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How I would love to connect our families. I can not however see it now. I amdescended from a Thomas Jefferson Campbell who died in 1895. He had lived inCarter Co for many years being a doctor of some sort. He had five wives myancestor being his first wife Emma Zorns. He then married Harriett Foster,Cynthia Brown, Amanda Harris, and Sarah Johnson. It seems that each one wasyounger than the previous. He had many children. Including a Sarah. Ithink the date is off a few years for her to have been your Sarah. She wasborn 18 Sep 1861 and was the daughter of Cynthia Brown. If you see anythingin all this, please lets share. I would love to find someone researching thissame family.Pat KratzWest Des Moines, IA

To: jtgrace@

I am sure now that our Sarahs are one and same. I have written in a family group sheet the name Ross after Sarahs name. Alsosee that someone has submitted that Sarah was one of triplets born 10-12-1857.Others being Nancy and Alice. However, I believe in the 1870 census Sarah is10 and Nancy is 8. No Alice. (which I have seen other sources listing Aliceas Sarahs middle name.) Thomas Campbell was an interesting character. Thisis going to be fun.I could not find his will. If my sister does not cough it up, I am going towrite for it.Do you have a will for the father of your Sarah? It should include lots ofnames that will confirm. If not, only one of us needs to send.I am really excited about this. I was born a Campbell and this line has beena big challange because my father knew nothing about his family. We stillhave never learned where his father went when he left the family when myfather was born. But we have been able to put together his ancestry. Will let you know more later. How much do you know about Sarahs parents?Pat

Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:57:45 -0500From: "Joyce Hamilton" To:

John,I bet you think I completely forgot about you. Actually just got to go tothe library today. Here's some of what I found on Social Death Index, TroyGrizzell, (286-07-2129) b.Oct 12, 1895, d. July 1978, issued in Ohio,resided in Gautier, Mississippi. Demsey Ross, (288-10-7537)b. April 24,1891, d. Oct 1962 Ohio. I wanted to check the 1900 Carter Co., Census, butcouldn't find it, so I checked the 1910 census and didn't find Charlotte,Troy, or Edie. Next time I will be sure to check that 1900 census! Ifeverything else fails, you can send after their Social curityApplications, I sent after one for my husband's grandfather and it listedhis parents. I have the address if you need it. I will let you know if Ifind anything else.Joyce



GENSERV = JG26507

GenServ Report Output: vitals 15 Feb 1998

Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD) (283), born 1 May 1813, Greenup Co. Kentucky, died 26 Apr 1895, Elliott Co. Kentucky. SOURCE NOTES: Married by Alfred Catron J.P. Carter Co. Kentucky at William Harris. Married first, 1 Jan 1836, Emza D. ZORNES (284), daughter of Andrew Zorns JR. (307) and Rachel MCLEASE (308). Married second, Sep 1852, Harriet FOSTER (285). Married third, 18 Mar 1854, Cynthia BROWN (286). Married fourth, 24 Dec 1867, Carter Co. Kentucky, Amanda HARRIS (287). Married fifth, 3 May 1873, Sarah M. JOHNSON (288), born Greenup Co. Kentucky.

Children of Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD) and Emza D. ZORNES:

1 Emsa CAMPBELL (289).

2 Mary Lewellen CAMPBELL (290), born about 1837.

3 John CAMPBELL (291).

4 William H. CAMPBELL (292).

5 Jeremiah CAMPBELL (293).

6 James M. CAMPBELL (294).

Children of Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD) and Harriet FOSTER:

1 Thomas J. Campbell JR. (309), born about 1877, Kentucky.

Married BERTHA (296), born Kentucky.

Children of Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD) and Cynthia BROWN:

1 George CAMPBELL (311).

2 Charles CAMPBELL (310).

3 Alice CAMPBELL (312).

Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD) and Amanda HARRIS had no children

listed in the database.

Children of Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD) and Sarah M. JOHNSON:

1 Lawrence CAMPBELL (305).

2 Frank CAMPBELL (306).

3 Maude CAMPBELL (313).

4 Henry Willis CAMPBELL (459).

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Information is from the DICC6GA database belonging to:

submitter: [Dick, Sharon]

email: [104641.165@]

street_1: [2020 Jefferson St]

street_2: []

city: [Anderson]

state: [IN]

zip: [46015]

country: [USA]

GenServ Report Output: vitals 16 Feb 1998

Sarah M. JOHNSON (288), born Greenup Co. Kentucky. SOURCE NOTES:

I Sarah M. Campbell administration under the wife of T.J. Camp-

bell do make the following report in accordance with the condi-

tions of the will of the late T.J.Campbell which will was probat-

ed june 10th 1895 as appears of record in the records of Carter

County State of Kentucky. August 9 1895 Burial Cabin 18.00 Au-

gust 9 1895 1 suit of clothes 10.00 August 9 1895 cash paid to

Cecil hudgue medical attendance on account 5.00 September 11 1896

Charles Campbell heir 1.00 W.M. Campbell heir 1.00 February 4

1896 Jerry Campbell heir 1.00 Clerk Court appointing hdwe

is in mator 2.50 Married 3 May 1873, Thomas Jefferson Campbell

(MD) (283), born 1 May 1813, Greenup Co. Kentucky, died 26 Apr

1895, Elliott Co. Kentucky.

Children of Sarah M. JOHNSON and Thomas Jefferson Campbell (MD):

1 Lawrence CAMPBELL (305).

2 Frank CAMPBELL (306).

3 Maude CAMPBELL (313).

4 Henry Willis CAMPBELL (459).

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Information is from the DICC6GA database belonging to:

submitter: [Dick, Sharon]

email: [104641.165@]

street_1: [2020 Jefferson St]

street_2: []

city: [Anderson]

state: [IN]

zip: [46015]

country: [USA]

telephone: []

remarks: []

GenServ Report Output: vitals 26 Feb 1998

John William GRIZZELL (6997). Married Cintha PERRY (6998).

Children of John William GRIZZELL and Cintha PERRY:

1 Thomas Newton GRIZZELL (1581), born 13 Feb 1841, Carter, KY,

died 31 Mar 1932, Clifton Hill, Randolph, MO. SOURCES IN-

CLUDE: Obituary in the Salisbury Press Spectator of 8 Apr

1932. Married Elizabeth PERRY (1582), born 15 Nov 1851,

died 4 Feb 1932, Clifton Hill, Randolph, MO.

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Information is from the BROP7AA database belonging to:

submitter: [Brockman, Ellis R]

email: [Ellis.Brockman@cmich.edu]

street_1: [505 Kane]

street_2: []

city: [Mt. Pleasant]

state: [MI]

zip: [48858]

country: [USA]

telephone: [517-772-5054]

remarks: []

GenServ Genealogical Server - DOCUMENT@ Date: 26 Feb 1998

Family Report

HUSBAND: Thomas Newton GRIZZELL (1581)

b. 13 Feb 1841 Place: Carter, KY

Marr: Place:

Died: 31 Mar 1932 Place: Clifton Hill, Randolph, MO

HUSBAND'S FATHER: John William GRIZZELL (6997)

HUSBAND'S MOTHER: Cintha PERRY (6998)

WIFE: Elizabeth PERRY (1582)

b. 15 Nov 1851 Place:

Died: 4 Feb 1932 Place: Clifton Hill, Randolph, MO

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# M/F Childrens Names RECORD NUM

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1 M Hiram Rufus GRIZZELL (6994)

2 M J. W. GRIZZELL (6995)

3 F GRIZZELL (6999)

Marr: Day MC_ADAMS (7001)

4 F GRIZZELL (7000)

Marr: Albert BURTON (7002)

5 F Edna L. GRIZZELL (1576)

b. 1 Feb 1881 MO

Died: 16 Nov 1932 Kansas City, Jackson, MO

Marr: 26 Dec 1901 Robert E. BROCKMAN (1573)

6 F Sarah GRIZZELL (6996)

(sse.dll?db=kentucky&gs=ross&DatabaseID=2003&query=ross&ct=6421

"FIRST CENSUS" OF KENTUCKY 1790

[p.1] HISTORY OF THE FIRST UNITED STATES CENSUS OF KENTUCKY

[p.5] Kentucky Counties in 1790

page 82

Ross, James Nelson 10/22/1792

"FIRST CENSUS" OF KENTUCKY 1790

[p.1] HISTORY OF THE FIRST UNITED STATES CENSUS OF KENTUCKY

[p.5] Kentucky Counties in 1790

page 82

Ross, Lazarus Nelson 11/ /1792

D J. Ross d. 15 Apr 1917 Carter Co. age 62 Years Vol. 17 10236

ROSS LETTIE

County Name: JACKSON Date of Death: 9/22/1918

Volume Number: 2684 Certificate Number: 54642

Posted by Billie Daft on Mon, 25 May 1998, in response to ZORNS,CAMPBELL,

posted by John W. Grace on Sun, 24 May 1998

John, Yes it is the same line, somewhere along the way the name ZORN was changed to ZORNES. I have just

acquired a lot of information on the ZORN family which came over from Germany. I have not had time to sort

through all of the information but I do have Andrew Zornes married to a Elizabeth Jordan and then married to

Rachel McCLEESE. I show them having four children.

I recieved this information from Lin at altcomm@. I have had a difficult time reading what was sent to me

because of the way that it printed out. I thought that I had it figured out but then I discovered that I had made a

mistake and got confused. I have not gotten back to it yet. The other information that I acquired was from Larry

Zornes who has extensive information that he recieved from his own research and the help of Richard Zornes. My

understanding is that Richard Zornes has been researching this line for over 40 years and has a lot of information.

I will find his address and e-mail it too you.

Cathy Abernathy

John,

We definitely have a relation here. I am at home now and can refer to my

sketchy info. My great grandmother was Vandilla Jarvis Whitt. She was a

daughter of John Sanders and Rachael Ross Jarvis.

I also have that rachael was his first wife, her having passed away

somewhere around 1885, his second wife was Katherine Phillips, 1865-1947.

I have very little info on the Jarvis and would be most grateful of

anything that you should share, especially any info about where they did

live, occupations, or anything else of interest. I've had a very hard time

finding anything out. My grandmother was Elsie Whitt Crawford.

Unfortunately for me, she passed away in 1975. There is one sister still

living, Golda Whitt Osborne, and she is a very spry 93. Unfortunately, she

knows near to nothing about the Whitts or Jarvis families outside of her

own parents.

I do have Whitt info and am researching Crawford/Warnock (have good info

here) Binion (good stuff there too) and some Fisher info from my father's

family in NC.

Please email me at cabernathy@. A bad storm is coming out way so

I'm closing down shop for the evening.

Thanks again!

Cathy Abernathy

Morganton, NC

Cemetery Rrecords from Carter Co. WEB site

Ross, A.J. May 17,1848-Jun 11,1914 Ross Chapel

Ross, Addie d/Ellen & Reuben Ross

Ross, Addie Dec 10,1889-Jan 20,1935 Limestone

Ross, Addie Feb 21,1869-Oct 8,1890 Ross Chapel

Ross, Agness H. 1863-1932 Ross Chapel

Ross, Annie E. d/WL&A Feb 29,1916-Oct 17,1918 Limestone

Ross, C. Opal d/E.A.&Agnes 1906-1906 Ross Chapel

Ross, D.J. Nov 6,1854-Apr 15,1917 Ross Chapel

Ross, Ellen d/Ellen & Reuben Ross

Ross, Ellen May 24,1894-May 24,1894 Ross Chapel

Ross, Ellen w/Reuben Nov 25,1845-Apr 13,1886 Tabor

Ross, Emary A. 1869-1938 Ross Chapel

Ross, Escum Clyde (Doc) Sep 21,1925-Oct 20,1957 Bowling

Ross, Eunice d/Ellen & Reuben Ross

Ross, Eunice Feb 2,1873-Oct 27,1894 Ross Chapel

Ross, George R. Mason Nov 6,1841-Apr 13,1905 Ross Chapel

Ross, Harlan Mar 25,1881-May 28,1958 Ross Chapel

Ross, Helen d/Reubin & Ellen Ross

Ross, Helen May 17,1878-Jul 4,1880 Tabor

Ross, Infant of Lula G.&Robert no dates Ross Chapel

Ross, Infant of Douglas & Pearl Conley Ross no stone Evans

Ross, J. Nelson Dec 13,1818-Mar 5,1890 Ross Chapel

Ross, John P. Jun 9,1840-Nov 2,1893 Ross Chapel

Ross, Lucinda Faris no stone Armstrong

Ross, Lula G. w/Robert J. Jun 12,1875-Dec 12,1913 Ross Chapel

Ross, Mary d/Ellen Offill & Reuben Ross

Ross, Mary E. Apr 30,1846- Ross Chapel

Ross, Mary Oct 20,1876-May 7,1896 Ross Chapel

Ross, Nancy J. Underwood Oct 17,1819-Feb 28,1895 Ross Chapel

Ross, Nancy J. Underwood w/John N. Ross

Ross, Ottie Jane Oct 16,1906-Oct 15,1978 Ross Chapel

Ross, Reuben F. Mar 1,1843-Dec 30,1935 Ross Chapel

Ross, Sarah 1858-1947 Ross Chapel

Ross, Stephen Russell Oct 9,1919-Aug 31,1961 Bowling

Ross, Viola H. Jul 25,1891-Mar 31,1896 Ross Chapel

Ross, Viola H. d/A.F. & L.F. Ross

Ross, Virginia d/Reuben Ross

Ross, Virginia Feb 2,1867-Apr 12,1888 Ross

Ross, W.L. Oct 12,1889-May 29,1931 Limestone

Ross, Willie Sparks Feb 10,1871-Feb 4,1889 Ross Chapel

Ross, Willie Sparks adopted by J.N, & N,J, Ross

Sun, 31 May 1998 10:55:18 -0400

From:

Cathy Abernathy

My email server has been on the fritz for the past few days and I didn't

know if my last email got through or not.

I have been at home in my info and I have a little on the Rosses, but not

much. I am very grateful for the info on John and Nancy.

In my Jarvis info, I have that Rachel's brother David married Sarah Jane

Jarvis, who was a sister to John Sanders Jarvis. Sarah's dob is 12/3/1858,

died 1947. David John Ross, born 11/6/1854, died 4/15/1917. They had 5

children. This is all the info I have on them.

I would appreciate sharing other info with you, especially on John and

Nancy Ross.

I can catch my personal email at work now (we have a real computer guru

there now), so email me at cabernathy@ and I can pretty well catch

it there. I check it often since I'm on 4 list serves and the stuff piles

up pretty quick. I talk with Mom today and I'll see what I can find out

for you about geneology resources in Carter County.

More Later,

Cathy Abernathy

1880 census follows:

46 Ross, ? Reubin F W M 37 Farming K KTn

Tirese E W F 34 Wife K V K

Virginia Lee W F 13 Dau K K K

Ada Lee E W F 11 Dau K K K

Eunice A W F 7 Dau K K K

Jessie Bu.ton W F 5 Dau K K K

Mary p W F 3 Dau K K K

Nancy K W F 2 Dau K K K

Harlan W M 2/12Mar Son K K K

Ross, Jerry J W M 23 Farming KTn K

Alice W F 20 Wife K K K

Clifton S W M 4 Son K K K

George J W M 1 Son K K K

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Subject:

Fitzpatrick's Jackson county, Ohio

Date:

Sun, 19 Jul 1998 18:10:11 -0400

From:

Deana Straatton

To:

jtgrace@

I have a little information on the Fitzpatrick's.

My step-father was Herbert Allen Fitzpatrick. His father was Wilson

Joseph, b.1897 in Barleytown,Ohio.(I haven't been able to find

Barleytown yet) d. July 20,1938. He was married to Sarah E. Coy.

Wilson's father was Adolphus,d. May 29,1936 married to Margaret

Cramblitt d. 1955. I have children listed for Adolphus that were born in

Jackson twp.,But this isn't all, I have to find the other places that

they lived. I think they might once have lived in or around Glouster

which is near Athens,Ohio. The children I have are:

John Thomas b. Dec.12,1891; Owen C. b. Jan. 21,1899 d. Dec. 12,1918;

Susie Irene b. Dec. 22, 1900 d. Dec.13, 1918; Talma b.Dec.24,1889 d.

1983.

I was told that almost all Wilson's siblings died around the same time

due to influenza. Besides Talma I don't know how many others survived.

I found a birth record for Catharine M. fitzpatrick b.July 17,1880,

parents A.L. fitzpatrick and E.A. Laudrum. I also found a record for a

Stella b. July 31, 1883, Parents Adam Fitzpatrick and Elizabeth

Landrum. I'm guessing that this is A.L. and E.A. for Catharine. My mom

said she thought that Catharine and Stella were Wilson's cousins.

I hope you can use any of this information.

Linda Stratton

e-mail: jude1@

ubject: Re: Moore & Armstrong. Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:27:44 EDT From: To: jtgrace@, KYCARTER-L@

HI, Lucinda Frances Armstrong was the d/o John & Lucinda McDAVID Armstrong.She was born 4 Oct. 1853 in Carter Co..Ky. She married 17 Feb. 1873 to Austin F. Ross. Her brother John married Emma Mae Ross. My line is through theMcDavids. Roger Kennedy

Subject: Re: Grizzell

Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 22:02:13 -0400

From: "Donald R. Yoak"

To: jtgrace@

John,

Before I go any further I should tell you that I sent the query about William Grizzell

for a friend of mine who does not have access to the internet. She had been working on

her family tree for about 20 years and has collected and compiled lots of data on the

co-lateral lines. Margaret Porter, the wife of Lafe was the sister of my friends

Grandmother, Ellen Porter. She is trying to get as much data as she can on the

descendants of Lafe and Margaret, including William and his siblings. If you would be

willing to share a GEDCOM of that line I can use my program to format it in a way she

can read it.

I sure that she would be willing to share data that she may have on Ellen's descendants

if that would be beneficial to your work.

My friend (and cousin) is Eleanor McDavid Brewster and she lives near Grayson, Kentucky.

My name is Don Yoak and I live in Delaware, OH. My mother was a McDavid.

Any help you can provide would be very much appreciated. I can go into more detail on

the McDavid's if you like but can't be much help on the Porter's. I haven't done any

thing with that line as yet.

Don

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 14:41:08 EST

From: VMcca43559

To: KYBATH-L@

Message-ID:

Subject: HUNT, HIATT

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Reubin HUNT b. ca 1766/67 M. about 1786 to Nancy DENTON They lived in

Bath Co. Reubin HUNT died ca 1825 in Bath Co. (Have copy of his will)

Children were:

1....Jeremiah b. ca 1787 M. Mary ROSS

2....*Hester/Esther* B. ca 1789 M. 1st.John GREEN 2nd. Landy

MARKWELL 3rd. Thatcher HIATT

3....Rebecca b. ca. 1792

4....Elizabeth b. ca.1793

5...Reubin Jr. b. ca 1793

6...Samuel B. b. ca. 1795

7...Ezekial b. ca. 1797

8...Mary/Polly b. ca. 1800

9...Phoebe b. ca. 1806

10...Joseph D. b. ca. 1809

11...William Spencer b. 6 Oct. 1813

12...Nancy b. ca. 1815

I have the names of some of their spouses but my main concern is with.

Hester/Esther. I am trying to find ot if she is in fact my GGgrandmother.

Thatcher HIATT was mentioned as being her husband when Reubin died. They were

apparently living in Bath Co at that time. She having been married twice

before... had children with at least Landy MARKWELL. At the time she married

Thatcher Hiatt in 1820 in Fleming County she had amassed some property from

her previous marriages. I am trying to find out if she and Thatcher HIATT had

any children.

In 1850 Fleming Co Census Esther/Hester was living with her son Joel MARKWELL.

She and Thatcher HIATT were divorced and the only mention of any children

between Esther and Thatcher was in the deposition given where someone says

"Thatcher went to Ohio on business" and took one of the sons with him.

Esther sued him for unlawful adultery. He married in Gallia County OH a

Jemima JOHNSTON. He was still married to Esther when he married the JOHNSTON

lady.

Can anyone shed any light on this? It will have to be someone who has the

HUNT or MARKWELL ancestry at heart. The MARKWELLS and HIATT'S could be half

siblings. I need to prove the parents of Josiah HIATT who was waylayed and

murdered at the Crossroads Rowan/Bath co? by his son-in-law James RAYBORN.

James may have been from Bath Co.

Thanks!

Posted by Ronald L. Whitaker on Tue, 19 May 1998, in response to LEWELLEN -

CARR - ROSS, posted by Nancy C. Adkins on Mon, 18 May 1998

My 5g grandparents Andrew Zorn(es) (1747-1844) m. Rebecca Lewellyn (1764-1830). 4g grandparents Andrew

Zorn(es) (1794-1857) m. Rachel McCleese (1800-circa 1828). 4g aunt Catherine McCleese (b. circa 1795) m. (29 Aug

1814, Bath County, KY) Richard Ross. Families appear at various times in Greenup and Carter County records.

Any tie to your groups? Have children of Richard and Catherine Ross from estate settlement of Daniel McLease

in 1859. Rachel and Catherine were d/o Daniel.

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DEATON, DENTON, HUNT, OVERALL, ROSS posted by Elizabeth Smith on

Tuesday, December 9, 1997

Jeremiah HUNT was the son of Reuben HUNT, Sr. and Nancy (DEATON/DENTON?) and the

grandson of John HUNT, Sr. and Mary (OVERALL?). All three HUNTs were Methodist

Episcopal ministers. In fact, I have seen Jeremiah HUNT's name on numerous marriage

returns in Fleming and Bath Counties, KY. Jeremiah was born abt 1788 in Washington

District, TN. He married, Mary ROSS on 27 October 1805. Mary was born abt 1786 in VA and

died 1860-1870 in KY. She was the daughter of John ROSS. I would like to find out more

about John ROSS. Is he the John ROSS of Fleming Co., who was born 18 September 1854 in

Prince William Co., VA and who applied for a Revolutionary War pension? I know that three

of his children included, Mary ROSS (see above); Jacob ROSS, born 1792, died 30 June 1880

in Randolph Co., IN ad married to Elizabeth DENTON, 26 September 1815 in Bath Co., KY;

and Margaret Ross, born 1800 and married to Wesley DENTON 23 November 1818 in

Fleming Co., KY. Please contact me if you have any information on these lines. I am willing

to exchange information.

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Subject: Re: Zorn(es) surname

Date Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:46:21 -0400

From "Ronald L. Whitaker"

To: jtgrace@

Thanks for your message. Yes, would like very much to exchange information on

these lines. I really have nothing listed on TJ's other marriages beyond his

Zornes connection, so the only information I have on his marriage to Cynthia

Brown is what you forwarded. I posted the information you listed and found that

Sarah Alice Campbell is my "half 3G aunt". It seems my lines crossed so many

times during that time period that I'm my own kissin' cousin!

I don't know what you may have on TJ, but am willing to share whatever I have.

I descend as follows:

3g grandparents - Thomas J. Campbell m. Emza Zornes

2g grandparents - Mary Lewellyn m. Sherwood Tackett.

1g grandparents - Rachel Rodisa (Dicie) Tackett m. James Wesley McCleese

grandparents - Malina Caroline McCleese m. William Harrison Stone

parents - Alma Abigail Stone m. Robert Haskel Whitaker

Looking forward to hearing from you.

A newly found cousin,

Ron

Subject: Ross genealogy

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:32:48 -0400

From: "Brenda Vance"

To:

Mr. John Grace,

Thankyou for your patience in waiting for a reply to your genealogy questions. Inchecking the library's records of early Bath County marriages, I found the record of John Nelson Ross and Nancy Kinimon but when I went to the courthouse there was no record in the marriage books covering that period of time. The book at the library gave a side reference of "AB" which indicates it was from the source of Annie Walker Burns, "Record of Marriages of Bath COunty, Kentucky, copied from the marriage bonds, which gives names of parents and bondsman" (1811-1850, Washington, DC, 1937. Regarding Jeremiah : in the 1860 Bath County Census there is an Alfred Vanlandingham with an 8 year old son Jerry. I have checked all other censud records on VANLANDINGHAM and found no other that fit or had a child by the name of Jeremiah. I'm sending this email from the library and when I arrive home I will send you a website where you might post queries and get a better response. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Billie Hunt

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Subject: Re: Date Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:04:19 -0700 From Steve Kinerk Organiza Hewlett Packard To: jtgrace@

ReferenJohn, looks like we have Great Great Grand Parents Cramblitt in common. That would make us third cousins. My info is not in GEDCOM format. It is in my own custom HTML format. I am the son of Robert Lewis Kinerk, Katie's older brother, and Vera and Robert's only other child. I am happy to share more info. What is the method of display and storage you use for you data? More later. I gotta go. Steve

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Steve Kinerk wrote:

> Hello J.T. Grace,

> I do genealogy research on my Kinerk name. I saw you have a

> connection to me through

> Robert and Vera Kinerk. I am happy to share more info with you if you

> want.

> Regards,

> --

> Steve Kinerk

> email: kinerk@sr.

> Work: 1-707-577-3937

--

Steve Kinerk

Hewlett Packard - 1400 Fountaingrove Pky. Santa Rosa, CA

email: kinerk@sr.

Work: 1-707-577-3937

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Subject: Re: Nancy Kinnaman

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:52:46 -0600

From: "D Underwood"

To:

John,

My Nancy Kinnaman was born about 1820 and was the dau of Phillip and

Winfrey (Hancock) Kinnaman who were married in Green Co, TN. I suspect

that she was born there also and then some of the family moved up to IN and

IL. I don't have anything recorded as to her marriage. She is not a

direct ancestor and I just have not persued her record. Let me know if she

sounds like the same Nancy Kinnaman as you're researching.

Dale

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Subject: RE: GRIZZLE/GRIZZELL Surname

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:03:10 -0400

From: "Gaian, Larry"

To: "'jtgrace@'"

Yes, now I remember. If what information I have is correct then the most

likely candidate to be father of of Charlotte is either James (born 1867) or

Emphraim (born 1867). Since this is also a branch of my tree I'd like to

know when you find a connection.

Individual Summary - 31 Aug 1998

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Name: George GRIZZELL

Sex: Male

Father: John GRIZZELL (1812-1887)

Mother: Cinthia PERRY (1814-1892)

Individual Facts

Birth Oct 1837 in Kentucky

Death abt 1910 in Kenton Co., Kentucky (age 73)

Marriages/Children

1. Francis "Fannie" WILHOIT

Marriage 1860 (age 23)

Children Phobe GRIZZELL (-)

Alice GRIZZELL (18 Jun 1861-1925)

John W. GRIZZELL (Sep 1864-28 Mar 1913)

James A. GRIZZELL (Oct 1867-)

Georgiana GRIZZELL (1870-)

Ephraim GRIZZELL (Dec 1872-)

Cinthia GRIZZELL (Jun 1875-)

Hanna GRIZZELL (Feb 1879-)

Sarah GRIZZELL (1883-)

Dock GRIZZELL (May 1886-)

Larry Gaian

Color Imaging Specialist

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Subject: Ross/Campbell

Date Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:26:46 -0400

From "Ronald L. Whitaker"

Organiza frognet

To: jtgrace@

Referen

John:

When I review what I have, very little relates to your direct line. The most viable

contact that I have for you is:

Vivian Bales

801 East 29th Street

Marion, IN 46953

She is not online. Now in her 80's Vivian has been researching our lines for decades and

is probably a good source for you. She may also know those are researching your direct

lines. I had hoped to see her at a Dickinson reunion on the 15th in Ashland, KY, but don't

think I can make it.... and there's a possibility she can't either.

I've included some information below which you may be able to use.

Some notes from Vivian Bales.

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Settlement of Andrew Zornes Estate. Carter Co, KY, Deed Book 7:437, June 1859.

Among the heirs were:

Sherwood Tackett

Mary Tackett

John Campbell

Harrison Campbell

Jeremiah Campbell

James Campbell

Mary, John, Harrison [rlw note: William H.], and James were the children of Thomas

Campbell and his wife Eliza (Emzy) Zornes. In 1850, Emma in census. (Her right name was

Emma Elizabeth and the family called her Emzy).

Emzy died after 1850. In Sep 1852, Thomas J. Campbell married Miss Harriet Foster. I

don't know what happened to her, because in 1860, he had another wife. He married Miss

Foster in Greenup Co, KY. She was only 16. He said he was 38, b. in VA.

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Information below transcribed by me.

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Daniel MCCLEESE Jr (II). Born 1776 in PA. Died 1851 in Greenup County, KY.

Estate Settlement of Daniel McLease, 11 Oct 1859

From the affidavits of Daniel and Martin McLease there were eight children

alive or who had children between whom said $350.00 must be divided which leaves

due to each from said administrators as follows, viz:

1. Thomas McLease, alive 43.75

2. Rachel & Andrew Zornes four children 43.75

3. Catherine & Richard Ross five children 43.75

4. Squire McLease, alive 43.75

5. John McLease 2 children, Thos J.(?) & Saml G. McLease 43.75

6. Daniel McClease, alive 43.75

7. Margarett & Robert McGlone, alive 43.75

8. Martin McLease, alive 43.75

The above $43.75 due to Rachael & Andrew Zornes' children divided between said

four children as follows, to wit;

1. Emzia & Thos. Campbell and their 5 children 10.93 3/4

2. Martin Zornes, alive 10.93 3/4

3. Rebecca & John Keaton, alive 10.93 3/4

4. Rachael & Jacob (Jack?) Gilbert, alive 10.93 3/4

The above $43.75 due to children of Catharine & Richard Ross is divided between

them as follows, to wit;

1. Margaret & Arthur Prince, alive 8.75

2. Elizabeth & William Jarvis, alive 8.75

3. Susanna Ross, alive 8.75

4. Reuben Ross, alive 8.75

5. Mary Ann & Reuben Wilburn, alive 8.75

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Hope this provides some useful tidbits.

Talk later.

Ron

--

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Ronald L. Whitaker Preferred: whitaker@

Alternate: whitaker@ohiou.edu





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Primary grandparental lines: Whitaker/Vaughan and Stone/McCleese. Beginning as early as

1790, they arrived in KY from MD, PA, NC and VA.

Paternal: Brown, Dawson, Fletcher, Ford, Harvey, Karns, Vaughan, Teague, Walker, Whitaker,

Wilson, Yates. Maternal: Campbell, Cooper, Davis, Duncan, Jordan, Knighton, Lewellyn,

McCleese, Osborne, Pierce, Smith, Stafford, Stone, Tackett, Zorn(e)s

___________________________________________________

HARLAN ROSS Date 580528 Age 077 Place GRNUP Residence CARTER Volume 026 Cert 12764De 58

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SARAH ROSS

Date 471014 Age 075 Place CARTR Residence CARTER Volume 059 Cert 29010 Deathvol 47

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56 Moore, J H W M 21 Son-in-law V V V

Amanda C W F 17 Wife K K K

Emmet ? W W M 1 Son K V K

Sparks, W H W M 8 Adopted K K K

Henderson, James W M 18 Farm worker K K K

57 Ross, Jerry J W M 23 Farming KTn K

Alice W F 20 Wife K K K

Clifton S W M 4 Son K K K

George J W M 1 Son K K K

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>

> sandy@ wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> > I'm looking for info on Jeremiah Fitzpatrick b. abt 1775, died 1847

> > Jackson Co., OH. He had 3 sons that I'm aware of; John A. born abt 1793

> > in OH or PA, George b. Jan 24, 1796 PA, and Philip b. 1808 OH.

> >

> > John married Ruth Ogle Sept 6, 1821 in Columbiana Co., OH. They had 9

> > children, their daughter Isabel married Layton Palmer, Jr.

> >

> > Do you know anything about these people?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sandy

John,

Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. With school starting,

things have been rather hectic around here.

Anyway, the John A. Fitzpatrick you spoke of born in 1836, is a brother

to my Isabel. He was the son of John A. Fitzpatrick & Ruth Ogle.

Sandy

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Subject Re: Fitzpatrick Surname

Date Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:03:00 -0500

From sandy@

To: jtgrace@

Referen2 , 3 , 4

Hi John,

Okay, here is what I do know of the Fitzpatricks.

John A. Fitzpatrick b. 1793 OH, died Sept 17, 1890 he's buried in Mount

Carmel, OH. he married Sept 6, 1821 in Columbiana Co., OH to Ruth Ogle

b. 1793 OH.

There Children:

1. Elizabeth

2. Robert A. b. July 6, 1824 OH, he was a farmer (I'll have to go back

to my database to check his death date) He married Aug 22, 1847 to

Rebecca Hueston b. Jan 7, 1826, died Dec 8, 1910 Jackson Co., OH.

3. Isabel b. 1826 OH. She married Layton Palmer, Jr.

4. Julie Ann b. 1831 Jackson Co., OH.

5. Livina L. b. 1834 Jackson Co., OH.

6. John A. b. 1836 Jackson Co., OH. married Mary Ann Holland March 21,

1861.

7. Thomas b. 1838 Jackson CCo., OH.

. Mary Jane b. 1842 Jackson Co., OH.

9. Adam L. b. 1844 Jackson Co., OH.

John A. Fitzpatrick, Sr.'s father was Jeremiah Fitzpatrick b. 1775, died

1847 Jackson Co., OH. Jeremiah had 2 other sons.

George b. Jan 24, 1796 PA, died Dec 24, 1865. buried Hamilton Cemetery

in Mercer Co., MO. He married Nancy Ann ?? who was b. 1810 PA.

Phillip b. 1808 OH. he was a farmer. He married Nancy Wells b. 1809 OH.

They married Aug 28, 1828 Columbiana Co., OH.

I think that Jeremiah was probably from PA, since John was born 1793 OH,

and George was born 1796 in PA, then by the time Phillip was born

Jeremiah was back in OH.

I think the Fitzpatricks were pretty tight with the Palmer's since 3

Fitzpatrick cousins married 3 Palmer brothers. and apparantly traveled

along with each other from Columbiana Co to Jackson Co.

I probably have some other info in my paper files. But we just bought a

new house a couple of months ago and I haven't unpacked all of my papers

yet. But when I do, if I find anything more on the Fitzpatrick's I will

let you know.

I will put your e-mail in my address book and if I ever find out who

Jeremiah's parents were, I will let you know.

Keep in touch.

Sandy

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Subject:

William Grizzel and Lucy Deming

Date:

Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:49:37 +0000

From:

Charles Smith

Organization:

Poole & Rutter

To:

Jtgrace@

I saw your posting from May on genforum about William Grizzel and Lucy

Deming. Can you please tell me what information you have on them. I have

a debate going as to the parents of Anna Grizzel. One person says Lucy

Deming was married to Samuel North, Jr. Another says William Grizzel.

Any light on this? I am related to Anna Grizzel and would like to clear

this up. Was Lucy married twice?

Charles Smith

charles@pandr.demon.co.uk

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Subject:

Hartley

Date:

Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:58:13 EDT

From:

MGreve1517@

To:

jtgrace@

Understand you are researching Hartley in Jackson Co., OH. My step

gggrandmother was Martha S. Hartley, she was born 1/17/1838 in Jackson Co., OH

died 8/27/1927 in Chanute, KS.

She married Joseph Aaron MEEKER 1/3/1856 and had six children.

Any info would be appreciated or if you want any of my info please let know

Thanks -- mgreve1517@

Mary

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Subject: Re: [KYBATH-L] ROSS, DENTON, VANLANDINGHAM, KINAMON Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:47:05 EDT From: CB1813@ To: jtgrace@

Hi John..i live right over from you in Yuma Arizona...My 4th Great Grandmotherwas a sister to the Jacob ross who married Elizabeth Denton in 1815..Jacobross died in Randolph Co Indiana on June 30th 1880..i see 1 Daughter listedfor them her name was sarah Ross and she married Benjamin N Hunt and Benjaminwas the son of John tipton Hunt and Mary Denton..boy we are related all theway around..hhahaha..John T Hunt is a great uncle to me

My 4th great Grandmother Mary A Ross..the sister of Jacob ,she Married Jeremiah Hunt..Jeremiahs Mother was Nancy Denton..the Hunts and Dentons married into each others family often. i have some more Denton Hunt info if you need it..i know Jacob Ross's father wasJohn Ross..Bn 9-18-1754 in Price William Co VA and he died Aft 1833 in KY..i hope this helps some Christie Sapp Bilky

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Subject: Denton Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:31:58 EDT From: azmac@ (richard e mcnatt) To: jtgrace@

Hi JohnI have a Elizabeth Denton b. abt 1803(source: Dr. John S.Schunk, editor, 1850 U.S.Census - Flem Co.,Ky.) parents are Denton, William b. abt. 1778

& mother Mary. " Elizabeth" is heir in will of William- an old maid daughter or a daughter-in-law. hope this might help.

I use to live in Oakland,Calif. I took my Nurses training at SamuelMerritt Hospital MANY years ago.

Nancy Barber McNatt

2724 Leisure World

Mesa, Az. 85206 azmac@

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Subject: Grizzel and Riddle Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:12:08 +0000 From: Charles Smith Organization: Poole & Rutter To: jtgrace@

John,I have contacted Larry Gaian before and I'm still waiting for him to getback to me about sources for the William Grizzel and Lucy Demingmarriage. You said there was more than one source. Do you have anyoneelse's email address I could contact or a web site. The Deming clan hasLucy marrying Samuel North in 1770. But since Anna Grizzel was not bornuntil 1784 Samuel could have died in the American Revolution orsomething and Lucy married a second time to William. I just need asource or two.

My Grizzels start and end with William and Anna. I haven't been able to

go back anywhere from William, and Anna marries out of the name to Isaac

Riddle. Their dates and their children were:

Isaac William (1777-1861) and Anna (Grizzel, 1784-1856) RIDDLE's

children

1. William Riddle (1802-1802) died in childhood, age 7 months

2. John Riddle (1803-1887) married Elizabeth Wilson Stewart (1803-1878)

in 1822 *

3. Elam Riddle (1805-1882) married Matilda Simpson (1809-1880) in 1827

4. Nancy Ann Riddle (1807-aft 1860) married Levy Webster (1807-1860) in

1831

5. Joseph Pierce Riddle (1810-1873) married Nancy Smith (1809-1853) in

1829 **

6. James G Riddle (1813-1878) married Lucy Smith (1810-1891) in 1831

***

7. William (Billie) Riddle (1814-aft 1845), bachelor

8. Thomas Gregory Riddle (1818-1884) married Nancy M Morris (1823-1884)

in 1839

9. Solomon Riddle (1820-abt 1825)

10. Harriet Elizabeth Riddle (1824-1898) married Hollis C Riggs (abt

1820-abt 1893) in 1845

11. Isaac Roger Riddle (1828-1903) married Hannah Longstreet Blackstone

(1833-1896) in 1851 ****

* John Riddle had more than one wife at the same time. The others were

Jane Noble (married 1852), Abigail Campbell (married 1852), Suzannah

Evered Quantrille (married 1853), Sarah Tracey (married 1857), Jane

Thomas (married 1866), Eliza Bramwick (married 1868).

** Joseph Pierce Riddle, second marriage, Margaret Pauline Vice

(1820-1875) in 1860.

*** James G Riddle, divorced Lucy Smith and married Sarah Ann "Sally"

Herring McElroy (1840-?) in about 1872.

**** Isaac Roger Riddle, second marriage, Nancy Milstead in 1897.

---------------------

I am related to 3. Elam Riddle. Quite a bit is known about this side

from unfortunately very little information.

If you can, please let me know where I can find those sources. Thanks,

Charles Smith

charles@pandr.demon.co.uk

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The Ross - Denton saga follows

Husband: Jacob Ross (R200)

b. 8 Sep 1792 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: 28 Sep 1815 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Died: 30 Jun 1880 at: Randolph County, Indiana

Father:

Mother:

Other Spouses:

Wife: Elizabeth Denton (D535)

b. 13 Mar 1799 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Died: 12 Feb 1857 at: Nettle Creek Township, Randolph County, Indiana

Father:Abraham Denton

Mother:Sarah Hunt

Other Spouses:

CHILDREN

Name: John Ross Ross

b. 26 Jul 1817 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Sarah Ross

b. 29 Jul 1820 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: at:

Died: 17 Mar 1896 at: Modoc, Randoplph County, Indiana

Spouses:

Name: Thomas Ross

b. 7 Nov 1822 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Edward D Ross

b. 16 Dec 1824 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: America Ross

b. 6 Oct 1826 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Amanda Ross

b. 21 Aug 1828 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Artimincy Ross

b. 16 Aug 1830 at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Wesley D Ross

b. 1 May 1832 at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Andrew V Ross

b. 12 May 1834 at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Elijah P Ross

b. 13 Aug 1838 at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Matilda J Ross

b. 7 Sep 1840 at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

Name: Ellen P Ross

b. 1 Feb 1843 at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Spouses:

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Elizabeth Smith Thu Jun 5 14:18:09 1997

Jeremiah HUNT was the son of Reuben HUNT, Sr. and Nancy (DEATON/DENTON?) and the grandson of John

HUNT, Sr. and Mary (OVERALL?). All three HUNTs were Methodist Episcopal ministers. In fact, I have seen

Jeremiah HUNT's name on numerous marriage returns in Fleming and Bath Counties, KY. Jeremiah was born abt

1788 in Washington District, TN. He married, Mary ROSS on 27 October 1805. Mary was born abt 1786 in VA and

died 1860-1870 in KY. She was the daughter of John ROSS. I would like to find out more about John ROSS. Is he

the John ROSS of Fleming Co., who was born 18 September 1854 in Prince William Co., VA and who applied for a

Revolutionary War pension? I know that three of his children included, Mary ROSS (see above); Jacob ROSS,

born 1792, died 30 June 1880 in Randolph Co., IN and married to Elizabeth DENTON, 26 September 1815 in Bath

Co., KY; and Margaret ROSS, born 1800 and married to Wesley DENTON 23 November 1818 in Fleming Co., KY.

Please contact me if you have any information on these lines. I am willing to exchange information.

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:19:11 -0600

From: mike f /onoldah l rone

To: DENTON-L@

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Subject: RE: Continuation of Denton information

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Another segment of the Denton information from the records of Minor and

Walter Denton and Lida Hunt:

Abraham & Sarah Denton issue:

1. Reuben Denton b. Jan 2, 1801 in E. Tenn - he m. Jane Perkins b. Oct

27, 1811. 5 known children.

2. Celia Denton b. ____ probably also in E. Tenn. m. Elijah Perkins

on Aug 11, 1828 - Ira Hunt went Bond.

3. Wesley Denton (who may have been the oldest child) m. Margaret

Ross & moved to Indiana (Randolph Co). Marriage date Sept 26, 1818

Bath Co., KY.

4. Benjamin Northcutt Denton b. Jan 13, 1809 m. Matilda Hunt on Sept

10, 1833 - Randolph Co., Ind. (I have this complete line down to about

1960) the preceding statement was by Dwight Denton.

5. Jennie Denton b. Bath Co., KY m. Henry Reid on Oct 17, 1831. Wm.

Denton went Bond - moved to Indiana

6. Elizabeth Denton m. Jacob Ross in Bath County KY and moved to

Indiana.

7. Nellie Denton m. Joshua Parker Hunt, a minister, on Aug 22, 1828 -

John Hunt went Bond - moved to Indiana, at or near, Farmland, Randolph

Co. Had at least one son, John Abe, and later moved to Vermillion Co.,

Ill. *(I have no knowledge of where they went after Ill.) *note from

Dwight Denton.

In the sale of Abraham Dentons goods, the following persons (amoung

others) were named as purchasers of items:

Wm Denton - one calf

Sary Denton - one cow, 4 sheep, one brake plow

John Hunt - one filley, one colt, one plow

Hiram Hunt - one colt

Reuben Hutn - one colt

William Denton - administrator of the will of Abraham Denton - on the

6th day of April 1821.

Reuben Denton and family stayed in Kentucky (Bath, Fleming and Mason

counties).

Celia Denton Perkins also stayed in Kentucky.

Three sisters and two brothers moved to Indiana (Randolph, White &

Rensselaer counties, at least).

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:04:54 +0000

From: "Jaime Lossing Potts"

To: DENTON-L@

Message-Id:

Subject: a missing page of Dentons

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Hello to my Denton cousins,

I've only been listening in for a few weeks and this is the first time

I'm writing, so please forgive me if someone else has already pointed

out what I'm going to mention. Anyone who has used the information by

Jim Denton at the Family Tree Maker's genealogy site needs to realize

that the fourth page breaks off and doesn't come to the end. (I tried

to contact him, but my E-Mail was returned.) When you copy that page

and the next one, at first glance it looks like they fit together,

with the 7's of Nancy Denton and Benjamin Northcutt Denton under that

of Isaac Denton Jr., son of Isaac (1768), so it looks like Nancy,

Benjamin Northcutt, Celia and Ellen Denton are the children of Isaac

Denton. It also makes it look like Mary Denton (m. John Tipton Hunt),

Sarah Denton (m. William Basel Hunt), Joseph Denton (m. Dradena Hunt),

and William Denton (m. Mary (Polly) Hunt) But if you look carefully,

you see that page four stops with: .........*2nd wife of Isaac Denton.

The following page mentions no wife, but has ........... + Henry

Reed. The Denton and Hunt family historys that I know off all list

Benjamin Northcutt Denton and his sisters as the younger children of

Abraham Denton (1776-1813) and Sarah Hunt, Abraham being the son of

James Denton (1735-1835) and Elizabeth (Harper? Smith? Overall?).

They also list Mary, Sarah, Joseph, and William as children of James

Denton and Elizabeth. There is a lot of missing information in the gap

between pages 4 and 5. I predict that the following information will

be found in that gap:

The name of the second wife of Isaac Denton (1837)

...................8 possibly other children of Isaac Denton (1808-1889) and Rutha Walling

................7 Other children of Isaac Denton (1768-1848) and Rebecca Etheridge

with their descendants.

.............6 Other children of Joseph Denton (1728-1800) and Ann Hogg

with their descendents.

.........5 Isaac Denton (son of Abraham Denton (1700-1776) and Mary O'dell)

and descendants (if any)

.........5 Samuel Denton (son of Abraham and Mary) and descendants (if

any)

At the bottom of the missing page will be found:

.........5 James Denton (1735-1835) (indicated as son of Abraham Denton and Mary

O'Dell)

............+Elizabeth (Harper? Smith? Overall?)

..............6 Ann Denton

..............+William Basel Hunt (after her death he married her sister Sarah)

.................7 Vivian

..............6 Nancy Denton

...............+Reuben Hunt

.................7 Twelve children (I have the names)

..............6 Abraham Denton (1776-1813)

...............+Sarah Hunt

.................7 Wesley Denton

...................+Margaret Ross

.................7 Elizabeth Denton

....................+Jacob Ross

.....................8 twelve children (I have the names)

.................7 Reuben Denton

...................+Jane Perkins

.....................8 four children (I have the names)

.................7 Jane Denton

Here the missing page will end, because page five begins with:

..................+Henry Reed (or Reid) who was the husband of Jane Denton

Page five goes on to list the remaining children of Abraham Denton

and Sarah Hunt and of James Denton and Elizabeth.

I hope this is understandable. If anyone can correct or contradict me, please do so.

Jim Lossing

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:13:26 -0600

From: mike f /onoldah l rone

To: DENTON-L@

Message-ID:

Subject: RE: Last segment of Denton-Hunt lines

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This is the last segment of the Denton-Hunt lines from records of Minor

Allen Denton, Walter Denton and Lida Hunt:

Dwight W. Denton goes on to say:

I am here sending a copy of a letter to Mr. Minor A. Denton of

Hillsboro, KY from one Charles A. Denton of Butler, MO, dated July 18,

1927 -Minor, the son of Oliver Bromley Denton and grandson of Reuben

Denton (mentioned earlier) who in turn was the son of Abraham Denton.

Mr. Charles A. Denton was the son of Edmund Parker Denton, another son

of Reuben Denton. Again, Reuben and your Nellie or Elnoir, were brother

and sister, both children of Abram & Sallie Hunt Denton.

Quote....Dear Cousin: (copied from Minor Denton collection by me about

1953)DWD "I am in receipt of a letter from one W. B. Denton who lives

in Detroit, Mich., in reply to my letter to him. This letter is written

from Colorado as you will note. The letter seems to give the most

substantial information of any that I have been able to procure. You

will note that he speaks of Reuben and Jane Denton having taken young

John to care for after he had lost his parents. This you well know is a

fact and therefore indicates that this man has correct evidence as far

as it goes". (etc., etc.)(There are 5 or 6 pages of this if you want

it).

Edmund Parker Denton moved to and lived at Hamilton, Ill as well as

several other members of this branch of the family. Charlie lived there

for a time, later moving to Butler Co., MO.

The following information concerning the Denton Family in Kentucky, was

dictated to Minor Allen Denton by his father, Oliver Bromley Denton, at

Hillsboro, KY on March 30, 1914:

Quote:

"Grandfather and grandmother were Abram and Sally Hunt Denton. The

emigrated to Kentucky from East Tennessee when my father, Reuben Denton,

was two years old and he was born Januaryr 2, 1801. To them were born

four daughters and three sons. My father, Reuben Denton, and his sister

Celia Denton, were all that remained in Kentucky. Celia Denton married

Elijah Perkins.

Three sisters and two brothers moved to Randolph County, Indiana. My

two uncles, Wesley and Benjamin Denton, finally moved farther west and I

do not know what became of them.

Aunt Jennie Denton married Henry Reid-don't know what became of them.

Elizabeth Denton married Jacob Ross and they had five sons, John,

Fletcher, Dausey (prob. Dorsey), Waldo and Perkins.

Nellie Denton married Joshua Hunt and they had one son, John Abram Hunt.

Reuben Denton had four sons, 3 living, one dead (in 1914), Abram,

Edmond, (Allen, dec'd) and myself, Oliver.

Abram Denton had four sons:Simpson R., Hunphrey, William (all three

dec'd by 1914), and Samuel O., who is living in Oklahoma. Three

daughters: Mary J. Walton, Ida Ostrum and Anna Williams.

Edmond Parker Denton had four sons: Charlie A., of Butler, MO, Henry K.,

Edmond G. and Albert C., all of Hamilton, Ill. Also four

daughters:Julianna C. Cole of Spokane, Wash. , Margaret B. (can't read

this), and Elizabeth Wallace, all of Hamilton, Ill. and Ellen Rontchler

of Chicago, Ill. (March 30, 1914)

______________________________

Subject:

Re: Denton & Ross genealogy

Date:

Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:39:59 +0000

From:

"Jaime Lossing Potts"

To:

jtgrace@

John,

Elizabeth Denton was the big sister of my ggg grandfather, Benjamin

Northcutt Denton.

I got this information from Marta Jackson Vaillancourt :

VMarta She has a 55 page list of Hunt descendants

and maybe it is more updated now, if you'd like to contact her.

Here is the reference she had for the Jacob Ross, Elizabeth Denton

information: 8. John Vice, RR #2, Box 141, Ewing (Fleming Co.), KY

41039 (johnvice@

First Generation

1. John HUNT Sr.1,2 Born on 1 Feb 1628 in Warwickshire County,

Stratford-upon- Avon,England.2 John died in Charles County, MD.2 John

married Elizabeth2. They had the following children:

2 i. Joseph (1660-)

ii. John.

Second Generation

2. Joseph HUNT. Born in 1660 in England.1 Joseph died in United States

of America.1 Joseph married Winnifred Winnie FERNANDO2. Born ca 1660

in Germany.3 They had the following children:

i. Reuben. Born ca 1691 in Prince William, VA.

ii. Lewis. Born ca 1689 in Prince William, VA.

iii. Samuel. Born ca 1695 in Prince William, VA.

3 iv. Joseph (1680-)

Third Generation

3. Joseph HUNT Jr.3 Born in 1680.4

Joseph married Jane TIPTON4.

They had one child:

4 i. John Tipton (1707-)

Fourth Generation

4. John Tipton HUNT Sr.3 Born in 1707 in Baltimore Co., MD.4

John Tipton married Winifred FARDENAN3, in Baltimore Co., MD.4

They had the following children:

i. Joseph. Born ca 1737 in Prince William County, Virginia.1

ii. William.

5 iii. John Tipton (1736-1807)

iv. Reuben. Born app 1739 in Prince William County, Virginia.1

v. Lewis. Born app 1741 in Prince William County, Virginia.1

vi. Samuel. Born app 1743 in Prince William County, Virginia.1

Fifth Generation

5. John Tipton HUNT JR.5,3 Born in 1736 in Baltimore, MD.3 John Tipton

died in Locust, Fleming County, KY on 7 Dec 1807; he was 71.3 bef 1760

when John Tipton was 24, he first married Esther HARPER1,6.4 In 1761

when John Tipton was 25, he second married Mary OVERALL4, daughter of

John W. OVERALL Sr. & Mary ELLIOTT, in Page Co., Virginia.4 Born on 19

Mar 1731 in Virginia.7,2 Mary died in Washington District, NC in

1790/1800; she was 58.8 They had the following children:

6 i. John Tipton (1763-1829)

ii. Lewis Wilson. Born in 1762 in Old Frederick County, now

Shenandoah

County, VA.3,1 Lewis Wilson died in Fleming County, Kentucky on 8 Dec

1801; he was 39.1 Occupation: Methodist circuit rider.1 Religion:

Methodist.1 Lewis Wilson married Elizabeth MCMONIGAL. Born in

1790/1800 in Ireland.8 Elizabeth died bef 1834; she was 44.8

7 iii. William Basil (Bazel) (1765-1828)

8 iv. Reuben (1767-1825)

v. Jonathan. Born app 1768 in VA.

vi. Winnefred. Born app 1770 in Old Frederick County, now Shenandoah

County,

VA.1 Winnefred died in Bath County, KY in 1847; she was 77.1

In 1790 when Winnefred was 20, she married Benjamin TITSWORTH1.1

9 vii. Sarah (Sally) (1779-1831)

10 viii. Absolom (1773-1841)

11 ix. Mary "Polly" (1776->1828)

12 x. Deborah (1780-1812)

13 xi. Dradenna (1772-1844)

xii. Abraham. Born in 1784 in Tennessee.1 Abraham died in Bath

County, KY on

11 Nov 1851; he was 67.1,9 Buried in Cherry Grove Cemetery, Washington

Township, Randolph Co., IN.10

xiii. Samuel.

Sixth Generation

6. Col. John Tipton HUNT Jr. Born in 1763 in Frederick Co(became

DunmoreCo.,now Shenandoah Co), VA.9,6 John Tipton died in Hillsboro,

Fleming County, KY on 15 Mar 1829; he was 66.1,9 Buried in Crain

Cemetery,near Hillsboro, Fleming County, KY.8 Occupation:

farmer,Justice of Peace, served as home guard in War of1812. In 1788

when John Tipton was 25, he married Mary (Polly) DENTON, daughter of

James DENTON & Elizabeth OVERALL, in Johnson City or

Joneboro,Washington District, Tennessee.4,1 Born on 13 Oct 1769 in

Frederick Co(became DunmoreCo.,now Shenandoah Co), VA.9,1 Mary (Polly)

died in Carlos, Randolph Co., IN on 4 Apr 1843; she was 73.1,8 Buried

in Huntsville Cemetery, Randolph County, Ind. (sect.28).5

They had the following children:

14 i. John Lemuel (Euel) (1789->1860)

15 ii. William Basil (Bazil) (1790-1869)

16 iii. Absolom (1792-1863)

17 iv. James Bazel (1793-1855)

18 v. Reuben (1795-1846)

19 vi. John Wesley (1797-1858)

20 vii. Howard (1799-1860)

21 viii. William D. (1802-1876)

22 ix. Anna (1804-)

x. Hannah. Born ca 1872.8 Hannah died in Bath Co., KY on 16 Jul

1877; she

was 5.8

23 xi. Joshua Parker (1805-1889)

24 xii. Elizabeth (Betsy) (1808-1855)

25 xiii. Benjamin Northcutt (1809-1861)

xiv. Sarah (Sally). Born on 11 Jan 1811 in Fleming County,

Kentucky.9,1

Sarah (Sally) died in Newton, Harvey County, KS on 10 Dec 1888; she

was 77.9 Buried in Old City Cemetery, Newton, Harvey Co., KS.8 On 20

Dec 1829 when Sarah (Sally) was 18, she married John Wesley MARKWELL9,

son of Landy Hurst MARKWELL & Elizabeth FLEMING, in Fleming County,

KY.5 Born on 8 Apr 1808 in Fleming Co., KY.9,8 John Wesley died in

Newton, Harvey Co., Kansas on 5 Dec 1875; he was 67.8

xv. Deborah (Debby). Born in 1814 in Fleming County, Kentucky.8,1

Deborah

(Debby) died app 1814 in Fleming County, Kentucky.1

xvi. Patsy. Born in 1816 in Fleming County, Kentucky.8,1 Patsy died

in

Fleming County, Kentucky in 1823; she was 7.1

7. Rev. William Basil (Bazel) HUNT. Born on 3 Apr 1765 in Old

Frederick County, now Shenandoah County, VA.1,9 William Basil (Bazel)

died in Sullivan County, IN on 28 Jun 1828; he was 63.2,9 Buried in

Lykens Cemetery, southern part of Vigo County, IN.9 Religion:

Methodist.

In 1786 when William Basil (Bazel) was 20, he first married Anna

DENTON1, daughter of James DENTON & Elizabeth OVERALL, in Tennessee.1

Born in 1767 in Shenadoah Co., VA.1,11 Anna died in TN in 1787; she

was 20.11 They had one child:

i. Vivian.

Vivian married Lewis SUTTON11.

In 1787 when William Basil (Bazel) was 21, he second married Sarah

DENTON, daughter of James DENTON & Elizabeth OVERALL, in Washington

District, now Tennessee.9,5 Born on 28 Oct 1770 in Shenandoah County,

VA.1,9 Sarah died in Huntsville, Randolph County, IN on 26 Oct 1855;

she was 84.1,9 Buried in Huntsville Cemetery, Huntsville, Randolph

Cty, IN.9 They had the following children:

26 i. Bazaleel (1800-1870)

27 ii. Nancy Jane (1791-1882)

28 iii. William "Old Billy" (1790-1877)

29 iv. Elizabeth Betsy (1792-1854)

v. John E.. Born in 1806 in Fleming Co., KY.8 John E. died in

Huntsville,

Randolph Co., IN on 8 Nov 1873; he was 67.11

bef 1837 when John E. was 31, he married Frances M. SAMPLE11.11

30 vi. Lewis Wilson (1802-1869)

31 vii. Mary (1804-1889)

32 viii. Harper (1798-1850)

ix. James Denton. Born in 1813 in Fleming Co., KY.9,8 James Denton

died in

Clinton County, IN in 1838; he was 25.9

On 19 Mar 1837 when James Denton was 24, he married Almira Maria

KIRK9, in Clinton County, IN.9 Born in 1819.9 Almira Maria died in

1839; she was 20.9

33 x. Miles H. (1808-1893)

xi. Patsy.

Patsy married VANLANDINGHAM.

xii. Sarah.

xiii. Jonathan. Born in 1794 in Kentucky.1 Jonathan died in indiana

in 1873;

he was 79.1

Jonathan married Sarah ARCHER1.

8. Rev. Reuben HUNT. Born in 1767 in Old Frederick County, now

Shenandoah County, VA.9,1 Reuben died in Fleming County, KY in 1825;

he was 58.1,5 Buried in Buck Creek, Bath County, KY.1 Occupation:

Methodist circuit rider.1 Religion: Methodist.1 In 1786 when Reuben

was 19, he married Nancy DENTON9, in Eastern Tennessee territory.1,5

Born in 1765. Nancy died in Buck Creek, Bath Co., KY in 1830; she was

65.8 Buried in Buck Creek, Bath County, KY.1 They had the following

children:

i. Hester. Born app 1789 in Washington District, North Carolina.8

ii. Rebecca. Born app 1792 in North Carolina.8 Rebecca died in

Fleming Co.,

KY on 3 Sep 1856; she was 64.8 Buried in Royse Cemetery, Ringos

Mills,Fleming Co., KY.8

iii. Elizabeth. Born app 1806 in Fleming Co., KY.8 Elizabeth died

aft 1880;

she was 74.8

iv. Reuben. Born in 1794 in Bath Co. KY.12 Reuben died in Schultz

Creek,

Greenup, KY on 27 Sep 1841; he was 47.12 Buried in Bennetts

Chapel/Nippert Family Cemetery, Greenup, KY.12 In 1813 when Reuben was

19, he married Hannah JARVIS12, daughter of Solomon JARVIS.12 Born in

1795 in KY.12 Hannah died in Schultz Creek, Greenup, KY bef 1870; she

was 75.12 Buried in Bennetts Chapel/Nippert Family Cemetery, Greenup,

KY.12

v. Samuel B.. Born app 1795 in KY.8 Samuel B. died bef 1833; he was

38.8 vi. Mary (Polly ). Born app 1800 in Montgomery Co., KY.8 Mary

(Polly ) died

in Greenup Co., KY on 22 May 1852; she was 52.8 Buried in Greenup Co.,

KY.8

vii. Ezekiel. Born on 3 Jul 1797 in KY.8 Ezekiel died in Polk Co.,

Iowa on 1

Aug 1874; he was 77.8 Buried in Ridgedale Cemetery, Polk Co., Iowa.8

viii. Phelia.

ix. Joseph D.. Born in 1809 in Montgomery Co., KY.8

x. William Spencer. Born on 6 Oct 1813 in Fleming Co., KY.8 William

Spencer

died on 22 Feb 1813 in Buck Creek, Bath Co., KY.8 Buried in Ginter

Cemetery, Leatherwood, Menifee Co, KY.8

xi. Nancy. Born in 1814/1815 in Bath Co., KY.8 Nancy died bef 1850;

she was

36.8

xii. Jeremiah.

9. Sarah (Sally) HUNT. Born in 1779 in Old Frederick Co., now

Shenadoah Co., VA.1,11 Sarah (Sally) died in Randolph County, IN on 9

Sep 1831; she was 52.11 In 1793 when Sarah (Sally) was 14, she married

Abraham DENTON, son of James DENTON & Elizabeth OVERALL, in North

Carolina.8 Born in 1776 in Shenadoah Co., VA.8,11 Abraham died in Bath

Co., KY on 6 Nov 1813; he was 37.8 They had the following children:

i. Wesley. Born in 1798 in TN.11 Wesley died in Jan 1814; he was

16.11

On 23 Nov 1818 when Wesley was 20, he married Margaret ROSS11, in

Fleming Co., KY.11 Born ca 1802.11

34 ii. Elizabeth (1799-1857)

35 iii. Reuben (1801-1862)

iv. Jane. Born in 1803 in Fleming Co., KY.11

On 18 Oct 1831 when Jane was 28, she married Henry REED11.11 Born ca

1799.11

36 v. Nancy (1804-ca1874)

vi. Celia. Born in Nov 1806 in Fleming Co., KY.11 Celia died in KY

on 25 May

1882; she was 75.8 Buried in Locust Cemetery, Locust, Fleming Co.,

KY.8 On 11 Sep 1828 when Celia was 21, she married Eligah PERKINS11.11

37 vii. Benjamin Northcutt (1805-1853)

38 viii. Eleanor (Ellen) (1809-1846)

34. Elizabeth DENTON.5 Born on 13 Mar 1799 in Fleming Co., KY.8

Elizabeth died in Nettle Creek Twnshp., Randolph Co., IN on 12 Feb

1857; she was 57.8 On 26 Sep 1815 when Elizabeth was 16, she married

Jacob ROSS5,8, son of John ROSS & Susannah PIAT, in Bath Co., KY.11

Born on 8 Sep 1792.8 Jacob died in Randolph Co., IN on 30 Jun 1880; he

was 87.8 Buried in Huntsville Cemetery, Huntsville, Randolph Co., IN.8

They had the following children:

i. John. Born on 26 Jul 1817 in Fleming Co., KY.8

On 24 Mar 1840 when John was 22, he married Elizabeth Ball HUNT8, in

Randolph Co., IN.8 Born on 18 May 1823 in Randolph Co., IN.8

83 ii. Sarah (1820-1896)

iii. Thomas. Born on 7 Nov 1822 in Fleming Co., KY.8

iv. Edward D.. Born on 16 Dec 1824 in Fleming Co., KY.8

On 25 Jul 1850 when Edward D. was 25, he married Mary Ann HILL19.19

v. America. Born on 6 Oct 1826 in Fleming Co., KY.8

On 25 Dec 1881 when America was 55, she married William H. HAYES8.8

vi. Amanda B.. Born on 21 Aug 1828 in Fleming Co., KY.8

On 29 Jun 1845 when Amanda B. was 16, she married John W. KEENER19.19

vii. Artimency. Born on 16 Aug 1830.8

On 3 Dec 1848 when Artimency was 18, she married David WRIGHT19.19

viii. Wesley D.. Born on 1 May 1832.8

On 17 Nov 1850 when Wesley D. was 18, he married Cynthia Ann

AMBURN19,8.19

ix. Andrew V.. Born on 12 May 1832.8

x. Elijah P.. Born on 13 Aug 1838.8

xi. Matilda J.. Born on 7 Sep 1840.8

xii. Ellen P.. Born on 1 Feb 1843.8

I can send the information Marta sent me on Sarah (83) if you like.

Jim Lossing

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Names: DEATON, DENTON, HUNT, OVERALL, ROSS posted by Elizabeth Smith on

Tuesday, December 9, 1997

Jeremiah HUNT was the son of Reuben HUNT, Sr. and Nancy (DEATON/DENTON?) and the

grandson of John HUNT, Sr. and Mary (OVERALL?). All three HUNTs were Methodist

Episcopal ministers. In fact, I have seen Jeremiah HUNT's name on numerous marriage

returns in Fleming and Bath Counties, KY. Jeremiah was born abt 1788 in Washington

District, TN. He married, Mary ROSS on 27 October 1805. Mary was born abt 1786 in VA and

died 1860-1870 in KY. She was the daughter of John ROSS. I would like to find out more

about John ROSS. Is he the John ROSS of Fleming Co., who was born 18 September 1854 in

Prince William Co., VA and who applied for a Revolutionary War pension? I know that three

of his children included, Mary ROSS (see above); Jacob ROSS, born 1792, died 30 June 1880

in Randolph Co., IN ad married to Elizabeth DENTON, 26 September 1815 in Bath Co., KY;

and Margaret Ross, born 1800 and married to Wesley DENTON 23 November 1818 in

Fleming Co., KY. Please contact me if you have any information on these lines. I am willing

to exchange information.

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Subject:

Re: Jeremiah Fitzpatrick

Date:

Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:47:14 EST

From:

MFitzie@

To:

jtgrace@

Hi John,

Thanks for all of the Fitzpatrick family information! I have additional

information you can add in to some of the lines you sent, plus many other

Fitzpatrick lines -- if you're interested. Please leave me your snail-mail

address and I'll run off some data and mail it to you -- or we could exchange

GEDCOM.GED files if you'd like. I too am interested in ALL LINES and

branches. It would be nice to add your branch also.

I would really appreciate getting a copy of some of your pictures. They can

be laser copied at Office Max or any store like that (it's fairly cheap). Let

me know the cost and I'll send you a check to cover your expenses. Also, if

you have any documentation (birth, death, marriage certificates), I'd

appreciate a photocopy of those too. Let me know if you'd like me to

photocopy my documentation for you.

My snail-mail address is:

Mike Fitzpatrick

2600 79th Avenue North

Brooklyn Park, MN 55444-1829

I'm very excited about meeting you. I started genealogy research (in a

serious mode) about a year ago. I want to leave a solid, documented family

history record for future generations to use and continue with. I've sent the

GEDCOM.GED database to several interested relatives and have uploaded it to

several web sites.

Thank you again for sharing your information with me. I look forward to

sending you what I have. May our Lord and Savior bless you and your family.

Mike

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Subject:

[KYBATH-L] Ross-Piat query

Resent-Date:

Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:14:32 -0800 (PST)

Resent-From:

KYBATH-L@

Date:

Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:20:25 -0500

From:

Charles Piatt

To:

KYBATH-L@

Hello, John Grace,

A PIAT in Bath Co? That's amazing.

This is pure speculation. I have a Susannah PYATT b. circa 1763 and

single in 1780 who might be a candidate to have married John ROSS.

Along with her siblings she was named in her father's will written in

1780. Her father, Jacob PYATT, died 1784 in Peters or Union

Township,Washington Co PA. Jacob owned a tract of land called FIDELITY,

south of Library PA.

PYATT children named in the will are (roughly in order of age):

MARY, (c1746-1827), m John Wayt, lived Ohio Co VA/WV

JACOB, (c1749-?), m Nancy (?), lived in Adams Co OH

RACHEL (c1751-?)

ROBERT (15 Aug 1753 Path Valley PA-after 1835), Rev War pensioner, Ohio

Co

VA/WV, m Mary (?)

BENJAMIN (c1753, Path Valley PA-1851) lived in Adams Co OH, m Mary

WADDELL

REBECCA (c1757-?)

DINAH (c1761-?), single in 1780, m Thomas THORNBURG

SUSANNAH (c1763-?), single in 1780

JAMES (c1765-1847) lived in Monroe Co OH, m Nancy COLEMAN(?)

THOMAS (c1767-Path Valley-c1850), lived Richland Co OH and Grant Co IN

m Catherine BELL

ELIZABETH (c1769-?), single in 1780

One of the two Jacobs served with George Rogers Clark's army based at

the Falls of the Ohio beginning around 1780. A letter in the Draper

Papers says "give my regards to Mr and Mrs Pyatt ..." who are at the

Falls. Both the younger Jacob and Benjamin moved to Adams Co Ohio which

is not far from Bath Co KY. All circumstantial and speculative evidence

to be sure. Are any of these names used in subsequent generations of

your family to any degree? Have you any idea where John ROSS came from

or where he married Susan PIAT?

There were PIATTs in Jay and Randolph Counties, IN by the mid-1800s but

they were from another line. The PIATTs of Boone Co KY and Cincinnati

are still another line.

Tell me what you think.

Laverne Ingram Piatt

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Subject:

Re: Lookups for Campbell, Carter Co. Ky

Date:

Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:02:03 EST

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 10/26/98 10:20:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Sharich@ writes:

From Carter County, a pictorial history by George Wollford

Bethesda Presbyterian Church was organized 6/11/1819, at the home of Major

James Poage, with twenty members. In 1858, the present bldg, First

Presbyterian Church, was erected on what is now the corner of 16th Street and

Winchester Ave. Ashland. The original membership list is kept in the vault of

the Third National Bank for safekeeping.

Name of Church Members Remarks

Thomas CAMPBELL dismissed 1839

Thomas J CAMPBELL died

10/1820 Commonwealth Suits (Greenup County)

(950) Thomas CAMPBELL , charged with making an assault on William White.

(my note- remember there were 2 Thomas Campbells there now. BETTY)

end of Eastern Ky References

2/10/1874

Lawrence County, Ohio - Mrs Catherine Kouns died 2/2/1874 at the home of her

daughter, Mrs Thomas Campbell, in Lawrence County, Ohio. She was 90 years old.

End of BYGONE BYLINES

Betty

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ubject:

Re:Thomas Jefferson Campbell

Date:

Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:37:59 -0500

From:

"Sharon Dick"

To:

John,

My name is Sharon Dick, I saw your e-mail to Betty, about

T.J. Campbell. So I went to your home page and found Campbell, and

clicked on it. Lo and Behold my grand father Henry Willis Campbell was

their. I don't know how much information you have on Henry. I can sure

fill in the blank spaces. Henry was born April 13, 1878 in Olive Hill

, Kentucky He Died on April 13, 1951 In Wickenburgh Arizona.

He married 1st. Rachel Rodesia Tackett (Dysie) on the 10 February

1908. They had one child named Vernie Campbell. He then married a

Ethel Williamson on August 19, 1901, and divorced her on the 26th of

June 1911 at Grayson , Carter Co Kentucky. His 3rd marriage was to

Hattie Mae Dudley (Rose) on the 5th of February 1922 at Langlade

Wisconsin. Hattie is my Grandmother. Hattie and Sterling Dudley had 2

children. Arlie Leo Dudley 25 September 1917,

Anna Carol Dudley 30 December 1918. Hattie and Henry had the following

children: Blanche M.(Marcia) 19, july 1922, Sarah Jessie

(my mother) 21, February 1924, Roy Whitney 26 September 1927, Betty

Jean 15 May, 1931, Virgil Clyde 21 February 1934, Robert Willis 7

December, 1936 , Donald Dewayne 3 April 1938 and Sandra Sue & July,

1941.. I hope , if you didn't have this information it helps you with

you family.

Sharon Dick

Sharich@

Subject:

Re; T.J. Campbell

Date:

Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:19:50 -0500

From:

"Sharon Dick"

To:

"John Grace"

John,

Rachel and Henry were married 2nd. Rachel Tackett father name was

Thomas Jefferson Wilson Tackett. A Jim Tackett e-mailed me and said

that Henry divorced Rachel Rodessia, but he didn't say when that

happened. His e-mail address is jtackitt@ he has a lot more on

them. Sandra Sue it should be a 7.

If I am not being to nosy , how are you related to Henry Willis

Campbell. Oh by the way, Hattie, Henry's wife died on October 29,1992

in Greenfield, Indiana. I have more death information on the children

if you need that. I also have a picture of Henry, his brother and

Sarah. I Also have a photo of Thomas . If you would like copies let me

know.

Sincerely Sharon Dick

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Subject:

KYCARTER-D Digest V98 #140

Date:

Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:18:25 -0800 (PST)

From:

KYCARTER-D-request@

Reply-To:

KYCARTER-L@

To:

KYCARTER-D@

Subject:

KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 140

Today's Topics:

#1 Re: KYCARTER-D Digest V98 #139 ["Jim W. Tackitt, Pres./Editor" In a message dated 10/28/98 1:26:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Sharich@ writes:

>

> that Thomas had a sister and 2 brothers, but can't seem to find them.

> Fourth: My grandfather Henry Willis Campbell, son of Thomas Jefferson

> Campbell and Sarah Johnson. Henry was married at least three times. I

> know of one to A Rodesia Tackett, but I don't know if she died or if

> they were divorced. Then he married a Ethel Williamson, he divorced

> her on 26, June 1911, so he could marry

> Hattie Mae Rose. Then he was supposed to be married to a Missouri,

> before he married Rodesia. What I would like is his marriage date for

> Ethel Williamson, Rodesia Tackett, and Missouri.

> If this is possible. I appreciate your help very much and again I

> thank you. >>

>

To ?Sharich@?:

Rachel Rodisa "Dicie" Tackett, 1889-1981, dau. of Thomas Jefferson

Wilson Tackett & Mary Ann "Polly" Hicks Tackett, was marr. to Henry

Willis "Willis" Campbell on 10 Feb 1908 in Carter Co., KY. They were

divorced. I know of only one child born to Henry Willis & Rachel

Rodisa: Vernon Campbell (1908-1948). He was raised by his Tackett

grandparents.

Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520;

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Subject:

Re:Tackett

Date:

Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:34:33 -0500

From:

"Sharon Dick"

To:

"John Grace"

John

I only have a copy of the application of marriagelicense and a

marriage certificate.Name of the groom: Willis Campbell, name of the

bride Dysie Tackett. Her parents are Thomas Tackett, and Polly

Tackett. Willis parents are Thomas Campbell and Sarah Russell. After

T.J. Died in 1895 , Sarah married a Jack Russell. Rachel Rodesia is

listed on the 1910 census. It doesn't spell her middle name. I have

letters from other decendants of T.J. who spelled it both ways. Rachel

sisterParthena was a witness to the marriage.

Would you like copies of marriage license for Henry Willis, Marriage

License for T.J. copy of T.J. Will.?

I'll even send you copies of letter I recieved from the rest of the

line.

I also have a picture of Thomas Tackett, from a newspaper article .

I have to find it first.

I don't know if you have Thomas J. Campbell parents names or not.

Thomas was born according to William E. Campbell, it is in the family

bible that he has. Born January 5, 1803, but I have been told 1813 s

the year. His father Jesse Campbell as February 29, 1776, they say

scotland, but not for sure. Thomas mother was named

Catherine Zornes. William E. Campbell great great grandfather was

John Andrew, first son Of Dr. T.J. Campbell and Emzy Zornes.

John Andrew married (1)Elizabeth Offill and they had one child William

Henry Campbell, bills grandfather. John A. married (2)

Ellen Offill, after the death of her sister, and they had one son

named

Thomas Elza(named after his maternal grandfather Elzaphan Offill

whose wife was Martha Everman.

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Subject: Fitzpatrick Genealogy

Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:22:02 -0500

From: Kathy Fitzpatrick

Organization: home

To: jtgrace@

I found your name in the Roots Surname List and wondered if you had any

information on Jeramiah Fitzpatrick, died in 1847 in Jackson Co., Ohio?

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Rachel Rodisa "Dicie" Tackett, 1889-1981, dau. of Thomas Jefferson

Wilson Tackett & Mary Ann "Polly" Hicks Tackett, was marr. to Henry

Willis "Willis" Campbell on 10 Feb 1908 in Carter Co., KY. They were

divorced. I know of only one child born to Henry Willis & Rachel

Rodisa: Vernon Campbell (1908-1948). He was raised by his Tackett

grandparents.

Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520;

Tackett Assn. Website:

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ubject:

Internet Message

Date:

Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:35:46, -0500

From:

NVBQ47A@ (MR VEARL R STEWART)

To:

jtgrace@

John, The best I can do is to gibe you a possibility. My GGGG

Grandfather was John Ross from VA. He lived in Bath-Fleming County

in the late 1700-1800time. John had a son named John b.c1780. My

GGG Grandmother Mary Ross married a Jeremiah Hunt. May be a little

far fetched but is a possibility. I will check some old marriage

records from Bath. Vearl

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Posted by Sherry J. Lowe on Sun, 25 Oct 1998, in response to GRIZZELL, posted by

Joyce Hamilton on Wed, 14 Oct 1998

Surnames: Grizzell, Wilson, Wilhoit

Hi Joyce,

I found the following in Wolfford's Carter Co. Pictorial History:

"Grizzell, John, Clifty farmer. born 1812 in Virginia, son of George and Ruth Grizzell, who moved early to Carter

country. Married Cynthia. Offspring Sally (1832), Elizabeth (1834), Lucretia (1835), George (1837), Thomas (1841),

Lennea (1843), Nancy (1846), Lafayette (1849), and possibly others."

"Grizzell, John W., farmer. born Sept. 18, 1864, in Carter county, son of George and Fann Wilhoit Grizzell. Died

March 18, 1913."

"Grizzell, Hughie Edward, grocer, entrepreneur. Born Nov. 13, 1912, at Willard, son of Charles Edward and Essie

Wilson Grizzell. Atteneded Leon school, went into grocery business about 1940. Operated market, taxi, restaurant,

hotel and motel. Councilman one term. Democrat, Assembly of God."

Hope this helps.

God Bless

Cousin Sherry Lowe

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Subject:

Re: Armstrong, McDavid, Blevins

Date:

Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:54:31 EDT

From:

EnderWK@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

Dear Sherry, John Armstrong was first married to Eliza Green. They had two

children, James Haskell Armstrong & Dulcena Armstrong. After he was widowed he

married Lucinda (Lucy) McDavid. Their Children were:

Mary Elizabeth born abt 1838 & married 13 Dec., 1860 to B.F. Sammons

Elizabeth Jane born abt 1839 & married 22 Nov. 1856 to Odom Wallace,

William Henry born 19 Mar. 1842 & married Fanny Vencent,

Nancy Virginia born 17 April 1844 married 13 Feb. 1862 to Noah Blankenbeckler,

Martha born abt. 1847 married ? Everman,

Amanda G. born 22 Feb. 1849 married James DeHart,

Sarah born abt 1851 married Henry H. DeHart,

Lucinda F.born 04 Oct. 1853 married Austin Ross,

John M. born 03 Oct. 1856 married Emma Mae Ross,

George born may 1858 married Mary E. Brammer,

Louisa H. born 26 Nov. 1863 & died 13 Nov. 1866.

Lucy finished raising John's two children. They first lived on Deer Creek near

her brother Samuel McDavid, all their children were born there. They later

moved to Corey Branch near Olive Hill & John died there. Lucy went to went to

visit her brother John on Upper Little Fork & then to Samuel McDavid on Deer

Creek, she became ill & was taken to her daughter, ELizabeth wife of Frank

Sammons. She died within a few days less than a mile from her first home.

Roger Kennedy

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Subject:

Re:Armstrong, Mc David, Blevins

Date:

Sun, 2 Aug 1998 21:14:57 EDT

From:

EnderWK@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

Sherry, aol was about to cut me off so I sent the first part. How is your

husband connected to Mary Blevins wife of George McDavid? The Blevins of tough

bunch to track. We think Mary was the daughter of Daniel Blevins of Va. but

lack proof. She had a known sister in Wise Co. Va. her name was Sally Ramey

wife of Jacob Ramey Jr. I have a copy of a letter she sent to Mary & George

McDavid dated 18 Aug. 1857 from Geses Station, Wise Co., Va.

My other direct line is Frances Blevins wife of James Boggs. She was d/o James

& Hannah Blevins. they lived their last days in Lawrence Co., Ky. We Don't

think Mary Blevins was related to James at lest not father. When George

McDavid came to Law. Co. his first land was next to a William Blevins. This

William sold his land about the same time as George. At that time william was

of Morgen Co., Ky. Tell me mor e about your lines. All my lines to at least

the fifth generation were born or lived in Carter County, Ky

Roger Kennedy

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Subject:

Carter County Schools

Date:

Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:23:01 -0400

From:

Garrett and Sherry Lowe

To:

KYCARTER-L@

Hi Gang,

The Carter Co. Historical Society made an attempt to collect enough info on the Carter Co. Schools to publish a book. Unfortunately, there didn't seem to be enough interest, but it is my understanding that some of the material collected may be included in the Heritage II Book.

Due to difficulty of traveling from one area to another in Carter Co., each little community had its own school, many of them one room buildings. Most of these buildings also had other uses, such as community Churches. The following is a list of a few of the old Carter Co. schools that I can remember off the top of my head:

Charlotte Furnace-(Also known as Iron Hill) A one room school that my father, Rev. Bill V. Burnett, and his siblings attended for elementary school. They then transferred to Carter High School at Carter City.

Carter City (This use to be grades 1-12. Grades 1-6 were housed in an old frame building that once sat where the Carter Christian Church now stands, and grades 7-12 were housed in the stone building that now houses the Carter Elementary School, since the formation of the East and West Carter High Schools. I began attending at the old Carter School in 1961, when there was no indoor plumbing and each room had a pot belly stove. The older boys were usually sent down to the coal room to get coal to keep the fires burning. In the winter, you either froze or sweated, depending on how close you sat to the stove. We did have a water fountain and two sinks in the main hall, but most of the time either the pipes were frozen or in a state of repair that did not allow for water to actually flow from them. The classrooms opened from the main hall, and each room did have an exterior entrance of its own. The first grade teachers were Clevie McGlone and Cynthia Hilger. Second grade was!

taught by Christine Ramey. Third grade always seemed to have a new teacher for some reason. Fourth grade was taught by Hazel Menix. Fifth grade was taught by Carter Co. poet, Paul Salyers, and Sixth grade was taught by Norma McGlone. I can remember the bus trying to get up John Moore Hill in the snow and the older boys having to get off the bus and help the bus driver put chains on the bus to make it up the hill. There were nearly 75 students crammed onto the bus each day due to the shortage of buses. Because the same bus had to make two runs each morning and each evening (I lived approximately 13 miles from the school and there were others on our run that lived farther away) we normally had to catch the bus very early in the morning and didn't return home until nearly 5:00 in the evening. One year we missed so much school, because of the winter snows, that we had to go to school on Saturday for a couple of months to keep from losing the entire school year. Other teach!

ers that taught at Carter High School, which included the elementa

Charlene Potter, Kathryn McGlone, Ines Dean, Virgie McGlone, Glenn M. Sparks, Marice McGlone, Iva Jesse, Faye Phillips (Librarian), Audrey Plummer, and Mildred Lewis.

Olive Hill-The old building is now being turned into a Community Building and will house the Olive Hill Historical and Genealogical Society. Olive Hill High School Faculty 1947-48 included Hazel Roe Martin, Ruby Duncan Mabry, Bernice Stallard Kiser, Hayden Colson Parker, Parma Johnson Sparks, Marie Barbour Howard, Orene Mcglone Wilburn, Martha Stallard Keaton, Ollie Adams, Jacqueline Stamper, Myrtie Jessee Parker, Mary McClave, Thelma Cartee Roe, Lucille Cartwright Tomlinson, Frank Owens, Beulah Payne McGlone, Ralph "Buster" Cartee (later elected as Carter County Court Clerk) and Lelia Forrest.

Prichard- (This was originally the High School for Grayson, the old Prichard Building burned a few years ago and was rebuilt. Since the construction of East Carter and West Carter to consolidate all the little schools into two large High Schools, Prichard has been only an Elementary School). The 1952 Prichard High Faulty was made up of Leona Smith, Lorraine Brammell Criswell, Maxine Yates, Helen Adams Kees, Floris Gee, Hazel Horton Calhoun, Ethel Wolfford, Thena Terry Cox, Marie Justice Lewis, Harold Holbrook, Max Calhoun, Edna Parsons, Herald Bowling, Shupie Wheeler, Beatrice Haight, Maude Gilbert Lewis and Mary Elizabeth Castle Stringer.

McDavid School - Located near Beetle, I believe it had grades 1-8.

Upper Tygart - Elementary school, the older students normally finished school at Olive Hill High. The first stone school building constructed by the WPA. It opened in 1942.

Willard - now an elementary school to be consolidated with Hitchins Elementary.

Hitchins High School - Served as a high school for 30 years until the formation of East and West Carter High schools. It then became an elementary. In 1998, a decision was made to consolidate Hitchins Elementary and and Willard Elementary into one school and build a new building.

Others included, Perrys Branch, Tick Ridge, Aden, Bens Run, Breckinridge, Buckeye, Clark Hill, Corey, Davys Run Enterprise, Flat Rock, Fultz, Gravel Lick, Grayson Colored, Grayson Graded School, Greenbrier, Gregoryville, Henderson Branch, Johns Run, Kings Chapel, Lawton, Leatherwood, Locust, Lower Grassy, Lower Stinson, Music, Pine Springs, Plummer, Porter, Rattlesnake, Rock Springs, Salem, Smith Branch, Smith Creek, Denton, Anglin, McGlone Creek, Sulphur Springs, and Upper Stinson.

