FACT IS THAT THE HOMEPLACE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY PLAYED WITH CRIME BUT THE RESURRECTION THAT HOMEPLACE WILL BRING TO ITS HOMELESS BENEFICIARIES WILL ALSO EXTEND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HOMEPLACE IS A RESULT OF THE VISION AND FOUR YEARS OF COOPERATIVE PARTICIPATION BY THE COUNTY, SEVERAL MAJOR CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS AND A GOOD NUMBER OF AREA BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS. THE ADDITIONAL HIGH-LEVEL ATTENTION WHICH WILL PLACE WILL DRAW TO THE AREA WILL BRING BENEFITS IN ITS WAKE. AREA SECURITY WILL IMPROVE THE INCIDENCE OF CRIME

AS LIKELY TO DROP, SMALL BUSINESS ACTIVITY WILL PROBABLY INCREASE AND SO WILL PROPERTY VALUES. IN SHORT, I PREDICT THAT THE NEIGHBORS OF HOMEPLACE WILL SOON FIND ITSELF SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER OFF THAN IF HOMEPLACE IT EVER BEEN BUILT IN THE SIDE -- SITE HEAD REMAIN UNDER DETERIORATED. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TAKE A GIANT STEP TOWARD ALLEVIATING OUR HOMELESS PROBLEM INTO IMPROVING CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE SCHOOL. PLEASE VOTE TO SUPPORT HOPE PLACE. THANK YOU. [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ] >>

He said it was Gary, too. She works with you? Thank you, ma'am. Mike Pastore, I know you are going to talk. Come up front. Robin Courtney? Contney? Are you speaking? Elizabeth Sohn -- Stone? Chris Haughtman? You are speaking? and Leonardo San Clemente? He is not here? Okay. All right we will try to get this going, I just realized what time it was. Samuel Carl cut -- you have the floor, sir thank you for being patient.

My name is Samuel Carl, I reside at 312 A East Street in East Myrtle Beach. I am a local business owner, I came from poverty myself, homeless a couple of times, and have come to the point where I provide my own income. Unlike most of the people here, on top of probably being one of the youngest ones in the room? I am different that I am kind of a hippie. I don't put a lot of stock in government, I don't put a lot of stock in religion but I have been sitting in this room, before all of you showed up. I have been fighting for hope place since I met the family last summer. What I hear from people concerned and against the hope project is this recurring theme of fear. I don't mean to belittle any of their concerns. They are legitimate. I would be concerned if the community center was coming in and there was a potential for crime increasing. Potential for my own children to be harmed or find -- find harmed in any way. Fear, historically, has never, ever resulted in beneficial progress ever. I think that is kind of very important that it is being called the Hope project, the Hope Place. There is no guarantees. It is life. There is no guarantees in anything. You can take as many actions as you want to better humanity and mankind but time and again, you can't promise it is going to happen. But that is why we hope. We always strive for better. We strive for more. We seek out harmony. I have had a hand, as you know I e-mailed each of you, I had a hand

in setting up, designing, implementing and maintaining community projects, both in the new Smyrna Beach area, as well as in Austin, Texas, where I was before this. I set up probably close to 10 different community centers, community gardens, that kind of thing. Every single time, they have resulted in positive change. Communities come together, people come together. It breaks down the walls that basically forces to lump everybody in the homeless community together. As so many people have said, we cap put everyone in the same group. There is no blanket statement that a homeless child is the same as a homeless 45 -year-old man. The same way we can't say that everyone that claims Islam is there religion is a radical extremist. People are all different. We all are striving toward the same thing, that is life. That is all I have to say.

Thank you. Christopher Prius. How did you sneak back there?

I live at 1548 Primrose lane. I am a third generation citizen of this neighborhood. I have lived here for 25 years with the exception of time I was in the military. I came home, wanting my own quiet little corner. To live my life in peace. The main problem with Hope Place is there is so much misinformation. I am an Eagle Scout. I was president of the local [ Indiscernible ] before I graduated high school with a 3.646 GPA, I was in the military. I have 1000 hours of community service while in high school. I am not afraid to help. I donate to a veterans organization that has thought to get homeless veterans off the street, cleaned up and get them back in the community. I am not afraid help. What I am afraid of is that people are playing emotions. One of the speakers that they have no control of people who want to talk. We can't control chronic homeless this way. I know that is not what Hope wants. I have talked with Mark extensively about this. We have being able to have a respectable disagreement. They cannot control people firm migrating. A deputy who response to a DV call or potential DWI will not be worried about getting a 45 -year-old homeless guy sitting in front of a sense. He will sit there and be in the community for a while. No one can put everyone in one group, as the other gentleman said early. There are too many variables, nothing is guaranteed. We understand that, but the water has been muddied from the beginning. No one can give us any answers at the community meeting. I believe the pastor said they were planning this for about four years. Four years, that is a long time to talk to a community. It has been there since the 50s. What they should have done, this is our spots, we want to do this, let's see what the community has to say. Address their concerns publicly so we can try to use this over so we don't have this huge Charlie foxtrot . [ Laughter ] I have asked for a five-year crime report on North Street. It was three CD-ROMs, over six man-hours to compile for a five-year period. I did the same for my community and I have not gotten back you. On February 13-May 3 there was a tree page Excel spreadsheet of police and fire calls to the North Street facility, or calls that use that address for a location. I would like you to just think about it.

Thank you sir. Lynn Cruz.

That got me at the top of the stock last time. Council members and chairman I am Lynn Cruz 3023 South Atlantic Avenue. I am a retired teacher. I grew up with a single mother and sometimes barely homeless so I appreciate the situation. But I think we talked about a lot of the details. I think the most important function for the County Council to remember is that they are in charge of the safety and the health of the county residents. I think you take that very seriously, and I appreciate that. The most important use, I think, of your economic development dollars is to do something about this ongoing homeless problem that we have been addressing in so many different ways. I hope you will bring your decision to a good conclusion for all of us in this community. Thank you for your efforts.

Thank you, ma'am. Sterling Goza.

Before I start my name is Sterling Goza I live at seven Valley Drive in Holly Hill, one house away from Hope Place. Before I start, I would like Dr. Two items for the record. A letter from a neighbor not able to make it because they had a prior -- asked I submit this.

What we do, we will go ahead and have your 3 minutes and submitted because has to go through the clerk. Afterwards, she will make sure we all get a copy, that I guarantee, and it will be in the record.

I also have a copy of an e-mail I sent to each one of you and I would like to do the same thing. I wasn't sure the procedure, I apologize.

That is quite all right, we are all about procedure. Please state your name and address again for the record.

Sterling Goza, seven Valley Drive, Holly Hill. It is for the children. How can you be so heartless to be against this idea? It is already a blighted neighborhood. There are 50 foreclosed homes there. It won't hurt. They are spreading misinformation, those who are against it. They had their chance to speak up. These are all statements made by supporters of Hope Place. And, they are tugging at your heartstrings. We are not against helping the homeless, the children, the single-family's. I have been there. When I came to Florida with three children in 1990, I had no place to live. I had to start over from scratch. I am not a hard-nosed, heartless person. I understand. But what

HUM's turn to do is put a size 13 shoe into a size six neighborhood. They do not have a cohesive plan, their initial application has 69 different activities they want to use. They are saying that traffic will not increase. With all the things they are putting in there, of course it will. Crime will not increase. I beg to differ. In 1999 study by urban ministries and can't state, specifically shows a significant increase in crime in a 500-foot radius of homeless shelters. There is very few studies on this, but I was able to locate one. And I am disappointed in our media system saying that this was all put out there. It was not put out there. Misinformation was put out. Lack of information, obvious bias by the media. I did not even hear anything to speak of, no details until it came to the actual meeting we had. That was forced upon HUM by the zoning commission. They realized that nobody had contacted anybody and try to get support of the community. Which was a big mistake. Even HUM, Mr. Mark Ellis, admitted he dropped the ball in not contacting and dealing with the community. So what you expect? You don't give us information, we get upset. We don't know what is going on. Nobody likes to be led like that. I am surprised at some of the later reports I am seeing in the newspaper. It is a done deal, contracts are on desks. You don't have to be a political genius to figure out a 7-0 yes vote, this will pass, get use to it. What happened? We are not against helping others, we want to help that this is not the place to put it. As Johnny Cochran said, if the shoe doesn't fit, you must acquit. Thank you.

Thank you. I think it was the glove actually. Mike Pastore? We are not going there. Please state your name and address for the record.

Good morning, Mike Pastore, I live in Daytona Beach, street minister to the homeless population don't on a beach. Good morning, I think it is still morning -- in Daytona Beach -- good morning, County staff in the city members of the community, I am here to speak in favor of the Hope Place project. Victor Hugo said there is nothing so powerful as an idea whose time has come. For the past three years, due to the nature of my ministry, I have had a front row seat, observing the professional way that Halifax Urban Ministries operates the homeless assistance Center. The 94 bed family shelter, within the confines of the walls of the complex, at no time was a detriment. They have taken every action possible to protect the family residents. Background checks, both security and a complete focus by management on running a safe and secure environment. I am completely confident that the relocation and expansion of the family shelter to the Hearst Elementary site will be successful. I am not unsympathetic to the concerns of nearby residents, but I believe that the restrictions placed on the project will satisfy all concerns. Now, speaking to elected, you are elected to be our representatives. You are elected to balance these competing interests. The greater good is to allow this very worthy project to move forward. God bless.

Jeanneta Maxi?

I am Jeanneta Maxi I live at 1537 Primrose lane. You are all literally in my backyard. The only thing that separates that school from my house is a 6-foot chain-link fence. Now, I hear all these people around here in favor of all of this. Where is your address at in my community? That is what you need to think about.

Ma'am, you have to speak into the microphone .

Not one person here in favor lives in that area. Not one person. Everybody here for this lives in Daytona Beach, or down by the sea, Port Orange. Nobody disagrees this is not a good cause for the greater good but not for our community. And also on the rezoning it is supposed to help enhance our community? Bringing this into our community is not. Is first property values, we have done looked into it, we are putting our Jose Garcia cell. Yes,

it brings the property value down. We put our house up for some because of this because I have a two -year-old grandchild that I refuse to allow in my backyard because that school is right there for joining my because you all have decided to bring this in to our community and sliding it under the rug without anybody. I had to literally go to the post office and sign a letter saying adjoining property owner because you all had not said anything about this. I had never would have known about this if it had not been for Greg, who lives across the street from it. Do you want this in your backyard? Do you like the way this has taken place? I am a Christian I go to Daytona first Baptist, I disagree but I don't think it should be right in the area. No street lights. What about our kids? I have 15-20 kids playing in front of my house every day. What about those kids catching a bus for school in the morning. Everyone keeps saying the children, what about our children in our community? That you are trying to bring this there. As far as the pastor, no disrespect, the one-mile 2-mile radius have any of you've been past that area? Nova Road in Derby Shire LPGA on the other side is all within a one-mile 2-mile radius. Check your crime rate facts for you get up and say one-mile, 2-mile. Check out where the area actually is. That is all I have to say.

Thank you, Mayor.

Chris Hoffman?

I am not a Franciscan, father Chris Hoffman.

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I am the pastor of lady hope Catholic church 4565 South Clydes more Boulevard. I think all of the members are familiar with Faith but it is a congregation based ecumenical group that researchers issues that affect all of the Volusia County and we do our research to find out proper solutions and we bring elected appointed officials and business community together to solve those problems. We are in support of Hope Place because it is part of the solution of homelessness. It is not the only solution. As you know, we have been a strong supporter of safe harbor to do the things that Hope Place can't or won't do, namely for single individuals. Hope Place is not for that. For those who have drug and alcohol problems, Hope Place is not for that. These are the things that safe harbor is going to do and why it is important as a partnership that we see what HUM is doing at Hope Place in conjunction with what they will help us do at safe Harbor. We recognize that there is a need for shelter, but we believe the best place is in one location for the single individuals. Obviously, as we are hearing from the community, nobody want to shelter in their backyard. As a result of that, we find being near County property is the best solution for the bigger piece that will help bring some individuals , folks are afraid of, it will happen at Hope Place, they will have another location to go to. We are not against any shelters or ways of doing housing in Volusia County, but we recognize however, to spread it out over a lot of different places might diminish the resources available to take care of those needs for the greatest number of people. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. William Barry.