According to George Wolfford's "Carter County, A Pictorial History", "In 1850 there were 16 schools with 696 pupils, supported by $171 from local taxes, a matching amount from the state, and $1,392 in parent payments."

Sherry Lowe

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Subject:

Re: Carter County McDavids

Date:

Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:30:03 EST

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

McDavid family , believed to originally been DeBarry of Normandy, descended

from Patrick, Revolutionary veteran born in Donegal, Ireland: and George born

in Scott County, Va (1790-1875) George came to Lawrence County in 1827 with a

string of pack horses and in 1829 moved to Upper Little Fork section, married

Mary Blevins(1793-1862) . He was a hunter who reputedly killed three deer in

one day, after the Civil War. He had the habit of washing in the creek even

when he had to break the ice with his ax. He supplemented his income by making

hats for men, spinning wool into cone shape then blocking out crown and brim.

Offspring formed broad base for family in Carter County: James (1811-1891)

Lucy John (1816-90) Betty (1820-1909) Samuel (1822-1904) Nancy (1825-1913)

Daniel (1827-1906) Martha (1830-1908).

>From Carter County, a pictorical History

There's much more, I have to do it in parts (I'm having computer problems)

Betty

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Subject:

Re: Thomas J. Campbell

Date:

Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:23:37 -0500

From:

"Sharon Dick"

To:

Good Morning John;

I recieved your e-mail, here is T.J. Parents and his siblings.

Thomas Jefferson Campbell parents are:

Jesse Campbell

Catharine Zornes daughter of Andrew Zornes and Rebecca Llewellyn. I

think they got married in America, I am not for sure.

children: T.J. Campbell, A.J. Elizabeth, Nancy, Marcies, Jesse Jr.

Rebecca and Hiram. Jesse Campbell sibilings were Johnson and Nancy who

Married a Samuel Halton. I recieved this information from A lady by

the Name of Shirley Ramos, don't have her e-mail address, it was last

may , and then my computer was hit by lightning, and I lost everthing.

I just got my computer back in September. If you find out anything

else on the above people please let me know. I will do the same for

you.

I was checking out your web page on your line,. My Great Aunt Goldie

was married to a Joe Mocko. Also on your web page do you need

information on my mother Sarah Jesse Campbell.? If so let me know I

will fill you in on the blanks. Children, husbands, year of death, and

also the year of death on the rest of her brother and sisters.

Sincerely

Sharon

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Subject:

family

Date:

Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:13:31 +0000

From:

"cwatson"

To:

jtgrace@

My grandmother was Anna Catherine Tulga.

She was married in 1914 in South Point. She married Thomas Nelson

Fullerton.

She was born in 1884.

Do you know anything about her family?

She had a bother/cousin? who had a business in Ironton but she died

when I was five and no one seems to know anything.

Is it possible there is a link.

Carol Fullerton Watson

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Subject:

Fwd: Duncan (1 of 2)

Date:

Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:12:16 EDT

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 6/9/98 7:04:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

j.p.waddell@worldnet. writes:

>

Hello Phyllis,

I am not a DUNCAN researcher I was only doing a look up. There are at least 2

others DUNCAN researchers and 1 GRIZZELL - so I posted your message

Betty

Subject:

Re: Duncan (1 of 2)

Date:

Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:45:38 -0600

From:

"James Waddell"

To:

Hello

My Ggrandfather was Lawson Wheatley Duncan; my grandfather was his son

Jefferson who married Emma Jane Dixon Smith; my mother was their daughter

Amanda Minnie who married my father Joseph Grizzell. I would be interested

in sharing information. Phyllis "Grizzell" Waddell

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> From: BSWithrow@

> To: KYCARTER-L@

> Subject: Duncan (1 of 2)

> Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 9:54 AM

>

> Hello,

>

> Duncan family of Scottish descent tracing to William Duncan I , born

1/7/1630

> in Perthshire. Leroy Duncan born 1779 in Fauquier county, Va son of

Joseph

> and Jemima Murr Duncan , married Agnes (Aggy) Williams, and they moved to

> Greenup county in 1818-19. she died 8/8/1859 and he in 1870. Their

offspring

> included Eli Quentin (1807) Isaac (1810) Lawton Wheatly (1813) Thomas and

> Edward Roy (1823) .For continuing interest contact John L Sharp 120 E

> Second Street Morehead, Ky 40351

>

> Duncan,Allen Grayson Grayson cabinetmaker. born 12/22/1819 served in 22

nd KVI

> in Civil War and as jailer. lived at Beach Grove died 5/7/1895

>

> Duncan,James Richard "Dick" teacher, assessor. born 9/17/1875 son of

James H

> and Louisa Garvin Duncan , assesser 1926-37. mason, republician died

5/7/1970

>

> Duncan, John Dillard, bricklayer born 3/6/1847 in Russell co, Va son of

John

> and Leah France Duncan died 7/18/1932

>

> Duncan,Jonce bricklayer, born 9/5/1876 son of Dillard and Martha Garvin

> Duncan died 12/28/1962

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Ross researcher: Bette Greenhill, jfjj98@

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ubject:

Re: 1900 Census for Jackson County

Date:

Sun, 29 Nov 1998 07:29:36 -0700

From:

"Gerry Hubacka"

To:

"John W. Grace"

John,

Thanks for the additional info on your Fitzpatrick's, if I find out who

Adolf is I'll let you know. Here's the Cramblit info I found:

COAL TOWNSHIP

RICHARDS, Mary, born Mar 1870, 30, widow, had 1 child, 1 now living,

born in OH, parents born in Wales, PA

Marzuela, dau., born Mar 1896, 4, born in OH, parents born in OH

Cramblet, Waleska, servant, born Nov 1881, 8, born in OH, parents born in

OH

JACKSON TOWNSHIP

CRAMLET, Thomas, born Apr 1846, 54, Carpenter, born in OH, parents born in

OH

Mary L., wife, born Mar 1845, 55, married 30 years, had 6 children,

4 now living, born in OH, parents born in OH

Susan, dau., born Jan 1877, 23, born in OH, parents born in OH

Edward, son, born Dec. 1883, 16, born in OH, parents born in OH

Seames, Susan, mother, born Feb. 1825, 75, widow, born in OH, parents born

in OH

LIBERTY TOWNSHIP

CRAWBLET, William, 48, Coal Miner, born in OH (this township doesn't have

as much info)

Harriett, wife, 38, born in OH

Waleska, dau., 18, born in OH

Basta, dau., 16, born in OH

Talma G., dau., 11, born in OH

Eugene, son, 4, born in OH

Leona G., dau., 1, born in OH

Finn, Mary, mother-in-law, 73, born in England

I kept the names spelled as they appeared in the books.

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Subject:

Cramblit

Date:

Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:38:49 -0500

From:

"Robert Luke"

To:

Dear John,

Tina forwarded me your name as a Cramblit researcher. I may have some information for

you regarding the descendants of Samuel Smyley Cramblett (father of Thomas E. Cramblit

who married Mary Elizabeth Deems) Would love to trade info, as I am trying to identify all

of the descendants and attach this line to the Jefferson Co./Anne Arundel MD folks.

Lisa Porter-Burt, 13403 Sand Rock Ct., Chantilly, VA 20151

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Subject:

Re: genealogy

Date:

Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:23:56 +0900

From:

The Palmers

To:

"John W. Grace"

References:

1

John,

Unfortunately I don't think I can help you much. Everything we have on

the Ross family is on our homepage at

. Wish I could

be of some assistance. Good luck in your research.

Doug Palmer

"John W. Grace" wrote:

> Doug and Sara, I see on your web page that you have a John N. Ross, the

> son of William Ross and Sarah Vincent. I have been trying to trace my

> 2gr grandfather, John Nelson Ross, for a number of years. Do you have

> any more info on this family? My John N. Ross was born in Kentucky in

> 1818. I have no record of his parents, but when he was married, his

> marriage bond was signed by a Joshua Van Landingham, and his wife

> Elizabeth. I believe Elizabeth Van Landingham was Elizabeth Ross,

> possibly the sister of John. John was married in Bath County, Ky,

> although I believe he may have been living in Fleming County. He died in

> Carter County, Ky. in 1890.

>

> Any chance the the two John N. Rosses could be the same person?

>

> John W. Grace

>

> Oakland, Ca.

ROSS, William

Family:

Spouse:

VINCENT, Sarah

Birth : 1788

Death : AFT 1850

Parents:

Father: VINCENT, William H

Mother: HANKS, Hannah

Children:

ROSS, Emily

ROSS, Susan

ROSS, James H

ROSS, William

ROSS, Mary J

ROSS, John N

ROSS, Edward E

ROSS, Elizabeth

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Subject: Re: The Ross saga continues... Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:48:08 -0500 From: "Cathy Abernathy" To:

Hey!Betty Greenhill's husband, Ronnie, is distantly related to us. I believe itis through the Jarvis line, but I don't have my info here with me at work,so I'm not sure.

That would be a nice gesture for John and Nancy (about their markers), but that is awfully expensive. What size are you talking about? I work for theCity of Morganton and we maintain two cemetaries. Our grounds manager hasgood contacts with a few marker companies. We got one that was damaged by amower replaced for free and the stuff to repair some vandalized ones at areally good price. Maybe James could help with getting some prices orsomething.

I have a lot of Whitt and Jarvis info that I will be more than glad to share as soon as I get it organized and in a database that I can email to you. I am sort of doing better or gathering info in and haven't spent too much time organizing. That is going to have to change. I've outgown my software and am having to change to Family Tree Maker. Actually, I've got the software in and loaded, just don't have anything loaded in. Don't know if I can move from Family Ties to Family tree maker. Would make life easier if I could. Much less typing.

The pictures on the Web site have a lot of my Crawford family on it. The1913 John Milton Crawford reunion picture is more of my grandfather's immediate siblings than John Milton's children. As a matter of fact, Paw is in the second row, about 2 or 3 from the left. A young man, white shirt. Very handsome. So, that makes 3 pictures of Manford in there. The picture of Maw is probably my most favorite. Such a big smile. Now, not bragging, but many of my cousins say that I favor Maw in the picture. I have another picture of her some years later, she's heavier and wearing glasses, and I don't resemble her in that picture.

The Sanders and Lavina Crawford are Paw's grandparents, and Ham and Molly Crawford are his parents. The Mary Ann Crawford Richards is Sanders and lavina's daughter (and Ham's sister). The one picture over to the right that says something about Fort Underwood is an interesting story if you gt into the detail on it. It's lengthy. Did you ever determine for sure if Nancy was a Kinneman or an Underwood? Wouldn't it be something if that were some of our Underwood kinfolk??? Was a big feud.

So, our family has taken over the website for the time being. As soon as they open it up to pictures after WWI, I have a few more to send. When are you planning on being in Olive Hill again? Got to run, should earn a paycheck today. cathy

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Re: John Nelson Ross, 1818, Ky.Posted by Bette Greenhill on December 19, 1998 at 16:25:32:In Reply to: Re: John Nelson Ross, 1818, Ky. posted by Bette Greenhill on September 24, 1998 at

14:50:13:

I have info my friend in Mass. sent on the chidren of John Nelson and Nancy Kinnimon. They were Jeremiah Jacob Ross, Rachel, David, Alice, Amanda, John, Reuben, George, 8 kids I had a man write me Jeremiah went by Jacob. Sarah jane Ross married David Ross They had 5 kids. They were Florence 11-8-1881 to 2-11-1936 md. Edgar Allen "Eddie" Tabor 2-14-1879 to 4-17-1952, md. on 9-10-1902. They had 9 kids. 1.Gladys Tabor 1-28-1905-1984 Tombstone I'll use T.S. aftr this. md. Frank DeBord 1897-9-4-1964 T.S. 13 kids. Eual 1-23-1925, Virginia Debord 7-23-1928,Bettie Debord 10-29-1926, Billie Ray Debord 7-11-1930-104-1964 He was logging on my father-in-laws farm, a tree fell on him Bobby Debord 5-9-1942, Roger 9-26-1948, Shirlene "Shirley"Debord 4-15-1939, Vivian 9-23-1934,Wanda Sue 3-16-1945, her twin Jonda 5-16-1945, Garnet Faye 3-10-1932-11-24-1940 T.S.,Jay L. 2-2-1937-2-9-1937, T.S. Nadine 4-23-1941-4-23-1941 T.S.

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ct: KYCARTER-D Digest V98 #149 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:50:50 -0800 (PST) From: KYCARTER-D-request@ Reply-To: KYCARTER-L@

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KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 149

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Re: KYCARTER-D Digest V98 #148

Date:

Fri, 13 Nov 1998 19:22:50 -0600

From:

"sherry"

To:

KYCARTER-L@

Hello,

I hope someone can help me find the date of marriage for George B. Sergent

to Florence Rice Bellew in Carter County between 1925-1935.

Thank you,

Steve

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> From: KYCARTER-D-request@

> To: KYCARTER-D@

> Subject: KYCARTER-D Digest V98 #148

> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 4:18 AM

>

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Subject:

Re: Carter County McDavids

Date:

Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:05:03 EST

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 11/11/98 8:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cawils@ writes:

>

Sturgill family , apparently descended from William Sturgill, born about 1785

in Grayson County, Va and perhaps known as "Big Bill" Sturgill . His children

born in Va , included William ( born 1808) David (1818 or 1825) Benjamin

(1827) John (1831) Isaac ((1835) . The family descended from John Stodgell

born about 1625 in England and moved to Essex County, Va. The name is

sometimes written Sturgeon.

Sturgill Family, see "A brief History of the Sturgill Family from 1650-1960",

David Andrew Sturgill, College Park, Md.

Sturgill, Elijah Beetle farmer, born 10/31/1847, in county. son of Hiram and

Polly Leadingham Sturgill.died 12/17/1931.

Sturgill, Virgil Leon , educator, musician, athlete. born 1897 in county.

**more on him.

Sturgill, Lafayette born 4/23/1852. son of Benjamin and Nancy McDavid

Sturgill. died 5/1/1929.

Sturgill, Solomon, pioneer, born about 1805 in Ashe County, NC son of John and

Jemima Wells Sturgill. died 1855 in Carter County. married Rebecca Tompkins.

offspring were: Elizabeth (McDavid) (1834) Nancy (1836) John Frances (1839)

Matilda (Pennington) (1841) Jemima (1843) Rebecca (1845) Solomon (1847) and

Amanda (McDavid) 1852.

>From Carter County, a pictorical History

Betty

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Subject:

Re: Carter County McDavids

Date:

Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:04:45 EST

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 11/11/98 8:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cawils@ writes:

>

Gilliam family , descended from Charles, Jesse and John who lived in Lawrence

County section of Carter in 1830.

Alexander family descended of John who came from Va to Tygart about 1790.

married in Fleming County about 1799 to Catharine Gilbert. Daughter of

Bbarney and Mmargaret Gilbert of Pa. Apparently dead by 1820.Known children

Asa, Lewis and Elizabeth Alexander (Braford) For continuing interest, see Mrs

Nancy Masters, Olive Hill, Ky.

Porter Family, see " Pickin' up the Porters", 1984 Henry G Martin, 200

Longview Drive, Richmond, Ky 40475.

Porter, Bruce Walton, mayor of Grayson born 12/19/1922 son of Fred and Mattie

Carroll Porter.

**more on him.

Porter, Levi Sheffield, Lawton farmer. born 1/12/1845 in Va. son of Andrew J

and Lucy Cornett Porter. Served with Confederacy in 8th Va Cav, 5th Ky Inf

and 22nd Va Inf died 1/23/1926.

Porter, Martin Van Buren, farmer, born 1/12/1845 in Va. Son of George Porter.

died 9/9/1923, at Grayson.

End of Carter County, a pictorical history.

8/2/1916

Boyd County - Cecil Ison, age 18, was found dead last Sat beside the railroad

tracks of Coalton, where he fell off a moving train. He was the son of Arch

Ison.

10/15/1884

Carter County (Grayson) James Kennedy, B.W. Burchett, Dr Strother, Isom Ison,

Joe Davidson, Richard Wamack (Womack) and Com. Boggs left here for Kansas. All

except Dr Strother will make Kansas their future home.

1/19/1882

Elliott County ? - Isom Ison was appointed Commissioner to contract with a

suitable poor house helper for the year.

1/5/1882

Greenup County ( recent marriages) - includes John F Coffee to Ada Alexander

11/15/1883

Louisa - Ran. Burton and wife and family, Marion Walters" wife and daughter,

Stanton F Dean and Mrs John Sturgill (formerly Walters) , who have been

visiting here for several weeks, returned last week to their home in Kansas.

9/25/1884

Lawrence County Index - born to John Sturgill and wife, a 10 pound girl.

2/16/1882

Elliott County - married since last report (includes) W.H. Murray to Mary

Sturgill.

10/30/1884

Carter County (Grayson) - The courthouse was filled this morning to witness

the trial of Fugitt for the killing of Anglin, case continued till next term.

Last Thursday morning the people of Grayson were scared nearly out of their

wits, being awakened by a rumbling sound as of thunder. I looked and beheld

F.R. Porter, the famous drummer of the 22nd Regiment of Ky. followed by a

fifer and drummers No 2,3 and 4, harmless little boys who were shouting over

the music. I learned there would be a Democratic rally that day and by noon

the town was filled with democrats.

4/6/1882

Carter County (Grayson) - Mrs George Pporter died last Sat night.

8/30/1883

Carter County (Grayson) - Miss Rebecca Porter, age 18, daughter of the late

James Porter and a former resident of this place , died at the 21st, at the

residence of her uncle, W.R. Porter at Scranton, Kansas.

10/23/1884

Elliott County - the funerals of Mrs Mary Burton and Daniel Burton were

preached last Sunday at Bunkers Hill by Rev Levi Porter and others.

1/7/1873

Wayne County, WVa (deaths) (includes) Rofe Porter, 12/17/1872 at Buffalo

Shoals, age 40.

End BYGONE BYLINES

No Sammons, Gilliam

Betty

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Subject:

Re: Carter County McDavids

Date:

Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:48:50 EST

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 11/11/98 8:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cawils@ writes:

>

1806 Greenup County Tax List

includes

Samons, Thomas

A. Catlett Jr vs A Catlett Sr - 7/27/1816 (Greenup County)

Jury includes

Thomas Samons

and

H Catlett vs Samuel Neal 4/29/1817

Jury includes

Thomas Samons

Alexander - there are 19 pages with references to Alexander, if you can give

me a first name?

Catlettsburg Sentinel

The Clark County Democrat introduces the last one heard from as follows: James

Isom, who lives opposite the mouth of Fourmile Creek in Madison County, was

born in 1768, and is consequently 108 years old. He is still active and in

possession of all his faculties. A short time back he talked of moving to

Texas to begin life, but abandoned the idea on account of the death of his

wife who was 103 years old. He is living at present with his son, George

Isom, and ought to go to the Centennial.

4/27/1881

An 18 month old child of Irwin B Pierce Jr, was killed yesterday by a log

falling on him. He was at the house of Jasper Bloomfield, with his mother, on

a visit, and while playing in the yard, a young man, named Henry Gillam, who

lives at Bloomfields , undertook to pass him., carrying a log on his shoulder.

When just opposite the child, the bark of the log slipped, which caused it to

fall on the little fellow, crushing his skull and killing him instantly.

Porter - there are 23 pages with references to Porter, can you give me first

names?

No Sturgill

End of Eastern Ky References

Betty

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Subject: My Bonds Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:27:52 -0600 From: Darrell Warner To: KYCARTER-L@

It has been quite a while since I have posted anything about the Bonds in my

tree. I am researching the Robert Henderson of Carter County, Kentucky line and

descendants of the same.Thanks,Darrell

Descendants of Basil Sheffer Bond

1 Basil Sheffer Bond b: March 11, 1814 in Washington County, Pennsylvania d:

September 07, 1895 in Carter County, Kentucky

. +Nancy Henderson b: October 21, 1809 in Kentucky d: June 13, 1882 in Carter

County, Kentucky m: April 09, 1835 Father: James Alexander Henderson

Mother: Jane (Jennie) Miller

. 2 Mary Jane Bond b: July 15, 1837 in Carter County, Kentucky d: February 02,

1906 in White Oak, Greenup County, Kentucky (buried in Bennett Cemetery)

..... 3 William M Buckner

..... +James Buckner b: August 1833 in Carter County, Kentucky d: May 27, 1864

in Buzzards Roost, Georgia m: March 17, 1854 Father: Overton M Buckner

Mother: Elizabeth Fultz

..... 3 Nancy Elizabeth Buckner b: March 31, 1855 in Carter County, Kentucky

d: June 18, 1938 in Chicago, Illinois

......... +Lafayette W. Tabor b: July 12, 1850 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

September 19, 1916 in Carter County, Kentucky m: December 07, 1871 in Carter

County, Kentucky Father: Addison Carl Tabor Mother: Matilda Henderson

......... 4 Brunetta Matilda Tabor b: December 07, 1872 d: January 17, 1903

............. +Allen O. Underwood m: February 11, 1891

......... 4 Erastus Franklin Tabor b: July 22, 1875 d: November 16, 1933

............. +Rebecca (Becky) Morris d: December 25, 1907 m: December 21,

1896

......... *2nd Wife of Erastus Franklin Tabor:

............. +Carrie Adkins b: March 28, 1888 d: July 15, 1959 m: March 23,

1911

......... 4 Lucille Florence Tabor b: October 17, 1877 d: July 13, 1964

............. +Otis Patton m: January 22, 1907 in San Francisco,

California

......... 4 Commodore Jefferson Tabor b: August 06, 1880 d: April 19, 1971

............. +Sarah Hull b: January 17, 1882 d: June 16, 1945 m: May 03,

1905

......... 4 Mary Ann Tabor b: November 13, 1882 d: January 19, 1904

......... 4 Luther Napoleon Tabor b: September 06, 1885 d: August 1976 in

Indiana

............. +Bertha Pelfry Eden b: January 04, 1901 d: December 25, 1988 in

Indiana

......... *2nd Wife of Luther Napoleon Tabor:

............. +Wanda Webb b: October 15, 1891 d: February 06, 1928 in Carter

County, Kentucky m: March 05, 1911

......... 4 Cressie McKee Tabor b: December 06, 1888 in Kentucky d: March 31,

1980 in Tigard, Oregon

............. +Dennie Proctor Bays b: April 12, 1884 d: June 03, 1956 m:

February 28, 1909 Father: Newton White Bays Mother: Amanda H. Perry

......... 4 Nelson Tabor b: May 04, 1891 d: May 06, 1891

......... 4 Everett Tabor b: May 29, 1893 d: July 03, 1926 in Floyd County,

Kentucky

............. +Bess Gilbert m: November 28, 1922

......... 4 Ethel Tabor b: September 22, 1895

............. +Charles Lamasters m: December 29, 1915

......... *2nd Husband of Ethel Tabor:

............. +John J. Ferles b: June 15, 1895 d: June 06, 1953 m: April 12,

1929

......... 4 Russell Tabor b: September 17, 1898

............. +Ester Hayes

..... 3 Mary Miller Buckner b: April 24, 1857 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

March 25, 1925

......... +William Jason Erwin

..... 3 Martha Ann Buckner b: October 12, 1859 in Carter County, Kentucky

......... +Thomas Rhoden m: August 13, 1876 in Carter County, Kentucky

..... 3 Sara Alice Buckner b: October 23, 1861 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

November 22, 1930 in Portsmouth, Scioto County, Ohio

......... +Amos D. Gray m: May 07, 1880 in Carter County, Kentucky

. *2nd Husband of Mary Jane Bond:

..... +William R. Wilburn b: 1839 d: August 02, 1921 m: February 09, 1867 in

Carter County, Kentucky

. 2 James Marion Bond b: April 12, 1838 in Kentucky d: September 08, 1920 in

Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Dean Cemetery, Carter County, Ky)

..... +Malinda (Mary) Alexander b: April 26, 1835 d: May 01, 1873 in Carter

County, Kentucky (buried in Dean Cemetery, Carter Co., Kentucky) m:

September 20, 1857 Father: Lewis Alexander Mother: Elizabeth Gorman

..... 3 Nancy Elizabeth Bond b: 1858 in Kentucky

..... 3 Basil Jackson Bond b: February 24, 1860 in Kentucky d: August 21, 1921

......... +Easter Miller b: January 03, 1856 m: March 28, 1880 Father:

Thomas Jefferson Miller Mother: Cynthia S. Wilburn

..... 3 Richard Allen Bond b: May 17, 1862 in Kentucky d: September 03, 1948

......... +Jemima Jane Tabor b: March 15, 1862 d: March 15, 1892 in Carter

County, Kentucky (buried in Tabor Cemetery, Carter Co., Kentucky) Father:

Napolean Bonaparte Tabor Mother: Frances De Hart

..... *2nd Wife of Richard Allen Bond:

......... +Sally Bocook

..... *3rd Wife of Richard Allen Bond:

......... +Malena Richmond

..... 3 Lewis Washington Bond b: 1866 in Kentucky

..... 3 Ephraim Bond b: 1868 in Kentucky

......... +Sarah (Sally) Tabor b: April 02, 1871 Father: Napolean

Bonaparte Tabor Mother: Frances De Hart

..... 3 Robert Bond b: 1870 in Kentucky

......... +Mary E Miller

..... 3 Sherman Bond b: 1871 in Kentucky d: June 24, 1929 in Boyd County,

Kentucky (buried in Les Erwin Cemetery, Carter County, Kentucky)

......... +Vira Unknown b: 1885 d: January 04, 1961 in Boyd County, Kentucky

(buried in Les Irwin Cemetery, Carter Co., Kentucky)

......... 4 Letha E Bond b: February 12, 1907 d: January 13, 1914 in (buried

in Les Erwin Cemetery, Carter Co., Kentucky)

. *2nd Wife of James Marion Bond:

..... +Mary Elizabeth Miller b: December 24, 1853 d: March 21, 1931 in Carter

County, Kentucky m: October 09, 1873 Father: Thomas Jefferson Miller Mother:

Cynthia S. Wilburn

..... 3 Ladora Belle Bond b: June 12, 1876 d: April 27, 1949 in (buried in

Dean Cemetery, Carter County, Kentucky)

......... +Owen Miller b: September 14, 1859 d: May 08, 1936 in (buried in Dean

Cemetery, Carter County, Kentucky)

..... 3 Thomas Jefferson Bond b: October 04, 1877 d: January 29, 1946 in

Fayette County, Kentucky (buried in Bowen Chapel Cemetery, Carter Co, Kentucky)

......... +Josephine Ervin b: June 26, 1882 d: February 23, 1963 m: April

15, 1900

..... 3 Malinda E. (Mindy) Bond b: December 15, 1879 d: October 15, 1965

......... +William Ed Bond b: September 08, 1874

..... 3 Watt Shaffer Bond b: March 08, 1882 d: December 03, 1961 in Carter

County, Kentucky

......... +Martha J. Hale b: July 09, 1892 d: April 15, 1956 in Boyd County,

Kentucky Father: Thomas Hale Mother: Victoria Henderson

......... 4 William Donald Bond b: February 09, 1913 d: August 15, 1993

............. +Grace Reeves b: September 02, 1915 d: February 18, 1965 m:

July 24, 1934

......... 4 Clyde Arnold Bond b: March 08, 1915 d: February 25, 1982 in Rowan

County, Kentucky

............. +Ithel Cline b: April 19, 1919 d: December 01, 1979 in Rowan

County, Kentucky Father: Camilius (Coot) Cline Mother: Carrie Patrick

............. 5 Rosemary Bond b: February 20, 1938

................ +James Orville Stanley b: January 09, 1938

............. 5 Richard Bond b: October 12, 1941

................ +Bertha E. Burchett m: April 23, 1966

............. 5 Roger Bond b: August 03, 1943

................ +Lea Smith

............. 5 Dottie Lou Bond b: August 10, 1945

............. 5 Connie Jane Bond b: April 20, 1947

............. 5 Michael Bond b: June 03, 1949 d: June 04, 1949

............. 5 Ronnie Gene Bond b: April 15, 1951

............. 5 Diana Lynn Bond b: March 07, 1954

............. 5 Martha Idelia Bond b: July 25, 1956

............. 5 Kathy Marie Bond b: July 14, 1957

......... 4 James Thomas Bond b: March 02, 1919 d: March 02, 1919 in Carter

County, Kentucky

......... 4 Virgil Thomas Bond b: June 03, 1920

............. +Mary Clay b: March 16, 1926 d: May 25, 1974 in Rowan County,

Kentucky

......... 4 Margaret Bond b: March 20, 1923 d: November 28, 1981

............. +John Ellison

......... *2nd Husband of Margaret Bond:

............. +Perry L. Helterbrand b: March 24, 1924 d: July 15, 1944

......... 4 Ruth May Bond b: April 23, 1925

............. +Ervin Waltz b: October 29, 1922 d: March 21, 1982 m: November

21, 1945

......... 4 Lucille Bond b: September 11, 1927

............. +Raymond Stanley b: April 08, 1936

......... 4 Robert Bond b: February 06, 1930 d: February 02, 1980

............. +Martha Winegardner b: February 06, 1932 m: June 01, 1954

......... *2nd Wife of Robert Bond:

............. +Donna Rafferty b: February 21, 1939 m: August 28, 1957

......... 4 Curtis Bond b: December 02, 1932 d: December 02, 1932

..... 3 John Milton Bond b: March 30, 1884 d: November 04, 1967 in Rowan

County, Kentucky

......... +Wendy Dickerson

..... 3 Joe Hooker Bond b: April 19, 1886 d: September 17, 1968 in Boyd

County, Kentucky (buried in Dean Cemetery, Carter County,

Kentucky) Fact 2: SS# issued in: Kentucky Fact 3: Social

Security #: 403-05-5534

......... +Nora Jordan b: October 06, 1888 d: December 1984 in (buried in Dean

Cemetery, Carter County, Kentucky)

..... 3 Harrison Robin Bond b: August 26, 1888 d: April 10, 1968 in Carter

County, Kentucky (buried in Garvin Ridge Cemetery, Carter Co., Kentucky)

......... +Lily J. King b: July 21, 1891 d: January 25, 1918

..... *2nd Wife of Harrison Robin Bond:

......... +Mona DeHart b: January 18, 1898 d: December 1983 in Carter County,

Kentucky

..... 3 Martha Della Bond b: June 21, 1892 d: March 28, 1974

......... +William King b: October 19, 1894 d: October 28, 1936

..... *2nd Husband of Martha Della Bond:

......... +David York b: September 23, 1886 d: October 11, 1964

..... *3rd Husband of Martha Della Bond:

......... +Logan Erwin b: December 27, 1888 d: February 22, 1916 m: January

25, 1912

..... 3 George Morton Bond b: November 15, 1894 d: July 01, 1977 in Rowan

County, Kentucky (buried in Garvin Ridge Cemetery, Carter County, Kentucky

......... +Arlett Tackett b: October 09, 1898 d: March 05, 1981 m: March 25,

1916

. 2 George Washington Bond b: July 05, 1841 in Kentucky d: January 07, 1928

..... +Elizabeth Dickenson b: February 14, 1851 d: May 25, 1887 m: January

06, 1867

..... 3 George F Bond b: Abt. 1867 in Kentucky

..... 3 John M Bond b: Abt. 1869 in Kentucky

..... 3 Charles F Bond b: Abt. 1872 in Kentucky

..... 3 William E Bond b: Abt. 1874 in Kentucky

..... 3 Basil J Bond b: Abt. 1877 in Kentucky

. *2nd Wife of George Washington Bond:

..... +Samantha Rose m: October 05, 1884

. *3rd Wife of George Washington Bond:

..... +Ellen Tabor b: March 24, 1870 d: February 1903 m: February 19, 1893

. *4th Wife of George Washington Bond:

..... +Molly Falkenstin b: February 04, 1870 m: July 11, 1903

. 2 Basil Jackson Bond b: February 19, 1844 in Kentucky d: September 17, 1862

. 2 Elizabeth Ann Bond b: October 31, 1846 in Kentucky

..... +Lewis Nordike Kitchen b: October 16, 1844 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

1910 in Kansas m: October 20, 1864 in Carter County, Kentucky Father: James

Kitchen Mother: Malinda Trowbridge

..... 3 Charles Kitchen b: 1868

..... 3 James Kitchen b: 1870

..... 3 Laura Kitchen b: 1871

..... 3 Eva J Kitchen b: 1890 in Harper County, Kansas

. 2 Barbara Alice Bond b: February 04, 1849 in Kentucky

..... +Oscar J. Smith

. 2 Martha Ann Bond b: September 06, 1852 in Kentucky d: August 28, 1934 in

Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Bethel Cemetery, Carter County, Ky)

..... +Benjamin F. Burchett b: November 22, 1847 in Stinson Creek, Carter

County, Kentucky d: August 07, 1920 in Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Bethel

Cemetery, Carter County, Ky) m: November 18, 1869 Father: Benjamin F.

Burchett Mother: Elizabeth Watson

..... 3 Eliza Jane Burchett b: September 06, 1870 d: August 22, 1958

......... +Aaron Burchett b: October 21, 1857 d: December 02, 1902 in Carter

County, Kentucky (buried in Bethel Cemetery, Carter Co., Kentucky)

......... 4 Bert Burchett

..... *2nd Husband of Eliza Jane Burchett:

......... +John Howard

..... 3 William Armstard (Judge) Burchett b: July 06, 1872 in Smokey Valley,

Carter County, Kentucky d: January 03, 1946 in Carter County, Kentucky (buried

in Grayson Cemetery, Carter County, Ky)

......... +Emma Wingo b: January 10, 1869 d: June 26, 1902

..... *2nd Wife of William Armstard (Judge) Burchett:

......... +Leah S. Duncan b: July 26, 1867 d: September 10, 1911 in Carter

County, Kentucky

..... *3rd Wife of William Armstard (Judge) Burchett:

......... +Bertha McGuire b: August 31, 1888 d: August 27, 1968 in Rowan

County, Kentucky

..... 3 Nancy Elizabeth Burchett b: June 19, 1874 in Carter County, Kentucky

d: January 31, 1966 in Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Burchett Cemetery,

Carter County, Ky)

......... +Asbury Burchett b: January 30, 1871 d: March 22, 1935 in Carter

County, Kentucky (buried in Burchett Cemetery, Carter County, Ky) m: December

14, 1892 Father: Thomas "Comical" Burchett

......... 4 Benjamin Albert Burchett b: November 10, 1893 d: March 26, 1969 in

Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Burchett Cemetery, Carter Co.,

Kentucky) Fact 2: SS# issued in: Kentucky Fact 3: Social

Security #: 403-07-2430

............. +Nora Garvin b: February 09, 1898 d: December 23, 1978 in Boyd

County, Kentucky (buried in Burchett Cemetery, Carter County, Kentucky) m:

December 1918

......... 4 Denny Carlos Burchett b: October 10, 1895 d: February 16, 1980 in

Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Garvin Ridge Cemetery, Carter Co.,

Kentucky) Fact 2: SS# issued in: Kentucky Fact 3: Social

Security #: 403-07-2432

............. +Eva Sammons b: December 17, 1898 d: May 18, 1957 in Jefferson

County, Kentucky (buried in Garvin Ridge Cemetery, Carter Co., Ky) m: October

1915

......... 4 Charles Donny Burchett b: February 16, 1898

............. +Ethel May Garvin b: June 25, 1901 in Prather, Carter County,

Kentucky d: June 08, 1987 in Carter County, Kentucky Father: Johnson

Garvin Mother: Sarah Elizabeth Henderson

......... 4 Anna May Burchett b: March 17, 1900 d: August 08, 1975 in Fayette

County, Kentucky

............. +Drew T. McDaniel b: March 07, 1896 d: December 07, 1968 in

Fayette County, Kentucky

......... 4 Elizabeth Myrtle Burchett b: June 17, 1902

............. +Denny Webb b: July 25, 1902 d: July 04, 1965 in Carter County,

Kentucky m: August 16, 1924

......... 4 Ella Gladys Burchett b: March 04, 1904 d: October 1986 in Carter

County, Kentucky

............. +Clyde Psimer b: November 18, 1903 d: January 04, 1990 in Greenup

County, Kentucky m: November 01, 1924

......... 4 Wilford Paul Burchett b: August 30, 1906 d: January 10, 1998 in

Carter County, Kentucky (buried in Baker Cemetary, Carter County, Kentucky)

............. +Ola Baker b: April 09, 1913 d: November 10, 1994 in Carter

County, Kentucky (buried in Baker Cemetary, Carter County, Kentucky) m: June

14, 1929 Father: Nathan Baker Mother: Bertha Qualls

......... 4 Mary Goldie Burchett b: June 26, 1909

............. +Ercel Baker b: August 28, 1908 d: January 02, 1996 in Carter

County, Kentucky m: October 20, 1928

......... 4 Molly McCleese Burchett b: January 07, 1912 d: May 15, 1973 in

Rowan County, Kentucky

............. +Chester B Stanley b: February 24, 1914 d: March 22, 1988 in Boyd

County, Kentucky m: July 19, 1935

......... 4 Richard Hansel Burchett b: June 02, 1914 d: May 20,

1976 Fact 2: SS# issued in: Kentucky Fact 3: Social Security

#: 402-18-9310

............. +Violet Graves m: Bef. 1931

......... *2nd Wife of Richard Hansel Burchett:

............. +Audrey Onley m: December 07, 1932

......... 4 Retha Margaret Burchett b: October 14, 1917

............. +James Royce Liles b: March 18, 1917 d: February 06, 1965 in

Boone County, Kentucky

..... 3 James Frank (Doc) Burchett b: August 01, 1876 in Carter County,

Kentucky d: January 30, 1937 in (buried in Bethel Cemetery, Carter County,

Kentucky)

......... +Chlora May Fultz

..... 3 John E. Burchett b: June 07, 1879 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

November 1910

......... +Virgie Fultz b: April 11, 1884 d: March 22, 1904

..... *2nd Wife of John E. Burchett:

......... +Marybell Fultz b: 1888 d: April 1928

..... 3 Luke P. Burchett b: February 09, 1881 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

September 04, 1947 in Carter County, Kentucky

......... +Hattie Jessie b: September 06, 1884 d: July 26, 1945 in Carter

County, Kentucky

..... 3 Mary Burchett b: March 25, 1884 d: March 10, 1964

......... +Charles W. Stallard b: January 18, 1891 d: January 07, 1945

..... 3 Bertha M. Burchett b: May 1886 in Carter County, Kentucky d: January

18, 1907

......... +Ed Stallard

..... 3 Dennie Sheffer Burchett b: August 20, 1888 in Carter County, Kentucky

d: February 11, 1966 in Greenup County, Kentucky (buried in Bethel Cemetery,

Carter County, Kentucky

......... +Ollie Dean

..... 3 Roland Tucker Burchett b: May 08, 1891 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

November 04, 1956 in Boyd County, Kentucky

......... +Bessie Crawford b: October 29, 1890 d: April 30, 1974 in Rowan

County, Kentucky

..... 3 Bradley W. Burchett b: July 21, 1895 in Carter County, Kentucky d:

February 1985 in Ohio Fact 2: SS# issued in: Ohio Fact 3:

Social Security #: 300-30-3443

......... +Emile Clark b: March 18, 1897 d: May 1975 in Ohio

*2nd Wife of Basil Sheffer Bond:

. +Francis C Unknown m: Aft. 1882

. 2 William H Bond b: Abt. 1884 in Carter County, Kentucky d: April 27, 1955

in Carter County, Kentucky

. 2 Lavina S BondSubject:

KYCARTER-D Digest V98 #148

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KYCARTER-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 148

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#1 Re: Look Ups [BSWithrow@]

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Subject:

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Date:

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From:

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In a message dated 11/11/98 9:41:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, Della-

Volpe@ writes:

>

Sorry, nothing on them.

12/11/1879

Old Newspaper Items (From Ashland Express) On last Friday , Lon Burns, and

others , were on the Virginia side of Big Sandy, all drinking, firing pistols,

etc. Elijah JACKSON was shot in the head.

>From Eastern Ky References

This is the only reference I found to Elijah Jackson.

Betty

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Subject:

Re: Carter County McDavids

Date:

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In a message dated 11/11/98 8:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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>

Ison,Isom, farmer, born 4/25/1829 in (now) Elliott County son of William and

Betty Hamilton Ison from Va. died 4/25/1916

Sammons, Benjamin Franklin, Hitchens farmer,son of William and Catherine

Alexander Sammons. 3/24/1842 Carter County - 9/13/1926.

Sammons, George Washington , Maddix farmer, born 3/13/1849 son of William and

Catherine Alexander Sammons. died 9/13/1925.

Carter County, a pictorical history

Betty

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Subject:

Re: Carter County McDavids

Date:

Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:53:26 EST

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McDavid, Benjamin Franklin, farmer, born 11/5/1853 in Ky, son of Dan and

Elizabeth Sturgill McDavid. Died 11/30/1934.

McDavid, Henry Harrison Beetle farmer, born 9/16/1863 at Dobbins , son od

Daniel and Elizabeth Sturgill McDavid. Died 11/19/1949.

McDavid, David C, County Judge, merchant. born 7/22/1938 son of Hughie and

Rose Oney McDavid

***more on him, if you think he is a relative.

McDavid, James Lafayette. legislator, judge, merchant. born 4/1/1869 son of

Samuel and Elizabeth Eastham McDavid

***more on him also.

McDavid, James Willis (Billy) boilermaker, industrialist. born 1/28/1923 son

of Willie and Nerva Oney McDavid.

**more on him.

McDavid, John C, Ben's Run farmer, born 3/19/1834 son of Samuel and Eliza

Eastham McDavid. died 3/8/1941.

McDavid, J.C. public offical, born 3/19/1857 on Deer Creek, son of Samuel W

and Eliza Eastham McDavid. Died 3/7/1934

McDavid, Samuel W, III born 9/8/1864 son of Samuel and Eliza Eastham McDavid.

died 2/13/1947.

McDavid, William S Willard farmer, born 12/16/1857 son of Dan and Elizabeth

Sturgill McDavid. died 4/8/1930

McDavid, William A born 7/4/1853 son of John and Permelia Armstrong McDavid.

died 9/27/1913

McDavid, Willie E born 2/21/1852 in Carter County, son of Samuel and Eliza

McDavid. died 11/15/1913.

>From Carter County, a pictorical History.

Nothing in BYGONE BYLINES or Eastern Ky References.

Betty

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Subject:

ross

Date:

Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:01:51 -0800 (PST)

From:

eli mac

To:

jtgrace@

John,

The only part of the family that I am familiar with is Rachel,s family

that married John Sanders Jarvis and David Ross that married Sarah

Jane Jarvis. I researched the Jarvis family and knew alot of people

around here that were out of these families. I have them if you want.

Yes I know Roy Greenhill . He is a third cousin to my husband. My

husband grew up around where Roy lives. I have a friend in Mass. that

is out of the John Sanders Jarvis and Rachel Ross family that would

love to correspond with you but is doesn't have internet You would

have to write her. Her phone is 617-293-5403 and

address is Kathy Eastman, 224 Monponsett St. Halifax,Ma.02338. I was

asking about the Rosses for her. Thanks for answering Bette

Subject: Ross and Jarvis Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: eli mac To: jtgrace@

I gave you Gladys and Frank Debord's children, I have their kids kidsif you want. second child of Florence Ross and Eddie Tabor's wasHazelTabor b.7-14-1906 she is died I know where is buried but haven't goneto check dates. She married J.Q.Sammons. No Kids. Third child of Eddieand Florence was Raymond Luther Tabor b.3-30-1908 d.11-7-1996.live inColumbus,Ohio.md.Faith Leona Howell b.? d.1990. Had one child JosephE. Tabor md.Ruth Ann ? They have two kids1.Bryon and Joeleene.4thchildof Eddie and Florence was Estill Hubert Taborb.10-4-1910d.1-14-1963 md.1st Rachel Greenhill b.11-20-1906d.8-23-1977. Md. on 8-7-1931. One child Juanita b. 7-7-1932 md. GeorgeJessee and they had one kid Debbie Jesse md. Jerry Workman and theyhad one kid Michael Workman. Estill md 2nd Bess Janell Jarvisb.5-20-1914-4-26-1988 dau. of A. Millis jarvis and Minnie Flannery,Millis is son of John Sanders Jarvis and Rachel Ross. Mixed up. TheyHad one child Anna Ruth Tabor 9-5-1953. md. 1st Danny Ray carroll hadSherri Lynn 8-21-1968 she md. Charles Kissick. Anna Ruth 2ndmd.Donald Richie Hunt 4-24-1949 Two childen 1.Anna Richelleb.7-26-1975 2. Andrea Beth b.6-22-1978. 5th child of Eddie & florenceEdith Tabor b.3-28-1913 md. Woodrow Mayes they had one kid Jim Mayes.6th kid of Eddie, Kenneth Tabor b.1915/6 md. Dorothy Bond Two kidsJoyce and Joan. 7th kid of Eddie, Doris Jewell Tabor b.9-5-1917d.-5-22-1994.md. John William Fargo b.1-16-1916-d,12-23-1994. Twochildren 1.James Allen Tabor md.12-31-1956 to Patricia BeatriceJarvis.They had one kid, Nancy Ann Tabor b.7-8-1957. 2. Anthony L.Fargo. 8th childof eddie. Aline Tabor b.12-14-1919 md.Tom Mitchell.they had one kid tommy Mitchell. 9th child of Eddie. Paul Tabor9-26-1923 md. Ruth ? live in Florida. Will do Rachel Ross later Youshould have all 9 of Sarah and David Ross. I have Their other kidsfamilies too. Will send them too. Bette Greenhill

Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:02:47 -0800 (PST) From: eli mac To: "John W. Grace"

Hello I'm back.Checked my mail saw your message. 1870 Census lidt John

Ross age 50, Nancy age 50 Elizabeth 24,Austin age22, Rachel 17, David15, Jacob 13, Alice age 11- She is I believe your Nancy A. that is inyour letter, Amanda 7, Also have written in my records that Sarah is

listed in1870 Cen. being age 11. Sarah and David Ross's kidsFlorence's kids I gave you. Here is Gladys Tabor's kids families. Eualmd. Nora Skaggs b.12-28-1925, They live on Frank and Gladys old homeplace and their fam. cem. is ther Nora gave me info on Frank andGladys fam. Eual had 6 kids 1. Phyllis 3-29-1947 md. Ronald Gregorythey had 4 kids a.Keith b.6-16-1967 b.Steven 8-10-1968 c.Brian7-20-1978 d.Rachel 2-28-1978. 2. Gary Debord b. 12-26-1848 d.5-31-1951Debord Cem. 3.Sherry 10-11-1951 md. Gary Gregory they had 4 kids.a.Michael 2-26-1971 b.Kari 8-2-1974 c. Laura 7-13-1978 d. Lisa7-13-1978 twin to c. 4.Rita md.Tom Green, had 3 children a.Matthew12-30-1970, b.Gena 12-1-1971 c.Anna 8-22-1973, Rita md.2nd HenryTharp. 5.Martin 2-1-1958 md.Jami Everson had 4 kids a.Kevin 7-25-1978b.Kendall 10-31-1980,c.Gary 2-21-1982 d.Rebecca 10-1-1983. 6.Lorene7-15-1959 md. Daniel Thompson had 3 kids a.David 7-31-19799 b.CrissieThompson 10-5-1981 c.Amy 4-2-1985. Gladys dau. Virginia 7-23-1928md.Wilford Pluckett had 1 kid Beth Ann md. Greg Twiss no kids, Gladysdau. Bettie 10-29-1926 md. Arthur Lawless 1 kid Terry md. Brad Wilson2 kids Brandi and Cari. I'll start on Billie's family next time. Idon't have a Martha or the other John. I've not research the Rosses asa whole family because we are only related by them marrying into theJarvis. Jarvis's married into and out of the Greenhill's I did thegen. on Greenhill and I don't know how else they would be related butthough the Jarvises. I'll Check my records to make sure.

I have some marriage records from Fleming co. I'll send you. MathiasJarvis was Sarah and John Sanders Jarvis father and their mother wasMary Elizabeth Jordon---"John W. Grace" wrote:

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from: ROSS 1786 - 1865 BIRTH: 1786, VA DEATH: 1865, Bath CO, KY

Family 1 : Jeremiah "Uncle Jerry" HUNT

MARRIAGE: Oct 1805, Fleming CO, KY

1. Elizabeth HUNT

2. Nancy HUNT

3.+Reuben HUNT

4. Isaac HUNT

5. Hester HUNT

6. John R. HUNT

7. Louis HUNT

8.+Denton HUNT

9. Eliza HUNT

10. Berryman HUNT

11. Freeland "Freed" HUNT

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Would you beleive I typed this last night & never could get it sentthought I had it saved but guess not . I've got about 80 typed writtenpages of allof the Jarvises around here. I'm checking dates again. You

got Mathias's dates backward. mathias's wife was Mary Elizabeth Jordonb.10-21-1820 d.12-18-1906 Carter Co.They are buried way up on a hill in the woods, it is so grown up thatthe only time you can get there is in late fall or early Spring beforethings bud. My husband & I when up there acouple of years ago. Thereare only two graves there. I have pictures of them if I can find.Mathias had 12 kids. #1 William E.Jarvis 7-1-1842 to 6-6-1924 onTombst. md.1=23=2861 to Mary E.Scott 12-6-1844 to 5-17-1829 TS. He had11 kids. #2.James S. Jarvis b.11-25-1845 to5-5-1936 TS. md. 11-29-1866to sarah Ellen Scott 10-10-1849 to 4-11-1931 on TS. sister to #1 wife.Had 6 kids. #3 Flora A. Jarvis 1847 to 7-20-1854 vital st. died from acold. #4 Catherine A. Jarvis 6-2-1848 to4-24-1897. TS. md. WilliamHenry Armstrong b.3-19-1842 had 4 kids. #5 Belle #6 Mary L. jarvisb.1851 md. 9-26-1872 Johnson Scott, brother to #1 wifes. 3 kids 7.henry F. 12-14-1856 Vit st. Listed on 1870 cen. age 13. #8 Sarah Janeand David Ross #9 John Sanders Jarvis and Rachel Ross will send latertheir family that I have. #10 fleming L. Jarvis b. 12-14-1854to1-16-1938 TS. md. 10-23-1876 to Rebecca Phillips 11-19-1858 to7-28-1934 TS. This is my husb. great gr.father. His dau. Grace md.George Greenhill. The farm that Flem lived on we own it. My son livesthere. Flem had 7 kids. #11 Nancy Jane Jarvis 1881-1950 TS. md. OliverMennis Royster 1871-9-15-1936 TS. Now look how old Mathias and hiswife was ,I beleive maybe Mary was not her mother, Her gr.dau. told methis and she was positiventhat she was Mathias dau. but didn't know

his wife name. I'm going to send this, last night I lost all of thiswill write about dates and those people you mentionedBette

About dates. Wanda and Jonda were born March 16, 1945 according toschool records. Rachel Jarvis - we are both wrong on a copy of theCem. where she is buried it says Born 10-18-1853. Dates on John S.Jarvis is 10-24-1849-1-29-1935. Florence Ross- on her Tombst. it is11-8-1881-2-11-1963. Vandilla jarvis buried in same Cem. as John S. &Rachel Jarvis- on Stone it says12-15-1874-8-5-1958. About the old Rossplace yes I knew it was up there it is not far from Flem's place backthough the woods and to the right. I have been told that a young Rossgirl is buried back i n the woods there in a above ground tomb. Idon't know for sure. Mrs. Bebord you are talking about is Mary wifeto Billie Debord that lives on oass Roy Greenhill.Yes about Mathias Isent you his family . Mathias father was Solomon Jarvis b about 1800md. Catherine Chrisman in Fleming Co. Ky. on9-28-1817. His licensesays John is his father but which John? James S. Jarvis is on otherletter. Ruth Jarvis md. Raymond Moore, She is a dau. toNipp Jarvis andElizabeth Greenhill Nipp is son of Wm.and Mary Scott Jarvis #1 Nipphas his own cem. There a lot of Jarvisa Cem.s We have a Jarvis Cem. Onour farm too. Catherine Jarvis is Mathias dau. #4.Nannie Jarvis md.Della Dehart if dau. to James Jarvis md. Mary Ann Wilburn. James isSolomon's son. he had 8 kids Ella Blevins md. 1st Reece Jarvis had 7kids and then she md. the Dehart Roy Dehart that md. Willie Ann "Betty" Dehart is Nipp Jarvis son. Reece is Flem Jarvis son My husband'sgr.grand father . Flem's dau. Grace md. George Greenhill,who is myhusbands grandparents. Esta Jarvis is Reece and Ella Blevins Jarvis

dau. I hope this makes sense. If it doesn't let me know.Bette

I have had me computer for a week now and I got my printer hooked upyesterday so now I'm going to get a scanner maybe we can trade somepictures. Now back to Billie Debord family. He md. Mary Easterlingb.9-6-1930 4 kids. Billie got killed logging on my husband Father farmwhich was Flem Jarvis. Tree fell on him they went to tell his fatherwhich is on the same road and they heard a gunshot his father

committed suicide the same day. Bill's kids are 1. alice 12-18-1951sch rec. md. Dallas King b.6-4-1952, they have 8 kids. 2. Linda10-20-1953 md.3-9-1974 to Talmadge Reynolds 6-19-1952. they have 2kids Leslie Ray Reynolds 6-1-1976 md. Robin O'Bryan. Amy Reynolds md.? Bowling they have one son. 3. Kathy 9-14-1963 md. John Dailey4-17-1962 had 2 kids Heather and Melissa. 4. Donna Debord 5-13-1965Mary was pregnant with her when Bill got killed. md. Mark Messer Div.They 3 kids Rebecca, Sarah, and Mark Jr. Back to Gladys kids. #5 bobbyLee 5-9-1942 md. Sabra Rose 5-9-1942 had 4 kids. Angela b.d. 5-22-1970T.S. IN Debord Cem. ,David, Danny, and Donna. #6 Roger 9-26-1948 md.Velda Duncan 2 kids tommy and Donnie. roger remarried Marla ? #7Shirlene"Shirley" 4-15-1939 md. Lyle Gordan 1 kid Greg. #8 Vivian9-23-1934 md. Kenneth Rice 2 kids Pam and Scott.#9 Wanda Sue 3-16-1945md. Oscar Whitt 3 kids Connie ,mark, and Jeff. Wanda remd. MarkTurkson #10 Jonda 3-16-1945 md. Lonnie Whitt brother to Oscar Whitt Nokids that is all of Gladys kids Will send this before I get cut offagain 3 times todat and last night twice.

John Sanders Jarvis and Rachel Ross

Carter co. Sch. Recs. John S. Jarvis dated 5-1-1895list Milian 18, Ettie 17, Arthur 12, Clara 11, Ollie 8. John S. b.

10-24-1849 d. 1-29-1935 on T.S. Rachel Ross b. 10-18-1853 d.9-25-1885T.S. 6 children #1 Vandilla b.12-15-1874 d. 8-5-1958 T.S. Somewheres Isaw it as 12-5-`1874 md. 6-4-1896 Charles Estill Whitt 9-6-1873d.5-31-1939 T.S. 11 kids A. Stella Whitt b. 4-10-1897 d. 2-21-1961T.S. md. 11-28-1914 Willie Gee b.7-2-1891 d. 8-9-1966 T.S. had 8 kids:Clayton Edward Gee b.4-2-1917, Charles Raymond Gee b. 3-13-1919,James Carl "Goat" Gee b. 8-18-1922 d.1-8-1998 md. 1st Betty McCoy 1son C.C. Gee 2nd Md. Maggie Caudill. no kids she had 2 by her 1stmarriage, she was md. to Betty McCoy's brother. Geraldine Gee 3-2-1925md Hubert Tackett 1 kid Robert Allen b.1953 md. Karen Barnhill 1 kidChad Alan b.1985, Billy Gee b. 9-23-1931, Alice Joy Gee b.11-27-1936md. John Buckler, Had 3 daus., Teddy Joyce [twin to Alice Joy] Wasdeaf, md. Betty Lou Kalph b.12-20-1945 I think she was also deaf, 3kids Jacquline Lisa b.2-4-1967, Terrince Todd b.4-2-1969, and BevelyEdithel b. 9-22-1970. Will send won't press my luck. Bette

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Subject: [Fwd: [DENTON-L] Benjamin DENTON/KY/1800] Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:25:18 -0500 From: Joyce Pinson

CatCanDu, Inc. To:jtgrace@

Know you had a post on Fleming Co page...didn't know whether you were on Denton list. Thought this might be of interest.

Subject: [DENTON-L] Benjamin DENTON/KY/1800 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:45:06 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: DENTON-L@

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:53:43 -0500 From: "Bette J. S. Oden" Reply-To: DENTON-L@ To: DENTON-L@

I have a Benjamin DENTON b: about 1778 in Washington Co., TN. He was killed by indians in KY in 1803. He was the son of James DENTON and Elizabeth (HARPER or OVERALL). He married Deborah HUNT, (daughter of John Tipton HUNT and Mary OVERALL) and they had a son John Hunt DENTON b:1803 d: about 1882 Randolph Co., IL. Deborah (HUNT) DENTON then married Isaac HUTSON in 1803. They were both killed by indians in 1812 at Fort Harrison, IL. Benjamin DENTON's brother Isaac was killed at the same time. This information was pass to me and I've not varified it.

I also have a John Wesley Denton b: 1838 IN. He was the grandson of Joseph DENTON and Dradenna HUNT. John married Elvira HUNT. I have a Wesley (Westley) DENTON grandson of James DENTON and Elizabeth. He was born 1798 in TN, the son of Abraham. He married Margaret ROSS 23 Nov 1818 in Fleming Co., KY I hope this helps. This is my line. James and Elizabeth's daughter Martha md William VANLANDINGHAM. My question is was Elizabeth's last name HARPER or OVERALL? Does anyone have any proff?? Bette Oden

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Subject: tabor Paynter Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:20:11 -0500 From: "janice whitt" To:

Ralston Hendricks Paynter is the father of Harry Paynter who married Dale Ross. Edward A Tabor's parents James and Sarah E. Tabor. James Tabor's parents are James and Sarah Matilda Brown Tabor. Stephen L Tabor Mary Elizabeth Ross 1-5-1871 at John Ross house.Stephen parents James and Sarah Matilda Brown Tabor.Have more send later Do you have any information on this family.

Ther is also Amanda Harvey Young is also connected to the paynter's. e-mail meme02@

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Sarah M. Johnson

Posted by John E. Donohew on Fri, 22 Jan 1999, in response to

Johnson, posted by Sharon Dick on Mon, 30 Nov 1998

Surnames: Johnson, Jones

I have a Sarah M. Johnson age 8 in 1860 Carter Co. census. She was the youngest child of Phillip

Johnson b. 1810 TN and Thursey Jones b, 1810 TN. Sarah is the sister of my mother's grandfather

Elijah Johnson. If this is the Sarah Johnson you are looking for I can provide other information.

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Sarah M. Johnson

Posted by John E. Donohew on Fri, 22 Jan 1999, in response to

Johnson, posted by Sharon Dick on Mon, 30 Nov 1998

Surnames: Johnson, Jones

I have a Sarah M. Johnson age 8 in 1860 Carter Co. census. She was the youngest child of Phillip

Johnson b. 1810 TN and Thursey Jones b, 1810 TN. Sarah is the sister of my mother's grandfather

Elijah Johnson. If this is the Sarah Johnson you are looking for I can provide other information.

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Husband: Jeremiah Vanlandingham (V545)

b. at:

Married: at:

Died: at:

Father:

Mother:

Other Spouses:

Wife: Nancy Denton (D535)

b. 1804 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Died: at:

Father:Abraham Denton

Mother:Sarah Hunt

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Posted by Larry L. Zornes on Tue, 30 Jun 1998, in response to

ZORNES, posted by Billie Daft on Mon, 25 May 1998

Surnames:

Billie, I've just begun to delve into our family and would love share info with you about Andrew

ZORNES. My dad is Elmer F. ZORNES b. 1910 in Olive Hill, KY to Millard Lacey ZORNES b. 1886

and Hattie Pearl CLINE. Millard Lacey ZORNES was the son of Roze Anderson ZORNES b.1860

and his father was Phillip ZORNES b. 1840. After Phillip, I seem to lose a generation between him and

Andrew ZORNES d.1844 (buried in Walnut Grove Cem).Any help would be appreciated. By the way

I'm not the Larry Zornes listed in your query, but I am obtaining a great deal of info on my family.

Thanks and have a great day!

LLZ

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ROSS CEMETERY, CARTER COUNTY, KENTUCKY

Submitted by Garrett and Sherry Lowe

Directions: In Olive Hill, go west past the red light at the Olive Hill Pharmacy to the next block. The

road that dead-ends there into U.S. 60 is Rt. 986 (called Ben's Run or Airport Rd). The next block is a

four-way stop. Continue straight ahead across what was a railroad crossing and then the bridge over

Tygart and keep to your left. Go 3.1 miles up this road, then turn right onto a small, one-lane gravel road

leading up the hill. Go .3 miles to the top of the hill. The cemetery is surrounded by a chain-link fence.

Condition/Comments: Well maintained.

ROSS CHAPEL CEMETERY, CARTER COUNTY,

KENTUCKY

Submitted by Garrett and Sherry Lowe

Directions: To reach the Ross Chapel Cemetery, go west past the Red Light at the Olive Hill Pharmacy

to the next block. The road that dead ends there into U. S. 60 is numbered 986. This is the Ben's Run

Road (Oldtimers call it that) or Airport Road. The next block is a four-way stop. Continue straight

ahead across what was a railroad crossing and then the bridge over Tygart and keep to your left. You

will travel 3.6 miles up this road before you turn right onto a small, one-lane gravel road leading up the

hill. At the top of this hill the road dead ends into the entrance to the cemetery with a chain link fence

around it.

Condition/Comments: Well maintained

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Subject: Re: Nancy Kinnaman Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:52:46 -0600 From: "D Underwood" To:

John, My Nancy Kinnaman was born about 1820 and was the dau of Phillip andWinfrey (Hancock) Kinnaman who were married in Green Co, TN. I suspect that she was born there also and then some of the family moved up to IN andIL. I don't have anything recorded as to her marriage. She is not adirect ancestor and I just have not persued her record. Let me know if shesounds like the same Nancy Kinnaman as you're researching. Dale

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Re. Dempset French Ross

William FRENCH

BORN: 1776, North Carolina

DIED: FEB 1848, Caldwell Co., KY

BURIED: ,

MARRIED: Jane ROSS, ,

CHILDREN:

1.Joseph William FRENCH

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Re: John Nelson Ross Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:03:20 -0800 (PST) From: eli mac To: "John W. Grace"

How are you doing on your research? I have some more info for you onthe DeHarts, alot of names but no dates but can get them or most ofthem as soon as I have time to look them up. I have been working onanother line of my husband's family, the Boggs family and they come inon the Sparks. I have to check on some of the info that was given meand then I send it to you. Here is some of it. John S. DeHart md.Minnie Brower, they had 2 kids[1] Margaret DeHart [2]Bomar DeHart. Sarah F. DeHart b.1868 d.1938 md. a Sparks, they had no children.Charles F. DeHart md 1st Willie Ann James. They 2 children [1] VernerDeHart md. Addie Sparks. They had 4 kids [1.]Ernest DeHart md. EzellFlannery, one son Phillip DeHart md. Susan ? Phillip and Susan had 2children 1. Samanatha and David. verner's 2nd child was Chester DeHartmd. Alice Sue Barker They had one son Greg DeHart md. Debbie Back, onedau. Amy DeHart. Verner's 3rd child Bernice DeHart md. 1stChester"Hoover" Johnson 0ne child Betty Jo Johnson md.1st BillNichols, one son Stephen Nichols md. Chrystal Dehart 3 children Steve,Karla, and Sarah Nichols. Betty Jo md. 2nd Phillip David one childKelly Jo Davis md. Jeff Lucus, one child, John Lucus. Bernice md. 2nda Huntsman, no children. Verner's 4th child was Marie DeHart md. EarlMcDowell.2 kids Melvin McDowell md. Faye Burton 2 kids;1. JeffMcDowell md. Laura Morrison and 2. Karla McDowell md. Joey Back. willsend more. Bette

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:57:37 -0800 (PST) From: eli mac To: "John W. Grace"

Hello, I sent some of your things you sent to me to a lady in Mass.that is related to John Sanders Jarvis and Rachael Ross. She willprobably write you. Addie Sparks was Verner DeHart's only wife. Iva D.Greenhill was Verner's whole sister. He had alot of half sisters andbrothers. Iva was a DeHart md. John Greenhill. I knew her well beforeshe died and her family. Her husband was I think 3rd cousins to myhusband. Verner's son gave me the info I sent. Here is some more Ididn't send. Charles F. DeHart md. 2nd Addie Everman b.3-22-1884 d.7-16-1918. Children [1] Letha DeHart b.3-10-1910 d.3-20-1919. [2] JayDeHart b.8-20-1908 d. 6-24-1973 md. Mary Coleman, one dau. RebeccaDeHart md. Richard Henderson. [3]Douglas C. DeHart b.1906 d.1947 md.Edie Stone [4] Grace DeHart 1st md. Gene Paysnter 2nd md. RichardSchmalz [5] Wylie DeHart md. Mildred Caine 6 kids Rosemary, Cloteen,Jay, Jerry, Connie, and Bill. [6]Arlie DeHart md. Bill Ramey. Will

finish later.

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:02:51 -0800 (PST) From: eli mac To: "John W. Grace"

I had to stop because my husband needed the phone. Here is the rest ofthe DeHarts. 7th child of Charles F. DeHart and 2nd wife Addie Evermanwas Minnie DeHart md. Wayne Kelly childrens were Olena, Mary Addie,Bomar, Jack, Sue, and ?. Then Charles F. Md. 3rd wife mart HolbrookBoggs. Children were[1] Ile DeHart md. Barbara DeHart, 3 kids Steve,Kathy, and Deloris DeHart. [2] Maggie DeHart md. Lee Rodgers no kids.Ile and Maggie were twins. [3] Pearl DeHart md. Frank Sammons had 3boys, Gary, Bill, and Ricky DeHart. [4]Earl DeHart, he was a twin toPearl. Wm. H. DeHart b.1879 d.1967 md. 1st Nora J. Wilburn b.1879 d.1918children [1]Josie DeHart md. R.D. Lowe. [2]Olive DeHart md. LeonardGearheart.Their family is in the Greenhill Book under LillianCarpenter and Francis Marion Gearheart. I have since added alot tothis family. Look under 5th child Susan Greenhill.[3] Mae Dehart md.Milton Kiser one son R.D. Kiser. Wm. H. DeHart md. 2nd Ella BlevinsJarvis b.1-19-1884 d.9-14-1961. Ella was md. to Reece Jarvis 1st.Their family is in the Jarvis Book on page 40, I sent you. Iva D.DeHart Greenhill and her husband John Greenhill's family is in theGreenhill Book I sent you, it is the last family in the book. I do not know any people in Fleming Co. I couldn't get dates on mostof these people but will look when I go someplace. Iva Greenhill'sfamily and mine were good friends. Her son John D. Greenhill wrote theGreenhill book with my niece and me. Arnold was principal and coached3 of my kids all though elementary to 8th grade. I taught at thisschool for 7 yrs. We are related Iva's husband was 3rd cousins to myhusband. When you get it together I'd like to have a copy. Talk to youlater Bette

Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:37:14 -0800 (PST)

From: "eli mac" |Subject: Re: Our Ross genealogy To: "John Grace"

Hi John, How hard you have been working. It all sounds great.Nice to hear from you. I have been working on mymother's line. I started a couple of months ago towork on the Chrisman family, Catherine Chrisman md.Solomon Jarvis. I have made alot of progress but itall goes slow. I know how you feel when you find onetiny clue. It's better than the Easter Bunny or SantaClaus coming. Ha! I would love to have copies of thepictures. If you can scan, I have a good printer thatI can print them. I have the 1850 Carter Co. Census. Ilooked in it and saw what you were talking about theVanlandinghams changing their name. It all makessense.Now figure this when I was looking at thecensus. I found your Joshua Flanegan #289. Ok Nowliving at #357 is george James age 53, Sarah age 34,Phelona age 15, Emily age 12, Elizabeth age 10, Henryage 8, Ephraim age 3, Margaret age 1 and living withthem is a Volantine Flanegan age 20 male Laborer b.KY.This must be Joshua and Betsey's son. Do you think.I looked in the 1870 Carter Co. Census and there areno Vanlandinghams or Flanegan. I have the 1860'sordered. Will look in it. Got to run. Anything you arewilling to share I would love to have. Thanks, Bette

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Subject: Campbell, Zornes

Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:57:50 -0500

From: "Eddie L. Shearer"

To:

John ,

I saw your posting on the Carter CO web site and thought I would respond since I am descended thru Thomas

Jefferson's brother Jesse Jr. Do you have anything on their parents or grandparents. I have some info I will

share if you like.

Thanks for you time

Eddie Shearer

eshearer@zoo

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:26:43 -0500

From:

"janice whitt"

To:

John, sorry I have not got back to you sooner I am still trying

to put the piece together sometimes it gets very confusing .

I do know the Geneva M. that was married to Balsar Maddix

Burnett is Geneva Tabor her father's name is Franklin Pierce

Tabor, mother is Mary Elizabeth Paynter Tabor. My great

grand parents. Mary Elizabeth was a sister to Ralston

Hendricks Paynter the father of Harry Paynter.

You have Teressa Ann Tabor listed as one on Stephen and

Mary Ross Tabor's daughter she was Stephen Tabor's sister.

Do you know when Mary Ross died . Stephen was married

twice his second wife's name was Lottie ? . Stephen had

a total of eleven children by both his wife's.

I found this article in a book with newspaper clippings in it at the

Boyd Co. library it was interesting:

Thursday April 13, 1882 Eastern Ky. Newspaper

Elliott Co.(Rossville) Stephen L Tabor , of Big Sinking in Elliott Co.

about 5 miles from Olive Hill, while clearing a new ground this

spring, found some 50 graves, some about 2 feet up to 7 feet long.

They were not over 2 feet deep and walled with flat sandstone

rocks, set edgewise with headstones. Some had trees 3 feet

thick overhanging them, but had no bones in them.

Sometimes just finding names gets boring I like something

interesting to read sometimes. I wish I could find other

interesting stories about the family.

As soon as I find out anything else I'll let you know and you

do the same .

Best Wishes

Janice

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Subject: Re: [KYBATH-L] ROSS, DENTON, VANLANDINGHAM, KINAMON

Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:00:49 EST

From: HayBarber@

To: jtgrace@

Hi John,

Catching up after relocating to Ohio. Be happy to share any info. in my files.

Harley

Descendants of ELANOR / ELIZABETH DENTON

1 ELANOR / ELIZABETH DENTON 1803 - b: Bet. 1803 - 1804 in KY/TN

. +JAMES VANLANDINGHAM

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Descendants of MARTHA VANLANDINGHAM

1 MARTHA VANLANDINGHAM 1823 - b: 1823

. +WILLIAM RAWLINGS 1821 - b: 1821

... 2 JEREMIAH RAWLINGS 1843 - b: 1843

... 2 JAMES P. RAWLINGS 1846 - b: 1846

... 2 AARON RAWLINGS 1849 - b: 1849

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Descendants of SARAH VANLANDINGHAM

1 SARAH VANLANDINGHAM 1818 - 1899 b: March 11, 1818 d: April 07, 1899 in

Gravestone @ Edens Chapel, Fleming Co., KY

. +PRESSLEY RAWLINGS 1813 - 1881 b: February 10, 1813 d: October 18, 1881 in

Gravestone @ Edens Chapel, Fleming Co., KY

... 2 JAMES RAWLINGS 1841 - b: 1841

... 2 MARY JANE RAWLINGS 1844 - b: 1844

... 2 WILLIAM RAWLINGS 1846 - 1936 b: January 04, 1846 d: February 27, 1936

....... +MAHALA GREEN KEERANS 1855 - 1925 b: October 04, 1855 d: August 12,

1925

........ 3 MARY EMERINE RAWLINGS 1875 - 1945 b: July 20, 1875 d: 1945

............ +ROBERT HAWKINS

........ 3 MARTHA ABIGAIL RAWLINGS 1878 - 1923 b: April 04, 1878 in Colfax,

Fleming Co., KY. d: January 22, 1923 in Grange City, Fleming Co.,KY

............ +LEWIS ALEXANDER MCROBERTS

........ 3 JAMES THOMAS RAWLINGS 1880 - 1965 b: September 02, 1880 d: 1965

in Bur. Frankfort,Ky.

............ +ROSE E. ALEXANDER

........ *2nd Wife of JAMES THOMAS RAWLINGS:

............ +JOSIE PEARL BARBER 1880 - 1938 b: January 14, 1880 in Bath

Co. d: September 16, 1938 in Bath Co. Grange City,KY Fleming Co.

Fairview Cem.

........ 3 SALLIE VINA RAWLINGS 1882 - 1960 b: 1882 d: 1960

............ +WILLIAM THOMAS HURST 1884 - 1970 b: 1884 d: 1970

... 2 CHARLES MIDDLETON RAWLINGS 1849 - 1936 b: 1849 d: November 1936

....... +ELMIRA LACY KISSICK 1851 - 1908 b: 1851 d: 1908

........ 3 WILLIAM PRESSLEY RAWLINGS 1869 - 1919 b: 1869 d: 1919

............ +LONI WRIGHT - 1901 d: 1901

........ *2nd Wife of WILLIAM PRESSLEY RAWLINGS:

............ +IDA MILLARD HAWKINS 1890 - 1919 b: 1890 d: 1919

........ 3 MARTIN TAYLOR(MART) RAWLINGS 1875 - 1937 b: 1875 d: 1937

............ +LOUISE McFARLAND

........ *2nd Wife of MARTIN TAYLOR(MART) RAWLINGS:

............ +ELLA HEDDINGS ROUTT

........ 3 SARAH H. RAWLINGS 1875 - b: 1875

........ 3 LUTHER THOMAS RAWLINGS 1876 - 1973 b: 1876 d: 1973

............ +NINA BELLE MEYERS 1887 - 1946 b: 1887 d: 1946

........ 3 GEORGE LEWIS RAWLINGS 1880 - 1973 b: 1880 d: 1973

............ +EDNA MARVIN SORRELL 1892 - 1987 b: 1892 d: 1987

........ 3 ALLEN MASON (MASE) RAWLINGS 1882 - 1938 b: 1882 d: 1938

............ +MARTHA JANE (MATTIE) MEYERS 1890 - 1982 b: 1890 d: 1982

........ 3 LAURA JAMES RAWLINGS 1885 - 1982 b: 1885 d: 1982

............ +RICHARD LYONS 1881 - 1954 b: 1881 d: 1954

........ 3 BOONE RAWLINGS 1892 - 1955 b: 1892 d: 1955

............ +DORA DEAN MANLEY 1895 - 1991 b: 1895 d: 1991

........ 3 NELLIE RAWLINGS 1894 - 1975 b: 1894 d: 1975

............ +W. A. (BERT) RAZOR 1892 - 1937 b: 1892 d: 1937

... 2 EMILY RAWLINGS 1850 - 1857 b: 1850 d: March 1857 in Fleming Co., KY

Series 3 vol35

... 2 MARTHA RAWLINGS 1855 - b: 1855

... 2 THOMAS FRANCIS RAWLINGS 1858 - b: May 13, 1858

....... +QLLIE A. HURST

... *2nd Wife of THOMAS FRANCIS RAWLINGS:

....... +MARY F. WALTON

Have more generations in this line if interested.

******************

Descendants of WILLIAM VANLANDINGHAM

1 WILLIAM VANLANDINGHAM

. +MARTHA DENTON 1783 - 1875 b: February 24, 1783 in East TN d: October 14,

1875 in Huntsville,IN

***************

I have a boatload of Denton's if you want them all let me know.

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Subject: Fitzpatrick family

Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 12:43:10 -0500

From: ehilkert@ (david e hilkert)

To: jtgrace@

Dear John,

I saw your name posted on the Jackson Co. GENCAP page regarding the

Fitzpatrick family. My wife is descended from Phillip Fitzpatrick and

Nancy Well, both of Jackson County (and apparently earlier Pike County),

OH. Phillip and Nancy were married on 28 August 1828 in Columbiana Co.,

OH, and later had at least seven children (my wife is descended from

Rebecca, who married Levi Palmer).

I am wondering if you are descended from this branch and if you have

further information on Phillip and his origins. Any information you have

would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Best wishes for a Merry Christmas,

Dave Hilkert

ehilkert@

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Subject: Re: KISER

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:16:46 -0600

From: "Carlis B. Wilson"

To: Harvey and Jenny Kiser

CC: "Ann Hart Stewart (Kiser Family)" ,

Alona Kiser Bailey ,

"Artty Hardymon (Kiser Family)" ,

"Curtis Brown (Kiser Family)" ,

"Gail Brown (Skeens-Kiser)" ,

"John Grace (Kiser Family)" ,

John Parrott , John Wallace ,

"Judy Dye Ring (Kisers)" ,

Judy Skeen , Julie Voyles ,

"Larry Price (Kiser Family)" ,

Sue and Randall Holbrooks Kiser Family ,

"Steve Staruch (Kiser Family)" ,

"Shandra Oliver (Kisers Family)" ,

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Subject: Research Tip

Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:42:40 -0400

From: Garrett and Sherry Lowe

To: KYCARTER-L@

As a paralegal, I spend many hours each week in the Courthouse. Whenever a genealogist comes wandering in, I usually try to help point them in the right direction. One document that can be especially helpful to any genealogist is an Affidavit of Descent. Yet, very few researchers seem to know anything about them. If a person owns property and that person dies intestate (without a will), it is normal to file an Affidavit of Descent. This Affidavit is a sworn statement that gives the name of the deceased land owner, the date of death and the names of the heirs of the decedent. Sometimes the Affidavit will also includes ages of the heirs and their addresses. An Affidavit of Descent will be filed and indexed with the deed records under the name of the decedent. Anytime that you locate an Affidavit of Descent, you should also check out the next few recorded deeds. Usually, if the person died without a will, the family doesn't get around to filing the Affidavit of Descent u!

ntil they get ready to dispose of the real estate and some attorney informs them "by the way you need to file the Affidavit first". If this is the case, the deed conveying the real estate of the decedent will not only list the names of the heirs, but also the names of the spouses. Many times if the property has been held for an extended period of time or even allowed to pass through to the next generation, an Affidavit of Descent can give information on multiple generations. So next time you are in the deed room, check the grantor indices for Affidavits of Descent.

One other tip, if you want the staff to help you, be polite! Just this week, a genealogist (at least that's what he claimed to be) came into the Carter Co. deed room and proceeded to tell the deputy clerk that she didn't know her job, and accused her of withholding information. He also cursed the deputy clerk several times. He was trying to convince the deputy clerk, who by the way has worked in the deed room for nearly 16 years, that they had birth and death records. This type of behavior is why people doing legal research and the clerk's staff are usually not to thrilled to see genealogist entering the deed room. Please remember that although you are having the time of your life because you have just found that one link that has eluded you for years, most people in the deed room are trying to earn a living. Try treating the deed room the same way you would treat a library. Also remember that most of the other people in the deed room are probably working, but not for t!

he Clerk. I have actually had people get mad at me because I didn't stop my work and look something up for them. I do try to take time to help anyone that I can and will gladly show you how to look up records, and normally the Carter Co. staff are also willing to help, if they can. Unfortunately, they can't waive a magic wand and produce records that they don't have, regardless of how many time you cuss them.

Good luck with your research.

Sherry

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Subject:

Re: Bygone Bylines

Date:

Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:16:31 EDT

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 9/21/98 1:08:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jtgrace@

writes:

>

2/5/1857

STOLL & ROSS , dealers in dry goods,

groceries,queensware,hats,caps,boots,shoes,hardware,provisions, etc. On Front

Street, opposite the levy in Poage's Building.

10/5/1882

Carter Co. - (Grayson) GM Offill, Harvey A. Offill, MRS. ROSS, James Haines,

Davis O. Madden, George James, Nicholas Felty and Peter Felty and their

families propose emigrating to Dallas and Ellis County, Texas.

8/1/1917

(Catlettsburg) - Atty. JJ Montague drew up a deed conveying valuable property

on North Side from Walker Short & wife to GLADYS ROSS , wife of AJ "Todd"

ROSS, for $4,500.

Thursday, June 4 1903

FRANK ROSS left last night for a business trip to Virginia.

8/23/1883

JOHN D. ROSS and wife conveyed to son, J. TAYLOR ROSS, an undivided fourth of

Sandy Furnace, on Bolts Fork of East Fork, 350 acres and $50.00.

6/28/1883

JOHN A. ROSS, well known in these parts has returned to his residence in

Kansas, Missouri.

7/26/1883

Lawrence Co.... (Rockville) - Polly Perry, sister to JUDGE JD ROSS, died at

his home, July 28, 1883, at an advanced age.

8/2/1883

MRS MARY (POLLY) PERRY died on the 28th, age 80. She was sister to Judge JD

Ross and was buried in the Ross burying ground on the 29th. She was born

8/25/1799.

Thursday Nov 17 1881

MISS NANNIE ROSS, aged about 19 years, came among the people of Morehead some

months ago, seeking household work to support herself. She was a stranger

without relative or friend. Recently she became ill and was taken to the home

of James E. Clarke, whose family showed her care and kindness. She died and

was buried before information could be obtained as to the residence of her

family. It is believed the poor girl came from Wolfe County, Ky.

6/7/1872

Catlettsburg - R. ROSS is pushing the work of filling the courthouse square.

11/22/1883

Ashland - ROBERT ROSS has made improvements on his property on D Street,

between Front and Greenup Avenues.

>From BYGONE BYLINES

Nicholas County marriages 1826-1835

Mrs. Ross to William Taylor 7/27/1826

WILLIAM ROSS to Mary Suddith 8/10/1826

Boyd County

Old , abandoned graveyard (Burns) is located on route 1937, off lower Bear

Creek , near the foot of the hills on the southside of the creek. (source)

Marcia Dowling Mabley, 6/5/1975

JOHN R ROSS d 11/11/1857 age 82 years 10 months and 25 days.

Mary H , wife of JOHN R ROSS , died 7/27/1833 age 55 years, 7 months, 3 days

(nee: Davis)

Here lies the body of THERESA ROSS , d ( says illegible) age 22 years 8 (?)

months.

>From Eastern Ky References

More later

Betty

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Subject:

Re: Bygone Bylines

Date:

Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:14:49 EDT

From:

BSWithrow@

To:

KYCARTER-L@

In a message dated 9/21/98 1:08:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jtgrace@

writes:

>

Nicholas County Marriages

JOHN ROSS to Catherine Shultz 11/27/1827

Commonwealth Suits (Greenup County)

Deposition of L (ewis) ROSS , 11/16/1853, Greenupsburg, says he has been

engaged in the iron business for the last ten or twelve years.

Old Newspaper Items

Died, in this city, july 11, MRS MARY E ROSS, wife of THOMAS A ROSS, daughter

of Capt William C Pendleton, of Westerly, Rhode Island, age 29.

Lawrence County

Stewart Cemetery - route 3 - (sources) Evelyn Jackson and Pat Cantrell

Isaac Fannin 1808-1845 SOPHIAH (ROSS) 1810-1878

Nicholas County Marriages

STEPHEN ROSS to Harriett Donavan 8/4/1829

End of Eastern KY References

1897 Catlettsburg Directory

h - house

bds - boards

ROSS, Harry, cooper,h ss center

Harry, J , cooper, bds 524 Center

Stephen D, h 524 Center

Wm I Jr, county assessor, res Boltsfork

Wm M, painter, bds 430 Court

Ashland

Annette, bds115 19th

Henry, laborer, h 110 12th

James, laborer, h 920 W Greenup av

Robert, laborer, h 115 19th

Robert E, laborer, h 316 E Front av

End

Betty

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Subject: Re: [KYBATH-L] ROSS- PIAT

Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:06:36 -0500 (EST)

From John Vice

To:

John,

I see with great interest this post. I think we have

been in contact before, but I may have overlooked the

name of John Piat Ross. John Ross & Susannah (Susan)

Piat are my ancestry. I have identified a few of their

children, but not all. I descend from John's daughter,

Mary, who married Jeremiah Hunt in 1805. I have data on

John's son, Jacob, & Jacob's descendants.

It would seem that John Nelson Ross may be a grandson of

John & Susannah Piatt Ross. I saw the reply to your

query from the Piatt researcher. It seems she may be

in the right line, also. John & Susannah was from Virginia.

I got most of my data about John & Susannah from John's

Revolutionary War Pension application.

I was curious--Did John Piat Ross & John Nelson Ross die

in Bath Co., Ky. or did they leave the state & live elsewhere?

I know Billie Hunt (of the Bath County Public Library) quite

well. She showed me a package Monday that she received from

you (I didn't see the contents). Billie Hunt is in the same

line of descent from Jeremiah & Mary Ross Hunt as me. She

asked me if I seen your post on the Bath Co. mailing list &

thought like me that there is probably a connection.

Will be glad to exchange data. I think I may have replied

earlier to a e-mail to me from you that I saw no connection,

but I probably overlooked something--that is if you contacted

me earlier.

Closing for now. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Until later,

John Vice

At 08:07 AM 10/25/98 -0800, you wrote:

>Is there anyone researching the PIAT family of Bath County? I have a

>record of a John ROSS who married Susan PIAT. The only date I have is

>the birth of their son, Jacob, Sept. 8, 1792. Jacob died in Randolph

>County, In., June 30, 1880.

>

>I am related to a John Piat ROSS (1840-1893) who married Louisa "Susie"

>OFFILL (1845-1886). John was the son of John Nelson Ross (1818-1890).

>Any ROSS-PIAT info would be much appreciated.

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Subject: 1900 Census for Jackson County

Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:29:44 -0700

From: "Gerry Hubacka"

To:

Hi John,

I recently received the 1900 census books from the Jackson County Chapter

OGS and I've got a couple of Fitzpatrick's for you. I didn't know if you

already had the info or not, sorry to send it again if you do! If you have

any other names you'd like looked up, just let me know!