My name is William Barry, 1420 Wildrose lane. A lot of my points have already been brought up so I will try to be concise. The crime issue versus North

Street, originally in the paper in the '90s, they had something said about they did not want to have the homeless shelter there because it will increase the crime. Now, they have a homeless shelter there and they want to bring want to our neighborhood. And, I feel the crime could possibly transfer over to our area and increase. I think zoning for police, E back, fire department and the traffic, because there is basically one way in and out, is going to be a situation that needs to be better assessed. I have concerns possibly about the federal government, who gives grants towards this , get dropped because they were able to acquire them because they would not follow their guidelines. Now, the county is carrying the ball where maybe they ought to rethink that issue about, is this an actual working project versus white did the federal drop the grants. I appreciate your time, that is all I have.

Thank you, sir. Elizabeth stone?

Hello. Elizabeth Stone. I live at 610 Bay Avenue in Holly Hill. I used to be a substitute teacher, so I subbed out Hearst Elementary. When I heard it was closing, it was kind of heartbreaking. After that, when the building closed, I drove by it many times inside empty and deteriorating. I even said to myself one time it would be nice if they would make a homeless shelter out of that. And that was way before HUM was talking about doing that. I thought the property was sitting there, not being used and I just think we need to do something to help these children. I am glad to be part of it in any way. Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor. Gregory Petty? Ma'am, you can go back to where you set

when you came in. Not meaning go back or you came from.

Hello, Gregory Petty, 1528 Primrose lane. Right across from Hearst. I would like to say that none of us in the community are against the idea of helping children. And what is going on and their programs, I think it is great. That they are doing this. It is a wonderful thing. However, we don't want it in our backyards. We really do not want to see this go up in our backyards. I know quite frankly you guys have publicly made your mind up and I'm glad you put in the stipulations and the addendum that you did, that puts a leash on them and will help greatly. We appreciate that. You are kind of like damned if you do and damned if you don't. I understand. This issue,

I adopted a 10 -year-old boy, I know exactly what they are talking about. He was my sister's kid. She died of drug and alcohol abuse. We took him in. I am going to the same thing. The community has to come together you are going to put this in a hostile environment. I don't know how else to put that nicely. You have heard the mumblings and everything going on, everybody is biting their tongues trying to be cool. You weren't at the meeting where the zoning board packed the joint out and everyone was coming unglued. It is a real hostile environment. I think they should rethink putting this thing in there . If they came out it again from a different angle down the road, and they worked with the community, they might be able to put something in there and work with the community. As it stands right now, they don't believe anything they are hearing. The community believes nothing they are hearing because of the way they went about notifying everybody. We had to find with blankets of flyers and get everybody involved. That should've been done way in advance. People should've been super been super transparent, wet in the neighborhood and talk to us. I was able to go door-to-door and see hundreds of people in my neighborhood. They could of pulled up in the neighborhood and walked and knocked on doors, we are coming in, we want to do this, we would like your support. And at that time, they would've heard we don't want this and this and they could have addressed it. We may not be here today, but it wasn't done that way. We all understand that. I think the zoning board, when they voted down, they were there, five people at that meeting, two got locked outside the building, tree inside, they lock the doors because it was capacity and two members were outside. They saw the community and listened and voted their conscience and that is what I am asking you guys to do. Vote your conscience. The people in that area and surrounding immediate area do not want this in the neighborhood. That is really all there is to be said about it. I will hash all over the other points everybody has done and the misinformation out there. Please, vote your conscience and do the right thing and maybe just tell them they need to start over again. Thank you very much.

Thank you, sir. Robin Gauntney? Am I close?

I name is Robin Gauntney, my address is 1000 Walker Street less than 1 mile from the school. I am for the shelter. Because it is already created a hostile environment I think that the community needs to come together and let that hostility go because that hostility will reflect upon that shelter. The shelter is trying to do a great thing. These children are our future. And I think it is well needed. The area the shelter is already in is awful. Again, it is the City of Holly Hill that you serve and protect, not HUM's condition that area is in the condition it is in. I grew up in Daytona Beach in Holly Hill has not changed. I am welcoming the shelter and I hope a great thing comes from it. That is all I have to say.

Thank you . Robin? I would like to introduce you to somebody right there is the mayor of Holly Hill.

Sorry, -- .

I understand. You are just sitting there. I understand he has tried.

Barbara Hurbrand.

My name is Barbara Hurbrand.

Could you give her a hand literally we can't hardly see you at all.

A little stool?

A little button and the whole thing drops down about 6 inches. Perfect. Thank you.

We met , three or four of you. I am still at the same thing that everybody else is.

You need to state your name and address.

Barbara Hurbrand 1505 Wildrose lane, Holly Hill, Florida. I have lived there since 1980. I am totally, totally against this Hope Place. It is not 48 residential area. I am not against the homeless, I feel bad for the children. I was there in that situation one-time myself. I had to go to, a day labor to get jobs or work in the orange fields. My question is not a question, it is put them in an area , you have in the paper 600 acres out there for Safe Harbor, if it has not been shelved yet, they are using 5 acres supposedly for the Salvation Army overflow. There is a place other than our neighborhood. Our community, that we, most of us do not want in it. I am very strongly opposed to this. I have told most of you all this. And I am going to ditto everything everyone else says. I have talked to Sheriff Van Johnson. He is on his way out, he could care less. And, his deputies are the ones that will fall back on. They told me, I will not give their names, they told me they cannot handle upon what they have now. They can't handle the amount listed on this thing. If we have been so misinformed in dates and times, if you, whoever started this project, would have let us know three or four years ago, it would have been different. If Mike Ellis once it there on Anastasia Drive where he lives in South Daytona, move it down there. I am very hostile and I am just over it. I really am. Like I say, if, what I have been reading in the paper , talked with several be personally, it is a done deal keep it shut, keep your mouth shut, keep it quiet, don't tell anybody, this , if it is a done deal is that not breaking the sunshine not because you have already ate up your mind? That is all I have to say.

Charlie Hondren and after that we have

James? Come on up front. These are the last to get people speaking. Unless there is somebody else who wishes to fill out a yellow form after James is done we will go to Council discussion. If you have not filled one of these out and you want to speak please do so now. This gentleman sitting is Charlie Hondren.

My name is Charlie Hondren I reside at -- thank you -- 1512 Granada Avenue in Holly Hill. I purchased a home in February, 2005. Along with my wife, we have my daughter living with us with her husband and three grandkids. I am here today to just, the rezoning of Hearst Elementary school. This meeting today is placed at a bad time, where many of the voices of the community could not be heard. And I am here to speak on their behalf. For the school to be changed into a shelter, for those less fortunate than most. I agree that this needs to be addressed, but not in our community. To bring a shelter into our community will be detrimental. As stated on page 5, article 8 of the proposal, it will impact our area. Not as public health but as welfare and safety to our families and those we are looking out for. I am sure that each and every one of you in this hall right now would not be like oh yes, let's have a shelter put next to our area. Our home is less than five blocks from this school. As it is now. We have issues with the security of our children families and our homes with this. Halifax urban ministry's I am sure is a fine organization, but they have never once came to our door and knocked on our door to say hey, we are coming in we would like to start this. Not one time, not one church has come to our door to address this issue. They have made promises of having an urgent care center possibly fostered by Halifax on the property along with the community garden and training center to further education for those in need. This is to the point now where most of our neighbors, which can't be here today because they are working and can't be heard. As it is now, if this passes, we are moving out of the area. A thank you for your time.

James?

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Anybody else? Mr. Mayor? You have the floor. State your name and address for the record.

My name is James Dick I live at 1425 Wildrose lane. Daytona Beach Florida, 32117. I live a block away from where this shelter is supposed to go. And, I find it interesting there are certain things that are kind of hanging out there that nobody really knows, unknowns. Unknowns create fear. From what I understand, from being here at the meeting today, whenever the seller sells the property, being the school board selling the property to HUM, they can add restrictions to the deed or whatever so that the new owner has to abide by certain rules and regulations. What happens when HUM decides to sell this? and they give no rules and regulations? You are going to take a neighborhood zoned residential and turn it into public with no rules whatsoever. What could that due to the neighborhood? Speaking of neighborhoods, I find it interesting that there appears to be, I am just guessing, 100 people for this and none of them live in the neighborhood. With the exception of a couple. And then there is a handful of people here that are against it and they live in the neighborhood. Just that there should tell you, nobody wants this in their backyard. I want to help the homeless, I want to help all people. But, there is certain things about this that raise red flags for me. It says here that unaccompanied use under the age of 26 -- unaccompanied youth -- maybe my definition of youth is wrong but I would figure the youth would be 17 and under. Because when when you are 18 your old enough to pay taxes, die for your country, served time in prison. So, let's call them adults, let's not call them youth. And they are going to be unaccompanied. Are they going to be supervised? I know these are rhetorical questions at this point, I they supervised? Or roaming the streets? If they are roaming the streets what are they doing? If they do roam the streets, probably no good will come of it. And if it gets to the point where neighbors are worried about crime, which I hate to tell you, it is going to go up. It just well. You look at the North Street shelter, I believe is the name of it, and crime has gone up tremendously. The same thing with property values. They are going to go down. With all due respect to the county appraiser or whoever, they are going to go down. I don't think we want to devalue Volusia County property values. Thank you very much for my time.

Thank you, sir. Mr. Mayor, John Penney.

Good morning, I had not planned to speak but since you called me up I felt obligated to come forward and speak in favor of this project. I have been part of a team, subcommittee of elected officials, I have been working on the homeless issue for about a year and a half now. The frustrating thing is that when we first started trying to tackle the project we did not realize, we realize it didn't realize how difficult it would be because homelessness has many faces. Homelessness to you maybe a veteran. Homelessness to someone else might be children. Someone else might be the chronic homeless person. When we took on the task we realized that we could not come together as we are trying to solve a multifaceted problem with one simple solution. I am so excited to see Hope Place is a possibility now, because it takes the place of a big problem . Where other entities can take care of other problems. I want to applaud the Salvation Army for stepping up, through some federal grant money, we have 0% homeless veterans in Volusia and Flagler counties. What an accomplishment that program has done. If we could applaud I know we would applaud I know you will let them.

I know they really want to. Unless there is any objection by the Council you can give the salvation an applaud.

[ Applause ].

They really did step up.

I stood before you several months ago about it creative project the City of Holly Hill was endeavoring in with the company name synergy building. We were applauded for thinking outside the box coming up with creative solutions for dilapidated it'll schools. This is the same situation. The City of Holly Hill wholeheartedly supports this. We have pledged $15,000 of CDBG funds to this project next year. Thank you. I wholeheartedly support this and I hope you pass it.

Thank you, sir. Is there any other yellow slips? If you want to speak you have to fill out a yellow slip. I can't do it. You no rules. With that we will close public participation and open .

My.

I can't do that -- then everybody. We have been two and a half hours on this one. Without we will go to the Council discussion. Ms. Cusack?

Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you all for being here today. I too M a native of Volusia County. -- I too M -- I grew up in the land. I am the product of a single parent we have never been homeless, but we were very close to being homeless many times. So, we meet here today, to discuss something that is important to all of us. I don't think there is a single person here that does not believe that we are the keepers of our children. I don't think there is a single person here that doesn't have fear of the unknown. But I want to talk to you about what we are faced with this day. We are talking about a school, Hearst elementary school. I don't know, many of you may have lived there when it was in elementary school. I wonder what were your thoughts about having an elementary school in your neighborhood? I wonder if you realize that there were children when it was Hearst elementary that were homeless that went to school there. So I think we need to be very clear that we are talking about people that you -- that are already in your children's schools they attend today. Then I want to talk about the use of Hearst elementary as a Hope Place. Only in America can we have Hope Place. I want to talk to you not because I don't agree that we all fear the unknown. You must remember, now, Hearst elementary is vacant, deteriorating. I wonder what does that do to your property values. And you pay taxes to have this vacant building in your neighborhood. I am just saying same kids that went to Hearst elementary, maybe some of those same kids will be part of Hope Place. I propose that not only we have a Hope Place that we might beautify this place . That it could very well be a gated community. How many of you live in gated communities? It is not a down thing it is an apt thing. How many of you live in gated communities? and the kids that you play, your kids play on the playground with these same kids when they are in school so they are neighbors. They are -- they may sit next to each other in class. I am just trying to put this in its proper perspective. I live in - and across from my church in my neighborhood there is a place

for single parents and children. We've never had a problem that we have a problem it was empty and drug use was common there and squatters? We had a problem but now that it has been painted, fixed it, families living there. This is in DeLand, Florida right in the heart of where I live, which many of you would call the hood. Then, I want to talk to you for a minute. About being mentors to the least of these. I think that you are saying, I am hearing it provides us with a bad feeling , lack of trust. Have you ever taken a pie to your neighbor who moved in? Why not embrace this idea? and the neighbor? Why not just try to make life better? Not because it is next door to you, or if they were next-door to me and I just told you they are in my neighborhood but because it is just the right thing to do. I happen to be a Christian and I would assume that everyone in here has some higher being they would look up to. That says in the book that I read that I am my brother's keeper. And so you fear that your tax property may go down I mean your property value may be decreased. Me be decreased. Is it may be increased? You don't have proof of either. But there is such a thing as place , the size of a mustard seed that things can work well when we work together. You know there used to be a time that they would want me to be in a neighborhood . I probably worked harder than anyone on this dais to get here if that offends my colleagues I'm sorry. It is just the way it is I am just saying. I want you to know I appreciate you. I appreciate your concerns I appreciate the fact that you have reservations. But I also appreciate the fact that we as a community have the responsibilities to provide for the least of these. So Mr. Chair , I would put the motion on the floor, when it is appropriate to do so, that we would have the funding to help lay.

The motion on the floor should be for a rezoning case.

Well

I will rezone and do whatever is necessary.

So you are telling me you are making a motion for approval.

Item 2 case three-16-038 rezoning from the urban single-family residential classification R 4 to public use peek classification. And the applicant, they are again, the applicant is Volusia County schools . The co- applicant is Halifax Urban Ministries and the owner of Volusia County school board, adopting the zoning resolution. That is my motion, Mr. Chair.

Motion made by Ms. Cusack, second by Mr. Patterson. You still have the floor, ma'am.

That completes my remarks, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Thank you Mr. Mayor -- Ms. Cusack. Ms. Denys?

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to take a little bit of a different turn here for the discussion. Halifax Urban Ministries , how many of the Halifax Urban Ministries board members are here? If you are, please -- and is your chair here? Because we have not heard from the Halifax Urban Ministries chair. So this is an important thing because you are looking at the Council here. We are the ones today you have to do the heavy lifting politically. You have the heavy lifting to implement. This is not a small thing that is happening here, and you will be under the spotlight. You will be in the public sector. You will be watched , you will be held accountable. As a board, as an executive director . And I am speaking for myself as well as the community. This is a high calling, high demand. When it succeeds we celebrate. The opposite , we can't go where we have never gone before and failed. I don't believe we will. I want to address the board first. And to the community members and citizens, residents that have spoken, I hear you. And some of your comments are accurate. I do believe that it was overstated at the beginning, what was going to happen at this place. For that, a great disservice has been done to you. It was overpromised. There were comments made outside the venue and probably not authorized very genuinely. You have been also done a disservice, I apologize to you. By the very organized occupied beach Street movement we lived through. I think some of the things we are hearing now, that is what you are seeing in your minds eye. This is not that. This is not that. But then again, with appreciation to leaders who had a vision bigger than they are, bigger than we are, thank you, thank you for your time, the hours, committing your personal name and all the millions of dollars and a commitment from the school board from the county, from Halifax Urban Ministries, this is quite an undertaking. Quite an undertaking. I think it should also be said, I heard the word fear a lot , and I want to address that because currently it is a vacant building. And currently under I believe the R 4 designation, isn't it true section eight housing

can go up currently with no zoning, no meetings, nothing could be done today is that accurate?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay so let's get a dose of reality in between hostility and fear. Today, without having any of these meetings are talking in your communities are having the ability to, for public discourse and media to cover it, section eight housing could go up. No landscaping, no commitment from the Volusia County, City of Holly Hill, nothing. Section eight housing. Years ago, my husband and I were there a few to foster parents for the children 's homeless society. The children placed in our home, I will never forget the first set of brothers we had. One was 31 was five, the five -year-old HIV-positive. It shouldn't have happened, but it does. What I learned with that first placement, went those boys, I would put those boys to bed at night and when I got up in the morning they did not get out of bed. They were in the same position as we put them to bed at night. You know why? They were so full of fear , these boys had never been in a home where they were safe. And they knew if they got out alive they could lose where they were at that time I have worked with nonprofits personally. Outside of elected office I have served as the opposite end of this as a guardian ad litem with the judicial circuit so I went from fostering and creating shelter and trying to unite families within the system to having to be the one to go into the home and take the kids out for their own safety. They literally create homeless situations and get those children placed in a foster home. This is not easy. This task, where we are going, the word fear, I will tell you what you should fear. You should fear those that don't respect families enough and walk away. You should respect the abuse sometimes the system brings upon because I stood and family Circuit Court as a guardian ad litem and I have demanded certain services because sometimes your occupancies do break down. -- sometimes your arteries break down. Like the gentleman from new Smyrna said it is beautiful, there is no promise. What we can do is the best we can do with where we are now and the possibilities we have here. This is temporary transitional housing. It is the proper utilization of resources . The word fear , especially today, don't fear a positive thing to help the most needy and foldable among us. Our women and children are probably the most underserved population that we have. And the teenage boys, the resident the talked about having a house full of 17 -year-olds, let me tell you what as a foster parent, the state thank goodness changed the law for aging out of the system to when these kids age out of the system, it used to be age 18, they were on the streets, no options. I can tell you there are very few individuals or nonprofits or organizations or churches that would take these 18 -year-olds in. They are on the streets. The state has changed that. There are consequences to actions, consequences to lack of options, lack of action. Somebody said we are winging it, nobody here, ladies gentlemen -- ladies and gentlemen, is winging it. You may not agree that we have never done this before. The County Council has never partnered with the school district. This is the building that is vacant, vacant for 10 years. It has got to be an eyesore. What is wrong with reusing public infrastructure, taxpayers have already paid for, in serving the most underserved population and unaccompanied youth that desperately, desperately need services. I would welcome it I think in the community. This is going to be a plus not a negative. I heard the word hostile, hostile environment. I hope that is the last time I hear that word. This is only going to be a hostile environment if the current residents remain hostile. I think Councilwoman Cusack said it very well about welcoming it. It needs to be a mindset change here. We have those we need to fear and there is hostility it is not this. It is not this it is not Hope Place. It is a new day for Volusia. I am proud of what community members have done. It is not easy getting started was not easy and I know years ago

when Troy Kent was executive director of urban ministries and he said stop by my office I want to show you something and he pulled out the blueprint of Hearst Elementary and I said Troy this is beautiful. This is beautiful. But there's a lot to be done. Well been working with the school board, first we had a change in superintendent, that stalled it. Been Troy took a job in Oregon so we lost Troy. There has been a lot of bureaucratic changes, that there has always been the vision and always the commitment from the community to do better and get this right. During all those changes going in the community, there is no way you would take this to a level before there was even a plan. You just don't do that. 's I guess my final comments I would say the sky is not falling. Our most underserved and vulnerable citizens are being lift it up. Hope Place . We will support you. Thank you.

Mr. Daniels?

Thank you Mr. Chairman. I would have to admit this sounds like it is not handled the best. I really do apologize for residents for that. But let's cut Halifax Urban Ministries a break. This is not their job, they are not developers, they do not know how to deal with these kinds of situations, it is not what they do day in and day out. You would expect this would be the sort of thing that would happen. Also my apologies to people in social service, most people in social service business are not confrontational. They do not do well in front of crowds that

are upset. They do not, it is not their thing. They don't know how to calm the waters, they do not know how to address those people. Sometimes when they are trying to they wind up getting deeper and deeper into trouble and that is what sounds like happened here. I am going to vote for this. But we've got another item coming up and that is the deed restriction, the critical parts and if I lived in that neighborhood, that is what I would be focusing in on. The deed restrictions . The deed restrictions are things that prevent this from becoming North place. That is what everybody who got appear and talked had as a model that is what they did not want to happen. Listen to the deed restrictions. I think they are sufficient to prevent this from becoming another North place . That is what you want to avoid and I think this Council has worked with Halifax Urban Ministries to prevent that from occurring. One other thing I heard from some of the members of the neighborhood and that is what they would like is part of this land converted into a park so children could play there. One woman stood up and said she had 15 children in front of her property in the morning waiting to go to school this is in the county, there are a lot of children in this neighborhood to have nothing to do. That is not good. We have a huge piece of property, more than he been -- more than Halifax Urban Ministries needs we could work out were because some sort of playground, building for the children of the neighborhood to use ballfields, basketball goals, maybe throw in a swing set, something. Something for the children in this neighborhood to use and benefit from. I think that would go a long way toward helping out , somebody mentioned landscaping, there ought to be landscaping around this thing. It looks like a minimum-security prison right now. I would not want that in my neighborhood I would want some landscaping, I would want to get is red as much of that chain-link fences I could. The main thing is to have deed restrictions that prevent this from becoming North place number one and number two to have something for the children who live in the neighborhood so they have a place to go play, go congregate. Something to do besides just hang around in the summertime and figure out what to do. ID no if I was in that position growing up whatever we found to do was probably not the best. So that would be the thing I would pay attention to if I were the group here. From the neighborhood. Thank you for listening. Appreciate it.