JACKSON TOWNSHIP

FITZPATRICK, William, born Feb. 1839, 61, widower, Farmer, born in OH,

parents born in OH

Hill, Elsworth, son-in-law, born Sep. 1875, 24, Farmer, born in OH, parents

born in OH

Hulda E., wife, born Oct. 1881, 18, married 1 year, had 1 child, 1 now

living, born in OH, parents born in OH

Fitzpatrick, James, son, born Dec. 1873, 26, Farm Hand, born in OH, parents

born in OH

Elsworth, son, born Sep. 1875, 24, Farm Hand, born in OH, parents born in

OH

Ernest, son, born May 1878, 22, Farm Hand, born in OH, parents born in OH

Hill, Leeoda, granddau., born Aug. 1899, 9/12, born in OH, parents born in

OH

FITZPATRICK, John, born Apr. 1836, 64, widower, Farmer, born in OH, parents

born in OH

? Emma, dau., born Aug. 1865, 33, widower, had 4 children, 4 now living,

born in OH, parents born in OH

Orajane, granddau., born Nov. 1895, 4, born in OH, parents born in OH

Clide, son, born July 1888, 11, born in OH, parents born in OH

FITZPATRICK, Leander, born Apr. 1865, 34, Farmer, born in OH, parents born

in OH

FITZPATRICK, Adolf, born Aug. 1844, 54, Farmer, born in OH, parents born in

OH

Elizabeth, wife, born Dec. 1846, married 36 years, had 9 children, 6 now

living, born in OH, parents born in OH

Robert, son, born Dec. 1869, 30, Farm Hand, born in OH, parents born in OH

Shamen, son, born Jan. 1878, 22, Farm Hand, born in OH, parents born in OH

Catern M., dau., born July 1880, 19, born in OH, parents born in OH

Stela, dau., born July 1883, 16, born in OH, parents born in OH

MILTON TOWNSHIP

FITZPATRICK, Robert, born Dec. 1853, 46, Farmer, born in OH, parents born

in OH

Mary C., wife, born July 1853, ?36, married 14 years, had 3 children, 2

now living, born in OH, parents born Holland, PA

Charles, son, born May 1891, 9, born in OH, parents born in OH

Grace, dau., born May 1891, 9, born in OH, parents born in OH

KESSLER, Conrad, born Feb. 1852, 48, Farmer, born in OH, parents born

Germany, Germany

Ellen, wife, born Aug. 1857, 42, married 24 years, had 9 children, 9 now

living born OH, parents born in OH

Pearlie, son, born Dec. 1876, 23, Farm Labor, born in OH, parents born in

OH

Harley, son, born Mar. 1881, 19, born in OH, parents born in OH

Minnie, dau., born Dec. 1882, 17, born in OH, parents born in OH

Harry, son, born Mar. 1888, 12, born in OH, parents born in OH

Fred, son, born Jan. 1890, 10, born in OH, parents born in OH

Audrey, dau., born Apr. 1892, 8, born in OH, parents born in OH

Ethel, dau., born Apr. 1892, 8, born in OH, parents born in OH

Hazel, dau., born Nov. 1895, 4, born in OH, parents born in OH

Fitzpatrick, Beckie, mother-in-law, born Jan. 1826, 74, widowed, had 6

children, 5 now living, born in OH, parents born in Scotland, Holland

Talk to you later,

Gerry

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Subject: Applegate

Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:38:39 EST

From: "Rachel Applegate"

To: jtgrace@

Here's what I have on the William Applegate family. Sorry I don't have

any information on the Ross side.

1.Lillie W. born 1871 died Mar 29,1908

2.Roberta E. born 1873

3.James T. born Sept 1874 died June 24,1950 married 1894 Ella Mae

Fowler/Towler.

4.Ida born 1876

5.Nelson born Nov 1878 died after 1920 married Apr 12 1900 Minnie

Plummer.

The children of James T. & Ella Mae are:

1.Orville R. born June 1896 died Dec 17,1932 married 1914 Lula Pollitt

2.Chester Walker born June 29,1897 died Mar 1974 married 1918 Viola

Howell,also married Mabel Farrow.

3.Mabel born Apr 1900

4.Alvin M. born Feb 9,1903 died Dec 30 1979

5.Opal Thelma born 1907 married June 13,1931

6,Harry T. born 1908

7.Carrie born May 25,1912 died May 1984 married Charles Wallingford

The children of Nelson & Minnie Plummer Applegate are:

William, Virgie, Harmon, Robert and Herman Harold.

Nelson & Minnie were living in Adams CO OH in the 1910 census. In 1920

they were in Lewis Co KY.

In 1880, William & Mary/Martha were living in Precinct 7 in Lewis Co KY.

If any of this sounds familiar, then we have a match. Otherwise, we're a

lost cause. Maybe the names just sounded alike.Nice to chat with you

anyway. If I can be of help, let me know. I would like to have dates

that I don't have if you do have them though. Sorry no connection to

Ross.

Sincerely,

Rachel

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Subject: Re: 1900 Census for Jackson County

Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:23:34 -0700

From: "Gerry Hubacka"

To: "John W. Grace"

Hi John,

I recently found an obit for a Fitzpatrick in Athens County, so I've been

meaning to contact you! Glad you discovered the connection between Ellen

Kessler and her family. Here's the obit for Opal Graves Fitzpatrick, wife

of Thomas W., who is the son of Andrew E., who is the son of John Thomas,

who is the son of Robert and Rececca, so I thought you would be interested

in it:

OPAL FITZPATRICK

RADCLIFF - Opal Fitzpatrick, 78, of Radcliff, died Monday, Nov. 22,

1993, at Holzer Medical Center in Gallipolis.

Born March 11, 1915, in Vinton County, she was the daughter of the late

Samuel Clinton Graves and Mina Brooks Graves Doles.

Mrs. Fitzpatrick owned Fitzpatrick Farms and was an active member in

horticulture and agriculture groups in Vinton and Meigs Counties. She was

the recipient of the Goodyear Award in Vinton County for agriculture and

conservation practices.

She was a past central committeeman for the Democrat party, a former

Carpenter postmistress, a member of the National Postmasters organization,

a 40-year member of Order of Eastern Star Chapter 207 in Wilkesville, White

Shrine of Jerusalem in Pomeroy, Wilkesville Grange and American Legion

Auxiliary in Wilkesville, and was a representative for Woodland Accident

and Life Insurance Co. She attended Radcliff Fellowship Church where she

served as pianist for the congregation.

She is survived by a son and daughter-in-law, John and Kathy of

Radcliff; a daughter, Bonnie J. Huston of Wellston; a brother, Robert

Graves of Byer; five sisters, Goldie Timmons of Ray, June Jensen of

Houston, Texas, Ruth Brown of Chillicothe, Lottie Levetta Stewart of

Blacklick, and Ann Graves of Albany; a grandson and his wife, Gary and

Paula Houston; three grandchildren, Shannon and Shawn Huston, and John Lyle

Fitzpatrick; and a half sister, Elizabeth Conley.

Besides her parents, she was preceded in death by her husband, Thomas W.

Fitzpatrick, in 1969; two sisters, Pauline Click and Mabel Milliken; and a

brother, Asa Graves.

Services will be Saturday, 1 p.m., at Jenkins Funeral Chapel in Wellston

with Elder James R. Cummings and the Revs. Kathryn Dawson Puckett and Paul

Cottrill officiating. Burial will be in Athens Memory Gardens.

Friends may call at the funeral home Friday, 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m.

I also found an obit for a Willard Fitzpatrick, born in Jackson county, son

of Elza and Martha Wood Fitzpatrick, but I haven't been able to place him

with the other Fitzpatrick's. Do the names mean anything to you??

The society's research and materials are housed at the Jackson City

Library, 21 Broadway Street, Jackson, OH 45640. They also hold their

meetings there, so they probably don't have a formal office.

I'd be interested in any info you find there, I was also thinking of going

this year, but not until October.

Good luck!!

Gerry

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Subject: Re: Martin-Porter Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:48:37 -0600 From: "Norma Ledford" To: "John W. Grace"

John,Yes, these names are in my database. I descend from Enoch, then Ardelia whomarried a Daniel Boone Brewer. Ardelia was my ggrandmother. How are yourelated to the Porter line? I have some information on this line. Here isa little of it. Would be glad to share.Norma in Platte Co, MO

Enoch Porter b 24 Nov 1820 Cabell co, VA

md Sarah Smith b 2 Mar 1828 TN

ch:

Aylsye

Joseph W.

Eliza Jane b 26 Jul 1845 Platte Co, MO

Martha A.

Mary F.

William Thomas b 17 Sep 1848

Henry

James Franklin b 1 Feb 1856

John

Charles F.

Eliza Jane md James A. Martin 23 Feb 1866 in Platte Co, MO

ch:

Willis Franklin b 4 Mar 1867

Ardelia Frances b 22 Dec 1868 md Daniel Boone Brewer

Sallie America b 11 Jan 1870

Mary Elizabeth b 26 Jun 1873

Estella Susan b 21 Jun 1875

Etta Myrtle b 22 Jul 1878

Ella Lillian b 8 Feb 1881

Robert Emmitt b 8 Jun 1883

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From: writeus Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List To: "John W. Grace" Subject: Re: Holland surname

Hello John, I am not sure if there is a link,but there is a lot of coincidences that I have found.trll me what you think. My GGGrandfather John H Holland first appeared in Henderson Co.Ky and was baptised in 1869.Church Records state he was 20 years old born in Ohio in 1849. A few days later he marries Catherine Ryan ,He converted to marry her.They stay in Henderson Co til his death.Then I learned that the H stands for Hartley. John Hartley Holland While searching thru Ohio on the web I found a deed for John H Holland buying 40 acres in Jackson Co,Ohio.Still searching I found a page that had a map of Jackson county with landowners listed.I saw where the Holland land was and right beside it was Hartley land.I thought I had saved the page but I can't find it again but I did see it. Since my John was born in 1849 . John who bought the land was in 1854 ,my John was 5 years old.Is it a coincidence that my John's middle name is Hartley and the neighbor landowner is named Hartley.I can find no other Hollands in Henderson at that time ,so it seems as tho he came there alone.The land was owned by a W Holland in 1875 and J Hartley, J Fitzpatrick,and A J Fitzpatrick were some of the landowners who surrounded the Holland land.It is definately your Holland but I don't know if it is mine. Do you have Mary Ann's mother and fathers name and did she have any siblings that you know of. I may be wrong but I feel as though I am on the right track.I will keep searching on this and if you find anything let me know please. I hope I did not bore you too much. Tracy Holland

John W. Grace wrote: > Tracy, I just found your Jackson County posting. My 2gr grandmother was > Mary Ann Holland (1836-1870). She married John A. Fitzpatrick (1836-?). > I'm not sure where Mary Ann was born, but I do know that they raised at > least 5 children in Jackson County. I lived with my grandmother, who was > a Fitzpatrick, and attended Jackson High in the mid-1950's. > > Please let me know if you think we might have a link. > > John W. Grace > Oakland, Ca. > jwgrace@

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There is a marriage bond record of a Jacob Ross and Elizabeth Denton dated Sept. 28, 1815. William Denton signed John Nelson Ross's 1839 marriage bond.Elizabeth DENTON was born on 13 Mar 1799 in Fleming Co., KY. Elizabeth died in Nettle Creek Twnshp., Randolph Co., IN on 12 Feb 1857; she was 57.8 On 26 Sep 1815 when Elizabeth was 16, she married Jacob ROSS, son of John ROSS & Susannah PIAT, in Bath Co., KY. Born on 8 Sep 1792 Jacob died in Randolph Co., IN on 30 Jun 1880; he was 87.8 Buried in Huntsville Cemetery, Huntsville, Randolph Co., IN.

They had the following children:

i. John. Born on 26 Jul 1817 in Fleming Co., KY. On 24 Mar 1840 when John was 22, he married Elizabeth Ball HUNT in Randolph Co., IN. Born 18 May 1823 in Randolph Co., IN.

ii. Sarah (1820-1896)

iii. Thomas. Born on 7 Nov 1822 in Fleming Co., KY.

iv. Edward D.. Born on 16 Dec 1824 in Fleming Co., KY. On 25 Jul 1850 when Edward D. was 25, he married Mary Ann HILL19.19

v. America. Born on 6 Oct 1826 in Fleming Co., KY. On 25 Dec 1881 when America was 55, she married William H. HAYES8.8

vi. Amanda B.. Born on 21 Aug 1828 in Fleming Co., KY. On 29 Jun 1845 when Amanda B. was 16, she married John W. KEENER19.19

vii. Artimency. Born on 16 Aug 1830. On 3 Dec 1848 when Artimency was 18, she married David WRIGHT19.19

viii. Wesley D.. Born on 1 May 1832. On 17 Nov 1850 when Wesley D. was 18, he married Cynthia Ann AMBURN19,8.19

ix. Andrew V.. Born on 12 May 1832.

x. Elijah P.. Born on 13 Aug 1838.

xi. Matilda J.. Born on 7 Sep 1840.

xii. Ellen P.. Born on 1 Feb 1843.

An Elizabeth Denton was born in Tn. in 1800, and died in 1857. Her parents were Abraham Denton and Sarah "Sally" Hunt. Abraham Denton was born in Shenandoah Co., Va., in 1776, married Sarah Hunt in 1793, and died Nov. 6, 1813, in Bath County, Ky.. This Elizabeth Denton is listed as having children named John, Fletcher, Dorsey, Waldo and Perkins.

There is also an Elizabeth "Elinor" Denton who was also reported as being born in 1803, and married to James Vanlandingham in 1820. She also was reportedly the daughter of Abraham Denton and Sarah "Sally" Hunt. This Elizabeth Denton is listed as having children named John, Fletcher, Dorsey, Waldo and Perkins.

There is also a Rev. Jeremiah "Uncle Jerry" Hunt, born 1787 in Tn, died 1855 Fleming Co., Ky., who married a Mary Ross. This Mary Ross was born in 1786 in Va., married Jeremiah Hunt on Oct. 27, 1805 in Fleming Co., Ky., and died in 1865 in Bath Co., Ky.. Jeremiah and Mary had a daughter, Elizabeth Hunt, who married Alexander Swimm. Jeremiah and Mary had a son, Denton Hunt (1823-1891), who married Martha Ann Tincer, and had a son named John Ross Hunt (1866-?).

Rev. Jeremiah Hunt was the son of Reuben Hunt (1766/67-1825) and Nancy Denton. Reubin Hunt died in Bath Co., Ky.. Jeremiah HUNT was the grandson of John HUNT, Sr. and Mary (OVERALL?). All three HUNTs were Methodist Episcopal ministers. Jeremiah was also reportedly born abt 1788 in Washington

District, TN. Mary Ross died 1860-1870 in KY. She was the daughter of John ROSS. I would like to find out more

about John ROSS. Is he the John ROSS of Fleming Co., who was born 18 September 1854 in Prince William Co., VA and who applied for a Revolutionary War pension? I know that three

of his children included, Mary ROSS (see above); Jacob ROSS, born 1792, died 30 June 1880 in Randolph Co., IN ad married to Elizabeth DENTON, 26 September 1815 in Bath Co., KY;

and Margaret Ross, born 1800 and married to Wesley DENTON 23 November 1818 in Fleming Co., KY.

Sarah Hunt was born in Frederick Co., Va. in 1772, and died in Randolph Co., Indiana on Sept. 9, 1851. Abraham Denton had a brother William Denton, who was born in 1781 in Tn., married Mary "Polly" Hunt on June 21, 1798 in Bath or Fleming Co., Ky, and died Aug. 24, 1825. William Denton had a son, named William "Billy" Denton, born 1810 in Ky., married Catherine "Kitty" Barber on June 29, 1831 in Bath Co., Ky., and died in Feb. 1886 in Elk, Kansas. "Billy" Denton may have been the "William Denton" who signed John Nelson Ross' marriage bond contract.

Jacob Ross died in Randolph Co Indiana on June 30th 1880..i see 1 Daughter listed for them her name was sarah Ross and she married Benjamin N Hunt and Benjamin

was the son of John tipton Hunt and Mary Denton.

Mary A Ross..the sister of Jacob Ross who married Elizabeth Denton, married Jeremiah Hunt Jeremiah's mother was Nancy Denton. Jacob Ross's father was John Ross, born 9-18-1754 in Price William Co VA and he died Aft 1833 in KY..

Husband: Abraham Denton (D535) b. 1776 at: North Carolina, Colony of England Married: 1793 at: North Carolina Died: 6 NOV 1813 at: Bath County, Kentucky

Father:James Denton Mother:Elizabeth Unknown

Wife: Sarah Hunt (H530) b. 1772 at: Frederick County, Virginia, Colony of England Died: 9 SEP 1851 at: Randolph County, Indiana

CHILDREN

Name: Wesley Denton b. ABT. 1798 at: Tennessee Married: 23 NOV 1818 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Spouses: Margaret Ross

Name: Elizabeth Denton b. 13 MAR 1799 at: Fleming County, Kentucky Married: 28 SEP 1815 at: Fleming County, Kentucky Died: 12 FEB 1857 at: Nettle Creek Township, Randolph County, Indiana

Spouses: Jacob Ross

Name: Reuben Denton b. 2 JAN 1801 at: Tennessee Married: 18 OCT 1827 at: Bath County, Kentucky Died: 29 NOV 1862 at: Kentucky

Spouses: Jane Perkins

Name: Jane (Jennie) Denton b. 1803 at: Fleming County, Kentucky Married: 18 OCT 1831 at: Bath County, Kentucky

Spouses: Henry Reed

Name: Nancy Denton b. 1804 at: Fleming County, Kentucky

Spouses: Jeremiah Vanlandingham

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Pat Koestner WIZ196@

Could anyone tell me the relationship between Elizabeth HENSON and

William WIGGINS, who were listed together in the 1870 Scioto Co

census? She was 58, and he was 38. WIGGINS was listed in an earlier

PA census with members of Elizabeth HENSON'S family. No

relationship was shown.

Lori J Wilson icorn@

Looking for information on John F. Hughes (b KY), listed in 1920

Wayne Twp, Scioto Co census with his wife Sarah G (b KY) and son

Harold F. There was also listed Eva Henson w/son Oscar and a Bryan

Hamilton. John and Bryan worked in the steel mill. Would like

information on Gabrael (b KY; parents b VA) and Mary Hughes (b

KY, parents VT/KY), cited in 1920 census also (no twp listed). I would

like to know if anyone has information on either of these families.

Sue Bishop Goodrich susie@

Seeking information on my maternal grandmother, Nellie BEEKMAN

(1888 - 1965) and her family. Nellie was a dau (per 1900 census) of

Abraham BEEKMAN and Susan (or Susannah) RAMSEY (d 1906),

of Scioto Co. Nellie had 11 children (9 surviving childhood): Maggie,

Lettie (m. LEMMON) , Jenny (m. PYLE), William, Ada, Susan, Josiah,

Robert and Barton (m. BAKER). This family reportedly lived at South

Webster, Bloom Twp (1900) and in Portsmouth area. My

grandmother's name may have originally been Ida HENSON or

HENSEN and changed to Nellie Clyde BEEKMAN.

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Last Name: HENSON, First Name: , Middle Initial: ,

Date of Death: 01/11/16,

City: , County: SCIOTO, Volume: 1847, Certificate #: 06932, Code: 73,

Last Name: HENSON, First Name: , Middle Initial: ,

Date of Death: 01/11/16,

City: , County: SCIOTO, Volume: 1847, Certificate #: 06933, Code: 73,

Last Name: HENSON, First Name: LELA, Middle Initial: D,

Date of Death: 04/09/16,

City: , County: SCIOTO, Volume: 1931, Certificate #: 27773, Code: 73,

Last Name: HENSON, First Name: HAROLD, Middle Initial: E,

Date of Death: 11/16/15,

City: , County: SCIOTO, Volume: 1786, Certificate #: 62735, Code: 73,

From Lucasville, Cem.

HENSON, John 1906 - nd

HENSON, Fannie 1906 - 1945

HENSON, Jacob Co B 173 Reg OVI 1848 - 1938 |same

HENSON, MARGARET A. 1850 - 1927 |stone

HENSON, Glennie son of J & L Oct 13, 1902 - Jan 4, 1907

HICKS, Betty J. July 2, 1928 - May 20, 1976

From Flat Woods / Stoney Hill Cem.

HENSON, Franklin L 1876-1923

From Pine Grove. Cem.

HENSON, Keturah FOSTER 1844 - 1932

From Powelsville Cem.

KILLEN, Henson d 2 Mar 1910

ROSS, Margaret KILLEN (his dau) d 10 Jan 1933 (see Henson KILLEN)

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Dear Mr Grace

Many thanks for your recent e-mail concerning your immigrant ancestor

from Scotland. As you say Ross is not an uncommon surname in

Scotland and without a forename it makes the project difficult. The

middle name 'Nelson' may provide a clue however as it may be the

surname of a close relative, his mother for example.

I have identified many emigrants with the forename Ross, as you can

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my THE ORIGINAL SCOTS COLONISTS OF EARLY AMERICA, 1612-1783 [GPC,

1989]. I also have some unpublished material in note form which

contains Rosses. Generally there is more documentary material on

your side of the Atlantic relating to emigrants. The story that he is

descended from a Scottish Duke sounds a bit enhanced. Such stories

are not uncommon and usually have some basis of truth which has been

somewhat inflated over the years. Having said that there is an

individual of the landed gentry class who was on the frontier though

a bit earlier. He might be worth further investigation. What we do

have over here are the Church of Scotland Old Parish Registers of

baptism and marriage. These have been indexed and are organised by

county up to 1855. This source could be checked for a Ross/Nelson

correlation if required. It sounds like a bit of a wild-goose chase

but it may be one of our few options.

If you wish me to undertake research over here on your behalf I am

available for such work. I do enjoy a challenge though I am not too

hopeful regarding this one due to the lack of data on JNR's father.

I work at the rate of sixteen pounds per hour, plus expenses if

applicable, up to whatever amount sent. Could I suggest that you

finance two or three hours work which should be enough to establish

the position?

Hoping to hear from you.

Sincerely

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Wyatt McCLEESE

Posted by Jim W. Tackitt on Fri, 11 Jun 1999, in response to Have some

info for ya--, posted by Tina PA on Thu, 10 Jun 1999

Surnames: TACKETT, TACKITT, BLANKENSHIP, MCCLEESE

12 Jun 1999

Ms. Trivett:

Wyatt McCleese, b 6 Oct 1878, Carter Co., KY [Cemetery Record], who marr. America

BLANKENSHIP, 1882-1941, was the son of James Wesley McCLEESE, 1852-1931, and his first

wife, Rhodisa TACKETT, 1857-1893. Her line: Sherwood, Moses, Thomas Tackitt,

c1770-aft1850, NC to Pike >Johnson Co., KY.

You will find numerous references to this family on our website on the page, "Descriptive Table of

Contents," the link for which is found on the page "Tackett Journal."

Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; jtackitt@

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Dear John W. GRACE,

Received your post and would appreciate any information you can share

including children of Elza & Alice, since I was working from the memory of

my mother -in-law. Do you have Elza Cline's parents names?

My e-mail address is above. Snail mail :

Elizabeth C. Herrmann

615 E. Countryside Lane

Idaho Falls, ID 83404

phone 208-522-0493

I've been working on this line for several years. We have visited E A CLINE

& Alice ROSS CLINE graves in Prairie City, Jasper County, Iowa. This fall

I made contact with two people through the LDS Ancestrial File but wanted

to confirm our connection to their line. Birth Certificate for Ap 17,

1852, says male baby born to William Harrison CLINE & Malinda OFFIEL in

Carter CO.

Our family notes do mention OFFIEL or OFFILL but siblings do not match

"memory" notes. Hence you can understand my wanting to document from

another source.

Thank you and eagerly awaiting your reply,

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Hi John

I'm always so pleased to hear from you. I will miss your Grace Family

Page. I have a favor to ask of you. At one time you asked if I would like

a copy of your Grizzel/ell/le files; you mentioned that you could send them

MS Word. If the offer is still there, I would like to accept. I have MS

Works and Word Perfect. My daughter has MS Word. So I think I could get

the file open. I also have PAF and have just ordered Family Tree Maker. A

ged-com would work. I want to thank you in advance in case you decide to

send me the Grizzell files.

Thank you for telling me that the 1880 KY census is on the Carter Web

Page. What I'm looking for is the 1900 and 1910 census for Carter and

Greenup counties. At one time, Larry had compiled census info for

Grizzel/ell/le line for a couple different states, Kentucky being one of

those states. Recently I asked him about those censuses, and he said that

because of the small amount of interest, he had taken them off.

Did you ever connect with that lady who collects obituaries? In one of

our communications, you mentioned that she might be someone I could ask

about an obituary for my grandfather, John Grizzell who died in 1917-18. I

have a death record for a John Grizzel of about the right age, but I don't

really think it is the correct one for my grandfather. It says that this

John Grizzel was buried in Kenton County Kentucky at the Highland Cemetery.

That doesn't make sense because my grandmother was still alive at the time

and living at Grizzle Hollow where they had their farm, and she was buried

at the Huffman Cemetery at Iron Hill; I would imagine that the two of them

would be buried together. Also, the old-timers in our family remember him

being buried at the Huffman Cemetery.

Well, John. Thank you again for responding so promptly; I appreciate

your consideration. Regards, Phyllis

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Subject: Ebie Grizzell Lyons

John, Ebie Grizzell Lyons was my great-aunt. She married Jess Lyons, who

was a brother to my grandmother, Sarah Frances Lyons. The Lyonses were

from Elliott County.

My Aunt Ebie and Uncle Jess died when I was a teenager, but I remember

them. I may have a snapshot of them. One of their sons (Claude) always

lived his adult life in Niles, Ohio, and Clarence lived in Olive Hill. I

remember my Mother speaking of her first cousins, Roscoe, Claude, Ruby, and

Clarence. I took her to see Clarence around 1980, and I could have a

snapshot of him made then when we went to visit him.

If their daughter Ruby married George Walker, I'm wondering if you have any

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near Grayson)?

Ebie was a very tall, thin woman as I recall. Claude Lyons is probably

deceased (seems he had a serious burn on a leg - maybe from an industry).

Hope this might help you.

Would like to hear from you.

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Nancy MOORE Barnett, Lawrence Co. OH

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John McGlone & Lucretia Friend

Joseph McGlone & Mary Catherine Moore

Bruce McGlone & Anna Henderson

Julius A.K.A. Harold McGlone & Dorothy Helen Sells (the only grandparents I

knew and my grandmother is still living)

Robert Eugene McGlone & Victoria Marie Howsman (my parents)

and then me ,Roberta McGlone A.K.A. Birdie

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Posted by Ron Brown on Thu, 10 Jun 1999, in response to Wallace

family,Carter Co., posted by Kristin Wallace on Fri, 14 May 1999

Surname: Wallace, Armstrong

I have a Samuel H. Wallace b. 1869 to Odom Wallace and Eliza Jane Armstrong. Brothers of

Samuel include: John E. b. 1871; Noah B. b. 1874; Belden b. Oct. 24, 1873; William H. b. 1858;

Sisters include: Nancy V. b. 1861; Phoebe L. b. 1863; Martha E. b. 1866; Amanda N. b. 1877;

Rebecca S. b. 1879.

I don't have any descendants of Samuel H. Wallace, but would like to hear from you if this is your

guy!

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Posted by Florence Ayers on May 02, 1999 at 10:38:31:

In Reply to: Amanda Rice Sturgill b1851 Carter Co, KY posted by Kay Mason on February 21,

1999 at 08:01:09:

I do not know of a Rice link to Amanda Sturgill. She was the daughter of Solomon and Rebecca

Tompkins Sturgill. Rebecca was the daughter of Benjamin Tompkins. Solomon was the son of John

and Jemima Wells Sturgill.

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Hi John,

I do not support the theory that Linkhorn Blevins as brother of William Blevins who married Avey, they are related but not

brothers.

Francis Blevins who married James Boggs is not of the family you have her with. Francis Blevins is the daughter of James

Blevins the Revolutionary War Soldier who was married to Hannah O. Lyons.

1. JAMES2 BOGGS (JOHN O.1) was born 1800 in Virginia, and died 1849 in Carter County Kentucky. He married

FRANCES BLEVINS1 1819 in Floyd County, Kentucky, daughter of JAMES BLEVINS and HANNAH LYONS.

Children of JAMES BOGGS and FRANCES BLEVINS are:

2. i. MATILDA3 BOGGS, b. November 02, 1820, Kentucky.

3. ii. EPHRAIM BOGGS, b. 1822, Lawrence County, Kentucky; d. Harlin County, Kentucky.

4. iii. ELLENDER BOGGS, b. 1824.

5. iv. REBECCA BOGGS, b. May 23, 1827, Kentucky; d. June 09, 1882, C arter County Kentucky.

v. ELIHU BOGGS, b. 1829; m. TEMPERANCE MCGUIRE.

vi. NANCY BOGGS, b. 1831; m. JAMES MCGUIRE.

vii. HANNAH BOGGS, b. June 23, 1833, C arter County Kentucky; d. March 09, 1911, C arter County Kentucky,

Wolford Cemetery; m. ISOM ISON, October 21, 1849, Carter County Kentucky.

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1. JAMES "JIM"3 BLEVINS (DANIEL2, POSSIBLY DANIEL1)1 was born 1802 in Virginia, and died Aft. 1850.

He married HANNAH RAMEY.

Notes for JAMES "JIM" BLEVINS:

This information has been researched by Carolyn Wilson Dyer. Information obtained from Kentucky Archives Records,

Kentucky Historical Library Records.

All the Blevins in this family first appeared in Pike County, Kentucky just before 1850. In the 1850 Scott County,

Virginia Census we find James "Jim" Blevins age 48, his wife Hannah Ramey age 46, children and some grandchildren

living in home. Peggy 16, William J., 12, Henry H., 9, James 5., John 10/12, Rebecca 25, daughter Martha age 3.

Shortly after the 1850 Census this family begins to break apart and leave Virginia and head to Pike County, Kentucky.

Hannah died about Cia 1856

Children of JAMES BLEVINS and HANNAH RAMEY are:

2. i. JOHN M4 BLEVINS, b. 1822, Virginia.

3. ii. REBECCA BLEVINS, b. 1825, Virginia; d. Buried in Grapevine, Pike County, Kentucky.

4. iii. JACOB BLEVINS, b. 1826, Virginia.

5. iv. DANIEL BLEVINS, b. 1828, Virginia.

6. v. JAMES BLEVINS, b. 1833, Virginia.

vi. WILLIAM J. BLEVINS1, b. 1838, Virginia; m. SARAH KEEN.

vii. JACKSON P. BLEVINS2, b. 1840, Virginia.

viii. HENRY BLEVINS2, b. 1842, Virginia.

ix. MARTHA BLEVINS, b. 1847.

I do not support the theory that Levi Blevins is the brother of James Blevins. Related but not brothers.

Carolyn Wilson Dyer

Lexington, Kentucky

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:19:52 -0400

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Hi John,

Found this information in my notes.

On the Carter County 1850 Census there is a Samuel Ross age 58 house # 279 b. New York

wife Mary age 57,born same

House # 286 Reuben Ross age 26 wife mary age 19 and family

House # 287 your John N. Ross and family

Is Samuel the father of John N. Ross? If not he is probably related or they would not be living so

close to one another.

listed below are other Ross Families in the Eastern Kentucky with ties to Ross families in Carter,

Lawrence, Johnson County try some of these as the father of John.

Johnson County 1850 Census

David Ross age 90 b. North Carolina

Margarett (VanBidder) age 58 Virginia

Joseph age 22 Stephan age 20 both born Ky.

Lawrence County, Kentucky

1850 Census

Ross

James Ross age 30 b. KY

wife Sarah can not read age

David Ross 5, Mary Ross can not read age

This family lives house 263

living in house 258 is Henderson Boggs, house 259 John Boggs and 260 James Boggs.

Lawrence County Ky Census 1850

John D. Ross age 42 b. VA wife Susan age 37, and 10 children

Carolyn Wilson Dyer

Lexington, Kentucky

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Descendants of Daniel Blevins

Generation No. 1

1. DANIEL2 BLEVINS (DANIEL1) was born Abt. 1760 in Virginia, and died September 1839 in Virginia. He married SARAH.

Children of DANIEL BLEVINS and SARAH are:

2. i. NATHAN3 BLEVINS, b. 1795, Virginia; d. Bef. 1850, Russell County, Virginia.

3. ii. MARY BLEVINS, b. 1801, Tennessee; d. 1860, Carter County Kentucky.

4. iii. JAMES "JIM" BLEVINS, b. 1802, Virginia; d. Aft. 1850.

5. iv. SARAH BLEVINS, b. 1807, Virginia; d. Aft. 1880, Virginia.

6. v. LINKHORN BLEVINS, b. 1813, Scott County, Virginia; d. Aft. 1893, Virginia.

Generation No. 2

2. NATHAN3 BLEVINS (DANIEL2, DANIEL1)1 was born 1795 in Virginia, and died Bef. 1850 in Russell County, Virginia1,2. He married MARY RODGERS2,3,4,4 1824 in Virginia.

Children of NATHAN BLEVINS and MARY RODGERS are:

i. CANDISS "CANNIE"4 BLEVINS4, b. 1828, Scott County, Virginia.

7. ii. LINKHORN BLEVINS, b. 1832, Scott County, Virginia.

8. iii. DANIEL AUSTIN BLEVINS, b. 1835, Scott County, Virginia; d. 1883, Scott County, Virginia.

iv. THOMAS BLEVINS5, b. 1836, Scott County, Virginia6.

v. JAMES BLEVINS6,7, b. 1838, Scott County, Virginia.

vi. WILLIAM BLEVINS, b. 1841, Scott County, Virginia8,9.

vii. FLETCHER BLEVINS10,11, b. 1843, Scott County, Virginia; m. MARY ANN TURNER, January 07, 1868, Russell County, Virginia.

viii. SALLIE BLEVINS.

3. MARY3 BLEVINS (DANIEL2, DANIEL1)12 was born 1801 in Tennessee, and died 1860 in Carter County Kentucky. She married GEORGE MCDAVID.

Notes for GEORGE MCDAVID:

George McDavid father Patrick McDavid is listed on the 1800 Russell County, Virginia Tax list, 1810 Russell County Tax list, but not on the 1820 Scott County, Virginia Census. Son George is listed on the 1810 Russell County Tax list and the 1820 Scott County, Virginia Tax list.

Children of MARY BLEVINS and GEORGE MCDAVID are:

9. i. JAMES4 MCDAVID, b. 1812, Russell County, Virginia; d. 1862, Carter County Kentucky.

10. ii. LUCY MCDAVID, b. 1820, Russell County, Virginia; d. 1891, Carter County Kentucky.

11. iii. JOHN MCDAVID, b. 1816.

12. iv. ELIZABETH MCDAVID, b. 1821, Virginia.

13. v. SAMUEL MCDAVID, b. 1822, Virginia; d. 1904, Kentucky.

14. vi. NANCY MCDAVID, b. 1827, Virginia.

15. vii. DANIEL MCDAVID, b. 1828.

16. viii. MARTHA MCDAVID, b. 1830.

4. JAMES "JIM"3 BLEVINS (DANIEL2, DANIEL1)13 was born 1802 in Virginia, and died Aft. 1850. He married HANNAH RAMEY.

Notes for JAMES "JIM" BLEVINS:

This information has been researched by Carolyn Wilson Dyer. Information obtained from Kentucky Archives Records, Kentucky Historical Library Records.

All the Blevins in this family first appeared in Pike County, Kentucky just before 1850. In the 1850 Scott County, Virginia Census we find James "Jim" Blevins age 48, his wife Hannah Ramey age 46, children and some grandchildren living in home. Peggy 16, William J., 12, Henry H., 9, James 5., John 10/12, Rebecca 25, daughter Martha age 3.

Shortly after the 1850 Census this family begins to break apart and leave Virginia and head to Pike County, Kentucky. Hannah died about Cia 1856

Shortly after the 1850 Census in Scott County, the family began to break apart and dribble into Pike County. This may have occured as aresult of the death of Hannah circa 1856. The remaining children in the family migrated to Pike County probably because two of the boys in the family, Richard Daniel Blevins, and his brother, Jacob

Blevins married two Belcher sisters in Pike County in the late 1840s and remained there. They lived very close to the Harper Keen family at the time that Harper's first wife died. It would appear that Rebecca (who was in her late 20s and unmarried) may have been "set-up" with Harper, an older man with property, and a widower with several children. This scenario is consistent

with the tendency Blevins family ancestors to "marry up." I have been to the location of the land that Harper and Rebecca owned. It's at a place called "Grapevine" in the hills of Pike County. The cemetery is there and both graves are marked with stones of some size. (One potential confusion in the Grapevine areas is that there was also a family of "Bevins"

living there. Their ancestors are even buried in the same cemetery, but have

absolutely no relationship to the Blevins family in Pike County, or the Blevins family in general.) The sons of James and Hannah eventually moved back to Scott County with their families after the Civil War. The daughters of James

and Hannah appeared to have lived out their lives in Kentucky with their native Pike County husbands. There is one mystery that my research has not resolved. Jacob Blevins, son of James and brother to Richard Daniel, last appears in the Pike County in 1852 where the birth of a child is recorded. No trace of Jacob, his wife Elizabeth or their children can be found after this date. It is possible that Jacob died and Elizabeth remarried.

4/19/98

Children of JAMES BLEVINS and HANNAH RAMEY are:

17. i. JACOB4 BLEVINS, b. 1826, Virginia.

18. ii. DANIEL BLEVINS, b. 1828, Virginia.

19. iii. JOHN M BLEVINS, b. 1822, Virginia.

20. iv. JAMES BLEVINS, b. 1833, Virginia.

v. JACKSON P. BLEVINS14, b. 1840, Virginia.

vi. HENRY BLEVINS14, b. 1842, Virginia.

21. vii. REBECCA BLEVINS, b. 1825, Virginia; d. Buried in Grapevine, Pike County, Kentucky.

viii. WILLIAM J. BLEVINS15, b. 1838, Virginia.

5. SARAH3 BLEVINS (DANIEL2, DANIEL1)15 was born 1807 in Virginia, and died Aft. 1880 in Virginia. She married JACOB JR. RAMEY.

Notes for SARAH BLEVINS:

1850 Scott County, Virginia Census

living in the home of Jacob Ramey Sr. age 75 Virginia, wife Rebecca age 74, Sally 42, Hannah 19, Nancy 14, Polly 12, Eliza 11, John 4. All born in Virginia.

Children of SARAH BLEVINS and JACOB RAMEY are:

i. LUCINDA4 RAMEY, b. 1826, Virginia.

ii. DANIEL RAMEY, b. 1828.

iii. HANNAH RAMEY, b. 1831.

iv. NANCY RAMEY, b. 1836.

v. MARY RAMEY, b. 1838.

vi. ELIZA RAMEY, b. 1839.

vii. JOHN RAMEY, b. 1846.

6. LINKHORN3 BLEVINS (DANIEL2, DANIEL1)16,17,18,19,20 was born 1813 in Scott County, Virginia21, and died Aft. 1893 in Virginia. He married (1) SARAH "SALLY" BELCHER August 26, 1833 in Scott County, Virginia. He married (2) MARTHA A. ROBINSON WOODS October 12, 1888 in Wise County, Virginia, daughter of WM. ROBINSON and SARAH ROBINSON.

Notes for LINKHORN BLEVINS:

1850 Russell County, Virginia shows Linkhorn 31, Lucy Blevins 45 with 96 year old Sarah in this household. Mary Blevins widow of Nathan with sons named Linkhorn, Daniel, Thomas, James, William and Fletcher.

Children of LINKHORN BLEVINS and SARAH BELCHER are:

i. ALEXANDER4 BLEVINS, b. 1837, Scott County, Virginia.

22. ii. NATHANIEL BLEVINS, b. 1839, Scott County, Virginia; d. Bef. 1880, Wise County, Virginia.

iii. JACKSON BLEVINS, b. 1841, Scott County, Virginia22.

23. iv. GEORGE JOHN BLEVINS, b. 1843, Scott County, Virginia; d. Bef. 1880, Wise County, Virginia.

v. ELIZABETH BLEVINS, b. 1845, Scott County, Virginia22,23; m. MATTHEW MOORE, August 1871, Wise County, Virginia.

vi. HELEN M. BLEVINS, b. 1846, Scott County, Virginia.

vii. MARGRET BLEVINS, b. 1847, Scott County, Virginia; m. LEER BELCHER, 1865, Wise County, Virginia.

viii. MALVINA BLEVINS, b. 1849.

24. ix. LINSEY P. BLEVINS, b. 1854, Russell County, Virginia.

x. MATILDA BLEVINS, b. 1856, Wise County, Virginia; m. J.A. VANOVER, October 1876, Wise County, Virginia.

xi. THOMAS BLEVINS, b. 1863.

xii. WILLIAM BLEVINS, b. 1864.

xiii. GEORGE W. BLEVINS, b. 1869, Wise County, Virginia.

Generation No. 3

7. LINKHORN4 BLEVINS (NATHAN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)24,25 was born 1832 in Scott County, Virginia25. He married ALCY BURCHETT October 28, 1857 in Russell County, Virginia.

Children of LINKHORN BLEVINS and ALCY BURCHETT are:

i. CARMLETT5 BLEVINS, b. 1859, Lawrence County, Kentucky.

ii. JAMES L. BLEVINS, b. 1860, Virginia; d. 1931, Lincoln County, West Virginia, buried Warrick Cemetery; m. JOSIE GILKERSON.

iii. SILVERSTON BLEVINS, b. 1865, Virginia.

8. DANIEL AUSTIN4 BLEVINS (NATHAN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)26 was born 1835 in Scott County, Virginia, and died 1883 in Scott County, Virginia. He married ALEY HALE26 March 04, 1858 in Russell County, Virginia, daughter of THOMAS HALE and NANCY DICKENSON.

Children of DANIEL BLEVINS and ALEY HALE are:

i. MARY WRIGHT5 BLEVINS27, b. 1859, Russell County, Virginia.

ii. JOHN BLEVINS28, b. 1863, Russell County, Virginia.

iii. JAMES BLEVINS29, b. 1866.

iv. THOMAS BLEVINS29, b. 1868, Russell County, Virginia.

25. v. NATHAN ALVIN BLEVINS, b. 1872, Scott County, Virginia.

vi. SARAH BLEVINS29, b. 1874, Russell County, Virginia.

26. vii. DANIEL CLARENCE BLEVINS, b. 1881, Russell County, Virginia; d. 1986.

9. JAMES4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1812 in Russell County, Virginia, and died 1862 in Carter County Kentucky. He married NANNIE EASTMAN.

Children of JAMES MCDAVID and NANNIE EASTMAN are:

i. NANCY5 MCDAVID.

ii. ROSE MCDAVID.

iii. MATILDA MCDAVID, m. WILLIAM LEWIS.

10. LUCY4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)30 was born 1820 in Russell County, Virginia, and died 1891 in Carter County Kentucky. She married JOHN ARMSTRONG30.

Notes for JOHN ARMSTRONG:

1880 Carter County Census Olive Hill Pct #3, John Armstrong age 69 born in Virginia, Lucinda age 60 born in Virginia, son George 19 .

Living next door is daughter Amanda who married James DeHart.

Children of LUCY MCDAVID and JOHN ARMSTRONG are:

i. ELIZEL5 ARMSTRONG, b. 1838, Carter County Kentucky.

ii. JOHN ARMSTRONG, b. 1857, Carter County Kentucky; m. EMMA MAE.

iii. VIRGINIA ARMSTRONG, m. NOAH BLAKENBECKLER.

iv. HENRY ARMSTRONG, b. 1842; m. KITTY ANN JARVIS.

v. MARY ELIZABETH ARMSTRONG, b. 1840; m. FRANK SAMMONS.

vi. JANE ARMSTRONG, m. ODON WALLACE.

27. vii. AMANDA ARMSTRONG, b. 1845, Carter County Kentucky.

viii. SARAH ARMSTRONG, m. HENRY DEHART.

ix. FRANCIS ARMSTRONG, m. BOGUS ROSS.

x. GEORGE ARMSTRONG, m. MARY BRAMMER.

11. JOHN4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)30 was born 1816. He married MILLIE ARMSTRONG.

Children of JOHN MCDAVID and MILLIE ARMSTRONG are:

i. AMANDA5 MCDAVID, b. 1846; m. MACK PORTER.

ii. SARAH MCDAVID, b. 1848; m. JAMES PORTER.

iii. SAMUEL MCDAVID, b. 1845, Carter County Kentucky.

iv. PERLINA MCDAVID, m. GEORGE YATES.

v. WILLIAM ALLEN MCDAVID, m. REBECCA PENNINGTON.

vi. JESSEE MCDAVID, m. MARY WELLS.

vii. NANCY MCDAVID, m. BENJIMIN WEBB.

12. ELIZABETH4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)30 was born 1821 in Virginia. She married JESSEE SLOAS31.

Children of ELIZABETH MCDAVID and JESSEE SLOAS are:

i. JOHN5 SLOAS, b. 1841, Carter County Kentucky; m. #1 MARY WELLS #2 AMANDA WHITT.

ii. MARY SLOAS, b. 1846.

iii. NANCY SLOAS, b. 1849; m. WILLIAM WELLS.

iv. MARTHA SLOAS, b. 1849.

v. SAMUEL "BUCK" SLOAS, m. MARGRET WELLS.

vi. MELISSA SLOAS, m. SHERMAN GOGGESS.

13. SAMUEL4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1822 in Virginia, and died 1904 in Kentucky. He married ELIZABETH EASTHAM.

Children of SAMUEL MCDAVID and ELIZABETH EASTHAM are:

i. WILLIAM EDWARD5 MCDAVID, m. #1 AMANDA STURGILL #2 ALICE SAMMONS.

ii. MARY JUDITH MCDAVID, m. ISIAH WILCOX.

iii. JOHN MCDAVID.

iv. ELIZABETH MCDAVID, m. WILLIAM HEBERLAND.

v. SAMUEL MCDAVID, m. MARY FRANCIS FIELDS.

vi. JOHN LAFE MCDAVID.

14. NANCY4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)31 was born 1827 in Virginia. She married BENJIMIN STURGILL.

Children of NANCY MCDAVID and BENJIMIN STURGILL are:

i. GEORGE W.5 STURGILL, b. 1849.

ii. LAFE STURGILL.

iii. JOHN STURGILL.

iv. SAMUEL STURGILL.

15. DANIEL4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1828. He married ELIZABETH STURGILL.

Children of DANIEL MCDAVID and ELIZABETH STURGILL are:

i. FRANK5 MCDAVID.

ii. JOHN MCDAVID.

iii. WILLIAM MCDAVID.

iv. MARTHA MCDAVID.

16. MARTHA4 MCDAVID (MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1830. She married #1 WILLIAM BUSH #2 JAKE PORTER.

Children of MARTHA MCDAVID and #1 PORTER are:

i. ELIZABETH5 BUSH.

ii. SAMUEL BUSH.

iii. SARAH PORTER.

iv. WILLIAM PORTER.

v. GEORGE PORTER.

vi. VENNA PORTER.

vii. NANCY PORTER.

17. JACOB4 BLEVINS (JAMES "JIM"3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)32 was born 1826 in Virginia. He married ELIZABETH BELCHER October 03, 1847 in Pike County, Kentucky33,34.

Children of JACOB BLEVINS and ELIZABETH BELCHER are:

i. ALMEDA5 BLEVINS, b. 1845, Pike County, Kentucky35.

ii. GEORGE BLEVINS, b. 1849, Pike County, Kentucky36.

iii. NANCY JANE BLEVINS, b. 1852, Pike County, Kentucky.

18. DANIEL4 BLEVINS (JAMES "JIM"3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)36,37 was born 1828 in Virginia. He married MARY ANN BELCHER December 10, 1846 in Pike County, Kentucky.

Children of DANIEL BLEVINS and MARY BELCHER are:

i. JAMES D.5 BLEVINS38,39, b. 1847, Pike County, Kentucky.

ii. ARMITHA BLEVINS40, b. 1849, Pike County, Kentucky40.

iii. MARY E. BLEVINS41, b. 1851, Virginia.

iv. JOHN F. BLEVINS41, b. September 04, 1853, Pike County, Kentucky41.

v. WILLIAM J. BLEVINS41, b. 1856, Pike County, Kentucky.

vi. MILES BLEVINS41, b. 1857, Pike County, Kentucky.

19. JOHN M4 BLEVINS (JAMES "JIM"3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)41 was born 1822 in Virginia. He married DRUSCILLA41.

Children of JOHN BLEVINS and DRUSCILLA are:

i. JAMES H.5 BLEVINS41, b. 1841, Kentucky.

ii. WILLIAM A. BLEVINS41, b. 1844, Kentucky.

iii. LEONARD J. BLEVINS41, b. 1845, Kentucky.

iv. LOUISA BLEVINS41, b. 1848, Kentucky.

v. JOHN N. BLEVINS41, b. 1851.

vi. MARTHA V. BLEVINS41, b. 1853, Kentucky.

20. JAMES4 BLEVINS (JAMES "JIM"3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)41 was born 1833 in Virginia. He married JANE PORTER.

Children of JAMES BLEVINS and JANE PORTER are:

i. JOHN F.5 BLEVINS41, b. 1852, Virginia.

ii. LEWIS BLEVINS41, b. April 10, 1854, Pike County, Kentucky.

iii. WILLIAM H. BLEVINS41, b. 1856, Pike County, Kentucky.

iv. GEORGE BLEVINS, b. 1860, Pike County, Kentucky.

21. REBECCA4 BLEVINS (JAMES "JIM"3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)42 was born 1825 in Virginia, and died in Buried in Grapevine, Pike County, Kentucky. She married HARPER KEENE June 01, 1856 in Pike County, Kentucky.

Notes for REBECCA BLEVINS:

The daughters of James

and Hannah appeared to have lived out their lives in Kentucky with their native Pike County husbands.

Children of REBECCA BLEVINS and HARPER KEENE are:

i. SARAH5 KEENE43, b. 1844.

ii. CLARINDA KEENE43, b. 1845.

iii. WILLIAM T. KEENE43, b. 1849.

iv. PRICY KEENE43, b. 1850.

v. MARY KEENE43, b. 1852.

vi. GEORGE W. KEENE43, b. 1856.

vii. DAVID KEENE43, b. 1857.

viii. FRANKLIN KEENE43, b. 1858.

ix. PAULINA KEENE43, b. March 12.

28. x. MARTHA BLEVINS, b. 1847, Virginia; d. September 07, 1925, Richmond, Madison County, Kentucky.

22. NATHANIEL4 BLEVINS (LINKHORN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1839 in Scott County, Virginia, and died Bef. 1880 in Wise County, Virginia. He married (1) MARY ANN 1855. He married (2) MATILDA STEEL February 1871 in Wise County, Virginia.

Children of NATHANIEL BLEVINS and MARY ANN are:

i. MADISON5 BLEVINS, b. 1856.

ii. SARAH J. BLEVINS44, b. 1858.

iii. HOPKINS BLEVINS44, b. 1861.

iv. ELLEN BLEVINS, b. 186344.

v. ELIZABETH BLEVINS, b. 186644.

vi. MALISSA BLEVINS, b. 186944.

Children of NATHANIEL BLEVINS and MATILDA STEEL are:

vii. JAMES M.5 BLEVINS, b. 1876, Wise County, Virginia.

viii. SELAH A. BLEVINS, b. 1877, Wise County, Virginia45.

23. GEORGE JOHN4 BLEVINS (LINKHORN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1843 in Scott County, Virginia, and died Bef. 1880 in Wise County, Virginia. He married MARTHA WELLS May 04, 1872 in Wise County, Virginia.

Children of GEORGE BLEVINS and MARTHA WELLS are:

i. ALEXENDER5 BLEVINS.

ii. NANCY L. BLEVINS.

24. LINSEY P.4 BLEVINS (LINKHORN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1854 in Russell County, Virginia. He married MARY D. MILLER May 1877.

Children of LINSEY BLEVINS and MARY MILLER are:

i. EMMETT5 BLEVINS, b. 1877, Wise County, Virginia.

ii. SARAH BLEVINS.

Generation No. 4

25. NATHAN ALVIN5 BLEVINS (DANIEL AUSTIN4, NATHAN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)46 was born 1872 in Scott County, Virginia. He married ADINA JOHNSON.

Children of NATHAN BLEVINS and ADINA JOHNSON are:

i. RUBY M.6 BLEVINS, b. February 18, 1896, Dante, Russell County, Virginia46.

ii. WALKER BLEVINS47, b. May 18, 1898, Dante, Russell County, Virginia.

iii. IRA VEMONT BLEVINS, b. September 02, 1901, Russell County, Virginia.

iv. AVAH LONA BLEVINS, b. April 25, 1904, Russell County, Virginia.

v. ROBERT BLEVINS, b. July 31, 1906, Dante, Russell County, Virginia48; m. GRACE HELEN MORELOCK, September 20, 1933, Scott County, Virginia.

vi. LINNIE BEULAH BLEVINS, b. October 16, 1912, Hamlin, Russell County, Virginia.

26. DANIEL CLARENCE5 BLEVINS (DANIEL AUSTIN4, NATHAN3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)48 was born 1881 in Russell County, Virginia, and died 1986. He married LILLIAN HOLLIMAN48 1912 in Russell County, Virginia, daughter of JESSIE HOLLIMAN and REBECA HICKS.

Children of DANIEL BLEVINS and LILLIAN HOLLIMAN are:

i. VIOLET6 BLEVINS, b. 1913, Russell County, Virginia; m. LEO TURNER.

ii. JESSIE HOWARD BLEVINS, b. 1916, Russell Co. VA.

iii. HAZEL BLEVINS, b. 1919.

iv. EDITH BLEVINS, b. 1921.

v. FRED BLEVINS.

vi. BOB BLEVINS.

vii. PAULINE BLEVINS.

viii. FLO BLEVINS.

ix. CECILE BLEVINS.

x. ROSA BLEVINS.

27. AMANDA5 ARMSTRONG (LUCY4 MCDAVID, MARY3 BLEVINS, DANIEL2, DANIEL1) was born 1845 in Carter County Kentucky. She married JAMES DEHART.

Children of AMANDA ARMSTRONG and JAMES DEHART are:

i. SARAH6 DEHART, b. 1867.

ii. CHARLES DEHART, b. 1873.

iii. GABRIEL DEHART, b. 1874.

iv. WILLIAM H. DEHART, b. 1879.

28. MARTHA5 BLEVINS (REBECCA4, JAMES "JIM"3, DANIEL2, DANIEL1)49,50 was born 1847 in Virginia, and died September 07, 1925 in Richmond, Madison County, Kentucky. She married (1) BEN CASSADY Abt. 1867 in Pike County, Kentucky. She married (2) JOHN BOGEL EPLING September 19, 1873 in Irnton, Ohio, son of ISAAC EPLING and ALLY EPLING.

Notes for MARTHA BLEVINS:

BLEVINS

Martha Ellen Blevins Scott County,

Virginia, abt 1848. she was 77 years of age ( She died

September 7, 1925 in Madison County, Kentucky. She is buried in

the

Richmond Cemetary in Richmond Kentucky, although it states on her

death~

certif icate the "Conis? Family Cemetary". According to the

Richmond

Cemetary record she is buried in the "Potter's Field" section of

the

cemetary which was for folks who didn't have money enough for a

"bigger

type" funeral. She died of chronic nephritis.

Her mother's name was Rebecca Cain/Keen trouble. Cain is her mother's married name. And this is how it is

written on the death certificate. Rebecca married a Harper

Cain/Keen. On

the 1850 Scott County Va census it lists:

James Blevins 48 Farmer

Hannah 46

Rebecca 25

Peggy 16

William J. 12

Henry H. 9

James 5

MARTHA 3

John 10/12

Rebecca shows up on the 1860 Pike County kentucky census married

to

Harper Cain/Keen.

Harper Keen 41

Rebecca 36

Sarah 16

Clarinda L. 15

Wm T. 11

Pricy 10

Mary 8

George W. 4

David 3

Franklin 1

Paulina 3/12

Martha Blevins 11

Farmer VA

Harper & Rebecca were married 1 June 1856.

Martha Ellen Blevins was married prior to Ben

Casaday. She divorced him in paintsville, Ky abt 1868. She married John

Bogle Epling on 19 Sept 1873 in Ironton Ohio. John was born in Tazewell

County, Va. on 8/29/1842 and died in Madison County Ky on 7/15/1932 of

pneumonia due to a car accident. He is buried next to Martha Ellen in

the Richmond Cemetary. John's parents were Issac and Morning Ally/Amy

Taylor Epling.

John was also married prior to Martha Ellen Blevins to Mary Ann Rowe.

They had two children Issac Jacob, b. 11-1-1861 and Louisa, b.

1864,d.1871. John and Martha had one daughter, my g grandmother, Pearl

Epling, b. 6-21-1888, died Oct 30 1951. She married Hume Vernon Johnson.

Pearl was born in Webster Ohio.

Child of MARTHA BLEVINS and JOHN EPLING is:

i. PEARL6 EPLING, b. June 21, 1888, Webster, Ohio; d. October 30, 1951; m. HUME VERNON JOHNSON.

Endnotes

1. 1840 Russell County, Virginia Census.

2. 1830 Scott County, Virginia Census.

3. 1840 Russell County, Virginia Census.

4. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census.

5. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census, Electronic Transmitted.

6. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census.

7. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

8. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census.

9. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

10. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census, Electronic Transmitted.

11. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

12. 1850 Carter County Cnesus, Microfilm.

13. 1850 Scott County, Virginia Census.

14. 1860 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

15. 1850 Scott County, Virginia Census.

16. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census.

17. 1870 Wise County, Virginia, Electronic.

18. 1880 Wise County, Virginia Census, Electronic Transmitted.

19. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

20. BB Blevins.

21. 1840 Russell County, Virginia Census, Electronic Transmitted.

22. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census.

23. 1870 Wise County, Virginia.

24. 1830 Scott County Virginia, Census.

25. 1850 Russell County, Virginia Census.

26. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

27. Owen Blevins.

28. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmited.

29. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

30. 1850 Carter County Cnesus.

31. 1850 Carter County Cnesus, Microfilm.

32. 1850 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

33. 1850 Pike County, Kentucky Census, Microfilm.

34. Pike County, Kentucky Marriage Register, CD.

35. 1850 Pike County, Kentucky Census, Microfilm.

36. 1850 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

37. 1860 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

38. 1850 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

39. 1860 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

40. 1850 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

41. 1860 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

42. 1850 Scott County, Virginia Census.

43. 1860 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

44. 1870 Wise County, Virginia.

45. 1880 Wise County, Virginia Census.

46. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

47. Owen Blevins.

48. Owen Blevins, Electronic Transmitted.

49. 1850 Scott County, Virginia Census.

50. 1860 Pike County, Kentucky Census.

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I found these marriages at the Family History Center.

9/11/1848 Moses Nethercutt and Catherine Mauk

9/23/1860 Thomas J. Williams and Mary C. Mauk

at Peter C. Mauk house in presence of

Jeff B. Mauk and L. E. Taber

4/18/1867 Samuel Mauk and Nancy Grizzle

In presence of Robert Holbrook and

George Grizzle

Barb Carmichael

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ate: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:35:21 -0700

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Sender: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: Ron Moore

Subject: KY, Elliott Co, Fred and Amanda Jane (Holbrook) Mauk

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This message was received from:

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I am not certain if this has already been posted to the list so I am

putting it

up anyway. Is this the message you were looking for Mike Barker? This appears

to be your line.

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Hi, I am related to the Mauks from Olive Hill, Ky. (Elliott County). My

name is Judy Ellen Mauk. My father was Robert Mauk, deceased in 5/93. He

was one of the fifteen children of Fred and Amanda Jane (Holbrook) Mauk.

His parents were Peter and Ellen Mauk. I don't know anything about Peter and

Ellen's other children. I am very interested in finding out. I visit

Elliott County and the relatives that still live there. There are two very

old graveyards there - one on my grandfather's homestead and one that dates

back to the 1700's on what is called the "Old Mauk Place". I am interested

in learning more. Thanks for your hard work and sharing all of your

information!

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Sender: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: Ron Moore

Subject: Mauk Reunion in Kentucky

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The message below was received from Mike Barker who is a member subscibed to

this list. This is the line that descends from Frederick and Margaret

(Swartz/Black) Mock. Frederick was a son of Peter and Juliana Mauck of Toms

Brook, Virginia.

If anyone has any questions, Mike's e-mail address is:

barkerm@

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The Descendants of Samuel Mauk (Moak) and Catherine (Caty) Hoppis Mauk >

Peter Mauk Ellenor (Sparks) Mauk and Joseph Mauk, Sr. Minnine (Holbrook)

Mauk will be having a family reunion on September 13th at the New Haven

Free Will Baptist Church on Route 504 (Mauk Ridge) in Elliott County,

Ky. starting at 12:30 P.M.

Mike Barker

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:04:17 -0700

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Sender: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: Ron Moore

Subject: KY, Carter Co, Joseph Mauk,Sr.

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John Peters

Thank you for your query below. I believe you came to the right place

because we have quite a number from this line signed up to this list,

including Mike Barker who I am certain must also be descended from this

Barker line. I will let one of them answer your query and if they are not

able to, I will dig through my Carter County Mauk resources to see if I can

help you. The parents of Joseph Mauk, Sr are now known and I will let them

tell you who he connects with if you do not already have this information.

I have posted your message to MOCK-GEN-L which is our free Mock list and

discussion group. If you are interested in joining, just let me know by

e-mail and I will see that you are signed up.

There appears to be quite an active group of Mauks left in Carter County,

KY, and I have been told they hold yearly family reunions. I believe that

Mike still lives in that area and is a school principal.

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Joseph Mauk, SR. m. Sarah "Sallie" Jane Holbrook 07/11/1842 in Carter

County, KY. SARAH'S father & mother are William Randall Holbrook & Sarah

"Sallie" Spicer of Wilkes Co., NC. Sarah was born in 1821 in Wilkes Co., NC.

Joseph Mauk JR. married Susanne Barker on 10-24-1880. Susanne's father and

mother are Johnny Barker and Rose Anna Wagner of Carter County, KY.

Can anyone help me tell me who Susanne's father & mother descend from?

Many thanks,

John Peters

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 22:21:41 -0700

Reply-To: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

Sender: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: Ron Moore

Subject: Mauk Family

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Thanks for your work in establishing the Mock Family Homepage. I learned of

you from Mike Barker thru , I have misplaced his email address at

the moment. He suggested I contact you about joining the discussion group.

Most of what I have on the Mauks is from my mother telling me over the years,

and my acquantance with my grandfather, Joseph "Dink" Mauk, Jr who died in

1931 and the work of Mr. Lyon. His ancester, James K. Polk Lyon married Sarah

Catherine Mauk, my great aunt. Mr. Lyon's records on the Mauk's are told in

story form in the History of Elliott Co. Ky circa 1985-91, I don't have a

copy.

I am a rank amatuer at searching and deciding whether the postings I find are

really about my family. I have to download and read them. I often search

through lists of thousands of names watching for names significant to me, so I

am trying to learn some short cuts.

It's obvious I have no right to ask you for extensive help, so I will only say

that I would appreciate joining your Mock discussion group and hope to learn

more.

According to Mr Lyon, my family comes down as follows:

Hans Peter Mauk (Maag) b 1708 in Germany m Julianna Rhinehart

son Frederick b circa 1730 m Margaret ?

grandson Henry Mauk m ?

ggson Joseph Mauk b.11/17/1815 d.4/27/91 m Sarah Jane Holbrook

gggson Joseph Jr b 3/21/1854 d.1/1/1931 m. Susann Barker

ggggdau Lillie Alice Mauk b10/24/1902 b4/18/1990 was my mother. I have more

details than the above, but think they are unnecessary for you to tell me

where I can find more of the story. I have names of siblings in the last 4-5

generations.

Sorry this is so long, I didn't intend to burden you.

Thanks for anything you can easily tell me.

Joe Venters

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Joe

You have now been added to MOCK-GEN-L. It sounds like you are on the right

track to find your Mauk ancestors. If you run into specific problems, feel

free to bring them here and I or others subscribed will be happy to help

you, or make suggestions where you might locate certain bits of

information. I readily agree with your method of research to try to

identify all siblings in each generation since one may hold the key to

getting back another generation or two that you may not be able to locate

with your ancestor.

We have several subscribed, I know, from the line you are researching from

Carter County, KY. Mike Barker is one of them. If you are monitoring, Mike,

you might send him your e-mail address because he has misplaced it.

I would also highly recommend that you do some searching in the Mock

Archives since there have been a number of messages in the past couple of

years that have come to this list about your line of Maucks who descend

from Frederick and Margaret (Black) Mauk/Mock. Frederick was a son of Peter

and Juliana (Rinehart) Mauck who lived at Toms Brook, which is now located

in Shenandoah County, VA.

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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 13:09:59 -0400

Reply-To: "Mock, Mauck Genealogy Discussion Group"

Sender: "Mock, Mauck Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: "Ron Moore, Sr"

Subject: Fwd: KY, Carter Co, Peter Mauk

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Forwarded message:

From: rmoore@ (Ron Moore)

To: RonMoore99@

Date: 96-06-29 12:38:57 EDT

Twila, Steve, JP and Others

These are some more records from Ruth James of Cottonwood, Arizona. I am

unable to vouch for the accuracy of any of these, since I have not done any

of the primary research and am only passing on the information for what it

is worth and in hopes that others may find a connection to this family. Ruth

has never intended that her work be used as source material but only as a

working chart. I would recommend that information contained here should be

confirmed by other sources.

My personal observation in working with data she has provided on other

families, is that her work has been highly accurate but with occasional

errors. Some of her sources appear to be Nancy Moore Barnett of Portsmouth,

Scioto County, Ohio, who is descended from Joseph Mauk through his daughter

Sarah Catherine; and Philip Barker who is also descended from this Joseph

Mauk through his son William Mauk; and Mr. William Wolph who is descended

from and was researching the Peter and Juliana (Rinehart) Mauck line from

the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.

Peter Mauk

b. 14 Apr 1781 in Scott Co, VA (I personally would question this place of

birth)

d. 13 Feb 1859 in Carter Co, KY (parents stated to be Frederick and Margaret

Mauk)

m. 18 June 1818 in Scott Co, VA (I would also question the accurace of the

location)

Eleanor (Nellie) Sparks, daughter of Thomas & Rebecca Sparks of Surry Co, NC

b. 1791/1792

d. Mar 1858 at age 67

Children:

1. Sarah Jane Mauk

b. ca. 1819 in Floyd Co, VA

m. 1. John Lester

2. Cox

2. Margaret Mauk

b. 8 June 1820

m. 14 Mar 1843 in Carter Co, KY

Nelson Sparks

3. Catherine Mauk

b. ca. 1822

m. Moses Nethercutt

4. Frederick M. "Fred"

b. 26 Mar 1827

m. 1. 2 Apr 1862 in Carter Co, KY

Sarah Jane Sparks

2. Amelia Cox

5. Daniel Mauk

b. ca. 1829

m. Eliza Debord

6. Henry J. Mauk

b. 2 Sep 1831

m. 1. Narcissa Thorp

2. Lucinda Cox

7. Peter P. Mauk (I may have in error stated Peter R. Mauk in my previous

post)

b. 25 Oct 1833

d. 1 Aug 1876

m. Never married

8. Martha Mauk

m. J. R. Cox

9. Mary Jane Mauk

b. 1839

d. 16 Mar 1877

m. Martin Bare

Peter and Eleanor also raised:

1. Joseph Mauk

b. 17 Nov 1815 (Census record shows birth in VA)

d. 27 Mar 1815

m. Sarah Holbrook (Census record shows birth in NC ca. 1822)

Children:

1. Sarah Catherine m. James Lyons (This is Nancy Moore Barnett's line)

2. Samuel Mauk m. Deliha Harper

3. Peter Mauk m. Linnie White

4. William Mauk m. America Harper (I believe this is Philip Barker's

line)

5. Mary Mauk m. Solomon Debord

6. Joseph Dank Mauk m. Susan Barker

7. Amanda Mauk m. Robert Parson

8. Mary Jane Mauk m. Ancel Justice

9. Jefferson Mauk m. Lowra Rose

10. Laura Belle Mauk m. Christopher Whitt

11. Sampson Mauk m. Mary Ellen Rose

2. Peter C. Mauk

b. 17 Sep 1817 (Census record shows birth in VA)

m. Mary Perry (Census record shows birh in KY ca. 1819)

Children: (Listed in 1850 US Census)

1. Mary Mauk born 1840 in KY

2. Amanda Mauk born 1845 in KY

3. John Mauk born 1844/1846 in KY

4. Peter Mauk born 1847 in KY

5. Robert Mauk born 1849 in KY

*. Parris M. Mauk

b. 1810?

Left KY 1840/50 (not located in 1850 Census)

On the Lawrence Co, KY tax list 1828/1830.

There appears to be more uncertainity about who this Paris Mauk was or how

he was connected to the family.

I may have more detailed information on a few members of some of these

families.

One other thing, I would like to add here, is that the source for the birth

of Peter Mauk in Scott County, VA has not been stated and to me should be

questioned, since we have two other conflicting records. One that says he

was born in North Carolina and the other that says he was born in Tennessee.

I would also like to know what evidence there is that the marriage of Peter

Mauk and Eleanor Sparks took place in Scott Co, VA? Does anyone know if

Thomas and Rebecca Sparks of Surry County, NC moved up to Virginia or could

that marriage actually have taken place in North Carolina? I wonder if

someone who might have a marriage CD ROM for North Carolina and one for

Virginia and might be willing to check this.

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:49:30 -0400

Reply-To: "Mock, Mauck Genealogy Discussion Group"

Sender: "Mock, Mauck Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: "Ron Moore, Sr"

Subject: Fwd: VA, Giles County, Frederick Mauk

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From: rmoore@ (Ron Moore)

To: RonMoore99@

Date: 96-06-28 11:40:48 EDT

Twila and Steve

I also have extensive records on Joseph Mauk who was in the 1850 US Census

of Carter County, KY. This researcher, Mrs Nancy Moore Barnett was descended

from this line. In some of her records it appears she was not sure who

Joseph's father was and speculated it may have been Henry Mauk who is

supposed to have been another son of Frederick and Margaret Mauk and who was

suppsed to have been married to Hannah Sparks, sister of Eleanore (Nellie)

Sparks. She also noted that Joseph and Peter C. Mauk were both raised by

Peter and Eleanore (Nellie) Mauk of Carter County, KY.

Mrs Barnett was born in 1926 and may still be alive. I have an address for

her in about 1982 and would be happy to give it to you if you want. She

lived in Portsmouth, Ohio which interestingly is in Scioto County. In fact,

Portsmouth is the County Seat of Scioto County and she may have had that

will and Guardianship papers of Samuel, right in her "back yard" and didn't

know it. I have never corresponed with her directly. Barbara Dittig can

probably tell us if she is a member of the Mock Family Historian and on the

current mailing list.

In some of the records I have from Ruth James, Sarah Jane Mauk was the first

born child of Peter and Nellie Sparks Mauk and was born in 1819 in Floyd

County, VA, but she has a question mark after Floyd County but states this

record is in Vital Stats.(??) That can't be correct because Floyd County

was not formed until 1831 and very likely it may have been Giles County.

It is also of interest that Giles County was formed in 1806, only four years

before the 1810 Cenus where Frederick and Peter Mauk were located there,

however it was formed from several counties including Wythe, and it would

seem possible that they may not have moved, but the boundary may have

changed. Were there any Mauks/Mocks or Hoppes families still in Wythe County

by 1810?

I will try to put up more information on the family of this Peter and Nellie

(Sparks) Mauk this weekend and will include the children of Joseph Mauk

(born 17 Nov 1815 and died 27 Apr 1891) who married Sarah Holbrook. They had

11 children and I have the names of all the spouses. This may be of interest

to others researching Mauks in Kentucky.

I would like to get more evidence on this Henry Mauk whose name keeps

popping up as a brother of Peter, and who may have been married to Hannah

Sparks. Did the Sparks Genealogy, Steve, mention anything about them?

It appears that the circumstantial evidence is certainly accumulating on

this family. If we can prove that Frederick and Margaret Mauk were the

parents of Peter Mauk as is alleged by prior researchers, then this would

greatly strengthen the premise that these others noted are also their

children. When I took Geometry in High School, I recall learning a theorom

that two things equal to a third thing are equal to each other. That of

course is just plain logic. Unfortunately, although it is highly probable,

it doesn't prove that your Barbara Hoppes was a daughter of Frederick and

Margaret Mauk, unless you can show she was a sister to Samuel, Peter or

maybe Henry.

Incendetally, do you have the name of Samuel Mauk's widow? It wasn't Barbara

by any chance was it?

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John, Does the last paragraph relate to your John? Best, Barbara

-----Original Message-----

From: Carl D. Henson

To: Barbara Provence

Cc: clbundy@

Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 10:04 PM

Subject: Re: breakthrough!

>Dear Barbara and Charles,

>

>I know there are several William Hensons that served in the Union Army.

>He lived in Lawrence County, Ohio (and had for about 12 years) when the

>war started. He is supposed to be the son of Murry Henson of Amherst

>County, VA. Murry died before the war, but had several sons:

>Alexander, Charles, John and others that I don't know about. All three

>of these served in the Confederate Army, and I believe both Alexander

>and Charles died in the war. John surrendered at Gettysburg and

>switched sides (I assume to avoid going to prison). Another brother, I

>was told, deserted and I don't know his name, but he was also from

>Amherst County, VA. Another John, this one the nephew of Murry fought

>on the side of the confederacy and was with Lee at Appomattox Court

>House. He supposedly walked home barefooted after the war was over.

>His descendants still live in Amherst County. Our branch of the Hensons

>moved quite a bit, but I don't know where they were living at the time

>of the war except Lawrence County, OH and Amherst County, VA. My

>brother told me that our father told him that Wm. fought in the Civil

>War. But if so, he never applied for a pension and fathered two

>children during the war. No mention was made of it in his obituary

>either. John Henson, some relation, suspect brother to William, would

>have been in his mid-twenties in Ohio at the start of the war.

>

>I hope this helps.

>

>All the best,

>Carl

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Dear John:

Hello again, Don't feel bad I delete things all the time ,sooner or later

I'll get the hang of this computer thing(I hope)

If I can help you out with any info on the McGlones in my line or need

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Hi John

This is Rob Moore again.. I have here the first 3 generation of my tree… It shouldn’t take so long

to down load…. If you want the rest let me know…..

You can see I have a lot of unknowns, so I will take any thing you would like to give me.

It was good to here from you, I have not had a lot of luck on the net for some time…

Thanks for any info Rob Moore

Descendants of Samuel S. Cramblit

Generation No. 1

1. Samuel S.1 Cramblit was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown. He

married Elisabeth Mary Carpenter Unknown in unknown. She was born Unknown in

unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Samuel Cramblit and Elisabeth Carpenter are:

i. SEVEN SISTERS ??.

2. ii. William A. Cramblit, b. July 25, 1851, Jackson, Oh.; d. March 19, 1934, Jackson, Oh..

iii. Tom Cramblit, b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Louis Cramblit, b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

Generation No. 2

2. William A.2 Cramblit (Samuel S.1) was born July 25, 1851 in Jackson, Oh., and died

March 19, 1934 in Jackson, Oh.. He married Harriet Isabel Finn November 7, 1880 in

Jackson, Ohio, daughter of John Finn and Elizabeth ?. She was born November 5, 1861 in

unknown, and died January 19, 1935 in unknown.

Children of William Cramblit and Harriet Finn are:

i. Waleska J.3 Cramblit, b. November 12, 1881, Jackson, Oh.; d. February 9, 1965, Home of Sister Springfield Ohio; m. Alva I.

Corwin, Unknown, Columbus Ohio; b. 1887, unknown; d. February 23, 1959, Indian River Mi..

3. ii. Vesta V. Cramblit, b. September 24, 1883, Jackson, Oh.; d. June 1947, Jackson, Oh..

iii. Talma Gertrude Cramblit, b. May 28, 1889, Jackson, Oh.; d. February 8, 1969, Springfield, Ohio.

4. iv. Eugene A. Cramblit, b. March 25, 1896, Houe; d. February 3, 1917, Camp Sheridan Alabama Armed Services.

5. v. Leona Garnet Cramblit, b. October 4, 1898, Jackson, Ohio; d. May 21, 1995, Springfield, Ohio.

6. vi. Leon Darwin Cramblit, b. August 23, 1900, Jackson, Ohio; d. November 19, 1938, Jackson, Ohio.

vii. Jesse R. Cramblit, b. January 8, 1903, unknown; d. March 20, 1904, unknown.

Generation No. 3

3. Vesta V.3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 24, 1883 in Jackson,

Oh., and died June 1947 in Jackson, Oh.. She married Harry Mapes Unknown in

Jackson, Oh.. He was born October 14, 1877 in Jackson, Oh., and died December 1947 in

Jackson, Oh..

Children of Vesta Cramblit and Harry Mapes are:

7. i. Patty Louville4 Mapes, b. March 4, 1904, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

8. ii. Pauline Mapes, b. December 23, 1906, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

9. iii. Marcella Mapes, b. July 30, 1907, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Stanley Mapes, b. October 16, 1908, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown; m. Jane Jaynes, Unknown, unknown; b.

Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

v. Velma Mapes, b. February 1, 1910, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown; m. Eugene Sammons, Unknown, unknown; b.

Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

10. vi. Bernice Mapes, b. January 21, 1912, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

vii. Edward Mapes, b. August 12, 1913, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

11. viii. Doris Mapes, b. July 13, 1915, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

12. ix. Glenna Mapes, b. July 28, 1917, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

x. Doral Eugene Mapes, b. August 8, 1919, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown; m. Gertrude Landrens, Unknown, unknown;

b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

13. xi. Avinell Mapes, b. October 2, 1920, Jackson Oh.; d. September 1992, unknown.

14. xii. Majel Mapes, b. September 8, 1925, Jackson Oh..

4. Eugene A.3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born March 25, 1896 in Houe, and

died February 3, 1917 in Camp Sheridan Alabama Armed Services. He married Hazel

Gtham Unknown in Jackson, Ohio. She was born Unknown in Jackson, Ohio.

Child of Eugene Cramblit and Hazel Gtham is:

i. Eugena May4 Cramblit, b. March 1917, unknown.

5. Leona Garnet3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born October 4, 1898 in

Jackson, Ohio, and died May 21, 1995 in Springfield, Ohio. She married Joseph

Anderson May 1, 1920 in Hillsboro, Ohio. He was born June 1, 1894 in Newton, Ohio,

and died October 4, 1952 in Springfield Ohio.

Children of Leona Cramblit and Joseph Anderson are:

15. i. Joseph William4 Anderson, b. March 28, 1921, unknown.

16. ii. Betty Herriet Anderson, b. August 31, 1924, unknown.

iii. Jean Ann Anderson, b. May 17, 1926, unknown; m. Bill Leffel, Unknown, unknown; b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown,

unknown.

17. iv. Edward A. Anderson, b. January 10, 1932, unknown.

6. Leon Darwin3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 23, 1900 in Jackson, Ohio, and died November 19, 1938 in Jackson, Ohio. He married Lillian Pant July 7, 1924 in Indian River, Mi., daughter of Thomas Pant and Goldie Coatte. She was born March 22, 1907 in Charlevoix, Mi., and died August 22, 1953 in Muskegon Co. , Mi..

Children of Leon Cramblit and Lillian Pant are:

18. i. Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, b. February 22, 1925, Jackson, Oh.; d. March 22, 1989, Greenville, Mi..

ii. Glenna Maxine Cramblit, b. February 19, 1926, London Ohio; m. (1) George Pant, June 3, 1944, Elpaso, Tx.; b. December

21, 1911, Charielevoix, Mi.; d. September 17, 1991, unknown; m. (2) Cecil (Jack) Danes, March 4, 1959, White Cloud, Mi.; b.

April 13, 1915, Chinook Mantana; d. December 13, 1983, unknown.

19. iii. William Darwin Cramblit, b. February 16, 1927, London, Ohio; d. June 15, 1981, Okeechobee, Fl..

20. iv. Jesse Leroy Cramblit, b. September 1, 1928, London, Ohio.

21. v. Shirley Ann Cramblit, b. December 5, 1933, Jackson, Oh..

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John,

This message from a cousin of ours with census records on Stephen L. Tabor

may be of interest. Keep in touch. John Donohew

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From: "janice whitt"

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Subject: census reports

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:59:28 -0400

1880 Elliott Co. Census

Stephen Tabor Age- 29

Mary E. Age- 33

Charles A. Age- 8

Arminta Age- 7

Nancy Age- 5

David Age- 3

Franklin L. Age- 6/12 Born November

Fanna Goins Age 22 Divorced - works in house

1900 Elliott Co. Census

Tabor, Stephen - 2-1852 -Age 48 married 14 years

Wife) Lottie -9-1860 -Age 39

Frank 4-1880 -Age 20

George R. 6- 1882 -Age 17

Berry 4- 1884 -Age16

Harvey W. 3- 1887 - Age13

Mary 9- 1889 - Age 10

Pearl 7- 1891 - Age 8

John C. 8- 1893 - Age 6

Carroll, William Border Age 21 1- 1879

1910 Carter Co. Census

Carpenter, Vence Age 52 merchant in store

Wife) Lottie Age 50 married 6 years 5 kids, 5 living

Tabor, Pearl Age 18 single step daughter

Grayson Court House

1838-1875 Marriage Register Book

Page 315

January 5, 1871 Stephen L. Taber and Mary E. Ross at John H. Ross

in county of Carter in the presence of William A. Brown.

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Posted by Debora W. Paradise-Whitt on Mon, 27 Sep 1999, in

response to Cora Campbell, posted by John W. Grace on Sat, 25 Sep 1999

Just found out Cora was the daughter of Reuben/Ruffes and Matildia Campbell.

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:22:28 EDT

Subject: Cora Campbell

To: jwgrace@

John,

Yes!!! Tell me more. All we have on Cora is one photo with my husband (

her great-grandson) when he was two and a couple stories from the

granddaughters.

We know she married a Brickily 1st and had three daughters. Geneva "Eva"

was born in 1901 and was very young when her father was killed. Do you know

anything about this?

Cora remarried in 1905 to the Rev. Northrup Rice and had other children.

Eva married Andrew Forrest Whitt (Sr.) after his discharge (W.W.I) and

resided in Logan Co. WV till they moved to Indiana.

AndySr., a Mining Engineer for Peabody Coal and went over seas under the

Marshal Plan following W.W.II. I have a copy of the birth statement for

Eva's passport signed by her mother.

Not till the last two weeks have I been able to find any information on

her. This means a lot since I am completing a family photo album for my

step-son who is getting married on the 28th.

Thanks,

Deb

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Response

Posted by Carolyn Wilson Dyer on Wed, 29 Sep 1999, in response to

Researching Carter Co. Families, posted by Anita on Sun, 12 Sep 1999

Surname: WILSON, BARKER, BLEVINS, BOGGS, STAMPER, HUBBARD, STONE, DYER

Anita,

Hugh Boggs, b. October 25, 1801, Virginia died June 3, 1886 Lawrence County, Ky married

Hannah Blevins August 9, 1821 Floyd County, Ky. (daughter of Revolutionary Veteran James

Blevins and Hannah O. Lyons) Hannah born 1804 NC died abt. 1880 Lawrence County, Ky 9

children.

James Boggs b. 1800 Virginia died 1849 Carter County, Ky. married Francis Blevins (daughter of

James and Hannah) 1819 Floyd County, Ky. she was born 1792 Virginia, died February 1852

Carter County, Ky

I have 5 Hardin Barkers which one do you need?

Riley "Ryal" Blevins b. 1817 Virginia died abt. 1890 in Carter County, Ky..married Sarah Barker b.

1819 Wilkes County, NC died April 4, 1853 Carter County, Ky. daughter of William Barker and

Elizabeth Wheately.

Elisha Blevins son of Riley and Sarah, was born June 22, 1838 Carter County, Ky died December

28, 1918 buried Stevens Cemetery Carter County, Ky (I have seen grave) married Hannah Elizabeth

Whitt December 13, 1860, Carter County, she was born March 23, 1843 Carter County, died June

21 1889 Carter County. married # 2 Phebe Stevens b. Jan. 11, 1848 died December 10, 1929

Carter County.

Hope this will be of help.

Carolyn Wilson Dyer

Lexington, Kentucky

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:08:18 -0400

Reply-To: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

Sender: "Mock, Mauck, Mauk, Mack (Germanic) Genealogy Discussion Group"

From: Ellen Robinson

Subject: Re: Mauks of Elliot CO., KY

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Hello all,

Enclosed is my family's direct line chart coming down from Joseph Mauk Sr. and Sarah Holbrook. I hope this helps fill in some blanks in someone else's charts. Many thanks to all of you for the clues you've provided me in furthering my research down the lines of Joseph and Sarah Mauk. I'm still looking for proof of Joseph's parents and also, Sarah Holbrook's parents any more clues would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.

Ellen emrobinson@

Descendants of Joseph Sr. Mauk

Generation No. 1

1. JOSEPH SR.4 MAUK (SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 17 November 1815, and died 27 April 1891 in Open Fork, Carter CO, KY. He married SARAH HOLBROOK 11 July 1842 in Carter CO, KY.

Notes for JOSEPH SR. MAUK:

When Joseph and Sarah Mauk married they settled and raised their family near the Little Fork area of Elliot CO, KY.

1860 Bruin, Carter CO, KY census shows Joseph Mauk as Dwelling #1337 Family #1225, page 187

Jos 44 M Farmer 1200 Value Real Estate 625 Value Pers Estate Born VA; Sarah 39 F Housekeeper Born NC; Samuel 18 M Farmhand Born NC; Peter 15 M Farmhand Born KY; William 13 M Born KY; Mary F 11 F Born KY; Catherine 8 F Born KY; Jane 6 F Born KY; Joseph 5 M Born KY; Amanda 1 F Born KY.

1880 Elliot CO, KY census shows Joseph Mauk as Family #59 in Mocassin Pct.

Joseph 64 M Farmer VA VA VA; Sally 59 M Wife Keeping House NC NC NC; Joseph 24 Son Works on Farm KY VA NC; Amanda 21 Dau KY VA NC; Jefferson D. 16 Son Works on Farm KY VA NC; Laura B. 13 Dau KY VA NC; Sampson 10 Son Works on Farm KY VA NC.