I agree with you. First things first I have heard this 100 times today at least. Before I go there, ma'am? You in the blue their? Stand up. Where do you live? You lived behind the school? Within the one-mile and you are approving this message? Approving the school? There is somebody here from the neighborhood. A couple of them. The statement -- thank you very much -- statement of nobody here lives near this thing approves of it well that is not right. This is not a shelter. I have heard it all day 100 times. It is not a shelter, folks. This is temporary housing for individuals who like anyone of us in this room one paycheck away from being homeless. You don't make that paycheck you don't pay that rent the landlord comes and says you are out of here. Some of us are lucky have a mortgage, three months before they kick your tail down the road. And you are that close to being homeless. Everybody just about. That is what happened here. These people are having a problem . It is not for mom and dad. For may I could not go there, I don't have children. This is only for the children. It is not only for the children, it is for the children, mom and dad or mom and children not just children, that is why this is designed the way it is. It is not a prison. It doesn't need to have a 12-foot chain-link fence with razor wire. But it has this huge chain-link fence because it is a school and that is what schools do , they put chain-link fences around the not so much to keep bad people out but to keep kids in because otherwise they jump out of there and play hooky. Or not show up. They are doing it to secure their interest, their investment, their children. That are there during the seven, eight-10 hours a day in school. Let's look at the positive points. This is something positive and I don't think anybody around here has thought about. If we empty North Street facility and take these family and children and move them here, you just opened up a 200 bed homeless facility for the chronic homeless. It's a fact, that is where it is. Sorry , don't be afraid to say a folks. We open up room. I have worked out there. I used to work in a warehouse I know what that place is like. It is not because of them, it is because of the surrounding area and people taking advantage of people down on their luck. I have seen it all. We were sitting here and some lady said Derby Shire. When I was a cable guy I used to ride out to Derby Shire Avenue all the time doing cable for Time Warner, bright house, we don't call that a slum, that is not what it is, it is a neighborhood. Some areas are worse than others but that is not because of the neighborhood, it is because of the good people it is because of the bad people in the neighborhood but it has nothing to do with almost people, just that people who live in a bad neighborhood that really don't care about their neighborhood. The crime, I have seeing the stats, one-mile, two Miles, I have seen it. It is there. This may help this thing. Everybody keeps saying that my neighborhood. Not your neighborhood, where? Show me a school somewhere else or facility that is ready that is on the area that is most affected by these children and families and let's work with that. But nobody can do that is there isn't another place. The school does not have , the education department in Volusia County does not have several empty school buildings. I have one. The other when they sold to synergy. They get sold off quick. Here we are, folks. This is what you get. We will work with it. And I really do wish people would quit taking a homeless person at face value. Been there, done that, lived it. As a matter of fact about four years ago, I met a homeless guy and I said I am better than anyone else because I said hey buddy, how are you doing. I need a buck I have a better idea let me buy you lunch. About the guy lunch we sat down, shot the breeze. It wasn't fancy, Burger King. Three years later the guy moved out of my house and bought his own house. With cash. Because he was hard-working, looked like a homeless guy, but he was a hard-working individual all he needed was a hand up and he took off. He lives in Ponce Inlet now in a house that cost twice what mind us that he was living in. And yes he paid rent. I think he is Jim's neighbor. So this has taken three, four years, a long, long time. The first time I heard of anything like this is about eight, nine years ago. Veterans were talking about it, veterans, homeless children, families. But our big problem we work at the speed of government, there's nothing we can do about it. We had level upon level, doing everything we can, working as fast as we can and sometimes it doesn't work. Are North Street shelter , looking over my notes here because everyone was talking so much, in a statement that somebody said is we have 600 acres, send them all over there. Send kids and families over there , send them all to the 600 acres to what tenth city? You will build 10 city and for children and families into? the storm we had three weeks ago, we had problems, people hurt. These are the reasons you don't do that. Plus we are trying to provide a safe haven for these families and children. Children and mom's need to be taken care of and safe. If you put them out there in a 600-acre field with a bunch of, as we have all heard, deviance in the world, unregulated unprotected you will have worse problems then you have got now. So celebrate, folks. I really think we should be celebrating instead of arguing about these little things that really we can't change. We have worked hard. We have created one of the very first what they call three P programs, which is a private public partnership. We worked with a private industry, thank you for working so hard with us on this, working with the city's, school board, this is unheard of, unprecedented and this may actually end up being a model for other cities and counties and states to look at and say we've got these homeless families, and we have empty schools. Due to popular belief in this government if you put one plus one is still equals two that is just taking sense. You have homeless families and an empty school. Put them together and it works. Your security issues, all that stuff, I did my internship in a middle school when I went to college as a teacher. The students that have homes are sometimes worse than the students that don't have homes. I knew a couple kids that were homeless. Slipped them a buck or two so they had lunch and I was there. But the kids that had homes were worse. They were the ones causing the problems the other kids said I don't want to mess up this is where I eat. The reason my am talking so long because my screen is working so have no idea who to call I guess sure Patterson we will turn the mic over to Mr. Patterson.

Thank you Mr. Chair. And I do have a question, I will lump it into two -- into one and make a statement. Mr. Dinneen, I know there was a comment made regarding security and deputies also regarding landscaping. You addressed -- I want to make sure probably in the current situation probably the deputy making a comment that we don't really have the resources that at this point I can assure you Council pays for all of the deputies. It is not a separate organization. The sheriff is probably one of the best in the state, probably one of the best we have ever had. He has talked to me. We have agreed he does not believe, neither do I, this will create any additional burden on police or any additional problems. What I said is I assured him he would have adequate many even if he had to use overtime, that is my authority. He can put whatever patrols he felt were necessary. He told me he would monitor and see what he needed to. What we could do if you would so choose because I will work with the sheriff, if we want to make sure people felt, even though we don't believe it is a problem, that they are guaranteed we can start patrols when they first start to make sure and if they are not warranted and they aren't we will no. We can hear and see I will make that affect if I say it will happen will happen. Bottom line the money that authorizes that comes from this Council. Of Council decides he would like me to start patrols in the beginning to make sure there is no additional problems we can do that. The next part is the landscape. I know a number of you brought it up and I talked to some people individually. There was no appropriation or no amount of money in the preparation asked of Council for landscaping. The reason being is that HUM and the private sector group that will try to get donations try to ask for what they thought was the minimum amount has it is a lot of money, to get the job done. We talk about what that amount would be. That is $3.5 million. We paid an extra $200,000 to the school for the land. I agree, from the standpoint of how the building looks today, to enhance the neighborhood, yes. Could we make it look a lot more attractive out there? with the appropriate landscaping and maybe make changes to the fence, I don't believe that is in the money they asked for. If the Council would like us to do that, which probably is quite appropriate, all you have to do is instruct me. What I would do is do a landscape plan. Obviously it will take time for them to do construction. We could circulate that in the neighborhood to make sure people like the plan and if the Council so choose we could actually implement that ourselves at our cost. Do I think we could make the property, maybe Mr. Daniels description, I won't repeat it but maybe is all too accurate sometimes institutional schools look like a neighborhood. I think we could get on the concept as Ms. Cusack said which is more like you see in gated communities that are landscaped and also what got lost in this, one of the requirements of Council is where an entry-level or entry portal that is single like you have any gated communities of people have to go through a secure portal so they know who is coming and going in the facility. You can incorporate that into the design that would include landscaping so we can do that.

Mr. Manager, I really do think we ought to get consideration to the playground idea for the children in the neighborhood. It is a large piece of property in which children in the neighborhood are going to be looking over the fence seeing the people who live there play basketball, baseball, pro football, have room to do that kind of thing and they will be excluded .

Mr. Daniels here is what we can do. Obviously we have to work on how this would work between HUM and attorneys in terms of the agreement we have. If you would like us to look into that, obviously you don't want to do that if the neighbors don't want it. There is two ways of doing that. Want to have, we are talking about helping, especially a larger community like that, we could come forward with a different recreation program in terms of equipment that we could justify more equipment. You could do it two ways. You could incorporate it into the design of the open land there for HUM which would allow co- use or you could actually speak, coordinate off. Of people were more comfortable with you could have one area open to the public separately fenced that is obviously not the people at the facility would have to go to the public side to use it but you could also keep that so it really isn't 8 mixing all the time. I want to do that Mr. Daniels, only after you heard back from the residents should you vote for the.

I agree completely.

If you would like us after you vote, I will assume that after you vote if you move forward if you give us that instruction we will have time, if this goes through to build this we can work on how that would work. But we would be glad to look at that. I think if you did a public playground that was larger in terms of serving the community you could justify putting in more extensive equipment.

I agree completely, the neighborhood should be brought in and done the way we want it done. What it comes down to with landscaping and a playground with very little money we could make this a nice amenity for the neighborhood.

Thank you .

I get to follow up after you too.

I appreciate it. I will save more comments after Pat. In regard to an issue that came up with fencing we are talking about shrubbery, things like that. We may want to look into changing out the fencing.

Yes.

Both from the neighbors but also the safety of the kids on the playground. The vinyl fencing is a better solution, expensive, I get it but something to look at.

There are options I will tell you I can come up with options, fencing is not very Chief, very attractive and we could change the whole look of the place. What I would need his direction from Council to do that. Do I think it would be justified? Yes. To I think I could accomplish that? Yes. I would suggest anything that we absolutely are going to do for example landscaping for sure. The playground equipment and how we do that, after we figure out if the neighborhood wants that. Say landscaping and what I committed on patrols in the beginning. But I would suggest is it is like the restrictions put in the following documents is that the real process today doesn't matter what went on. The process is this county Council. Today is the big hearing and this is the group that gets to decide. My responsibility to the County attorney is to make sure what they want is implemented and we are very much crossing tees and darting eyes. -- dotting trap for all of you concerned should get concern so you know what those are enforceable and will be enforced. And the same if you tell me what I would suggest is you put it on the record about the landscaping and patrols because I learned a long time ago, faded ink is better than faded memories. What is in writing is what matters . We on the administrative side would never put anything down. Only the Council could restrict this. We would never put anything to writing that could not be enforced. This isn't just we hope you follow along, there will be no deviation in terms of the things I think people legitimately feel but fear. They will not be allowed and not be tolerated. Know if and or butts about that. It is what we have are as good protections as you will ever get. So if you put those in writing by your minutes that you want landscaping or patrols and those are in writing also.

Let me get back to what I was going to say here.

You still have the floor.

I do.

I will say with this issue this is an first Roadeo. About 20 years ago we had a similar situation in my district. And it was going to be a home for teenage boys and it was a lot of screaming, hollering and really angry people sitting in a room. All the things that were going to happen to them as a result of these young men in the neighborhood and I will go into all the other specifics but I remember after we got started about a year later I went to the project, in a residential neighborhood and I looked around and some of the people in the room that day opposing it were over there working with it some were tutoring, some of the men went out and bill a basketball court for the guys, some went and cooked meals for the young men. They found out it wasn't the ugly scene they thought it was. I have seen this happen before and I am hoping this is what happens here is the community realizes this is not as ugly as they seem to make it out. My wife and I are both educators and she taught more years than I did but we have worked with children over the years that were

-- parents needing something, they are doing very well. This is where my sympathies lie. As a Council member use it up here and sometimes you have to think with your head and sometimes you have to think with your heart. Sometimes I am fiscally a conservative person and sometimes when I think with my head I will go against something as I don't think fiscally it is the right thing to do. Sometimes I think it is the right thing because thinking about it is right. Sometimes I go against something because in my heart I know it is not the right thing to do and sometimes in my heart I know something is the right thing to do. This situation is something not only in my head but my heart because I do feel that from a fiscal standpoint this is the right thing to be doing and from my heart I feel this is the right thing we should be doing. Let's get on and get this over with.

Thank you. Thank you Mr. Patterson. Mr. Wagner? Closing?

Mine will be broken up and parts based on the items before us. I have a lot of thank you's to make. This is directed to the neighborhood. Those in the neighborhood raise your hand so I know who to look at? Thanks. First and foremost my apologies. I know this is hard and the reason I am apologizing is this is a rezoning issue and we are changing the use. As elected official I don't live in your neighborhood. I have lived in similar neighborhoods, different names. I know this is hard, I know we are making a big change. For that I am sorry. I deeply am sorry. Because the other part of me that represents the county, I have 100,000 people in my district, but the county from a rezoning standpoint I have to ask the question we do a lot internally as Council members if not now then when if not here then where. And I am stuck with that issue when it comes to rezoning of what do I do. It is hard for me to tell you I am not significantly changing your life. I don't take that lightly. I hope if I was leaving here, I would be cursing my name and I respect that. I am okay with that. I totally understand and for that I am sorry. From a rezoning standpoint I think it makes sense for what we are trying to do . There are big things we are trying to solve on the County Council this been one of the biggest, especially when it comes to kids. I don't want to talk about the positivity, I will save that for another item out of respect for all of you, the neighbors dealing with this change. What the councilmembers have said I think in a items will protect some of the things. My next part is thank you. I want to thank you for engaging with this. Six months ago, four months ago Jim Deneen said this is the greatest project ever which he always says. He did this when he was actually right on it and the most significant. Know when is against it and I guess we really tried to get the word out, not sure how that happened. But you spoke up. These, which we get into later, restrictions are because of you. I thank you for your engagement. This project is a better project. I feel better I am leaving in six months because of the restrictions all of you have helped make. I hope you can respect the fact and realize you significantly change this for the better. You protected future land owners and everyone around there, this will run with the land, it is not if HUM goes away, it goes away it will run with the land. Again, I am sorry but also thank you for engaging, thank you for being part of this and thank you for really helping me with e-mails to support these restrictions beforehand. I don't think are needed until you made your voice is known. To the neighborhood I appreciate you. Thank you very much.