Joseph Mauk Sr. and his wife Sarah Holbrook Mauk's birth and death dates are from the History of Elliot CO., Volume ll, page 30. They are both buried in the Mauk cemetery, on Open Fork Road, Elliot CO., KY. "Cox and His Kin", pages 76-77. "The History of Elliot County, KY

Notes for SARAH HOLBROOK:

Death date from WFT Vol. 5 Pedigree #1234, 12 July 1997. Marriage Notes for JOSEPH MAUK and SARAH HOLBROOK: Marriage found in Carter County Courthouse, Grayson, KY. Marriage Register Book 1838-1875 page 13. They were married by Daniel Carroll.

Children of JOSEPH MAUK and SARAH HOLBROOK are:

i. SAMUEL5 MAUK, b. 13 April 1842, Elliot CO, KY; d. 31 July 1917; m. DORCUS DELILAH HARPER, 1870.

Notes for SAMUEL MAUK:

1910 Elliot CO., KY census, Pct #5, #93. Records published in the Olive Hill Times. "The History of Elliot CO., KY", "Cox and His Kin"

ii. PETER COMMODORE MAUK, b. Abt. 1845; m. LINNIE WHITT.

Notes for PETER COMMODORE MAUK:

Served as Sheriff of Carter CO, KY.

2. iii. WILLIAM MAUK, b. 17 July 1846, Open Fork, Carter CO, KY; d. 29 February 1916, Elliot CO, KY.

iv. MARY FRANCES MAUK, b. 04 September 1848; d. 11 March 1919; m. SOLOMON DEBORD, 08 February 1866, Carter CO, KY.

Marriage Notes for MARY MAUK and SOLOMON DEBORD:

LDS records show this marriage date.

v. SARAH CATHERINE MAUK, b. 1852; m. JAMES POLK LYON.

vi. MARTHA JANE MAUK, b. Abt. 1854; m. ANCEL JUSTICE, 25 December 1876, Elliot CO, KY.

Marriage Notes for MARTHA MAUK and ANCEL JUSTICE:

LDS records show this marriage date.

vii. JOSEPH JR. "DINK" MAUK, b. 20 March 1854, Little Fork, Elliot CO, KY; d. January 1931; m. (1) SUSAN ANN BARKER; m. (2) ELIZABETH "LIZZIE" STEVENSON.

Notes for JOSEPH JR. "DINK" MAUK:

1910 Elliot CO., KY census, Pct #5, #19. "Cox and His Kin", "The History of Elliot County, KY".

Notes for SUSAN ANN BARKER:

Birth and death dates from the History of Elliot CO., Volume II, Page 30. She is buried in the Mauk cemetery on Open Fork Road, Elliot CO., KY.

viii. JOHN B. MAUK, b. 23 November 1857, Carter CO, KY; d. 20 May 1858, Carter CO, KY.

Notes for JOHN B. MAUK:

From WFT Vol. 5, Pedigree #1234, 12 July 1997.

ix. AMANDA MAUK, b. 23 March 1859; d. 22 April 1937, Elliot CO, KY; m. ROBERT PARSONS.

x. JEFFERSON DAVIS MAUK, b. 10 March 1864, Carter CO, KY; d. 09 February 1932, Carter CO, KY; m. LAURA JANE ROSE.

xi. LAURA BELLE MAUK, b. Abt. 1866; m. CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WHITT.

xii. SAMPSON S. MAUK, b. 1869, Carter CO, KY; d. 1936, Carter CO, KY; m. MARY ELLEN ROSE, Abt. 1900.

Notes for SAMPSON S. MAUK:

1910 Elliot CO., KY, census, Pct#5, #74. "Cox and His Kin" page 77-78.

Generation No. 2

2. WILLIAM5 MAUK (JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 17 July 1846 in Open Fork, Carter CO, KY, and died 29 February 1916 in Elliot CO, KY. He married MARY AMERICA "MECK" HARPER 19 August 1869 in Elliot CO, KY, daughter of ALLEN HARPER and ELIZABETH BOGGS.

Notes for WILLIAM MAUK:

Records published by the Olive Hill Times. Conversations with relatives from Gimlet, Elliot CO., KY. "Cox and His Kin", "The History of Elliot County, KY". Buried in Bill Mauk Cemetery, Little Caney, Grover Flannery Farm.

1900 Elliot CO, KY census Moccasin Pct Family #151.

William Mauk Head WM Jul 1865 44 M 30 KY KY KY Farmer; America Wife WF Jun 1846 53 M 30 11 8 KY VA VA; Emazilla Dau WF Oct 1885 14 S KY KY KY; Lily Ellen Dau WF Jul 1890 9 S KY KY KY; Carroll Sarah Dau WF Aug 1876 24 M 4 2 2 KY KY KY; Clark S-L WM 1875 25 M 4 KY KY KY Farm Laborer; Lucy Esther GDau WF Aug 1897 3 S KY KY KY; Charles GSon WM Dec 1898 2 S KY KY KY.

More About WILLIAM MAUK:

Cause of Death: Chronic Intestitial Nephretis and Kidney disease from death cert. #4393.

Notes for MARY AMERICA "MECK" HARPER:

Buried by her husband's side Bill Mauk Cemetery, Little Caney, Grover Flannery Farm, Elliot CO, KY.

More About MARY AMERICA "MECK" HARPER:

Cause of Death: Angina Pectoris from death cert. #5433.

Marriage Notes for WILLIAM MAUK and MARY HARPER:

Marriage date from the 1870 Elliot CO, KY census. Exact date from Mike Barker, also descendant of Joseph and Sarah Holbrook Mauk 8 September 1999.

Children of WILLIAM MAUK and MARY HARPER are:

i. WILLIAM F.6 MAUK.

Notes for WILLIAM F. MAUK:

"Cox and His Kin", shows William F. Mauk born and died the same day, date unknown.

ii. AMANDA MAUK, b. 26 July 1870; m. ASHBY SPARKS.

iii. CLARISSA MAUK, b. 27 February 1872; m. ELIHU BARKER.

iv. LANFRED "LAN" MAUK, b. 20 October 1873; m. MARY ANN CARROLL.

v. SARAH E. MAUK, b. 20 July 1875; m. ZION MCDOWELL.

3. vi. SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT" MAUK, b. 19 August 1876, Stark, Elliot CO, KY; d. 28 April 1950, Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY.

vii. MARY LILE MAUK, b. 11 September 1877; d. 21 December 1950, Elliot CO, KY; m. ZION MCDOWELL.

Notes for MARY LILE MAUK:

Also known as Mary D. according to Mike Barker 8 Sept 1999. Mary is buried in the Bill Mauk Cemetery on Little Caney, Elliot CO., KY. Per Mike Barker.

Notes for ZION MCDOWELL:

Buried by the side of his wife Mary Lile Mauk at the Bill Mauk Cemetery.

viii. WILLIAM THOMAS "TOM" MAUK, b. 10 October 1879; m. (1) LAVERNE PARSONS; m. (2) MARY BELLE HOLBROOK, 25 June 1905, Elliot CO, KY.

Notes for LAVERNE PARSONS:

Birth and death dates from the History of Elliot CO., Volume II, page 30. Buried in the Bill Mauk cemetery, Grover Flannery Road, Elliot CO., KY.

Notes for MARY BELLE HOLBROOK:

Also known as Belle Holbrooks per Mike Barker.

Marriage Notes for WILLIAM MAUK and MARY HOLBROOK:

From the diary of J.W. Kegley as listed in "The History of Elliot County, KY" Vol. II page 22.

ix. JAMES MAUK, b. 18 October 1881; d. 25 August 1895, Elliot CO, KY.

Notes for JAMES MAUK:

Buried in the Bill Mauk cemetery, on Grover Flannery Road, Elliot CO., KY, from the History of Elliot CO., Volume II, page 30. Birth date listed as 13 Oct 1881 by Mike Barker.

x. EMMA ZILLA MAUK, b. 23 April 1885; d. 1934; m. JERRY LEWIS, Aft. 1902.

Notes for EMMA ZILLA MAUK:

According to 1900 Elliot CO, KY census. Birth date also listed as 18 Oct 1885 according to Mike Barker 8 Sept 1999. Emma was the first cousin of Jerry's first wife Emma Elizabeth Green, according to MIke Lewis.

Notes for JERRY LEWIS:

Buried on his home farm on Route 32 on Brown Ridge, Elliot CO., KY, according to Mike Barker.

xi. JULIA MAY MAUK, b. 26 July 1888; d. 22 August 1895.

Notes for JULIA MAY MAUK:

"Cox and His Kin" says Julia was born and died the same day. Julia is buried in the Bill Mauk Cemetery, per Mike Barker.

xii. LILLIE ELLEN MAUK, b. 23 April 1891; d. 19 February 1911, Elliot CO, KY; m. JOHN L. B. BARKER.

Notes for LILLIE ELLEN MAUK:

Birth and death dates from the History of Elliot CO., Volume II, page 30. Buried by the side of her Mother, in the Bill Mauk cemetery, Grover Flannery Road, Elliot CO., KY.

xiii. ROSA BELLE MAUK, b. 18 November 1893; d. 16 July 1895.

Notes for ROSA BELLE MAUK:

Buried in the Bill Mauk Cemetery, per Mike Barker.

Generation No. 3

3. SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK (WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 19 August 1876 in Stark, Elliot CO, KY, and died 28 April 1950 in Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY. She married CLARK CARROLL, son of DAVE CARROLL and SIRENA ADKINS.

More About SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT" MAUK:

Cause of Death: Cardiac Hypertension, Breast cancer, Heart Disease Death Cert # 50-17804

More About CLARK CARROLL:

Cause of Death: Tuberculosis Death Cert # 22992

Children of SARAH MAUK and CLARK CARROLL are:

4. i. LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, b. 19 August 1896, Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY; d. 08 January 1974, Ironton, Lawrence CO, KY.

5. ii. CHARLES "CHARLIE" CARROLL, b. 24 December 1899, Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY; d. 27 November 1967, Lexington, KY.

6. iii. WILLIE "DEE" CARROLL, b. 23 April 1901, Elliot CO, KY; d. 19 August 1926.

iv. ARCHIE CARROLL, b. 23 April 1903; d. 1919.

7. v. IDA GLADYS CARROLL, b. 16 July 1906, Elliot CO, KY; d. 26 September 1973.

8. vi. MARTIN CARROLL, b. 25 December 1909, Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY; d. 10 November 1969, Morehead, KY.

9. vii. RICHIE CARROLL, b. 06 February 1912, Stark, Elliot CO, KY; d. 20 April 1982, Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY.

10. viii. DORTHA "DOROTHY" CARROLL, b. 30 June 1915, Stark, Elliot CO, KY; d. 31 August 1995, Ironton, Lawrence CO, KY.

Generation No. 4

4. LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 19 August 1896 in Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY, and died 08 January 1974 in Ironton, Lawrence CO, KY. She married CHARLES EDWARD "ED" WHITT 30 December 1916 in Elliot CO, KY, son of ROBERT WHITT and ELLEN WHITT.

More About LUCY ESTHER CARROLL:

Cause of Death: Breast cancer and heart disease. State File # 003896

Notes for CHARLES EDWARD "ED" WHITT:

Buried Sunset Gardens, Wheelersburg, Scioto CO, Ohio, in the Resurrection Section, on the right going in the cemetery, and towards the top. Park in front of the big trees and walk back towards the fence.

More About CHARLES EDWARD "ED" WHITT:

Cause of Death: Cancer of the colon State file # 011935

Children of LUCY CARROLL and CHARLES WHITT are:

i. MADGE8 WHITT, b. 21 February 1919, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY; d. 19 February 1920, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY.

Notes for MADGE WHITT:

Buried in the Edmund Whitt Cemetery off Route 504 at the Stanley Cox farm Elliot County, KY. We visited in 1994.

ii. MARY WHITT, b. 23 October 1921, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY; d. 23 October 1921, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY.

Notes for MARY WHITT:

Buried in the Edmund Whitt Cemetery.

11. iii. ELIZABETH ELLEN WHITT.

12. iv. RUBY EVELYN WHITT, b. 31 December 1924, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY; d. 22 October 1997, Ironton, Lawrence CO, KY.

v. CLAUDE WHITT, b. 21 June 1927, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY; d. 26 June 1929, Ibex, Elliot CO, KY.

Notes for CLAUDE WHITT:

Buried in the Edmund Whitt Cemetery.

13. vi. JAMES LOWELL WHITT.

14. vii. CHARLES CLINTON WHITT.

5. CHARLES "CHARLIE"7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 24 December 1899 in Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY, and died 27 November 1967 in Lexington, KY. He married LIZZIE THORNSBERRY.

Notes for CHARLES "CHARLIE" CARROLL:

Information from tombstones at Carroll cemetery off route 504. Take dirt road right before Mcfarland house at top of hill. Also from Charlie's obituary, I got from Uncle Lowell Whitt, of Ironton, OH.

Children of CHARLES CARROLL and LIZZIE THORNSBERRY are:

i. NONA8 CARROLL, m. MR. HURLEY.

ii. VIRGIE CARROLL, m. MR. CROCKETT.

iii. NETTIE CARROLL, m. MR. COLLEY.

iv. DAISY CARROLL.

v. ZION CARROLL.

vi. LONNIE CARROLL.

vii. DORWOOD CARROLL.

viii. TOMMY CARROLL.

6. WILLIE "DEE"7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 23 April 1901 in Elliot CO, KY, and died 19 August 1926. He married ETTA BAER.

Child of WILLIE CARROLL and ETTA BAER is:

i. CRYSTAL8 CARROLL, b. 30 August 1926, Elliot CO, KY; d. 06 July 1971.

7. IDA GLADYS7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 16 July 1906 in Elliot CO, KY, and died 26 September 1973. She married WILLIE SPARKS, son of BENTON SPARKS and AMANDA KEGLEY.

Notes for IDA GLADYS CARROLL:

Ida Gladys Carroll Sparks is buried in the Clark and Bett Mauk Carroll cemetery off KY Route 504, farm now owned by Larry Rose 1994.

Notes for WILLIE SPARKS:

Information on Willie and his parents from Mike Barker.

Buried in the Adkins cemetery near Olive Hill, KY according to Mike Barker 9-7-99.

Children of IDA CARROLL and WILLIE SPARKS are:

i. ESTHER8 SPARKS.

ii. HELEN SPARKS.

iii. GLEN SPARKS.

iv. PETER SPARKS.

v. GAY SPARKS.

vi. ELLIE SPARKS.

vii. NOONA SPARKS.

8. MARTIN7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 25 December 1909 in Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY, and died 10 November 1969 in Morehead, KY. He married BESS LEMASTERS 30 January 1933 in Elliot CO, KY.

Notes for MARTIN CARROLL:

Information from tombstones at Carroll cemetery off route 504. Also from obituary from Uncle Lowell Whitt, Ironton, Ohio.

Marriage Notes for MARTIN CARROLL and BESS LEMASTERS:

Marriage date from the diary of J.W. Kegley as found in the History of Elliot CO, KY book.

Children of MARTIN CARROLL and BESS LEMASTERS are:

i. BETTY8 CARROLL, m. MR. WALKER.

ii. EVELYN CARROLL.

9. RICHIE7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 06 February 1912 in Stark, Elliot CO, KY, and died 20 April 1982 in Gimlet, Elliot CO, KY. He married SHIRLEY LEADINGHAM.

Notes for RICHIE CARROLL:

Information from funeral information sheet from Uncle Lowell Whitt, Ironton, Ohio.

Children of RICHIE CARROLL and SHIRLEY LEADINGHAM are:

i. ALAN8 CARROLL.

ii. HILLARD CARROLL.

iii. JUANITA CARROLL, m. MR. BRICKLEY.

iv. GLORA ROSE CARROLL, m. MR. MIDDLETON.

10. DORTHA "DOROTHY"7 CARROLL (SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 30 June 1915 in Stark, Elliot CO, KY, and died 31 August 1995 in Ironton, Lawrence CO, KY. She married (1) CHARLES A. MCCLELLAND. She married (2) CHARLES A. MARTIN JR..

Child of DORTHA CARROLL and CHARLES MCCLELLAND is:

i. JOHN PAUL8 MCCLELLAND, b. 26 October 1933, Elliot CO, KY; d. 26 February 1981; m. (1) BARBARA BLANTON; m. (2)

Generation No. 5

11. ELIZABETH ELLEN8 WHITT (LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). She married RAYMOND EDOUARD GODDU, son of ANTONIO GODDU and EDWINA SAMSON.

Children of ELIZABETH WHITT and RAYMOND GODDU are:

i. MICHAEL EDWARD9 GODDU, b. 05 March 1946, Lake Forest, Lake CO, IL; d. 14 September 1996, Myrtle Beach, Horry CO, SC.

More About MICHAEL EDWARD GODDU:

Cause of Death: Heart disease

15. ii. DAVID ANTHONY GODDU.

16. iii. ELLEN MARIE GODDU.

iv. RICHARD ALLEN GODDU, m. SHEILA MCCASLAND.

v. ELIZABETH ANN GODDU.

12. RUBY EVELYN8 WHITT (LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1) was born 31 December 1924 in Ibex, Elliot CO, KY, and died 22 October 1997 in Ironton, Lawrence CO, KY. She married (1) C. JOHN BRANNIGAN. She married (2) CLAUDE BROOKS. She married (3) MR. MOBLEY. She married (4) CLAUDE BROOKS. She married (5) MR. FARR. She married (6) MR. WAIT.

Notes for RUBY EVELYN WHITT:

Buried in Hanging Rock Cemetery, Ironton, OH.

Child of RUBY WHITT and CLAUDE BROOKS is:

i. JAMES EDWARD9 BROOKS.

Child of RUBY WHITT and MR. MOBLEY is:

ii. ORVILLE JASON9 MOBLEY.

Child of RUBY WHITT and CLAUDE BROOKS is:

iii. CLINTON DEE9 BROOKS.

13. JAMES LOWELL8 WHITT (LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). He married ELIZABETH "SIS" PIERCE, daughter of EDMUND PIERCE and ELIZABETH.

Children of JAMES WHITT and ELIZABETH PIERCE are:

17. i. JAMES "KEITH"9 WHITT.

18. ii. CONNIE SUE WHITT.

14. CHARLES CLINTON8 WHITT (LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). He married MARLENE ROSE.

Children of CHARLES WHITT and MARLENE ROSE are:

19. i. GEORGIAN9 WHITT.

20. ii. KATHY JO WHITT.

iii. EDWARD WHITT.

Generation No. 6

15. DAVID ANTHONY9 GODDU (ELIZABETH ELLEN8 WHITT, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). He married (1) MARGARET "PEG" HANNA. He married (2) DAWN KAY COX, daughter of DON COX and MARY.

Children of DAVID GODDU and MARGARET HANNA are:

i. DAVID JAMES10 GODDU.

ii. LISA MARIE GODDU.

Children of DAVID GODDU and DAWN COX are:

iii. BRENT ANTHONY10 GODDU.

iv. BLAKE ANDREW GODDU.

16. ELLEN MARIE9 GODDU (ELIZABETH ELLEN8 WHITT, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). She married CHRIS JOHN ROBINSON, son of GEORGE ROBINSON and MARY MAIER.

Child of ELLEN GODDU and CHRIS ROBINSON is:

i. KEVIN ALAN10 ROBINSON.

17. JAMES "KEITH"9 WHITT (JAMES LOWELL8, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). He married ELIZABETH JEAN "LIBBY" MONNIG, daughter of OTTO MONNIG and MARTHA SHERMAN.

Children of JAMES WHITT and ELIZABETH MONNIG are:

i. JEANETTE10 WHITT.

ii. SARAH BETH WHITT.

18. CONNIE SUE9 WHITT (JAMES LOWELL8, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). She married (1) MIKE LEWIS. She married (2) BRAD MCCORMICK.

Child of CONNIE WHITT and MIKE LEWIS is:

21. i. MIKE10 LEWIS.

Child of CONNIE WHITT and BRAD MCCORMICK is:

ii. CHAD10 MCCORMICK.

19. GEORGIAN9 WHITT (CHARLES CLINTON8, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). She married CLARK KENT HUGHES.

Child of GEORGIAN WHITT and CLARK HUGHES is:

i. LINDA MARLENE LEWIS10 HUGHES.

20. KATHY JO9 WHITT (CHARLES CLINTON8, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). She married (1) JEFFREY LYNN SANDERS. She married (2) CARL LEE FOUT.

Children of KATHY WHITT and JEFFREY SANDERS are:

i. CHRISTOPHER SCOTT10 SANDERS.

ii. MATTHEW TYLER SANDERS.

Generation No. 7

21. MIKE10 LEWIS (CONNIE SUE9 WHITT, JAMES LOWELL8, LUCY ESTHER7 CARROLL, SARAH ELIZABETH "BETT"6 MAUK, WILLIAM5, JOSEPH SR.4, SAMUEL MOAK MOCK3, FREDERICK2, HANSPETER1). He married SANDY GOSSLIN.

Children of MIKE LEWIS and SANDY GOSSLIN are:

i. CALEB MICHAEL11 LEWIS.

ii. MICHA JANELLE LEWIS.

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I have some information for the Grizzels. I kind of glanced over it. I

know who you are talking about. Right now I don't have time to go into

detail. I'm working on the Carter Co History Book trying to help get

together the material so we can get it to the publisher.

I have got to mention this to you. I had a great Aunt Margaret Porter

who married Lafayette Grizzell a brother to George. They left Ky. in the

1880's went to Missouri their children or most of them went to Los

Angeles. I have been trying to locate them. They were Lucy Grizzel

married Ike Reed no children now deceased, Mary Grizzll married Will

Gates, no children. Ellen Grizzll I think she married a Robinson not

sure. There was Rosemary don't know what happened to her and they

had a son William. I have gone into and entered

Grizzell into the search box and they have no Grizzells. I have filled out

the form to start a Grizzell forum but I have not gotten any results

would you do the same thing maybe more people request it then they

will let us have a Grizzell Forum. Could you help me with this. If you do

not hear from me within the next 2 wk. please e-mail me again to

remind me.

Please keep in touch. They are some of the Grizzell family still living

here in Grayson and I will talk to some of them if I need to I see them

occasionally and we always get into a conversation concerning the

Grizzells. I have a picture of John and Cynthia some place. That might

be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Keep in contact.

Eleanor McDavid Brewster

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John,

Yes George and Mary are my gg grandparents. Are we getting to be

cousins or what. This gets better all the time. The Internet sure can put

these families in contact with each other. You are right about the children

of Lafe and Margaret. I did not have the sheet in front of me. I have some

pictures I will send later of Aunt Margarets daughters. They used to come

back to Ky. every year as long as Grandma was living to visit her as long as

she lived Grandma Ellen and Aunt Mary were the last to die. Grandma's name

was Eliza Ellen Porter. Eliza E. Grizzell was Eliza Ellen and they called

her Ellen also.

Got to go to take one of the grandchildren to cheerleading practice.

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John,

Its good to hear from another cousin. Thank you for bringing these questions to my

attention, I always welcome any questions and corrections to my work. Yes, I posted

by mistake the uncorrected version of my family line. Please accept my apologies for

this error (though I have been lucky to connect with a few cousins searching out the

corrections). Yes, both Sarahs are one in the same, that was an input error (working

too late at night). As for the census data, yes, Clark was my grgrandfather Clark

Carroll, son in law of William Mauk . "Bett" and Clark were living with her parents at

the time of the census, along with their two children; Lucy Esther, my grandmother,

and her brother Charles.

The children of William and Mary America "Meck" Harper are as follows:

1. William F. Mauk "Cox and His Kin" show him being born and died the same day,

but don't list the date.

2. Amanda Mauk, b.26 July 1870, md Ashby Sparks

3. Clarissa Mauk, b.27 February 1872, md Elihu Barker

4. Lanfred "Lan" Mauk, b. 20 October 1873, md Mary Ann Carroll

5. Rebecca Sarah Elizabeth "Bett" Mauk, b. 19 August 1876, Stark, Elliot CO., KY;

d. 28 April 1950, Gimlet, Elliot CO., KY; md Abt. 1895, to Clark Carroll

6. Mary Lile Mauk, b. 11 September 1877, d. 21 December 1950, Elliot CO., KY; md

Zion McDowell

7. William Thomas "Tom" Mauk, b. 10 October 1879, md 1 Laverne Parsons; md 2

Mary Belle Holbrook 25 June 1905

8. James Mauk, b. 18 October 1881, d. 25 August 1895, Elliot CO., KY

9. Emma Zilla Mauk, b. 23 April 1885, d. 1934, md Jerry Lewis

10. Julia May Mauk, b. 26 July 1888, d. 22 August 1895

11. Lillie Ellen Mauk, b. 23 April 1891, d. 19 February 1911, Elliot CO., KY; md John L.

B. Barker

12. Rosa Belle Mauk, b. 18 November 1893, d. 16 July 1895

Mary America "Meck" Harper died on 9 February 1919, in Elliot CO., KY according to

her death certificate.

I hope these corrections will help answer your questions, and again please accept my

apologies for the errors.

Do you have anything on Joseph Mauk's wife, Sarah Holbrook's line? I'm still trying

to find her parents and siblings, so any information on her line would be appreciated.

Who is your Mother and who were her parents? It's always nice to know where we all

fit into the Mauk line. Again, thanks for getting in touch. Have a great day!

Ellen

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:35:11 -0400

Dear John,

In a search on the name Cramblit on Rootsweb, I found your entry. My wife's

maternal/maternal great grandfather was Louis (or Lewis) Cramblit. He was

born in Jackson County, Ohio in 1840 and died in Union Furnace, Ohio in 1922

I believe. I am very excited about the possiblity of verifying what is

currently all oral tradition about Louis.

We have pictures of Louis. He was a civil war soldier and is also said to

have been 1/2 Native American. The pictures make this quite obvious and it

is undoubtedly true. My wife's mother, who passed away about 18 months ago,

remembered him vividly as a girl. She remembers that she sensed, as a

child, that he was very quiet, gruff and reclusive in his old age. She also

remembers that he could do the Indian "knee walk" (legs 'pretzeled' together

in Yoga fashion and able to walk across the floor). I am able to do this as

well, since I've inherited some Native traits from three Native ancestors

myself.

My wife and I have always been very curious about Louis's Native parent and

what the story was there. We've wondered if he may have been from the

Remnant Shawnees in that part of Ohio.

I know that in my PAF file I have the information about this family which I

obtained orally from my late mother-in-law, Maryellen (LaGore) Elder.

I'm 99% sure we have a connection here.

Bob & Cathy Smith

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:59:00 -0400

John,

I will attempt to send you a GEDcom file as a descendency chart of Lewis

Cramblit. I'll try it momentarily and see what success I have - so if it

doesn't come tonight, I'll try it again later in the week or weekend.

I will contact Lisa. Thanks.

In three separate e-mails following this I am attaching 3 photographs. The

first will be a tintype of Lewis around the time of the Civil War. The

second will be a much later picture of him in old age with a sister "Jetta"

(pronounced Jettie by the family). It seems as if Jetta may have been a

nickname (?). The third photo will be of Marjorie Dolly, Lewis's wife. I

am sending them separately so that download time will be reduced. They are

in .jpg format.

I think you would also be interested in knowing that we have several

artifacts from Samuel Smyley Cramblit's shoemaker trade handed down through

Mary Annis and Maryellen to Cathy. We have a wooden shoe form - a woman's

or child's size. We also have a cast iron boot form on a stand. We also

have a shoemaker's hammer. I think I mentioned before that we have the bed

Lewis was reputedly born on in 1840 and definitely died on in 1922.

The pictures will follow.

Bob Smith

Robert J Smith

Phone: 419-352-1335

1215 Charles St,

Bowling Green OH 43402-3512

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:53:01 EDT

Subject: Ogle family name

To: jwgrace@

My gr.gr.grandmother was a Ruth Ogle Fitzpatrick. She was Ruth Ogle and

married John Fitzpatrick. One of their sons was an Adam Fitzpatrick.Adam

was

born 8-11-1844. He died Sept.10,1913. Are we talking about the same Ruth

Ogle? We know nothing about her at all. Ruth and John's names are on

Adam's

death certificate. Any help along these lines would help us. Thanks

Roger

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Subject: Thank You!!!!

Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:57:17 -0400

Thank you John so much for the picture. I'm feel sure that the picture is of

Boss, Amanda, Avanelle and Vivian (standing). Boss looks so much like my

Dad

and my Grandfather in his younger days. Boss resembles the Newman side of

the

family. And believe it or not I have a pic of myself at about the same age as

Vivian in the pic and like Vivian I had short black hair and I look so much like

her. I'm really amazed and thankful for the pic. I'm so glad that you were

able to get through to Avanelle. I've written to her and several of the family

have tried checking on her from time to time without response. You're right

that Vivian was the genealogist. She was a member of the Eastern Ky. Gen

Society for many years. Based on their ages, I would agree that the pic was

taken cir 1912.

I know several members of Maude Burnett's grandchildren. Maude was Boss's 3rd

wife. Although they would be Boss' step grandchildren some of the older ones do

remember Boss. I will try to show the pic to them and see if they can also

make an identification.

I wish I could tell you that I have additional info on the Ross family for you,

but unfortunately I haven't progressed any further with that line. If I find

anything I will gladly share it with you. Please let me know if you are able to

make contact with Avanelle again.

Again, thank you so much!

God Bless!

Sherry J. Lowe

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Posted by Carolyn Wilson Dyer on Wed, 29 Sep 1999, in response to

Researching Carter Co. Families, posted by Anita on Sun, 12 Sep 1999

Surname: WILSON, BARKER, BLEVINS, BOGGS, STAMPER, HUBBARD, STONE, DYER

Anita,

Hugh Boggs, b. October 25, 1801, Virginia died June 3, 1886 Lawrence County, Ky married Hannah

Blevins August 9, 1821 Floyd County, Ky. (daughter of Revolutionary Veteran James Blevins and

Hannah O. Lyons) Hannah born 1804 NC died abt. 1880 Lawrence County, Ky 9 children.

James Boggs b. 1800 Virginia died 1849 Carter County, Ky. married Francis Blevins (daughter of

James and Hannah) 1819 Floyd County, Ky. she was born 1792 Virginia, died February 1852 Carter

County, Ky

I have 5 Hardin Barkers which one do you need?

Riley "Ryal" Blevins b. 1817 Virginia died abt. 1890 in Carter County, Ky..married Sarah Barker b.

1819 Wilkes County, NC died April 4, 1853 Carter County, Ky. daughter of William Barker and

Elizabeth Wheately.

Elisha Blevins son of Riley and Sarah, was born June 22, 1838 Carter County, Ky died December 28,

1918 buried Stevens Cemetery Carter County, Ky (I have seen grave) married Hannah Elizabeth Whitt

December 13, 1860, Carter County, she was born March 23, 1843 Carter County, died June 21 1889

Carter County. married # 2 Phebe Stevens b. Jan. 11, 1848 died December 10, 1929 Carter County.

Hope this will be of help.

Carolyn Wilson Dyer

Lexington, Kentucky

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:57:27 -0500

John,

John Armstrong was born 4 March 1811 in Virginia, died 22 February

1886 and is buried at the Pleasant Valley Cemetery about two or three

miles this side of Olive Hill. He and Lucy lived at Cory, Ky. near

Pleasant Valley and Olive Hill they moved there from Deer Creek about

2 miles from where I live.

He is buried beside Lucy. Her tombstone has broken and buried in the

ground but his is in fair shape and standing. I have a photo and could

scan it and send you a copy , but finding it could be a problem. I have a

way of not being able to find things when I need them.

I am involved in Genealogy up to my neck therefore I can't keep up with

things. Sorry. If you need to email me at:

eleanorb@delta.kcc.edu

Eleanor McDavid Brewster

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Re: Melinda(Eliza) Kitchen/Wm. Watson

Posted by: Eleanor McDavid Brewster

Date: November 11, 1999 at 21:09:48

In Reply to: Melinda(Eliza) Kitchen/Wm. Watson by Michele

Proctor

Michele,

I live in Carter Co. Ky. and have some material for this family. Let me know what you need.

John Armstrong married Lucinda "Lucy" McDavid

and William "Billie" Watson did live in Ky. Carter co. but I believe after Elliott Co. was developed in

1868 he was in Elliott co. I know some of the Watsons and the Kitchens and McDavid's were very

good friends. All of these families have intermarried.

John Armstrong married Eliza Jane Green 31 December 1829 in Scott Co Va. had children:

James Haskell and Scenia.

Eliza Jane died John then married Lucy McDavid.

James Haskell "Hike" married Eliza Jane Watson.

Scenia married George Wilhoit.

John and Lucy had 10 children; 7 girls and 3 boys.

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:01:38 -0500

Subject: Charles A Greene

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Mr. Grace,

I noted on the Jackson County Roots Web site that you are researching the

Greene Family Surname there. I do not wish to be presumptuous but

would like to ask a favour of your time. Could you see if you have

information on Charles Greene?

If you can check, this is the only real information gathered, it is concerning

his sons William James (My wifes Grandfather) and Robert A.

William shows Jackson, Ohio on April 1st 1892 as his birth, his Mother

is Arilda Davis. Further information found on Williams Obituary of 10-

31-1970 listed two half sisters, Wilma Wilmenger and Edna Wall as

living in Columbus Ohio. Plus a half brother Charles Greene of Jackson

Ohio. Robert A Greene resided local to William in Springfield Ohio and

his birthdate is 6-3-1894 also in Jackson, Ohio.

To summarize what I know of the family of Charles Greene in Jackson,

Ohio

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Charles (A?) Greene {Middle Initial Uncertain}

Wife: Arilda Davis

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Children:

William James Greene

Born: April 1st, 1892 in Jackson, Ohio

Robert A Greene

Born: June 3rd, 1894 in Jackson, Ohio

Annie Greene

Born: Unknown

Maggie Greene

Born: Unknown

Other Children of uncertain relation to Charles,

Listed as Half Brothers and Sisters to William:

Wilma Wilmenger

Born: Unknown

Edna Wall

Born: Unknown

Charles Greene

Born: Unknown Listed only as "in Jackson"

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Thank you for taking the time to read this message, I do hope you can

spare the time to check your data for me on this. If not, I do

understand. If so, I would happily repay this with additional information

on Charles Decendants if it interests you. Or any information in my area

I can gather in your quest. At any and all outcomes, Thank you very

much.

Chris Heaton

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Posted by: Sherry Parks cheroke7@

Date: May 19, 1998 at 08:42:30

I am seeking information about HUGH ROSS, he was first married to MARGARET WILLIAMS in

Ky. they had four children- Robert, Martha E.(Tolle), William, Damarcus (Bolin, Piatt); Margaret

died in the spring of 1863. HUGH ROSS married 2nd to SARAH TAYLOR to them were born -

John Harvey, Marion L., Charles Bruce, Sarah Jane ( HAYSLIP), Mary E.

(Patton,Cooper),Franklin Pierce.

HUGH ROSS was listed on the census as born in Ireland.

I am trying to find the parents and siblings for Hugh Ross, it is possible that Hugh lived in Kentucky

for awhile, prior to the 1870 census for ADAMS COUNTY OHIO, Hugh Ross is not on any Ohio

census ( that I have found). HUGH ROSS was a Civil War Veteran, serving as a Corp. for Co. B;

12th KY. calvary....

I am willing to share what info I have.

Followups:

Re: HUGH ROSS of ADAMS CO. OHIO and KENTUCKY Phyllis Ross Weller 4/02/99

(0)

Re: HUGH ROSS of ADAMS CO. OHIO and KENTUCKY L. Ross Asbury 5/20/98 (1)

Re: HUGH ROSS of ADAMS CO. OHIO and KENTUCKY Dee Guinn 6/05/98

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John:

I would love to have anything you have on Nellie. I don't even have her

husband's name. This is not my research but Nannie Myrtle Ross Hale was the

great grandmother of my sister-in-law and I knew Nannie Myrtle very well.

All I have on James and Nannie Myrtle's children are: (1) Nellie---which I

have very little on; (2) Martha Alice born Feb. 8, 1908 Greenup County,

Kentucky and died July 31, 1968 at 60 years, 4 months and 23 days of colon

cancer at their home. The address was Waverly Route 1 but it is just

outside of Beaver, Pike County, Ohio. Martha was married to an Arthur; I

don't have his name because all the years I knew her, he wasn't in the

picture. (3) Wade born 1904 in Greenup County, Kentucky and died Jan. 21,

1979 probably in Portsmouth, Ohio. Seems like he was in the hospital there

or Ironton. I only met him one time. (4) Arthur "Art" born Feb. 23, 1906

Greenup County, Kentucky and died Feb. 27, 1963 and married Henrietta

Stewart. He died at a little over 59 years old of caner at Portsmouth, Ohio.

Anxious to hear from you again.

Melissa Holbrook Miller

My sister-in-law is Susan Bryant Miller who was the

granddaughter of Nellie Hale

At 09:10 AM 11/23/99 PST, you wrote:

>I found your email address on one of my charts, and thought I'd contact you to

>see if you had found any good info on the Ross - Hale lines. I don't have much

>on Myrtle (Ross) Hale's family. I met her a few times as a child, but lost

>contact with much of the family down there when we moved to Columbus. I have

>the names of 2 sons and 3 daughters, plus a little on your line from Nellie

>(Hale) Nicole. I would like very much to exchange any info on these lines that

>you would be interested in sharing.

>

>John W. Grace

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Posted by: Eleanor McDavid Brewster

Date: October 30, 1999 at 22:28:54

In Reply to: Children of John Sturgill & Jemima Wells by

Cyndi M

Cynda,

Yes Elizabeth did marry John M. Webb and I do have some information. They lived at Webbville

Ky. about 6 miles from where I live. Solomon is my gg grandfather 2 times and he had 3 sisters that

married and came to the Webbville, Ky. area They were: Nancy who married 1.Elisha Pennington

who was a brother to my gg great grandfather Pennington. Elisha died she married 2. Linzie Lester

after he died she married 3. Wm, Riley Webb. All three men preceded her in death. She died in

1912 buried at the Webbville Cemetery; Elizabeth born 5 March 1823 Wise Co. Va. died 1922

(Pennington Pedigrees states she died Dec 1923), Lawrence Co. Webbville, Ky. m. John M. Webb

13 August 1839, Harlan Co. Ky.

John born 19 October 1817 Knox co. Ky.(per L.D.S. Library film) died 12 June 1911, Lawrence

Co. Ky, (Per certificate page 56 #22332) They had 12 children 7 boys and 5 girls. (3)Agnes Sturgill

born 8 April 1828 Wise Co. Va, died 24 October 1917 married no 1. Levi Webb married #2 John

W. Pennington. I have more info. Let me know if you need more.

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JAMES PIATT & DEMARCUS ROSS

Posted by: Donna Hile Date: July 08, 1998 at 11:10:00

James Piatt (no other info) marr. Demarcus Ross, d/o Hugh Ross & Margaret ________.

children:

1. Michael "Mitch" b. ca 1874; marr. Harriet

Hayslip.

2. Henry Sherman b. 1876 prob Adams Co.,OH;

marr. 1901 Lida Hall.

James & demarcus Piatt divorced abt. 1887-88.

Their (2) sons were adopted by Michael ZINKHORN & Eleanor TAYLOR of Adams Co.,OH.

Can anyone supply info regarding these (2) sons, their wives & children?

In 1920 Michael (Piatt) Zinkhorn, wife & 12

children were res. Champaign Co.,OH.

WHERE DID THEY ALL GO??

Thanks in advance!

Donna Hile

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Michael PIATT family, Ulysses S. Grant Kiser. I have been to the Bath/Carter/Fleming

>County area several times, but, living in Ca. means I don't get there

>for extended visits. Though I have gotten to know some of our kin in the

>Olive Hill area.

>

>Please let me know if your interested.

>

>

>John W. Grace

>jwgrace@

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William Sparks and his brother John Sparks entered America through Maryland in 1662. They are most probably two of the four sons of Thomas Sparks and Joanne Davis of Fareham Parish, Hampshire England, although this

has never been proven. This is my and Nancy's line of descent up to the present day, January 1998 as far as we know it, with a few side branches attached.

1 Thomas Sparks b: Abt. 1615 in Fareham Parish, Hampshire, England

. +Joanne Davis b: Abt. 1619 in Fareham Parish, Hampshire, England m: October 19, 1635 in Fareham Parish, Hampshire Co. En

. 2 William Sparks, Sr b: Abt. 1640 in England d: Abt. 1709 in Queen Annes Co., Md

.... +Mary ( Wright ?)

.... 3 [14] William Sparks, Jr. b: Abt. 1674 in Queen Annes Co., Md d: Aft. 1734

....... +Margaret Ann Hamilton

....... 4 William Sample Sparks b: Abt. 1705 d: Aft. 1764 in Maryland

.......... +Rachel Unknown

.......... 5 Matthew Sparks

............. +Sarah

............. 6 William Sparks

.......... 5 William Sparks b: 1725 in Frederick, Md. or Queen Anne's County, Md. d: Abt. 1802 in Surrey Co., NC

............. +Ann m: 1749 in Frederick, Md.

............. 6 William Sparks, Jr. b: Abt. 1750 in Frederick Co., MD

................ 7 John Sparks b: Abt. 1775

................ 7 Daughter Sparks b: Abt. 1778

................ 7 Daughter Sparks b: Abt. 1781

................ 7 Larkin Sparks b: Abt. 1784

................ 7 Daughter Sparks b: 1787

................ 7 Daughter Sparks b: Abt. 1790

................ 7 William Sparks b: Abt. 1792

................ 7 Elizabeth Sparks b: Abt. 1794

................ 7 Daughter Sparks b: Abt. 1796

................ 7 Daughter Sparks b: Abt. 1798

............. 6 Matthew Sparks b: Abt. 1752

................ +Eunice m: Abt. 1775 in Surrey Co., NC

................ 7 Nancy Sparks b: Abt. 1777

................ 7 Margaret "Peggy" Sparks b: Abt. 1779 in Surrey Co., NC

................... +William West m: 1799 in Surrey Co., NC

................ 7 sally b: Abt. 1781

................... +Henry Bray m: Abt. 1803 in Surrey Co., NC

................ 7 [1] Joel Sparks b: Abt. 1784 d: Abt. 1861 in Bates Co. MO

................... +Unknown

................ *2nd Wife of [1] Joel Sparks:

................... +Mary Shatley m: Abt. 1846

................ 7 George Sparks b: Abt. 1787

................ 7 Matthew Sparks, Jr. b: Abt. 1789 in Surrey Co., NC d: August 01, 1854 in Polk Co. OR

................... +Sarah Elmore m: 1808

................ 7 William D. Sparks b: Abt. 1791 in Surrey Co., NC d: Bef. 1860 in Cooper Co. MO

................... +Priscitta

................ 7 John Sparks b: Abt. 1793

............. 6 Rachel Sparks b: Abt. 1754 in Frederick Co. MD

................ +John Rose m: Abt. 1773 in Probably Surrey Co., NC

............. 6 James Sparks b: Abt. 1762 in Frederick Co, Md. d: Abt. 1828 in Lawrence Co. Ky

................ +Mary m: Abt. 1780

................ 7 Jesse Sparks b: Abt. 1797 in NC d: Abt. 1869 in Lawrence Co. Ky

................... 8 Solomon Sparks b: Abt. 1820 in Va. d: Abt. 1873

...................... 9 Solomon Sparks b: Abt. 1866 in Ky d: Abt. 1909

......................... 10 George Washington Sparks b: March 01, 1909 in Lawrence Co. Ky d: December 07, 1966 in Phoenix, AZ.

............................ +Regina Ann Kelly m: November 06, 1925 in KY

............................ 11 Curmal Sparks b: December 17, 1926 in Scioto County, Oh d: January 21, 1988 in Phoenix, AZ.

............................... +Maxine Smith m: 1947 in Columbus, Oh

............................ 11 Ida Christine Sparks b: December 02, 1928 in Scioto County, Oh d: July 29, 1929 in Scioto County, Oh

............................ 11 [2] Russell V. Sparks b: Private in Scioto County, Oh

............................... +Alice Peach b: Private in Scioto Co. Ohio m: 1947 in Scioto County, Oh

............................ *2nd Wife of [2] Russell V. Sparks:

............................... +Unknown wife #2 m: Aft. 1950

............................ *3rd Wife of [2] Russell V. Sparks:

............................... +Pauline m: Aft. 1952

............................ 11 Ruth Ann Sparks b: June 11, 1932 in Scioto County, Oh d: May 12, 1950

............................... +Raymond Roden

............................ 11 Charlotte Lucille Sparks b: Private in Scioto County, Oh

............................... +Darrell Jack Peet b: Private

................ 7 Ephriam Sparks b: Abt. 1781 in NC d: Aft. 1850 in Breathitt Co. KY

................... +Charlotte

................ 7 William Sparks b: 1783 in NC d: March 02, 1869 in White Co. Tenn.

................... +Rhoda Pennington m: Abt. 1808 in Washington Co. Va.

................ 7 Lela Sparks b: 1785 in NC d: 1786-1789

................ 7 Solomon Sparks b: 1788 in NC

............. 6 [6] Thomas Sparks, Sr. b: Abt. 1766 in Probably Rowan Co., NC d: Abt. 1837 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................ +Rebecca d: Bef. 1800 m: Abt. 1785

................ 7 Hannah Sparks b: Abt. 1788 in Surry Co., NC

................... +Mauk

................ 7 Joseph Sparks b: Abt. 1790 in Surry Co., NC

................... +Martha Edwards b: Abt. 1795 in NC d: 1860-1870 in Pike Co., KY m: January 28, 1850

................... 8 Etheldred Sparks b: Abt. 1816 in Ashe Co., NC d: Abt. 1865 in Pike Co., KY

...................... +Ellen Gent b: Abt. 1814 in Russell Co., VA d: Aft. 1880 in Pike Co., KY m: October 14, 1841 in Lawrence Co. KY

...................... 9 Martha Jane Sparks b: Abt. 1842

......................... +William M. Helvy m: July 19, 1856 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Margaret A. Sparks b: Abt. 1845

......................... +Andrew Ratliff m: August 22, 1861 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 [3] Josiah Sparks b: April 01, 1846 in Pike Co., KY d: July 06, 1909 in Meta, KY

......................... +Emma Deskins b: Abt. 1853 in Pike Co., KY d: Abt. 1875 in Pike Co., KY m: December 31, 1874 in Pike Co., KY

...................... *2nd Wife of [3] Josiah Sparks:

......................... +Louisa Jane Charles b: December 1856 in Probably Pike Co., KY d: March 14, 1936 in Meta, KY m: Abt. 1877 in Probably Pike Co., KY

......................... 10 Louisa Sparks

......................... 10 Emma Sparks

......................... 10 Cora Sparks

......................... 10 Arminda Sparks

......................... 10 Green Sparks

......................... 10 Mary Ellen Sparks

......................... 10 Pricey Sparks

......................... 10 David Sparks

......................... 10 Benjamin Sparks

......................... 10 Flora Sparks

...................... 9 Mary "Polly" Sparks b: July 10, 1849 in Pike Co., KY d: January 31, 1884

......................... +James M. Williams b: July 19, 1849 d: May 28, 1928 in Pike Co., KY m: December 25, 1870 in Pike Co., KY

......................... 10 Hiram Williams

......................... 10 Silas Williams

......................... 10 Andrew Williams

......................... 10 Bowles Williams

......................... 10 Julie Williams

......................... 10 Annie Williams

...................... 9 Sirena Sparks b: Abt. 1854

......................... +George W. Elswick

......................... 10 James Elswick

................... 8 Frances Sparks b: Abt. 1818 in NC

...................... +Reuben Kozee m: December 01, 1836 in Lawrence Co. KY

...................... 9 John Kozee b: Abt. 1838

...................... 9 Arena Kozee b: Abt. 1840

...................... 9 Malinda Kozee b: Abt. 1842

...................... 9 Lucinda Kozee b: Abt. 1845

................... 8 Charlotte Sparks b: Abt. 1820 in NC

...................... +Andrew Cain m: Abt. 1837 in Lawrence Co. KY

................... 8 Sirena Sparks b: Abt. 1822 in NC

...................... +Daniel S. Carroll b: Abt. 1824 in NC m: October 17, 1844 in Lawrence Co. KY

...................... 9 Martha J. Carroll b: Abt. 1845

...................... 9 Rebecca Carroll b: Abt. 1847

...................... 9 Calvin Carroll b: Abt. 1850

...................... 9 Phebe B. Carroll b: September 08, 1852 in Carter Co., KY

...................... 9 William C. Carroll b: October 01, 1855 in Carter Co., KY

...................... 9 Susannah Carroll b: Abt. 1858

...................... 9 Thomas Carroll b: Abt. 1859

................... 8 Mary Jane Sparks b: Abt. 1823 in NC d: Abt. 1876 in Pike Co., KY

...................... +Lorenzo D. Hinkle b: Abt. 1817 in Tazewell Co., VA d: 1886-1887 in Martin Co., KY m: March 24, 1846 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Thomas J. Hinkle b: Abt. 1848

......................... +Jane Williamson m: Abt. 1876 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 George W. Hinkle b: Abt. 1850

...................... 9 William Hinkle b: April 20, 1852

......................... +Alice Williamson m: Abt. 1872

...................... 9 Pharmer Polk Hinkle b: August 31, 1854 d: June 24, 1945 in Ashland, KY

......................... +Lucinda Dingus m: January 01, 1885 in Martin Co., KY

...................... 9 Joseph Hinkle b: Abt. 1856

...................... 9 Lorenzo Dow Hinkle, Jr. b: October 20, 1857

......................... +Judith Staton m: January 15, 1889 in Martin Co., KY

...................... 9 Levina Hinkle b: Abt. 1862

...................... 9 Colbert Cecil Hinkle b: May 1866

......................... +Leona Staton m: 1893 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Mary J. Hinkle b: Abt. 1871

......................... +John Entzminger m: May 13, 1897 in Martin Co., KY

................... 8 [4] Richard Sparks b: April 1825 in NC d: Aft. 1900

...................... +Mary June Johnson b: Abt. 1829 in VA d: Abt. 1862 m: January 24, 1849 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Susannah Sparks b: Abt. 1850

...................... 9 Martha Sparks b: April 18, 1852 in Pike Co., KY d: September 1860 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Joseph Sparks b: Abt. 1858

...................... 9 John Sparks b: Abt. 1862

................... *2nd Wife of [4] Richard Sparks:

...................... +Rebecca Davis b: Abt. 1841 in Va d: 1880-1890 in Pike Co., KY m: March 16, 1865 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Robert Sparks b: December 1865 in Pike Co., KY

......................... +Nancy J. Scott m: Abt. 1894 in Pike Co., KY

......................... 10 Robert Sparks

......................... 10 Sarah B. Sparks

......................... 10 Ivory Sparks

...................... 9 Roland F. Sparks b: Abt. 1867

...................... 9 David Sparks b: December 1869 in Pike Co., KY

......................... +Rosa B. b: May 1874 m: Abt. 1895 in Pike Co., KY

......................... 10 Trimble Sparks b: Abt. 1896

...................... 9 Richard Sparks, Jr. b: February 1871 in John's Creek, Pike Co., KY d: Abt. 1913 in Madison Co., Arkansas

......................... +Mary Stanley b: July 17, 1871 in Pike Co., KY d: February 04, 1939 in Pike Co., KY m: Abt. 1900

......................... 10 Ida Sparks

......................... 10 Pricey Sparks

......................... 10 Irtley Sparks

......................... 10 Della Sparks

......................... 10 Kelley Sparks

......................... 10 Cansas Sparks

...................... 9 Cynthia Sparks b: Abt. 1873

...................... 9 Elizabeth Sparks b: Abt. 1874

...................... 9 Emma Sparks b: Abt. 1876

...................... 9 Sarah Sparks b: March 1878

................... 8 Keziah Sparks b: March 04, 1830 in Probably Lawrence Co. KY d: October 16, 1905 in Pike Co., KY

...................... +Jacob Ratliff b: Abt. 1831 d: April 11, 1911 in Pike Co., KY m: December 02, 1852 in Pike Co., KY

...................... 9 Martha J. Ratliff b: October 16, 1853

......................... +George Anderson Helvey m: December 24, 1879

......................... 10 Ballard R. Helvey

...................... 9 John Ratliff b: Abt. 1855

...................... 9 Caroline Ratliff b: Abt. 1857

...................... 9 Virginia Ratliff b: Abt. 1860

................... 8 Tabitha Sparks b: Abt. 1832 in KY

...................... +Rhodes Meade m: June 15, 1848 in Pike Co., KY

................... 8 [5] George William Sparks b: Abt. 1835 in Johnson, Co. KY d: March 15, 1878 in Clinton Co., Missouri

...................... +Alafair Chaffin b: Abt. 1830 in Logan Co., VA m: January 1858 in Lawrence Co. KY

...................... 9 Martha J. Sparks b: Abt. 1859

...................... 9 George Sparks b: Abt. 1861

...................... 9 William Sparks b: Abt. 1864

...................... 9 James Sparks b: Abt. 1866

................... *2nd Wife of [5] George William Sparks:

...................... +Rebecca C. Ball b: Abt. 1837 d: January 10, 1909 m: July 07, 1867 in Carter Co., KY

................ 7 Eleanor Sparks b: February 15, 1791 in Surrey Co., NC d: March 1858 in Lawrence Co. KY

................... +Peter Mauk b: April 14, 1781 d: February 13, 1859 in Lawrence Co. KY m: June 08, 1818 in Scott Co. VA

................... 8 Peter C. Mauk b: September 17, 1818

................... 8 Margaret "Peggy" Mauk b: June 08, 1820

................... 8 Sarah Jane Mauk b: Abt. 1822

................... 8 Catherine Mauk b: Abt. 1824

................... 8 Frederick M. Mauk b: March 26, 1827

................ 7 Allen Sparks b: Abt. 1795

............. *2nd Wife of [6] Thomas Sparks, Sr.:

................ +Dianah Wilcox b: Abt. 1770 d: in Probably Rowan Co., NC m: Abt. 1800

................ 7 Thomas Sparks, Jr. b: November 08, 1801 in Surrey Co., NC d: February 08, 1876 in Boyd Co. Ky

................... +Catherine Jayne b: January 15, 1807 in Kentucky d: May 06, 1883 in Lewis Co. Ky. m: December 24, 1823 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................... 8 Kesiah Sparks b: Abt. 1824

...................... +Campbell Gent m: February 23, 1839 in Lawrence Co. KY

................... 8 Dorcas Sparks b: September 09, 1826

................... 8 [11] William Jayne Sparks b: Abt. 1827 in Lawrence Co., Ky. d: April 13, 1895 in Johnson Co., Ky.(Boons Camp, Ky.)

...................... +Elizabeth Hager b: 1823 in Pike Co., Ky d: March 09, 1885 in - m: December 27, 1848 in Greenup Co., Ky.

...................... 9 James Hagar Sparks b: Abt. 1849 in Greenup Co., Ky.

...................... 9 Thomas Jefferson Sparks b: August 23, 1850 d: Abt. 1932

...................... 9 Daniel Sparks b: May 1855 in Johnson Co., Ky. d: Abt. 1906

...................... 9 Nelson Sparks b: April 22, 1856 in Johnson Co., Ky. d: December 30, 1932 in Thealka, Ky.

...................... 9 William Greenville Sparks b: April 01, 1858 in Johnson Co., Ky. d: July 16, 1932 in Wayne Co., WVa.

......................... +Pricie Smith b: August 16, 1852 d: July 17, 1935 in Kenova, W.Va. m: Bef. 1878

......................... 10 Alie Sparks b: February 22, 1879 in Pike Co., Ky. d: April 28, 1957 in Huntington, WVa.

............................ +Mary Elizabeth Hager b: November 12, 1881 in Lawrence Co., Ky. d: December 09, 1963 in Ashland, Ky.Va. m: March 01, 1900 in Eliza, Johnson Co., Ky.

............................ 11 [7] James Edgar Sparks b: May 15, 1901 in Wayne Co., WVa. d: March 05, 1984 in Scioto Co. Ohio

............................... +Anna Mae Stump b: Abt. 1901 m: October 29, 1924

............................ *2nd Wife of [7] James Edgar Sparks:

............................... +Lillian Ison b: February 24, 1899 in Stephens, Elliot Co. Ky. d: January 02, 1984 in Scioto Co., Ohio m: April 14, 1928 in Cattletsburg, Ky.

............................... 12 [8] Harold Ellsworth Sparks b: Private in Scioto Co., Ohio

.................................. +Mary Ellen Cate b: January 15, 1930 in Knoxville, Tenn. d: November 06, 1986 in Charleston, SC. m: February 15, 1951 in North Charleston, SC.

............................... *2nd Wife of [8] Harold Ellsworth Sparks:

.................................. +Judy Lovelady b: Private in Indiana m: December 23, 1989 in Charleston, SC.

............................... 12 [9] Doris Jean Sparks b: Private in New Boston, Ohio

.................................. +Garland Kerr b: Private in Scioto Co., Ohio m: November 01, 1952 in Scioto County, Oh

............................... *2nd Husband of [9] Doris Jean Sparks:

.................................. +Donald Curtis Freshour b: December 17, 1928 in Scioto Co., Ohio d: May 29, 1993 in Lee County Fla. (Fort Myers) m: August 08, 1964 in Scioto County, Oh

............................ 11 Mary Edna Sparks b: January 03, 1903 in Wayne Co., WVa. d: July 05, 1989 in Lodi, California

............................... +Frank Brady Childers b: February 24, 1891 in Putnam Co., WVa. d: September 24, 1957 in Charleston, WVa. m: April 03, 1920 in WVa.

............................... 12 Mary Elizabeth Childers b: Private in Kenova, WVa.

.................................. +Charles F. Wilson b: Private in McHenry, Ky. m: June 18, 1943 in Anderson, Ind.

............................... 12 Frank Brady, Jr. Childers b: December 31, 1922 in Wayne Co., WVa. d: July 31, 1924 in Wayne Co. WVa.

............................ 11 William Frank Sparks b: Private in Wayne Co., WVa.

............................... +Shirley Evelyn Mayo b: Private in Ceredo WVa. (Wayne Co.) m: February 09, 1935 in Beckley, WVa.

............................... 12 Nancy Lou Sparks b: Private in Charleston, WVa.

.................................. +Richard Philbert Morrison b: Private in Richmond, Va. m: October 23, 1958 in Huntington, WVa.

............................... 12 Peggy Joan Sparks b: Private in Charleston, W.Va.

.................................. +James Allen Hanshaw b: Private m: June 24, 1972 in Charleston, WVa.

............................ 11 Joseph Walter Sparks b: August 21, 1906 in Wayne Co., WVa. d: November 17, 1991 in Nitro, WVa.

............................... +Inez Jane Millard b: Private in Crown City, Ohio m: October 08, 1926 in Catlettsburg, Ky.

............................... 12 James Oliver Sparks b: Private in Kenova, WVA

.................................. +Dorothy Ann Zornes b: Private in Catlettsburg, Ky m: February 29, 1948 in Catlettsburg, Ky

............................... 12 Jane Ann Sparks b: Private in Charleston, WVa

.................................. +Stanton F. Randolph b: Private in Washington, DC m: August 25, 1962 in Charleston, WVa

............................... 12 Betty Jean Sparks b: Private in Charleston, WVa.

.................................. +David Hugo Tidquist b: Private in Charleston, WVa m: July 10, 1965 in Charleston, WVa

............................ 11 Thomas Frederick Sparks b: November 11, 1917 in Wayne Co., WVa. d: October 14, 1987 in Ashland, Ky.

............................... +Lillian (Lucille) Zornes b: Private in Catlettsburg, Ky. m: May 06, 1941 in Ironton, Ohio

............................... 12 Cheryl Sparks b: Private in Ashland, Ky.

.................................. +Harlan Blackwood II Staton b: Private m: August 04, 1967

............................ 11 Sara Margaret Sparks b: Private in Wayne Co., WVa.

............................... +Roy C. Frazier b: August 06, 1906 in Clifford, Lawrence Co., Ky. d: July 23, 1991 in Ashland, Ky. m: October 07, 1936 in Charleston, WVa.

............................... 12 Roy Lee Frazier b: Private in Ashland, Ky. d: September 05, 1940 in Ashland, Ky.

............................... 12 Raymond Grant Frazier b: Private in Ashland, Ky. d: November 18, 1994 in Louisville, Ky.

.................................. +Sandra Whitt b: Private m: January 11, 1965

............................... 12 Michael Alan Frazier b: Private in Ashland, Ky.

.................................. +Norma Napier b: Private m: December 28, 1979

............................... 12 Gregory Hagar Frazier b: Private in Ashland, Ky.

.................................. +Debora Lynn Oney b: Private m: October 10, 1973

............................... 12 Keith Brian Frazier b: Private in Ashland, Ky.

......................... 10 Hensley Sparks b: April 26, 1881 d: March 23, 1918

............................ +Ida (Preston) Smith

............................ 11 Myrtle Sparks

............................ 11 Joe II Sparks

............................ 11 John Sparks

......................... 10 Mary Sparks b: February 21, 1883 in Johnson County, Ky. d: April 03, 1961 in Kenova, W. Va.

............................ +Elmer Stump

............................ 11 Elmer Stump, Jr.

............................... +Maxine Porter

......................... 10 Daniel Joseph Sparks b: Abt. 1886 in prob. Pike Co., KY d: Abt. 1956 in Kenova, WVA

............................ +Belle Perry b: 1890 in Argentina, KY (now Maloneton) d: 1956 in Wilmington, Delaware m: in prob. KY

............................ 11 Forrest Sparks b: February 25, 1913 d: September 30, 1995

............................... +Patricia Foley

............................... 12 Bill Sparks

............................... 12 Patricia Ann Sparks

............................... 12 Kathy Sparks

............................... 12 Julia Sparks

............................... 12 David Sparks

............................ 11 William Bennett Sparks b: December 08, 1915 in Wayne County, WVA d: October 04, 1990 in Salem, VA

............................... +Helen Trevelyn Clark b: June 28, 1922 in Radford, VA d: February 23, 1967 in Winston Salem, NC m: June 28, 1939 in Radford, VA

............................... 12 Norma Jo Sparks b: Private in Christianburg, VA

.................................. +Coy Dudley Bennett b: Private in Rocky Mount, VA m: August 18, 1963 in Radford, VA

............................... 12 Beverly Sparks b: Private in Radford, VA

.................................. +Billy Wayne Reed b: Private in Radford, VA m: December 31, 1969 in Radford, VA

............................ 11 Ruby Sparks b: Private in Wayne County, WVA

............................... +Winfred Clay Campbell b: Private in Lincoln County, WVA m: April 27, 1939 in Catlettsburg, Ky

............................... 12 Paul Edward Campbell b: Private in Catlettsburg, KY

.................................. +Judith Ann Sheets b: Private in Huntington, Cabell, WVA m: September 17, 1966 in Catlettsburg, Ky

............................... 12 [10] Lois E. Campbell b: Private in Boyd County, KY

.................................. +Phillip S. Salisbury, Sr. b: Private

............................... *2nd Husband of [10] Lois E. Campbell:

.................................. +Jeffrey Hale b: Private in Dayton, Ohio m: October 15, 1986 in Beavercreek, Ohio

............................... 12 John M. Campbell b: Private in Ashland, KY

.................................. +Marla Kay Hale b: Private in Ashland, Boyd County, KY m: September 22, 1973 in Huntington, WVA

............................ 11 Earl Sparks b: Private

............................ 11 Mary Lou Sparks b: Private

............................ 11 Joann Sparks b: Private in Kenova, WVA

............................... +M. Glen Reitenour, Jr. b: Private in Mullens, WVA m: May 20, 1950 in Russell, KY

............................... 12 Glen Gregory Reitenour b: Private

............................... 12 Steven Lynn Reitenour b: Private in Wilmington, Delaware

.................................. +Tamara Kaye Bjorklund b: Private

............................... 12 Debora Jo Reitenour b: Private

.................................. +Hugh Moss Comer II b: Private m: June 20, 1987 in Atlanta, GA

............................... 12 Rebecca Ann Reitenour b: Private

.................................. +Alexander Conier Carter IV b: Private m: September 25, 1993 in Birmingham, AL

............................ 11 Ruth Sparks b: Private

............................... +William Jess (Bill) Workman b: 1930 in Kentucky d: 1969 in Columbus, Ohio

............................... 12 Joann Workman b: Private

............................... 12 Brenda Arlene Workman b: Private

.................................. +Terry Seney m: 1976

............................... 12 Mary Frances Workman b: Private

.................................. +Dan Barbour b: Private m: 1982

............................... 12 Jessie Lynn Workman b: Private

.................................. +Mark Ellis

...................... 9 Catherine Sparks b: June 09, 1860 in Johnson County, Kentucky d: September 25, 1934 in Amherstdale, WVa

......................... +James Harvey Cook b: January 10, 1838 in Lawrence Co., Ky d: June 13, 1923 in Hellier, KY, Pike Co. m: October 31, 1889 in Johnson, Co. Ky.

...................... 9 Mary Sparks b: June 09, 1860 in Kentucky d: July 09, 1860

...................... 9 Richard Alvin Sparks b: April 1866 d: Abt. 1921

................... *2nd Wife of [11] William Jayne Sparks:

...................... +Crissie J. Osburn m: April 16, 1889

................... 8 Dianah Sparks b: Abt. 1829

...................... +Wiley Craft m: December 24, 1845 in Johnson, Co. KY

................... 8 Sarah Sparks b: August 14, 1830 in Lawrence Co. KY d: July 30, 1916 in Boyd Co. KY

...................... +John Crain m: April 19, 1851

................... 8 Eleanor "Nellie" Sparks b: December 05, 1832 d: December 17, 1909

...................... +William Craft m: October 13, 1832 in Greenup Co. Ky.

................... 8 Margaret Sparks b: Abt. 1835

...................... +Henry James Craft

................... 8 Thomas J. Sparks b: December 1836 d: March 24, 1907

...................... +Matilda D. m: Abt. 1866 in Hart Co. KY

................... 8 Henry J. Sparks b: March 1839 d: August 27, 1905 in Lewis Co. KY

...................... +Elizabeth Rouse m: September 26, 1861 in Boyd Co. KY

................... 8 Daniel Sparks b: March 09, 1841 d: September 11, 1859 in Boyd Co. KY

................... 8 Catherine Sparks b: May 09, 1844 d: August 24, 1859 in Boyd Co. KY

................... 8 John Wilbur Sparks b: March 18, 1846 in Johnson, Co. KY d: Aft. 1900 in Lewis Co. KY

...................... +Nancy Jane Jackson b: April 07, 1847 m: June 05, 1870 in Boyd Co. Ky

...................... 9 Sylvester Barnett Sparks b: October 16, 1871 d: 1940

......................... +Belle Redden b: December 24, 1874 d: Unknown

......................... 10 Doris Sparks

......................... 10 John G. Sparks

......................... 10 Gilbert Sparks

......................... 10 Iva Sparks

......................... 10 Alva Sparks

......................... 10 Edith Sparks

...................... 9 Richard Jackson Sparks b: November 01, 1873

...................... 9 Elizabeth Sparks b: November 14, 1875 d: January 10, 1964

......................... +Jesse Monroe Riggs

......................... 10 Howard Riggs

......................... 10 William Riggs

...................... 9 William Thomas Sparks b: March 30, 1877 d: May 13, 1959

......................... +Edna Frances McGowan

...................... 9 John James Sparks b: February 26, 1879

...................... 9 Catherine Sparks b: December 22, 1883 d: April 14, 1970

......................... +Frank Lester Mault b: in Scioto Co., Ohio m: 1911

......................... 10 Georgia Marie Mault

................ 7 Sarah Sparks b: July 14, 1803 in Wilkes CO. NC d: October 14, 1893 in Johnson Co. KY

................... +Henry Jayne b: October 05, 1803 in Washington Co. VA d: May 18, 1870 in Johnson, Co. KY m: December 13, 1824 in Lawrence Co. KY

................ 7 Matthew Sparks b: Abt. 1805

................... +Alsy Osburn

................ 7 [12] Daniel Wilcox Sparks b: October 27, 1806 in Surry Co. NC d: October 1900 in Hoods Creek, KY

................... +Sarah Jayne b: Abt. 1813 d: June 27, 1854 m: July 31, 1834 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................ *2nd Wife of [12] Daniel Wilcox Sparks:

................... +Eleanor Cordial m: 1859 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................ 7 Lucy Frances (Franky) Sparks b: Abt. 1807

................ 7 Elisha Sparks b: Abt. 1809

................... +Susanna Pridamore m: December 25, 1834 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................ 7 Elijah Sparks b: Abt. 1811 d: 1870-1880 in Johnson, Co. KY

................... +Sarah Evans b: September 14, 1811 in Va d: October 04, 1891 in Johnson, Co. KY m: October 19, 1832 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................... 8 William Sparks b: Abt. 1833 in Floyd Co. KY d: May 16, 1879 in Flat Gap, KY

...................... +Louise Blevins b: Abt. 1839 d: Aft. 1900 in Bonanza, KY m: September 15, 1855 in Johnson, Co. KY

...................... 9 Nancy Evaline Sparks b: October 26, 1856

......................... +William J. McKenzie m: December 25, 1873 in Johnson, Co. KY

......................... 10 Elizabeth McKenzie

......................... 10 Louisa McKenzie

...................... 9 [13] William Henry Sparks b: December 17, 1858

......................... +Susan Alley b: Abt. 1861 d: Abt. 1890 m: February 08, 1878 in Johnson, Co. KY

......................... 10 Elizabeth Sparks

......................... 10 Lula Sparks

......................... 10 William Sparks

......................... 10 Homer Sparks

......................... 10 Andrew Sparks

......................... 10 Elijah Sparks

......................... 10 Eliza Sparks

...................... *2nd Wife of [13] William Henry Sparks:

......................... +Jahaza m: Abt. 1893

......................... 10 Sarah Sparks

......................... 10 Millard Sparks

......................... 10 Mahala Sparks

...................... 9 Sarah Catherine Sparks b: May 15, 1865

...................... 9 Elijah Sparks b: March 05, 1867

...................... 9 Eli Sparks b: November 29, 1871

...................... 9 Meridith Green Sparks b: October 27, 1874

...................... 9 Edward Cornelious Sparks b: March 08, 1877

................... 8 Mary Ann Sparks b: April 08, 1835 in Floyd Co. KY d: December 13, 1903 in Flat Gap. Johnson Co. KY

...................... +Layfaette McKenzie b: April 03, 1837 in Scott Co. VA d: December 22, 1905 in Flat Gap. Johnson Co. KY m: July 17, 1859 in Johnson Co. KY

...................... 9 Infant McKenzie b: July 24, 1859

...................... 9 Sarah Ann McKenzie b: August 05, 1860 in Johnson, Co. KY d: May 01, 1941 in Volga, KY

......................... +Santford Blanton b: January 29, 1858 in Volga, KY d: January 24, 1939 in Volga, KY m: February 13, 1879 in Johnson, Co. KY

......................... 10 Della Blanton

......................... 10 Mary Blanton

......................... 10 Bertha Blanton

......................... 10 Lafayette Blanton

......................... 10 Virgie Blanton

......................... 10 William Blanton

......................... 10 Martha Blanton

......................... 10 Harry Blanton

......................... 10 Albert Blanton

......................... 10 Oliver Blanton

......................... 10 Verna Blanton

......................... 10 George Blanton

......................... 10 Kendrick Blanton

......................... 10 John Blanton

...................... 9 William H. McKenzie b: June 26, 1862 in Johnson, Co. KY

......................... +Lydia Blanton

......................... 10 Clinnie McKenzie

......................... 10 Molta McKenzie

......................... 10 Mary McKenzie

......................... 10 Nola McKenzie

......................... 10 Forrest McKenzie

...................... 9 Benjamin M. McKenzie b: May 15, 1864 in Johnson, Co. KY d: January 06, 1918 in Annandale MN

......................... +Missouri Belle Kimbler b: October 15, 1872 in Johnson, Co. KY d: March 11, 1932 in Annandale MN m: February 21, 1891 in Canon's Chapel, Johnson Co. KY

......................... 10 Clarence McKenzie

......................... 10 Oscar McKenzie

......................... 10 Bertha McKenzie

...................... 9 James E. McKenzie b: July 01, 1865 in Johnson, Co. KY d: November 09, 1925 in Meeker Co. MN

......................... +Mary Stapleton b: Abt. 1868 in Johnson, Co. KY d: 1949 m: July 29, 1886 in Johnson, Co. KY

......................... 10 Sanford McKenzie

......................... 10 Ossie McKenzie

......................... 10 Alice McKenzie

......................... 10 Virgie McKenzie

......................... 10 Proctor McKenzie

......................... 10 Laura McKenzie

......................... 10 Frankie McKenzie

...................... 9 Nancy McKenzie b: Abt. 1867

......................... +Greene Stapleton

...................... 9 Daniel McKenzie b: October 1868

......................... +Cynthia Brown

......................... 10 Martha McKenzie

......................... 10 Mitchell McKenzie

......................... 10 Bert McKenzie

......................... 10 Mollie McKenzie

...................... 9 Oliver McKenzie b: May 03, 1871 d: November 15, 1950 in Kimball, MN

......................... +Nancy Salyers b: May 04, 1876 d: April 29, 1959 in Kimball, MN

......................... 10 Sanford McKenzie

......................... 10 Christine McKenzie

......................... 10 Lafayette McKenzie

......................... 10 Arizona McKenzie

......................... 10 Elzie McKenzie

......................... 10 Madge McKenzie

......................... 10 Claude McKenzie

......................... 10 Martha McKenzie

......................... 10 Mary K. McKenzie

......................... 10 Noah McKenzie

......................... 10 Ben McKenzie

......................... 10 James McKenzie

......................... 10 Donald McKenzie

...................... 9 Martha McKenzie b: Abt. 1873 d: Abt. 1903

...................... 9 George W.McKenzie b: January 29, 1875

......................... +Nancy Williams

......................... 10 Frankie McKenzie

......................... 10 Volney McKenzie

......................... 10 Chester McKenzie

......................... 10 Sandy McKenzie

......................... 10 Cora McKenzie

......................... 10 Walter McKenzie

................ 7 Dianah Sparks b: Abt. 1813

................... +Pardon Morris m: Abt. 1832 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................ 7 Nicholas Sparks b: Abt. 1814

................... +Dorcas Ross m: Abt. 1837 in Lawrence Co., Ky.

................ 7 Unidentified Male Sparks b: Abt. 1815

..........* Second wife of William Sample Sparks ...........

...........+ Mary Courman

...........5 James Sparks b: Abt. 1747 in Rowan Co. NC

.... *2nd Wife of [14] William Sparks, Jr.:

....... +Anne

.... 3 John Sparks b: Abt. 1677

.... 3 George Sparks b: Abt. 1680

.... 3 Joseph Sparks b: Abt. 1689

....... +Mary _________Abt 1689

.........4 Joseph Sparks, Jr. Abt 1730 -

...........+Mary McDaniel Abt 1730 -

...........5 Solomon Sparks 1760 - 1838

.............+Rachael Weimer 1764 - 1842

.............6 Solomon Sparks 1812 - 1860

...............+Susan Black Abt 1814 - 1887

...............7 Jennie Jane Elizabeth Sparks 1844 - 1899

.................+George Washington Amick 1837 - 1913

.................8 Ralph Lurene Amick 1870 - 1927

...................+Sarah Ella Swartz 1878 - Abt 1968

...................9 Florence E. Amick 1904 - 1971

.....................+Michael Thomas Savoy 1896 - 1977

.....................10 Michael Thomas Savoy, Jr., Private

.........................+Betty Jane Germroth, Private

.........................11 Michael Robert Savoy, Private -

..............................+Patricia Ann Harknett, Private

....... 4 Solomon Sparks

....... 4 Merum Sparks

....... 4 Jonathan Sparks

....... 4 George Sparks

....... 4 Sarah Sparks

....... 4 William Sparks

....... 4 Ann Sparks

....... 4 Mary Sparks

....... 4 Rebecka Sparks

....... 4 Charles Sparks

. 2 Francis Sparks b: Abt. 1641

. 2 John Sparks b: Abt. 1649 in England d: Abt. 1700

.... +Elinor

.... 3 George Sparks

.... 3 John Sparks b: 1669-1680

. 2 Richard Sparks b: Aft. 1658

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Mary Jane ROSS ()

BORN: 26 FEB 1830, Fleming Co., Kentucky

DIED: 8 FEB 1907, Elizaville, Fleming Co., Kentucky

BURIED: ,

MARRIED: Michael OVERLEY, ,

MARRIED: Benjamin Franklin MAXEY, 3 APR 1863, Fleming Co., Kentucky

CHILDREN:

1.Charles Clemet Vanlandingham MAXEY

2.Philip Ross MAXEY

3.Asa Rumley MAXEY

4.Jennie Craver [Jinney] MAXEY

5.James C [Bruce] MAXEY

6.Laura Bell MAXEY

7.Raney Thomas MAXEY

8.John Curran MAXEY

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DATE: 12/29/1999 SUBMITTER: Christopher Barttels chrisbarttels@

SURNAMES: FITZPATRICK

Seeking info on death of Jeremiah FITZPATRICK, know he was declared insane abt 1847 in Jackson Co. Anybody have more info? Also would like to have

spouse info.

Seeking info on family of David PHILLIPS m. Priscilla FITZPATRICK, 28 Dec 1851, Jackson Co. Priscilla was daughter of George FITZPATRICK (son of

Jeremiah FITZPATRICK)

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From: DeanHickmn@ Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:42:45 EST

Subject: Re: Mary Ann Holland of Jackson Co.

To: jwgrace@

I have several threads which I am unravelling. This is one of them.

Mary Ann Holland is with William Holland and wife Permelia Burks in the 1850

census.

As far as I know Evelyn is still alive. Franklin Finch died 22 Jun 1991 (born

17 Aug 1910).

Ivan Glendon (born 1917) lived in Columbus up until a few years ago. He may

have gone out of state.

Ethel Ross born 1895 died Sept 1984 out in the state of Washington...she was

married to a Lewis after Harry Clyde Hickman's death (Sept 26 1888-Jan 18 1928).

Harry like most of that family was bad to drink. He died in Salt Creek

running his traps.

My father Jesse Banner (Magill) Hickman died Oct 14 1986 here in Columbus

Ohio.

He married Frances Lucille Wickline (she died Jun 1941 when I was two years

old.

My father had the fantastic memory. He knew who was related to everybody. I

am also tying to unravel the Fitzpatrick neighbors.

From 1850 Jackson Township Jackson County Ohio

John Hartley 61 268/276, born Va First wife Ruth Newell m 1 May 1813

Eliza 40, born Va John Hartley m Eliza Ann Binks/Burks 19 Dec 1833

Tombstone Brocks Corner Cem. 1 Apr 1864 53y 10m 4d

John 17,

Martha 12, Martha F Hartley will marry Joseph A Meeker 3 Jan 1856

Mary 10, Mary H Hartley Brocks Corner Cem. 6 Dec 1864 25y 11m

Lafayette 9 m Mary Jane Ticknor 10 May 1865, dau of Clark Ticknor

Nextdoor is John Burks 26 269/277 born in Va,

Father John Burks 26 May 1781 VA-23 May 1860

Mother Ann Pugh b 1783 m 26 Sep 1807 Amherst Co VA

Abby 25, m John M Burks 3 Feb 1847

Compare "Abigail Burns 14 Jun 1860 37y" Brocks Corner Cem

Tombstones in what is now called Bronx Corner Cemetery are all but

unreadable

DuKahe? 2, maybe Dukane?=Duquesne?

Betsy Hartley 1815 May 1831-7 Mar 1905

m Eleazar Woodruff 4 Nov 1853 buried Mt Etna Cem Campcreek

Twp Pike Co.

Tombstone Brocks Corner Cem. Jesse Burks 18 Oct 1847 60y 3m 10d

My father told me that James Burks visited his relatives, left them, went a

little ways and collapsed and died of cholera in the 1830s. They dug a grave

for him and pushed his body in the grave with poles and buried him.

Elsewhere is Woodson Wills 51 born Ky, [actually VA] 11 Jul 1879 81y 5m 11d

Brox Corner

Julia 39 born NY, 27 Dec 1810-17 Mar 1888 m 19 Nov

1843

First wife Sally Kerns m 9 Apr 1817 Bedford, VA

Samuel 21 born Va m Emily Stockman 12/29/68

John 18 (26 Dec 1831-19 Sep 1895) m Mary Vaughters (12 Jun 1842-21 Apr

1895)

Sarah 15,

Edwin 10,

Charles 5, 12 Aug 1855-9 Jul 1900 Brocks Corners Cem married Sena Magill

12/26/67

Louisa 3,

Lucella 2

From the Ross County rootsweb internet site is a query from Michael Wills:

I am looking for any information on Woodson Wills (31 Jan 1798/VA-11 Jul

1879/Richmondale; s/o John B. Wills/Susannah Woodson) m. Sarah Kerns (of VA)

Nextdoor is John Burks 65 born Va Tombstone Brocks Corner Cem. 23 May 1860

78y 11m 28d

Ann 67 born Va

Hannah 33 born Va Hannah will marry Robert Springer

Nextdoor is Wm Holland 48, William H. Holland married Pamelia Banks 29 Aug

1833

Permelia 30 (Va), LDS has Permelia Burks dau of John Burks and Ann Pugh

John 16, John H Holland d 12 Jun 1874 40y 17d Co C OHA a John

Holland m Sydna Sutton 27 Aug 1857

Mary A 14, Mary Ann m John Fitzpatrick

Wm 12, William B. Holland will marry Phebe Leach 30 Oct 1862

James 8 m Hannah Martin 23 Jan 1866

Hannah F 5, will marry Robert W Leach

Betsy A 3, Elizabeth A. Holland will marry Adam Deem

Eliza A 2

Tombstone Almira Holland 3 Nov 1853 Brocks Corner Cemetery

In 1870 I have

William Holland 54 #185 born Virginia

Permelia 54 born Virginia

Elizabeth 23 born Ohio

Elijah 19

Martha 14 Greenlawn Cem. Chillicothe Martha Holland Willis 1856-1934 wife of

Ira T. Willis

Medara 13

Evaline 10 Eva Holland Burks 1860-1920 wife of Abiga ….Joseph H. Burks

1895-1947

Nextdoor is John Slack 50 #186, Mary 45, Louisa 17, Margaret 15, Charley 12

Nextdoor is William Fitzpatrick 30 #187, Rebecca 24, William 1

ElsewhereOscar Leach, 23 #141, born in Ohio (Oscar J. Leach)

Jackson County Deaths: 1878 Oct 02 31y10m23d Jackson Tp.

Angeline 17, born in Ohio, nee Holland, married 16 Jun 1870

Lenora, 21, his sister

Arthur 19, his brother, will marry Mary Almeda Brohard.

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From: "Chris Barttels" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: jwgrace@

Subject: Re: Jeremiah Fitzpatrick

Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 17:43:43 PST

I believe the info I had on Jeremiah and being declared insane came from a

distant cousin Fermin Boring. He gave me a lot of info on the Fiztpatricks

in Columbiana, Carroll and Jackson counties. I cannot say that this is the

same Jeremiah Fitzpatrick's, but I have only come across only one Jeremiah

doing Ohio research. But I continue to track down every bit of evidence I

can find. Fermin was the first person to seem to have long known that

Jeremiah's wifes name was Elizabeth. I don't want to incorporate that info

my database until I know for sure.

As for Prescilla Fitzpatrick, my info comes from 1860 US Census (Ohio), page

380 for Vinton Co, Vinton Twp, Mingo Post Office. Listing her and her

husband David Phillips, children Lydia A, George and John.

The 1870 US Census (Missouri), page 123 for Mercer Co, Madison Twp. Listing

Priscilla Groshong, and children Lydia Phillips, George Phillips, John

Phillips, Sarah Phillips, and Susan Groshong.

In George Fitzpatricks probate records (list of heirs) - Priscilla as

Phillips up to 8 Mar 1866 and Groshong after 7 Apr 1868.

All these census records seem to agree that her birthyear was about 1832.

For some reason I do have incorrect info on my page and I will try to get

that corrected. Thanks for the info. Can you add any additional info on

your Fitzpatrick side?

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From: DeanHickmn@ Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:10:04 EST

Subject: Re: [Re: Mary Ann Holland of Jackson Co.]

To: jwgrace@

From 1880 census:

Adam Fitzpatrick 36 Adam L

Elizabeth 34

Leander 15

Oscar 12

Robert 10 1869-1968 m Eucha Shay 1869-1930

Elmer C 7

Shandon 2 1878-1942 Josephine 1875-?

Later: Stella Fitzpatrick 7-31-1883 (m Jack Mercer….Marie Leach's mom.

FITZPATRICK EUCHA

County Name: JACKSON Date of Death: 11/17/1929 Volume Number: 6141

Certificate Number: 71401

Nextdoor John Fitzpatrick 43

Lebecca 42

Franklin g 17 m Emma Sickles A Philip Leach also m Emma M. Sickles after

Mary O. Swaney

Adolphus 16 (much of his family died of the Spanish flu) m Margaret E

Cramblitt

Didama F 13

Alma A B Haskins 13 stepdaughter

Joseph E Hoover 17 servant

unplaced: Robert Fitzpatrick m Aloneda Dull

William C. Fitzpatrick m Rebecca Boyer

Nextdoor is Hannah Hickman,58, keeping house

Malissa 31,

Hannah R. 20

Robert Hickman 30

Jane 21

Willard F. 2 The name is actually Millard Fillmore (born 10/4/1877)

Geneva M. 1 Listed in the family Bible As Maud G. (G=Grace per my

father)

John Napper 12, servant who my father said was a black/mulatto

He was found hiding in the apple trees and taken in by the

Hickmans.

John Hickman 22 Tombstone for John D. Hickman: 1852-1919

Martha 23 Tombstone for Martha A. in Hickman Cemetery 1857-?

Grace 2/12 born 4-26-1880

Nearby we find:

Elijah Beaty 62 farmer, Rubecca 53 wife, Scott Baker servant

DATE: 04/07/1997 SUBMITTER: Kathy Fitzpatrick

SURNAMES: FITZPATRICK, HUSTON

Robert FITZPATRICK b.1824 d.1890 married Rebecca Huston b. 1826 d.1910.

Buried in Jackson Co. OH.Would like information on both sets of parents and

any other family information.