Okay, and of council comments we will now move on to the votes. Motion on the floor is approval of case Z-16-038 rezoning from urban single-family residential classification to public use classification . The applicant is the Volusia County school Board, the co- applicant is Halifax Urban Ministries think. The owner of the property is Volusia County school board and adopting zoning resolution. All those in favor please signify by aye. All those oppose? So carried unanimous. Now, move on to item 3 are we good here? Item 3? the transfer of title 1340 right Street Daytona Beach to Halifax Urban Ministries with condition and restrictive covenants . If anybody out there has got there I've had with them, you might want to look at this one because this is where we are talking about restrictions. Mr. Deneen?

Mr. Chair as you know draw the discussion that to take care of all the actual legitimate fears people have and the stuff that was out there that started to get the notion this was going to be something other than what we know it is going to be as housing for children and families, we will get into the details of the restrictions that will run with the land.

Deputy County attorney , pursuant to section 125-38 of Florida statutes you are permitted to grant a nominal value land to either nonprofits or other government entities attached to this agenda item is a resolution declaring the property to be needed for a public purpose and community welfare. Under the condition that the declaration of covenant be recorded, the declaration of covenant is attached to the resolution and incorporated therein. Since the agenda item was originally drafted -- drafted as a minute there have been some modifications to the declaration of covenants and to the county deed recorded as part of this transaction. Those red lines marked copies provided at the back of the chambers for people to read as well as at the dais for you. Specifically, we made some modifications to the first restrictive, then -- covenant that better clarifies the property shall not be used for emergency shelter for single persons or families without children. By removing the in common changing the preposition the sentence reads much better and it is clear it. Place we added additional language to ensure that the co- located government services and other recreational and assistive services are provided we amended the restriction number 5 to the covenants and restrictions and to the county deed. At this point we would ask you to approve the transaction, approved the resolution with modifications to the declaration of restricted covenants and the County did. The issue of landscaping and the playground we would address and the grant award agreement which is the agenda item after this. I will address those concerns at that time.

Very well. Do I hear a motion on the floor? Motion approved for Mr. Wagner second by Mr. Patterson. Further discussion Mr. Wagner you have the floor.

Just that I think these restrictions again are needed and appreciated and again at the neighborhood for bringing them up. Making us aware of some of the things that are concerning.

Any further discussion by Council? Further discussion all those in favor of the transfer of the title of 1340 Wright Street Daytona Beach to the Halifax Urban Ministries with condition of restricted covenants please signify by aye and all those oppose? So carried unanimous. Item 4 is a buzz it resolution -- budget resolution grant award agreement with urban ministries for $3.5 million for construction of Hope Place . Mr. Deneen?

This is the grant award that will make this real in terms of the money. Ms. Seaman is here to go over the agreement one thing we need to make clear the landscaping and patrols. I think you should

-- they should be on record that you are wanting me to do that. The landscaping would not be part of $3.5 million it would be a plan I would bring back, circulate with the neighborhood and bring back to this Council. We would pay for that and the patrols I would take care of so you may want to put this, you put it on the record in writing that it is real and not just talk today.

At least I would like something about this playground Mr. Daniels is talking about .

We are investigating that. I will come back. We have time. You want to investigate I will come back with a plan. We should get that on the record too.

This is one of the times when we want landscaping too, to work with the neighbors what you want azaleas,, what you want , working with them. I am sorry to see a lot of them have left but I think that would be a good time to start.

Ms. Seaman will address that.

Thank you.

Filling in time while you stepped up.

Jamie Seaman, Deputy County attorney. Because we just authorized conveying fee title to Halifax Urban Ministries, in the event that you would want to build the name of a playground on a portion of this property they would have a conveying fee title back to Volusia County at that time. So what I would do, suggest, to the grant award agreement under article 6 I believe there is lettered paragraphs, general provisions I would add an additional general provisions that HUM agrees that upon request by Volusia County to convey at no cost acreage sufficient for a neighborhood recreation area back to Volusia County . Volusia County has, I do not know the time. , someone needs to get me a time. to make this request at which time the paragraph will become null and void that we give you sufficient time, be it a year, six months, whatever, we could agree with HUM , they would agree to convey that portion of the property back to the county and at that point Council could put in the neighborhood recreation area.

You said this was (multiple speakers).

I am suggesting we add such a paragraph to article 6, general provisions. I would also, because HUM will have fee title to this property and we would have to ask permission to access

the property I would ask for another paragraph to be added that states that HUM agrees to allow the County of Volusia to enter the property for the purpose of placing landscaping and fencing at the sole cost of Volusia County. That weight you will have the right of reentry onto the property to put in the landscaping and the fencing that you are going to have the manager bring back the plan for. What I would ask for is someone from HUM who has authority to not there had to please come forward and let me know

if these provisions would be acceptable to Halifax Urban Ministries. We may need to tweak some words here and there to have some fine lawyers working with me but in general those are the two paragraphs I would add to the general provision.

Those provisions are all acceptable to us, those are things we kind of wanted and envisioned in the first place for the neighborhood so we would be happy to do whatever is necessary to accomplish that.

With that I would ask you to approve the grant award agreement with those two paragraphs being added.

Okay. Do I hear a motion? I will go to Mr. Wagner.

I will put the motion out there, grant approval with the two paragraphs added.

Okay .

And then I have, seemed to think two years is sufficient time?

If you do, I do.

Two years.

Three years . Anything else?

I have comments. Why don't you make them.

Not too happy -- now onto happy comments this is the best project I have been part of. I will spare everyone from my childhood horrors in times when things were not so good and I will grab handkerchiefs. [ Speaking Emotionally ] it is a big deal. Thank you. Thank you for letting them do it everyone talks about time and commitment that a lot of board members I know work for corporations they either own our friends of them, friends of mine, a friends or other citizens in this community, a lot of time and a lot of money invested on the volunteer time. There is a price to volunteering when you are not retired. Although I get paid to be here, it is different when you are working. From a personal standpoint, this is going to save lives, this is going to allow kids to dream. This is going to put dignity where it is not. Everyone talks about having shelter, a place to go. This is about having a home, dignity this is about feeling good as a kid being in a good environment. There is, the first part was hard, I wanted to separate that from the neighbors. These are happy tears I am absolutely ecstatic to support this project. I am so proud of my community, so proud of the volunteers, proud of this government and I am dam proud of this Council. I can tell you it is a great deed -- a great day to be in Volusia County. This will go down to me as one of my largest, most important legacies. I will look back and really feel good about my time here. Thank you .

Mr. Patterson? Go ahead and top that.

I'm not going to try. What I am going to say is the important part of this legacy is we make darn sure that there is $3.5 million and the people we are interesting and to that we don't have any hiccups because everybody is watching. If something goes wrong you know it will blow up. I want to make sure everybody from us all the way down the line to the guy mowing the grass or whatever that we are going to exercise and be fiscally conservative I should this project comes in on time and under budget or maybe even at the budget. That is my point. Very important to me because that is very important to the entire success of this project.

I too and very glad to be part of this particular process and project. I can't thank you enough . I don't know how many times I have to thank you probably 10 dozen? I am sure I have a couple more. Thanks, HUM, for working for us and Mr. Wagner it has been an honor and pleasure to work with you on this project thank you very much. Unless there is further discussion, I was going to go to votes, Mr. Deneen, do you want to say something?

Somewhere in the process you still need to specifically vote to have me start the patrols. I want that on the record so nobody can say we did not, after this motion. I will ask for that.

After this motion. We need a motion to start the sheriff's patrol in the area. After this motion cap modify this motion at the financial motion in this motion is budget resolution grant award agreement with Halifax Urban Ministries think for $3.5 million for construction of Hope Place with the two additional paragraph allowing us access back onto the property for landscaping.

For HUM to convey property for the recreational area the neighborhood recreational area.

What she said. All those in favor signified by aye and all those opposed 7-0 unanimous. I will entertain a motion for sheriff's patrol in the area, additional. I have a motion do I hear a second? for the discussion? Mr. Deneen you have a discussion? See no further discussion all those in favor of additional patrol sheriff department patrol and the area of Derby Shire please signify by aye all those opposed so carried unanimous 7-0. We need to -- Mr. Chair?

I would like to add one comment I think it is really important to any of the future projects that is important projects are, as -- the best mostly expressed, it really important to this community, I am proud of all the councilmembers. The matter how important the project is, this is real important, it still has to end up in the details and a whole lot of agreements. Everything we do like this, I think it gets missed is if you saw the work, I want to especially call out Jamie Seaman, the amount of work up until even today we are modifying agreements, people need to understand that as Mr. Patterson put it we are responsible for every dime of that money, and each one of these agreements has every T crossed in every a dotted and I think this gets lost, I am trying to every project before us especially those we believe are worth considering people understand there is a lot of work and commitment in writing to make these things work. What I want to say in the case of HUM is that they stepped up, they are taking responsibility and they are going to take ownership of this. Nothing will work unless someone takes ownership, which includes operating costs and future direction of that facility. That is the key to making anything work, so I don't want the to get lost. Because what I think we have done here is not only a wonderful thing, but while each agreement they be different, I think what we have also said is it does a lot of work too to make sure it gets done. We all know, working behind the scenes that after signing the document then the real hard work starts. Actually, physically doing this and making it work. I think all too often people, it is a good idea but they have to sign agreements and take responsibility and HUM is willing to do that. That is where the project is in front of us. Thanks to the vision.

Thank you. I know we've got lunch coming in so we need to have I had to item number 7.I need Mr. Palmer and Kelly McGhee and/or Scott Ashley come up front. This probably won't take long. We will take a three minute recess at the request of Mr. Wagner. Is there objection? Three minute recess.

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Mr. Wagner you asked for 3 minutes, your 3 minutes have expired. If I get the Council to join us have a seat, we will be done in a few moments. We want to go ahead and help to item number 7. I am sure the applicant, Esther Bernard Courtney, has been here for a while. Is that you? You can come up and sit up here. I will allow them to throw anything at you. Kelly? Keep an eye on her I have to wait until the rest of the Council shows up we have enough to do it , Mr. Ashley. You have the floor, sir.

Thank you Mr. Chair. Scott Ashley, senior zoning manager for resource manager this is a special exception case for garage apartment. There is an existing developed property, existing single-family home and accessory structure proposed to be converted to the garage apartment use. This did go to the PL RC May 10, 2016 meeting, unanimously voted to recommend this to the County Council recommendation to approval subject to staff conditions placed on page seven - 7- 3 of the agenda item, happy to address comments questions Council has at this time.

Any other staff reporting on this matter? See no further staff reporting we will close the staff report section and open a public participation do we have any public participation on this matter? Miss maximum and?

No sir.

Very well will close public hearing and participation open up Council discussion. I would like to throw this to district 1 if I could but how many acres are on this property?

A 10-acre lot that meets the minimum requirements.

Okay just not very specific. District 1?

Mr. Patterson had to leave.

Okay. Well, then, district 4 moves approval and district 5 seconds it, any further discussion? All those in favor please signify by aye. All those opposed? It is 5- 2 approved. Ms. Denys and Mr. Patterson are not on the dais at this moment. Motion approved, congratulations, Goforth and two great things with the garage apartment. With that, we are going to go ahead and take a lunch break here, folks. So we will reconvene

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Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, today's June 16, 2016 and this is the continuation of the council. We have to roll back to item number five, a resolution providing discounted park entrance fees for military members, veterans and the spouse and parents of certain deceased law enforcement members, firefighters, emergency medical technicians and paramedics. This was something that came to me on an e-mail. I think everybody got it. I sent it over to Mr. Dinneen. You don't look like John and Julie at all. You do but you are going to let her take the reigns. This is OJT for the record state your name and position.

Thank you for your time. My name is Jessica and I'm the coastal director for Volusia county. We are here this afternoon to discuss the board of senate bill 1202. It provides direction to do either a full or partial discount on park entrance fees. I worked with Mr. Tim Bailey of parks and recreation and there are only two parks that are effected, the dunes park and light house point park. On the left of the slide you can see the bill in its entirety. On the right side I summaize for you this will apply to a couple of groups of citizens and residents. The United States armed forces, the reserve or national guard, current members, honorablely discharged veterans, surviving spouse and parents of a deceased member who died in the line of duty under combat related conditions. It will also apply to surviving spouse and parents of law enforcement officers, firefighters, emergency medical technicians or paramedics employed by state or local government who died in the line of duty.

I think you should add lawyers to that.

We can add whatever you would like. [laughter]

That was honorablely discharged. [laughter]

A rare breed indeed.

I'm sorry. [laughter]

That was good.

See what barbecue does for these guys? [laughter]

Okay. Are you done?

It goes into effect on July 1 so we are here this afternoon looking for a little bit of direction from council. Just for your reference we are recommending a 50% discount. The current fee is $10 a vehicle. The annual pass is $20 for a vehicle proposing to cut it by 60% and look forward to your comments.

What will happen is anybody who fits under the standard categories would have a standard ID. It's harder to distinguish we will just take their word for it. There won't be any--

If you are a spouse of a deceased veteran who died in combat you do keep the ID card.

What I'm saying if somebody says that and doesn't happen to have the ID card, those we'll take their word. We don't think anybody would lie over that. So we started at 50%. The council would decide if they want to do more. I wouldn't want to do less.

What pays the balance.

Money we don't get in, that's all.

Mr. Lauery.

I wanted to see that chart one more time of the numbers.

It's only two parks that we have.

I'm just wondering if we can't do better than that. I'd like to hear my colleagues thoughts on that.

You do have the floor. You can make a motion as to any amount you would like.

I can but I would like to see what somebody else might be thinking.

Why don't you make a motion and let's move it along.

Make the motion and if we don't like it trust me.

Well let me ask a question how much is this involved? Is this really going to be all that much?

It will not impact us financially to any large degree.

Why would we even charge at all? That's my thing.

The only question is I guess it depends on your philosophy.

I guess someone might take advantage of it if we did that.

People start asking why don't you start doing everything for all kinds of groups. I think there's a philosophy that you should pay something.

Okay.

I started at 50 because I didn't think you would go lower. If I went lower it would be harder to go above me. And I've heard from council members who believe people should pay something or they lose perspective. Also it doesn't look like they are getting in free other people are paying something so people start saying I want some kind of discount.

These are small amounts so I'm happy with that. I'll stay with that.

We can make up the money by charging the lawyers double. Yes Joyce.

I was just going to say that I agree 50% is quite a discount.

You did make a motion?

I was in the process of getting ready to.

Because you sat back I figured you were done.

No I'd like to make a motion we adopt these rates.

I second that.

Okay motion made of adoption by Mr. Lauery, second my Miss Cusack. You still have the floor.

That's what I was going to do but that's fine. I'm good.

Okay. Any further discussion?

Only that we keep a record and we'll figure out next year how many people took advantage of it. Just so you know.

And if it's not substantial we can change the amount if you wanted.

Go ahead and move forward.

We are moving forward. All those in favor please significant by aye.

Aye.

And all those opposed. So carried 6-0. Mr. Patterson has been excused. We move on now to item number 6, 7 has been adopted. Item number 6, approval of extension of service director Mr. Jim Dinneen. You have the floor sir.

I'll let Donna handle this and we are happy to have the newest potential candidate should I say for our extension services.

Good afternoon members of the council, Mr. Chair. Donna Butler community services director. I'm pleased to introduce to you today Dennis emergency. He is the state candidate and he has over 30 years of experience as an extension agent. Began that experience in cornELL New York and moved down to Florida about 20 years ago and has had 19 years of experience in agriculture and natural resources in orange and Seminal counties so we are pleased to bring him forward to you today.

Mr. Chair, distinguished members of the council I'd like to appreciate especially my appreciation to be here. You stole me from orange county. The ranchers and farmers down there are disgruntelled but that's okay I'm excited to be here and have a chance to work with the people here and I want to thank Mr. Dinneen for the effort with us as well and it's nice to be here.

Rest assured we have plenty of ranchers and farmers here so come up to Pierson and we'll show you them all. Is there a motion on the table? Motion for approval. Isn't that what we need?

You are making him nervous.

Sorry Fred.

You have my whole hearted support. [laughter]

You didn't fold under pressure. You're in.

You are there man, you are there.

What was in the brownies that we ate is what I want to know.

They came in from Colorado.

It was less than 20-grams. [laughter]

Just kidding. See what I got to work with.

Motion so moved. By Mr. Loweriy and seconded by Mr. Daniels. Any further discussion? Well looks like all those in favor signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed nur the wrong room. So no opposed. Moved 6-0. Mr. Patterson is gone. Welcome aboard. I was over there talking to Dave so we'll be chatting.

Great.

All righty. Now see we were going to be on our way down the road very soon but Mr. Dinneen wanted to pull number eight, 11, 12, 15.

I'm going to touch on these real quick myself.

Go ahead.

I only pulled them because sometimes it's my responsibility to highlight good news and as we pass through these item 8 that's license agreement on TSA precheck. I just wanted to pass along it worked out so well they are coming back and the demand has been unbelievable in the way we've addressed people's needs in terms of the way we handled them and getting them through the line. Nothing but acre laids. Once again it's a service that I think people really appreciated at our airport.

Hold it. One moment.

You got to--

I'm happy we are making $8,000 on it. Do I hear a motion?

Moved.

Seconded by Mr. Wagner. Further discussion. None all those in favor signify by aye. All those opposed. So carried 6-0. Item 11.

I'll let Donna give you something real quick on this but this is really good news for citizens. Donna?

Again Donna Butler community services director. When we brought this forward in the agenda conference the manager said this is once again homelessness prevention. We got extra money from the state in an additional 380 families will be served with these additional funds with rent assistance so really good news for continuing efforts.

Part of the $13 million that we use every year to help citizens keep from becoming homeless. Because believe it or not an ounce of prevention is well worth a pound of cure.

Absolutely. A lot of these are families that by one paycheck or one utility bill they are homeless.

That's right.

Number 12--

Ah.

Oh sorry.

Motion and seconded. Further discussion. All those in favor signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. So carried 6-0.

Number 12.

What this one is just showing I like to highlight when we are doing things to save money. Steve do you want to make a quick comment on this.

Good afternoon Steve sharer general manager. The item number 12 is for a contract of purchase replacement engines. Part of our normal preventative maintenance program is engine replacement on our buses. We replace every 250,000 miles. The FTA required we keep buses for 500,000 miles or 12 years but through our preventative maintenance program and regular engine replacements we routinely keep buses into the 7 or 800,000-mile range which obviously was a good amount of money from bus replacement because a new bus costs about $485,000.

So with that just another example of where we are constantly--all this will come home to Rask in my budget presentation at the next meeting. A lot of what you are going to see is we are doing better for the first time ever in revenues but we even do better in expenses constantly looking for ways to cut cost. This is another example.

Do we generate reverend with revenue with the old engines.

There's a core charge of $4,000 per core.

So there's a core.

So the item you see here is the cost for 11 motors with the core charges worked in there so if all of those core charges come back to it the item will cost less than what it shows on there.

Okay, yeah.

Okay. All right entertain a motion. So moved. Second? Thank you Mr. Lauery. Any further discussion? Okay all those in favor please signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. Very well. Now we move onto item 15. Mr. Dinneen.

Item 15, this one I have to make a comment about. We are really working diligently on healthcare not only good quality but to find ways to save money and ensure the healthcare really is effective for our employees and our contract extension to the healthcare corporation for worker's compensation medical and pharmacy bill review is $80,000. We've had good luck with this organization in the last three years at $80,000 a year we saved $8 million.

That's a lot of money.

I want to say that again. $80,000 a year three years in a row and we saved $8 million with this contract.

Miss Denys this is your WOOHOO movement. Acre. Somehow I thought you would be good with it.

I thought you would do that.

WOOHOO.

I know you are all jazzed up. [laughter]

All righty. So any further discussion on this matter? Do I have a motion.

So moved.

Thank you Miss Denys seconded by Mr. Lauery. Okay further discussion? Seeing none all those in favor signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. Miss Denys item 25 is yours.

This is the WOOHOO moment.

I'm ready.

Okay I didn't know Mr. Dinneen if the sheriff, if Mr. Johnson is going to be here.

Did we find out whether he was going to?

I don't want to thank his thunder.

We told him he wouldn't be before 2:30. Hold this for a few minutes.

If he would like to address it I think this is--

That would be appropriate.

I don't want to steal his thunder.

That would be great.

We've only got like three hours.

No I think you'll be done long before that.

No for him.

All right. We are moving on here. After lunch okay item number two resolution renewal of commercial solid waste to waste pro Florida incorporated out of Daytona beach.

That is item 26 sir.

That is item 26. I'm sorry. No I said after 2. After 2. I was just--john? Help.

Good afternoon Mr. Chair, council members. I'm going to introduce reGina Montgomery who had something to do this afternoon and couldn't make it but a good stand in for Lenny if she can go through this agenda item for you very quickly.

Again reGina Montgomery solid waste division a standard five year renewal for a non exclusive commercial solid waste collection franchise for the Volusia county area. Waste pro has been a good vendor. All the paperwork is in order and paid $56,000 in annual revenue and staff would recommend approval.

Thank you very much. Mr. Wagner motion for approval by Mr. Wagner. Seconded by Mr. Lauery. This is the most I've heard you speak in weeks. Any further discussion? The barbecue and brownies, yeah. Seeing nothing all those in favor please signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. So carried. 6-0 Mr. Patterson.

Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am.

Item number 27 the comprehensive annual financial support for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2015. This was also known as the cancer report you have three minutes.

So moved.

Second. [laughter]

I have a motion for approval. I'm taking it. And a second. Further discussion? There is a motion for call to question all those in favor of call for the question please signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. Question has been called. Approval of comprehensive annual financial support for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2015 all those in favor by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed.

Mr. Chair can you tell me who--it was so fast, who made the motion?

I'm telling you I'm just reading. You made the motion Mr. Wagner. You made the second. Josh made the motion.

I had a comment.

Miss Joyce has automotive comment. Please.

The question I ask is I wanted to say to the financial department what an excellent job they have done and we are so proud that you and your staff and all of those involved for what you have done to keep us in a financial and stable position. We thank you all and even though we are rushing I know the room could have been full and we could have had comments upon comments but because of your excellent work you and your staff. [APPLAUSE]

Thank you so much.

Yeah you guys--

Stand up.

By the way, Bernadette come to the podium. They were running by so quick. I understand there was a reason but there is a little decorum I would like to say thank you very much to you and your staff because you guys little known you found something but we were able to get it fixed and it wasn't really a big issue and I really appreciate your due diligence over there.

You are very welcome. Our power point presentation has been posted on the web for anyone that's listening in the audience that would like to review it. We did meet one on one with each one of you to go over the issue so thank you so much for the opportunity and of course thanks to staff for a job well done.

Yes.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much. This is the easiest presentation I've ever had to do. Appreciate that as well.

Don't worry.

Just real quick I would like to bring up Ryan who has been on the job five months and did an outstanding job putting this capper together and the staff behind him have worked diligently and deserve all of the applause that can be given. [APPLAUSE]

Don't worry because we are giving you a break this time because it's getting close to budget season. [laughter]

Yeah we know how that's going to work out. All right we are going to hit the--go back up. What? You voted. You guys shoved it down there so quick. Even Mr. Patterson would have said yes keep going. We are going to go back to item 25.

The sheriff is here now.

In accordance with the Florida contraband act. Sheriff you can sit right there.

This is the first time I've had a chance to sit up here on this side of the desk. So the first official action, you guys are fired. All right.

Second.