Nextdoor is George Hickman 25, Tombstone for George R. Hickman 1855-1938

Samantha 20 , Tombstone for Samantha 1859-1918

Edgar E. 9/12

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From: "Dean Hickman" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: John Grace

Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:24:45 -0500

Subject: Re: Lottie Ross

Thanks for the reminiscences. I was never in Greene's store as far as I know.

My father would frequent every place but that particular store. There were

usually closer stores, or he went to town (Jackson mostly). He usually went to

Raymond Willis' store, but not Jim Kight's store. I don't think there was any

love lost there. I know he didn't like the idea of Lottie Ross being a

Kentuckian. My father was very prejudiced and never forgave a slight. He went

to the new Greene's store when he was older. You are right, it is not being run

by the Greene famiIy. The new route 35 was built about 1959. They are planning

to make route 35 a four-lane all the way to Chillicothe.

I seem to remember Phyllis Fitzpatrick lived in the house on the hill off the

first road south of Greene's.

The Deems came in from West Virginia, as did the Hickmans and Rileys and related

families.

Jake Deem had a speech impediment. Abraham Deem is in the censuses about 1870

or 1880.

Mordecai Turvey married Charlotte Deem.

Yes, Angeline Holland was William Holland's daughter. She married Oscar Jerl

Leach and I think later Samuel Lord. Leach information is on the internet.

Gordon Magill initiated it and moved it to Rootsweb. Roy Lynch is interested in

Kentucky families. I don't know whether you have any info on the families he

needs. Roy's mom was a Magill. My father and I probably should have been

called Magill but he was separated from his parents early on so he took Robert

Hickman's family name.

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Posted by Al Knutson on Mon, 22 Nov 1999, in response to MARY ANN 'Polly Ann' JONES, posted by Bettie Confer on Sun, 04 Apr 1999

Surname: Keener Booth Ross Lowe, Jones Patterson Botkin

Susannah was probably the daughter of Ulrich Keener and Elizabeth ?, Ulrich was the son of Peter Keener and Susannah Lowe:

Tentative family list:

Ulrich Keener b c1781, d 17 Jul 1850, m

Elizabeth ?

a Isaac

b Jacob b 22 Dec 1808 TN d 1884 Randolph, IN m 28 Nov 1828, TN

Sarah Booth

c Abraham b 1810 d Wabash IN m Jane

d John W m 29 Jun 1845 Amanda B Ross

e Susannah Low (b 1802-07?)m John M Jones

f Polly W

g Catherine R m 7 Feb 1839 Lorenzo Dow Patterson

Ulrich also had a sister Rachel who married Hugh Botkin (had 13 children) Lived in the Corliss, Randolph co, IN area. (Is this Carlos locale?)

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To: John Grace

From: "tzhyde" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

Subject: Re: Piatt - Ross connection

Dear John- Sorry for the delay. Just recovering from the holiday week-end. I

have only recently found another ROSS-PIATT link which may be of assistance to

you.

Samuel PIATT b 1825 lived in Adams Co., OH-Jefferson Twp. s/o Lewis PIATT, Jr.

and Priscilla NEWMAN

married Elizabeth LIKEN d/o John and Thankful LIKEN who came from PA (The LIKEN

family lived in Jefferson Twp on SE branch of Scioto Brush Creek...they also had

another daughter who married a PIATT-a James A. PIATT-possibly a brother to

Samuel)

Children of Samuel and Elizabeth PIATT

1.Mary Ellinor (Nancy)

2. Lewis C.

3. James A.

4. John E. (married Jane MCDINE ?

5. Lydia A.

6. Benjamin B.

Samuel PIATT also fathered two children by Catherine ROSS (either as a wife or a

mistress)

1. Willian N. b 1859 d. 1932

2. Mary Arminta b 1857

The PIATT-ROSS connection that is stumping me is the marriage of a PIATT to my

gg grandmother, Demaris ROSS PIATT. I have been 'told' that this PIATT was a

James Lewis. All of them are James Lewis! :) My g-grandfather, Michael PIATT

and his brother Henry were 'adopted' by the ZINKHORN family as very young boys.

They were already in the ZINKHON household per the 1880 census. The mother,

Demaris ROSS PIATT, was listed as divorced/widowed in the 1880 Adams Co. census.

She was in the home of her father Hugh ROSS at that time. Hugh ROSS, my 3r

great grandfather, was born ca 1824 in Ireland.

The PIATTs go back to Rene PIATT, French Hugenot, b. ca 1650 in France m 15 Dec

1677 Woodbridge, Middlesex, NJ to Elizabeth Sheffield d. 16 Oct 1705

Piscataway, Middlesex Co., NJ.

See the next e-mail.

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There definitely is a PIATT/ROSS connection which goes back farther than I have

found (mid to late 1800s). I have been unable to locate parents of my ggg

grandfather, Hugh Ross or a specific birthplace or date. Perhaps your John

Nelson ROSS and my Hugh ROSS were, in fact, related. The PIATTs, on the other

hand, were everywhere! Who was the wife of John Nelson ROSS? It was very

common for the wife's maiden name to be given as a middle name to first sons.

It doesn't surprise me at all that there would be PIATTs in KY at that time or

at anytime. They were very prolific. :)

Tammy ZINKHON HYDE

Alliance, OH

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:09:35 -0800

To: JWGRACE@

From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

Subject: Eba (Eby) GRIZZELL/LYONS

Hi John - just getting back to you. I had a letter this week from Pauline

Bailey (Clarence Lyons' daughter and gr-dtr of Jess Lyons and Eby Grizzell)

- she lives at ll0 Clark Hill Ave., Olive Hill, KY 41164. She said:

Eby's parents were James Grizzell and Fannie (Frances ?) Wilhoit. Eby

had a brother, Jim Grizzell (called "Doc"), and two sisters, Hannah, and

Alice (Johnson). Pauline thinks also that Eby had one more sister who

lived out West whom they didn't know.

Pauline says that when Clarence's first wife died leaving him with 5 kids

that Eby and Jess took Pauline and the other 4 to raise, and then 6 months

later Eby and Jess' only daughter, Ruby, died, leaving Jess and Eby her 3

to raise also. She said Eby and Jess were angels on earth to undertake

what they did with 8 kids.

More later...if you write me, do so before January l6 - I'm due in Columbus

at the James Cancer Clinic for more surgery.

Keep in touch,

Nancy B.

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:10:38 -0500

From: "Carl D. Henson" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: John Grace

Subject: Re: Henson family of Portsmouth

Dear John,

I looked over your text listing and saw NO one that I know is my tree. I certainly wouldn't disclaim you as a relative, but I don't see it.

Let me tell you my story about my family. My Great Grandfather William Henson and his family came to Chesapeake, OH in 1847 from

Amherst, VA. His father-in-law and his family came at the same time. That was the Milstead family. My GGrandfather and

GGrandmother parented 13 children. My Grandfather was the youngest that made it to the Census records. Three of his children are still

living, in their 80s and 90s. My Great Great Grandfather Murry Henson lived all his life in an around Amherst, VA. When I got my line

back to Amherst, I discovered a lady that had researched the family, but could get no further back than 2 generations before Murry. My

Hensons were farm laborers and could neither read nor write. Mrs. Rebecca (Henson) Good is descended from another of Murry's sons.

In fact, we never were able to establish a paper connection even to Murry. Mrs. Good had a family story about a son of Murry's, named

William) that moved to Ohio, and they never heard from him again. Murry also had a brother named William. My Wm.'s daughter named

a son, Murray. I feel certain she named him for Murry in Amherst, her grandfather.

When I first started researching my family, I found a William Henson listed on the Briggs Library page in the Census of 1830 and 1840 (I

hope I have the dates right). I assumed that was my guy, until I learned that it could not possibly be him. My theory needs to be checked

at Marietta, Ohio, where they have the records of the Ohio Company that sold land in that part of the state. It is a fact that the Ohio

company had sold all their desireable land by the late 1840s. They had a "blue light special" that lasted until about 1848 on the rocky hilly

less desireable land, so they could close the books and go on to bigger and better things. My theory is that Murry's brother William got to

the Chesapeake area first and found out about the "cheap" land. My William and his father-in-law came and bought some. Wm. owned

acreage up Henson Holler, now called Henson Street, I think. It is a steep, rocky hollow of the hill. This street goes off of Big Branch to

the right and goes roughly in the direction of Getaway. Wm. and his wife are buried at Getaway. Her daddy and mom are buried at Union

Hill. William that I think might have been my GGF's Uncle doesn't show up in Lawrence county census in 1850 or later. I figured that was

the bunch of Hensons that are around Scioto County. I spoke with my Uncle Wilford that lives just outside Chesapeake and he said, "They

are not related to us." It would seem that if Wm.'s Uncle Wm. had told him about the deal on land and was raising his family nearby, that

there would have been enough contact between them for my Uncle to know they were related. However, having said that, Uncle Wilford

denied ever having an Uncle Edward. But I know better. Edward just died before Wilford was born. Several of Murry's descendants that

remained in VA, fought in the Civil War on the Confederate side. Several of them died in that conflict.

In my Hensons, the names John and Henry and John Henry were popular with all the descendants except my GGF. But, his wife named all

those children, not him. She named them after her father, brother and other family members. All of Murry's children named a son, John,

except my Grandfather (but they had only 10 that made the Census).

Well, maybe we will have to go all the way back to England to be cousins, but I don't believe mine will ever get that far back.

All the best, stay in touch,

Carl

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From: "Donald & Lottie Henson" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: "John Grace"

References:

Subject: Re: [Re: [Hensons in Portsmouth, OH.]]

Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:20:29 -0800

John,

Sorry the file didn't make it. I thought sure I had it right. Will send

you the initial information in this letter, and the remainder after I have

talked to my computer expert to learn how to attach a file. The first info

covers my line back to my Great grandparents first seen in Scioto Co in the

1840 census.

I have been totally unable to find parents for my Great grandfather,

although some distant relatives insist his parents are John and Mary. SO I

will start with my Great grandfather, know variously as William J, Willis,

or Will depending on the record you are checking.

William J. Henson (Aka Willis, Will) b. OH or KY 1813. Married Nancy Ann

McMasters b. Mar 31, 1819. M. Jan24 , 1839 in Lawrence Co.

Children:

Zaida Henson, b. 1839 M. Samuel Green July 7, 1866

Mary Henson b. 1841

Martha Henson, b. 1843

Mathes R. Henson, (Aka Matthew, Doc) b. 1845, M. Henrietta Pyle May 9,

1869.

Sophronia Henson, b. Aug 8, 1847 M. Miller Boyd May 1, 1876

Minerva Henson, b Aug 4, 1849 M Joseph Adams

William Henson, b. 1852/53 M. Elizabeth Kellen???

George S. Henson, (Aka Sarch) b. Jan 14, 1854 M. Mary Thompson

Loren Henson, b Jan14, 2854 ( Twin to George)

Ann M. Henson, b. Apr 4, 1856 M. Joseph Morrison

Eliza Belle Henson, b. Sept 8, 1859 M #1 Euphrates Martin #2 Jacob

Gerlach.

Next Generation starting with Mathes Henson (my grandfather):

Mathes R. Henson, born OH May 26, 1845, d. Silver Creek, NE Nov 19,

1919. Married Henrietta Pyle, born Oh Aug 11, 1852, on Nov 18, 1869.

Children:

Ellen Henson, b 1868

James A. (Aka Joseph) b. aug 23, 1870

Nancy Belle Henson, b. Dec 24, 1872 M. Frank Chevalier, died Mar 25,

1946, in Stockton, CA.

William Jasper Henson (my father) b. Jan 8 1877 d. May 2, 1955 in

Omaha, NE. M. #1 Nora Belle Fulk Nov 23, 1903 and #2 Leona Nellie

Wright (my mother) in 1923 following Nora's death in 1921.

Bertha May Henson (Aka Mary) b. mar 4, 1879d. Feb 2, 1918 Tekamah

NE. Married James Barnes.

Frank Gould Henson, (Aka Gould Frank) b Mar 30 1882, M Martha Belle

Tippery on Sept 8, 1921. Died June 4, 1953 , San Andreas, CA.

Olive Gretchen Henson (Aka Gretchen Olive) b. Blair NE, June 4, 1892

d. Tekamah, NE Dec 19, 1915. Never married, schoolteacher.

Hope all this gets throught to you okay, again my apologies for the lost

file. Will send more when I learn a little more about this machine.

All the beat,

Lee

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rootswen contact for Denton & Hunt Marta Jackson Vaillancourt Vmarta@

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From: "Chris Barttels" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: concho@, jwgrace@

Subject: George (son of Jeremiah) Fitzpatrick Family in Missouri

Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 01:29:43 PST

To Gerry Hubacka and John W. Grace,

Thanks for your input and help on my research in the families of Jeremiah

Fitzpatrick. Your help has been extremely appreciated.

I do have what I think is the definitive information on the George

Fitzpatrick family.

I have been researching this family for about ten years now, and I believe

I have it somewhat figured out.

I believe that Jeremiah’s son George is the George that married Ann Pennock

in Columbiana County, 13 Oct 1831. There are at least six documents

relating to the widow of George Fitzpatrick in his final settlement file and

they all refer to her as 'Ann'. I believe the most import is his insciption

at Hamilton Cemetery,(Mercer Co. MO) that reads "FITZPATRICK, George,

husband of Ann...", this I think should settle the Ann-Nancy Ann question.

(I am convinced of this, even though my g2gfathers death certificate states

that his mothers name was Nancy Pickering). I am still open to the

question.

As far as I have been able to determine the only children in this family

were:

Priscilla born about 1832 probably Fox Twp, Columbiana Co., OH

She married David Phillips in Jackson Co, OH, 28 Dec 1851. In the George

Fitzpatrick final settlement papers she is listed as an heir as Priscilla

Phillips, 7 Apr 1868. She apparently later married a Groshong, first name

unkown (still trying to find a Missouri record) sometime before 7 April

1870, when she receives a share of estate as Priscilla Grashong. She and

her husband David are in the 1860 Census, Ohio, Vinton Co, Vinton Twp, Mingo

P.O. with husband David, children Lydia (7 as age), George (5), and John

(2). Again as Grashong in the 1870 Census, Missouri, Mercer Co, Madison

Twp, with the same Phillips children and new child Susan Grashong (3). Both

show that she was born about 1832.

Elizabeth born about 1833 probably in Fox Twp, Columbiana Co., OH

Elizabeth is listed with the George Fitzpatrick family enumerated in the

Census of 1860, Missouri, Mercer Co, Harrison Twp, (page 188). Her age is

given as 27. I have little info on Elizabeth. She apparently married a

George Deo or Deyo, as payment vouchers are made in both names to her

children in the final settlement. Elizabeth death is sometime before 7 Apr

1868 when George Deyo receives payment. Records in Mercer County appear to

be sparse.

Miram born 2 Nov 1836 in Jackson Co, OH

All info comes from Gerry Hubacka and John Grace on her. I do have a

receipt for payment in the final settlement file with her signature as

“Miram”. Would like to know more about her death in “Kansas 28 Jan 1919 and

marriage to Jim McKinney “or Meineke”” She is not in the Fitzpatrick family

of the “1860 Missouri Census”, but is listed among heirs in the final

settlement.

Sarah Jane born abt 1836 again probably in Jackson Co., OH

Sarah Jane married Henderson Devore in Vinton Co, OH, 16 Apr 1857 in Vinton

Co., OH. (IGI) I had run into her during my research and had no idea she

was related until I found her listed as an heir living in Ohio (once as

Devour and again as Devore). Still looking for more info here. I see that

there are DeVore researchers in Carroll Co, OH. Since the Fitzpatrick’s of

Columbiana Co, were of Fox Twp, which is now is Carroll Co, this does make

sense.

Mary Ann born about 1838 in Jackson Co

She married Samuel Devore in Vinton Co, OH, 7 Sep 1858. She is also listed

as an heir living in Ohio in the George Fitzpatrick final settlement file.

(I lost some of my research in a storage unit fire several years ago, and

can’t remember where I got the birth dates for Sarah Jane and Mary Ann but

it may have been in the original files from which the marriage info to the

Devores came from (IGI) specifically)

Jacob born 24 May 1840 in Middleton, Jackson, OH

Jacob is one of the administrators of the George Fitzpatrick estate, and

appears to be the “man of the family” after George’s departure. Probably

over two thirds of the documents in the probate file contain his signature.

I agree completely with his marriage to Sarah Melton, but had no idea about

the second marriage to Frances Roland. He is listed in the 1860 Census with

the family (26 age). His place of internment, when compared to that of his

father, is only seperated by probably 5 or 6 miles. Good work on somebody’s

part. I had researched his possible Civil War involvement, but MO archives

had no record, I was always suspicious I caught a researcher on a bad day.

Nice to know I was right. His cemetery is in the middle of a National

Wildlife Refuge now I believe.

Cassander born about 1843 in Jackson Co, OH

Know so little about Cass, have her signature in final settlement papers I

believe. And she did sign as “Cassander” (I will attach this along with

Miram’s). In the 1860 Census she is in the family (17 age). Sure would

like to know what this girl looked like and why she and Miram could not find

a husband. I rely on your info that she died in Missouri 9 Feb 1924.

Anybody have more info on that? Death certifs? Listed as heir. ( sig

attached)

James H born about 1844 in Jackson Co, OH

James H. is in the family (15), and I always wondered what became of him.

He is not listed as an heir but there is a document with his mark (x)

included referencing a debt to a certain “Conrad Hooter” (attached).

Appears he died in service at Benton Barracks outside St. Louis, looking now

for his CW records.

Robert G. born about 1846 in Jackson Co, OH

After listed as (12 age) in the 1860 Census, nothing more after that?

William A born 12 Mar 1847 in Jackson Co, OH

This is where our information seems to diverge. William Allen Fitzpatrick

was my great3(or4)grandfather. His grand-daughter (my grandmother Nell June

Johnson) heard him talk frequently about his father George and the stories

his father told about ‘his father’ Jeremiah’s adventures in the “early

Ohio area”. We have never heard in our family of William ever having been

married before his marriage to Addie Mae Schreffler. William served for a

few months in the the Civil War (Pension File #700671), married Addie Mae

Schreffler, 13 Oct 1878 in Princeton, Mercer, MO, and died 8 Feb 1928,

Toppenish, Yakima, WA. (I will provide his entire CW Pension file if either

of you would like it, and pay for the copies as well if you like)

Edward G??????

As to the Edward G that I have seen in your listings. I do not believe this

is a part of the George Fitzpatrick family. I have mentioned all the heirs

listed in the final settlement file and find no room for Edward G. In the

1870 Census of Missouri,

Mercer Co, Madison Twp. We find in household 236/235

Fitzpatrick, Miram 34 f OH

Ann 60 f PA

William 22 m OH

Edward 15 m OH

Henry 11 m MO

Ann would be the widow of George, William by g3/4gfather, as to Edward and

Henry...I am of the thinking that this could be a child of Miram, or

possibly even the children of James H or Robert G…I could be wrong(have you

notices that the Fitzpatricks names seem to keep on repeating...have not

seen a previous Edward or Henry) I could be wrong, as I said before,

however, I'm pretty sure that this is not a child of George and Ann.

Otherwise he would surely be shown as an heir in the previously mentioned

records.

Anyway, I am kind of writing this on the fly as I scan records and you may

see all this corrected at a later time, but as of now I believe this to be

pretty definitive.

I am working on a project to put all early Ohio Fitzpatrick’s into a single

database, helping all researchers resolve early Fitzpatrick issues. This

would be an index only, as I don’t think we should freely give away our

years of research. Do you agree or have any problem with this?

Have either of you ever looked into the possible relationship of the four

Fitzpatrick’s in Columbiana Co in the first Ohio Census of 1820 (Jeremiah,

George, Charles and Patrick)? The land patent entries of Jeremiah, George

and in Fox Twp, Charles in Fairfield and patrick in Hanover ). I believe

that Jeremiah and George (who married Elizabeth Saltsman and whose family

later shows up in the same area as our Fitzpatrick’s, have to be related,

and quite possibly brothers). I have never heard of any connection to

Charles or Patrick, but I really believe there has to be one. And what of

all the Fitsptatric/Fitzpatric/Fitzpatricks?

(Highland/Columbiana/Clermont/Preble/Guernsey Counties, 12 all together in

the same census). I am very intrigued by possible relationships. This is

one of the reasons I would like to do a definitive study of early Ohio

Fitzpatrick’s.

Were our Fitzpatrick's Scots-Irish? Quaker? George married Ann Pennock,

and there are Quaker Pennock’s all over that part of what was Columbiana

County. The only Pennock I find real close was a Jacob Penox (a perfect

soundex match).

Just some stuff to mull over.

I was kind of playing around with “relationship calculator” in my PAF 4

program and found that we are all probably 2nd cousins 3 times removed.

Truly your cousin

Christopher Barttels

PS-Please refer to me as Chris. I just use the ‘Christopher’ to

distinguish gender. If you would like the complete George Fitzpatrick

'final settlement' papers I would be more than glad to copy and pass them

on.

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From: Lora Jeffries Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: "'John W. Grace'"

Subject: RE: Denton - Hunt - Ross families in Indiana

Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:43:10 -0500

John,

I was born and raised in Randolph Co. IN. My line is : Lora Hunt

Jeffries--Clyde Hunt--Bazel Hunt--John Fletcher Hunt--William Basil Hunt--John

Tipton Hunt--John Hunt, Sr. That's a far back as I have documentation although

others have names going back into MD. William Basil (called Basil) Hunt bought

land in Randolph Co. IN in the 1830's and his son, John Fletcher (called Fletch)

moved from Fleming Co. KY to Randolph Co. to manage it. Basil later moved to

Randolph Co. and died there. I can attach what I have to an e mail if you are

interested in more.

Lora Hunt Jeffries

32 Lansdowne Lane

Carmel, IN 46033

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From: VMarta@ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:45:03 EST Subject: Re: [Re: Hunt-Denton surnames] To: jwgrace@

Hello John,

I am pasting below what I have on William DENTON and his wife Mary "Polly" HUNT (my 5th great uncle and aunt) so that you could see that their daughter Elizabeth (DENTON) VANLANDINGHAM could have had her brother William DENTON be the signer on the John Nelson ROSS marriage bond in 1839.

I have forwarded all of your information to John VICE who provided much info to me on this line, and he might be able to fill in some blank spaces here.

I have my own ROSS mystery, and hope that you can help me. I just discovered that my grandmother Lillie Russell (STRAHAN) JACKSON was first married to a Charles? ROSS in Randolph Co.? Indiana. He was born ca 1885 and they must have married ca 1907 in Randolph Co., IN. I have not been able to stir up anything on this person so let me know if you have any clues. Take care, Marta (see info mentioned above, now pasted below)

First Generation

1. William DENTON. Born in 1781 in Tennessee.1 William died in Bath Co., KY on 24 Aug 1825; he was 44.2 Buried in Edens Chapel Cemetary,near Sunset, Fleming Co., KY.3

-source2shows that William and Mary Polly were married in Bath Co., KY

-source shows a birthyear as 1778 in Virginia3

On 21 Jun 1798 when William was 17, he married Mary "Polly" HUNT4, daughter of John HUNT & Mary OVERALL, in Fleming Co., KY.3 Born in 1776 in TN.3,1 Mary "Polly" died in Randolph County, IN aft 1828; she was 52.2 Buried in Indiana.

-source Bonnie Everhart shows a birthyear as 1779 in NC5

-this source shows the birthyear as 17831and 5

-source shows the birthplace as Shenandoah Co., Virginia Colony, England3

They had the following children:

i. John T.3. Born on 18 Aug 1799 in KY.3 John T. died in KY on 7 Jul 1884; he was 84.3 Buried in Edens Chapel Cemetary,near Sunset, Fleming Co., KY.3

-John and Sarah had the following children:

12 i. JAMES (1824-)

13 ii. WILLIAM P. (1826-)

14 iii. ELIZA J. (1827-1914)

15 iv. SARAH (Sally) (1828-)

16 v. JOHN P. (1830-)

17 vi. NEWTON (1832-)3

On 11 Dec 1823 when John T. was 24, he married Sarah Iva PICKERELL3, in Fleming Co., KY.3 Born on 20 May 1801.3 Sarah Iva died on 21 Feb 1874; she was 72.3

2 ii. Sarah (1800-1884)

iii. Elizabeth3. Born in 1803/1804 in KY.3

In 1820 when Elizabeth was 17, she married James VANLANDINGHAM6.6

-James and Elizabeth signed a marriage bond (as did Elizabeths brother (?) William DENTON) for John Nelson ROSS in 1839 when he married Nancy Jane

KINNAMON, and James and Elizabeth refer to John as my son.6

iv. James3. Born on 23 Jan 1806 in Fleming Co., KY.3

-James and Selina had the following children:

28 i. BERTIS R. (1844-1926)

29 ii. RALEIGH WALTON (1850-1924)

30 iii. MARY A. (1852-1853)

31 iv. WILLIAM P. (1856-1856)3

On 7 Jun 1849 when James was 43, he married Salina WALTON3, in Fleming Co.,

KY.3 Born on 11 Dec 1827.3 Salina died on 2 May 1860; she was 32.3

3 v. William (1810-1886)

vi. Hiram3. Born on 5 Aug 1811 in KY.3 Hiram died in KY in Jun 1881;

he was 69.3 Buried in Denton Cemetary, Ringos Mill, Fleming Co., KY.3

-Hiram and Rebecca had the following children:

33 i. MARY JANE (1833-1869)

34 ii. ELIZA ANN (1834-1904)

35 iii. SARAH (~1837-)

36 iv. ALVINA (~1839-)

37 v. EPHRAIM A. (1841-1867)

38 vi. WILLIAM WALLACE (1843-1921)

39 vii. REBECCA ELLEN (1844-1892)

40 viii. CLAYSEPHINE (1846-1923)

41 ix. GEORGE ANN (1848-1934)3

Hiram married Rebecca ROYCE3. Born on 9 Oct 1811 in KY.3 Rebecca died on 19

Nov 1888; she was 77.3

vii. Jonathan3. Born on 13 Apr 1814 in KY.3 Jonathan died in KY on

28 May 1855; he was 41.3 Buried in Edens Chapel Cemetary,near Sunset, Fleming

Co., KY.3

-Jonathan and Elizabeth had the following children:

33 i. MARY JANE (1833-1869)

34 ii. ELIZA ANN (1834-1904)

35 iii. SARAH (~1837-)

36 iv. ALVINA (~1839-)

37 v. EPHRAIM A. (1841-1867)

38 vi. WILLIAM WALLACE (1843-1921)

39 vii. REBECCA ELLEN (1844-1892)

40 viii. CLAYSEPHINE (1846-1923)

41 ix. GEORGE ANN (1848-1934)3

On 13 Jun 1836 when Jonathan was 22, he married Elizabeth Betty PERKINS3, in

Bath Co., KY.3

viii. Abraham3. Born in 1816 in KY.3 Abraham died in Bath Co., KY

in 1856; he was 40.3 Buried in Edens Chapel Cemetary,near Sunset, Fleming

Co., KY.3

-Abraham and Elizabeth had the following children:

45 i. ALFRED A.

46 ii. WELLINGTON

47 iii. ELIZABETH ELLEN (1848-)

48 iv. JOHN F. (1850-)3

On 14 Mar 1833 when Abraham was 17, he married Elizabeth BARBER3, in Bath

Co., KY.3

ix. Francis G.3. Born in 1818 in KY.3 Francis G. died on 8 May 1891;

he was 73.3

-Francis and Frances had:

had the following children:

49 i. ASHER O. (1839-1880)

50 ii. WILLIAM (1840-1851)

51 iii. MARTHA (1841-1902)

52 iv. MARY C. (1842-1914)

53 v. JAMES B. (1845-1912)

54 vi. SAMUEL (1847-1878)

55 vii. MARGARET ANN (1849-1881)

56 viii. SARAH S. (1852-1889)

57 ix. WILLIAM A. (1854-1922)

58 x. JONATHAN (1856-1873) (more info on these children on D gedcom

register in file)3

On 19 Mar 1838 when Francis G. was 20, he married Frances (Fannie) RAWLINGS3,

in Fleming Co., KY.3 Born in Aug 1815 in KY.3 Frances (Fannie) died in

Fleming Co., KY on 17 Sep 1889; she was 74.3

x. George Washington3. Born in 1821 in KY.3

-George and Sarah had the following children:

59 i. WILLIAM (1850-)

60 ii. WESLEY A. (1853-)

61 iii. MARY J. (1858-)3

George Washington married Sarah DENTON3.

4 xi. Eleanor (1817-1866)

Second Generation

2. Sarah DENTON.1 Born on 18 Dec 1800 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky.7,3 Sarah

died in Randolph Co., IN on 7 Jul 1884; she was 83.3 Buried in Huntsville

Cemetery, Randolph County, IN.1

-in 1850 Sarah, the widow of Reuben Hunt, was living in Nettle Creek

Township, Randolph County, IN7

-sourc shows a birthyear as 18013

On 10 Dec 1818 when Sarah was 17, she married Reuben HUNT8, son of Col. John

Tipton HUNT Jr. & Mary (Polly) DENTON, in Fleming County, KY.1 Born on 24 Dec

1795 in Fleming County, KY.1 Reuben died in Huntsville, Randolph County, IN

on 27 Sep 1846; he was 50.1 Buried in Huntsville Cemetery, Randolph Co, IN.7

Occupation: farmer.

-was a farmer near Modoc, IN and he was considered to be the one who laid out

Flemingburg, IN which is an old town that is extinct about 4 miles from the

old town of Losantville, IN1

-Barbara Broman shows a marriage year of 18218

-source3 shows a birthplace as Mason Co., KY

-source2 shows he and Sarah were married in Bath Co., KY

They had the following children:

i. Permelia (Permeley?)3. Born ca 1819 in Fleming County, Kentucky.3

Permelia (Permeley?) died in Randolph County, IN in 1848; she was 29.3 Buried

in Randolph County, IN.3

On 17 Mar 1837 when Permelia (Permeley?) was 18, she married Anthony Houston

MARKWELL3, in Randolph County, IN.3 Born on 7 Apr 1814 in KY.3 Anthony

Houston died in Iowa in Aug 1881; he was 67.3 Buried in North English, Iowa

Co, Iowa.3

-children of Permelia and Anthony were:

80 i. SARAH E. (1838-1886)

81 ii. ASENATH (1839-1908)

82 iii. MARY (1843-)

83 iv. JAMES W. (1844-1922)

84 v. ROBERT F. (1848-~1869)3

ii. Reuben3. Born ca 1821 in Fleming County, Kentucky.3 Reuben died

in KY.3 Buried in KY.3

5 iii. Allen Smith (1822-)

iv. Asenath3. Born ca 1824 in Fleming Co., KY.3 Asenath died in

Fleming Co., KY on 14 Jun 1825; she was 1.3 Buried in Crain Cemetary,

Hillsboro, Fleming Co., KY.3

-source2shows this first name spelled Asenith

v. John Marion1. Born ca 1826 in Fleming County, KY.3 John Marion

died in Fleming Co., Kentucky bef 1850; he was 24.2,3 Buried in Fleming

County, KY.3

vi. Duana8. Born in 1828 in Fleming County, KY.8,3

-Lora Hunt Jeffries is spelling the first name as "Duhanner"1

-source3 shows the first name spelling as "Duhanner"

-source2shows the first name spelled Duannah

6 vii. William Denton (1826-)

viii. Mary Ann1. Born on 1 Feb 1833 in Randolph Co., IN.1,3 Mary

Ann died on 7 Apr 1906; she was 73.1

On 3 Jan 1858 when Mary Ann was 24, she married William Henry FAY1, in

Randolph Co., Indiana.3 William Henry died on 26 Mar 1919.3

-children of William and Mary Ann are:

89 i. SHELBY KESTER (-1940)

90 ii. HARVEY (1871-)3

ix. Elvira8. Born in 1836 in Randolph Co., IN.8,3

On 15 Jun 1865 when Elvira was 29, she married John Wesley DENTON3, son of

William DENTON & Elizabeth BOTKIN, in Blackford Co, IN.3 Born on 19 Apr 1838.3

-source shows a marriage year of 18631

x. Absolom Wiley1. Born in 1831 in Randolph Co., IN.1,3

-sources3 and 2 show a birthyear as 1840

Absolom Wiley married Rachel J. JORDAN1. Born ca 1837.2

3. William DENTON Jr.3 Born in 1810 in Fleming Co., KY.3 William died in

Howard, Elk Co., KS in Feb 1886; he was 76.3

On 29 Jun 1831 when William was 21, he married Catherine BARBER3, in Bath

Co., KY.3

They had one child:

i. James F.3.

4. Eleanor DENTON.2 Born in 1817 in Fleming Co., KY.2 Eleanor died in 1866;

she was 49.2

In 1837 when Eleanor was 20, she married James VANLANDINGHAM, son of William

VANLANDINGHAM & Martha DENTON, in Fleming Co., Kentucky.2 Born in 1811 in

Kentucky.2 James died in Huntsville, Randolph Co., IN on 8 Mar 1880; he was

69.2 Buried in Huntsville Cemetery, Randolph County, Indiana.

-came to Randolph County, Indiana in 1852

They had the following children:

i. Robert2.

ii. William2. Born in 1838.2 William died in 1879; he was 41.2

7 iii. Martha Jane (1839-1882)

iv. Edmond2. Born in 1841.2

-children of Edmond and Lovina were: James (1875), Lillie F. (1878), and

Mary Etta VANLANDINGHAM2

Edmond married Lovina2. Born in 1852.2

v. Margaret2. Born in 1842.2 Margaret died in 1873; she was 31.2

vi. Jeremiah2. Born in 1844.2 Jeremiah died in 1875; he was 31.2

vii. George2. Born in 1846.2

viii. Richard2. Born in 1848.2

Third Generation

5. Allen Smith HUNT.1 Born in 1822 in Fleming Co., Kentucky.8,3 Allen Smith

died in Indiana.1 Buried in Buena Vista Cemetery, Randolph County, IN.1

Occupation: farmer.9 Religion: Methodist.1

-in 1845 he and his wife filed on land in Clinton County. 8

On 19 Apr 1846 when Allen Smith was 24, he married Mary Jane HUNT8, daughter

of Hiram HUNT & Nancy Jane HUNT, in Randolph County, IN.8 Born in 1822 in

Fleming Co., Kentucky.8,3 Mary Jane died in Randolph Co., Indiana in 1906;

she was 84.3 Buried in Buena Vista Cemetery, Randolph County, IN.1

-source2shows a deathdate of 1903

They had the following children:

8 i. Frances Marion (Frank) (1849-1931)

9 ii. Thomas Martin (1851-)

iii. Hiram Calvin8.

iv. Acenath8. Born ca 1824 in Fleming Co., Kentucky.3 Acenath died in

Fleming Co., Kentucky on 14 Jun 1825; she was 1.3 Buried in Crain Cemetery,

near Hillsboro, Fleming Co., KY.3

-source3 shows the first name spelled Asenath

6. William Denton HUNT.8 Born in 1826 in Kentucky.8,1

-Lora Hunt Jeffries shows a birthyear as 18301

-source3 shows a birthyear as 1830

-source2shows a birthyear of 1820

In May 1856 when William Denton was 30, he married Esther A. HEATON2, in

Randolph County, IN.3,1 Born in 1839.3

-source 1shows a surname of HESTON

They had the following children:

i. Reubin3. Born in 1857 in Nettle Township, Randolph Co., IN.3

ii. William3. William died aft 1935.3

7. Martha Jane VANLANDINGHAM.2 Born in 1839 in Fleming County, KY.2 Martha

Jane died on 10 Jan 1882; she was 43.2

-there is a drawing of Martha on page 440 of this source book10

On 27 Dec 1868 when Martha Jane was 29, she married Henry Clay HUNT MD, son

of Miles H. HUNT & Mary Lowe BOTKIN. Born on 27 Jul 1839 in Huntsville,

Randolph County, Indiana.11 Henry Clay died in Oklahome City, Oklahoma Co.,

OK on 2 May 1916; he was 76.3 Buried in Fairlawn Cemetery, Oklahoma City,

Oklahoma Co., OK.3

-there is a drawing of Dr. H. C. Hunt on page 440 in this source book10

-received hi education from the Randolph County schools

-he enlisted in Company D, Sixty-ninth Regiment Indiana Volunteers and was

severely wounded in the left limb at the battle of Richmond, KY from which he

never recovered. He received an honorable discharge in the spring of 1863

-From the fall of 1863 to 1865, he taught in the public schools of Illinois,

after which he returned to Huntsville, Ind. and began the study of medicine

under Dr. Eikenberg. In the fall of 1867 and winter of 1868, he attended the

Eclectic Medical Institute at Cincinnati, OH. He began the practice of

medicine in Losantville, Randolph County, IN in the spring of 1868. He

continued to practice at the above named place until 1873, when he returned

to Huntsville

to practice as a physician and surgeon

-Lora Hunt Jeffries shows a birthyear of 18371

They had the following children:

i. Lauretta Winona2. Born on 27 Oct 1870.2

Lauretta Winona married Ambrose K. WELLS2.

ii. Lola Ella2. Born on 16 Nov 1872. Lola Ella died in 1915; she was

42.2

Fourth Generation

8. Frances Marion (Frank) HUNT.8 Born in 1849 in Randolph Co., IN.3 Frances

Marion (Frank) died in Randolph Co., IN on 9 Dec 1931; he was 82.3 Buried in

Union Cemetery, near Windsor, Randolph Co., IN.3

On 17 Apr 1869 when Frances Marion (Frank) was 20, he first married Nancy

Jane WILLIAMS3, in Randolph Co., IN.3 Nancy Jane died bef 1889.3 Buried in

Buena Vista Cemetery, Modoc, Randolph Co., IN.3

They had the following children:

i. Gertrude1

ii. John Dexter1

iii. Thomas1 (ca1875-)

On 1 Sep 1889 when Frances Marion (Frank) was 40, he second married Mary PATTY

3, in Randolph Co., IN.3 Born in 1860.3

On 2 Jan 1899 when Frances Marion (Frank) was 50, he third married Mary

Adaline ADAMS3, in Delaware Co., IN.3

9. Thomas Martin HUNT MD.3 Born in 1851 in IN.3 Buried in Buena Vista

Cemetery, Randolph County, IN. Occupation: physician in Winchester, IN.1

On 22 Feb 1871 when Thomas Martin was 20, he first married Melissa Ann COUGILL

3, in Randolph Co., IN.3 Born on 5 Aug 1851.3 Melissa Ann died on 20 Aug

1879; she was 28.3 Buried in Buena Vista Cemetery, Randolph County, IN.1

They had the following children:

i. Elizabeth1

ii. Frank1

iii. Talmadge D.1 (-1974)

iv. Calvin L.1 (1871-1939)

Thomas Martin second married Molly PAINTER3.

SOURCES:

1. Lora Hunt Jeffries, 32 Lansdowne Lane, Carmel, IN 46022 (317) 844-1686

(email-lora@)

2. Bette J. S. Oden, 41250 McDowell Creek Drive, Lebanon, Oregon 97355-9747

(103221.752@).

3. John Vice, RR #2, Box 141, Ewing (Fleming Co.), KY 41039

(johnvice@)

4. Paul M. Gerrish, 438 Percival Street NW, Olympia, Washington 98502-4856

5. Bonnie Jean Holt Everhart, 200 Fairview Street, Clinton, N.C. 28328

910-590-2457 (bjehart@)

6. John W. Grace (jwgrace@).

7. Immogene Hannan Brown, Alexandria, Indiana (from the HUNT/DENTON document

she researched in 1969-this woman is now deceased)

8. Barbara Broman, 302 Northwood Drive, Bluffton, IN 46714 (email

-ranbro@)

9. Judy (C6555@).

10. E. Tucker, HISTORY OF RANDOLPH COUNTY, INDIANA with Illustrations and

Biographical Sketches, A. L. Kingman, Lakeside Building, Chicago, IL (1882).

Tucker's History of Randolph County

11. E. Tucker, HISTORY OF RANDOLPH COUNTY, INDIANA with Illustrations and

Biographical Sketches, A. L. Kingman, Lakeside Building, Chicago, IL (1882),

p. 400.

Tucker's History of Randolph County

More info with sources noted, for you. Marta

First Generation

1. Rev. Reuben HUNT. (son of John HUNT 1736-1807 and Mary OVERALL 1731-1790)

Born in 1767 in Old Frederick County, now Shenandoah County, VA.1,2 Reuben

died in Fleming County, KY in 1825; he was 58.2,3 Buried in Buck Creek, Bath

County, KY.2 Occupation: Methodist circuit rider.2 Religion: Methodist.2

-Barbara Broman shows deathyears as 18251

-Barbara Broman shows Fleming County, KY as place of death1

-Barbara Broman shows birthplace as Old Frederick County, VA1

-in 1787, he signed a North Carolina public bill supporting the erection of a

new government, and in 1796 the western area of North Carolina broke away and

became the state of Tennessee.1

-Reuben and Nancy were probably buried in unmarked graves near their home on

Buck Creek. The area is now under the water of Cave Run Lake.2

-Immogene Hannan Brown shows Reuben buried in Virginia3

-source4 shows the first name spelled "Rubin" and that he died in 1824 in

Buck Creek, Bath Co., KY4

-source5 shows that Reuben was buried at Buck Creek, Menifee Co., KY

-source4 shows that Reuben died at Buck Creek, Bath Co, KY

-source states that Reuben and Nancy were married in Washington District,

which was then NC6

In 1786 when Reuben was 19, he married Nancy DENTON1, daughter of James

DENTON (1735-1834) & Elizabeth OVERALL (1745-1798), in Eastern Tennessee

territory.2,3 Born in 1765. Nancy died in Buck Creek, Bath Co., KY in 1830;

she was 65.4 Buried in Buck Creek, Bath County, KY.2

-said to have been 1st cousin of Reuben3

-source4 shows the surname of this Nancy as DEATON

-source5 shows this surname as Nancy DEATON

-source shows a birthyear as 17706

They had the following children:

2 i. Jeremiah Uncle Jerry (1787-1855)

3 ii. Hester (1787-)

iii. Rebecca2. Born in 1792 in North Carolina.6,4 Rebecca died in

Fleming Co., KY on 3 Sep 1856; she was 64.4 Buried in Royse Cemetery, Ringos

Mills,Fleming Co., KY.4

-source lists Washington District, TN as Rebeccas place of birth6

On 21 Feb 1810 when Rebecca was 18, she married Aaron ROYCE6, in Fleming Co.,

KY.6

iv. Elizabeth2. Born in 1806 in Fleming Co., KY.6,4 Elizabeth died

aft 1880; she was 74.4

In 1826 when Elizabeth was 20, she married John MCCLERG6, in KY.6

v. Reuben2. Born in 1794 in Bath Co. KY.7 Reuben died in Schultz

Creek, Greenup, KY on 27 Sep 1841; he was 47.7 Buried in Bennetts

Chapel/Nippert Family Cemetery, Greenup, KY.7

-moved to Greenup, KY in approx 1826-1830 (after the death of his father

Reuben, Sr). He appears there with his brother Samuel B. HUNT but his

brother does not remain there) and this source has a copy of the marriage

certificate whowing he was married by his father in 1813. A copy of all of

Reuben and Hannahs children are shown, down to the 1990s, in a disk in this sources file7

-source shows a birthyear as 17936

On 24 Aug 1813 when Reuben was 19, he married Hannah JARVIS7, daughter of Solomon JARVIS, in Fleming Co., KY.6 Born in 1795 in KY.7 Hannah died in Schultz Creek, Greenup, KY bef 1870; she was 75.7 Buried in Bennetts Chapel/Nippert Family Cemetery, Greenup, KY.7

-source4 shows a birthyear of 1796

-source shows this surname as JARVIN6

vi. Samuel B.4. Born in 1795 in KY.6,4 Samuel B. died bef 1833; he was 38.4

-moved to Greenup, KY with his brother Reuben Hunt, Jr. some time after the death of their father between 1826 and 1830 but Samuel does not remain there7

On 2 Oct 1822 when Samuel B. was 27, he married Jane TARBERT6.6

vii. Mary (Polly )4. Born in 1800 in Montgomery Co., KY.6,4 Mary (Polly ) died in Greenup Co., KY on 22 May 1852; she was 52.4 Buried in Greenup Co., KY.4

On 21 Sep 1822 when Mary (Polly ) was 22, she married Anthony Anderson MATTHEWS6, in Bath Co., KY.6

viii. Ezekiel4. Born on 3 Jul 1797 in KY.4 Ezekiel died in Polk Co., Iowa on 1 Aug 1874; he was 77.4 Buried in Ridgedale Cemetery, Polk Co., Iowa.4

On 27 Sep 1820 when Ezekiel was 23, he married Mary JOHNSON6, in Fleming Co., KY.6

ix. Phebe6. Born in 1804 in KY.6

-source shows this name spelled Phebe HUNT2

On 1 Mar 1827 when Phebe was 23, she married John JOHNSON6, in Bath Co., KY.6

x. Joseph D.4. Born in 1809 in Montgomery Co., KY.4

On 7 Dec 1826 when Joseph D. was 17, he first married Rebecca Ray WILLIAMS6, in Bath Co., KY.6

On 8 Dec 1850 when Joseph D. was 41, he second married Mary LEE6, in Morgan Co., KY.6

On 31 May 1855 when Joseph D. was 46, he third married Malinda KNAPP6, in Morgan Co., KY.6

4 xi. William Spencer (1813-1871)

xii. Nancy2. Born in 1814 in Bath Co., KY.6,4 Nancy died in 1845; she was 31.6

On 11 Feb 1837 when Nancy was 23, she married James BENSON6, in Morgan Co., KY.6

Second Generation

2. Rev. Jeremiah Uncle Jerry HUNT.6 Born in 1787 in Washington District, TN.6

Jeremiah Uncle Jerry died in Fleming Co., KY in 1855; he was 68.6

On 27 Oct 1805 when Jeremiah Uncle Jerry was 18, he married Mary ROSS6, daughter of John Piat ROSS & Susannah PIAT, in Fleming Co., KY.6 Born in 1786 in VA.6 Mary died in Bath Co., KY in 1865; she was 79.6

They had the following children:

i. Elizabeth6. Born in 1806.6

ii. Nancy6. Born on 4 Oct 1810.6

iii. Ruben6. Born in 1811.6

iv. Isaac6. Born in 1812.6

v. Hester6. Born in 1815.6

vi. John R.6. Born in 1818.6

vii. Louis6. Born in 1820.6

viii. Denton6. Born in 1823 in KY.6 Denton died in Bath Co., KY in 1891; he was 68.6

-the children of Denton and Martha were:

1.Franklin HUNT

2.Jeremiah HUNT

3.Nancy B. HUNT

4.Elizabeth HUNT

5.Louis HUNT

6.Joseph B. HUNT

7.Mary Jane HUNT

8.William R. HUNT

9.Thomas HUNT

10.Louisa Maria Magonna HUNT

11.John Ross HUNT (more information on these children can be found at this

sources website)6

On 28 Nov 1843 when Denton was 20, he married Martha Ann TINCER6, in Bath Co., KY.6 Born in Oct 1828 in KY.6 Martha Ann died in Bath Co., KY in 1900; she was 71.6

3. Hester HUNT.2 Born in 1787 in Washington District, North Carolina.6,4

-source shows this first name as Esther and that she was born in South Carolina6

-source shows this name as Esther/Hester8

On 10 Jan 1812 when Hester was 25, she first married John GREEN6, in KY.6 John died in 1817.6

They had one child:

i. Amelia6.

Hester second married Landy MARKWELL6. Landy died in 1818.6

They had the following children:

i. Joel6.

5 ii. Landy Hurst

On 11 Aug 1820 when Hester was 33, she third married William Thatcher HIATT6, son of William HIATT & Elizabeth Betsy THATCHER, in KY.6,8 Born in 1799.8

-William came from Pa to OH and back to KY being in Mason Co. Fleming Co., and other counties in KY.8

-William "Thatcher" Hiatt then left his family taking one of his sons with him to OH on business and forgot to come home again. He married again in Gallia Co., OH to one Jemima Johnston and had another family. They are in the

1840 GAllia Co. OH Census but are gone by 1850.8

They had the following children:

6 i. Josiah A. (1825-)

ii. William Thatcher. Born in 1821.

4. William Spencer HUNT.4 Born on 6 Oct 1813 in Fleming Co., KY.4 William Spencer died in Buck Creek, Bath Co., KY on 22 Feb 1871; he was 57.6,4 Buried in Ginter Cemetery, Leatherwood, Menifee Co, KY.4

On 25 Apr 1832 when William Spencer was 18, he first married Catherine Godfrey WILLIAMS6, in Bath Co., KY.6

They had one child:

i. Joseph Gill Williams6.

Joseph Gill Williams married Mary Ethel WILLIAMS6, daughter of WILLIAMS & Sarah Sinclair HUNT.

On 25 Feb 1858 when William Spencer was 44, he second married Sarah Sinclair HUNT6, in KY.6

Third Generation

5. Landy Hurst MARKWELL.3

Landy Hurst married Elizabeth FLEMING3.

They had one child:

i. John Wesley1 (1808-1875)

6. Josiah A. HIATT.6 Born in 1825 in KY.6

Josiah A. married Charlotte GREGORY6.

They had the following children:

i. James Elihu6 (1845-1910)

ii. Muhulda Mulvina6 (1845-)

iii. Jonathan L.6 (1847-)

iv. Vian Jelane6 (1850-1880)

v. Benjamin M.6 (1852-)

vi. Rose A.6 (1855-)

vii. W. A.6 (1856-)

viii. Queen L.6 (1858-)

ix. Ann (F.M.)6 (1860-)

Sources:

1. Barbara Broman, 302 Northwood Drive, Bluffton, IN 46714 (email -ranbro@)

2. Lora Hunt Jeffries, 32 Lansdowne Lane, Carmel, IN 46022 (317) 844-1686 (email-lora@)

3. Immogene Hannan Brown, Alexandria, Indiana (from the HUNT/DENTON document she researched in 1969-this woman is now deceased)

4. John Vice, RR #2, Box 141, Ewing (Fleming Co.), KY 41039 (johnvice@)

5. Phyllis Hopper, 13520 S.E. LeAnn Court, Boring, Oregon 97009 (Gramagator@)

6. Sue Montgomery Cook, 2020 Bay Drive, Bradenton, Fl 34207 (CTKF67B@) ()

7. Joseph Amburgey, RR #1, Box 485, South Shore, KY 41175 (jamburg@)

8. Lynn Blansett Messina(lblansett@).r Details

More.....Marta

First Generation

1. William VANLANDINGHAM.1 Born in 1775/1780 in Rochingham Court House, NC.1

William died in Bath Co., KY in 1840/1850; he was 65.1

ca 1799 when William was 24, he married Martha DENTON1, daughter of James

DENTON & Elizabeth OVERALL, in Washington Co., TN.1 Born on 24 Feb 1783 in

Holston River, Washington, TN.1 Martha died in Huntsville, Randolph Co., IN

on 14 Oct 1875; she was 92.1

They had the following children:

2 i. Susan (1800-1878)

3 ii. Jeremiah (1801->1883)

iii. Mary1. Born on 4 Jan 1804 in Bath Co., KY.1 Mary died in Randolph Co., IN on 27 Jul 1870; she was 66.1

On 27 Jul 1828 when Mary was 24, she married William OAKERSON1, in Bath Co., KY.1 Born in 1808.1

-source1shows the surname spelled OKERSON and William and Marys children were: John A. (1830-1871), William (1832), James F. (1835), Jasper (1838), Eber (1840), and Alford (1843) OKERSON

4 iv. James (1811-1880)

v. Sarah1. Born on 14 Mar 1818 in KY.1 Sarah died in Fleming Co., Kentucky on 7 Apr 1899; she was 81.1

On 2 Jun 1839 when Sarah was 21, she married Presley RAWLINGS1, in Fleming Co., Kentucky.1 Born in 1813.1 Presley died in 1881; he was 68.1

-children of Sarah and Presley are shown from their children down in this sources files1

5 vi. Minerva (1821-)

vii. Martha1. Born in 1823 in Bath Co, KY.1 Martha died in Randolph Co., IN.1

On 2 Jun 1839 when Martha was 16, she married William RAWLINGS1, in Fleming Co., Kentucky.1 Born in 1821.1

-children of William and Martha were: Jeremiah (1843), James Denton (1846), Aaron (1849), William (1852), Mary Elizabeth (1857), John Denton (1861), and Oliver (1864) RAWLINGS1

Second Generation

2. Susan VANLANDINGHAM.1 Born in 1800 in Washington Co., TN.1 Susan died in Huntsville, Randolph Co., IN on 1 Jan 1878; she was 78.1

On 20 Mar 1824 when Susan was 24, she married Ebenezer ATKINS1, in Fleming Co., Kentucky.1 Born in 1801.1 Ebenezer died in 1852; he was 51.1

-this line on down to present from Ebenezer and Susan in this sources file1 -moved to Randolph Co., IN ca 1847 and then many members of Ebenezers family moved to NW Missouri1

They had the following children:

6 i. Martha Francis

ii. Mary Polly1. -never married1

iii. William1.

William married Sophiara HUITT1.

iv. Nancy Ann1. Nancy Ann died on 8 Sep 1855.1

v. Catherine1.

Catherine married Martin V. BUSSEAR1.

vi. Oliver1. Oliver died on 12 Feb 1865.1

vii. Elizabeth1. Born in 1841 in Fleming Co.,KY.1 Elizabeth died in 1917; she was 76.1

-this surname has been shown as ADKINS by some researchers

-Is the name Elsworth Atkins familiar to you? He would have been born about 1862 in IN, his mother b.KY and father b.KY. From census info. I have he is listed as step-son for Benjamin Peacock. So I had always assumed that Elizabeth b. Dec 1840 in KY who is listed as Benjamin's wife was a widow of an Atkins. This is why I ask about the Davis??2

Elizabeth first married DAVIS1.

Elizabeth second married Benjamin PEACOCK3, son of Judge William PEACOCK & Catherine EDMONDS, in MO. Born in Jul 1826 in Randolph Co., IN.3 Benjamin died in Union Star, MO in 1901; he was 74.4 Buried in Union Star Cemetery, Union Star, MO.4 Occupation: farmer.5

-moved to rural Andrew Co., Missouri after the Civil War5 -source shows that this Benjamin was born in Aug. 18552

viii. Caroline1.

Caroline married James W. DENNY1.

ix. Evaline1.

Evaline married Jonathan WINE1.

x. Jeremiah Jame Logan1.

Jeremiah Jame Logan married Willane DENTON1.

3. Jeremiah VANLANDINGHAM.1 Born in May 1801 in Fleming Co., Kentucky.1

Jeremiah died aft 1883; he was 81.1

-source shows a marriage date to Nancy as 22 Sept 18306

In 1822 when Jeremiah was 20, he married Nancy DENTON1, daughter of Abraham DENTON & Sarah (Sally) HUNT, in Fleming Co., KY.1 Born in 1804 in Fleming Co., KY.6,1 Nancy died in Marion, IN ca 1874; she was 70.1

They had the following children:

7 i. Woodford (1828-

From: DeanHickmn@

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:22:04 EST

Subject: Archibald Willis

To: prswigert@

CC: ann_hinton@

I have 2 marriages for an Archibald Willis in Jackson County:

Hannah E. Turvey 4 Apr 1872

Emma Cary 2 Dec 1880 (Archibald J. Willis)

In the 1880 census Emma is listed:

Abraham Boyer 58, Sarah 62, Emma Cary 17 servant

In 1870 I have

Mordecai Turvey 37 #103 born in Ohio!!! died within a couple years.

Charlotte 38 She and the others born Virginia.

George W 21 engineer

Caroline 18

Hannah 15 m Archibald Willis

James L 13

Josephine 11 m Elmore C Wortman 23 Dec 1880 Vinton Co?

George B 9

Ellen 7 m Frank G Fitzpatrick 30 Dec 1883

Louisa 5

Ida T 3 born Ohio Ida F m Robert S Leach 8 Sep 1885

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Posted by: Katherine Cornelius

Date: April 10, 2000 at 13:13:35

In Reply to: Re: APPLEGATE/FRENCH in Mason Co, KY by John W. Grace of 417

John I am a Rumans/Rummans researcher and I'm trying to get the Rumans out of Kentucky and into Virginia where it is believed they came from. Do you have any

proof that Hannah was born in Fleming County and do you know the names of her parents?....We believe that there are five siblings. Hannah, Abraham, Catherine,

Abner, and Bathsheba. But There it all seems to end....Abraham is my 3xgreatgrandfather and he married Nancy Davenport in Clark Co. Kentucky. I have not been

able to move back past these five. Any help would be greatly apprecitaed and if I can be of any help I will be willing to share..Thanks for you time........Kath

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Dwayne Larry Nicely has replied to your message on the Nicely Family Genealogy

Forum:



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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:36:03 -0400

From: Bob and Carol Frey Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: DeanHickmn@

CC: concho@, kitty@, MCKENNT@onr.navy.mil,

jwgrace@

Subject: Re: Cramblitt/Deem

Am passing on data re: Aaron McLaughlin that may assist in identifying

McLaughlins

in Jackson Co.

AARON McLAUGHLIN, b. Greenbrier or Westmoreland Co., VA of English ancestry;

d.abt 1821, Gallia Co., OH; m. MARY OLIVER, d. abt 1821. Known Issue (not in

order of birth): James, Addison (1st m. 28 May 1840, Gallia Co., to Margaret

McLILLAN; 2nd m. 30 Dec 1850, Gallia Co., to Catharine McFARLAND), Aaron,

Minerva (m. 3 Oct 1835, Gallia Co., by Rev. Andrew Faulkner to Joseph CRUMP),

and Mary (m. John LOCK).

AARON McLAUGHLIN, a teacher and farmer, b. 15 Aug 1818, near Gallipolis, OH; d.

15

Mar 1891, Madison Twp., Jackson Co., OH; s/o AARON McLAUGHLIN & MARY OLIVER;

1st m. 2 Sep 1841 at Jackson Co., to AHILA “HIGHLEY” ANN CORN, b. 8 Nov 1822,

Jackson Co.; d. 27 Mar 1863, Jackson Co.; bur. Callaghan Cemetery, Madison

Twp.;

d/o N.N. CORN and MARGARET HENSON. Issue: William Addison (b. 1842, Madison

Twp.; m. Adlin “Addie” VERIGAN), James M. (a physician, b. 1844; removed to

Terre Haute, IN), Minerva J. (b. 30 Jan 1846 & d. 19 Jun 1866; bur. Callaghan

Cem.; m. 12 Jun 1862, Jackson Co., to William CALLAGHAN, s/o William Oliver

Hutchinson CALLAGHAN and Martha HANNA), Andrew Jackson. (b. Sep 1847 & d. 1911;

bur. Callaghan Cem.; m. 1871 to Emma C. OAKES, b. Aug 1849, Jackson Co.),

Serelda

(b. Sep 1854, Madison Twp.; m. 1880 to John W. JOHNSON, b. Oct 1839, Jackson

Co.), Franklin P. (m. Julia BRYANT), Aaron C., Stephen Douglas (m.Julia

Margaret

ALEXANDER - my g-grfather), Charles, and Oscar (a physician, b. Sep 1865,

Jackson Co., & d. 1940, Madison Twp.; bur. Vega Cemetery, Bloomfield Twp..;

resided at the home farm at Madison Twp.; m. 1893 to Mary E. “Mollie,” DAVIS,

b.

May 1871 & d. 1923; bur. Vega Cem.). 2nd m. Nov 1864 at Jackson Co., to SARA

SWANSON, b. 1833 and d. 1911, Jackson Co.; bur. Callaghan Cemetery. Issue: A

son and Ida (b. 7 Jan 1869 & d. 26 Aug 1869).

Regards,

Robert W. Frey (Bob)

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From: "Michael Applegate" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail

To:

Subject: William M. Applegate, married Martha Jane Ross

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:01:35 -0400

Dear Mr. Grace,

In one of your post on "GenForum", I noticed your comment: "William M. Applegate, married Martha

Jane Ross on Feb. 25, 1869 in Lewis Co., Ky.. The descendents of William and Martha are of particular

interest to me, and I would be very interested in contacting anyone related to them".

Well, William M. Applegate (b.2 Aug 1848 in Lewis Co. Ky.)& Martha (Ida) Jane Ross (b.Abt 1851

in Carter Ky,) are my Great, Great, Grandparents.

Feel free to contact me if you like. Thank you, Michael Applegate

From: "Michael Applegate" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker

To: "John Grace"

References:

Subject: Re: [William M. Applegate, married Martha Jane Ross ]

Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:19:06 -0400

John,

No, I'm sorry the only info I have on Martha is her Parents name. I believe that her father was John N. Ross and her mother was Rachel E. (not sure of last name). I lost all of the family notes and records during the 1997 flood of the Ohio River. The only thing I had left was a binder with a printout of my ancestral line (which was in my truck at the time). So I am trying to put it all back together. I had boxes of notes, pictures, research and records that my grand-mother had accumulated throughout her life. And she was gone, as were her siblings before the flood took everything! I do have this line traced back to a William Applegate born 1534 in Yorkshire, England. You are correct, this family has been well researched; mostly by Hugh Voress of West Virginia. A lot of his and other data is on the internet, which has helped me a lot in verifying what I do have. My line from William and Martha continues with their son James Thomas; his son Alvin Monroe and his son, my father Delbert Monroe. I would be happy to share any info I have that you may need; and to compare notes if you

like. Also, if you wouldn't mind sharing what you have, all info you may

share would be

greatly appreciated!

Thank you, your cousin,

Michael Applegate

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From: TULSA7161@ Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:48:27 EDT

Subject: Re: Tulga genealogy

To: jwgrace@

Hi, received the information and will participate in helping clear up some of

your questions, but need a little time to look at some things from my Dad's

records.

Just want to stay in touch with you. Jerry Tulga

p.s. My mailing address here in Venice is PO Box 367, Venice, FL 34284

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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 21:40:50 -0400

From: Don Coho Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: John Grace

Subject: Re: Tulga

John,

Below is everything I have or know. I have this info because Millard

Francis SEAMAN is a blood relative of mine. Chester Tulga and Edna

Maine were included in my source's info only as "pedigree" info

for Carole J Tulga.

What differs from your records?

Best Regards,

Don C

Descendants of

Chester E Tulga and Edna Maine

1. Chester E1 TULGA married Edna MAINE.

Children of Chester E1 Tulga and Edna Maine were as follows:

2 i Carole J2

Generation 2

2. Carole J2 TULGA (Chester E1) married Millard Francis SEAMAN, born 7

May 1926, son of Phillip Millard and Clara Mae (Ruckle) Seaman.

Children of Carole J2 Tulga and Millard Francis Seaman were as follows:

i Timothy Frederick3 , born 1950; deceased 1958.

ii Terie Lou3 , born 15 Oct 1952.

iii Theodore Louis3 , born 17 Oct 1954.

iv Millard Thomas3 , born 9 Jun 1957.

v Todd Philip3 , born 14 Nov 1962.

vi Talmadge Earl3 , born 19 Feb 1964

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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 21:40:50 -0400

From: Don Coho Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: John Grace

Subject: Re: Tulga

John,

Below is everything I have or know. I have this info because Millard

Francis SEAMAN is a blood relative of mine. Chester Tulga and Edna

Maine were included in my source's info only as "pedigree" info

for Carole J Tulga.

What differs from your records?

Best Regards,

Don C

Descendants of

Chester E Tulga and Edna Maine

1. Chester E1 TULGA married Edna MAINE.

Children of Chester E1 Tulga and Edna Maine were as follows:

2 i Carole J2

Generation 2

2. Carole J2 TULGA (Chester E1) married Millard Francis SEAMAN, born 7

May 1926, son of Phillip Millard and Clara Mae (Ruckle) Seaman.

Children of Carole J2 Tulga and Millard Francis Seaman were as follows:

i Timothy Frederick3 , born 1950; deceased 1958.

ii Terie Lou3 , born 15 Oct 1952.

iii Theodore Louis3 , born 17 Oct 1954.

iv Millard Thomas3 , born 9 Jun 1957.

v Todd Philip3 , born 14 Nov 1962.

vi Talmadge Earl3 , born 19 Feb 1964.

Donald E. Coho Email: dec147@psu.edu

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Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 17:36:57 -0600

To: John Grace

From: Lou Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

Subject: Re: Tulga family

John ...

I do not know any Don Coho....not a part of our family...he must be pulling

your leg.... As to Carole...she is a sister and lives in Custer, South

Dakota and is now about 69 or 70 years of age and in good health. For the

record--my sister Lois Johnson is the eldest sibling and lives with her

husband Robert in Fresno,CA; the next oldest sibling is Paul Tulga who

lives with his wife Iola in Sacramento, CA and they have two grown

sons....Mark and Phil; the next eldest sibling is Elma Campbell who passed

away in 1985; the next eldest sibling is Carole Seaman who lives with her

husband Mill in Custer, South Dakota and then me, Louis Tulga, living in

Albuqerque, NM with my wife Lois. We have a son Brian who has a boy and a

girl and a daughter Louise without spouse or children and a daughter Renee

Hanson who lives in Carlsbad, CA with her husband Greg and a son and daughter.

Carole and Mil Seaman email is carmilse@pop. LorF b 5 or 6-6-1830 *****doesn't make sense*****

Harrison A. b 2-19-1845 d 1926 ****I ahve Jan 1845-4 Apr 1926**

Harlan Page b 7-6-1856 d 7-6-1856

Geo. Clinton b 9-11-1857

Wm. C. b1867 d1942 ****Feb 1867 to 1942

Joseph E. b 1869 d 1934 ****Joseph Edward Leasure ("Shorty") Apr 1869-9

Jun 1934**

John b1876 d 1947 ***20 Apr 1876 to 1947****

Leasure marriages shown are::

Harrison A.1845-1926 to Eliza J. Hartley 1845-1925

Wm. C. 1867-1942 to Anna Farmer b 1872

John 1876-1947 to Anise Sarepta Riley 1871-1919(2nd wife) Stockman

B.F. 1830 to Laurinda Turvey 1840-1858 (m.5-18-1854)

Adeline 1824-1881 to Geo. J. Turvey 1827-1868

Adeline Leasure & Geo. J. Turvey are my gr gr grandparents on my mother's

side(Turvey).

Also, the bible shows Geo joining the army on 8-11-1862 and Harrison A. Leasure joining on 7-22-1862. You may have all of this info on the Leasures but just in case you don't... If you have some info that fits in here that

I don't have, please send it. Stay in touch. Incidently, I am retired and live in Texas.

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Comments:

John Leasure's first wife was Osie Woods His last wife was my grandmother's sister Anise McLaughlin I had quite forgotten that John Leasure was married to Sarepta Riley, who is buried next to the Leasures. On her death certificate she is called Sarepta Riley, so it is possible the marriage did not last. A marriage to Pearl Tagg ended in divorce. Sarepta was born Hannah Sarepta Stockman and married James Brainard Riley after his wife Della Love died. She is buried as Sarepta Riley. Sarepta Stockman was the daughter of William Stockman and Mary Lucretia Armsey. Mary Lucretia Armsey was daughter of Ephraim Armsey and Sarah Hinson. After William's death Mary married Willis Leach. Mary is buried in Bronx Corners Cemetery under the name of Mary L. Stockman. Here is her lineage as passed on to me by Gordon Magill (dovelion@). Gordon is having computer trouble right now, so he might not answer any e-mails to him right away.

Subj: Armsey & Stockman

Date: 08/11/1999 8:03:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: Dovelion

To: DeanHickmn, royjlynch@worldnet.

I found the following on some group sheets collected by Cheryl Knowles of Americana Enterprises in Chillicothe OH. It is from the research of Owen Tagg:

1 Charles Stockman b: 1815 d: 1891

.. +Hannah Springer b: 1817 VA d: 10 Apr 1869 in OH, Ross Cty m: 26 Aug

1837

..... 2 William Robert Stockman b: 20 Jul 1834 OH, Ross Cty d: 25 Oct

1871 in OH, Ross Cty, Jefferson Twp

......... +Mary Lucretia Armsey b: 16 Oct 1845 OH, Ross Cty d: 6 Apr

1914 in OH, Ross Cty,

Jefferson Twp m: 1 Jan

1862 in OH, Ross Cty

............ 3 Clara Stockman b: 4 Apr 1864 OH, Ross Cty d: 23 Mar

1898 in OH, Londonderry, Ross Cty .............. +Pearl

E Tagg b: 28 May 1864 OH, Ross Cty, Jefferson Twp d: 23 Jan 1929 in WA,

Spokane

m: 8 Oct 1887

............ 3 Hester Stockman b: 1867

............ 3 Sarah Stockman b: 1869

............ 3 Hannah S Stockman b: 1871

Stockman, William R. 1871 Oct 25 M 32y3m5d Jackson Tp 1840-1871 m Mary

Lucretia Armsey 1 Jan 1862 Ross Co.

From :

Charles Stockman's second wife was Talitha Ann Hanna (1 Jan 1816-20 Aug 1899)

m 1 May 1871.

Her previous husband was Jephtha Cherrington m 14 Feb 1861; he died 4 Aug 1868. Her parents were Robert Graham Hanna (1788 Greenbriar Co. VA-1824 Ross Co. OH) and Mary Susan Wilson (d 31 Dec 1823 Lick Twp. Jackson Co. OH)

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The ancestry of my grandmother Anise McLaughlin is given by Margaret Sabisch

(kitty@) online at



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My Hickman ancestry is online thanks to Gordon Magill at



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Camille Ammerman sent me this e-mail about Adeline Leasure:

Subj: Adeline Leasure

Date: 7/9/99 5:08:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From: camillem@ (Camille Ammerman)

This is what I found:

Adeline Leasure b (1824) VA; m 24 Feb 1848 Wood WV to George Turvey (s/o George & M.?). She reported 26y in 1850 Wirt Co Census; 32y 1860 Wood Co Census.

George Turvey b (1828); his pob = VA 1850 and OH 1860. His surname reported

1850 "Terva"; 1860 "Terry"; marriage record as Turvey.

In 1860 census they lived next door to Barnett F. Leasure; in 1860 Barnett's mo Rachel was living in his (Barnett's) household.

Children of Adeline Leasure and George Turvey:

1. Harrison Turvey b (1845) VA; 05y 1850 Census; 14y 1860 census.

2. Hiram Turvey b (1848) VA; 02y 1850; 10y 1860.

3. Perry Turvey b (1854) VA; 06y 1860.

4. Emily F. Turvey b (1856) VA; 04y 1860.

5. Martha J. Turvey b (1858) VA; 02y 1860.

I don't think Harrison Leasure was the son of George Turvey. After George died he reverted from the name Harrison Turvey back to Harrison Leasure. I don't know who his father would be.

Eliza Jane Hartley was daughter of Joseph Hartley and Elizabeth Bucks or Burks. One sister Permelia would marry John Finch and another Ruth would marry Wilson Woodruff. Eliza m Harrison on 12 Apr 1866.

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He is what I have pulled from my Census Extracts file:

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The 1870 Jackson County Jackson Twp census shows

Mordecai Turvey 37 #103 born in Ohio!!! died within a couple years.

Charlotte 38 She and the others born Virginia.

George W 21 engineer

Caroline 18

Hannah 15 m Archibald Willis

James L 13

Josephine 11 m Elmore C Wortman 23 Dec 1880 Vinton Co?

George B 9

Ellen 7 m Frank G Fitzpatrick 30 Dec 1883

Louisa 5

Ida T 3 born Ohio Ida F m Robert S Leach 8 Sep 1885

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Adaline Turvey 46 #198 born Virginia 1824-1881,

Widow of George M. Turvey (1827-1868),

Hiram 21 born Virginia as are the rest except Mary.

Perry 16 will marry Sarah Allice Riley of uncertain origin

Emily 14

Martha 12 m Nelson Crayton 21 Mar 1878

Anne 9 m Frank Moore 6 Mar 1879

Mary 2, the only one born Ohio.

From Wood County WV Births:

TURVEY, Martha J. 8/10/1858 George & Adaline Turvey

TURVY, Anna E. 6/7/1861 George & Adaline Turvy

Nextdoor is Harrison Turvey 24 #199 born Virginia, s/o Adaline Leasure

Turvey. Later Harrison Leasure.

Eliza 22 born Ohio

William 3

Joseph 1

George 12 works on farm (adopted) born Virginia

Nextdoor is Pleasant Springer 25 #200 , lived across Salt Creek from

Hickmans, ran mill

Emily 25 = Emily Caroline Leach= Cal Springer

Tombstone Brocks Corners Cemetery:

Pleasant Springer 10 Sep 1845-17 Jun 1910 Co B 1st OHAV

E Caroline Leach Springer 24 Aug 1845-30 Sep 1936

Minnie 2

Holland Leisure 14 works on farm (adopted)

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From the 1880 census

Adaline Turvy 56 #295 (1824-1881),

Hiram Turvy 31, Harriet L. 25 dau-in-law, Mary A 12 daughter

Turvy, Adaline 3-12-1881 56-10-14 [born] Wood Co. Va. lung disease

In Lawrence Co. Oh 5 Jul 1838 a George Turvey married a Polly Laisiur

Nextdoor is Perry Turvey 26 #296, (1854-1943) son of George and Adaline ,

Sarah A. 18 (1860-1940) Whose daughter? m 12

Mar 1878

George J. 1 born 1-03-1879

Later: James H. Turvey 8-28-1887

Harry Kinner Turvey 4-22-1889

Cora Bell Turvey 11-17-1891

TURVEY SARAH County Name: JACKSON Date of Death: 5/31/1917 Volume Number:

2273 Certificate Number: 34019

TURVEY ELECTA County Name: VINTON Date of Death: 6/5/ Volume Number: 57719

Certificate Number: 6413

TURVEY LEONA E County Name: JACKSON Date of Death: 8/28/1917 Volume Number:

2348 Certificate Number: 52767

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From the 1900 census I have:

William Leasure 33 Feb 1867 father born WV

Annie 24, Sept 1875

Anna Laura Farmer 9-05-72 Shepard Farmer-Sarah Anderson 8 May 1892

Weltha May Leasure 5-12-1892 William Leisure-Anna Farmer

Mattie Apr 1894 age is presumably 6

Nextdoor is Pleasant Springer 54 Sept 1845 mother NY

Emily C 55 June 1845 born Illinois?

Lulu 23 Feb 1877 m Edmond Horatio Willis, Mordecai's son

Vera R Jun 1879

Lily M 17 Mar 1883

Emmet V 15 July 1885 Vance Springer supt of schools 1885-1971 m Lola G

1888-1972

Nextdoor is Harrison Leasure 55 Jan 1845 born WV, dad and mom unknown Mother was Adeline Leasure, married George Turvey For awhile he was called Harrison Turvey, but after Stepdad

died he reverted to the Leasure name.

Jane 55 Apr 1845 mom born Va

Edward 28 Apr 1879

John 22 Apr 1878 first wife Osie Wood married Anise McLaughlin my

grandmother's sister

Flora D 20 Oct 1879

Frank Woodruff 13 May 1887 servant

Hickman Cemetery: Harrison Leasure 1845-1926 Eliza J. Hartley 1845-1925

related? Turvey, Harrison 1901 Oct 27 W 56y10d Wellston one m Almira Neal

7 May 1866 Lawrence Co. OH

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From 1910:

H.A. Leasure 65 he and parents born Virginia

Eliza 65

Ed 38

John 32

Dell 28

Next Will Leasure 41

Anna 35

Mae 17

Mattie 15

Willie 4

Next Pleasant Springer 64 dad born NY

Emily C 64

E V 32 (Vance Springer) Jackson county Superintendent of Schools

Lillie Wills 36 daughter

Dorsey Wills 36 son-in-law

Next R M Hickman 60 #73 he and parents born Virginia

Jane 51 born in Ohio dad born Pa

Phillip 31

Robert 14

"Bobby" will go with Robert M. on a trip back to West Virginia. He

lived in Columbus where he died about 1967.

Howard 5 Howard Abram Hickman He will marry Myrta Spriggs his

schoolteacher

Jess Magill 3 grandson (reputedly son of Lee Andrew Magill (died 1918)

and Nellie Ora Hickman) raised by Robert Matson and Jane Hickman

My father Jesse Banner Hickman (July 8, 1906-Oct 14 1986)

He would marry Frances Lucille Wickline (Sept 18 1909-Jun 11 1941)

Daughter of James H. Wickline and Emma McLaughlin

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From 1920:

William C Leasure 52 Probably at what was in my youth Elba Weinrich's house

Anna 46 positive", I have a feeling everythings going to turn out great.

>

>Very best regards,

>

>John

>

> Hi, John -

Glad to hear from you again. I will have surgery January l9 in James

Cancer Center, OSU campus, Columbus, and expect to be dismissed around

January 26-27 if all goes well. The ovarian cells have developed again in

the abdominal area, and I'm hoping it will not involve a colostomy as well.

If so, it hopefully can be reversed. I'll be home recuperating February

and we had airline tickets to Houston for March 8-l8, but I'm not sure if I

can fly or not then. By all means, stop to see us if you're back this way

around mid-February.

>

John, I think there could be a real possibility that my gr-aunt Ebie

(Eba) could have had the given name of Phoebie - a reasonable assumption.

Maybe Pauline Bailey over on Clark Hill Dr. in Olive Hill could help you

verify that (Eba was her grandmother).

My computer should have been taken for repairs today, but the technician

won't come until after noon Sunday, so I'm glad this came in from you.

Thanks for your good wishes and encouragement - I'm trying to be really

positive and keep my faith up about all of this.

Best to you and yours,

Nancy

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From: "Pasquinelli" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: "John Grace"

Subject: RE: John Henson

Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:16:16 -0500

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John,

Actually, if I *did* say that John Henry Henson (who m. Arzelia Southworth)

was born in 1871, then that was a mistake because I have both in my files

and in the source that it came from that his birthday was 12 OCT 1870 (which

could be estimated to 1871 if someone got his info from a Census or

something and maybe he hadn't had his birthday yet, like the 1880 Censsu you

mentioned below---if it was taken before 12 OCT in 1880, then J.H. was still

9 years old, not 10). The source that I got that information from is this

little booklet-thing I have that was done around 1983 by Martin Gerard

Henson of St. Louis, MO. In it, there is a letter to Martin from some kind

of "Veterans Administration" or something in St. Louis, in reply to an

inquiry he apparently made about the Henson family. It tells of the wives,

etc., of John Henson (b.1836) according to Civil War files. Says he married

3 times: Mary Jane Benner [4 NOV 1858/Scioto Co.,OH], Maria Martin, and

Matilda B. (Curtis) Skeldon. But it does not tell of any of his children by

any of the women because "it was not a pertinent question at the time" that

the records were made---I guess he didn't have any yet.

Lisa Pasquinelli

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Lisa, I did a check on my source of info on John Henson. I have photo-copies

of the Jefferson Twp., Scioto County census of 1880. In Vol. 57, Sheet 3,

there is the following entry:

John Henson, age 43, born in Penn.

Mary A. Henson, wife, age 42, born in Penn.

Sarah E., dau., age 17, Ohio

Samuel, son, age 14, Ohio

Elizabeth, dau, age 11, Ohio

John H., son, age 9, Ohio

Margaret A., dau., age 7, Ohio

Frank L., son, age 4, Ohio

William L., son, age 2. Ohio

The 1860 census (household 383) shows:

John Henson, age 23, laborer, born in Pa.

Mary, age 20, born in Pa.

I also have a copy of Death Certificate 5775,

John Henson, Madison Twp., Scioto County, Ohio

born August 26, 1836

died Oct. 10, 1923

age 87 years, 15 days

occupation: farmer

birthplace Pennsylvania

name of informant Jacob Henson

father: Thomas Henson, birthplace Pennsylvania

mother: Elizabeth Dobson, birthplace Germany

buried at Glendale Cemetery, Minford, Ohio

cause of death: cancer of the liver

name of wife - (blank)

I don't have absolute confirmation that the John Heson that is on the DC is

the same as the one on the census, but you can see that everything seems to

fit.

Now, I also have a copy of a Graves Registraion Card for:

Henson, John

Portsmouth, Ohio

died April 2, 1901

born February 21, 1840, in Ohio

buried 2 1/2 miles N. W. Minford, Glendale Rd. row 18, grave no. 49

served in the Civil War may 2, 1864 - Sept. 3, 1865 Co. F., 140th O.V.I.

I don't believe I am related to this John Henson. The birth date is close,

but

the place of birth is Ohio, rather than Pa..

I also note that in your e-mail, you say that the John Henry Henson who

married Arzelia Southworth was born in 1871. Where did that date come from?

It

matches the John Henry Henson on the census above, so it's an important

date.

The chances of two John Henry Hensons being born in the same year in Scioto

Co. are probably not great.

The foregoing doesn't resolve anything for us, but I thought I'd let you

know

something about the source of my info.

I'll keep looking.

John

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Hi John - just getting back to you. I had a letter this week from Pauline

Bailey (Clarence Lyons' daughter and gr-dtr of Jess Lyons and Eby Grizzell)

- she lives at ll0 Clark Hill Ave., Olive Hill, KY 41164. She said:

Eby's parents were James Grizzell and Fannie (Frances ?) Wilhoit. Eby

had a brother, Jim Grizzell (called "Doc"), and two sisters, Hannah, and

Alice (Johnson). Pauline thinks also that Eby had one more sister who

lived out West whom they didn't know.

Pauline says that when Clarence's first wife died leaving him with 5 kids

that Eby and Jess took Pauline and the other 4 to raise, and then 6 months

later Eby and Jess' only daughter, Ruby, died, leaving Jess and Eby her 3

to raise also. She said Eby and Jess were angels on earth to undertake

what they did with 8 kids.

More later...if you write me, do so before January l6 - I'm due in Columbus

at the James Cancer Clinic for more surgery.

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Yes, John, I know, there is a good genealogy department at the Portsmouth

Library...because I live here in Minford (about 14 miles from Portsmouth).

My boyfriend Jason actually works at the Library, in fact. He is GGGnephew

of Arzelia M. SOUTHWORTH Henson, and he lives on 9th Street, about 1.5

blocks or so away from the Library!

Did you find me on my site? I'm just wondering. Jason was in there, too.

Hmmm...this will be a challenge.

Lisa P.

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Lisa, I took a look at your web site. Good work :>)

I was looking at Maitilda B. Curtis, and noted that she married John Henson

in

1909, when he was 73 years old and she was 42. Hummm. Must have been a real

May-December romance ;)

Something doesn't seem kosher here, but it will be fun to do a little

detective work on it. I'll be in the Portsmouth area in a few weeks, and

I'll

see what I can find on Matilda Curtis and Arzelia M. Southworth.

Surprisingly,

They have an excellent genealogy library in Portsmouth. Very helpful staff

too.I'll let you know if I find anything new.

My Uncle John Henry Henson is he son of Samuel Henson. I am confident of his

connection because Kim McGinnis independently came up with the names of

John's

Uncles, and Kim's father was aware of my Uncle, although they had never met.

Keep in touch,

John

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Well, John, it looks like we have a slight problem then, don't we [about the

wives]? I have those six children of John Henry Henson, by his wife Arzelia

(assuming she was the wife), born anywhere ranging from 1896 to 1915!

Hmmmm...I wonder which (if either!) of us is right? I got my information

from this genealogy someone had done on the Southworth's. My boyfriend,

Jason Southworth (the reason I am even on that line---it's not my family at

all), gave me the "book" which was just inside a blue paper folder, told me

his great-grandmother (who is still alive) had given it to his family, and

that he didn't know who had done it. Looking at the book now, I find a

letter in it (amongst various copies of records, etc.) that is addressed to

Martin G. Henson, St. Louis, MO, and dated 13 JUL 1984. And I presume that

is who did this research, but I don't know how Jason's great-grandma Dorothy

Southworth would have gotten hold of it, since he would have been such a

distant relation (of her husband Ralph) that I wouldn't think she would even

know him by name...but you never know, I guess. Martin Gerard HENSON

(b.1951) was, according to this little book: s/o Andrew Wesley HENSON

(b.1927), s/o Joseph HENSON (1900-1946), s/o John Henry HENSON (1871-1967) &

Arzelia SOUTHWORTH (1871-1937). I do not have any other John Henry HENSON's

other than this one b.1871, so I apparently do not have where your uncle

would fit into it all. (I do, of course, believe that he does, though,

since you would know better than I would...=0)

If you want, you can visit my site, which has my gedcom online, and see what

you think of it. The site is pretty self-explanatory, so I think you should

have no trouble finding what you want: . See

if you recognize the names of any of those people.... And I think our name

for the wife of John HENSON & mother of his children conflicts also...my

info came from that letter to Martin Henson, from a Veterans Services

Officer at the Veterans Administration (dated 13 JUL 1984)... They don't

say which woman was the children's mother, but they don't list any Mary

Lintz's either...only Mary Benner. Ick, this is getting kind of ugly...

Lisa P.

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Lisa, thanks for your response to my posting. It seems that the names and

dates are right on. But, I have John Henry Henson married to Mary Lou Crain.

For children, I have 4 females (names unknown, although I have their

husband's

names); and Carol Paul Henson, John V. Henson, and Jacob C. Henson b. Dec.

30,

1903, d. 1961 in Lucasville, Oh..

I'm sure this is the same family, so the only real issue is John Henry

Henson's wife. Maybe I have it wrong, or maybe he was married twice. I got

some of this info from Kim McGinnis, who is a descendent of Lewis Franklin

Henson (your Franklin L.). I found Kim by using a Portsmouth telephone

directory to call every Henson in the area (I sometimes use the "blunt

instrument" approach to research). :>)

I was able to find Kim's Uncle and then her father, and they got me in

contact

with her (she lives in the Dayton area, as I recall). Kim gave me good info

on

F. L. Henson's descendents, as well as William Henson's family.

My Uncle, also named John Henry Henson, now lives in Pickerington, Ohio.

He'll

be 82 in May, and is suffering badly from enphysema. His wife, Isabelle, got

me started doing genealogy, but John has largely lost contact with his

family,

so it has been slow going. Any help you could give us would be much

appreciated. Let me know what would be of interest to you.

John

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I have a lot of information for a John Henry HENSON (12 OCT 1870--6 JAN

1967) who married Arzelia M. SOUTHWORTH (8 APR 1871--1 NOV 1937). They had

6 children: Sarah, Denver Clair (1896-??), Kendall Forrest (1898-1947),

Joseph (1900-1946), Raymond Russell (1907-??), and Glenn Lincoln (1915-??).