That's not a legal motion.

Call to vote.

There's not a legal motion.

I thought it was a pretty good one.

It might have been a good one but it's not legal. I'll still give you the floor though.

Now he wants to get his picture now. [laughter]

Take it now you won't have me much longer to kick around.

We know where--we can find you. Look for the guy driving ten miles under the speed limit with a left blinker on.

That's right and every Thursday morning I'm going to sit you right there and make you quit at three minutes.

Bailiff.

It is a good day because this is the day we get a chance to give money to deserving organizations in Volusia county. And this money we have taken from Ellisit enterprises most of this is narcotics money and gambling but it's the one chance that we have that we get something back from a drug dealer and wish we could get a whole lot more. But as you see we've given away $180,000 this year to local organizations that will help in reference to welfare, school resource programs, drug treatment programs, drug abuse education, crime prevention. And it's a very, very good day when we are able to do this. $50,000 to the Florida sheriff youth ranch, $50,000 to Stewart marchman, $10,000 to the boys and girls club, 8,000 to kids to make sure under privileged children have Christmas. 5,000 to the division, $5,000 to the sheriff's youth foundation, $5,000 in nearby lake county for children who are suffering from terminal diseases if any of ya'll have ever had a chance to be over there you've seen it and it's something and if not you should go over. $5,000 the food brings hope, $5,000 for one Volusia, $3,000 for southeast habitat humanity, $3,000 space center for the girls and 3,000 dollars for the house next door and also appreciate the county council many of these are programs that you have brought to us. And of which all helps we are able to get the money back to them so this is not just from the sheriff's office. This is also from the county council of Volusia county and I appreciate ya'll's help with this.

Thank you sir. And thank you for all you do.

Mr. Wagner.

Well actually--hello? Okay. Actually Miss Denys you have the floor because you pulled the item.

That button was from two items ago so I wasn't trying to--

It's that extra sauce in the barbecue is like--anyway, sheriff thank you so much this is important enough I wanted to make sure we went on the record and gave you the credit and thank you so much for making the decisions and allocating this to these agencies. It's very much appreciated I can tell you that in the community. It kind of warms my heart because we got it from the source that we took it from. So this is recycling at it's best. [laughter]

Well I would like to add something on this. I think recently you saw that the federal government stopped this and it's something we have to watch because they are trying to find ways to funnel it back into their programs and not put it back into our local communities and here is where it's needed once it goes to Washington D.C. you don't see it again and we even have some push in the state of Florida to do away from forfeit your funds and when it happens organizations like this will suffer.

Right and it's a funding source and another good point to be made. So hopefully in the future you will keep us of any changes or threats to this local control issue of what a you do so well for Volusia county so thank you. I just wanted to highlight this and thank you. With that move approval. Thank you.

Motion for approval. Seconded by miss Cusack. I have only one thing to say, Mr. Ben Johnson came to me one day and said I got all of this money to give away. What's your favorite charity he asked me and I said me. He said no, no, no. And he explained it to me. I said okay you could still give to me. I'm a worthwhile charity.

We are in this together. It's from all of us not just from the sheriff's office. We couldn't do this job without the back up and you've given us the resources to be able to do our job and that's very important and people sometimes don't realize the county council has to give us resources and we've been very fortunate to have the working relationship that we do and I appreciate that.

Unless there is further comment all those in favor of donations of various organizations of the local funds in accordance with the Florida contraband act please signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. So carried. On your way out Ben you might want to test those brownies from these guys today.

I'll go back up where I belong now.

They are all gone.

Bring the dog?

Let's see where are we at? Volusia government, water resource combat. Miss Kelly McGee.

We just need a motion for continuance.

Motion to be continued. Do I hear a second. I have a second from Miss Denys. Thank you. Further discussion. None all those in favor signify by aye. All those opposed. So carried. All right let's see next item up is I think this is district 2. Industrial development authority. Any council member may make the nomination. There's one nomination to be made.

Dennis Starke.

A nomination by Mr. Wagner for Dennis Starke to the Volusia development authority. Is there any discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor signify by aye. All those opposed. So carried 6-0. We move to item number 30 which is at large--

Mr. Chair, can we have a motion for continuance on the vacancy?

I need a motion for a continuance. I have a motion by Mr. Wagner seconded by Miss Cusack. Further discussion? All those in if you favor signify by aye? All those opposed. So carried. This one here is--do we have a less shiny yellow INK? It's really shiny. I just have to angle the notebook here.

I was going to say the same about your hair wax.

I don't have hair wax. [laughter]

I wouldn't go around boasting that.

I'm just naturally--i'm just so bright even my mama calls me son so don't go there. All righty. [laughter]

Appointment to the code enforcement board, Miss Cusack.

I would nominate then Mr. Chad Lincolnfelter.

Nominated to the code enforcement board further discussion seeing none all those in favor signify by aye.

Aye.

All those opposed. So carried 6-0. And okay there's no continuance necessary on that one. Southeast Volusia advertising authority district 2.

Debbie will appreciate this. I met with Eric for an hour yesterday and drilled him on everything.

He's a really great guy.

I said here's the deal with the advertising authority. I feel very, very comfortable and happy that Eric is doing this. I'm going to nominate Eric--I also have to put in I don't think they had time to get his Background check back yet so I'll be recommending him barring any issues because they need him to get started.

Don't you want to--wouldn't you rather continue until next meeting.

They need him to get going.

There shouldn't be an issue and if there is they can pull him back.

There's a nomination for Eric.

Yes just a comment I think he will be a great addition to the authority and will represent part of the tourism market down there that hasn't been represented.

Appreciate that. I tried to do that on purpose.

I figured you did. I know Eric and we've used his business quite a bit. The southeast Volusia chamber is thrilled he's been nominated. It's a very good nomination and a little more younger blood in there to shake things up and keep us on the right path. Great nomination. Thanks Josh.

And he serves.

And he does.

He's a surfer.

Another one.

Hold on one second. I'm a little nervous when you say shake things up down there. We've had enough shaking up going on. Okay, so Mr. Eric LUMBERT has been nominated. All those in favor signify by aye. All those opposed. So carried.

All right item number 46--no there is no 46. All right. Mr. Wagner, closing comments? The answer is no? He said no twice. Yeah you did. You said no, no twice.

Excuse me can you hold on one second? I have a low sound here on the audio. One second.

Okay.

Are we good? Do we need to take a short recess.

No. Thank you one second.

Do I have enough time to get a cup of coffee?

Sure.

I'm going to do that. Can't do anything yet so.

Jim--you don't have to come up yet. I thought you were coming upstairs but I need him for my time. I like how you bypass me. Doesn't trust me. [laughter]

Test, test.

Okay we are back. Okay. Mr. Wagner.

Thank you very much, sir. First and foremost the--I have three items. The first one, Jim, are you going to talk about? The lawsuit. I don't want to steal your thunder. I just want to thank the legal department, Dan, of which attorneys worked on this. You and--

Well Larry Smith and Fran Carol and then the personal action Nancy Jones.

I just wanted to put it out there to thank them for the hard work. It made good law and a lot of sense. It was smart legal work. On behalf of the lawyers thank you. On the second one, if possible I'd like to--you know how we send letters when someone passes away we send a nice letter I would like to send a letter to the city of Orlando in orange county of a similar type letter that they are our brothers and sisters and we stand united as well. Short and sweet but something along those lines if that's acceptable.

Please.

Can you put one together?

Go ahead and do that and I'll sign it.

All sign it?

If we could all put our names on it as a council I would appreciate it.

I'm good with that.

Years ago I wanted to--all this talk of doing a children's library and knocking down and Kelly white calls me up a couple weeks ago and says Josh I've got an idea that's a little different and you don't have to knock down any buildings. It's a really good idea and I've been working with Kelly and brought Jim out a couple weeks ago. The city of Daytona beach will pay for and Kelly has contributed for the money she has a commissioner. They wanted to build a kids area next to our library and I told her it would make more sense if we made it to the county library rather than a city because we can control who comes in and out so basically we take the fence they provide, come out of the back of the kid's library and wrap around it and there's a kid's entrance there and the reason behind and I think the council will like it is we've had all of this discussion of homeless people and let's move the homeless here and have these camps and part of the thing is having programmable space like this with the library that's specifically for kids to get people actually to come back into it. Does that make sense? So in essence what I'm asking the council to do and Jim can back me up on it to allow him to have--that's the back entrance of the city library that goes into the kid's library. Not many people realize there's actually a separate entrance for the kid's library. Many people just don't know. So you would--jim can make signage, clean up this area because it needs cleaning up because it's not used that often. Make it more of this is the kid's entrance but go a step further and put restrictions on it to where it actually is the kid's entrance. Right notch they monitor it. I went there a couple weeks ago and Kelly and I walked through and she was telling me all of her ideas. Kelly white is on point on this idea and it's amazing. They stopped us and the librarian was like hey can I help you. We didn't have a kid with us and why wouldn't have a kid in a kid's section so it was great. Jim said he could put some restriction that would make it more kid friendly or make it easier for the librarians to monitor it. But the fence would wrap around the back which by the way Jim do you have a picture of the old a.m. theater? Okay. There's--on the back of the kid's library there's a section that was built to be a theater and if you look at it you think it's a ditch so really paying attention to it it's a full blown theater behind our library you didn't know existed for kids and opens up from the auditorium into this outside theater for kids with bushes in it and stuff. Years ago it was designed like that. And there's a pier and we talked to Kelly and the city about working with us to let us do that as a kid's only fishing pier. Basically what we do is make this city the kid's city Island library, control the whole area around it by the library. Which if we don't do it that way it's non controllable space and never going to work. I think what I need to do and Jim I think has helped me through this is ask the council for me to work with Jim and legal is to make this work out with the city of Daytona beach if the council is okay with it.

Let me show you some pictures. I will tell you that this idea is good enough that if Josh hadn't claimed it I would have.

And I stole it from Kelly. It's really Kelly white's idea.

This is one of the greatest projects of the year, a very good opportunity for the ultimate win-win. This really would be great for kids. This will help them on city Island. It would be a partnership with us working with them. This is so family friendly and it's a whole new level of service without hardly any money. What you are seeing here is the entrance--let's see this is the entrance to the library, the kid's section and you don't even hardly notice you come around the back and it's a separate entrance. Next picture. This is inside for those of you that haven't seen it, it is absolutely gorgeous what we have done for the kid's library there. And our librarians as he said first they walked in front of me and they are asking and when I came through they were like you're here and I said we're cool. What they are supposed to be looking at is single adults are not permitted. You have to be with kids or kids with family. It is so well done and so well coordinated. If you come into the kid's section what we have--next slide--is here's what Josh is talking about if you see the larger area that right there goes into the theater that he's talking about. See the bushes? This is an entrance or way into their little auditorium there. They used that auditorium for all kinds of things in rooms and everything so what you want to do is don't use that as an entrance to this area because there's people using that room. Now what you will see is I'm going to direct you to over here this comes past the restrooms and it's a window now but it's really a place for a door that you could exit directly from the kid's library without going through any rooms. Next slide. This is--hold on. This is the window/really original spot for a door that we could have where you could go through the children's area and come out this door and then what we are talking about--give me the next slide--is you come out of this area and we could start over here and fence all along here so that this would be an area reserved for children and children with families because what they do is a lot of times if they want to have a snack. We also have visitation that happens here. Most people don't know from the courts. Well now they could go outside. We could put some tables out here.

Food is the big part. Most of the people that come with the visitation they like to have food and eat and you can't do it. Librarians really like this off the record for that reason.

Okay. Next slide. So the fence actually would come up here, follow along and go out like this and it would be over here and so you would have this whole area you could be in. We have a fence--at least six foot, really I'm talking about an architectural fence really nice so the bike trail would be here and an area where people can't go in without going through the library, they can't hang out there at night. Now next slide.So the fence from this side would come over here. The water is out here. Next slide. Then you come out and what you see to your left when you come up the fence the new bike trail the city along the bridge this is the entrance to it. Next slide. That would be to your left. Our fence would come out like this along the bike trail. We'd put a gate here and continue over we could fence this and put a gate on this side. What we hoped to do was make this--there's a lot of other fishing opportunities for people all over. What we don't have is you could use if you want a new thing you could conduct this to--connect this to this area. Give you the key go into each section and make that pier exclusively for kids to fish or with family. I really think it is--and the city would do the fencing with us. The bike path could still continue along here. It would be such an asset back there. You already have the investment with the children's library. The other thing that stops you've now made this whole area very non conducive for anybody hanging out because you are not allowed back there and we'll put the fence high enough and I think we could take a gamble and try to experiment with one pier I think that's the city anyway who said they would agree to try to make one pier so you could take your kids fishing. I think it's a tremendous opportunity, a tremendous resource and I applaud Kelly for coming up the idea and Josh for showing me. Next slide. That was it? If you want to give Josh to work maybe we'll try to make something happen.

It's up to the council. I appreciate you allowing me to work with the city and Jim to try and do it. Just trying to change it down there to positive direction.

One thing this does deal with. This also deals with this issue of peopling hanging out or homeless people behind the library. This stops all of that and turns over that property to the kids and I don't think it's much to ask to just make one spot for the kids we have the investment in the library and we can manage it without any additional staff.

Everyone okay with it?

Go forth.

And fish.

That all sums up and Kelly white would really appreciate it as well. She's put a lot of time in this and also I'm not going to tell Jim the idea of the kid's fishing pier was his. Everyone contributed so thank you we'll move forward.

There I am with my kid fishing there. Okay.

Will we be at the ribbon cutting?

I just snorted.

Will the city of Daytona at least recognize.

You are invited on the 14th of July Kelly is getting you invitations right now. I told her to hold off if you didn't vote for it I was going to tell you not to invite you. She's inviting you to the ribbon cutting of the sweet heart trail named after the boat. Now I'm going to call her and let her know to get started on the changes with the fence because she wants to tie it into that ribbon cutting. I'll have her send the invitations and we'll make it.

What I would suggest is we would look at--they would do the fence. You've seen these fences that look like broad iron, something, nice. Really looks first class out there not like concentration camp for the kids. Something really nice. We don't want people coming over the fence so something in that flavor. The other thing is additional landscaping and definitely some picnic tables chairs and places to go outside with the kids.

Shouldn't kids be concentrating in the library?

They would but they can read outside too. The nice thing is the city is going to pay for the fence.

All right.

But Josh hit on something important with this too. In the visitation piece I can tell you as a guardian in light I'm trying to find places that are court orders that you can take the children to with their parents for their visitation time. Not just safe but secretary included so the child can have the time with the parents. You are right because the parents would want to bring treats or this for the child. There's few places and they are usually booked. This would be a great one to let the courts know. Let's get the information out there when it's finished.

The beauty is with the fence you wouldn't have to worry about single adults. You could go out there with your kid if you wanted to sit throughout and eat.

You don't mind but really you don't want other adults out there fishing. It's one little spot to give up.

In the city it actually said at least the legal would actually make it to control the space more we would literally work out an agreement and actually that land we could rent it for a price of like $1.

Right.

So you could be working out legally to control the space and make sure part of the library system.

If they are going to put in the fence I thought we could do the other thing with the tables. We'll bring you a plan is what we would do hopefully with the city. Where the two of us would.

Thank you everyone I appreciate it and those are all of my comments.

My pleasure. Fantastic idea.

All right. Miss Cusack.

Mr. Chair I have no comments.

Mr. Daniels? Ms. Denys.

This is about the children too. I'm going to pass this down. I went to a ribbon cutting for the miracle league of Volusia county the city donated the ball field but this is a non profit. The miracle league of Volusia county is attempting and they will build a field for children with special needs. We have over 13,000 school aged children in Volusia and flagLER county and this field will have a rubberized non surface baseball field so kids with varying exceptionalities and disabilities can take a wheel chair out there, whatever they need and can literally play ball on this field. The Tortugas we had Sheldon out there in uniform in 96-degree heat in the sun. I felt so bad for whoever was representing in that uniform but I'd like you to take a look at this council and go to the miracle life Volusia website because I'm going to be bringing back something next week. They are going to do their first fundraiser ever, a gala I believe at the Atlantic center for the arts and looking for sponsors but I'd like to introduce this organization to you now and I will bring more information on the gala at the next council meeting. But I think it would say a lot for us to be on the ground floor on the first gala to support a project such as the senate community for all of the kids. That's all I have. Thank you.

Mr. Lauery.

Thank you. One quick thing. Several months ago we brought up the matter of the land there next to gemINI springs and we pursued that and were able to get the vote of the St. John's board to convey that on over to us, the process was started a couple years ago and I want to thank some people. Shannon and Kelly who were up here with me and they made me look good. I appreciate that. And probably I need to say thank you to Jeff who texted me and let me know I was right behind the speaker's thing on T.V. and he was afraid I was going to pick my nose or do something like that and told me I probably should move which I did. But anyway we had a good success on that and that turned out to be a good one so that is in the process conveyed over to us and I think rightfully so for conservation and making it a part of the area out there which I think most people are in favor of. That's all I got, thank you.

Okay Mr. Patterson. Mr. Patterson? [laughter]

I like that.

Just keep poking at you and you keep snorting. Yes, the 43rd annual freedom fun banquet on Saturday June 25 at the Hilton. The NAACP will be holding that. And they asked me to come and give the greeting there so I'll be going and giving a greeting and proclamation. But you know what? They still want you to pay for your meal even though they really owe me one because last year they almost broke my nose. That was the place they hit me in the nose with the tray. So I'm going to ask the council if they would care to pay the fee so that I can go eat. Okay.

Especially if they hit him in the nose again with the tray.

Let me tell you what I went down to my knee. I almost was out. Yes, sir.

I have one thing when you get done.

Okay. All righty and so cool. That's pretty much all I got. What do you need Mr. Daniels? How can I help you?

I just want to say one thing. I was down in Miami last week and they were going over the development projects in Miami but they only went over 3 and each one of them was probably about 2 to $3 billion. It is a different world. I thought I would learn something down there but I did not because you cannot even scale it back to our scale. It was absolutely amazing. But one of these like billion and a half to two billion dollar projects was downtown Miami at the train station for all aboard Florida. And all aboard Florida is supposed to be running next year. They have delivered the train did ya'll know that?

If you recall two years ago I know we talked about it but I thought people were smoking something when we talked about it.

They dropped it. That train is there, baby.

Well the other thing.

And they are in negotiations right now for a cocoa stop too.

The other thing that was interesting--

That's what you were worried about.

The other thing that was interesting and this falls in with what happened in Orlando. This is before anything happened in Orlando. You know, they were going over what cities and regions are successful and which aren't and you know how you can tell which ones will be successful and which aren't. And communities that are accepting are the ones that tend to do better than any other type. And the guy that was--had done studies of which communities are successful and which ones aren't was saying that the communities that were the most successful of gays did better did better than anyone else. That was the single--you can look at that marker and it was the best predicter of how well a community was going to do financially because it was accepting and the kind of place where it was accepted and tradition was one of those things that did not loom quite so large. [Captioner transitioning]

>>

Is that all?

Yes. Deborah Denys ?

I am trying to inform you I thought that -- we talked about having their Zika update ?

Jim do you want to come forward?

Why do you look so happy?

I do not want to talk to you guys [ Laughter ]

We will not throw anything at you.

Not much [ Laughter ] >> I was asked to provide the zika

update, let's start with the status. The world worth health organization, designated that the virus is a public health emergency of international concern. That will give you an idea of what the global status is. The number of cases in the US continues to escalate as of June 8, the US and DC was at 691 cases. As of 3 PM yesterday the state of Florida had 147 cases. >> We are having travel related cases, they took place in early May. New Smyrna Beach. That was the best case scenario for us . The population was low, the individuals with the same resident and they were somewhat isolated in terms of where they live in New Smyrna Beach.

As opposed to a congested neighborhood. 20 counties have had emergency declared because of travel related cases of Zika. We reached out to the state, Department of Health receives annual funds from the CDC, it is called a variety of logical grant and they receive $300,000 per year, they received a supplemental grant of $700,000 this year.

The counties who have declared emergencies were able to at least -- put in a grant and request money to augment mosquito surveillance and control, 5 counties have received $500,000 out of the $700,000 available through supplemental funds.

The state is expecting more funds to be released by the federal government in August, we will see how that plays out.

[ Pause ]

I was just

-- I was asked to address potential for cases outside of the district.

Most of the important cases of disease travel related cases since 2012 have occurred on the west side of the county. Between 2012-2016, there are 12 travel related cases of disease that are pinned to the mosquitoes involved in the Zika , should Zika virus come to Volusia County, as opposed to 6 cases on the east side of the district.

There is potential in large part because of the Hispanic population that we have in Southwest Volusia County, for travel related disease to come to Volusia County . Whether it is Zika, or chicken [ Indiscernible ] this is a annual basis -- if you will, we are prepared to contend with.

We are working with any number of different partners on this particular issue. We started at mosquito control, by putting

an article in the news Journal back in April in community voices, asking people to do the same thing that we ask every spring. Deal with containers, this is where mosquitoes will be produced, tip or Tauscher containers that or toss -- tip for toss your containers, we have talked to Rotary organization, hometown news, Fox 35, we are getting the word out . And continue to do so, we have a tabletop exercise that we will take place the first week of July.

The partners and government community leaders and so on, I will stop because I was asked to keep this short, is there any questions I will be happy to answer them.

Yes. Anywhere in the US a case of Zika brought on by mosquito bite?

They are all landing from out of the country, has there been a recorded case of somebody getting

bitten by a mosquito here in Florida or anywhere else getting the Zika?

No. >> We have had a local transmission of dainty -- Dengue.

Very well.

Okay.

Thank you for your time. >> A couple of quick things, I just want to say help out I am of the Council of this morning's action. Database that they they --. they are spending billions of dollars question thank you for the go ahead to look at the children's park next to the library. I think it is something to be proud of and it holds up in homelessness issued by the island and the library.

Last but not least, I will mention I'm proud of the actions that led to the winning of a recent case, the freedom of speech versus responsibilities of public employment . How you communicate with the public. I think this is one of the most important cases that we may face. We will have set a precedent and other places. People are looking at tolerance, this is what this is about.

You have a responsibility know matter -- I am the agent for the all of the -- for all of the employees that work in public, public employees have a higher standard of responsibility.

If you get lost, used to tell my kids, they could always go up to somebody and they would help them. The responsibility of a public employee, they will show no bias in word or action towards anyone. I hope that people feel this in their heart. We control what they say. And how they act. >> My attitude is, if you do not understand that and cannot do that, you forfeit your right to be a public employee. This case says that.

I am proud of the actions that we took and the system worked, I am proud of the attorneys for the job they did representing us, you may hear more about a case. The issue is facing a lot of public agencies. It is important in this country that are employees are legal cement and be unbiased and dealing with people.

Thank you and have a wonderful day today. >>

Councilmember Deborah Denys was discussing the contraband actions today. It occurred to me I should mention -- John McConnell

is retiring at the end of the month he has been with us 15 years. If he is approaches job with skill and the good humor that make people around him feel much better and we will miss him and he contributed significantly to the action that you took today . The actions of the deputies.

Also,

she elected not to be recognized at the time. Nancy Jones retired earlier this year, with 25 years. I want to comment on the personnel aspect of her job. She did a wonderful job, the personnel aspect is sometimes tough and emotional I appreciate her work in that regard and all others.

That is all.

Thank you sir, and a public participation at this time Mr. motion -- a motion for adjournment?

Next meeting is July 7, 2016.

Fred Lowry Jr. and the second by Joshua Wagner.

Okay.

All those in favor?

I.

Opposed?

We will see you July 7.

We are adjourned.

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