John Henry had siblings: Sarah (c.1863), Samuel (c.1866), Elizabeth

(c.1869), Margaret A. (c.1873), Franklin L. (1876-1923), William (c.1878).

I think we are talking about the same person, what do you think? =0)

Lisa M. Pasquinelli

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Lisa, thanks for your response to my posting. It seems that the names and

dates are right on. But, I have John Henry Henson married to Mary Lou Crain.

For children, I have 4 females (names unknown, although I have their husband's

names); and Carol Paul Henson, John V. Henson, and Jacob C. Henson b. Dec. 30,

1903, d. 1961 in Lucasville, Oh..

I'm sure this is the same family, so the only real issue is John Henry

Henson's wife. Maybe I have it wrong, or maybe he was married twice. I got

some of this info from Kim McGinnis, who is a descendent of Lewis Franklin

Henson (your Franklin L.). I found Kim by using a Portsmouth telephone

directory to call every Henson in the area (I sometimes use the "blunt

instrument" approach to research). :>)

I was able to find Kim's Uncle and then her father, and they got me in contact

with her (she lives in the Dayton area, as I recall). Kim gave me good info on

F. L. Henson's descendents, as well as William Henson's family.

My Uncle, also named John Henry Henson, now lives in Pickerington, Ohio. He'll

be 82 in May, and is suffering badly from enphysema. His wife, Isabelle, got

me started doing genealogy, but John has largely lost contact with his family,

so it has been slow going. Any help you could give us would be much

appreciated. Let me know what would be of interest to you.

John

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I have a lot of information for a John Henry HENSON (12 OCT 1870--6 JAN

1967) who married Arzelia M. SOUTHWORTH (8 APR 1871--1 NOV 1937). They had

6 children: Sarah, Denver Clair (1896-??), Kendall Forrest (1898-1947),

Joseph (1900-1946), Raymond Russell (1907-??), and Glenn Lincoln (1915-??).

John Henry had siblings: Sarah (c.1863), Samuel (c.1866), Elizabeth

(c.1869), Margaret A. (c.1873), Franklin L. (1876-1923), William (c.1878).

I think we are talking about the same person, what do you think? =0)

Lisa M. Pasquinelli

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MESSAGE: (#227) Re: HENSON, PROVENS, WINKLER, MOORE

AUTHOR: John W. Grace

DATE: 8 Jan 2000, at 19:42

Reply To: (#17) HENSON, PROVENS, WINKLER, MOORE

Author: Barbara Van Bal

Date: 14 Sep 1999, at 10:11

Thomas Henson, b. in Pa. married Elizabeth Dobson, b. in Germany they had a

son, John Henson, b. Aug. 26, 1836 in Pa.,d. Oct. 10, 1923 in Madison Twp..,

Scioto Co., Oh. buried at Glendale, Cem. who married Mary A. Lintz, b.

ca1839.

John & Mary had children:

John H. Henson b. ca1871 d. after 1963 “lived in Columbus, Oh.” Sarah E.

Henson b. ca1863 married (unk) Russell Elizabeth Henson b. ca1869 Margaret

A.

Henson b. ca1873 William M. Henson b. March 24, 1879 d. 1963 buried

Canter-Wells Cem. Lewis Franklin Henson “Frank” b. March 22, 1876 at Valley

St., Scioto Co., Oh. d. April 11, 1923 at Lucasville, Oh. buried at Stoney

Hill, Cem.

Samuel Henson b. 1865in Scioto County, Oh married Elizabeth Pyle

Samuel & Elizabeth had children:

Jessie James Henson 'born in Portsmouth, Ohio" Corrie Henson "born in

Illinois" married (unk) Chambers Ava Henson "born in Illinois" Thomas Henson

b. 1913 “may have been born in Wilson’s Corners, Oh.” John Henry Henson b.

May

28, 1918 in Gillvan, Oh.

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Wm Holland 55 #191/179 born Virginia

Permelia 49 born Virginia

Mary A 23 born Ohio

Wm 21

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Martha 8 compare Martha Holland 1856-Apr 10, 1934 m Ira T Willis 30 Apr

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Roy, Dean Hickman forwarded your message to me. I see that we share an

interest in several names.

I have links to the Burnetts of Carter County: Balsar "Boss" Maddix Burnett

(1875-1958) married Catherine Amanda Ross. I believe Balsar was related to

Leroy "Lee" Burnett and Margaret (Newman) Burnett, but have not been able to

make a confirmed linkage.

I am directly related to the Browns of Eastern Kentucky. William Brown, born

Abt 1661 Of Midgley, Somerset, England, and his wife, Sarah Bunyan are my

earliest. I am descended from Cynthia Brown, born 1839 in Morgan, Kentucky,

who married Thomas Jefferson Campbell (1803/1813-1895). They lived in Carter

Co..

My Henson connection is actually through the Portsmouth area, though they

could have Eastern Kentucky roots. My Uncle is the son of Samuel Henson and

Elizabeth Pyle. Samuel's parents were John Henson and Mary A. Lintz.

I also have Robert E. Brockman (son of James R. Brockman and Martha E.

"Mattie" Gizzell) who married Edna L. Grizzell. I don't have much on the

Brockmans, but I do have several generations of Grizzells.

I have links to many other Eastern Kentucky families, so if there are other

surnames that are of interest to you, let me know and I'll see what I can

find.

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There is a Leach resource center created by Gordon Magill and Roy Lynch.

Everyone seems to have married into the Leaches and Hartleys.



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I believe the info I had on Jeremiah and being declared insane came from a

distant cousin Fermin Boring. He gave me a lot of info on the Fiztpatricks

in Columbiana, Carroll and Jackson counties. I cannot say that this is the

same Jeremiah Fitzpatrick's, but I have only come across only one Jeremiah

doing Ohio research. But I continue to track down every bit of evidence I

can find. Fermin was the first person to seem to have long known that

Jeremiah's wifes name was Elizabeth. I don't want to incorporate that info

my database until I know for sure.

As for Prescilla Fitzpatrick, my info comes from 1860 US Census (Ohio), page

380 for Vinton Co, Vinton Twp, Mingo Post Office. Listing her and her

husband David Phillips, children Lydia A, George and John.

The 1870 US Census (Missouri), page 123 for Mercer Co, Madison Twp. Listing

Priscilla Groshong, and children Lydia Phillips, George Phillips, John

Phillips, Sarah Phillips, and Susan Groshong.

In George Fitzpatricks probate records (list of heirs) - Priscilla as

Phillips up to 8 Mar 1866 and Groshong after 7 Apr 1868.

All these census records seem to agree that her birthyear was about 1832.

For some reason I do have incorrect info on my page and I will try to get

that corrected. Thanks for the info. Can you add any additional info on

your Fitzpatrick side?

>From: "John W. Grace"

>To: chrisbarttels@

>Subject: Jeremiah Fitzpatrick

>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:20:07 -0800

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>Christopher, I too am related to Jeremiah. I am a descendent of his son,

>John A. Fitzpatrick. My mother is from Jackson and I lived there with my

>grandparents for a time. It's changed over the years, but not too much.

>I went with my mother to her 60th class reunion at Jackson High last

>summer. Still the same old school :>)

>

>I am curious about your JacWeb posting that Jeremiah was declared

>insane. Last Spring my nephew and I were at the Court House researching

>the Fitzpatricks and found an old Court record of a Jeremiah Fitzpatrick

>being declared insane, but we were unable to verify that it was our

>Jeremiah. The Court doc had Jeremiah's wife listed as Elizabeth. Where

>did you get your info?

>

>Also, I have a long-standing problem with the Pricilla Fitzpatrick you

>mention. Another researcher I contacted last year had Pricill'a birth

>year as 1849, but her marriage date as Dec. 28, 1851. Do you have good

>info on her?

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>John W. Grace

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Shirley, last year you responded to a genforum posting that I made. I didn't

think we had any chance of a link at the time because the birth date that you

had was about forty years later than the one I had. It does seem to be a very

great coincidence that there would be 2 James Perry Spicers in Ohio, who were

not related. Do you have any info on the parents or children of your JPS? I

have children named Ann E. Spicer and James C. Spicer.

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Well, what a surprise!!!!! A real live relative !!! Do I have information????? Lots and lots. I have been gathering info since I was in elementary school and I am now 57.

Several years back I did a book (Kinko's) for my three children, which told them all I knew......as my health is poor with heart troubles and I wanted them to have it before I go. Oh yes, I have been there, one Easter long ago when I was in school in Louisville. It was a very fruitful trip!

At this point my memory is a little rusty....but do you have any ideas of his parents and or siblings. His will was recorded in the only will book washed away by a flood years ago! He just pops up on Ben's run (creek) with his family. Family tradition says he was a really ruff character who was reputed to have killed a man! Who knows????

So tell me what information you want......lets stay in touch.....please!

Date: 23 Nov 99 14:24:14 PST From: John Grace To: Melissa Miller Subject: Re: [Re: Ross & Hale surnames] Melissa, I have attached a chart with some of what I have at Myrtle Ross's generation. I'm not too clear on the Miller - Bryant generation, so I would really appreciate any help you could give me there. If you could give me all the corrections/additions that you have, I can send you a printed copy of the revised charts. I have a "Ross book" of about 120 pages of related families that I am researching. I will add to it any lines that you can give me.

Myrtle's grandparents were John Nelson Ross and Nancy Jane Kinnamon. They are at the top of my Ross tree right now. The origins of John Nelson's father have

resisted the best efforts of his family for several generations now. There's a good story in there somewhere.

Anyway, if your interested in the whole "book" or just lines closely realated to Susan, please let me know, and I'll give you all that I have. Also, let me know if this chart doesn't come across successfully..

John

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John: I would love to have anything you have on Nellie. I don't even have her husband's name. This is not my research but Nannie Myrtle Ross Hale was the great grandmother of my sister-in-law and I knew Nannie Myrtle very well. All I have on James and Nannie Myrtle's children are: (1) Nellie---which I have very little on; (2) Martha Alice born Feb. 8, 1908 Greenup County, Kentucky and died July 31, 1968 at 60 years, 4 months and 23 days of colon cancer at their home. The address was Waverly Route 1 but it is just outside of Beaver, Pike County, Ohio. Martha was married to an Arthur; I don't have his name because all the years I knew her, he wasn't in the picture. (3) Wade born 1904 in Greenup County, Kentucky and died Jan. 21, 1979 probably in Portsmouth, Ohio. Seems like he was in the hospital there or Ironton. I only met him one time. (4) Arthur "Art" born Feb. 23, 1906 Greenup County, Kentucky and died Feb. 27, 1963 and married Henrietta Stewart. He died at a little over 59 years old of caner at Portsmouth, Ohio. Anxious to hear from you again.

Melissa Holbrook Miller

My sister-in-law is Susan Bryant Miller who was the

granddaughter of Nellie Hale

At 09:10 AM 11/23/99 PST, you wrote:

>I found your email address on one of my charts, and thought I'd contact you to

>see if you had found any good info on the Ross - Hale lines. I don't have much

>on Myrtle (Ross) Hale's family. I met her a few times as a child, but lost

>contact with much of the family down there when we moved to Columbus. I have

>the names of 2 sons and 3 daughters, plus a little on your line from Nellie

>(Hale) Nicole. I would like very much to exchange any info on these lines that

>you would be interested in sharing.

>

>John W. Grace

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Lou, I don't believe I ever heard back from you after I sent you those charts

in August. Any info you could send me on your family would be greatly

appreciated.

John

Date: 23 Nov 99 08:57:04 PST

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George, I too am a descendant of John Nelson Ross. I would be very interested in sharing info on any related lines. Have you been to the Olive Hill - Carter Co., Ky area?

John W. Grace

Oakland, Ca.

Date: 13 Nov 99 22:30:19 MST

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Thank for the offer of 40 pages! But that might be a bit much for me to digest all at once. What I would really like is a family group record of the family of Catherine Sells and Stephen Grace, with any notes or documentation, etc.; and one for his parents. Beyond that, I would just recommend anyone interested in more, contact you, if that is OK. My snail mail is Carolyn C. Choppin, P.O.Box 472411, Aurora, CO 80047

What more would you like? The Ludwig Sells family is in the Ancestral File (Family Search on the net) pretty much correct, except the wrong parents are attached. His parents were Anthony and Catherine Sell; and not John and Sally!! How John and Sally got there is a very long story which I will not go into now. Catherine's siblings are correctly listed, as are their known descendants. Let me know what more you would like on the Sells. Thank you again, Carolyn Choppin

John Grace wrote:

Carolyn, thank you so much for your inquiry concerning Catherine (Sells) Grace. In researching my Grace line in Franklin Co., Ohio, I have come across many references to the Sells name, but have never ben able to link Catherine to her family. I don't have a lot of info on Stephen and Catherine. I have two reported birth dates for Stephen: Feb. 1800 and (possibly), July 7, 1841. As I recall the later date was from a cemetery record entry, and I was not able to verify that this was my Stephen Grace. I do have a record of Stephen and

Catherine Sells being married on Dec. 20, 1824 in Franklin Co., Oh. by Benjamin Britton. I am pretty sure that this Benjamin Britton was an uncle of Stephen's. Benjamin married Elizabeth Grace on Dec. 24, 1799 in Rockingham Co., Va.. Elizabeth's father (Stephen Grace's grandfather) was James Grace.

James was born in Ireland ca1750-1755, and died in Rockingham Co. in 1797.

James' family was reported as originally being from England.

I don't believe I have all of Stephen and Catherine's descendents. I have

children named Apolena, Caroline and (possibly) Betsey. My direct line is

through Stephen's brother Lehr Grace (Dec. 25, 1796 - Jan. 4, 1854). I have

some info on Stephen's father Benjamin Grace, and his family, as well as

Benjamin's siblings, and their descendents. I also have pretty extensive info

on Lehr Grace's descendents, down to current generations in some cases. I

still have a number of relatives in the Columbus area.

I have about 40 pages of charts on the Graces and related lines. If you like,

I could send you a printed copy via snail mail (sorry, I can't produce and

up-to-date gedcom for you). Are you only interested in the lines closely

related to the Sells? I tend to "cast a wide net", and have been collecting

info on many, some quite distant, related lines, so please let me know how

much of what I have would be of interest to you.

John W. Grace

Oakland, Ca.

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John,

I just answered the question concerning John Armstrong and his son Hike. Go to the Kitchen Forum and then to Michele Procter's query on August 7 1999.

I live in Carter Co. Ky.

Eleanor McDavid Brewster

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Dear John W. Grace, we noted your posting on Gen Connect re the Ohio Grace

families.

We have lots of records on the Sells ancestry of the Catherine Sells m.

Stephen Grace, which we would be happy to share with you. In return we would

be interested in any records you might have of their descendants. Hope we

can exchange info with you.

Sincerely, Carolyn Cell Choppin

This is a generic message to introduce you to the Celle Family Association.

We have been collecting records of all branches of the Cell(e), Gsell, Gesele,

Seal(e)(s), Sell(s), Sill(s), Zell(e), etc. families with emphasis on those of

Pennsylvania German origin since 1965. Several members of our clan have

published books on one branch or another. We have recorded and shared all

records via a Celle Newsletter, published quarterly since January 1969, and

have just completed compilation and indexing of the first 110 newsletters into

three volumes. These and many other records pertaining to our clan are now

available on our "Family Celle Volume I" CD.

We have attempted to identify ALL emigrant ancestors, most from Germany, some

from England, and trace their descendants down to at least 1850, and to 1900

where possible.

We plan to publish a second CD next year (spring of 2000) which will include

even more records and families than our first one does. We currently

have over 200 families participating in this effort, mostly from the US, some

from Canada, a few from Europe.

If you are interested in receiving a complementary issue of the newsletter,

and/or joining in the collection and recording of records on our ancestors,

please send your snail mail AND preferred email address to

Choppin.Carolyn@ If you also send a sketch of your earliest Celle

ancestors, we will endeavor to send you a personal message to tell you which

branches of the family are most likely yours, and who else is working on those

lines. Thank you. Carolyn Cell Choppin, editor, Celle Newsletter

John,

John Armstrong was born 4 March 1811 in Virginia, died 22 February 1886 and is buried at the Pleasant Valley Cemetery about two or three miles this side of Olive Hill. He and Lucy lived at Cory, Ky. near Pleasant Valley and Olive Hill they moved there from Deer Creek about 2 miles from where I live.

He is buried beside Lucy. Her tombstone has broken and buried in the ground but his is in fair shape and standing. I have a photo and could scan it and send you a copy , but finding it could be a problem. I have a way of not being able to find things when I need them.

I am involved in Genealogy up to my neck therefore I can't keep up with things. Sorry. If you need to email me at:

eleanorb@delta.kcc.edu

Eleanor McDavid Brewster

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My gr.gr.grandmother was a Ruth Ogle Fitzpatrick. She was Ruth Ogle and married John Fitzpatrick. One of their sons was an Adam Fitzpatrick.Adam was born 8-11-1844. He died Sept.10,1913. Are we talking about the same Ruth Ogle? We know nothing about her at all. Ruth and John's names are on Adam's death certificate. Any help along these lines would help us. Thanks Roger

From: "Robert J. Smith" To: "John Grace" Subject: RE: more cousins! Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:57:12 -0400

Yeah, I would suspect Edward may have been Margaret's brother. Yes, Margaret's mother was Marjorie Dolly. I have her picture too but it is framed on a wall in our cabin in Kentucky. She looked a LOT like Margaret.I saved that Gedcom file you found and will look at it yet this eveningsometime. Ain't this 'citin'?Bob

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Bob, much thanks for the photos and gedcom. They came across fine.Note that Lewis' sister, Mariah, married Edward Duffy. Probably a goodchancethat he is related to Margaret. Was Margaret's mother Marjorie Dolly? I'llseeif I can get more info on this line.

Guess what? As I was looking back though some old files, I found a Cramblitgedcom that I had never completely explored. It claims to know Samuel SmyleyCramblit's father, plus some other good stuff. I'm attaching a copy for you.John

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John,I will attempt to send you a GEDcom file as a descendency chart of LewisCramblit. I'll try it momentarily and see what success I have - so if itdoesn't come tonight, I'll try it again later in the week or weekend.I will contact Lisa. Thanks.

In three separate e-mails following this I am attaching 3 photographs. Thefirst will be a tintype of Lewis around the time of the Civil War. Thesecond will be a much later picture of him in old age with a sister "Jetta"(pronounced Jettie by the family). It seems as if Jetta may have been anickname (?). The third photo will be of Marjorie Dolly, Lewis's wife. Iam sending them separately so that download time will be reduced. They arein .jpg format.

I think you would also be interested in knowing that we have severalartifacts from Samuel Smyley Cramblit's shoemaker trade handed down throughMary Annis and Maryellen to Cathy. We have a wooden shoe form - a woman'sor child's size. We also have a cast iron boot form on a stand. We alsohave a shoemaker's hammer. I think I mentioned before that we have the bedLewis was reputedly born on in 1840 and definitely died on in 1922.The pictures will follow.Bob Smith

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Bob, I have Ultimate Family Tree, so if you can send me a gedcom, I'llimportit into UFT. I have an interest in any lines genetically linked toCramblits,or any marriage partners that Cramblit memorabilia may have been passed to.I mentioned my contact with you to another Crambit researcher named LisaPorter-Burt. She wrote back asking if she could contact you (she'll ask ifyouwant to join the Cramblit list). I have not given her your name or address,but if you like, you can reach her at "Lisa Porter-Burt".John

From: "Robert J. Smith" How

> does the realaudio server running on my local PC communicate with the clients

> requesting the realaudio clips? Would I have internet host software (eg.

> Apache) running on the local PC?

Nope, not at all... As best as I can explain, the RealServer program

acts as the only server software that you need. When someone (an

intranet or internet user) accesses your broadcast, what really happens

is that the RealPlayer on their computer establishes a direct connection

with the RealServer on your computer. The two programs communicate

directly (the Server sends data to the Player), until the listener

disconnects.

Think of it much like running an FTP server. You can download an FTP

server program, install it on your PC, and start it up. Internet users

can then run an FTP client, type in your IP address as the destination

host, and connect. Your FTP server (and their client) handle the rest.

RealServer acts in a similar manner, though instead of transferring

files back and forth as with FTP, you're really streaming one continuous

file to the listeners (and, naturally, they can't upload anything back

to you). You run your RealServer; and internet users run their

RealPlayer and connect to your IP address (that part can be done

automatically through a hyperlink on your web page).

> I gathered from the very brief docs that they

> had on their website, that Realserver would normally run on an ISP's box. I

> don't have a T1 :>)

I've been successful running it on my PC at home, over a cable modem.

If you're running within a corporate environment, with some sort of LAN

or intranet in place, my guess would be that your company's network is

probably fast enough to support RealServer. If nothing else, people

within the company (and on the local network) would be able to listen to

the broadcast no problem.

How the broadcast fares with internet users would depend on your

company's outgoing connection to the net. ISDN or better would probably

be sufficient, unless you plan on getting a whole lot of people

listening at once. The biggest simultaneous audience I ever had was 9

listeners, which worked no problem on the cable connection. Of course, a

T1 wouldn't hurt, and maybe the radio broadcast would be a good excuse

for the company to expand its bandwidth ;)

Hope this helps, and good luck!

Shaun

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John,

Thanks for the info on Olive Hill. It sounds beautiful.

As for my Grizzle genealogy, I am stuck at William Grizzle who married

Elizabeth Todd. I am guessing they married around 1830 in either VA or

KY. I have lots of information on their son, but I can't find

documentation of William or Elizabeth anywhere. The information on

John's death certificate states that both William and Elizabeth were

born in Washington Co., VA. William was supposedly born 9/26/1810, but I

have yet to substantiate this. Their son, John, was born 12/1831 either

in KY or VA/WV. I can't find birth, death, or marriage records on

William or Elizabeth. I don't know the names of their parents or the

names of other children, John's siblings. How is it you can get a name

of a parent and not find ANY information on them?

If you can help, that would be great! If not, I'll just have to keep

searching. If you have any advice as to where to look, it would be

greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Becky

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:22:40 -0500

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John: Your best bet is to read about all the options and prices on the Laboratory of Ornithology, Library of Natural Sounds website.

Here is the address: Good luck.

Lang Elliott

NatureSound Studio

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:59:01 -0500 From: chuck To: John Grace Subject: Re: [Kinnamon]

John...checking another source, found the attached. You are right aboutthe Roberts name. I live in Platte County and I know 3 different Roberts families. They are from around the Weston area. Anyway if I find more, I will pass it along..

Husband: John KINNAMAN

Born: 1827 at: ,,KY

Married: 8 APR 1867 at: ,Platte Co.,MO

Died: 8 MAR 1915 at: Kansas City,Wyandotte Co.,KS

Wife: Missouri PORTER Born: 1849 at: ,,MO

CHILDREN

Name: John W KINNAMAN Born: 1868 at: ,,MO

Name: Elnora KINNAMAN Born: 1871 at: ,,MO

Name: George E KINNAMAN Born: 1872 at: ,,MO

Name: Charles KINNAMAN Born: 1875 at: ,,MO

Name: Warren KINNAMAN Born: 1878 at: ,,MO

Name: Emmett KINNAMAN

Name: Laura KINNAMAN Died: 1898 at: ,,MO

Name: Pink KINNAMAN Died: 1898 at: ,,MO

Name: Rose KINNAMAN

Name: Grace KINNAMAN

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:29:07 -0500 From: chuck Reply-To: chuck@To: jwgrace@ Subject: Kinnamon

According to the book "Annals of Platte COunty", Missouri was the d/o John Porter and Louisa Turner. She was the 2nd of 4 children. The others being William, Thomas and Katherine. It shows Katherine married Thos Roberts.

John Porter was the son of William Porter and Anna Hammond. William died on April 2, 1852. Anna passed in 1870.

Hope this helps if you are still looking.

Chuck McCardie

Farley, Platte County,MO

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:19:03 -0400

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John,

This message from a cousin of ours with census records on Stephen L. Tabor may be of interest. Keep in touch. John Donohew Attached Message

From: "janice whitt"

To: "John Donohew"

Subject: census reports

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:59:28 -0400

1880 Elliott Co. Census

Stephen Tabor Age- 29

Mary E. Age- 33

Charles A. Age- 8

Arminta Age- 7

Nancy Age- 5

David Age- 3

Franklin L. Age- 6/12 Born November

Fanna Goins Age 22 Divorced - works in house

1900 Elliott Co. Census

Tabor, Stephen - 2-1852 -Age 48 married 14 years

Wife) Lottie -9-1860 -Age 39

Frank 4-1880 -Age 20

George R. 6- 1882 -Age 17

Berry 4- 1884 -Age16

Harvey W. 3- 1887 - Age13

Mary 9- 1889 - Age 10

Pearl 7- 1891 - Age 8

John C. 8- 1893 - Age 6

Carroll, William Border Age 21 1- 1879

1910 Carter Co. Census

Carpenter, Vence Age 52 merchant in store

Wife) Lottie Age 50 married 6 years 5 kids, 5 living

Tabor, Pearl Age 18 single step daughter

Grayson Court House

1838-1875 Marriage Register Book

Page 315

January 5, 1871 Stephen L. Taber and Mary E. Ross at John H. Ross

in county of Carter in the presence of William A. Brown.

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Lou, it was great talking with you.Any corrections/additions you can make to

the chart would be much appreciated. I saved my MS Word document page as a

text file attachment. If it doesn't come across successfully, please let me

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Dear John,

How many more Henson's would you like? That is, there are several that my cousin, Carl D. Henson, and I are working on.

Unfortunately, so far, I have not seen your Thomas Henson, although my grandfather was Thomas Lee Henson b 1898 m Thelma Winkler. At this moment, there hasn't been another Thomas in the line.

We are primarily looking at the branch of William Henson, b1817 d 1907 m Saphronia Milstead. William went from Amhurst, VA to Chesapeake, OH .

The Henson Family Reunion is in Chesapeake, OH on September 11. I will keep an eye out for him. Do you have any more information. Place of birth, marriage, death? We have too many John Henson's from early VA and MD and are gathering all the children. Could be a connection.

John, how did you find me? Would you like me to forward your message to my cousin?

Always good to hear from a Henson. Barbara

John Grace wrote:

Barbara, do you have anymore Henson names in southern Ohio? My earliest is Thomas Henson, who married Elizabeth Dobson. They had a son. John Henson (1836-1923) who married Mary A. Lintz. They were in the Portsmouth - Scioto Co. area at that time. John Oakland, Ca.

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Michele, thank you so much for your response. I believe it is the same family.

I have John Armstrong, (1811-1905) born in Va.,died at Corey Branch, Near

Olive Hill, Ky. Married first Eliza J. Green on Nov. 6, 1851 (1835-1910);

married 2nd Lucinda Francis McDavid (1813-1891). There is still a question in

my mind that the same John Armstrong married both of these ladies. I have a

(poss.) grandchild of John named "Nelse" who married (unk) York. I have a note

next to Nelse saying "Tom's father" (whatever that means). I also have a

Nelson G. Armstrong, b. 1866 in Carter Co., that I got from the LDS site. I

also show that John Armstrong and Eliza had a daughter named Delcena/Dulcena

Belle Armstrong (nicknamed "Sena"). I got my info on this line from a

researcher in Olive Hill, and the notes she gave me were kind of confusing. I

have a problem placing my John Haskel Armstrong in the correct generation,

after John & Eliza Armstrong.

If your John Armstrong did marry Lucinda McDavid, then I am related several

times over (Ross, Sammons, poss. Dehart and poss. Jarvis). Even, if you could

tell me that your John Armstrong definitly did not marry Lucinda McDavid, that

would be of great value to me.

I will only be available to receive you email through tonight (Sunday). I just

learned that my Uncle died this morning in Waverly, Ohio, and I am now trying

to get tickets to fly back there tomorrow AM. I may be gone as long as 2

weeks. So, if you can't reach me today, it may take a while for me to get back

to you.

Hope to hear from you soon.

John W. Grace

Oakland, Ca.

jwgrace@

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Hi John,

The following is based on the biography of Daniel Elliott printed in the

Centennial History of Columbus and Franklin County, published about 1901.

Robert Elliott, born in 1774 was the son of James Elliott and Jean Hart. He

was born in Sherman Valley, Perry County, PA. The children of James and Jean

were Robert, the eldest. William located south of Piqua in Miame County ,

Ohio, James who lived in Hancock County, Ohio; John an Indian agent and

lived and died in Wapakoneta, Ohio; Sally who married a Mr. Elliott, and died

near Wapakoneta, leaving an infant son Thomas and Betsy became Mrs. William

Nelson and died at Greenfield Highland County, Ohio.

By the wasw after Rovbert Elliott died Susannah brunk married James Elliott

son of Betsy and William. I wouldn't be surprised if James Nelson was the

real or birth father of David Mitchell Elliott. The reason for this

suspicain is that Robert Supposedly died in 1837 and records show that David

Mitchell was born in 1839.

The children of Robert and Nancy Black were:

1. James who died in Columbus.

2. William who died in Iowa,

3. Robert who died in Champaign County, Ohio

4. George who died in Franklin County

5. Nancy who married Bigelow Spain and died in Cahampaign CountyPolly who

married Jacob Vorhees and died in Illinois.

The children of Robert Elliott and Susan Brunk were:

1. Sally, the wife of Tillman Sullivan

2. Samuel who died in Columbus

3. Margaret, the wife of Edison Aldrich of Harden County, Ohio

4. Eliza the wife of Captain Imes of Columbus

5. Jackson, who died at the soldiers home in Sandusky, Ohio

6. Daniel (the subject of the article

7. David Mitchell, my great grandfather.

I hope this helps .

Dave

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Hi John,

I am happy to help you with any information you need.

Many Researchers have identified Daniel's wife Sarah's surname as Belcher, I know of no proff of the name Belcher. The only documentation I have found for the name of Daniel's wife as Sarah comes from the marriage of Daniel's son Linkhorn to his second wife Mrs. Martha Robinson Wood in 1888. This same Linkhorn had as his first wife a young woman named Sarah "Sally" Belcher in 1833. I do believe this is where the mistake started and some one originated the name of Sarah Sally Belcher as Daniel's wife.

There was no mistake that is correct. Linkhorn Blevins was married to Sarah "Sally" Belcher.

There are possibly 3 unidenfied males belonging to this family. I know of no one who has documented those three. So your information is not supported unless someone has given you a source. If so send it to me, we have not seen any documented information to prove the theory.

2. Jessee Sloas was married to Elizabeth McDavid

Sources are 1870-1880 Elliott County, Census this family lived on Little Fork in Elliott County, Kentucky

other sources are from the McDavid Family.

3. Dora McDavid married William Jason Fields October 28, 1893.

Dora was the Daughter of Samuel McDavid and Elizabeth Eastman.

Another son James Lafayette was a legislator, judge and merchant. He was born April 1, 1869 in Carter County. He operated the Prichard-McDav9id wholesale Co. at Hitchins. He was State representative 1926-1927 which was the final years of his brother-in-laws tern as governor.

(I have 3 folders of research information on many of my families I have not had time to record in my Family Tree program)

Martha was born 1847 in Carter County, Ky.

Carolyn Wilson Dyer

Lexington, Kentucky

John Grace wrote:

Carolyn, I just finished reviewing the info you sent. You’ve obviously done a lot of work the Blevins lines, and I really appreciate your sharing it with me. You also helped me fill some gaps in my Armstrong charts. I didn’t have Amanda Armstrong’s husband (James Dehart). Now I can try to place James among all the other Deharts who have inter-married with our various lines. I did notice that your software has thrown a curve at you. If you look at the text file you sent to me, Linkhorn Blevins has his mother (Sarah Belcher) as his spouse (instead of Martha Robinson).That sort of thing happened to me when I was trying to use Ultimate Family Tree, and it used to drive me crazy. When I would correct it, UFT would lose all the links, or they would end duplicated, or just floating out there. Some day I find some software that is a little more forgiving. There were a couple of items that I noticed did differ from what I had seen before: Elizabeth McDavid, daughter of Mary Blevins, is shown as having married Jessee Sloas. I had his name as Jessee Sloan, son of David Sloan. I’d have to dig to be sure, but I believe I got Sloan from Opal Sparks, whose husband cares for the Ross Chapel Cemetery in Olive Hill. That seemed to be reasonable because I had run into the Sloans before. Any doubt in your mind about “Sloas”? I also had another daughter of Samuel McDavid and Elizabeth Eastham, named Dara. The reason this one is important to me is that Dara McDavid was the wife of William Jason Fields, who as you no doubt know, was Gov. of Ky in the 1920’s. FYI, I went to Frankfort and saw a painting of him, his bio clip referred to him as “honest Bill, from Olive Hill”. I smile everytime I think of him :>) Anyway, I know Dara fits into the McDavid tree somewhere. This family has been a problem for me because Opal’s notes were on about 50 hand written pieces of note pad paper, and frankly, I got lost more than once, trying to follow all the little arrows ;>) The other differences I found probably won’t be so easily resolved. I have Daniel Blevins as married to Sarah Belcher (don’t believe you had a surname for her). I also had 4 more children: William, Daniel, A. Blevins and Washington. The children are probably from LDS, so you can take it for what its worth. My short experience with genealogical research has taught me that it’s generally easier for families to gain children over time, than it is to lose them. Same thing with Lucy McDavid and John Armstrong. I also have children named Martha (m. Billy Everman), and Louisa. I have a note next to Louisa that I got her from a posting by Roger Kennedy, who you may be familiar with. So there’s a fair chance that both of these are good (though I’m sure the DAR would want stronger proof). So that’s about it. I added your messages to my research notes, so if future researchers come across my stuff buried somewhere, they’ll know your name too (our little piece of immortality). I sincerely appreciate your sharing your research with me. I’m also aware that the exchange wasn’t exactly even. If you give me your snail mail address, I would be happy to send you a printed copy of my working charts on this part of my line (about 60 pages). They’re not up to professional standards, but they might give you some leads for your own research. In any case, thanks a lot for all your help. Please keep in touch. John

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Well, I was glad to get that address again, John. I'm not usually so

disorganized, but we've kept our daughter's 3 girls for 6 weeks and seen

about her house and grass, etc., and she lives 40 miles away from us, so

we've been on the road a lot. Our daughter Judy is now a single parent, a

teacher, and she's been working on her master's degree in Vermont this

summer on a grant. We try to help as much as we can. We pick her up

Thursday this week at the Columbus airport now that she's finished the work.

I hope the photo comes to me this week from Rosella Lyons, my cousin in

Dayton, Ohio. She promised to mail it when I called her yesterday. Jesse

Lyons and Ebie were her uncle and aunt. Rosella is 75 now. Then, the new

contact I found yesterday is Myra Carroll, a nurse or nurse's aide at

Bellefonte Hospital (Ashland, KY), and she is the granddaughter of Jesse

and Ebie. I'm hoping she has information on them as well as the photo. I

have to be in Columbus, OH Wed. and Thurs. (her days off), and I'll ask her

to bring the photo to work maybe tomorrow (the hospital is only l0 minutes

from my house here). I could copy it at Walmart's and send it on to you,

hopefully this week. Myra surely has the names, etc. of Ebie's parents.

Hope you can meet her (I'd like to meet her too.)

My grandmother (Sarah Frances Lyons who married Lum Walker) was a sister to

your Jesse Lyons. Jesse's parents were James K. Polk Lyons and Sarah

Catherine Mauk of Elliott Co. KY. There's an article and photo of them in

the Elliott Co. History Book published recently. I can xc it for you.

Your aunt works in Pickerington (Columbus area?)

You're most welcome to come to Ironton to meet us. If I get these photos

this week, I'll overnight them to you before next week, hoping you'll get

them before Aug. 12. If not, we'll have them here for you when you pass

through this area. Bob has an old Navy buddy coming by with his wife Aug.

12-16 to visit us (they live in Henderson, NV near Las Vegas) and are on a

motor trip now visiting all their children over the country. We will be

here and hanging around, so don't fail to contact us. In fact this friend,

Ed Otjen, grew up in Riverside, CA.

I think between Rosella and Myra, we can get all of Jesse and Ebie's

children for you, plus other pertinent information. Probably could tell or

show you where they are buried.

Well, my a.c. repairman is to phone me, and I'd better clear this line, so

I'll be back in touch. Let's hope all this works out for you. These are

my people, too - Jesse and Ebie are my great-uncle and great-aunt.

More later,

Nancy

Dad, get of the internet and get ready for a call from me within the next 5

minute on the phone.I have to talk to you.

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At 08:42 PM 8/1/99 PDT, you wrote:

>Nancy, earlier you asked about the Walker family. Can you give me some more

>names? I have a reference to an Arla Walker. Another Walker married Anna

>Lucille Nolen (dau. of Chester Nolen and Aileen Williams), and had a son

named

>Willim Randy Walker. I also have a Wilma Walker who married Peter

Greenhill. I

>have many good contacts around the county, so I should be able to find

>something for you.

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>John

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> John, I've heard of Arla (Arlie) Walker of Olive Hill, Ky (now

deceased - about 3 years ago). He is descended from my Olive Hill/Grayson

KY WALKER family. He came from Jeremiah Walker and his 2nd wife, Malinda

Knipp. I descend from Jeremiah Walker and lst wife Teresa Sammons of

Carter Co. KY. This could be the same Arla Walker you speak of.

When you mentioned you have several contacts around the county, I assumed

you meant Carter Co. KY (?) I'm looking for any WALKER folks who were in

the Greenup/Carter/Lawrence counties area from 1815 back. My John Walker

married Rachel McCool in Greenup Co. KY Feb. 20, 1804 (I think they

actually married in what is now Grayson, KY (Carter Co.) because that part

of Carter Co. really was Greenup Co. in 1804. Carter Co. wasn't formed

until 1838. Am trying to find where these WALKER people were in Virginia

before coming into Kentucky (and, of course, Kentucky WAS Virginia until

1792 when it became a state). Walker is a hard name to research because

there are so many of them. I've worked at this since 1963! It's fun but

can be frustrating as well.

More later...air conditioning repairman is to phone, and I have only one

phone line!

Nancy

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John,

I have the name of each recipient of Nette Scrum's estate, but do not have

their lineage shown how they were related to Nette Schrum. Nette Schrum's

father Daniel Elliott was the brother of my great grandfather David Mitchell

Elliott. That would make Nette Schrum and my grandmother first cousins. I

remember my father saying that he met Nette Schrum when he was a boy. I know

he was really surprised when he was informed by the lawyer for the estate

that he was going to receive a share. It came as a complete surprise.

My niece Patty Nichols in Birmingham Alabama is very much interested in

genealogy.

She has a lot of info on the Stouffer's and some on the Graces. Her name is:

Mrs. Patricia Nichols

2931 Pahokee Trace

Birmingham, Alabama

35243

Her genealogical email address is

Catmom777@

She loves cats and has three of them.

Did I send you the list of decentness that I have for Robert Elliott(born in

1774)?

I am going to write the Perry County Historical Society. They may have

church records which would give the names of Robert's parents.

Dave

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Dear John,

I have no idea if we have a common link but it sure might be. This is the closest I may be to my ggg grandmothers parents. All I have is assumptions and theories right now. I do know in the 17 and 1800's, children were named after relatives. So I looked at the 1820 census to see how many Palmers would have had an 8 year old daughter. I came up with just two in jackson county (As you probably already know the census in 1820 only had the head of household name.) One was Layton and the other was Austin. I tend to lean towards Austin only because Susannah Braley nee Palmer, my ggg grandmother named her sixth child Austin. I could be very wrong that is why no information is filled out. Also I have looked at land records and noticed that Austin Palmer and my ggg grandfather Newel Braley had land fairly close together, they could have been neighbors but I have not seen a map of the coordinates yet. Anyway, sorry to ramble, I tend to get excited when I find another possible piece to this puzzle. Now that I know about your Layton Palmer there is a possibility that they could be brothers. Susannah my ggg grandmother was born about 1812. Somewhere I think I remember reading that Susannah's family came from New York but I will have to look through my information and see. If you come up with the other brothers name, please let me know. Have you looked in census records to see if it is listed somewhere? I will keep you in my files, in case I find any more information. I thank you for your response it has opened a few more doors that I thought would be closed for a long time.

Laureen Roach

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Carlene, I just recently came across Andrew Lehrer. I found his info at:



I have not tried to follow-up to see who the original researcher was.

Andrew's Aunt, Catherine Lehr/Lair, married Benjamin Grace in 1792, in

Rockingham Co., Va.. Benjamin Grace was my 4th great grandfather. Benjamin

came west to Ohio about 1810, and settled in Norwich Twp., Franklin Co..

Several other familes from Rockingham also settled in that area, including the

Britton, Brunk, Travis, Hart and Hord families. Must have been a real wagon

train! :>)

More to the point, my guess would be that Lady was Andrew's wife's given name.

I have come across it before.

I'm attaching a text document that has my Lair info. Anything you can give me

related to Andrew or the Lehrer clan would be much appreciated.

I have many more charts on related lines, if they would be of interest to

you.

We have traced the Graces back to Benjamin's father, James Grace, but have

been unable to go further. I'd like to work with related families, like your

own, on the chance the the lines cross again or may have originated in the

same area of "the old country". I hope to get back to Rockingham in the next

few months, and the more info I can gather now, the better.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

John

Oakland Ca.

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John,

I saw your information on the Lair GenForum. I am descended from Andrew

Lair's daughter, Elizabeth, who married Thomas Pope. I would like to

exchange family information with you. I do not have much on this line and

only this weekend found out who Andrew's parents were.

Was Andrew's wife's name Lady her first name or a title? Any help you can

give me with this line would be appreciated.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Carlene Ho

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DEAR JOHN:

STEVE LAP'S AUG 1992 CITATION WAS WELL TAKEN IN

1992. hOWEVER, THE INTERIM FINDINGS HAVE BROUGHT MORE CLARITY TO FAMILY

GROUPS AND ADDED STATISTICS TO FAMILY MEMBERS WHICH WERE NOT AVAILABLE

THEN. THE NAMES HAVE REMAINED THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE SEARCH FIASCO. nO

B, M, D, STATISTICS WERE AVAILABLE THEN NOR HAVE ANY COME TO LIGHT IN

THE MEANTIME. THE HEADS OF THE HOUSEHOLD HAVE BEEN GIVEN SPECIFIC

IDENTITIES SO AS TO DISTINGUISH ONE FROM THE OTHER. IE: JOH MICHAEL MAAG

(MAG), MICHAEL MAUCK/MOCK. THE FATHER/SON RELATIONSHIP BECAME EVIDENT

WHEN JOH MICHAEL AND SUSANNA CHARLOTTE MAAG(MAG) SERVED AS SPONSERS FOR

THE BAPTISM OF THE FIRST TWO CHILDREN OF MICHAEL AND MARGARET GRACE

MAUCK/MOCK, THEN LATER WHEN THE WILL WAS PROBATED BY THE SON, MICHAEL

MAUCK/MOCK. THAT THE FATHER BECAME KNOWN AS MICHAEL SR. AND THE SON AS

MICHAEL JR. IS VERY COMMONPLACE. THE WILL GAVE THE SON AND FOUR

DAUGHTERS FAMILY STATUS. HOWEVER INTERIM RESEARCH HAS NOT UNCOVERED

STATISTICS RELATING TO THEIR EVENTS OF BIRTH, MARRIAGE , DEATH. EXCEPT AS

STATED BELOW.

WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT MICHAEL MAUCK /MOCK HAD A WIFE,

MARGARET GRACE WHISSINGER AND TWELVE CHILDREN YOURS TRULY CEASED THE

OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN SEARCH FOR EVENTS OF BIRTH & MARRIAGE. AT THE TIME

THE ONLY CLUE WAS A MOCK FAMILY RECORD THAT WAS ASSEMBLED BY MISS GRACE

INNIS, A RELATIVE. IT CONTAINED BIRTH INFO ONLY AS 12 OCT. WITH THAT,

THE 1850 CENSUS FOR CLINTON TWP. ,FRANKLIN COUNTY, OHIO WAS TAPED MICHAEL

MAUCK/MOCK WAS LOCATED IN THE HOUSEHOLD OF HIS SON JOSEPH AND HIS AGE WAS

86 THEN BY ROLLING BACK THE YEARS 1764 BECAME 12 OCT. 1764. SO, AGAIN

IT IS UP FOR CHALLENGE.

HENRY MOCK, A SON OF MICHAEL/MARGARET GRACE MAUK/MOCK, WAS BORN

IN 1811. HE WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST GRANDSON SO BECAME THE APPLE IN

GRANDPA'S EYE.

I DO NOT ENTERTAIN THE FIRST THOUGHT OF GIVING UP ON

JULIANN BECAUSE SHE REMAINS A MEMBER OF THAT FAMILY. HER BIRTH STATISTIC

AS SHOWN ON YOUR JUNE E-MAIL SHOWS HER BIRTH SOME NINE YEARS AFTER THE

DEATH OF JOH MICHAEL MAAG/MAUCK.

YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

SINCERELY, VERN O. WRIGHT

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John.

In your last e-mail you asked me if I live in Hillard. No I never lived in

Hillard, but my

grandmother Mary Alice Elliott Bell and my great grandfather David Mitcxhell

Elliott

were born in Hillard. I along with my parents, three of my grandpparents and

two of my

great greeat grandparents were born in Columbus, Ohio. My parents brought me

to

Orange County , California when I was 2 years old.

The geneological lineage I gave you is definitelly correct from the 1774

Robert down to

me. I was in Columbus in .April. I wish I had been awaear o f I was

hoping to find out

three things in particular.

1. Was 1774 Robert’s father’s name realy James?.

2. Is it true that the father of 1774 Robert was a soldier in the

revolution?

3. If 1774 Robert’s father was in the rovolution, was he granted land in

Franklin

. county and did 1774 Robert settle on part of his father’s grant?.

If the biographt of Daniel Elliott Centennial Hisstory is correct the answer

to the above is

in the afirmitt. I we knew who furnished the information in the article we

would have a

good cllue to its athensicty.

In about 1958 Daniel Elliott’s daughter, Nette Schrum died leaving no will

and no known

living decendennts. Her estate was divided between the heirs of her

grandparents, one half

the heirs on her paternal grandparents and one half to the heirs of her

maturnela grand

parennts. Her paternal grandparents were listed as Robert Eliiott, Nancy

Elliott (roberts

first wife and Sausannah Elliott (Robert’s 2nd wife. I still have a copy of

the names of all

the heir receiving part of the estate, Theire were 106 heirs on the Elliott

half annd 57 heir

on the wwwwwwwwyncoop side. The people listed with Elliott Surnames are

Homer,

Llucy, Jack R., Richard C., Harold E. Russell R., George T., Lawence D. ,

William

Victor. William Victor and Lawrence D. were my grandmaoother’ brothers. My

received about $600 which was given as 1/76 of the Elliott half. The law

firm that did the

genealogical researc took 40% right off the top.

David Mitchell Elliott and his wife Minerva belonged to the Weslley Chapel in

Hilliard.

They are burried in the Wesley Chapel cemetary

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Dear John,

Below is my lineage.

James Elliott was born in Sherman Valley, Perry County, He married Jean Hart.

James and Jean's first child was Robert Elliott, born in Sherman Valley,

Perry County, PA

in 1774.

Robert's 2nd wife was Susannah Brunk, (my great great grandmother)

Their youngest son was David Mitchell Elliott (my great grandfather) .

David Mitchell Elliott married Minerva Adams

David and Minerva had a daughter Mary Alice Elliott. (my grandmother)

Mary Alice Elliott married James Henry Bell.

Mary Alice Elliott and James Henry Bell Had a son David Elliott Bell, Sr., my

father)

David Elliott Bell, Sr. married Florence Pausch.

David Elliott Bell, Sr. and Florence had a son (me) David Elliott Bell, Dir

(me).

My sister has David Mitchells family Bible.

I have a copy of the will of a Hugh Hart that mentions his daughter Jean

Elliott, James Elliott's first wife. This doesn't mean that Jeans husband

was a James. But the Centennial History of Columbus indicates it would be

James

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John

Pat Nichols is my niece, my favorite niece.

The idea that James Elliott was the father pf the Robert Elliott born in 1774

came from "The Centenial History of Columbus and Franklin County Ohio." The

article begins on page 102. It is the biography of one Daniel Elliott. The

article states that Daniels father was Rober Elliott, born in Sherman Valley,

Perry County, PA in 1774.. The biography states that Daniel's grandfather

was a James Elliott born and raised in Sherman Valley, PA. Daniels

grandmother was Jean Hart. According to the biography James Elliott and Jean

Hart had the following children, Robert (the eldist), William, John, Sally,

and Betsy. Betsy Married William Nelson. Robert Elliott had six children

with his first wife Nancy. They were James, William, Robert, George, Nancy,

and Polly. Robert and his second wife Susan Brunk had Sally, Samuel,

Margaret, Eliza, Jackson, Daniel, and David. Susan Brunk married James

Nelson son of Betsy and William Nelson. James Nelson was 7 years younger

than his wife Susan Brunk Elliott.

Dave Bell

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John, Thanks for the file. I have plenty on this branch of the Britton's.

Noah Frank

was the father of Philander C. Britton. Anyway here's the dates of birth

for the

children of Elizabeth Grace and Benjamin Frank Britton b. 14 Sep 1779 in

Fredrick

Co. Va. Noah Frank Britton b. 1805 Fredrick Co. Va., John Taylor Britton

b. 24 Nov

1808 Monongahela Co., Va., and Hosey W. Britton b. 01 Jun 1811 Mono. Co. Va.

I have 1815 as her death date. Benj. Frank's father was a Hosey Britton b.

abt.

1750. I have Samuel Taylor Britton b. 27 apr 1820 and Benjamin Britton b.

1819

as the son's of Eliz. Brunk and Benjamin Britton. I hope this helps.

There are a couple of trees in the volumns of Family Tree Maker that have

this also.

I have marriages for some of the children, if you need it. Or I can send a

gedcom file

if you have Family Tree Maker. Just let me know. Andy

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Dear John:

I Share the tardiness of a reply to your E-Mail of

7/3/99.

My impaired vision slows me down when I do cross checking to compare our

two records. To accomplish this I use a low vision reader. It is a

cumbersome excercise but a way to get it done. This morning I finished

your lineage chart, and am glad to have that info. Needless to say,

having a family group for each of the twelve children was my initial

goal. That accomplishment set seven of the children apart from the

others thus opening seven doors to respective family trees. Kiners,

Vorhees, Joseph Mock, Jacob Mock, Samuel Mock, William Parr. I am told

that there are descendants from William/Mary Parr. Velma and Norma

Snelling, (mother & daughter), who believe that Mary A. Mock's mother was

Elizabeth Munger. I have not received confirmation, thusly.

Reference is invited to the birth date, 1797 for Martha E.

Whissinger AKA Margaret Grace Whissinger shown on page 3 on e-mail

6/13/99. This birthdate cannot be valid in view of the fact that after

marriage to Mivhael Mock as their first child, Susanna Charlotte, was

baptized 3/29/4799. The mystery of their dated marriage as well as death

remains to be solved.

Hope your computer can go to work now, so thanks again.

Vern O. Wright

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John -

The cemetery record I pasted to you was from the new Carter Co. Rootsweb site.

The "Underwood" did puzzle me.

Is Willie Sparks related in anyway to the Sparks historian you talked to in

Carter Co.

The interesting part is the LDS man who has been the most help to me at the

local Family History Center is a Sparks and his family came through Carter

Co. into Darke Co. OHIO and then west.

Was Willie a formal adoption with paper trail?

Often when a family was in need, children were taken in and raised as their

own.

I assumed Willie was a help to J.N. & Nancy in their latter years. Willie

only lived 18yrs ?

If there was an accident or illness = guilt could explain the position of

the grave.

I will send you hard copies of my branch of the family.

Yes - Lottie Mable went by her middle name (note underline)

Yes - Mamle married William POST - They lived in DesMoines but my notes say

she d. 1961 Arlington,VA

The only child I have is Gene POST I do have two cousins of my

mother-in-law, that I can write to for that info.

John D. should be Jesse Dean CLINE - my husband's Grandfather.

My husband is Arthur Douglas HERRMANN, he uses his middle name = Doug

LIZ

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John - My husband could not remember how much younger his two Cline

cousins were, than himself. His mother kept closer contact then we did, but

I can't find a record. Susan would have been born about 1941 or 2. Sarah is

younger by a couple of years. We had a fair email communication going with

Uncle Bob until his cancer put him in hospices care. Sarah notified us of

the death by email after the funeral and has made no return contact since.

When the dust settles out on this Cline/Ross research I thought I'd see if

she was interested in a copy. I think Susan divorceed Guy Bunk also, but

I've lost track after four husbands. I think she still runs a home based

child care business in Des Moines.

I think our (you and us) only connection is the ROSS family not to mention

the many marriages with Cline & Offill.

I really appreciate your help and sharing of information. I tried to read

all the census to prove that LDS ancestral file but no luck on my Elza

Cline. The strange part was that the siblings Johnny L. Cline listed did

not match the names remembered by my mother-in-law. But it was too similar

to ignor. Plus the odds of two Elza Clines being born on Ap 17, 1852 in

Carter Co. seemed slim. Have you been in contact with Johnny L. Cline

of Nevada City, CA or his cousin Peggy Laurintzen =

MissPeggy@? They are both "CLINE" people but active in Carter

County History. They are LDS, Peggy works at the Family History Center and

the Ohio Gen. Library.

Did Nancy ROSS remarry after J.N. Ross's death? I was reading the cemetery

records for Carter Co. and trying to understand:

Ross, Nancy J. Underwood Oct 17,1819-Feb 28,1895 Ross Chapel

Ross, Nancy J. Underwood w/John N. Ross

I'm looking forward to receiving your printed charts.

LIZ

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Dear John W. GRACE,

Received your post and would appreciate any information you can share

including children of Elza & Alice, since I was working from the memory of

my mother -in-law. Do you have Elza Cline's parents names?

My e-mail address is above. Snail mail :

Elizabeth C. Herrmann

615 E. Countryside Lane

Idaho Falls, ID 83404

phone 208-522-0493

I've been working on this line for several years. We have visited E A CLINE

& Alice ROSS CLINE graves in Prairie City, Jasper County, Iowa. This fall

I made contact with two people through the LDS Ancestrial File but wanted

to confirm our connection to their line. Birth Certificate for Ap 17,

1852, says male baby born to William Harrison CLINE & Malinda OFFIEL in

Carter CO.

Our family notes do mention OFFIEL or OFFILL but siblings do not match

"memory" notes. Hence you can understand my wanting to document from

another source.

Thank you and eagerly awaiting your reply,

Liz

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John,

Here is the address of the Land Patents,you have to supply your zip code in

order to use the

page.Can you send me the address of the on line death records?



Tracy

John Grace wrote:

> Tracy, yes, I too think there may be at least one link to be found, maybe

> more. My grandfather was Dempsey French Ross. He had a sister, Bertha

> (1873-1979) who married Frank "Dutch" Hartley (1891-1970). These were also

> Jackson County Harleys. "Dutch" was the son of Frank Hartley and Anna Clark.

>

> Unfortunately, I don't yet have anyhing more on the Holland family. I'll look

> into that line today and let you know if I find anything.

>

> I will be in Jackson in a couple of weeks. I have family throughout the area.

> I planed on going to the Jackson County Courthouse, as well as the local

> Genealogical Society while I'm there. I'll also be visiting eastern Ky., which

> is where my Ross line begins.

>

> Where did you find the Ohio land deeds? I have found that there are fairly

> extensive death certificate records, both on line, and at the Ohio Historical

> Center, in Columbus. The State Genealogical Library in the State Building in

> Columbus, is also a great resource.

>

> Best regards,

>

> John

>

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:40:57 -0700

John,

I ran Ted through Trans Union and Equifax again and a newer address came up:

320 S. 43rd West Avenue

Tulsa, OK 74127-7735

You might write to him at this address and send the letter registered so

that you will get the receipt back saying that he received your letter. If

this doesn't work for you a P.I. might be able to do a utility company check

on him in Tulsa to see where he is paying his gas and electric bills. Also,

a P.I. could get an unlisted number but most people are offended if we get

their unlisted number so I would suggest trying to write first to this newer

address.

I ran up a Trans Union and Equifax report on Todd and it gave his address as

Ted's former address of RR4 Box 227, Vinita, OK 74301 but the information

was dated 3/98. So it's possible that Todd received Ted's letter and maybe

didn't let him know.

I found an updated address on Earl also. It is listed as 43156 E. 275th

Road, Vinita OK 74301.

Let me know how it works out....

Colleen

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To: "Colleen Buckner"

Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:44 PM

Subject: Teddy Ray Warner

Colleen, hello again. With the information that you found for me, I was able

to contact Judy (Cox) Lawson, the mother of my son. She is married and lives

in California. It was wonderful to talk with her after all these years. She

had been in contact with our son Teddy until about 5 years ago. Then he

stopped responding to her letters. I wrote to him several weeks ago, but

received no reply (the letter did not come back either). Also, the phone

number that is listed for him is no longer good. Judy said that he had

become

involved with a fundementalist Christian religious group, and she felt that

that may have had something to do with the loss of contact with him. Teddy

was

quite close to his adoptive mother, and when she did some years ago, it was

a

difficult time for him. He was apparently not that close to his adoptive

father.

I've tried several ways to reach Teddy. His adoptive father is an Earl

Warner,

and I found one in Oklahoma, but he turned out to be unrelated. Teddy has a

step-brother, Todd Warner, but I have been unable to locate him. Teddy's

wife's name is Tonya, and they have at least two children: Thomas and

Jeremiah.

I am strongly considering contacting a private investigatior in Tulsa. You

have been a great help to me already. Do you have any suggestions on how I

might find my son?

Best regards,

John W. Grace

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Hi folks, Once again I will try to go back to the beginning---somewhere, I

missed something...Ok, my great grandfather was Henry Shay. He died November

10, 1910. his death certificate #61528 states that he was a widower. It also

states that he was buried in Sigler cemetery and that his parents were John

Shay and Nancy Jane Shaw Shay. The informant was John Shay that lived at RFD

#4 Jackson,Ohio. His obit. has him listed as Henry Shea who died died at his

home in Jackson twp on Thanksgiving. He is survived by 2 children, Alma and

Tommy, his wife and one child,Amy, having preceded him to the grave. The

Funeral was held from the Savageville Church Saturday morning, after

interment was made in the Zeigler cemetery, near Richmondale, by undertaker

Al Wood. Since his death certificate says Sigler(doesn't that seem a typo)

If there was no stone placed, then it still seems that Mary Ann Wiles Shay

was his wife and he and their child are buried in the Wiles plot. If someone

can help me if I'm getting this wrong I'd really appreciate it. Otherwise,

why wouldn't Henry be buried in the Shay plot at Evergreen close to his

parents ? Is there other documentation that proves that Mary Ann and Henry

were not the parents of Alma and Thomas and Amy. We know the children were

in the 1900 census with grandparents. I understand that what seems logical

may not be, but I just want to see something that may make me understand

this better....I thought I had this, but now Dean, You say that I descend

from a brother of Ann Liza Jane Stancliff Wiles . Please tell me more about

this James brother of Ann Liza Jane. I've done nothing but study, copy and

read..........please oh great ones---this humble servant begs for some

interpretation............Thanks and please share this with anyone who may

have more info..........Back to square one......Thanks again, Judy

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> Sigler Cemetery:

> James A Stancliff Aug 20, 1840-Sep 15, 1903 Julia , his wife,

> Oct 29, 1850-Aug 31 1927

> Norma Sep 7, 1895-Apr 4, 1908

> Edward Apr 27, 1900-Nov 15, 1919

> Ida 1879-1962 Edward B 1869-1937

> parents of Norma, Nora, Jessie, Edward, Albert, Marion, Harmon, Ruth,

> Bonnie, Fay and Georgie [Fay Stancliff m Mildred Capper, they were parents

of

> Dale, Gale, Linda (m. Tex Colby), Donna. Fay and Mildred are in Sigler

Cem.

> He liked to go to Indianapolis to the Indy 500 race & had the first TV I

ever

> saw in the early 50s]

> Fay Stancliff 3 Nov 1916-17 Jan 1989 Mildred Stancliff 27 Jun 1917-May

1986

>

> Albert M. Stancliff 1862-1936 Sarah L Wills his wife 1864-1925

> Inf s/o AM & SL d Dec 24, 1886 Inf d/o AM & SL d Jan 9, 1905

> Nora Stancliff 1897-? m Finley H Consolver 1896-1856 (parents of Dwight,

> Bonadine, Sherman, David and Jane)

> Bonadine A. d/o Finley & Nora 1922-1927

> William B Wiles 1834-1907 Ann L. J. Stancliff, his wife 1843-? Mary

Wiles

> Shay 1875-1899

> Jacob C Wiles 1871-1909

> David R Stancliff d Feb 13, 1849 ag ca 54yrs

> George W son of DR & M d Feb 7, 1864 ag 16y9m24das

> Axia Jane d/o JA &MF d Oct 12, 1864

> Mary M Hollas d Feb 21, 1889 ag 84y4m29das [David's widow?]

> Clell and brother Ed were surveying their miserable crop of corn in the

> drought of the 1930s

> and Ed said resignedly but still trying to console his brother "Oh,

Albert,

> there'll be some."

>

>

> For the Stancliffs online see

> then to

Wiles

> Gerry Hubacka, Judy Strohl is descended from James Stancliff, who I

believe

> is brother of Ann Stancliff Wiles. James Stan(d)cliff was married to two

of

> the Borings.

> Judy Strohl look at Gerry's website:

> Her name list is at



> There are some Borings there.

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From: Bonnie K Dozer

Hi Dean, I received both of your letters. Thanks for sending the

information on both of them. I just printed them and will look them

over.

I am still looking for more info on Fidella Newell. I found a website on

the Borings/Terry.

teajayshu/boring/fam00874.htm

The dates go back to abt 1681 on the Borings. Have you checked it out?

Thanks again for the info.

Bonnie

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Hi John,

Updated my website, have over 5,000 people in the database:

Palmer Family and Friends:

Take care,

Gerry

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Your file came through just fine. I shall try a GEDCOM file of anthony Sells

descendants. It has 2129 individuals! Let me know if this works!!

Thanks, CCC

0 HEAD

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1 DEST PAF

1 DATE 16 NOV 1999

1 FILE CLSELLS.GED

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1 NAME Carolyn Cell Choppin

1 ADDR P.O.Box 472411

2 CONT Aurora, CO 80047-2411

2 CONT (PAF#7A2 - Part 9 - desc. of Anthony)

1 PHON Michael.Choppin@

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1 NAME Anthony /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1712

2 PLAC OF CRESHEIM OR,Germantown,Philadelphia Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE 1792

2 PLAC HUNTINGDON TWP.,Huntingdon Co.,Pennsylvania

1 NOTE Many years also and lady in Franklin County, Ohio (Eva Sells Jeager)

was so

2 CONT anxious to join the DAR that she concocted a fake Bible record for her

2 CONT ancestor, Ludwick Sells and his siblings. She also "adopted" the

wrong

2 CONT parents for these children, in spite of the existance of a Anthony

Sell's will

2 CONT in the Huntington Co., PA probate files which clearly names ALL of

these

2 CONT children. Therefore, the birthdates for the children of Anthony and

Catherine

2 CONT Sell(s) given in the DAR and LDS Archive records are false! The

proper dates

2 CONT will probably never been known, since every indication is that Anthony

was like

2 CONT his father, a Mennonite in his early years, and they did not believe in

infant

2 CONT baptism, nor maintain church records of their children. Only Marriages

were

2 CONT recorded by the Mennonites, and many of them only in the records of

other

2 CONT ministers "by certificate" just to make them legal in Pennsylvania.

2 CONT The order of birth of Anthony's children and approximate birthdates

has

2 CONT therefore been questimated by when they appear as adults in the tax and

land

2 CONT records. (See also Newsletters #5; #10; #45; and many others.)

2 CONT Other records on this family can be found in Part 9, Chapter 1 of the

Celle

2 CONT Family Book.

1 FAMS @F9

0 @I31@ INDI

1 NAME Catherine /--??--/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1720/1724

2 PLAC of,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1792

2 PLAC of,HUNTINGDON TWP.,Huntingdon Co.,Pennsylvania

1 FAMS @F9

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1 NAME Solomon /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1740

2 PLAC of,,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE ABT 1816

2 PLAC of,,Washington Co.,Virginia

1 BURI

2 PLAC IGI #8579101

1 BAPL

2 DATE 28 APR 1950

1 ENDL

2 DATE 19 DEC 1950

2 TEMP IF

1 REFN 8579101

1 FAMS @F22

1 FAMS @F23

1 FAMC @F9

0 @I33@ INDI

1 NAME John /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1743/1745

2 PLAC of,Chester Co.,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE 1815

2 PLAC ,Clearmont Co.,Ohio

1 BAPL

2 DATE 28 APR 1950

1 ENDL

2 DATE 19 DEC 1950

2 TEMP IF

1 REFN 8579101

1 NOTE The 1815 will of John Sells is on file in Clermont County, book A, page

367:

2 CONT States as follows: "I give unto my son Benjamin Sells one dollar

supposing he

2 CONT has had his share. I give unto my Daughter Nancy's heirs, Abraham

Dewit and

2 CONT Mary Dewit, three dollars to each. I give my bed and bed clothing to

Sarah

2 CONT Sells, daughter to my son Abraham Sells. I give to Benjamin Sells my

son

2 CONT Abraham's son, fifteen dollars, the balance to my son Abraham Sells and

I do

2 CONT hereby leave and constitute my son Abraham Sells my Executor... "

2 CONT (see Celle Newsletter #39, page 2; #89, pages 4 & 5; and #90.)

1 NOTE It is presently believed that this John Sells, was a son of Anthony

and

2 CONT Catherine Sell(s) or Huntingdon Co., Penn.; that this John Sells lived

in

2 CONT Huntingdon Co. where he was a hatter from at least 1774 to 1796... that

he

2 CONT removed to Bracken Co., Kentucky with is brother Ludwig about 1798, and

was a

2 CONT hatter in Bracken Co., Ky. and/or Clermont Co., Ohio until his death

there in

2 CONT 1815. Name of his wife or wives is presently unknown. (see Part 9,

page 3;

2 CONT and Part 26 of the Celle Family Book.)

1 FAMS @F966

1 FAMC @F9

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1 NAME Ludwick OR_LODOWICK /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1747/1751

2 PLAC of,Chester or,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE 13 OCT 1823

2 PLAC Dublin,or "Sellsville",Franklin Co.,Ohio

1 BURI

2 PLAC Indian Run Cem.,reinterred in,Odd Fellows Cem.,Dublin

1 BAPL

2 DATE 28 APR 1950

1 ENDL

2 DATE 14 SEP 1950

2 TEMP SL

1 REFN 8579101

1 NOTE Ludwick moved from Huntingdon Co., Penn. to Mason Co., Kentucky abt

1797/8; and

2 CONT then to Franklin Co., Ohio a few years later, settling in the area

which is now

2 CONT Dublin. He planed the first Orchard in Washington twp. and helped

organize the

2 CONT Methodist Episcopal church there in 1807/8. A date for his birth was

engraved

2 CONT on his tombstone, but is not proven or even likely to be correct, but

rather

2 CONT someone's questiment several generations later. He was probably the

third or

2 CONT fourth son of Anthony and Catherine Sell, and probably born in Chester

or York

2 CONT County, Penn. His parents moved to Bedford, now Huntingdon County,

Penn. about

2 CONT 1765/70, by which time Ludwick was probably already married.

1 NOTE Sometime in the early 1900's one of Ludwick's decendants decided she

wanted to

2 CONT join the DAR, and in order to do so, "adopted" parents for Ludwick, and

created

2 CONT a fake bible record for his parents family. We now know that ALL the

2 CONT birthdates for Ludwick and his siblings are false; however most of

those for

2 CONT his children and grandchildren seem to be more accurate.

Nevertheless, ANY

2 CONT DAR Bible and Family Records, such as those on file at the State of

Ohio

2 CONT Library; and Ohio Historical Society, should be questioned and

verified. We

2 CONT have used them in this record ONLY when other original sources are not

2 CONT available. In some cases we have noted both records in the notes.

1 NOTE "The History of Franklin and Pickaway Counties, Ohio", page 369

contains the

2 CONT following statement: "Among the first settlers of Washington township

were

2 CONT Ludwick Sells and his sons, Samuel, Peter, Benjamin, and William from

2 CONT Huntington County, Pennsylvania. John Sells, (another son of

Ludwick) also

2 CONT came into the same neighborhood in the fall of 1808. Two of the

brothers,

2 CONT Peter and Benjamin, came to Ohio first of all, and purchased four

hundred acres

2 CONT of land, where the town of Dublin now stands, for their brothers and

father...

2 CONT They made a large camp, near the spring at Dublin bridge, where they

lived some

2 CONT weeks, until cabins could be built. Their settlement was made along

the river

2 CONT bank, below the present site of the bridge, and high enough from the

bed of the

2 CONT river to be safe from floods. The street on which they settled is now

called

2 CONT River Street."

1 FAMS @F109

1 FAMC @F9

0 @I35@ INDI

1 NAME Esther or Catherine/SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1752

2 PLAC of,,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE BEF 1792

2 PLAC OF HARRISBURG,DAUPHIN CO.,OR HUNTINGDON CO,Pennsylvania

1 FAMC @F9

0 @I36@ INDI

1 NAME Abraham Sell\ /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 28 OCT 1752

2 PLAC of,Mt.Joy twp.,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT JUN 1802

2 PLAC of,Walingham,Ontario,Canada

1 BAPL

2 DATE 28 APR 1950

1 ENDL

2 DATE 19 DEC 1950

2 TEMP IF

1 REFN 8579101

1 NOTE Petition of Abraham Sells of Walingham twp., Ontario, Canada dated 30

June 1802

2 CONT for a lot in Markham twp., "in Gwillinburg or upon Young Street" states

that he

2 CONT came into the provinence "about two years ago with his family

consisting of a

2 CONT wife and five children and two daughters with their husbands, John

Everly

2 CONT (Eberly) and Joseph Spitler..." This proves that Abraham did not die

just

2 CONT after the family emigrted in 1798, but was still living in June 1802!

1 NOTE See IGI Batch #8579101. Abraham married by 1776 to Mary Wilson "of

Maryland",

2 CONT daughter of John and Mary Wilson of Barre Co., Penn.; they had seven

children,

2 CONT all born in Bedford (now Huntingdon) Co., Penn. Abraham was a

farmer, miller

2 CONT and tavern keeper; also a Physician and a Tory. He purchased land in

1774/5 in

2 CONT Bedford (now Huntingdon) Co., Penn.; later bought the site of the

Bebault mill

2 CONT at the junction of Spruce Creek and Little Juniata River, and ran a

grist mill

2 CONT and saw mill there for ten years. In the 1780's it was known as

"Sells"

2 CONT Mill"; now it is a village, called Spruce Creek. In the springtime of

1798

2 CONT Abraham moved his family to Canada, embarking at Erie and landing at

what is

2 CONT now Port Dover, Ontario. He was thought to have died two weeks later

at Port

2 CONT Ryerse, Ontario, (but his apparently is not correct, see above). He

was also

2 CONT said to be buried there with a limestone headstone without any

inscription.

1 NOTE Records of his family and descendants can be found in the booklet "The

Sells

2 CONT Family in Canada" written Dec. 1930 by K.W.McKay at St. Thomas,

Ontario,

2 CONT Canada; and in "The First Four Generations of the Sells Family in

America",

2 CONT written by Dr. Ray Sells Morrish, MD of Flint, Michigan in 1956.

1 NOTE Records of descendant Rodney Hitchcock of Blackfoot, Idaho - by

correspondence

2 CONT in June 1997 - give Abraham's birth date as 28 Oct. 1752, but no

source...

2 CONT perhaps calculated from his deathdate or other family records in

Canada.

2 CONT Descendant Wayne Barnes gives this same birthdate in his records, but

no

2 CONT source.

1 FAMS @F462

1 FAMC @F9

0 @I37@ INDI

1 NAME Sophia /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT NOV 1756

2 PLAC ,GERMANY TWP.,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE BEF 1818

2 PLAC BERTIE TWP.,CO.LINCOLN,Ontario,Canada

1 BURI

2 PLAC IGI #8579101

1 BAPL

2 DATE 2 NOV 1940

1 ENDL

2 DATE 8 NOV 1940

2 TEMP Logan

1 REFN 8579101

1 NOTE Sophia's birth year is probaly the only one that MIGHT be correct in

the LDS

2 CONT and DAR records; but there in NO proof that 26 Nov. 1756 is her actual

birth

2 CONT date.

1 FAMS @F25

1 FAMC @F9

0 @I38@ INDI

1 NAME Anthony /SELL\SELLS/

1 TITL Jr.

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1740

2 PLAC of,,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE 1800/1815

2 PLAC Ohio,or,Westmoreland Co.,Pennsylvania

1 BURI

2 DATE BEF 1815

1 BAPL

2 DATE 28 APR 1950

1 ENDL

2 DATE 19 DEC 1950

2 TEMP IF

1 REFN 8579101

1 NOTE Birth record in IGI, Batch #8579101... but dates are fictious!

1 NOTE Berkeley Co., (West) Virginia deed book 5, page 664, #829881: Sill to

Ferris,

2 CONT lease and release, dated 18 June 1781: "Anthony Sill and Mary his

wife, of

2 CONT Monongahela Co., Virginia and William Ferris of Berkeley Co.,

Virginia... for

2 CONT 10 Pounds current money... land in Berkeley Co. on the north side of

Back

2 CONT Creek..." Release states: "Justices in Westmoreland Co., Penn.

interviewed

2 CONT Mary, wife of Anthony Sill, on 22 Aug. 1781, for her approval of sale

due to

2 CONT her right of dower. Approved." (see also Celle Newsletter #78, page 2

& 3.)

1 NOTE "Anthony Sells" is listed in "Historical Register of Virginians in the

2 CONT Revolution" (for 1775), and in "Virginia Soldiers of 1776".

1 NOTE In 1785 "Anthony Sells" was taxes in Menallen twp., Fayette Co., Penn.

and he

2 CONT is there also on the 1790 Census.

2 CONT By June 1793, when the heirs of Anthony Sells Sr. sign deed to release

property

2 CONT in Frederick Co., Maryland; "Antony Sell" signed by mark and gave his

residence

2 CONT as "Ohio County, Virginia" (now West Virginia).

2 CONT By 1815 Anthony Sell(s) is deceased... see notes for son Baldwin.

2 CONT However, no probate records have yet been found, so his list of

children are

2 CONT only questiments at this time. The only one that is certain is

Baldwin.

1 FAMS @F14

1 FAMS @F1261

1 FAMC @F9

0 @I53@ INDI

1 NAME Mary or Anna_Maria/NOEL\NOELL/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1740/1742

2 PLAC of,,York Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1781

2 PLAC of,Pennsylvania,West Virginia,OR Ohio

1 FAMS @F14

0 @I54@ INDI

1 NAME John /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1760

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1830

2 PLAC of,Fairfield twp.,Tuscarawas Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Records located to date are very unclear as to which pertain to John

and which

2 CONT to Jonathan Sell(s), and if they were one person, or two, and if either

or

2 CONT both were sons of Anthony Sells Jr. as outlined here. Until further

info is

2 CONT available, we are temporarily listing these as two different sons of

Anthony

2 CONT Sells Jr.; and guessing that the following records pertain to John.

(31-2)

2 CONT The only separating records are the 1820 and 1830 Ohio Census, that

show a John

2 CONT Sell in Fairfield twp., Tuscarawas Co.; AND a Jonathan Sill(s) in

Kirkwood

2 CONT twp., Belmont Co., Ohio. Beyond this, we are only quessing at this

time.

1 NOTE Fayette County, Uniontown Courthouse, PA.: Book E, page 219: dated

March 16,

2 CONT 1804: "John Sell of Georges township, to John Lechner of the same...

for $227

2 CONT PA money... 2 mares, 2 cows, 2 heifers, 12 hogs, 4 beds, 4 bedsteads,

twin

2 CONT plaited stove, copper kettle, one iron kettler, 4 iron pots and small

house

2 CONT furniture..." witnesses = Michael Cline and James H. Robinson.

Recorded March

2 CONT 19, 1804. (This document looks like a "moving sale"!!)

1 NOTE "Early Ohioans' Residences from the Land Grant Records", page 31:

"Jonath.

2 CONT Sells, 29 Dec. 1804, S.20, T.9, R.6, book #432, page 41; Resident of

Belmont

2 CONT Co., Ohio at time of Purchase". Steubenville Land Office.

2 CONT "Federal Land Series": "Jonathan Sells... obtained land in Range 8,

twp. 9,

2 CONT Quarter 20, from Steubenville Office, on 8 March 1809. (These records

may be

2 CONT for a brother or cousin.)

1 NOTE Tuscarawas County, Ohio Tax List: "John Sells... 1811 and 1816... 160

acres in

2 CONT Range 1, twp., 9, Section 2."

1 NOTE 1820 Census: Fairfield twp., Tuscarawas Co., Ohio: "John Sell: 1 male

over 45,

2 CONT 1 female over 45, 1 female 26 to 44."

1 NOTE 1830 Census: Fairfield twp., Tuscarawas Co., Ohio: "John Sell: 1 male

age 70

2 CONT to 80 years; 1 female age 70 to 80 years." (This gives John and his

wife

2 CONT birthyears of between 1750 and 1760. His wife's name has yet to be

learned.

2 CONT Children are complete questiments.)

1 FAMS @F1041

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I55@ INDI

1 NAME Henry /Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1760/1763

2 PLAC of,,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE ABT 1818/1824

2 PLAC W.D.25 SEPT.1818,W.P.MARCH 1824,Tuscarawas Co.,Ohio

1 FAMS @F18

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I56@ INDI

1 NAME Hannah /Sells/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 20 AUG 1792

1 DEAT

2 DATE 2 APR 1862

2 PLAC ,,Owen Co.,Indiana

1 NOTE Hannah's birth and death dates are recorded on her tombstone in Owen

County,

2 CONT Indiana; along with those of her husband.

2 CONT Descendant Denny Lee of San Jose, Calif. has records of the Newport

family.

1 FAMS @F15

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I57@ INDI

1 NAME Anthony Sells\Cells\ /Sell/

1 TITL III

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 11 DEC 1787

2 PLAC ,,,Pennsylvania

1 DEAT

2 DATE 7 JUL 1866

2 PLAC ,,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 BURI

2 PLAC St.John's Cem.,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Marriage of "Anthony Cells and Catherine Cale" recorded in the IGI

#M514371.

2 CONT Estate settlement of Anthony Sell/Sells, of 1866, Carroll Co., Ohio

received

2 CONT from Kenneth Brasel of Riverton, Wyoming by correspondence in 1989.

(see also

2 CONT Celle Newsletter #74, page 2.)

1 NOTE Family record of this couple from Garland Lacey & Helen Rankin... see

Celle

2 CONT Newsletter #93, page 5.

1 FAMS @F19

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I58@ INDI

1 NAME Peter /Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1788

2 PLAC AGE 62 IN 1850,,,Maryland

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1850

2 PLAC of,,Crawford Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE This Peter Sells is believed to be a son of Anthony Sells and Mary

Noel, but no

2 CONT certain proof of this has been found to date. (See Celle Newsletters

#31 and

2 CONT 34.) Census records record his family in 1820 in Canton twp., Stark

Co., Ohio

2 CONT with himself, aage 16-25, his wife, age 16-25, and 1 male under 10 -

probably

2 CONT their son Jacob, born in 1814.

2 CONT The 1830 Census of Canton twp., Stark Co., Ohio records this Peter Sell

with

2 CONT himself age 30-40, his wife age 30-40, and 1 male 15-20 (Jacob?), one

male 5-10

2 CONT (perhaps another son??); and 1 female 15-20,a nd 1 femaale 5-10

(perhaps a

2 CONT daughter, or daughters??)

2 CONT The Crawford County, Ohio history of 1881 says on page 969, that Peter

and

2 CONT Barbara Sluss Sells moved their family from Stark County, Ohio to

Crawford

2 CONT County "about the year 1831..."

2 CONT The 1840 Census of Liberty twp., Crawford County, Ohio lists Peter

Sells, with

2 CONT himself, age 50-60, and 1 male 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 15-20,

and 1

2 CONT female 5-10. These records combined, could indicate as many as five

children:

2 CONT two sons and possibly three daughers. Only Jacob is mentioned in the

Crawford

2 CONT County History. Who were the other? Or was Jacob their only

child???

1 FAMS @F20

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I59@ INDI

1 NAME Lydia /Sells/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1790

2 PLAC of,Pennsylvania,OR OHIO CO.,(West) Virginia

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1820

2 PLAC of,SANDY TWP.,Tuscarawas Co.,Ohio

1 FAMS @F16

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I60@ INDI

1 NAME Abraham /Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1794

2 PLAC probably in,Ohio Co.,(West),Virginia

1 DEAT

2 DATE JUL 1869

2 PLAC age 77 years,,Coshocton Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Abraham Sells moved from Marietta in 1814 to Coshocton. He was a

cabinet

2 CONT maker; is on the 1850 (age 56) and 1860 Census records of Coshocton

Co., Ohio;

2 CONT and has a biographical sketch in the "History of Coshocton County".

2 CONT His marriage record, and those of most of his children, are in the

Coshocton

2 CONT County Marriage Records; and the IGI.

1 FAMS @F21

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I61@ INDI

1 NAME Baldwin /SELL\SILLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1799

2 PLAC ,(West) Virginia,or,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC age 50 in 1850,Iowa,AGE 71 IN 1870,Oregon

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1870

2 PLAC of,,Jackson Co.,Oregon

1 NOTE An 1815 Harrison Co., Ohio Guardianship record states "...Jacob Myers

appointed

2 CONT guardian for Balwin Sell, son of Anthony Sell, deceased..." Journal A,

page

2 CONT 34, administrative Docket, Book A, 1813-1839.

1 NOTE Baldwin Sills is listed in the 1830 Census, Richland Co., Ohio, Madison

twp; in

2 CONT the 1840 Census, Guernsey Co., Ohio, Jefferson twp.; in the 1850

Census,

2 CONT Muscatin Co., Iowa (which says he was born in Virginia); and with his

son,

2 CONT Baldwin Jr., in the 1870 Census, Jackson Co., Oregon (which says he was

born in

2 CONT Ohio!). (see Celle Family Book, Part 31, Family #7.)

1 FAMS @F17

1 FAMC @F1261

0 @I62@ INDI

1 NAME unnamed_daughter /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE 18 MAR 1764

2 PLAC of,GERMANY TWP.,York (Adams) Co.,Pennsylvania

1 CHR

2 PLAC ST.JOHNS EVANG.,LUTHERAN CH.,Littlestown,Adams Co.

1 BAPL

2 DATE 9 NOV 1972

2 TEMP PROVO

1 ENDL

2 DATE 9 JAN 1973

2 TEMP PROVO

1 REFN C504801/

1 NOTE Two IGI entries for this child.

1 FAMC @F14

0 @I63@ INDI

1 NAME Henry /NEWPORT/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 14 FEB 1790

1 DEAT

2 DATE 24 JUN 1849

2 PLAC ,,Owen Co.,Indiana

1 REFN M513191

1 FAMS @F15

0 @I64@ INDI

1 NAME Jacob /COGAN/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1785/1795

1 REFN M513191

1 FAMS @F16

0 @I65@ INDI

1 NAME Sally /GALLON/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1800/1805

2 PLAC probably,,,Ohio

1 REFN M514151

1 FAMS @F17

0 @I66@ INDI

1 NAME Baldwin /SILLS/

1 TITL Jr.

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1835

2 PLAC AGE 35 IN 1870,RICHLAND CO.,OR GUERNSEY CO.,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1870

2 PLAC probably,,,Oregon

1 FAMS @F1264

1 FAMC @F17

0 @I67@ INDI

1 NAME Elizabeth /--??--/

1 SEX F

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1824

2 PLAC of,,Tuscarawas Co.,Ohio

1 FAMS @F18

0 @I68@ INDI

1 NAME Sophia (Mrs.David JOHNSON)/Sells/

1 SEX F

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1824

1 FAMC @F18

0 @I69@ INDI

1 NAME Jonathan /Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1790/1795

1 FAMC @F18

0 @I70@ INDI

1 NAME Sarah /Sells/

1 SEX F

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1824

1 FAMC @F18

0 @I71@ INDI

1 NAME Catherine /CALE\KAIL/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE 5 MAY 1785

2 PLAC of,Hampshire Co.,(West),Virginia

1 CHR

2 PLAC age 66 in 1850

1 DEAT

2 DATE 4 SEP 1846

2 PLAC of,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 BURI

2 PLAC Arabia Cemetery,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 REFN M514371

1 NOTE Records of the Kail/Cale family from Garland Lacey, of Washington,

Illinois, by

2 CONT correspondence, April 1993.

1 FAMS @F19

0 @I72@ INDI

1 NAME Gabriel /Sell/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1807/1808

2 PLAC probably,,Jefferson Co.,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC age 43 in 1850

1 DEAT

2 DATE 2 JUN 1870

2 PLAC ,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Gabriel Sell/Sells is recorded in the 1840, 1850, and 1860 Census in

Perry

2 CONT twp., Carroll Co., Ohio... In 1850 his wife "N.J" and six children are

listed.

1 FAMS @F420

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I73@ INDI

1 NAME Sarah "Sally" /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1811/1812

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE 1873

2 PLAC age 61 years,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 BURI

2 PLAC Perryville U.P.,Cemetery,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.

1 FAMS @F421

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I74@ INDI

1 NAME John /Sell/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1813/1815

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 NOTE This John Sell MAY be the one who married Catherine McKessin in 1835 in

Carroll

2 CONT County; AND/OR he could the one who married Fanny Spencer in 1833 in

Belmont

2 CONT County, Ohio. He could be the John Sell in the 1840 Perry twp.,

Carroll Co.,

2 CONT Ohio Census; and/or the John Sell, age 35, wife = Mary... in the 1850

Wyandot

2 CONT Co., Ohio Census; and/or the John Sell in the 1860 Wyandot Co. census.

1 FAMS @F422

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I75@ INDI

1 NAME Sophia /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE 11 MAY 1814

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE 30 SEP 1897

2 PLAC ,,Marion Co.,Illinois

1 BURI

2 PLAC ELDER CEMETERY,,Marion Co.,Illinois

1 FAMS @F419

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I76@ INDI

1 NAME Benjamin /Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 1 MAY 1815

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC ,,age 65 in 1880

1 DEAT

2 DATE 1888

2 PLAC of,,Tuscarawas Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Benjamin and Alice Sells, and also Jasper Sells are recorded in the

1850 Census

2 CONT of Sm. Twp., Tuscarawas Co. Ohio.

2 CONT Benjamin and Ally Sells are also listed in the 1880 Census in Perry

twp.,

2 CONT Carroll Co., Ohio... with three more children, born after 1850. Also

living

2 CONT with them is a granddaughter, "Manda Smith, age 18", thus born a.

1862... which

2 CONT of their daughters married a Mr. Smith by 1862??? And next door is

living

2 CONT son, Antony with wife Catherine and two sons. Also in Perry twp. is

living

2 CONT Benjamin's brother Antony & Margaret (Albaugh) Sell, with brother

Peter. And

2 CONT in Union twp. is living Peter and Sarah (Burrier) Sell, another son of

2 CONT Benjamin and Alice Sell(s).

1 FAMS @F423

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I77@ INDI

1 NAME Mary /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1815/1816

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 FAMS @F424

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I78@ INDI

1 NAME Peter /Sell/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1814/1818

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC age 32 in 1850,age 43 in 1860,age 66 in 1880

1 NOTE ! "Antony" and Margaret Sell are recorded on the 1880 Census of Perry

twp.,

2 CONT Carroll Co., Ohio on page 153-D, dwelling #148... brother Peter Sell,

age 66,

2 CONT is living with them.

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I79@ INDI

1 NAME Harrison /Sell/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 2 NOV 1818

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC age 30 in 1850

1 DEAT

2 DATE 11 FEB 1907

2 PLAC Stockton,,,Missouri

1 BURI

2 PLAC Stockton,,,Missouri

1 NOTE Records of this family and their descendants from Mildred Sell Gras,

by

2 CONT correspondence in 1984... she is descended from Reuben W. Sell.

2 CONT Mildred states that Harrison was "born and raised near Stubensville,

Ohio...

2 CONT later moved to (Upper) Sandusky/ Wyandot Co., Ohio... then to Missouri,

near

2 CONT Springfield. He is recorded in the 1850 census of Wyandot Co.,

Ohio... with

2 CONT his wife, Elizabeth, and 1st two children, Wilson and Lydia.

1 FAMS @F425

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I80@ INDI

1 NAME Anne /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1819/1822

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 FAMS @F426

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I81@ INDI

1 NAME Catherine /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1820/1823

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 FAMS @F427

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I82@ INDI

1 NAME Anthony /Sell/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1824/1825

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC age 26 in 1850,age 55 in 1880

1 DEAT

2 PLAC of,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE ! "Antony" and Margaret Sell are recorded on the 1880 Census of Perry

twp.,

2 CONT Carroll Co., Ohio on page 153-D, dwelling #148... two children are

still at

2 CONT home - Mary and Sydney - and his brother Peter is living with them

also.

1 FAMS @F428

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I83@ INDI

1 NAME Margaret /Sell/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1825/1830

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1866

2 PLAC of,Perry twp.,Carroll Co.,Ohio

1 FAMS @F429

1 FAMC @F19

0 @I84@ INDI

1 NAME Barbara /SLUSS/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1796

1 DEAT

2 DATE 2 JAN 1840

2 PLAC age 44y,9mo.,,of,Crawford Co.

1 BURI

2 PLAC Union Cemetery,New Washington,Crawford Co.,Ohio

1 REFN M514301

1 FAMS @F20

0 @I85@ INDI

1 NAME Jacob /Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 26 DEC 1814

2 PLAC of,Canton twp.,Stark Co.,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE 21 MAY 1874

2 PLAC age 59y,5m,25d.,of,Crawford Co.,Ohio

1 BURI

2 PLAC ,HOMES TWP.,Crawford Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Susan A.(Hillis) Sharrock of Bucyrus, Ohio sent records by mail July

1998, of

2 CONT the Hillis family, including a family tree of the descendants of Davis

Hillis

2 CONT and Susan M. Sells, daughter of Jacob Sells and Rebecca McBride... this

tree

2 CONT prepared by Dee Volk in August 1992; and pages 634 and 635

from the

2 CONT "History of Crawford County and Representative Citizens"... which

states that

2 CONT Jacob "was born in Stark County, Ohio, where his people were early

settlers...

2 CONT moved on a farm which they developed and improved... (Jacob died) in

1874...

2 CONT he was a life-long Methodist..."

1 FAMS @F483

1 FAMC @F20

0 @I86@ INDI

1 NAME Phoebe /Hart/

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1794/1795

2 PLAC AGE 56 IN 1850,,,New Jersey

1 DEAT

2 DATE MAR 1879

2 PLAC AGE 84 YEARS,,Coshocton Co.,Ohio

1 REFN M514331

1 FAMS @F21

0 @I87@ INDI

1 NAME Andrew /Sell/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1817/1819

2 PLAC ,,,Ohio

1 CHR

2 PLAC MARRIED 1836,Tuscarawas Co.,Ohio,(IGI)

1 FAMC @F21

0 @I88@ INDI

1 NAME James /SELL\SELLS/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE ABT 1830/1832

2 PLAC ,,Coshocton Co.,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE AFT 1868

1 NOTE James is age 18 on the 1850 Census, living with his parents; In 1860 he

is

2 CONT listed in Tuscarawas twp., Coshocton Co., Ohio. He Served in the Civil

War,

2 CONT enlisting 16 August 1862. He was a 2nd Lieutenent, in Company D, 122nd

Ohio

2 CONT Infantry. He was County Sheriff from 1865 to 1868. What he did after

the

2 CONT death of his wife in 1868 is unknown.

2 CONT Only one daughter is listed in the 1860 Census. It is unknown if he

had any

2 CONT other children.

1 FAMS @F1079

1 FAMC @F21

0 @I89@ INDI

1 NAME Benjamin F. "Frank"/Sells/

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 12 NOV 1824

2 PLAC ,,Coshocton Co.,Ohio

1 DEAT

2 DATE NOV 1906

2 PLAC AGE 82 YEARS,,Coshocton Co.,Ohio

1 NOTE Benjamin "Frank" Sells served in the Mexican War in June 1846, as a

Corporal in

2 CONT Company B, 3rd Ohio Volunteers. He was County Auditor from 1850 to

1852.

2 CONT And in the Civil War, enlisting in August 1862. He was a Captain in

Company D.

2 CONT 122nd Ohio Infantry; until discharge in March 1864.

1 NOTE The 1870 Census of Coshocton Co., Ohio records this family on page

247:

2 CONT "Frank Sells, age 46, liveryman, born Ohio; Eliza, age 45, born New

York;

2 CONT William, age 19, born Ohio; Howard, age 17, born Ohio; Joseph, age 15,

born

2 CONT Ohio; Delia, age 13, born Ohio; Clara, age 9, born Ohio; Frank, age 6,

born

2 CONT Ohio; Charlie, age 2, born Ohio.

1 NOTE The 1880 Census of Coshocton Co., Ohio records in dwelling #131, family

#168:

2 CONT "B.F.Sells, age 55, occupation "livery", born Ohio, father born

Virginia,

2 CONT mother born New Jersey; wife, Eliza, age 55, born New York; son Wm.,

age 29,

2 CONT born Ohio; son Joseph, age 25, born Ohio; daughter Delia, age 23, born

Ohio;

2 CONT daughter Clara, age 20, born Ohio; son Frank, age 16, born Ohio; son

Charles,

2 CONT age 11, born Ohio; son John, age 9, born Ohio."

1 NOTE And recorded in the Coshocton County Marriage records: "Benjamin F.

Sells,

2 CONT married 6 Febraury 1849 to Eliza Shaw." (see Celle News. #59, page 6)

1 NOTE A biographical sketch of "Captain B.F.Sells, Coshocton, Ohio, livery

man, west

2 CONT Main street... son of Abraham and Phebe (Hart) Sells..." appears in the

History

2 CONT of Coshocton Co., Ohio, on page 783. His wife, her parents, and

John Grace wrote:

Carolyn, a gedcom would be fine. I have Ultimate Family Tree, but I don't use

it to maintain my files. Let me know if the attached chart does not come

across successfully.

John

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John,

I don't know if this will be of any benefit to you or if it will just cloud

the water that much more, but I happened to be doing some research in KY and

ran accross the following:

I found a John Henry Henson born 5/22/1897, died 4/1/1963 buried in the

Henson Cemetary in Floyd County KY. I realize the birth date is later than

the information you have, but I wonder if there is not some relationship.

Of course it could be just coinidental especially with the confusion factor

on the John Henson of Portsmouth.

Best regards,

Lee

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John, Thank you so very much for offering your book on the Grace line.

Indeed, I would greatly appreciate a copy! I will gladly give you my mailing

address. I would like to reimburse you for the expense in sending so many

pages and will pay you whatever you need for duplicating. Please tell me how

much you think it will all cost and I'll send you a check.

Also, did you want me to look up any info for you in the Ohio marriage book?

Thanks so much,

Pat Nichols

2931 Pahokee Trace

Birmingham, AL 35243

205-967-4760

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Subject: Family Tree

Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:50:16 -0700

Hi John It has been a long weekend here, we stay home and have the family come here for the holiday's. We had around 40 people, some for the day and some with there motor homes or campers, also some in tents.

I'm going to give you all the people that are a part of the Cramblit that I have and I would like the same from you. In doing that there will be more then one copy of the Cramblit Family out there for someone to pick up on.

The attach file may take some time to load.

Maybe we can keep each other up on the Family over the years. Ho Yes I would like the Ross family too.

Thanks Rob Moore

Generation No. 3

3. Vesta V.3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 24, 1883 in Jackson, Oh., and died June 1947 in Jackson, Oh.. She married Harry Mapes Unknown in Jackson, Oh.. He was born October 14, 1877 in Jackson, Oh., and died December 1947 in Jackson, Oh..

Children of Vesta Cramblit and Harry Mapes are:

7. i. Patty Louville4 Mapes, b. March 4, 1904, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

8. ii. Pauline Mapes, b. December 23, 1906, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

9. iii. Marcella Mapes, b. July 30, 1907, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Stanley Mapes, b. October 16, 1908, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown; m. Jane Jaynes, Unknown, unknown; b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

v. Velma Mapes, b. February 1, 1910, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown; m. Eugene Sammons, Unknown, unknown; b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

10. vi. Bernice Mapes, b. January 21, 1912, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

vii. Edward Mapes, b. August 12, 1913, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

11. viii. Doris Mapes, b. July 13, 1915, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

12. ix. Glenna Mapes, b. July 28, 1917, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown.

x. Doral Eugene Mapes, b. August 8, 1919, Jackson Oh.; d. Unknown, unknown; m. Gertrude Landrens, Unknown, unknown; b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

13. xi. Avinell Mapes, b. October 2, 1920, Jackson Oh.; d. September 1992, unknown.

14. xii. Majel Mapes, b. September 8, 1925, Jackson Oh..

4. Eugene A.3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born March 25, 1896 in Houe, and died February 3, 1917 in Camp Sheridan Alabama Armed Services. He married Hazel Gtham Unknown in Jackson, Ohio. She was born Unknown in Jackson, Ohio.

Child of Eugene Cramblit and Hazel Gtham is:

i. Eugena May4 Cramblit, b. March 1917, unknown.

5. Leona Garnet3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born October 4, 1898 in Jackson, Ohio, and died May 21, 1995 in Springfield, Ohio. She married Joseph Anderson May 1, 1920 in Hillsboro, Ohio. He was born June 1, 1894 in Newton, Ohio, and died October 4, 1952 in Springfield Ohio.

Children of Leona Cramblit and Joseph Anderson are:

15. i. Joseph William4 Anderson, b. March 28, 1921, unknown.

16. ii. Betty Herriet Anderson, b. August 31, 1924, unknown.

iii. Jean Ann Anderson, b. May 17, 1926, unknown; m. Bill Leffel, Unknown, unknown; b. Unknown, unknown; d. Unknown, unknown.

17. iv. Edward A. Anderson, b. January 10, 1932, unknown.

6. Leon Darwin3 Cramblit (William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 23, 1900 in Jackson, Ohio, and died November 19, 1938 in Jackson, Ohio. He married Lillian Pant July 7, 1924 in Indian River, Mi., daughter of Thomas Pant and Goldie Coatte. She was born March 22, 1907 in Charlevoix, Mi., and died August 22, 1953 in Muskegon Co. , Mi..

Children of Leon Cramblit and Lillian Pant are:

18. i. Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, b. February 22, 1925, Jackson, Oh.; d. March 22, 1989, Greenville, Mi..

ii. Glenna Maxine Cramblit, b. February 19, 1926, London Ohio; m. (1) George Pant, June 3, 1944, Elpaso, Tx.; b. December 21, 1911, Charielevoix, Mi.; d. September 17, 1991, unknown; m. (2) Cecil (Jack) Danes, March 4, 1959, White Cloud, Mi.; b. April 13, 1915, Chinook Mantana; d. December 13, 1983, unknown.

19. iii. William Darwin Cramblit, b. February 16, 1927, London, Ohio; d. June 15, 1981, Okeechobee, Fl..

20. iv. Jesse Leroy Cramblit, b. September 1, 1928, London, Ohio.

21. v. Shirley Ann Cramblit, b. December 5, 1933, Jackson, Oh..

Generation No. 4

7. Patty Louville4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born March 4, 1904 in Jackson Oh., and died Unknown in unknown. She married Clyde Graham Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Patty Mapes and Clyde Graham are:

i. Clyde Jr.5 Graham, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Ellen Graham, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Norman Graham, b. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Eugene Graham, b. Unknown, unknown.

v. Joy Lou Graham, b. Unknown, unknown.

vi. Audrey Graham, b. Unknown, unknown.

8. Pauline4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born December 23, 1906 in Jackson Oh., and died Unknown in unknown. She married Lowell Walker Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Pauline Mapes and Lowell Walker are:

i. Billy5 Walker, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Vestta Walker, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Ottis Walker, b. Unknown, unknown.

9. Marcella4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born July 30, 1907 in Jackson Oh., and died Unknown in unknown. She married Arter Law Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Marcella Mapes and Arter Law are:

i. Arter Jr.5 Law, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Wanda Law, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Marlin Law, b. Unknown, unknown.

10. Bernice4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born January 21, 1912 in Jackson Oh., and died Unknown in unknown. She married Ed Myers Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Bernice Mapes and Ed Myers are:

i. Vesta5 Myers, b. March 29, 1928, unknown.

ii. Joseph Sonny Edward Myers, b. May 10, 1930, unknown.

iii. Patty Myers, b. April 26, 1932, unknown.

11. Doris4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born July 13, 1915 in Jackson Oh., and died Unknown in unknown. She married Fern Red Evans Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Doris Mapes and Fern Evans are:

i. Roger5 Evens, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Judy Evens, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Jane Evens, b. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Saley Evens, b. Unknown, unknown.

v. Susie Evens, b. Unknown, unknown.

vi. Rondy Evens, b. Unknown, unknown.

12. Glenna4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born July 28, 1917 in Jackson Oh., and died Unknown in unknown. She married Clayton Music Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died Unknown in unknown.

Children of Glenna Mapes and Clayton Music are:

i. Marvin5 Music, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Janice Music, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Damon Music, b. Unknown, unknown.

13. Avinell4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born October 2, 1920 in Jackson Oh., and died September 1992 in unknown. She married Isaic Channell Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Avinell Mapes and Isaic Channell are:

i. Gloria5 Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Karen Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Mike Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Debbie Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

v. Larry Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

vi. Harry Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

22. vii. Marsha Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

viii. Paul Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

ix. Dennis Channell, b. Unknown, unknown.

14. Majel4 Mapes (Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 8, 1925 in Jackson Oh.. She married Russell Keairnes Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Majel Mapes and Russell Keairnes are:

i. Carol5 Keairnes, b. Unknown, unknown.

23. ii. Pamila Keairnes, b. Unknown, unknown.

24. iii. Tisa Keairnes, b. Unknown, unknown.

iv. Majel Keairnes, b. Unknown, unknown.

15. Joseph William4 Anderson (Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born March 28, 1921 in unknown. He married Mary Little Unknown in unknown. She was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Joseph Anderson and Mary Little are:

25. i. Rica Ann5 Anderson, b. March 19, 1947, unknown.

26. ii. Bobby Anderson, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Joe Eddy Anderson, b. Unknown, unknown.

16. Betty Herriet4 Anderson (Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 31, 1924 in unknown. She married (1) Gean Sibole June 23, 1941 in Urbana Oh.. He was born October 28, 1914 in unknown, and died 1992 in unknown. She married (2) John E. Kunkel July 30, 1951 in Springfield Oh.. He was born January 28, 1922 in unknown.

Child of Betty Anderson and Gean Sibole is:

27. i. Gloria Jean5 Sibole, b. December 14, 1948, unknown.

Children of Betty Anderson and John Kunkel are:

ii. Jean Ann5 Kunkel, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Jonney Kunkel, b. Unknown, unknown.

17. Edward A.4 Anderson (Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born January 10, 1932 in unknown. He married Bettty J. Unknown in unknown. She was born November 18, 1930 in unknown.

Children of Edward Anderson and Bettty J. are:

28. i. Christian5 Andrew, b. May 17, 1952, unknown.

29. ii. Andrea Denise Andrew, b. August 25, 1953, unknown.

18. Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit (Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born February 22, 1925 in Jackson, Oh., and died March 22, 1989 in Greenville, Mi.. She married Howard Evert Franklin July 31, 1940 in unknown. He was born March 20, 1918 in Boyne City, Mi., and died November 1991 in Greenville, Mi..

Notes for Howard Evert Franklin:

IN MEMORY OF

HOWARD E. FRANKLIN

BORN MARCH 20, 1918

BOYNE CITY, MICHIGAN

PASSED AWAY

NOVEMBER 7, 1991

GREENVILLE, MICHIGAN

FUNERAL-COMMITTAL SERVICES

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 1991

AT 1:00 P.M.

HUFFMAN FUNERAL HOME

BELDING, MICHIGAN

CLERGYMAN

REV. LARRY MOSHER

INTERMENT

RIVER RIDGE CEMETERY

BELDING, MICHIGAN

Children of Harriet Cramblit and Howard Franklin are:

30. i. Patricia Jean5 Franklin, b. December 15, 1943, Flint Mi..

31. ii. Ronald Darwin Franklin, b. June 7, 1947, unknown; d. May 3, 1974, unknown.

32. iii. Barbara Dena Franklin, b. August 14, 1952, MUskegon Co. Mi..

33. iv. Lela Jo Franklin, b. August 9, 1953, Muskegon Mi..

34. v. Randy Jay Franklin, b. December 26, 1967, Grant Mi..

19. William Darwin4 Cramblit (Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born February 16, 1927 in London, Ohio, and died June 15, 1981 in Okeechobee, Fl.. He married (1) Gertrude Trudy Wright. She was born February 8, 1924 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He married (2) Margaret Mary Hughson November 2, 1946 in Muskegon Co., MI., daughter of William Hughson and Charlott Marquette. She was born September 10, 1914 in Ashland, Wi..

Notes for William Darwin Cramblit:

IN MEMORY OF

WILLIAM D. CRAMBLIT

ENTERED INTO LIFE

FEBRUARY 16, 1927

ENTERED INTO REST

JUNE 15, 1981

TIME AND PLACE OF SERVICES

2:00P.M.THURSDAY,JUNE18,1981

BUXTON FUNERAL HOME

OKEECHOBEE, FLORIDA

CLERGYMAN OFFICIATING

PASTOR ALAN L. BEAVER

FIRST UNITED METHODISTCHURCH

INTERMENT

EVERGREEN CEMETERY

OKEECHOBEE, FLORIDA

Children of William Cramblit and Margaret Hughson are:

35. i. Mary Louise5 Cramblit, b. May 13, 1948, Muskegon Co. Mi..

36. ii. Leon Darwin Cramblit, b. July 31, 1951, Muskegon Co. Mi..

20. Jesse Leroy4 Cramblit (Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 1, 1928 in London, Ohio. He married Betty J. Garvey January 26, 1952 in Muskegon Co., Mi., daughter of Harley Garvey and Rita McClain. She was born February 22, 1929 in Muskegon Co,. Mi., and died September 2, 1987 in Muskegon Co., Mi..

Children of Jesse Cramblit and Betty Garvey are:

i. Douglas5 Cramblit, b. June 7, 1954, Muskegon Co,. Mi.; d. February 4, 1955, Muskegon Co. Mi..

37. ii. Daniel "Jesse" Cramblit, b. July 1955, Muskegon Co. Mi..

38. iii. Bernda Lee Cramblit, b. January 8, 1957, Muskegon Co. Mi..

iv. Kenneth Jay Cramblit, b. August 9, 1961, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

v. Kevin Charles Cramblit, b. December 4, 1958, Muskegon Co,. Mi.; d. December 10, 1958, Muskegon Co. Mi..

21. Shirley Ann4 Cramblit (Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born December 5, 1933 in Jackson, Oh.. She married Cecil Garvey March 31, 1951 in Muskegon, Mi., son of Harley Garvey and Rita McClain. He was born March 3, 1931 in Muskegon Co,. Mi..

Children of Shirley Cramblit and Cecil Garvey are:

39. i. Judy Kathleen5 Garvey, b. October 31, 1951, Muskegon Co. Mi..

40. ii. Janet Arlene Garvey, b. May 5, 1953, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

41. iii. Jimmy Wayne Garvey, b. November 30, 1955, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

Generation No. 5

22. Marsha5 Channell (Avinell4 Mapes, Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born Unknown in unknown. She married ? Spriggs Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Marsha Channell and ? Spriggs are:

i. Heather6 Spriggs, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Ashlay Spriggs, b. Unknown, unknown.

23. Pamila5 Keairnes (Majel4 Mapes, Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born Unknown in unknown. She married ? Wood Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Pamila Keairnes and ? Wood are:

i. Lynn6 Wood, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Chresta Wood, b. Unknown, unknown.

24. Tisa5 Keairnes (Majel4 Mapes, Vesta V.3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born Unknown in unknown. She married ? Meal Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Child of Tisa Keairnes and ? Meal is:

i. Benjanim6 Meal, b. Unknown, unknown.

25. Rica Ann5 Anderson (Joseph William4, Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born March 19, 1947 in unknown. She married (1) Mike Hoke Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown. She married (2) Bill Whity Sherman Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Child of Rica Anderson and Mike Hoke is:

i. Cassandra Bassie6 Hoke, b. April 8, 1975, unknown.

Children of Rica Anderson and Bill Sherman are:

ii. Bill6 Sherman, b. March 10, 1966, unknown.

iii. Andrew Sherman, b. June 27, 1967, unknown.

iv. Angle Sherman, b. April 6, 1971, unknown.

26. Bobby5 Anderson (Joseph William4, Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born Unknown in unknown. He married Patsy ? Unknown in unknown. She was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Bobby Anderson and Patsy ? are:

i. Teresa6 Anderson, b. Unknown, unknown.

ii. Troy Anderson, b. Unknown, unknown.

27. Gloria Jean5 Sibole (Betty Herriet4 Anderson, Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born December 14, 1948 in unknown. She married (1) Jim Lykins September 30, 1980 in unknown. He was born February 3, 1948 in unknown. She married (2) Joe Ferguson Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown, and died February 2, 1981 in unknown.

Children of Gloria Sibole and Jim Lykins are:

i. Scott6 Lykins, b. August 29, 1969, unknown.

ii. Jay Lykins, b. June 1, 1975, unknown.

Child of Gloria Sibole and Joe Ferguson is:

iii. John6 Ferguson, b. December 8, 1973, unknown.

28. Christian5 Andrew (Edward A.4 Anderson, Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born May 17, 1952 in unknown.

Child of Christian Andrew is:

i. Haley Nichole6 Anderson, b. February 4, 1985, unknown.

29. Andrea Denise5 Andrew (Edward A.4 Anderson, Leona Garnet3 Cramblit, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 25, 1953 in unknown. She married Ben Kennington Whetstone Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Andrea Andrew and Ben Whetstone are:

i. Ben Jr.6 Whetstone, b. December 2, 1973, unknown.

ii. Jason Michail Whetstone, b. November 7, 1976, unknown.

30. Patricia Jean5 Franklin (Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born December 15, 1943 in Flint Mi.. She married Martin Kenneth Hall July 8, 1961 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He was born May 25, 1943 in Muskegon Co. Mi..

Children of Patricia Franklin and Martin Hall are:

i. Angel Dawn6 Hall, b. July 23, 1962, Heidleburg Germany; m. Micheal Somers, April 28, 1990, Muskegon Co. Mi.; b. January 30, 1962, unknown.

42. ii. Honey Dew Hall, b. September 28, 1963, Heidleburg Germany.

iii. Martin Kenneth Jr. Hall, b. January 2, 1977, Muskegon Co. Mi..

31. Ronald Darwin5 Franklin (Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born June 7, 1947 in unknown, and died May 3, 1974 in unknown. He married Vicki Jones Unknown in Greenville Mi.. She was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Ronald Franklin and Vicki Jones are:

i. Brian6 Franklon, b. Unknown, unknown.

43. ii. Ronni Lynn Franklin, b. Unknown, unknown.

iii. Erln Dorthy Franklin, b. Unknown, unknown.

32. Barbara Dena5 Franklin (Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 14, 1952 in MUskegon Co. Mi.. She married (1) Fredrick Corey 1971 in unknown. He was born March 31, 1947 in unknown. She married (2) LeRoy Joe Davis May 18, 1981 in Greenville Mi.. He was born May 12, 1959 in Ind.

Children of Barbara Franklin and Fredrick Corey are:

i. James6 Corey, b. August 8, 1974, unknown.

44. ii. Ronda Corey, b. August 14, 1978, unknown.

33. Lela Jo5 Franklin (Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 9, 1953 in Muskegon Mi.. She married (1) Raymond Leroy Buck August 2, 1990 in Greenville, Mi.. He was born September 24, 1952 in Pawpaw, Mi.. She married (2) Robert Eugene Bennett Unknown in unknown. He was born February 16, 1950 in Ionia, Mi.. She married (3) Micheal Lynn Raby Unknown in unknown. He was born October 22, 1953 in Belding, Mi..

Children of Lela Franklin and Robert Bennett are:

i. Robert Lee6 Bennett, b. September 5, 1978, Belding, Mi..

ii. Branden Matthew Bennett, b. November 22, 1979, Kent Co. Mi..

Children of Lela Franklin and Micheal Raby are:

45. iii. Rebecca Jo6 Raby, b. December 13, 1972, Belding, Mi..

iv. Micheal Raby, b. August 28, 1974, Belding, Mi.; m. Amy Laby, July 27, 1995, Calf.; b. June 23, 1976, Plainwell, Mi..

34. Randy Jay5 Franklin (Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born December 26, 1967 in Grant Mi.. He married Trudie Whitney April 16, 1976 in Belding Mi.. She was born August 29, 1959 in Belding Mi..

Children of Randy Franklin and Trudie Whitney are:

46. i. Veronica Lynn6 Whitney, b. June 14, 1976, Belding, Mi..

ii. Randy Jay Franklin, b. April 10, 1978, Belding, Mi..

35. Mary Louise5 Cramblit (William Darwin4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born May 13, 1948 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. She married Robert Earl Moore March 3, 1967 in Kent Co. Mi., son of Charles Moore and Adeline Lane. He was born May 8, 1944 in Kent Co. Mi.

Notes for Mary Louise Cramblit:

More on the Cramblit Family in the Tree

Children of Mary Cramblit and Robert Moore are:

47. i. Tina Marie6 Moore, b. September 1, 1967, Kent Co. Mi..

48. ii. Teresa Louise Moore, b. July 13, 1970, Newaygo Co. Mi..

49. iii. Tonya Tee Moore, b. September 11, 1972, Kent Co. Mi..

36. Leon Darwin5 Cramblit (William Darwin4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born July 31, 1951 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He married (1) Sandy Nikke Johnson Unknown in Muskegon Co. Mi., daughter of Leo Sokolowski and Sandra Hough. She was born March 7, 1963 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He married (2) Donna Harker Unknown in Muskegon Co. Mi.. She was born January 29, 1952 in Muskegon Co. Mi..

Children of Leon Cramblit and Sandy Johnson are:

i. Melissa Marie6 Cramblit, b. June 27, 1984, Muskegon Co. Mi..

ii. William Donald Cramblit, b. December 30, 1986, Muskegon Co. Mi..

Child of Leon Cramblit and Donna Harker is:

iii. Heather6 Cramblit, b. February 22, 1979, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

37. Daniel "Jesse"5 Cramblit (Jesse Leroy4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born July 1955 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He married Sherry William Unknown in unknown. She was born March 23, 1955 in unknown.

Children of Daniel Cramblit and Sherry William are:

i. Kerri6 Cramblit, b. December 10, 1974, Muskegon Co. Mi..

ii. Sonya Cramblit, b. March 27, 1976, Muskegon Co. Mi..

iii. Cory Cramblit, b. April 12, 1989, Muskegon Co. Mi..

38. Bernda Lee5 Cramblit (Jesse Leroy4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born January 8, 1957 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. She married Robert White September 6, 1975 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He was born August 23, 1957 in Muskegon Co. Mi..

Children of Bernda Cramblit and Robert White are:

50. i. DeNecka6 White, b. January 21, 1976, Muskegon Co. Mi..

ii. Becky White, b. March 6, 1982, Muskegon Co. Mi..

39. Judy Kathleen5 Garvey (Shirley Ann4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born October 31, 1951 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. She married Gordon Eugene Colburn June 30, 1971 in Grand Haven Mi.. He was born May 28, 1952 in Muskegon Co. Mi..

Children of Judy Garvey and Gordon Colburn are:

51. i. Gordon Eugene6 Colburn, b. November 16, 1974, Grandhaven, Mi.

52. ii. Joseph Ronald Colburn, b. June 6, 1976, Grand Haven Mi..

53. iii. Jamie Kathleen Colburn, b. November 15, 1977, Grandhaven, Mi.

40. Janet Arlene5 Garvey (Shirley Ann4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born May 5, 1953 in Muskegon Co,. Mi.. She married Rick Alan Venne April 7, 1973 in Grand Haven Mi.. He was born July 23, 1953 in Muskegon Co,. Mi..

Children of Janet Garvey and Rick Venne are:

i. Rick Alan Jr.6 Venne, b. September 28, 1973, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

ii. Tammy Rae Venne, b. January 21, 1975, Grand Haven Mi..

41. Jimmy Wayne5 Garvey (Shirley Ann4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born November 30, 1955 in Muskegon Co,. Mi.. He married Julie Wilson February 26, 1981 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. She was born Unknown in Muskegon Co,. Mi..

Children of Jimmy Garvey and Julie Wilson are:

i. Joshua Adam6 Garvey, b. October 9, 1981, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

ii. Jennifer Lora Garvey, b. October 27, 1985, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

Generation No. 6

42. Honey Dew6 Hall (Patricia Jean5 Franklin, Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 28, 1963 in Heidleburg Germany. She married Robert Johnson August 28, 1982 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He was born March 21, 1961 in unknown.

Children of Honey Hall and Robert Johnson are:

i. Robert7 Johnson, b. January 7, 1983, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

ii. Jaime Johnson, b. November 18, 1985, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

43. Ronni Lynn6 Franklin (Ronald Darwin5, Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born Unknown in unknown. She married Charles Hall February 14, 1989 in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Child of Ronni Franklin and Charles Hall is:

i. Jerrad7 Hall, b. Unknown, unknown.

44. Ronda6 Corey (Barbara Dena5 Franklin, Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born August 14, 1978 in unknown. She married Travis Michael Clark. He was born July 20, 1979.

Children of Ronda Corey and Travis Clark are:

i. Karli Marie7 Clark, b. August 25, 1997, Carson city, Mi..

ii. Kody Michael Clark, b. May 17, 1999, Greenville, Mi..

45. Rebecca Jo6 Raby (Lela Jo5 Franklin, Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born December 13, 1972 in Belding, Mi.. She married Todd David Whipple December 30, 1991 in Charlotte, Mi.. He was born January 15, 1963 in Lansing, Mi..

Children of Rebecca Raby and Todd Whipple are:

i. David Michael7 Whipple, b. July 18, 1992, Charlotte, Mi..

ii. Jessica Harriet Harda Whipple, b. February 15, 1998, Lansing, Mi..

46. Veronica Lynn6 Whitney (Randy Jay5 Franklin, Harriet Isabel4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born June 14, 1976 in Belding, Mi.. She married Brian Scott Edwards April 28, 1995 in Stanton Mi.. He was born December 6, 1971 in Greenville Mi..

Children of Veronica Whitney and Brian Edwards are:

i. Joshua Allen7 Edwards, b. July 12, 1994, unknown.

ii. Whitney Besiree Elaine Edwards, b. April 28, 1996, unknown.

47. Tina Marie6 Moore (Mary Louise5 Cramblit, William Darwin4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 1, 1967 in Kent Co. Mi.. She married Ronald Ray Bazzett March 22, 1988 in Oak Harbor, Wa., son of Larry Bazzett and Gladys Mount. He was born June 29, 1963 in Newaygo Co. Mi..

Notes for Ronald Ray Bazzett:

More on the Bazzett Family in the Tree

Child of Tina Moore and Ronald Bazzett is:

i. Miranda Rae7 Bazzett, b. December 10, 1993, Kent Co. Mi..

48. Teresa Louise6 Moore (Mary Louise5 Cramblit, William Darwin4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born July 13, 1970 in Newaygo Co. Mi.. She married Tad Allen DesVoinges June 10, 1988 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. He was born July 10, 1966 in Kent Co. Mi..

Children of Teresa Moore and Tad DesVoinges are:

i. Tad Allen Jr.7 DesVoinges, b. June 5, 1989, unknown.

ii. Samathe DesVoinges, b. December 7, 1990, GRAND RAPIDS MI..

iii. Amaanda Anne Marie DesVoings, b. December 18, 1995, unknown.

49. Tonya Tee6 Moore (Mary Louise5 Cramblit, William Darwin4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born September 11, 1972 in Kent Co. Mi.. She married Abraham Jr. Rodiguez Unknown in Kent Co. Mi.. He was born January 9, 1966 in Newaygo Co. Mi..

Notes for Abraham Jr. Rodiguez:

More on the Rodiguez Family in the Tree

Child of Tonya Moore and Abraham Rodiguez is:

i. Jack William7 Rodiguez, b. January 11, 1994, Kent Co. Mi..

50. DeNecka6 White (Bernda Lee5 Cramblit, Jesse Leroy4, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born January 21, 1976 in Muskegon Co. Mi.. She married Edward Denhof Unknown in unknown. He was born June 2, 1972 in Muskegon Co. Mi..

Child of DeNecka White and Edward Denhof is:

i. Jocelyne Rae7 Denhof, b. August 16, 1995, Muskegon Co,. Mi..

51. Gordon Eugene6 Colburn (Judy Kathleen5 Garvey, Shirley Ann4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born November 16, 1974 in Grandhaven, Mi. He married (1) Jacqueline Amber Flowers July 18, 1997 in unknown. She was born Unknown in unknown. He married (2) Marivell Saldana Unknown in unknown. She was born February 13, 1975 in unknown. He married (3) Dawn Vandevoorde Unknown in unknown. She was born Unknown in unknown.

Child of Gordon Colburn and Jacqueline Flowers is:

i. Christopher Michael7 Colburn, b. July 1, 1998, Muskegon, Mi..

Children of Gordon Colburn and Marivell Saldana are:

ii. Mercedes Ceclia7 Colburn, b. February 12, 1993, Memphis, Tn..

iii. Elexemdro Jose Colburn, b. February 11, 1994, Muskegon, Mi..

Child of Gordon Colburn and Dawn Vandevoorde is:

iv. Zackery Joseph7 Colburn, b. July 26, 1996, Ludington, Mi..

52. Joseph Ronald6 Colburn (Judy Kathleen5 Garvey, Shirley Ann4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born June 6, 1976 in Grand Haven Mi.. He married BethAnn Bulina Unknown in unknown. She was born Unknown in unknown.

Child of Joseph Colburn and BethAnn Bulina is:

i. Kristine Nichloe7 Colburn, b. February 26, 1998, Muskegon, Mi..

53. Jamie Kathleen6 Colburn (Judy Kathleen5 Garvey, Shirley Ann4 Cramblit, Leon Darwin3, William A.2, Samuel S.1) was born November 15, 1977 in Grandhaven, Mi. She married Shiloh Guevara Unknown in unknown. He was born Unknown in unknown.

Children of Jamie Colburn and Shiloh Guevara are:

i. Caleb Daniel Colburn7 Guevara, b. April 16, 1993, Grandhaven, Mi.

ii. Savannah Maria Guevara, b. April 16, 1999, Grand Rapids, Mi.; d. May 9, 1999, unknown.

From: "Rob moore" To: "John Grace" Subject: Photos Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:41:02 -0700

Hi John I thought that you might like to see some photos of the Cramblits.... I think that one or two might be Tom Cramblit..... You can let me know what You think.... I'm putting Your people into my Family Tree, and I have had a time with it... The way it is printed out I need to look at it good before I type it in, but I'm getting there.... See Ya soon on the net Rob Moore

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Posted by: Carol Bratton Date: October 30, 2000 at 06:57:23 In Reply to: Re: MOSS family of Braymer, MO by John of 1854

Cuba, Missouri is southwest of St. Louis. We have an obit that tells that he was a general store merchent there. We think he may have had two wives. Any help would be appreciated

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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:41:32 -0700

From: dperkin@ | Block address

To: John Grace

Subject: Re: Porter genealogy

John Grace wrote:

Dorothy, some time ago you responded to a genform posting that I made concerning John and Louise (Turner) Porter.

Ok, I am sending you a genealogical report of my Porters as an attachment. I have only taken this report to 6 generations. You will find my grandparents at the end of page 10. David Brian Porter and Maude Alice Jones. My father Ralph Monroe Porter was the only child of Maude's. I may have some notes - I did not includes these. Let me know if this helps you. Dorothy

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From: "joangriffin" To: "John Grace" Subject: Clara Tulga Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:46:41 -0500

John, I was in Fort Wayne at the genealogy library this week and found out

about Clara Tulga......... Found an item in the Lima, OH paper saying that

she died in Richmond, OKlahoma 27 Feb 1986. She was the wife of Edmond

Mahoney and had 1 son & 1 daughter. Richmond is so small it isn't even on

the OK map in the atlas. I found it is in Woodward Co. I put a query on the

Genweb page for Woodward Co. Also a lady in Lima is going to find me an

index on her sister, Ruth Tulga Holman.

Will keep you posted. Joan

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LOUIS C. TULGA, CCIM, CRB

Mediation Panelist

Tulga is a commercial real estate broker and educator, having held a broker license in New Mexico since 1973. Prior to entering the real estate business, Tulga was an instructor at Ohio State University and also held professorships at the University of New Mexico, Indiana University and the University of Pennsylvania. He has also authored numerous articles and courses related to the real estate business.Tulga has completed Mediation training under the auspices of the National Association of Realtors and the Realtors Association of New Mexico. He has authored, and instructs, a course entitled "Understanding Mediation", which was approved by the New Mexico Real Estate Commission for Continuing Education credit.Tulga was an officer and director of the Albuquerque Board of Realtors and was President of the Realtors Association of New Mexico (RANM) in 1990. He has been a RANM Director since 1986, and a National Association of Realtors (NAR) Director since 1990. Tulga was the 1990 Albuquerque Board of Realtors "Realtor of the Year" and the 1993 RANM "Realtor of the Year". He also served as the 1993 Chairman of NAR's C/I (??) Committee, and is currently serving as NAR's Risk Management Chairman.Tulga has been active in Kiw???, Toastmasters and his Church Leadership. He has served as a member of the Education Steering Committee of the New Mexico Real Estate Commission, and currently serves on the Commission's Agency Task Force. He also co-authored its "Mandatory Course".Tulga has a degree in History from Wheaton College in Illinois and a Ph.D. in History from Ohio State University. He has been a certified Instructor for GRI and numerous other courses approved for Legal Liability in Real Estate. He is currently serving as the Professional Standards Chairman for RANM.

Tulga holds the advanced designations of CCIM (Certified Commercial Investment Member) and CRB (Certified Broker Manager).

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New Testament Baptist & The Nature of the Church by Chester E. Tulga In 1960, Dr. Chester E. Tulga wrote a book called, "New Testament Baptist and the Nature of the Church". This book discusses, from a Landmark perspective, the history and development of various ecclesiological theories, with a primary emphasis on the strict, local-only interpretation.

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ROSS Bobby K. Ross, age 70 of Waverly, Ohio died Sunday, August 8, 1999 at Adena Regional Medical Center, in Chillicothe, OH. He was a retired Secretary/Treasurer of Meatcutters Union #346, in Columbus. He is preceded in death by father Dempsey Ross and mother Talma (Fitzpatrick) Ross; son, Michael Ross; brother, Wayne Ross. He is survived by his wife of 44 years, Phyllis Ann (Black) Ross; son, Mark (Tamara) Ross; brother, Frank (Rosemary) Ross; 2 sisters, Isabelle (John) Henson, and Betty (Paul) Tulga. He was a member of Masonic Lodge #30 F.&A.M., Columbus, OH, V.F.W., Labelle, Fla, American Legion, Labelle, Fla, David Road Church of Christ, and Veteran of U.S. Army, served during the Korean Conflict. Funeral service will be at the Waverly Church of Christ, 10 am Wednesday, August 11, 1999 with Minister Tim Peek officiating. Friends may call Tues. 4-8 pm at the Waverly Church of Christ, and Wed. 9 am until time of service. Interment, Kingwood Memorial Park, Worthington, Ohio. Arrangements by BOYER FUNERAL HOME, INC., Waverly, Ohio.

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From: "joangriffin" Add To Address Book Add To Junk Mail Blocker List

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Fw: Obits

Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:44:07 -0500

----- Original Message -----

From: Kathleen Ruhlen

To:

Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:34 PM

Subject: Obits

> Hi Joan,

>

> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Things have been somewhat hectic at my house in the past few days. I went to the library today & found the obits you were looking for. Ruth Edna Holman born 8/18/1900 in Ironton, the daughter of J.H. and Catherine Louise Schmitt Tulga. She married Arthur Holman, who died in 1933. Survived by one son, Ronald L. Holman of Lafayette; three daughters, Mrs. Patricia Kessen of Maumee, Mrs. Phillip (Arlette) Grimer of Clearwater, Fla., and Mrs. Christiane Russell of Margate, Fla., onesister, Margaret Tulga of Lima. Burial at Fisher Cemetery, Lafayette.

>

> Margaret A. Tulga was born 10/5/1898 in Ironton, the daughter of John Harmon & Catherine Louise Schmitt Tulga. Survived by several nieces & nephews. Buried at Memorial Park Cemetery. Both ladies attended Zion Luthern Church, the chruch were I grew up. If you will send me your address I will get these in the mail to you. Kathleen

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) | Block address

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:12:00 -0600 (CST)

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Campbells & Zornes

Hi John,

Long time since I've written. Got busy at work for a month and thenwent to Cincinnati for a month. That is where I am from originally.Went to visit my sisters. Took all my genealogy records with me and thebus company lost my luggage. I was really up in arms about that. Butone of my sisters wanted copies of all I had and when I got there I hadnothing. But it finally showed up 10 days later and I was able to giveher copies of what I have. That's when I realized that we had nevergotten around to the Campbell and Zornes information. I keep gettingconflicting info on genforum and other web sites. So I figured you'rethe man to get in touch with. I can't remember if I sent you my

addressthe last time so here it is again.

Joan KuyKendall

1616 Allison Ave #1

Panama City Beach, FL 32407

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From: "Eddie L. Shearer" | Block address

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Zornes Book

Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:44:30 -0500

John,

In case you are not aware, there is a book containing much information on our Campbells, and Zornes lines . The book is titled Zornes Family History. With allied families Borden, Burrell, Campbell, Decker, Dummitt, Duncan, Gilbert, James, Llewellyn, McCleese, Moore, Oldacre/Oldaker and Smith. I have a copy if you would like look-ups. I can give you an email address if you'd like to get a copy.

Eddie Researching Allen, Campbell, Colley, Henson ,Kouns, Shearer , Virgin and related families

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From: "Gerry Hubacka"

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: Please forward this

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:52:25 -0700

Thanks John! Geocities must be having problems, but I was able to get to my page with this address:



Just for future reference! Gerry

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From: SwimBails@ | Block address

Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:32:29 EST

Subject: Tulga

To: jwgrace99@

Add Addresses

First Name Last Name Address 1 Address 2 City State Zip

Zip+4

Phone

BRIAN TULGA 8000 MONTGOMERY BLVD NE † ALBUQUERQUE NM 87109

1600

(505) 275-4706

CHARLES TULGA † † NEWPORT BEACH CA 92660 0000 (949)

675-9311

G C TULGA 4972 HILLRIDGE WAY † FAIR OAKS CA 95628 4243

(916)

961-0223

GEORGE TULGA 339 FOREST AVE † JAMESTOWN NY 14701 7905

(716)

488-0447

GERALD E TULGA 1041 CAPRI ISLE BLVD † VENICE FL 34292

1518

(941) 488-5397

GERALD E TULGA 367 RETREAT LN † MARYSVILLE OH 43040 9619

(937)

642-2949

JONATHAN G TULGA 4619 N TIERRA ALTA DR † TUCSON AZ 85749

9499

(520) 749-5631

JOSEF TULGA 1710 FAWNBROOK CT † REYNOLDSBURG OH 43068

8115

(614) 861-0469

KUTLU TULGA 5440 CASS AVE † DETROIT MI 48202 3668 (313)

832-4686

KUTLU TULGA 38 N UNION ST † LAMBERTVILLE NJ 08530 1735

(609)

397-5050

L C TULGA 10600 CIELITO LINDO NE † ALBUQUERQUE NM 87111 3840

(505)

271-0137

LOUIS C TULGA 10600 CIELITO LINDO NE † ALBUQUERQUE NM 87111

3840

(505) 299-8375

M K TULGA 462 BEACON ST † BOSTON MA 02115 1011 (617)

266-0894

PAUL L TULGA 5560 REDWOOD RD † COLUMBUS OH 43229 4410

(614)

846-3195

UMUT TULGA 3 SEWALL ST † BOSTON MA 02120 2906 (617)

541-8145

California Deaths, 1940-97

Combined Matches: 2

Surname Given Name Middle Name Sex Birth Date Death Date Birth Place

Death

Place Social Security # Mother's Maiden Name Father's Surname

TULGA ORVILLE LEE MALE 10/29/1901 01/15/1950 OHIO LOS ANGELES

0

TULGA

TULGA HELEN CAROLINE FEMALE 05/16/1906 04/18/1989 CALIFORNIA

LOS

ANGELES 548460721 SAMPSON

Full Context of Ohio Deaths, 1958-69

Combined Matches:

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Certificate Number: 75448

Volume Number: 16688

Sex: Male

Race: White

Name: TULGA, JOHN H

County of Death: Allen County

City of Death: Lima

County of Residence: Allen County

City of Residence: Lima

Date of Death: November 01, 1961

Age of Death: 86 Years

Marital Status: Married

Full Context of Ohio Deaths, 1958-69

Combined Matches:

Previous Page Next Page

Certificate Number: 24014

Volume Number: 17630

Sex: Female

Race: White

Name: TULGA, CATHERI L [name could be Catherina]

County of Death: Allen County

City of Death: Lima

County of Residence: Allen County

City of Residence: Lima

Date of Death: April 22, 1964

Age of Death: 93 Years

Marital Status: Widowed

Full Context of Ohio Deaths, 1989-91

Combined Matches:

Previous Page Next Page

Certificate Number: 27941

Volume Number: 092033

First Name: ALBERT

Middle Name: CHARLES

Last Name: TULGA

Sex: Male

Month of Death: December

Day of Death: 13

Year of Death: 1989

Month of Birth: February

Day of Birth: 18

Year of Birth: 1903

Fathers Surname: TULGA

Time of Death: 10:30 pm

Age: 86 Years

State of Birth: Ohio

Marital Status: Widowed

State of Residence: Ohio

Hispanic: Non-Hispanic

Race: White

Education: 1 Year College

State of Death:

Social Security Number: 279205889

1910 Census Miracode Index

Combined Matches: 5

State County Enumeration District Name Relation Color Age

Birth

Place ImageNum Visit Relatives

Ohio Franklin, Columbus 0046 John William Clarke Husband W 39

Ohio

00640447 0174 Daughter Eva Christina 15, Ohio

Son John William J 13, Ohio

Son Leslie 07, Kentucky

SIL Emma J Tulga 37, Ohio

Ohio Franklin, Columbus 0046 Emma J Tulga SIL W 37 Ohio

03680387 0174 Husband John William Clarke (W)

Ohio Lawrence 0102 Harmon Tulga Husband W 35 Ohio

03680399

0220 Wife Catherine 39, Ohio

Daughter Margaret 11, Ohio

Daughter Ruth 09, Ohio

Daughter Clara 03, Ohio

Ohio Franklin, Columbus 0024 Stephen H Tulga Husband W 42

Ohio

03680443 0288 Wife Sarah L 41, Ohio

Son William L 20, Ohio

Ohio Lawrence, Ironton City 0105 William C Tulga Husband W 38

Ohio

03680450 0294 Wife Mary E 28, Ohio

Son Chester E 14, Ohio

Son Arthur B 08, Ohio

Daughter Garnet N 05, Ohio

Daughter Mary E 03, Ohio

Pennsylvania 1910 Census Miracode Index

Combined Matches: 2

Mike Suba State: PA Enumeration District: 0107

Color: W;W Age: 19

Birth Place: Austria Visit: 0262

County: Luzerne, Plymouth

Relation: Boarder

ImageNum: 04030512

Other Residents: Husband Andrew Tulga

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Andrew Tulga State: PA Enumeration District: 0107

Color: W Age: 36

Birth Place: Austria Visit: 0262

County: Luzerne, Plymouth

Relation: Husband

ImageNum: 04670572

Other Residents: Wife Estella 20, Austria

1 non-relative

-Dear jwgrace99@, this information was copied somewhat

illegaly

for you from So please forget that I sent it to

you.-

I hope it helps some. You will want to have a look at the website

free

information on family trees--I think there were 1604 of them for Tulga

(if I

am not confusing that name with another) again,

Good luck in your search,

Jean

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From: DeanHickmn@ | Block address

Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:32:56 EST

Subject: Fwd: Plat Maps

To: Dovelion@

CC: royjlynch@postoffice.worldnet., ann_hinton@, prswigert@

Add Addresses

Plat maps from 1875 Atlas on Jackson County site.

e-mail address from Margaret Sabisch enclosed.

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:07:31 -0500

From: kitty

To: Dean , Tom

Subject: Plat Maps

Plat Maps on line at Jackson site - look at Liberty west shows Eliz

McLaughlin and some of Downards lands.

~ohjackso/twpmaps.htm

Kitty

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From: Georg31226@ | Block address

Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:19:18 EDT

Subject: Follow-up

To: jwgrace99@

Hi John!

I am getting you a copy of the Ross Book done at Kinko's. Supposed to

be 126

pages for about $10.

Really enjoyed your e-mail

I was rereading what Uncle Allen told me about John Nelson Ross's.

Uncle

Allen spent lots of time visiting back up in Kentucky after Robert

Johnson

"Bob" Ross brought his family to B'ham.

Uncle Allen said the father of John Nelson Ross was buried in Ross

Chapel

Cemetery, near John Nelson but without a headstone. He said his name

was John

Ross and that he had come to KY because of a Revolutionary War land

grant ---

anybody checked out that angle???

Uncle Allen could spout off names and dates like crazy - like my great

aunt

Carries Middleton Pitts! I was always a little suspicious of that as I

don't

have that ability and as time goes bye bye, so does my memory!!! But

when I

got back into the Kentucky records, I was amazed at how accurate Uncle

Allen's memory was.

I will have to check out the Bunt - Harlan connection in my

records...don't

know why I said it that way!

Uncle Elige's son, George Randolph Ross is smart as a wip. He was the

youngest Captain of Delta Airlines, and very well off. After his

ex-wife

died, he married my Greek aunt who was related to me by marriage. They

live

outside Atlanta. He had one child by his first wife. She and his mother

in

law ran him off. The son by that marriage, Robert Johnson "Bobby" Ross

teaches computer science in a South Carolina university, is married

with two

young daughters. We have corresponded but not really met.

We used to play with Jimmy grey and Suzanne. Their mother was rather

indifferent to them and they always came straight to our house for the

entire

visit. Suzanne was a sweet sweet child who married and lived in

Atlanta,

seeing her step father only occasionally. Jimmy Grey, our age later

went to

France to study art in Paris, and Uncle George refused to support him

any

longer. When inquires were made of Uncle George concerning this child,

he

said that Jimmy was a hippy and he did not know where he was now. Uncle

George was too ridged to make a good parent and he never gave them any

allowance. The kids had to sell things they had made door to door for

any

spending money they had.

What started me on this tirade???? I know nothing of his real father,

except

he had the good sense to divorce their mother, who was very good

looking and

worked in a jewelry store, from which she got her expensive tastes! I

miss

Jimmy Grey, they were both very sweet, very descent, people and I

enjoyed

playing with him.

More to follow later

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) | Block address

Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:00:23 -0600 (CST)

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Webshots Community - Patti Campbell Ignace

John, here is Patti's page. Talk to you later.

Joan



From: "Patti Ignace" |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Re: T. J. Campbell genealogy Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:59:36

Dear John I have my picures posted on just enter campbell in the search box. I have word also I have office 97 to be exact. I would love to see you pictures. My father (Willis Thomas Campbell) is T.J.'s great grandson through his father Verna Wilson Campbell, he is the son of Willis Henry Campbell, son of TJ Campbell through his last Marriage which was Sarah Johnson Campbell. Nice to meet family Patti Campbell

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) | Block address

Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:40:07 -0600 (CST)

To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace)

Subject: Re: Campbell/Zornes

John, Thanks for getting back to me. I really appreciate all the time and effort. Patti's g grandmother is Dicie Tackett. Patti is reallyinto Campbells. Her maiden name is Campbell. Did i send you her

webshot page? Sorry I can't remember. I will resend it because she has some Campbells on it. Her daddy is petpet1@ I know she would love to hear from you. Her g grandmother , Dicie , and my grandfather, Thomas Henry, were brother and sister. That is how we are related. Can't wait to get the infor.

Have a good Thanksgiving Day. Your Cuz ......Joan

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:42:43 -0500

To: jwgrace99@

From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." | Block address

Hi, John!

It's good to hear from you again. I notice you have a new e-mail addressnow. Sorry you didn't connect with us while you were in Ohio in August,but I know how time flies and that you needed to be in Columbus a goodwhile. Johnny naturally likes to be with his cousins. You won't interesthim right now in genealogy!

This was a hectic summer for us. We had about 30 family members togetherfor a 90th birthday party for my aunt in Portsmouth June ll. She's thelast one of my Dad's siblings. She's a widow and never had children.Then, she needed cataract surgery, and I spent a lot of time with her inher Portsmouth apartment while she recuperated. We spent a week in Augustat my sister's near Pittsburgh, and then the rest of August was repletewith family reunions in Kentucky. I've found nothing new on any of mysurnames, however. We were in Texas the first 2 weeks of October visitingour son John and family near Houston. While there, I went to my oncologistat the M. D. Anderson Cancer hospital there. He told me the twoanti-cancer pills I now take are about the best line of treatment beinggiven now for ovarian. Mine is metastatic throughout the peritoneum now,with 5 lymph nodes involved. Although there is no pain or discomfort yet,the situation sometimes does a number on my head with bouts of depression,which I try to overcome. I try to keep busy and enjoy my children and llgrandchildren. Keeping up with their activities is a full-time job.

Bob is doing well - he's still playing golf when the weather permits andkeeping up with yard work and little 'fix-it' jobs at the kids' houses andaround here.For our 49th wedding anniversary April 28, we went to Las Vegas! Quiteunlike us with our plain lifestyle! He actually has an old Navy buddy wholives in Henderson (12 miles from Vegas), and we stayed with them whileseeing Sin City. I'd rather have spent my time and money visiting theNational Archives.

Next April 28 is our Golden Wedding anniversary, and, health permitting, wetold the kids we want "the whole nine yards" in the celebration.

Glad you found your Ross descendent, as well as more Cline, Rice, andSparks information. Those old photos we get are treasures - I know!I think the Grizzell information is hard to extract out of Kentucky,

forsome reason. I'm glad I was able to get photos of my great Aunt Ebie for you.Well, I guess that's it for now. I hope you an Johnny have a goodThanksgiving and a wonderful holiday season. When you're back inAppalachia again, let us know if you're in our area. (740-533-2276)

Nancy and Bob

P.S. I saw in the directory of members of our church here (First UnitedMethodist) that there is a woman by the name of TULGA. Since there is nonein the phone book, it could be she has located elsewhere some time ago orsomething like that. I'll ask around of some church members.

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:40:41 -0500

To: jwgrace99@

From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." | Block address

Subject: A Break for You!

Add Addresses

Dear John,

I asked around in church this morning and learned that Marie Tulga is

still

living and is in our local JO-LIN HEALTH CENTER (Room 205), l0th &

Clinton

Sts., Ironton, OH 45638 (Phone:740-532-6096).

I also found out in church this morning that Raymond used to play the

pipe

organ in our First United Methodist Church here and that Marie had been asecretary/bookkeeper somewhere around here. They married later in life,I'm told, which is why there were no children apparently.

After church I went straight there to see Marie and took 3 photos of her.She was asleep for 2 photos (sort of curled into a fetal position), but Iroused her enough for her to open her eyes for the 3rd photo. She lookslike a short lady, maybe in her late 80's. They were in quarantine in herwing, due to the flu, so I wasn't permitted to stay long; however, I'mgoing back this week. Although they told me in church she could not seenor hear, the nurse at the rest home said she could see and could answer"yes" or "no" to questions. I'm sure when I go back I'll get a bettersnapshot.I asked at the nursing station who the local contact person was for Marie,if any, and she gave me 2 names nearby in South Point (about 7 miles eastof Ironton on Rt. 52):

Marie's cousin, Margaret McKee, 213 Solida Road, South Point, OH 45680 (Phone: 740-377-4414) and Margaret McKee's daughter, Nancy McKee, of the same South

Point community (Nancy's phone: 740-377-2926)

By the looks of Marie's folder at the nursing station (very thick), she'sbeen there for quite some time.I'm phoning Margaret and Nancy in a few minutes to try to find out more

andpave the way for you in case you try to contact them.Let's hope this is somewhat of a break for you - there may be family photosto be copied up there at South Point - I'm sure they would let me do

it.Yes, Joe Crance lives just across the street from us - he's a dear person.He called me over there July 4 to pick up his wife who'd fallen (he'd justhad lung surgery). She'd had a massive clot in her brain and died thatday, and we were unprepared for it.Take care, hi to Johnny, and send some questions to me you might want Marieor the McKees to answer. Will do my best. Bob says Hi, and, yes, the

downward turn on the markets is making a "Blue Christmas" for us.(You're probably too young to remember that old song!)As ever,Nancy and Bob

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:55:18 -0500 To: jwgrace99@ From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." Subject: just phoned both women

John, don't waste your time phoning Margaret McKee (she's 83 and couldhardly hear nor give me much help regarding Marie Tulga). I did, however,find out a little more by phoning her daughter, Nancy McKee. Nancy worksmornings but told me to phone her again later next week and in the meantimeshe would go over to her mother Margaret's house and get a box of Marie'sthings that she (Nancy) and I might look into. I might possibly find aphoto or two.At least when I first talked to Margaret, I got out of her that Marie'sbeen in the nursing home nearly l0 years and she's in her 90's now. Shemanaged to tell me that when Marie went into the nursing home Marie tore upmany pictures and threw them away. Why they do this I don't know.This is what I learned from Nancy McKee (Margaret's daughter): Marie

andRaymond lived VERY near Bob and me in this subdivision. Marie loved catsso much that when one died, she had it embalmed, Nancy said. Nancy thinksMarie's maiden name was Frecka, and that Marie had a brother, Wilbert, wholived out west, but later moved back here, where he's buried along withRaymond Tulga in Woodland Cemetery here. I'll try to get to the libraryhere around Wed. or Thurs. next week and look up Raymond's obit (Nancythinks he died about 25 years ago and thinks the obit had his photo).Nancy told me Marie worked in the office of Ironton High School here.

Shealso told me her mother Margaret McKee and Marie were probably not firstcousins, but rather 2nd or 3rd. She said Margaret McKee's maiden name wasRutledge. Margaret and Marie somehow tie in to the Sherman name inestablishing their relationship, Nancy thinks. Most assuredly, then, theyare probably 2nd or 3rd cousins somehow.Margaret Rutledge McKee was only 13 when her mother died, so Nancy

McKeenever knew her grandmother, _____Sherman McKee.Nancy said years ago Marie would pick up Margaret McKee and they'd goshopping and out to eat a lot - pretty good chums for many years.

Anyhow, let me do some sleuthing next week, call and/or meet with NancyMcKee, and then maybe I can pick up some more information for you. In themeantime, send me any questions you want me to ask Nancy (or Marie, ifshe's lucid enough when I go back to the nursing home to get a better photo).More later,Nancy

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Subject: Ephraim Boring, Margaret S. Willis offspring To: prswigert@ CC: ann_hinton@, jwgrace99@, concho@ From: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us |

Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:35:14 -0500

Last night, I looked at my Jackson county Jackson Township births and foundtwo children for this marriage:Elisha S. Boring and Joseph Stillman Boring. I will send the birth datesfrom home.After this week, my genealogy library essentially moves out of easy reach.

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Subject: Re: Harrison Martin To: John Grace From: tamartin@ | Block address Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:04:00 -0500

Thanks for replying, i will call as soon as possible. I am from Jackson,County Ohio and I currently live in Point Pleasant, WV. My fathersgrandfather was Albert. In the earlier censuses Albert was listed as AlbertSmith when he was 3 and again when he was 13, then at 23 he was listed as aMartin. Albert spent some time in prison and the prison records listed himmother as Susan Price. I'm having trouble finding information about her.I'm not sure what her maiden name was but it looks like she picked up theprice name in Indiana.

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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 23:00:22 -0500

To: jwgrace99@

From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." | Block address

Subject: A bit more on Marie

Hi, John -

I'll have to get back to the nursing home early next week - didn't make itback this week (where DOES time go?) I did, however, talk again thisafternoon with Nancy McKee. She had gone to her Mother's house and lookedthrough the box of Marie's papers. Since she didn't encourage me to do itwith her, I didn't insist. Nancy works mornings in some office, so Irealize her time is limited. Maybe when you're here next, we can get Nancyto let us look through the box. I'm calling you Marie's "step-nephew" toNancy. Do you think Raymond was your stepfather's brother?Anyhow, these are some additional things she told me (as gleaned fromMarie's box of papers. (*I think this box contains mostly real estatepapers, pre-planned funeral arrangements, and Marie's and Raymond'smarriage license - I could get that up at the courthouse just as well.)Nancy said Marie was born July 13, l908 (not sure, but probably in Ironton- I'll check that, too). She was the daughter of Henry Frecka and Sylvia________. Nancy says a paper shows Marie entered the nursing home hereFeb. 28, l996 (she thought Marie had been in there longer than 4 years).She said Marie and Raymond lived here in Ironton at l6ll Thomas St. (that'sjust around the corner from us, down 2 blocks or less.She said just before Marie went into the nursing home, she was renting fromone of her relatives here, Bill Sheridan (our former mayor).Since Raymond played the pipe organ in my United Meth. church here, Nancysays apparently Marie transferred her membership to this one from a(probably Methodist) church in Ashland, KY (maybe when they married?)Marie and Raymond were married April 30, l944 in the Methodist church here(probably First U.M., yet there are 5 Methodist churches here).I think you said you had Raymond's obit (Nancy can't find her copy but saysshe thinks he died June, July, Aug. l970.Marie's funeral is pre-planned and pre-paid (usually done in this area whenone enters a nursing home).Nancy has only heard of one sibling of Marie's - Wilbert, who lived quite awhile in Las Vegas but returned to Ironton in later years, was cremated andburied beside Henry and Sylvia up in Woodland Cem. here.Nancy says Marie's plans call for no visitation, and Phillips Funeral Homehere will be in charge. Raymond must be buried here also.She mentioned a Juanita Kuhn or Kuehne locally who was a great friend ofMarie's. There are 5 or so of them in the phone book here - I'll trycalling for a "Juanita," if she's still living.Anyhow, there were no photos at all in the box, Nancy said. Such a shame.She also told me what her Mother said to me last week - that Marie cut upand threw away all her photos before going into the nursing home.Since Marie worked at Ironton High School as a secretary/bookkeeper foryears, I thought they'd let me see some old l930-l940 yearbooks up at thehigh school and maybe I'd find her in a younger photo.Witnesses for Raymond's and Marie's wedding were Rosemary E. Burnette andCharles E. Morrison (there's a man by this name in the choir of our church,but he's only about 75 or 77; however, I'm going to ask him if he's the one(may have been his Dad who stood up with Marie & Raymond).Other than looking in the high school yearbook, I think I can get a copy ofMarie's and Raymond's marr. lic. and also look for the obits of HenryFrecka and Sylvia ________Frecka. I could get their death dates from thecemetery up here or just get them from our library here.Wish I'd found out more for you. I'll still try for a better snapshot ofMarie up at the nsg. home next week.I hope Marie lives until you can come to see her, but she's very frail.Looks as if the l900 and l9l0 censuses would give something on Henry andSylvia's children. The l920 might also.More later...Nancy

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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:52:08 -0500

To: jwgrace99@

From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." | Block address

Subject: Raymond's father and grandfather

John,

Do you suppose Raymond's father and grandfather died in this area? Maybean estate settlement or a will is available if that's the case. Do youknow their first names?I wonder if the older Tulgas were first in VA, PA, or KY. I find that theold l800-1815 settlers of Scioto and Lawrence counties here mostly camefrom VA to KY to OH or from PA down the Ohio River on flatboats to thesetwo counties, or farther down the Ohio River to Maysville (then calledLimestone).We won't give up, but we should just keep watching for more clues. Maybethe old History of Lawrence Co. OH has an entry for them (I'll see - Idon't have a copy but will check with our library friends here.)John, I just phoned Jeanne and Charles E. Morrison (they are members of ourchurch here). I recall one of the witnesses (best man) to Marie's andRaymond's marriage was a "Charles E. Morrison" (I thought in l944 this mustbe the father of the man in our church (he's about 77), but it actually WASthis Charles who was best man). Charles was about 22 when he was best

man(Raymond and Marie being in later 30's, or nearly 40 when they married).Jeanne and Charles told me this while ago: "Charles Morrison and Raymondwere close friends because Raymond's parents had died rather close togetherand Raymond was a bachelor, so he took Charles in as a boarder andcompanion/friend. In spite of the age difference, they became very goodfriends, and that's why Charles was best man at Raymond's and Marie'swedding. Raymond was an only child, and he had an Aunt Sophie Zimmermanwho was very close to him - even lived a while with him and Marie. Mariewas more or less raised by her aunt and uncle (Joe Falter). EvidentlyMarie's parents died when she was rather young too.Raymond and Marie took in Joe Falter and wife for a while in Falters' lateryears where Raymond's parents' big house was on Park Avenue, Ironton. Theyalso kept his Aunt Sophie Zimmerman for a while. Raymond and Aunt SophieZimmerman had some family who lived at Sea Shoals, FL."

The above information from Jeanne and Charles Morrison seems to illustratewhat big hearts Raymond and Marie had toward elder family members. I don'tknow if the Tulga family had wealth or treasures, but when the line pansout and no children were born, valuable items or treasured photos go by thewayside. Maybe this is why Marie destroyed her photos (to our dismay).This happened to me in Ironton with my MOORE family - invaluable familyphotos were burned in a backyard barrell when the last descendant was 12years old. John MOORE here was the link to my MOORE immigrant fromBelfast, IRL, and he was well versed in the lineage, even back to the ruinsof an Irish castle, but the Ironton MOOREs would not share information withus Scioto Co. MOOREs. He thus took his knowledge to his grave, to mydismay. It's a hard name to research anyway! :( I guess that's what keepsus genealogists going - hope for a breakthrough.I told Jeanne and Charles if they think of anything else about Raymond andMarie to tell me in church tomorrow. Speaking of tomorrow, I'd better ringoff - we have 2 granddaughters, one 6 and one 8, spending the night, and Irun out of energy long before they do!Talk to you later, and "Hi" to Johnny.

Nancy

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From: "joangriffin" To: Subject: Tulgas Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:04:59 -0400

John, I thought I sent you my FTM file on the Tulga's but if I didn't I will send them to you. Let me know. At the end of the month I mam going to the genealogy library in Fort Wayne for 2 days with some friends. I am going to see if I can find so more on the Tulga's of Lima. I have never been there before but I hear it is good. Joan

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To: "John Grace"

Subject: Tulgas

Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:52:46 -0500

John, Got copies today of John Harmon Tulga and his wife, Katherine SchmittTulga. I will zerox them and send them to you. Nothing new and startling inthem. But one is from 1961 and the other from 1964 and both have Mrs. ClaraMahoney living in Tulsa at the time. I would not be surprised if her husbandworked for the oil company.

I leave sun for Germany so don't know if I will be able to get these zeroxedbefore as I will be busy all day tomorow.

Joan

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From: CHLOHA@ | Block address

Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:11:13 EST

Subject: Cherry`s father

To: jwgrace99@

Dear John, I know very little of my father`s parents. They both died about 1932 when I was 6 and since I lived in Akron,Ohio and they in Chelsea, Michigan I saw very little of them. My father, Clair Goodyear Hoover was born in Chelsea on January 9, l892 and died October l966 in Akron, Ohio. He was the only child of Orrin Tichenor Hoover and Mary Goodyear Hoover( my mother told me once that she had been adopted but at that time I didn`t ask more), My father left the family bible in the attic of a home when my parents moved . He refused to buy a house and they rented until about l938 when he decided it was a good idea to own a home. He graduated from the University of Michigan in about 1913 wiith a degree in Marine Engineering. Hw went to work for a shipbuilding company in Newport News, Va. and it wasn`t until he took his first sea voyage that he found himself seasick and got a

job designing tires and ended up in Akron as head of the farm tire development dept. for Firestone. Harvey Firestone and Henry Ford had him meet them at theFirestone family farm and always served chicken. He later was the executive secretary of the Tire and Rim Assn. He was an inventor but I don`t know if any of his inventions sold. While at Firestone he designed a tractor tire that Firestone sold for years and for which he got $l.00 since it was his job. The other rubber companies copied it too. Both he and his father were 6 feet tall. My grandfather was stocky but my dad wasn`t. They both has diabetes. I was told that my father had red hair as a child and it turned black later . His mother dressed him in Little Lord Fauntleroy suits and had his hair in long curls. I will go through pictures( only have a few) at a later time and will get info on my Mother`s family. Love Cherry -- PS. Have a nice Christmas and I will get back to you in January .

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sorry for the legth of time it has taken me to respond to your querry, I did not have anyting on those listed in you querry. I do have a little it is not much. Savatore Jennette, was born Dec 21, 1902 and died in March 13, 1992. Now I only have one that fits your request and he is not in my data-base. Came accross both of these when I was browsing the SS-Death-index while looking up some 1850-1920 relatives. Carl Jennetta was born May 24, 1887 and died in March of 1977 in Massachusetts. around the same town you mentioned "Michelle Bell"

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To: jwgrace99@

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:30:41 -0500

Subject: Re: Old photo

From: cfdozer@ | Block address

Thanks John, for sending me the note about the old photo of yourgrandmother Talma Ross. I remember Talma (if this is the same person)back in the 40's when the "quilting bee" ladies would get together at

different homes each month and quilt together. I am sure yourgrandmother is the one that was there. Was she married to Dempsey Rossin around Jackson? My mother would take me with her when the ladies

would quilt and have lunch together. There would be my mother, Myrtle(Terry) Martin, Anise Leasure, Mary Brohard, Margaret Brohard, mygrandmother, Grace Terry and others. Is there a chance you could send a picture over the internet to me? It is hard to believe that Christmas is so near. We will be having awhite Christmas this year and also having cold weather. It is down inthe teens now. Brrrrrrrr.I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Bonnie

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To: jwgrace99@

Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:05:15 -0500

Subject: Re: Old photo

From: cfdozer@ | Block address

John, you are so fortunate to get Talma's old pictures. My mother passedaway in 1958, to me she was young at 49 years. She had some oldpictures, and my brother (Louis) that bought the home place from my

father, got everything, I mean everything. I was sure that since I wasthe only girl in the family that my father would allow me to get somethings that I would of appreciated maybe more than my brother. Dad soldhim the house and all the furnishings inside. So, about two years ago,my sister-in-law allowed me to go through the pictures and the one albumthat I remembered, also a scrap book that mother had put together, andshe said that I could go through them and take what I wanted. I wentthrough them and then I showed her what pictures that I had picked outand she ok'd it. I wanted her to know what pictures I was taking. Mysister-in-law is an odd person. She gave me a pink dish that Iremembered that mother had, so I really feel honored that she allowed meto have them. My aunt gave me some old pictures that belonged to my grandmother'ssister. This would be on the Speakman side of my family. So, I reallycherish these pictures now, my daughters may never unless as they getolder will want them when I am through with them. I have put names onthe back of the pictures, but the people are so old in the pictures Idoubt that my daughters will remember who or how they are related tothem. I hope one of the girls will take up their mother's interest ingenealogy and will continue where I leave off.Thanks for writing, I will try to keep in touch as time goes on. I wouldlove to have a picture of Talma & Dempsey if you have one of themtogether, like back in the late 40's. Or one of Talma would beappreciated.I will sign off now and go to bed.Have a nice Holiday.Bonnie

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From: "Willette Smith"

To:

Subject: John bunyan

Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:44:15 -0800

"Aloha" John; Thanks for your reply, it took some arm-chair-travel to get to your posts. I find this particular project so interesting. Have you tried locating the Baptist Church Pastor (Howard V. Pendley 111) in BEDFORD,Va. who wrote the Article about John Bunyan. I understand he is still alive, and has a Son. There is a Web page, but I have not been able to find it yet. I have not read the "Pilgrams Progress" Bunyan wrote while in the Bedford prison, but it's quite famous, and, a thought occured to me that being in Va. and of that Church ,Pat Robinson (or Robertson?) the one who had a TV.program,may be of some assistance to you. Church records, and for such a famous person as J,Bunyan0often do have more info. on their family. I know what you mean though about immigrating records. I retained a firm in Kent,Cantebury,England who had done a study 40 yrs. ago for Breedlove(with very little info. to go on then) so, places,dates, are very important to get success. Yet I'm wondering if I should not have retained someone in BEDFORD, England? My Thomas Breedlove seemed to just dissapear after 1675 there. Almost all our genealogy researchers depend on that first or earliest immigrant to America from the UK. It has already been established Breedloves were in Va. before 1708,but that is the first recorded date for him as a witness(deeds) Yes, I live on the Big Island, for 21 yrs. now. 10 yrs in Kona, and now going on 12 in Ka'u. We had great weather all year, now it's getting too warm..another day in paradise. Keep in touch, maybe I'll find out more on your Wm. Brown?? Regards, Willette

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From: CarolW7673@ |Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:42:14 EST Subject: Re: SPECKMANN To: jwgrace99@

John, Thanks for your letter. I think I have seen the Tulga name mentioned in something I have, even tho I don't currently show it in my Family Tree Maker database. But that's the name that caught my eye when reading your post. I wish I could find an obituary on my great-grandfather George Speckman, Anna's brother, but so far no luck. He died at the age of 40 in Metropolis. I'll definitely put you on my list tho, for the Speckmann information I do have, if you're interested. I'm making up packets to send to relatives, and still need to make copies of pictures, etc. That's very interesting about the Tulga name in ronton. I'll have to forward your letter on to my dad. Though he didn't know his grandfather George...George died in 1890 and my dad wasn't born till 1922. Have you researched your Grace family? We know quite a few Grace's in Metropolis, IL. Talk to you soon...keep in touch, Carol/Moorpark,CA

From: CarolW7673@ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:25:48 EST Subject: re:SPECKMANN To: jwgrace99@

Hi John, I just saw your post about Anna Speckman on the Genforum message board. Your Anna appears to be the sister of my great-grandfather George Speckmann. I have all the information you need about this family, thanks to the research of Sharon Bramkamp Hohmann, and others. I am a Speckman...George, who was born in 1850, and his family, came from KY to IN, then to Southern Illinois, settling in Massac Co. My father is Ray Speckman, grandson of George, and my dad was born and raised in Metropolis. I have been visiting there since I was born...the gravesite of Henry Speckmann is there..I have pictures. I have found out so much information lately about this family. I am currently putting it altogether and when I'm done, would be glad to forward it to you. Henry Speckmann and Anna Sollman had 11 children. They had 2 daughters by the name of "Anna"...Anna Sophia born October 1838, and Anna Maria born March 17, 1843. I believe this is your Anna, as I have her husband as "Hermon Sanders"...and she was born in Indiana. This is very exciting....how do you relate to Anna?? Do you have pictures?? I have a picture of her brother George, among other things. Would be very interested in talking to you.

Carol (Speckman) Wheelis/CA

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:35:35 -0600 (CST) To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Family line

Joan Tackett 2-6-1940 m. James KuyKendall b. 7-15-1934 d. 1-17-2000-- 5children

Curtis "Bud" Tackett b.1-13-1920 d. 9-28-1992 m. Alice Fugate b. 9-16-1920 d. 12-11-1986

3 daughters

Thomas Henry Tackett b. 5-17-1877 d. 7-1-1959

m. #1 Alick Hicks-1 daughter #2 Rena Manning b. 7-21-1888 d. 9-1975- 9

children

Thomas Jefferson Wilson Tackett b. 8-17-1855 d. 5-18-1921 m. Mary Ann"Polly" Hicks b. 7-22-1858 d. 12-11-1934 -10 children that I know of

Sherwood Tackett b. 5-8-1855 d.5-18-1907 m. #1 Mary Campbell m.#2 SarahE. Zornes

Children of Shrewood and Mary m. 7-10=1853

Ellen-died young

Thomas J.W. 8-17-1855 5-18-1921 m. Mary Ann

"Polly" Hicks

John B.G. 1-15-1859 12-17-1910 m. Elizabeth

Hicks

Martha 1861 m. McIntosh

Rachel Rodisa 1867 1896 M. James McCleese

James Rufus 3-19-1867 11-4-1967 m. Myra Ellen

Brown

Children of Sherwood and Sarah m. 6-3-1869

Moses

Charles

William m Magnolia Wells

Mary

Dora

Cora

Ora

Do you have the parentage of Sherwood? If not I can give that to you.And have you ever gone to the Tackett Family Association online? It hastons of information about the various surnames linked to the Tackett

name--including the Zornes and Campbells. I hope this is what you wanted. Please let me know if there is anythingelse I can tell you.Joan

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From: DeanHickmn@ | Block address

Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:43:46 EST

Subject: Etta Fizpatrick(s)

To: jwgrace99@

CC: concho@

I have in my FTM file two Etta Fitzpatricks and they may be the same person. I have (Hulda E. in your files) Etta Fitzpatrick marring Voris Ellsworth Hill (he was born September 22, 1875). with Children Leoda (born September 27, 1899), a son born March 16, 1900, Pearl Hill, and Gladys Hill.

The other (?) Etta Fitzpatrick m Paul Hill with her parents William C. Fitzpatrick (b 1839) and Rebecca Palmer.(b 1841). Etta's siblings were Ernest (c. 1878), Elizabeth (b. 1870), James (b. 1872), George (b. 1868) and Ellsworth (=my Elza? b.1875). . I don't know where I got the Paul Hill marriage.

I have Elza Fitzpatrick marrying Martha Woods (b 1885) with children Edith (1901), Dorothy (1907), and Willard.(1915). Martha Woods was Sandy Woods girl. Sandy Woods is probably Alexander M. Wood who married Ida M. Sands (b. 1862).

I also have an Alexander Wood (1856-1940) who married Ellen Landrum (1872-1940). The last (b. 1856) was son of John Spicer Wood (1831-1923) and Mahala Leap. The second wife of John Spicer Wood was Mary Ann Elizabeth Riley Wilson, widow of Benjamin Franklin Wilson.

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) | Block address

Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:33:02 -0600 (CST)

To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace)

Subject: Re: Family line

John,

Sorry about the slip of the fingers on Sherwood. I also have 1835. As for Rachel Rhodisa, that is the only date I have ever found. I wondered about it myself because James Rufus was born in the same year. I'm sorry I don't have anymore information on Myra Ellen Brown. I have only been doing this for a couple of years and am still concentrating on the grandparents lines. I haven't gotten to their siblings yet.

I haven't been able to find the first thing about the McCleese's. Rena Manning was my grandmother. I don't know if my grandfather divorced Alice Hicks or if she died and then he remarried. I do know my

grandfather killed Alice's brother in a fight and stood trial for his murder and was aquitted. I am very close to Susan who is the granddaughter of Willa Mae, the only child of Thomas Henry and Alice Hicks. She told me that Alice was very wild and into Black Magic. My grandfather was a very mild and gentle man and I could never picture him killing a man in a knife fight. All of my Tackett family is from around

the Olive Hill Ky area. My grandparents left that area around 1919 or so and moved to Irondale,Ohio-close to East Liverpool on the Ohio river. The last 2 children where born there. Sometime later they moved toCincinnati, and the older children followed , all except one whoremained in East Liverpool. Also his sister Dicie moved to that areaand most of her family lives there to this day. This is what I have on Moses Tackett. I found him a real enigma and soemailed the Tackett Association for information on him. They documenteverything before they will pass it on.

Moses born abt 1811 probably in Knox Co. Ky died abt 1861/1869 buriedGarvin Ridge Cemetery near Olive Hill Ky. His father is Thomas but hismother's name us unknown . Married Rhodisa Osborne on 4-17-1831 daughterof Sherwood Osborne abt. 1788-1837 and Louisa Collier b. abt 1790. Theywere married by Elder Wm. Tackett Sr.

Children:

James Wilson 1833-1921

Sherwood 1835-1907

Zerilda 1838

Levisa 1840

Sarah Ann 1843

Elizabeth 1844

John Rufus 1849

Eady Emaline 1852

Stephen 1854

William 1857-1900

George B. 1861

John you are not going to believe this. Stapled to the back of somepapers on some family group sheets that my cousin Susan gave is me is acopy of a pension application filled out and signed by Sherwood Tackett. It is stamp dated Jan. 5, 1899 .It was filled out, signed and dated on Dec. 31, 1898 by him. It stateshe married Sarah Elizabeth Zornes on June 3,1868 in Carter Co. Ky, Italso states that he was married to Mary Campbell who died on Jan 1,1868. (Boy he sure didn't wait long to remarry) It also has a list ofhis living children.With their birth dates. If you don't have it I will get a copy made andsend it to you.Oh dear, I didn't realize how late it is. I'd best be getting myselfoff to bed. Talk to you later.Joan

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From: KLMPIANO@ Full-name: KLMPIANO Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:59:04 EST Subject: Re: Genealogy To: mavis@

Hi again, Mavis...I took a copy of the Journal to the Post Office this morning on the way to the doctor - to get my stitches out. Don't know for sure how long it will take to get to you.

Since he told me to take it easy today because they took out the stitches, I will sit here with my foot propped up and write you about my life. You know that I was born here in Long Beach, CA in 1937. My father, CALVIN MASON, was the son of the author of the Journal...W. F. MASON. We lived just a few blocks from him and we, as a family, would always visit him for an hour or so every week. Plus, one of grandfather's daughters, RENA MASON, was divorced, living in my grandfather's house and had a son about my brother's age..so they played together a lot.

I guess I'll forward this to Cheryl, too. It just occurred to me that Aunt Rena, too, is a fine pianist and supported herself and her son many years by teaching voice and piano and also being an accompanist in various schools. She lives just a couple of miles from me - she's 84. But I'm getting off-track! My family consisted of my dad, CALVIN (1901)and my mom (1911), ZEREITA, and my brother, NEIL (1939). Both my brother and I went to the same elementary school and high school as both of our parents had attended.My parents gave me piano lessons when I was 6 and from the very beginning, I always loved it. I continued with lessons throughout my childhood - and later after I was married, in college I studied music, also.When I was 14 our church pianist was going to quit and the church deacons asked me if I would take over for her. It entailed 4 services on Sunday, Wednesday night prayer meeting and Thursday night choir practice...plus anything special that came up. It was quite a challenge for a kid, but it was really good for me and I am very glad that I accepted the opportunity.Because people in the congregation were exposed to my piano playing, when I was 18 one lady asked me to teach her granddaughter. At first, I was

hesitant, but I did it and that led to more and more students. I taught private piano lessons in my home for the next 20 years.I was married young (just barely 17) to ROBERT COUTTS (pronounced Coots - Scottish). I had met Bob at my grandfather's house, ironically. He was best buddies with my cousin JOYCE's (she is aunt EDITH's daughter) future husband , BILL, back when they were living in Illinois. At that time, they were both in the Marine Corps. Bill had just come home from Korea and Bob left the next day for Korea. We were married in the same church that my parents were married in. Bob was

now working for Douglas Aircraft. Our first baby was SHERILL ANN in 1955. After she was born, my parents kept the baby a couple of nights a week so I could go to college. Our second daughter was SONDRA LYN in 1958. Followed the next year by our son, JOHN PAUL in 1959. In 1959 we moved to a new housing tract in Orange County (abut 5 miles from my parents in Long Beach). In 1960, Bob became an Orange County Deputy Sheriff. I had quit trying to finish my college and was a stay at home mom..except for the piano lessons, but the students always came to my home, so I was still there with my kids.Bob's schedule was irregular, just as any police officers would be. He worked days, swing-shift and midnights....sometimes all in one week. Also, his days off rotated back so that his days off changed every week. Our family just "worked around it" - we had the bedroom pretty much sound-proofed so that he could sleep during the day when necessary.After all the kids were in school full-time, I was able to take more college classes during the day and still teach in my home after school. By the time Sherill was graduating high-school, Bob and I were divorced. It was very sad - and looking back on things, maybe we just started out our marriage way too young. But it happened. Bob passed away in 1992 of cancer.I went to work during the daytime, as a school pianist and still taught private lessons at home when the children were home. After a couple of years, I decided that there wasn't enough "security and benefits" as a pianist, so I went to work for the County of Orange. Started out as a typist and moved on to the Criminal Division Supervisor and then became a Superior Court Clerk. I was still teaching private lessons Monday thru Thursday after dinner and half-day on Saturday. Did that for about 6 more years. Then I just had my Court job.

I enjoyed being in the courtroom, even though it could be hectic at times. Mostly, the thousands of felony trials and civil lawsuits were interesting. When I retired in June 1999, I had been there 30 years.

After all my children were grown, a "girlfriend" (I say that but we are both old) decided to buy a house together. So we lived together (she was also a Court Clerk) for a few years.About 8 years ago, my mother had her first stroke (my father had passed away in 1982 and she was alone) and couldn't be left at home here by herself. So I sold everything and moved in with mom. When I first moved here, she was

able to set the dinner table and do a few things to prepare dinner for when I got home from work.Her health deteriorated over the years and now she's had 4 strokes, is legally blind and as of last year, has had to be moved to an Assisted Living place here in Long Beach. I see her almost every day and she is in good spirits. I bring her home for lunch about every two weeks. So since she has been there, my life has changed dramatically in that I am able to do anything I want - am totally on my own now. I have lots of friends and we do things together. Also, I am taking computer classes (goodness knows, I need that!) and watercolor painting. And I'm redecorating the house...so I'm painting, but walls - not pictures!

Here's the story on my children. They all lived here very close to me for many years and then about 12 years ago they all scattered.

SHERILL married KEVIN MCMELLEN in 1977. They live in Slater, MO now. Sherill is a nurse in a State Hospital. Kevin works in heating/air conditioning. Their first child, JASON, was born in 1979 and drowned in a swimming pool at 14 months. JAMIE ROSE was born in 1980 and works in the same heating/air conditioning plant where her father works. MARK was born in 1981 and is attending PreMed at the Univ. of Mo. at Kansas City. DAMIEN was born in 1983 and is a senior in high school.

SONDRA married PHRED BUSSEY in 1982. They live in Tukwila, WA now. Sondra works in inventory control and Phred goes to college full time and also has his own Debris Removal Service. Their daughter, KATIE was born in 1989 and is in 6th grade.

JOHN PAUL married SARA PITTS in 1984. She had a son, ALAN, who was born in 1979 and whose natural father moved away to Australia before he was born. So Alan has always used my son's last name and we consider him ours. They live in Tracy, CA now. John Paul is the Plant Manager at the Herrick Steel plant at Stockton, CA. Alan works for the same Steel Co. but in Pleasanton in the computer aspect. Sara also works, but she changes jobs quite a bit and at the moment, I'm drawing a blank as to what she is doing now! Shame on me!My brother, NEIL, married JAN LEMMERMAN in 1961. They have one son, JERRY, who was born in 1970. He married JENNIFER LOWE and they have 3 children: JACOB (7), SAMUEL (4) and REBEKAH (1). All of them lived here until about 3 years ago and then Jerry and his family moved to Claremore, OK. Neil & Jan moved there last Spring. Neil works for American Airlines and up until they moved to OK, Jan was a legal secretary.

Whew! Too much info!

I'd love to hear all about you and your family. If I am successful in sending the Family Treemaker to Cheryl, then I'll try sending it to you - f you want.Bye for now.Cuz Kay

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) | Block address Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:21:17 -0600 (CST) To: jwgrace99@ Subject: RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: Merz Burdge Odlum Lane Kettner Schmitz Duncan Wutka Zones& allied families

According to this Andrew Jr. and Catherine were brother and sister. Oh well, .....Joan

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John,I've been doing some checking, but have only found more questions. Therewere at least 3 James Vanlandinghams in Bath and Fleming Cos. One James Vanwas the son of William and Martha Denton Vanlandingham. He married EleanorPerkins 11 Nov 1836 in Fleming Co., KY. Eleanor was the daughter of EdmundPerkins and Elizabeth Vanlandingham. Another James was married toElizabeth Winn. This is a strong possiblility. Are you aware that 7 ofMartha Denton Vanlandinghams brothers and sisters were married to 6 Huntbrothers and sisters? I can accept a Doc file and would love to have more information on theJacob Ross family. What can I send you? If I'm slow getting back to you,it;s because I work 3 days a week. The other two I do the film orderingfor the Lebanon, OR Family History Center. Bette

Bette, much thanks for your kind offer of assistance. In addition to charts I wrote to you about, I'm also including several pages of research notes that I have accumulated over the years. I "just know" there's a clue in there somewhereIt's my custom to link the various surname charts together via name "flags" on the left margin of my charts. I hope you can follow my rather "unique" format.I guess my highest priority would be to find anyone linked to Minor Denton (of the Minor Denton letter fame). By itself, his letter could conceivably establish my John Nelson Ross's parentage.Although one family tradition has it that John's parents were forced into divorce, I have tended to discount this, since it would not account for his loss of contact with both parents. An out-of-wedlock situation is also a possibility, but again, that would not account for the loss of both parents (one would expect that John would have been raised by other family members, in any case). Actually the scenarioes that my uncle and I explored first involved Elizabeth Vnlandingham being John's mother (marrying Vanlandingham after John's birth), or, Elizabeth Vanlandingham being John's older sister. This last speculation led us to look for Ross- Vanlandingham marriages. The wording of John's marriage bond would tend to argue against Elizabeth being Johns sister, in that it would be unlikely that she would have refered to John as "our son" in his 1839 marriage bond.On the other hand, if John's parents had both died, do to typhoid, for example, one would expect that close relatives would be the first choice as foster parents. The inconsistency with that seems to be that there appear to be Ross's that were related to John in the area, but they did not take him in. The Vanlandinghams did! All very mysterious!Before closing, I should mention one minor, but in a way, quit poignant irony concerning John. John Nelson Ross is buried next to his wife, Nancy, in the Ross Chapel Cemetery, just outside Olive Hill, Kentucky. On the opposite side of John from his wife is the grave of one Willie Sparks, who died in 1889, just days short of his 18th birthday. Willie was the adopted son of John and Nancy. John and Nancy were quite elderly when they took Willie in, and they had already raised a large family of their own. But, it does seem, that John felt he had a debt of sorts to repay. To the memory of the family that took him into their home, when he had none of his own.Best regards,John

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From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) |Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:18:29 -0600 (CST) To: jwgrace99@

John, I was going to scan a few things out to you yesterday but mygrandchildren did something to my daughter's computer and now she can"tdo it. Her husband is out of town on a business trip but as soon as he

returns and gets it back up and running I will get busy and scan them toyou. Just some family group sheets on the Tacketts. You mentioned inone of your last emails that you aren't sure of Sarah Zornes line.

Could you please explain that. I thought I had it down fairlyaccurately but now don't know. Another thing that puzzles me. Yourhave Jacob Zorn and Catherine Ruhlmen as Andrew Zorn's Sr. parents. I

have read elsewhere that Andreas Zorn and Dorothea Nasar where hisparents. Do you know why there is this discreptancy? I am still in theprocess of transcribing what you sent me to my charts. One of my otherlines just took off and I've been off on that one. Why is it you goalong with not much of anything for awhile and then the dam bursts andyou have more info that you can handle. I am such a novice at this thatI sometimes wonder if I even know what I am doing. Oh well, I will justkeep plugging along.Hope to hear from you soonJoan

From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) |Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:55:01 -0600 (CST) To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace)

Subject: Re: Jacob Zorn John, Sorry if I haven't answered your email before this . I have been in a real funk and can't seem to get myself motivated to do anything lately. I am going to have to give myself a real swift kick in the rear and get myself going again. Just by way of letting you know-- my husband passed away a year ago in Jan. and I haven't been at my best this past month. Did I ever send you my line from the Zornes and Campbells thru the Tacketts. My memory is not very good right now. If not please let me know and I will send it to you to update your files.

Also I have an elderly Aunt -- she is 87 years old and she is going to get a computer and be online soon. While she is not interested in genealogy she does have a lot of family stories and loves to tell them. The last time I visited her she mentioned the Zornes. I don't know how much she knows about them but am anxious to find out when I next talk to her. As I said she loves to tell family stories and even writes a weekly column for the local newspaper in Mt. Vernon Ky. We are trying to talk her into putting them together and writing a book. I'm sure it would be very interesting. When she goes online I can send you her email addy if you like and maybe she can tell you some things about the Zornes and Campbells and I know about the Tacketts. And she would love to get the email -- she just loves that. She will also be in the chatroom a lot so we can talk to her there. It is the same chatroom I sent you for the online family reunion. Maybe we can all catch up there.

Hope to hear from you soon Your cuz .............Joan

From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) |Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:03:22 -0600 (CST) To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace) Subject: Re: Jacob Zorn

John, Sorry meant to say Emma Zornes, not Sarah. This is not my best time of the year, just something personal. Been making a lot of mistakes recently. This is what caught my eye about the parentage of the first Zornes--if you go to the Zornes page on GenFoum and go to message # 144 and #141 you will see where I am getting so confused. Of course when your are dealing with lineage dating back that far I can see where it can get confusing. I have that is several other lines also. I really do appreciate all the help you have given me on this. Maybe I am so into the Zornes because my elderly Aunt mentioned the name the last time I visited her. She didn't know anything about them -- just the name.

As to the Tacketts, what can I help you with. I do have a fair amount of information on them . Unfortunately I can't remember what I have sent you and what I haven't. ( I must learn to keep a log -- it sure would make things easier ) Maybe if I sent you my surname list you could tell me what interests you from that . How does that sound.

Must get and go met the bus and pick up the grandkids from school .Hope to talk with you soon. your cuz...........Joan

From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:26:01 -0500 (CDT)

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Rachel McCleese

John,

Thank you so much for the information on finding Thomas J and Cynthia

Brown. I was able to find that posting and printed it all out. Sure

does add more info for him.

Now I have one for you. Awhile back I found a posting to the Carter

Co.

Query Forum dated Wed. 27, Dec. 2000 by Blaine McCleese titled

Elizabeth

McCleese. It is a rather long posting about a Daniel McCLeese and his

family rafting down the Ohio River from Pa in the late 1790's. I

printed it out because there were 2 Rachel's mentioned in it but I

didn't know if one of them was ours or not. I have now found out that

yes this is our Rachel's family.

In response to the ad in the Olive Hill paper my cousins and I put in,

I

have talked to a lady who has done genealogy for a number of years,

although she is not doing it right now. She has a lot of information

on

the Zornes and McCleeses. She was able to tell me a bit about the

Zornes but her McCleese papers are packed up at her parents house. She

is going to copy some of the Zornes work that she has and send it to me

and when she goes to her parents house she will get the McCleese papers

and copy them and send them also. But she did confirm that Rachel's

father was Daniel.

Some of the information in the Zornes paperwork were Military Pension

applications for Andrew's service in the Rev. War. She said she would

make sure to include that. She also told me that Martin Zorn is buried

at Sandy Springs Cemetery in Adams Co. Oh. and has a very nice monument

there. My best friend from High School lives in Adams Co. and I am

going to ask her if it is close to her and if she could take a pic of

it for me.

I am also sending you an email that I got from Marlene and Earl

Tackett.

They contacted Tony Tackett ( all these people are contacts from the ad

in the paper ) who gave them directions to Sherwood's grave there in

Olive Hill. Marlene and Earl went to take a look and gave us very

specific directions to it. I thought you might like to go there while

you are in Olive Hill in Aug. They didn't say if they saw Mary L's

grave but I would suspect her's is there also. Marlene and Earl are

related thru William s/o of Moses brother to Sherwood. Tony is related

thru James Rufus son of Sherwood and Mary L. I can also give you

directions to the graves of Thomas J.W. Tackett son of Sherwood and

Mary

L. if you would like.

You may want to contact Tony while you are in Olive Hill. You talked

about finding contemporary relatives and he sure enough is one. He is

Michael Anthony s/o of Arthur M. s/o of Arthur D. s/o of James Rufus

s/o

Sherwood Tackett and Mary L. Campbell. Tony is VP of Operations for

Mainline Communications and is located at 140 Railroad St. in Olive

Hill. It is in the old historic depot.

I am also sending you a picture of James Rufus Tackett that Tony gave

Marlene and Earl and I will type out what the article says about him.

I have this info on another site so it will come from a different email

address.

Why is it that you go along in a draught for what seems like forever

and

then all of a sudden all your lines start popping and you can hardly

keep up with all the new information. But I love it.

Your Cuz,

Joan

From: joaniekk@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:39:29 -0500 (CDT) To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Fwd: TACKETT FAMILY

John, here is the letter from Marlene and Earl with the directions to Sherwood's grave. Hope some of this helps.

Joan

From: ironjaw2@ (Joan Kuy-Kendall) |Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:19:29 -0500 (CDT) To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace) Subject: Re: Rachel McCleese

John I'm sure Deanna was talking about Martin Zorn, Andrews brother. He fought in the Rev. War too. Here is Tony's phone number for his office, 286-8080, also he has a fax number too, it is 877-286-8815. I am sure he would like to hear from you. After talking with you this morning I got a phone call from his Uncle Jimmy Nolan who married a descendant of Sherwood and Mary. He has a lot of Nolan information and also pages from the family Bible he is going to send me. I have Nolans thru my Hicks lines on the Tackett side. We sure have gotten good response from this ad.Talk to you later Cuz

Joan

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Attachment: Forwarded Message

From: "Marlene Tackett"

To: joaniekk@

CC: barjan@

Subject: TACKETT FAMILY

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:54:21 -0400

Hey ladies; I met the guy today that had responded to your ad in the

Olive

Hill paper- Tony Tackett. I visited his business. He is a very nice

person

and interested in his family. We really enjoyed the visit. He gave me

copies

of the info. he has and copy of a photo of James Tackett. He said he

is

coming to Destin next week and hopes to get up with you. He said that

he

mailed you a copy of that info. yesterday. If for any reason you don't

get

it, let me know and I'll send a copy of what he gave me. Sherwood is

buried

at the Olive Hill Memory Gardens Cemetery, ther in town. It's located

on the

main rd. through town (US 60) on the right just past the little

sommerset

gas station. When you go through the gate where the old sign is

located, go

to your left. His grave is near the fence, and behind a white house

toward

the school. I visited the gravesite as well. He has a nice momument. It

has

a picture of rifles and a star at the top to represent the war. Beside

his

grave is the grave of a John G. Tackett, died in 1910. I'm not sure who

this

is. Tony said that he told you he could get photo's of the grave for

you,

and when I'm back over there, I'll remember to take a camera also. I'll

talk

to ya later-just wanted to inform you of this contact. Love Earl &

Marlene

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From: joaniekk@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:37:34 -0500 (CDT)

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Fwd: James Tackett

John here is the picture of James Rufus and this is what the article

says about him.

Tackett, James, Olive Hill brickyarder and inventor. Born April 19,

1867, in Lewis Co. , son of Sherwood and Mary Ellen Campbell Tackett.

At 10 . built a wooden water mill at Gimlet to grind bran. As a

foreman

at General Retractories, he invented machinery and processes which were

patented and use throughout the industry, includng a brick sizing

machine utilizing a knife, auger and repress. Married Myra Brown.

Republican. Baptist. Died Nov. 4, 1967. See :Uncle Jim Tackett marks

centennial," Ashland Daily Independent, April 16, 1967, Page 22

Also on the same page was this written about Thomas J.

Tackett, Thomas, Grefco Foreman. Born Aug. 17, 1855, son of Sherwood

and Mary Campbell Tackett. Republican, Baptist. Died May 18, 1921.

Tony didn't say where he got these pages -- looks like some book.

Joan

From: joaniekk@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:44:36 -0500 (CDT)

To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace)

Subject: Re: Fwd: James Tackett

John, I know what you mean about Christmas. This last month has been

Christmas almost everyday.

As for Myra Ellen Brown she was born 3-1-1888 in Carter Co. so I think

it is a good bet she is. Her parents were Harvey Brown and Martha

Alexander.

I got this info from Tony. Myra would be his GG grandmother and he

might have more info on her that what he sent. He is going on vacation

this week end and if he comes down to see me I will ask him about Myra.

As for the McCleeses I'm sure that Deanna will be able to tell me that

info on Dicie's husband after she finds her McCleese papers. I'm just

so glad that I printed out the one thing I did find.

How much time are you going to spend in Olive Hill? I sure wish I

could

get up there too. Well someday I will. There is just too much there

for me to miss it. My grandparents came from there and most of my

aunts and uncles where born there.

My grandfather, Thomas H. Hicks, was first married to Alice Hicks,

They

were a wild bunch, the Hicks I mean. Alice's brothers and father came

to the house one night to kill my grandfather. He took the knife from

one of them and killed Alice's brother. Then he turned himself into

the

sheriff and was acquitted during the trial. This happen sometime

around

the end of the 1800's or early 1900's . I would love to try to find

out

if they have any old newspaper articles concerning this. Also find my

grandfather's divorce papers from Alice. He then married my

grandmother, Rena Manning-Eldridge.

She had a big secret in her family, she was illegitimate and of course

it was not a subject that was discussed in our family. Now I am having

trouble finding anything out about her. Makes for some very difficult

searches. Hopefully if I get up there I can find something out.

Anyway you look at it though, this searching and finding and sharing is

what it is all about and so much fun,

Your Cuz,

Joan

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From: "Pat Wastion" To: jwgrace@ Subject: Re: [Re: []] Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:38:12 -0500

Etta married William Haywood( born 09-21-1888) in Olive Hill, Ky on June 17th, 1908 they had three sons John Clayton, Jack Dewey and Muriel

Franklin, I come from, John Clayton he married Anna Delana Gentry(05-26-1907)they were married 08-30-1930, there were 8 children

John David, 05-28-1931, died 6-20-1998, he married Rena Hall on 6-20-1953

they had 1 son John Clayton born 09-30-1953

Bobbie Wade(my father) 05-06-1934, died 11-17-1972, he married Rita Muller

they had 4 children Patricia Ann 11-27-1959

Charles Allan 3-11-1961

Bobby Lee 5-22-1962

Cory James 5-2-1969

Rosetta May 3-8-1936- died 10-23-1936

Mary Ivelene 5-11-1937- died 8-11-1988

she married Robert Collins 3-13-27 had

9 children

James Edward 5-6-1951

Gary Lee 8-18-1953

Paul Ray 3-1-1955

Sharon Sue 10-24-1956 - died 7-20-1974

Regina Ann 12-24-1957

Carolyn Jane 6-29-1959

Jack Clayton 12-27-1960

Debra Kay 1-19-1963

Patricia Gail 3-5-1966

Mary Ivelene married Dempsey Howard on 6-5-1974 had one son

Dempsey Jake Howard 10-14-1972

Jack Clayton 2-4-1939

Shirley Ann 5-13-1941- died 10-8-1941

Gail Elizabeth 3-11-1947 married Charles Wolfe on 12-30-1967. had one

daughter Lynda Gail Wolfe 7-20-1968

Ralph Lee 4-26-1949- died 4-26-1949

I am working with my Uncle Jack who lives in Florida, I will get the info on

Etta's other two sons and send it along to you both are now dead

all of Etta and William's children lived in Portsmouth,Ohio after William

died on 12-8-1937 Etta married Roy Hughes they had no children Etta Died

1-15-1950 Roy Hughes died 1-6-1943 they are both buried in Greenlawn

Cemetery in Portsmouth,Ohio

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Re: Martin Zornes/1821-1846/KY/TN

Posted by: Beverly Johnson Sweeney Date: January 07, 2000 at 19:05:22

In Reply to: Re: Martin Zornes/1821-1846/KY/TN by Joyce Zornes DeSize of 189

Descendants of

Andreas (Andrew) ZORN and M Dorothea NASSER and Catherine Zurnin Or ZURN

1. Andreas (Andrew)1 ZORN, born 1725 in Kirnbach, Wurttenberg, Germany He married (1) on 13 Feb 1743 in Massenbach, Wurttenberg, Germany M Dorothea (NASSER) Zorn, born 1725 in Of, Massenbbach & Kirnbach, Wurttenberg, Germany; died 1751 in Massenbach, Wurttenberg, Germany, daughter of Christopher NASSER; (2) on 15 Jan 1754 in , Lancaster Co, Pennsylvania Catherine Zurnin Or (ZURN) Zorn, died aft 1812.

Notes for Andreas (Andrew) ZORN

SOURCE: Mar 1998, Jane Burrows now states that the father of Andrew and Martin is Andreas Zorn from Massenbach and Kirnbach, Germany. The father is not Jacob, if this is true all of the below is wrong;

NOTE: There's a big debate on who this is, will wait for more information;

I believe I have more info now (Sept 1998) and I think the proof is that Andreas Zorn and M. Dorothea Nasser are the parents of Martin, Andrew and Catharina Zorn. see note from Larry Zornes;

NOTE: From Thomas Zornes, Apr 1997: "Name Jacob Zorn/Zern, b. 1718, Germany.

d. 1756, Pendleton Co., WVA. In notes:

1738 arrived in Philadelphia 20 Sep 1738 from Rotterdam on "Friendship" commanded by Henry Beach. 20 years old when he arrived coming from Germany".

"1738 Jacob Zorn is found to be 20 years old in 1738 on one of the

references of Immigration Lists".

"Located in Pike Co., PA for about 4 years".

"In 1742 is found in the territory later to be known as Pendleton Co.,

WVA".

"1743-1746 confirmed arrival of Jacob Zorn. Found in the List of Members of the Tulpehocken Church in PA".

"1751 married Maria Catherina (Ruleman???)".

"Found in Pendleton Co., in 1756 p229".

"Died 1756".

"Was among the first settlers to die in the Territory 1755/56".

"Died 1755, estate probated 1756".

"History of Pendleton County by Morton".

"1763 Purchased 200 acres from Robert Green on South Fork Creek for $55.33, The other 400 acres went to Jacob Ruleman and Catharine Ruleman p387 - (Tom adds:) "This seems to be a misunderstanding".;

NOTE: Larry L. Zornes, Sept 1998:

Probably died 1759-1816 in Monogalia Co.,VA (W.VA) or Greenup Co.,KY;

Andreas brought his three children to the American Colonies on 3 Sep 1752 aboard the ship Andrew from Rotterdam to the port of Philadelphia. His children's names were Andrew, Martin, and Catharina. His wife's brother, Han Georg Naqsser, was aboard also. Andreas was a servant in Massenbach, Germany;

Sources:

"Names of Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Allegiance PA., 30,000 Names" by Rupp.

Gernam information from book "18th Century Emigrants"

ANCESTRAL QUERY, Andreas Zorn b. 1725 Germany

Rotterdam to Philadelphia, PA in 1752 with a family. Possibly on the ship "St. Andrew".

Andreas Zorn information on CD-ROM (CD-354).

Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1538-1940.

Zorn, Andreas Place : America

Year : 1752

Primary Individual : Zorn, Andreas

Source Code : 1815

Source Name : Ehmann, Karl. Die Auswanderung in die Neuengland-Staaten aus Orten des Enzkreises im 18. Jahrhundert. (Suedwestdeutsche Blaetter fuer Familien- und Wappenkunde, special supplement, 1977.) 59p.

Source Page # : 30

Zorn, Andreas Place : Pennsylvania

Year : 1752

Primary Individual : Zorn, Andreas

Source Code : 1804

Source Name : Egle, William Henry, editor. Names of Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Alleginace to the Privince and State of Pennsylvania, 1727-1775, with the Foreign Arrivals, 1786-1808. (Pennsylvania Archives, ser, 2, vol. 17.) Harrisburg [PA]: E.K. Meyers, 1890. 787p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1967.

Source Annotation : Taken from original manuscripts in the state archives. Names given throughout pages 1-677. Foreigners arriving in Pennsylvania named on pages 521-667. No 3776, Kelker, supplements this.

Source Page # : 356

Zorn, Andreas Place : Philadelphia

Year : 1752

Primary Individual : Zorn, Andreas

Source Code : 7820

Source Name : Rupp, Israel Daniel. A Collection of Upwards of Thirty Thousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and Other Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727 to 1776, with a Statement of the Names of Ships, Whence They Sailed, and the Date of Their Arrival at Philadelphia, Chromologically Arranged, Together with the Necessary Historical and Other Notes, also, an Appendix Containing Lists of More Than One Thousand German and French Names in New York prior to 1712. Leipzig [Germany] : Degener & Co., 1931. 478, 89p. Reprint of the 2nd revised and enlarged ed., 1876, with index from 3rd ed. by Ernst Wecken, 1931, and added index of Ships. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1985. 583p.

Source Annotation : An index by Marvin V. Koger, Index to the Names of 30,000 Immigrants...Supplementing the Rupp, Ship Load Volume, 1935, 232p. is inferior to Wecken's index in the third edition (above) . Page 449 contains "Names of the First Palatines in North Carolina, as Early as 1709 and 1710"; and pages 449-451 contain "Names of Males, Salzburgers, Settled in Georgia, 1734-1741." Contrary to some opinions, this work by Rupp does not duplicate nos. 9041-9042 by Strassburger, although there are thousands of names which are duplicates. Strassburger's work, however, is more accurate and more reliable than Rupp's. See also no. 9330, Urlsperger. The Salzburgers mentioned above were immigrants from Salzburg, Austria.

Source Page # : 277

Statement by Larry Zornes: "I've also talked via e-mail to Dick Zornes who has researched the Zornes family for more than 40 years and he said he could prove that Jacob was not the three kids father."

"Some of them have Catherine Zurnin as the mother, but she didn't marry Andreas until 1754. This was well after the birthdates of the kids.";

SOURCE: Pennsylvania German Pioneers by Strassburger, Vol. 1, page 485;

List 181 C, At the Statehouse in Philadelphia, Saturday, 23 September, 1752. The Foreigners whose Names are underwritten, Imported in the Ship St Andrew, Captain James Abercrombie, from Rotterdam and last from Plymouth in England;

Name: Andres Zorn;

Sources for Andreas (Andrew) ZORN

Zorn Researcher.

Eighteenth Century Emigrants.

Notes for M Dorothea NASSER

SOURCE: Mar 1998, Jane Burrows;

Eighteenth Century Emigrants.

Notes for Catherine Zurnin Or ZURN

SOURCE: Jane Burrows, Sacramento, CA;

Mar 1998, Gives name as Catherine Zurn(in), step-mother to Andrew

and Martin;

NOTE: From Tom Zornes, Apr 1997: "Had three husbands". "Used Ruhlmann. Upon

their arrival she was listed as Maria age 7". "Also called Maria."

"Could not have married Garret Decker."

Tom has name: "Maria Catherine (Ruhlmann)/Ruleman."

Zorn Researcher.

Children of Andreas (Andrew) ZORN and M Dorothea NASSER were as follows:

2 i Eva Dorothea2 ZORN, christened 28 Jul 1744 in Massenbach, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 3 Sep 1744 in Massenbbach, Wurttenberg, Germany. BAPTISM: God Parents: Maria Eva Trettzin, Maria Eva Kutterin, Hans Michael Mueller;Eighteenth Century Emigrants.

3 ii Eva Catherina2 ZORN, christened 6 Oct 1745 in Massenbach, Wurttemberg, Germany. She married on 3 Aug 1777 in , Lancaster Co, Pennsylvania John BUSH. BAPTISM: God Parents: Maria Eva Trettzin, Maria Eva Kutterin, Johann Michael Mueller;Eighteenth Century Emigrants.

+ 4 iii Johann Andreas (Andrew)2 ZORN (Sr), christened 23 Dec 1747 in Massenbach, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 1844 in , Carter Co, Kentucky, buried in Rock Springs Cem, Carter Co, Kentucky. He married Rebecca (LEWELLYN) Zorn.

+ 5 iv Johann Martin2 ZORN, christened 21 Aug 1750 in Massenbach, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 20 Mar 1838 in , Adams Co, Ohio, buried in Sandy Springs Cem, Adams Co, Ohio. He married Catherine (STOUT) Zorn.

Children of Andreas (Andrew) ZORN and Catherine Zurnin Or ZURN were as follows:

6 i William "Willy"2 ZORN, died Jul 1774 in PawPaw Creek. Research File Of D. Zornes From Sandy Wright.

+ 7 ii Polly2 ZORN, died bef 1781. She married James MAHON.

Generation 2

4. Johann Andreas (Andrew)2 ZORN (Sr) (Andreas (Andrew)1), christened 23 Dec 1747 in Massenbach, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 1844 in , Carter Co, Kentucky, buried in Rock Springs Cem, Carter Co, Kentucky. He married abt 1780 in prob., Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV) Rebecca (LEWELLYN) Zorn, born abt 1764 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia; died abt 1830 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky, daughter of Phillip LEWELLYN and Mary (Oldaker) (OLDACRE) Lewellyn.

Notes for Johann Andreas (Andrew) ZORN (Sr)

SOURCE: Jane Burrows, Sacramento, CA & Jaynie Bourland;

Says buried in the Zorn/Horsley Cem;

NOTE: Larry Zornes, Sep 1998, Came over on the ship St. Andrew on 3 Sep 1752 from Rotterdam to the port of Philadelphia;

Fought in Revolutionary War as a wagonmaster in the 8th Pennsylvania Line.

Rev. War marker placed on his grave in Rock Springs Cemetery in Carter Co.,KY. Granted Revolutionary War pension in Greeup Co.,KY in 1823 (age 77);

From Military Records on the internet: Andrew Zorns, 4 Regt. (Pogue's), Kentucky Vol.; Has the children: Ola and William that the Zornes Book doesn't have. William, b. 1803, m. Nancy, ch: James A. Zornes. b. 1835;

BAPTISM: God Parents: Maria Eva,wife of Conradt Trettzin, Maria Eva, wife of Ulich Kutter, Michael Mueller;

Sources for Johann Andreas (Andrew) ZORN (Sr)

Zorn Researcher.

Eighteenth Century Emigrants.

Notes for Rebecca LEWELLYN

SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records of Jane Burrows;

parents: Philip Lewellyn & Mary Oldacre;

Children of Johann Andreas (Andrew) ZORN (Sr) and Rebecca LEWELLYN were as follows:

8 i Catherine3 ZORN, born abt 1783 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV); died abt 1840. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows;

9 ii Mary (Polly) Lewellyn3 ZORN, born abt 1784 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV); died abt 1878 in Clackamas, Clackamas Co, Oregon. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows; D Zornes file from Sandy Wright, moved to Arkansas;

10 iii Phillip3 ZORN (Sr), born abt 1785 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV); died abt 1863 in , Carter Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland; D Zornes file from Sandy Wright, may had a son John (Curley Headed John); !CENSUS: 1810-KY, Greenup Co, pg 216/277: Males: 1 16-26, 1 under 10; Females: 1 10-16;

11 iv Andrew "Andy"3 ZORN (Jr), born abt 1794 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV); died 1 May 1857 in , Carter Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows; D. Zornes file from Sandy Wright, nickname Andy, On marriage certificate, William Jordan Jr, Bondsman. Lived at Carter,Carter Co,KY. Source of Death Date: KY State Archives, Carter Co, Deaths 1852-59; Said to had 23 children, "I don't have documentation on 23, so far, I have been told 4 by Rachel, 10 by Betsy. Betsy was 13 when she married Andrew;

12 v Martha3 ZORN, born abt 1795 in Virginia; died aft 1860 in , Carter Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows;

13 vi Martin3 ZORN, born abt 1798 in Virginia; died aft 1870 in Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows;

14 vii Rebecca3 ZORN, born abt 1800 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky; died abt 1836. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows;

15 viii May3 ZORN, born abt 1800. Zornes Book.

16 ix Adelphia "Delphia"3 ZORN, born abt 1807 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky; died abt 1830 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows; D Zornes file from Sandy Wright, On marriage certificate: Martin Zornes, Bondsman. no children;

17 x Nancy3 ZORN, born abt 1810 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky; died 10 Aug 1878. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows, b. c1800; D Zornes file from Sandy Wright, b. c1810;

18 xi Celia (Cela)3 ZORN, born abt 1810 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky; died bef 1828. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland from records provided by Jane Burrows;

5. Johann Martin2 ZORN (Andreas (Andrew)1), christened 21 Aug 1750 in Massenbach, Wurttemberg, Germany, died 20 Mar 1838 in , Adams Co, Ohio, buried in Sandy Springs Cem, Adams Co, Ohio. He married abt 1778 Catherine (STOUT) Zorn, born abt 1760.

Notes for Johann Martin ZORN

SOURCE: Jane Burrows, Sacramento, CA: BURIED: Sandy Springs Cem; Yr of b.;

Article: Shakin and Diggin by Bonnie Carver, Quincy, KY; date of

b.; and wife's name;

Jaynie Bourland, Nineveh, IN: Names of children, the dates, and

spouses names; From Land & Tax records, VA, (West), Momomgalia Co, 1771; Harrison Co, 1781-1794; "Sold land on Lost Creek, 1794, moved to KY, (Harrison Co. from Monongalia Co, 1784) Greenup Co, KY census; Marriage records: Mason, Fleming & Lewis Co's. KY; & Scioto Co, OH; reported in Rev. War, he has a DAR marker at his grave, has not been proved yet;

CENSUS: 1782-VA, Monongalia County, from hard book, pg 35: Zornes, Martin,

In household: 4 white; (that would be: Martin, wife: Catherine

(Stout), dau's: Susannah & Mary);

NOTE: From Tom Zornes, Apr 1997: "A Revolutionary War soldier without pension papers." "Moved to Kentucky and then to Adams Co., Ohio";

1. There is a D.A.R. marker on his grave;

2. Andrew and Martin came to KY from Monongalia Co., VA;

3. Had 300 acres of land on Lost Creek in 1781;

4. Buried at the Sandy Springs Cemetery, Sandy Springs, Ohio;

5. His name is on the Soldiers Monument saying he is a

Revolutionary War Veteran (No record found);

Marker says 84 years 5 mo;

1. Owned land on Decker's Creek, Monongalia Co., WVA in 1771;

2. Owned land on Lost Creek, Monongalia Co., WVA in 1781;

3. Moved to Lewis Co., KY between 1793 and 1796;

4. Moved across the Ohio River to Sandy Springs, Adams Co., Ohio

in 1833;

5. Lived in a log cabin behind Sandy Springs Cemetery until his

death on 29 Mar 1838;

1781 a Deed of Survey (SR-1, 150);

1782 among the heads of families for Monongalia Co, WVA (RSE, 35);

NOTE: Larry Zornes, Sep 1998, Came over on the ship St. Andrew on 3 Sep 1752 from Rotterdam to the port of Philadelphia;

BAPTISM: God Parents: Maria Eva Kutterin, Michael Mueller, Krum Holz;

Sources for Johann Martin ZORN

Zorn Researcher.

Eighteenth Century Emigrants.

Notes for Catherine STOUT

SOURCE: Article in Shakin and Diggin by Bonnie Carver, Quincy, KY;

Catherine's last name maybe: Stout;

Jaynie Bourland, Nineveh, IN; Name & b. date;

Zorn Book, Nov 1999, "No proof of Catherine's maiden name has been

found. She might have been the daughter of Thoams Stout, who

owned land on the Main Fork of Elk Creek, Monongalia Co,VA. Martin

bought land adjacent to this in 1780;

CENSUS: 1782-VA, Monongalia County, from hard book: pg 35: Zornes, Martin,

In household: 4 white; (that would be: Martin, wife: Catherine

(Stout), dau's: Susannah & Mary);

NOTE: There were several Stout's in the 1830 & 1840-OH, Adams Co, census;

(Could be relatives of Catherine);

Children of Johann Martin ZORN and Catherine STOUT were as follows:

19 i Susannah3 ZORN, born abt 1780 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV); died 1811 in , Fleming Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland; m. info: Martin Zorn - Bond; !CENSUS: 1782-VA, Monongalia County, from hard book: pg 35: Zornes, Martin, In household: 4 white; (that would be: Martin, wife: Catherine (Stout), dau's: Susannah & Mary);

20 ii Mary3 ZORN, born abt 1782 in , Monongalia Co, Virginia (WV). SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland; m. info: Martin Zorn - Bond; !CENSUS: 1782-VA, Monongalia County, from hard book: pg 35: Zornes, Martin, In household: 4 white; (that would be: Martin, wife: Catherine (Stout), dau's: Susannah & Mary);

21 iii William S3 ZORNS, born abt 1784 in Lost Creek, Harrison Co, (W)VA; died 21 Apr 1848 in Carthage, Ripley Twp, Rush Co, Indiana; buried in Old Franklin Cem, Ripley Twp, Rush Co, Indiana. SOURCE: Jane Burrows, Sacramento, CA; also wife and m. date; Jaynie Bourland; In one place his d. date was 21st, in another it was 28th; War of 1812; Military Records, National Archives; Was a private in Captain John Phillip's Company, Detached Kentucky Militia, 10th Regiment; "It is said he was a superior marksman, sharpshooter; From: 29 Mar 1813 to 28 Sept 1813; Certificate of Military Service; MARR. Cert: Rush Co, IN, Martin Zorn-Bond; WILL: Rush Co, IN; Lists 15 children; BURIAL: Franklin Cem; Courthouse, Rush Co. IN, Judgements, bk 7, pg 88, Spring Term, 1848, Debt against William and John Zornes, by John Walker; Courthouse, Rush Co. IN, Guardinaships, bk 1, pg 213, November Term, 1848, John Walker, Admin. of William Zornes, deced.; Courthouse, Rush Co. IN, Book: Complete Estate Record: Bond, Inventory, Bill of Sale & Final Settlement, Feburary Term, 1951; Courthouse, Rush Co. IN, Guardianship Papers; June Allan, Menlo Park, CA; Listed these sources: Portrait and Biog. Albumn of Mahaska Co, IA, Chapman Bros, Chicago IL; Allender Book: Death of William Zornes; SLC Archival family group sheets, subm. by Geneva Noe; Research of Esther Truax: Father was Martin Zornes, Rev. War Soldier; Edward Bryant Bates: Buried: Franklin Cem, (small family cem. in rural Rush Co. Ripley Twp. near Roads 600W and 600N); "Served during the War of 1812 with the 10th Regiment (Boswells) Kentucky Militia and Captain John Phillip's Company. He served on Lake Erie, with Commadore Perry, when they defeated the British. Kentucky militia were used as shipboard Marines, to shoot officers and gun crews on British ships."; Carla Smith by way of Lois Lester: a copy of two notes signed by Susan Bates & Sarah Flora, saying they received their share of William Zornes estate; D Zornes file from Sandy Wright, Franklin Cem located on road 800W off of 600N, north of Rushville and south of Carthage, IN; !MARRIAGE: 1st: From: Jaynie Bourland: The original marriage cert. has been missing for years. They sent a printed copy of the records; Page 127; James Greer and Martin Zornes, Bondsmen; Witnesses: Thomas and Nancy Daughtery; (have copy); Consent of father; 2nd: From: Jaynie Bourland: Courthouse, Rushville, Rush Co, IN; Marr. by James Havins, Minister of the Methodist Episcopal Church; (have copy); !CENSUS: 1810-KY, Fleming Co, pg 894/85; Males: 1 16-26, 1 under 10; Females: 1 26-45, 3 under 10; 1830-IN, Rush Co; Marr; male, age 40-50; From: Jaynie Bourland; Males: 1 40-50, 1 15-20; Females: 1 30-40, 1 10-15, 2 5-10, 1 under 5; 1840-IN, Rush Co; Marr; male, age 50-60; From: Jaynie Bourland; CENSUS: 1820 Fleming Co, KY; do not have yet also 1800, ?

22 iv Andrew3 ZORN, born abt 1786 in , Harrison Co, (W)Virgina; died Mar 1873 in , Whiteside Co, Illinois; buried in Garden Plain, Whiteside Co, Illinois. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland: m. 2nd: Elizabeth Snyder; bur: Garden Plain cem,; LDS Film #1394060, Subm,AF83-011770, Carla Rose Smith, Glendora, CA; Carla has place of b. PA; All info about wives and children is from this source; 2nd wife: Elizabeth (Betsy) McMahon Snyder, m. 20 Sep 1844; LDS Film #1395630, Batch & sheet #8327109; Gives b. yr same, b. in Lancaster, PA; Tom Zornes, says b. PA; Is in the 1860 census, Whilteside Co., IL & in the 1870 Census, Whiteside Co., IL this one married to another Elizabeth. War of 1812 Veteran. Poage's 4th. KY. Regt.bur. Garden Plain Cem. After the death of his wife Abigail, he packed his wagon and moved to Whiteside Co., IL. He died at the home of his dau. Elizabeth (Zornes) Clark Richards; !MARRIAGE: Records, Fleming Co, KY, pg 124; From: Jaynie Bourland; !CENSUS: 1840-OH, Adams Co, Green Twp, pg 4; male, age 50-60; Males: 1 30-40, 1 15-20, 1 5-10; Females: 1 40-50, 1 30-40;

23 v Catherine3 ZORN, born abt 1788 in , Harrison Co, (W)Virgina. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland; m. info: Martin Zorn - Bond;

24 vi Thomas Stout3 ZORN, born abt 1790 in , Harrison Co, (W)Virgina; christened in Or, Greenup Co, Kentucky; died Mar 1837 in , Lewis Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland; b.: Census; m. info: Scioto Co. OH. M.Records: A327; d.: "Kentucky Ancestors" Indian State Lib. Indianapolis, IN; Note: He and his wife, Purdence d. within days of each other. According to the family group sheets of Nelda Fredericks, provided to Jaynie by Jane Burrows, it is thought they d. of Typhoid or Small Pox; Estate Sale Papers from Jaynie Bourland; Ch: According to same records as above, Catherine Zorns Smith stated after the death of her parents (Thomas & Prudence), the minor ch. were sent to live with and work for the neighbors until they reached the age of m.;

25 vii Rebecca3 ZORNS, born abt 1790/1800. Zornes Book.

26 viii John3 ZORN, born 1790/1800 in , Greenup Co, Kentucky. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland, The word: probably, is next to his name, m. info;

27 ix Elizabeth Ann "Betsy"3 ZORN, born abt 1810. SOURCE: Jaynie Bourland; m. info; (Martin & Catherine on cert); Zornes Book, full name;

28 x Martin3 ZORNS, died bef 1845. Zornes Book.

7. Polly2 ZORN (Andreas (Andrew)1), died bef 1781. She married James MAHON.

Sources for Polly ZORN

Zornes Book.

Sources for James MAHON

Zornes Book.

Children of Polly ZORN and James MAHON were as follows:

29 i John Zern3 MAHON, born 1 Aug 1769 in Mahon's Camp.Mouth Of Mahon's Run, Buffalo Creek. Zornes Book.

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From: "Jan Lopez" To: Subject: Mary James/b ca 1833/KY Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:59:16 -0600

John:Hi! I'm Jan Lopez and am just starting to try to sort out my JAMES family. In searching GenForum today, I came across a message posted by you in December, 2000. It rang some bells, so thought I'd drop you a note to see if we can connect. I have a Mary James b abt 1833 to George James and Rebecca Zornes. Now, Mary James' sister, Rebecca James, married Reuben Ross in 1848. That might explain your finding Mary in Reuben Ross' house in 1850 Carter Co., KY Census. George James and Rebecca Zornes also had a son, William R. James, who married Elizabeth Ross, and William and Elizabeth Ross James had a daughter named Margaret Ann James. Margaret Ann James was my Great Grandmother. I believe that the Ross', James' and Zornes were all from the vicinity of Carter Co., KY. I have noticed some Fleming Co., KY and PA listings as places of birth in past generations as well. It sounds very much like we connect, but am looking forward to hearing from you so that we might compare information.

Jan Kansas jslopez@

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Descendants of George James

Generation No. 1

1. GEORGE1 JAMES died Unknown. He married JENNY. She died Unknown.

Child of GEORGE JAMES and JENNY is:

2. i. HENRY2 JAMES, b. Bef. 1754, Harrison Co., KY (PA); d. Unknown.

Generation No. 2

2. HENRY2 JAMES (GEORGE1) was born Bef. 1754 in Harrison Co., KY (PA), and died Unknown. He married MARY (POLLY). She was born Bef. 1758 in Harrison Co., KY (PA), and died Unknown.

Child of HENRY JAMES and MARY (POLLY) is:

3. i. JOHN3 JAMES, b. Abt. 1776, Harrison Co., KY (PA); d. June 16, 1855, Little Fork, Carter Co., KY.

Generation No. 3

3. JOHN3 JAMES (HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1776 in Harrison Co., KY (PA), and died June 16, 1855 in Little Fork, Carter Co., KY. He married MARY (POLLY) Abt. 1795. She was born 1773 in Fleming, KY, and died Unknown.

Children of JOHN JAMES and MARY (POLLY) are:

4. i. GEORGE W.4 JAMES, b. September 16, 1791, Fleming Co., KY; d. January 16, 1855, Carter Co., KY.

5. ii. EDWARD JAMES, d. Unknown.

6. iii. BASIL JAMES, b. 1807, KY; d. Unknown.

Generation No. 4

4. GEORGE W.4 JAMES (JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born September 16, 1791 in Fleming Co., KY, and died January 16, 1855 in Carter Co., KY. He married REBECCA ZORNES July 15, 1816 in Greenup, KY, daughter of ANDREW ZORNES and REBECCA LLEWELLYN. She was born 1790 in Pennsylvania, and died Unknown.

Notes for GEORGE W. JAMES:

I have another possible year of George's birth-1797-I'm not certain which is correct, 1791 or 1797.

Notes for REBECCA ZORNES:

I have 2 spellings for Rebecca's maiden name: Zorn and Zornes.

I have 2 years of birth 1790 and 1797. I'm not sure which is correct.

Children of GEORGE JAMES and REBECCA ZORNES are:

7. i. WILLIAM R.5 JAMES, b. March 19, 1817, Tygart, Carter Co., KY; d. February 15, 1881, Near Malvern, AR.

8. ii. JOHN M. JAMES, b. November 20, 1818, Greenup, KY; d. June 09, 1896.

iii. ANDREW J. JAMES, b. 1822; d. February 22, 1904, Carter Co., KY.

More About ANDREW J. JAMES:

Burial: Unknown, Biggs Hill Cemetery, Near Olive Hill, KY

iv. CELIA JAMES, b. Abt. 1828; d. February 15, 1861, Carter Co., KY.

v. GEORGE W. JAMES JR, b. Abt. 1828, KY; d. Unknown.

9. vi. REBECCA L. JAMES, b. September 14, 1831, Carter Co., KY; d. April 21, 1882, Neodesha, KS.

vii. MARY JAMES, b. Abt. 1833; d. Unknown.

viii. FELONA WILENA (PHELENA) JAMES, b. Abt. 1836; d. Unknown.

5. EDWARD4 JAMES (JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) died Unknown. He married PHEBE DUNCAN. She died Unknown.

Child of EDWARD JAMES and PHEBE DUNCAN is:

i. SARAH S.5 JAMES, d. Unknown.

6. BASIL4 JAMES (JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born 1807 in KY, and died Unknown. He married (1) NARCISSA DUNCAN June 17, 1827 in Lawrence Co., KY, daughter of LEROY DUNCAN and AGNES WILLIAMS. She was born 1804 in Facquier Co., VA, and died June 11, 1900. He married (2) FRANCIS EVANS Bef. 1861. She was born in Carter Co., KY, and died Unknown.

Child of BASIL JAMES and NARCISSA DUNCAN is:

i. SARAH5 JAMES, d. Unknown.

Child of BASIL JAMES and FRANCIS EVANS is:

ii. EMMA5 JAMES, b. May 11, 1861, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown; m. REUBEN GARLAND, Bef. 1883; d. Unknown.

Notes for REUBEN GARLAND:

Reuben and Emma James Garland lived in Lawrence Co., KY and then Bell Co., KY. Info received from Brenda at hydenasecret@ on Feb 26, 2000 via Carter Co., KY Query Forum of ()

Generation No. 5

7. WILLIAM R.5 JAMES (GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born March 19, 1817 in Tygart, Carter Co., KY, and died February 15, 1881 in Near Malvern, AR. He married ELIZABETH ROSS October 18, 1836 in Greenup Co., KY, daughter of RICHARD ROSS and ELIZABETH FOWLER. She was born September 18, 1816, and died July 31, 1859 in Near Perry, KS.

Child of WILLIAM JAMES and ELIZABETH ROSS is:

10. i. MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, b. June 25, 1843, Carter Co., KY; d. February 03, 1880, Near Neodesha, KS.

8. JOHN M.5 JAMES (GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born November 20, 1818 in Greenup, KY, and died June 09, 1896. He married (1) ELIZABETH JANE HULL April 17, 1829 in Greenup Co., KY, daughter of JOHN HULL and REBECCA BENNETT. She was born Abt. 1812 in Mason, KY, and died Unknown. He married (2) ELIZABETH JANE JORDAN December 28, 1840. She was born Abt. 1821 in KY, and died Unknown.

More About JOHN M. JAMES:

Burial: Unknown, Maddix Cemetery at Cory, KY

Children of JOHN JAMES and ELIZABETH HULL are:

i. JOHN E. H.6 JAMES, b. Abt. 1832, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

ii. MARINDA J. JAMES, b. Abt. 1834, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

iii. PHEBE A. JAMES, b. Abt. 1836, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

iv. ELIZABETH JAMES, b. Abt. 1839, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

Children of JOHN JAMES and ELIZABETH JORDAN are:

v. WILLIAM J. (1)6 JAMES, b. Abt. 1844, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

vi. WILLIAM J. (2) JAMES, b. Abt. 1845, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

vii. MARTHA E. JAMES, b. Abt. 1846, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

viii. SAMUEL B. JAMES, b. Abt. 1848, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

ix. JAMES P. JAMES, b. Abt. 1851, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

x. MARY R. JAMES, b. September 10, 1855, Barretts Creek, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

xi. CAROLINE C. JAMES, b. July 07, 1857, Carter Co., KY; d. Unknown.

xii. ZERILDA A. JAMES, b. Abt. 1848, KY; d. Unknown.

xiii. GEORGE JAMES, b. Abt. 1852, KY; d. Unknown.

xiv. EDWARD JAMES, b. Abt. 1853, KY; d. Unknown.

xv. MATHIAS JAMES, b. Abt. 1855, KY; d. Unknown.

xvi. MARY A. JAMES, b. Abt. 1857, KY; d. Unknown.

xvii. JAMES JAMES, b. Abt. 1859, KY; d. Unknown.

xviii. CALVIN JAMES, b. Abt. 1863, KY; d. Unknown.

xix. SARAH JAMES, b. Abt. 1865, KY; d. Unknown.

9. REBECCA L.5 JAMES (GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born September 14, 1831 in Carter Co., KY, and died April 21, 1882 in Neodesha, KS. She married REUBEN TRUMAN ROSS September 07, 1848 in Carter Co., KY. He was born September 18, 1822 in KY, and died September 29, 1868 in Neodesha, KS.

More About REBECCA L. JAMES:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, West of Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS

More About REUBEN TRUMAN ROSS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, West of Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS

Child of REBECCA JAMES and REUBEN ROSS is:

i. ABRAHAM6 ROSS, b. September 11, 1859, KY; d. December 01, 1887, Neodesha, KS; m. KATIE; d. Unknown.

More About ABRAHAM ROSS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, West of Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS

Generation No. 6

10. MARGARET ANN6 JAMES (WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born June 25, 1843 in Carter Co., KY, and died February 03, 1880 in Near Neodesha, KS. She married JOHN WESLEY STEPHENS July 27, 1865, son of JOSEPH STEPHENS and ISABELLA WRIGHT. He was born December 24, 1842 in Jackson Co., MO, and died July 26, 1900 in Neodesha, KS.

More About MARGARET ANN JAMES:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

More About JOHN WESLEY STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

Children of MARGARET JAMES and JOHN STEPHENS are:

11. i. SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, b. September 15, 1873, Neodesha, KS; d. August 21, 1961, Neodesha, KS.

ii. STILLBORN INFANT STEPHENS, b. October 06, 1878; d. Unknown.

iii. STILLBORN INFANT STEPHENS, b. January 31, 1880; d. Unknown.

iv. WILLIAM JOSEPH STEPHENS, b. May 06, 1866, Platte Co., MO; d. January 11, 1922, Neodesha, KS; m. IDA MAY TANNAHILL; b. March 05, 1874, Jasper Co., MO; d. September 28, 1932, Neodesha, KS.

Notes for WILLIAM JOSEPH STEPHENS:

William Joseph Stephens is buried in Lot #106 at Ross Cemetery in Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS. The minister who presided at the funeral was George Alfred Brown, and the understaker was H. C. Meineke of Neodesha.

More About WILLIAM JOSEPH STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Notes for IDA MAY TANNAHILL:

Aunt Ida was the one who named William G. and Sarah Isabelle Stephens Black's son, A. Maynard Black, "Albert". Uncle Maynard always hated the name of "Albert" and therefore, always wrote his name as "A. Maynard Black".

Ida May Tannahill Stephens Keller is buried in Lot #106 at Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS. Her 2nd husband, Charles Edward Keller is buried in Lot #107

More About IDA MAY TANNAHILL:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

12. v. GEORGE HENRY STEPHENS, b. April 19, 1869, Platte Co., MO; d. April 24, 1907, Neodesha, KS.

vi. JOHN EDWARD STEPHENS, b. February 23, 1868, Neodesha, KS; d. July 22, 1876, Neodesha, KS.

More About JOHN EDWARD STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Generation No. 7

11. SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS (MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born September 15, 1873 in Neodesha, KS, and died August 21, 1961 in Neodesha, KS. She married WILLIAM GREEN BLACK December 19, 1892 in Neodesha, KS, son of WILLIAM BLACK and NAOMI SURBER. He was born April 18, 1862 in Pulaski Co., KY, and died October 12, 1932 in Neodesha, KS.

More About SARAH ISABELLE STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

More About WILLIAM GREEN BLACK:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

Children of SARAH STEPHENS and WILLIAM BLACK are:

13. i. WILLIAM FRANKLIN8 BLACK, b. November 22, 1896, Neodesha, KS; d. February 27, 1956, Chanute, KS.

14. ii. JOHN JOSEPH BLACK, b. September 12, 1893, Neodesha, KS; d. December 16, 1954, Independence, KS.

iii. (ALBERT) MAYNARD BLACK, b. May 28, 1904, Neodesha, KS; d. February 17, 1997, Neodesha, KS; m. LUELLA JOSEPHINE BATESEL, Private; b. Private.

More About (ALBERT) MAYNARD BLACK:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

12. GEORGE HENRY7 STEPHENS (MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born April 19, 1869 in Platte Co., MO, and died April 24, 1907 in Neodesha, KS. He married CORA BELLE TANNAHILL. She was born April 12, 1876 in Lincoln Co., MO, and died February 23, 1925 in Neodesha, KS.

Notes for GEORGE HENRY STEPHENS:

George Henry Stephens is buried in Lot #100 of Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS. Emmitt Moyer, minister of Neodesha, conducted the services. H. C. Meineke was the undertaker.

More About GEORGE HENRY STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Notes for CORA BELLE TANNAHILL:

Cora Belle Tannahill Stephens is buried in Lot #100 at Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, Wilson Co., KS.

Cora Belle was a housewife and operated a boarding house.

More About CORA BELLE TANNAHILL:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Children of GEORGE STEPHENS and CORA TANNAHILL are:

15. i. STELLA ETHEL8 STEPHENS, b. July 16, 1893, Neodesha, KS; d. December 06, 1963, Neodesha Hospital, Neodesha, KS.

16. ii. BESSIE PEARL STEPHENS, b. April 04, 1895, Neodesha, KS; d. October 29, 1969, Nursing Home, Neodesha, KS.

17. iii. HENRY ALVA STEPHENS, b. July 26, 1902, Neodesha, KS; d. September 19, 1980, Labette County Medical Center, Parsons, KS.

Generation No. 8

13. WILLIAM FRANKLIN8 BLACK (SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born November 22, 1896 in Neodesha, KS, and died February 27, 1956 in Chanute, KS. He married (1) RUIE EDILEE WHEELER November 02, 1921 in Independence, KS. She was born January 17, 1907 in Ava, MO, and died March 15, 1993 in Neodesha, KS. He married (2) THELMA MABLE VERMILLION July 30, 1943 in Independence, KS, daughter of ROBERT VERMILLION and ALMEEDIA MILLS. She was born November 30, 1912 in Coffeyville, KS, and died November 15, 1995 in Topeka, KS.

More About WILLIAM FRANKLIN BLACK:

Burial: February 29, 1956, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

More About RUIE EDILEE WHEELER:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

More About THELMA MABLE VERMILLION:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

Children of WILLIAM BLACK and RUIE WHEELER are:

18. i. BETTY KATHERINE9 BLACK, b. Private.

ii. WILLIAM LOREN BLACK, b. November 07, 1926, Neodesha, KS; d. April 20, 1930, Neodesha, KS.

More About WILLIAM LOREN BLACK:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

iii. BOY BLACK, b. December 04, 1922, Neodesha, KS; d. December 04, 1922, Neodesha, KS.

More About BOY BLACK:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Child of WILLIAM BLACK and THELMA VERMILLION is:

19. iv. JANICE SUE9 BLACK, b. Private.

14. JOHN JOSEPH8 BLACK (SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born September 12, 1893 in Neodesha, KS, and died December 16, 1954 in Independence, KS. He married CORA EDNA WILSON 1918, daughter of JAMES WILSON and JOSEPHINE BOND. She was born November 02, 1899, and died February 19, 1999 in Norwich, KS.

More About JOHN JOSEPH BLACK:

Burial: Unknown, Orig. Neodesha City..Moved to Rest Haven, Wichita, KS

More About CORA EDNA WILSON:

Burial: Unknown, Rest Haven Cemetery, Wichita, KS

Children of JOHN BLACK and CORA WILSON are:

20. i. VERA MAXINE9 BLACK, b. December 04, 1918, Neodesha, KS; d. April 10, 2000, Salina, KS.

21. ii. JUANITA BLACK, b. Private.

15. STELLA ETHEL8 STEPHENS (GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born July 16, 1893 in Neodesha, KS, and died December 06, 1963 in Neodesha Hospital, Neodesha, KS. She married ERSKINE E. BELSCAMPER. He died Unknown.

Notes for STELLA ETHEL STEPHENS:

Erskine Belscamper was Stella's 2nd husband.

More About STELLA ETHEL STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Child of STELLA STEPHENS and ERSKINE BELSCAMPER is:

22. i. LUCILLE9 BELSCAMPER, b. Private.

16. BESSIE PEARL8 STEPHENS (GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born April 04, 1895 in Neodesha, KS, and died October 29, 1969 in Nursing Home, Neodesha, KS. She married (1) LLOYD BAILEY. He died Unknown. She married (2) DAN ELAM July 29, 1909. He died Unknown. She married (3) ROY CARNEY June 03, 1914. He died Unknown. She married (4) JESSE S. COSTNER Private. He was born Private.

More About BESSIE PEARL STEPHENS:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetary, Neodesha, Kansas

Children of BESSIE STEPHENS and DAN ELAM are:

i. LOUIS9 ELAM, b. Private.

ii. LOUISE ELAM, b. Private.

17. HENRY ALVA8 STEPHENS (GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born July 26, 1902 in Neodesha, KS, and died September 19, 1980 in Labette County Medical Center, Parsons, KS. He married PEARL GRACE FREW Private, daughter of FRANKLIN FREW and CARRIE GROESBECK. She was born Private.

Notes for HENRY ALVA STEPHENS:

H. A. Stephens' nickname was "Steve". Steve was a professional actor and musician and later a police officer in Parsons, KS. He had a band that played for the inauguration of a Kansas Governor. More research needed to develop this.

Children of HENRY STEPHENS and PEARL FREW are:

i. MARJORIE DELORES9 STEPHENS, b. June 19, 1930, 819 N. 26th St. Parsons, KS; d. August 25, 1943, Wichita Hospital, Wichita, KS.

Notes for MARJORIE DELORES STEPHENS:

Marjorie was a student at West Jr. High School in Parsons, KS. She contracted Polio in 1943 and died. I have a copy of the newspaper article. (Jan Lopez)

23. ii. NORMAN EUGENE STEPHENS, b. Private.

24. iii. MAX VERNON STEPHENS, b. Private.

Generation No. 9

18. BETTY KATHERINE9 BLACK (WILLIAM FRANKLIN8, SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. She married WARREN B. PIATT Private, son of JOHN PIATT and BERNICE MILLER. He was born October 30, 1915 in Neodesha, KS, and died April 03, 1991 in Neodesha, KS.

More About WARREN B. PIATT:

Burial: Unknown, Ross Cemetery, Neodesha, KS

Child of BETTY BLACK and WARREN PIATT is:

25. i. SHARON KAY10 PIATT, b. Private.

19. JANICE SUE9 BLACK (WILLIAM FRANKLIN8, SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. She married MIGUEL LOPEZ-MARTE Private, son of MIGUEL LOPEZ-JAIME and EVA MARTES. He was born Private.

Children of JANICE BLACK and MIGUEL LOPEZ-MARTE are:

i. MARCUS MARTE10 LOPEZ, b. Private; m. JANESSA LEIGH CONROW, Private; b. Private.

ii. SHAWN MICHAEL LOPEZ, b. Private; m. ROBIN MICHELLE BOND, Private; b. Private.

iii. KRISTOPHER SCOTT LOPEZ, b. Private.

20. VERA MAXINE9 BLACK (JOHN JOSEPH8, SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born December 04, 1918 in Neodesha, KS, and died April 10, 2000 in Salina, KS. She married JAMES CARL KILGORE. He died February 16, 1990 in Pretty Prairie, KS.

More About VERA MAXINE BLACK:

Burial: April 14, 2000, Rest Haven Cemetery, Wichita, KS

More About JAMES CARL KILGORE:

Burial: February 20, 1990, Rest Haven Cemetery, Wichita, KS

Children of VERA BLACK and JAMES KILGORE are:

i. JAMES D.10 KILGORE, b. Private.

ii. SHARON NOREEN KILGORE TIPPIE, b. Private.

21. JUANITA9 BLACK (JOHN JOSEPH8, SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. She married EDWIN ALEXIS THOMPSON Private, son of ALEXIS THOMPSON and VERA GREEN. He was born 1921, and died September 12, 1998 in Wichita, KS.

Children of JUANITA BLACK and EDWIN THOMPSON are:

i. CAROLYN K.10 THOMPSON, b. Private; m. ? MITCHELL, Private; b. Private.

ii. GARY K. THOMPSON, b. Private.

iii. DAVID L. THOMPSON, b. Private.

iv. CYNTHIA M. THOMPSON, b. Private; m. ? BARE, Private; b. Private.

v. MICHAEL K. THOMPSON, b. Private.

22. LUCILLE9 BELSCAMPER (STELLA ETHEL8 STEPHENS, GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. She married ? CLAYTON Private. He was born Private.

Child of LUCILLE BELSCAMPER and ? CLAYTON is:

i. KENNY LOU10 CLAYTON, b. Private.

23. NORMAN EUGENE9 STEPHENS (HENRY ALVA8, GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. He married JOYCE MARIE BOLINGER Private. She was born Private.

Children of NORMAN STEPHENS and JOYCE BOLINGER are:

26. i. MICHAEL ALAN10 STEPHENS, b. Private.

27. ii. JAMES VERNON STEPHENS, b. Private.

24. MAX VERNON9 STEPHENS (HENRY ALVA8, GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. He married KAY ANN CANTRELL Private. She was born Private.

Children of MAX STEPHENS and KAY CANTRELL are:

i. GAYLE LOUISE10 STEPHENS, b. Private; m. MICHAEL JOSEPH HERMAN, Private; b. Private.

ii. LESLEY ELAINE STEPHENS, b. Private.

Generation No. 10

25. SHARON KAY10 PIATT (BETTY KATHERINE9 BLACK, WILLIAM FRANKLIN8, SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. She married (1) RICHARD GENTRY Private, son of WILLIAM GENTRY and JUANITA. He was born Private. She married (2) WAYNE JAMES RHODES Private, son of JAMES RHODES and DELORES STRAWN. He was born Private.

Child of SHARON PIATT and RICHARD GENTRY is:

28. i. PATRICIA BOBETTE11 GENTRY, b. Private.

26. MICHAEL ALAN10 STEPHENS (NORMAN EUGENE9, HENRY ALVA8, GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. He married KATHY BRUEGGEMEIER Private. She was born Private.

Children of MICHAEL STEPHENS and KATHY BRUEGGEMEIER are:

i. STEPHANEE JOY11 STEPHENS, b. Private.

ii. MATTHEW EDWARD STEPHENS, b. Private.

27. JAMES VERNON10 STEPHENS (NORMAN EUGENE9, HENRY ALVA8, GEORGE HENRY7, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. He married PAM COLMAN Private. She was born Private.

Children of JAMES STEPHENS and PAM COLMAN are:

i. COLMAN JAMES11 STEPHENS, b. Private.

ii. KYLE MICHAEL STEPHENS, b. Private.

Generation No. 11

28. PATRICIA BOBETTE11 GENTRY (SHARON KAY10 PIATT, BETTY KATHERINE9 BLACK, WILLIAM FRANKLIN8, SARAH ISABELLE7 STEPHENS, MARGARET ANN6 JAMES, WILLIAM R.5, GEORGE W.4, JOHN3, HENRY2, GEORGE1) was born Private. She married LYNN LEE LITTAU Private. He was born Private.

Children of PATRICIA GENTRY and LYNN LITTAU are:

i. JAICEY LINN12 LITTAU, b. Private.

ii. MEGAN RAE LITTAU, b. Private.

From: "Jan Lopez" | Block address

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: JAMES/ZORNES/ROSS

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:37:34 -0600

John:

I noticed the Piatt's in your file, and I even commented when talking withmy sister last night about the name. I looked carefully at your materialand aside from the fact that your's was a John Piatt, I couldn't see howthere is a connection....of course, you know, all is not known yet.As far as I know, the Piatt's have not traced their history, but Betty'shusband, Warren, was one of 3 sons born to John Piatt and Berniece MillerPiatt of Neodesha, Wilson County, KS in the early 1900's. From my memory, itseems that the Piatt's were in Labette Co., KS as well as Neosho Co., KS inaddition to Wilson Co., KS. Aside from that, I don't know at this time. Iwill try to find out more information from my sister, but whether she knowsor not remains to be seen. All the Piatt's in Warren's line are gone now,and nearly all the Miller's in Berniece's are gone as well. I think thereare a few Miller cousins left still, but whether they would know anythingabout the Piatt's origin or not, I don't know. Maybe Betty has someoriginal documents regarding Warren's father's family. I'll check with herto see and get back with you on that.After reading your charts last night, I got back online and did more Jamessearching on Rootsweb. I did come up with some fragments of information,but am not certain where or if they fit. I think what needs to be done hereis something more systematic. Hopefully, I can do some of this Kansasresearch this year, and again, hopefully, it will lend me some clues to theKY and VA connections. Thank you for all your help. I can use all I canget.Jan

----- Original Message -----

From: John Grace

To: Jan Lopez

Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:11 PM

Subject: Re: JAMES/ZORNES/ROSS

> Jan, thanks for the info on the James family. As I was> reading through it, a name caught my attention. You> have a BETTY KATHERINE BLACK who married WARREN B.> PIATT. The Piatt name is rare, but also appears in my> 2nd gr. grandfather's family. His name was John Nelson> Ross, and named his first son, born in 1840, John> PIATT Ross. As you can see by my Ross chart, we don't> know the parents of John Nelson Ross, but I have a> strong suspicion that her name was Piatt. I'm a little> curious about where the family of your Warren B. Piatt> originated. Probably nothing to it, but quite a> coincidence, never the less.> John

From: "Jan Lopez" | Block address

To: "John Grace"

Subject: PIATT

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:54:30 -0600

John:

I talked with my sister, Betty Black Piatt, last night, and she says thatshe has a PIATT book. She gave me a few generations back. The last 3generations of this line of Piatt's were born and raised inKansas.....Neosho, Labette and Wilson Counties. The last generation beingSharon Piatt, then my sister's husband, Warren Piatt, next was Warren'sfather, John Piatt. John was born in 1878 in Neosho Co., KS and died 1962in Wilson Co., KS. The next generation back, Jacob Piatt, was born in 1839in Indiana and died in 1914 in Neosho Co., KS. The next back, James Piatt,was born in 1814 in Ohio and died in 1891 in Neosho Co., KS. The next back,Jacob Piatt, I am waiting to hear from her as to where he was born and died.So far, we haven't seen anything from Kentucky in this Piatt line, but shehasn't made it all the way back yet either in the book. Also, I haven'tseen any of the children's names other than our direct line....a ROSS mightshow up there somewhere. The next trip to Betty's, I plan to look at thePiatt book and take some notes. Maybe I'll have a clearer picture of thefamily after that.

1 1/2 yrs ago when we were in Somerset, KY, visiting, we saw a contractor'struck with the name PIATT on it. It came as a surprise to see the name,especially with that spelling. Apparently, Piatt originally was spelledPyot and other variations. Apparently, this book that Betty has gets backto the 1500's at least in reference.TTYLJan

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War: American Revolution

State (resided or served): KY

Rank: Pvt.

Unit or Regiment: VA Line

Date of Pension (or Application): 24 Dec 12833

Age: 79

Pension Awarded: 38.44

County: FLEMING

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Subject: RE: Burnett photo

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:37:09 -0500

From: pp01406@ppp.kcc.edu

To: jwgrace@

Hi John,

I received a call from a friend today that had just discovered the pic of Boss posted to the Carter County web page. I explained how you had worked a miracle in contacting Avanell and that you had supplied the pic. Have you heard anymore from her?

My friend and I are thinking of trying once again to contact her and

possibly trying to get her to let us visit her. She could fill in so many blanks if she would talk with us. Do you have any suggestions?

Again, thanks seem so little for such a treasure as the pic you graciously shared.

Sherry Lowe

Grayson, Kentucky

-----Original Message-----

From: John Grace [SMTP:jwgrace@]

Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 7:07 PM

To: Garrett and Sherry Lowe

Subject: Burnett photo

Sherry, I just received a letter and some photos from Avanell Burnett. Thechildren in the picture are Avanell (looks to be less than a year old) andVivian. I would guess the picture was taken in the spring of 1912. Can youconfirm that these are their parents in the picture? The info I have is thatAmanda died about 1912, so this may be one of the last pictures of her (if itis her). John

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Posted by: Patti Campbell Date: August 08, 2000 at 15:59:37

In Reply to: Sarah Alice Cambell & Jeremiah Jacob Hunt Ross, Ky & Oh. by John W. Grace of 8806

I am the ggggranddaughter of sarah johnson campbell and Thomas Jefferson Campbell. I know a lot about this family and there is still some granddaughter of Thomas Jefferson Campbell around, I even have picture of some on my album in unter tackett I am related twice to TJ Campbell though his first marriage to emza Zorns and through his last marrage Sarah Johnson. which I also have a picture of. Henry willis one there children is my great great grandfather. through his marriage to racheal rodisa tackett. who was grandmother was the first daughter with emza any info I'll share my e-mail is petpet1@

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From: JROY6666@ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:05:58 EST Subject: Re: John Henson D.C. To: jwgrace99@

Hi John: So glad to hear from you. I know absolutely nothing about My grandfather Hensons people except what I told you and the names I found in an old letter. Also, my grandfather (Papa Henson) use to tell me things and once I wrote them down...age 8 years old, I still have this, spelling terrible, ha. I had an Aunt Filorie, my grandfather told me she was named after his Mother. He had a cousin Francis Grinshaw or Crinshaw who use to write the family. I have one letter from her in the 30's. When we would ask questions about his family we were always told, we never saw any of them and don't know anything about them. He came down here in the l890-l899 and at that time they were building lock 6 on the Tenn. river. He came down with a Mr. Lewis or Louis who was a life long friend. Thomas is the brother I mentioned, Would you believe my Grandmother on the maternal side name was Frona Carolyn, my mother Frona Carolyn, I am Mary Carolyn. Mother hated the name Frona as they called her Fronie. I am as I told you disorganized just wanted to touch base with you this morning and I will try and find what I have today and send tonight. I would love to know about my Hensons. My grandfather was a wonderful person they had 9 children as seemed was fashionable then. ha He always worked for the government on the river. In Killen, Ala. a museum and Sam Henson was one of the early settlers.I have donated what little I have. I must learn more about this computer I could send you a picture if I knew how.....will try and get someone to help me. Thanks so very much for any info. I know his family lived on Jackson street in Portsmouth and My Uncle Sam took him back to Ohio once during the 30's and they visited an Uncle that lived in the hills as a hermit. My Uncle was in the Coast Guards and told me he found some cousins once in Indiana. All of these nine children except 3 lived to be 88 and 89. My uncle John fell 36 feet to his death (Ironworker) Aunt Filorie went into an ashma attact when she saw Aunt Mary was dying, we buried both in 4 days. Uncle George (retired from Marines) died at 76 cancer. All had long lives and I must say all of our family are wonderful people. I'll look up that letter today.Carolyn (Did you see where I found the John Grace in Ga. in the early l800's)

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From: "Michael Tabor" To: Subject: ANother try on the Tabors Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:33:59 -0500

Hi John,I have resaved the filed I tried to send in Rich Text format and will sent them again. Let me know if all this works out.According to a query I printed from Sherry J. Lowe, Jasper F. Tabor who married Martha J. Henderson was the son of Lauderdale Lane Tabor & Permelia Stamper. Lauderdale in the the attachment for Basil Moab Tabor as one of Basil's sons. Let me bug you some more about Stephen L. Tabor. Did Sarah Matilda remain in Carter County after James death? I cannot find the family after 1850, just wonder if you knew where they were? Also you mention Stephen L. in the 1900 Census; where was he then?? I copied the soundex index for the Tabors in Carter COunty and don't find him. Did I overlook him?Thanks for sharingAll My Best,Michael Tabor

From: "Michael Tabor" To: "John Grace" Subject: More on Stephen Tabor Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:11:08 -0500

Hi John,Yesterday I went to the Ball State University which is 1/2 hour from where I live. They have a good collection of the census records to 1900. I searched for what I could find on Stephen. This is what I found:

1) I still could not find Stephen or his mother Sarah Matilda & children in the 1860 KY census

2) I found Matilda Tabor (age 40, b. VA) and son Stephen (age 19, b. VA) in 1870 Elliott COunty Census. THey were next to Eli Tabor (age 21, b. KY) and wife Lavina with no children. Stephen's age is about right but Sarah Matilda's age is off.

3) In 1880 Elliott County Census, I found SARAH M. TABOR (age 60, b. VA) in the home of Lavinia Tabor who was a widow by then. Eli or Elihu must have died.

In the same census, I also found listed:

Page 631D -- family 148, household 148

Stephen Tabor age 29, b. KY

Mary E. Tabor, age 33, b. KY, wife

Charles A. Tabor, age 8, b. KY, son

Arminta Tabor, age 7, b. KY, daughter

Nancy J. Tabor, age 5, b. KY, daughter

David J. Tabor, age 3, b. KY, son

Franklin L. Tabor, age 6/12 b. Nov of last year, b. KY, son

4) I also found Stephen L. Tabor with wife Lottie in the 1900 census but I think you may have this. The census indicates they were married 14 years in 1900 (about 1886).

I don't how much of this you already have or want. If you want copies of the census, let me know and I copy and send by snailmail. I have tried scanning this type of document and it doesn't seen to work very well when I Email them.Hope some this helps.All My Best,Michael Tabor

From: "Michael Tabor" To: Subject: Tabors in Carter COunty Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:39:28 -0500

Hi John,

I saw your query at about Stephen Tabor. Now I am not a living relative of Stephen and Mary. I am a descendant of STephen's great-uncle, Daniel Tabor. Daniel was my gg grandfather and a brother to James' father Stephen. I have researched the Tabor family for more than 35 years and am still collecting info about the various branches of the Tabor family.I wrote to see if you can help me and if I can be helpful to you.

I have accumlated some info about James & Sarah Matilda's family, but I don't know about Stephen who married Mary Elizaebth Ross. I recently found a birth record on the USGenWeb site for Carter County showing a Franklin P. Tabor born to James and Sarah on 15 July 1853 in Carter County. Could this be Stephen?? Maybe it is Franklin "S". misread Franklin "P."

Also in thr 1900 Carter COunty Census Index there was a Frank Tabor (born June 1853 in KY) and wife Mary (born Sept. 1857 in VA) with children all born in KY: Uneva (born 1877), James (b. 1878), Temple (b. Oct 1880), Mable (b. 1882), Cora (b. 1885), Roy (b. 1889), Alice (b. 1892), Many (b. 1895), and Norman (b. 1898).

Also I can send you my FGS on the families of James & Sarah Tabor or his parents, Stephen & Anna Tabor, if you want. Let me know. All My Best,

Michael TaborHartford City, IN

From: "Michael Tabor" To: Subject: James Tabor of carter COunty Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:37:31 -0500

Hi JohnThanks for the new info on Franklin Pierce Tabor. I had found the birth record but you've helped me fit it into the family design. I have included as an attachment my FGS on James and Matilda. It was saved as rich text. I have also included as attachments my FGS on Basil Moab Tabor (b. about 1799 in VA) and Robert Tabor who died in 1855 in Carter County. Also do you know that John B. GIlbert married Sarah Tabor in 1815 in Tazewell COunty, VA, and then moved to Carter COunty. They were Tabors also.If you find you can't open it let me know and I will send a copy by snail mail. If you can help me fill in any blanks on any of these families, please help.

I am still confused about Stephen L. Tabor place as a child of James & Sarah Matilda Tabor. If Franklin was born in 1853, how could Stephen be born the same year unless they were twins??

All My Best,Michael Tabor601 E. Perkins StreetHartford City, IN 47348

From: "Michael Tabor" |To: "Teresa Brown" , "Sylvia Jensen" , "Sid Johnston" , "Rose Mary Robinson" , "RObert J Tabor" , "Phyllis Ann Tabor" , "Penny Fraley Richardson" , "Nolan Tabor" , "Merl Tabor" , "MARY ELKINS" , "Karen Eagle Moman" , "John Grace" , "James Lawson" , "Gary Peacock" , "Fred Taber" , Fossilhund@, "Erin and Marc Meszaros" , DyeJane@, "Doug Flummer" , "Dottie Blankenship" , "donovan Epling" , "Dick Prince" , "Debra D. Copley" , "Debbie :-)" , "davis family" , "Cheryl Brown" , "Albert K. Ruble" , "Mary Tabor" , "Geraldine Meyer" , "plasher" , "Tina Tabor" Subject: Tabors of Montgomery & Russell Counties. Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:35:47 -0500

Hi All,I am doing this as a mass Emailing to share with all of you some things I have recently found regarding the Tabors in Montgomery and Russell Counties, VA. Over the last year or so I have been studying the records of both of those counties hoping to find some clue as to origins of the Tabors in southwest Virginia. All I had found until the last two weeks was a reference in Russell County Court Order Books in 1805 showing a claim against the ESTATE of William Tabor indicating that the Russell County William Tabor had died in that year since he served on a jury earlier in the same year. This is on the USGenWeb site for Russell County.

Recently I have been examining microfilm of the Montgomery and Russell Counties personal property tax lists beginning in 1787 on interlibrary loan from the Library of Virginia. These records have answered two questions which we have pondered for years:

1) Was the Nelly Tabor who appeared in the 1810 Montgomery County census the same person as Nancy [Fraley] Tabor, wife of William Tabor of Russell County?

2) Was William Tabor found in Russell and Montgomery Counties the same person?

After examining the personal property records I believe the answer to both is "NO."

Beginning in 1787 and continuing until 1803 William Tabor had a presence EACH year in Montgomery County personal property tax records.

William Tabor, Jr., was listed in the same records in 1792, 1793, and 1795.

Archibald Tabor was found in the same tax lists 1791 through 1796.

There was no Tabors listed until 1796 in Russell County. Then in that year William Tabor (Jr.) disappeared from Montgomery County and appeared in Russell County personal property tax list and continued there each year through 1805 (except 1797). And in 1797 Archibald and Robert Tabor appeared in Russell County but without WiIliam. Both Archibald and Robert Tabor disappear from the Russell County tax list in 1799.

With the Russell County William Tabor's death in 1805, the Tabor presence ends in Russell County tax records until Jesse Tabor appeared there in 1817 (only one year) and Basil Moab Tabor appeared in 1823 and continued on.

When William Tabor of Montgomery County no longer appeared in the tax list in 1804, Nelly Tabor was listed there that same year and in the same district. She continued in Montgomery County in 1805, 1807, and 1809 (there were no records in 1808). Joining Nelly Tabor in Montgomery county were John Tabor in 1805, James in 1806, and Stephen in 1810. This same Nelly was listed in the 1810 Montgomery County Census and the 1813 Tazewell County personal property tax list. No Tabors were found in the 1813 Montgomery County tax list but Jacob and Archibald Tabor were listed beginning in 1814.

Now I don't know if you have been able to follow all this but I have put it together on a parallel chart with other records which I can send to you by snailmail. If you are interested let me know and reconfirm your snailmail address.

I have ordered the Montgomery County land tax records beginning in 1782 and will let you know if I find more about the Tabors.

But as I look at what the personal property tax lists reveal about the Tabors in southwest VA, here are some of my personal conclusions at this time (which of course are subject to change as new info surfaces):

1. I would appear that Nelly Tabor was the widow of the William Tabor who came to Montgomery County, VA, no later than the 1780's. The 1810 Montgomery County Census shows Nelly was older than 45 years old, placing her birth before 1765.

2. The William Tabor who ended up in Russell County was William Tabor, Jr., who was probably born about 1771 (since he first appeared on the tax list in 1792 usually at age 21) and married Nancy Fraley. He was followed there by his brothers Archibald and Robert Tabor.

3. I think that Archibald, William, Jr., Robert, John, James, and Stephen were the children of the older William and Nelly Tabor. They probably had daughters too but no clue as to who they were.

4. I think the younger children -- Daniel (my gg grandfather), Jesse, Sarah, Basil Moab, Francis, Amy, and Richard Adam -- MIGHT HAVE BEEN the children of William & Nancy [Fraley] Tabor of Russell County. The one thing that leads me to this idea is the importance of Russell County in many of these children's lives --- Daniel Tabor married a local Tazewell County girl (Mary Martha Flummer) but was married in Russell County; Jesse appeared in the 1817 Russell County personal property tax list; Basil Moab married Nancy Jackson a Russell County girl and moved there until leaving for Carter County, KY; Amy married James Jackson a Russell County guy and moved there; Sarah married John B. Gilbert who may have been a Russell County guy and lived there 1816-1819 before moving to Tazewell COunty, VA, then on to Carter County, KY.

What drew them to Russell County which is WEST of Tazewell County when the Tabors lived in the EASTERN extreme of Tazewell County ??? I think it was their mother Nancy [Fraley] Tabor who was still living as late as 1823 when she was mentioned in Cloe Fraley's (her mother) will in Russell County. I cannot find Nancy Tabor in Russell County personal property tax lists up to 1832 but she may have stayed with the Fraley family in Russell County after his husband's death in 1805. She may have also sent her children to live with their Tabor relatives who were first in Montgomery County and later in Tazewell County. This was not unusual especially when she maybe had as many as 7 children and no land or means of supporting her family.

Now it might be that some of these younger children belonged to William & Nelly and some to William & Nancy but there does seem to be a gap between Stephen's birth about 1787 and Daniel's birth in 1794. Also notice that if William Tabor of Montgomery County died in late 1803/early 1804 then he could not have been the father of Richard Adam born about 1806 but William Tabor of Russell County who died in 1805 could have been. Unfortunately many of the early Russell County records including Marriage Book 1 were destroyed in a court house fire so we cannot determine the exact year of William Tabor and Nancy Fraley's marriage.

Well I dumped a lot on you and I hope you have been able to follow all this. I know there are still some gaps in the evidence but I believe we have more to consider than we've had before. Let me know what you think. I would love to hear your reactions to what I shared and my conclusions. Please let me know. Also please let me know that you've received this Email because some of my outgoing Emails seem to get lost.

All My Best,Michael Tabormtabor@

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Subject: Fw: Edward Fitzpatrick Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:48:01 -0700 From: concho@ To: JUDYRN@, jwgrace@, susannoel@, MFitzie@, deanhickmn@ CC: chrisbarttels@

Hi Chris and everyone,Sorry this took so long to forward, I had a ton of email messages I was trying to get through. Chris this should give you the email addresses of our fellow researchers! If I missed anyone, please forward on and copy Chris.

Gerry

From: Chris Barttels To: concho@ Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:35 PMSubject: Edward Fitzpatrick

Hi Gerry,

Thought you would be interested in this conversation I've been having with Lori Smith, a descendant of Edward Fitzpatrick.

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Fitzpatrick's Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:03:38 -0600

Hello, I came across your entry on rootsweb for George Fitzpatrick wife Ann Pennock. I am told they are the parents of my Edward Fitzpatrick born March 24 1855 in Jackson Co Ohio. I did not see his name in the list of children for George. Do you have any information that could help me prove or disprove this. Thank you Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Fitzpatrick'sDate: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:04:38 -0600

Hello. Here are the few facts I have on my Edward Fitzpatrick.

Edward Fitzpatrick born March 24 1855 Jackson Co OH

married April 6 1879 Mercer Co MO Louisa Barb

died August 1 1922 Benton Co MO

buried Mt Pleasant Cem. Benton Co MO

Children:

Sylvester Henry born Feb 1 1880 Mercer Co MO

Wilford Arthur born Oct 22 1881 Harrison Co MO

Robert George born Dec 26 1883 Harrison Co MO

Jessie May born May 1 1889 Mercer Co MO

Letter dated January 3 1967 written by Jake Fitzpatrick sent to Elsie (Fitzpatrick) McCall he tells about a trip taken with his father Jacob Fitzpatrick and stepmother Frances, with them was his first cousin Edward Fitzpatrick and his wife Louisa and their children Henry, George and Jessie. This trip took place in 1903 and they traveled to Osawatamie KS. In 1904 Edward and Louisa settled in Olpe Kansas and remained for 15 years. I don't know if the Jacob Fitzpatrick returned to MO or stayed in KS. In 1919 Edward and Louisa moved to Benton Co MO with son George and family.

Death certificate for Edward was filled out by son George who did not know the name of Edward's father. I am told the mother's name is on it but my grandmother has misplaced it at present. I'll probably have to send for another copy.

Kathy Fitzpatrick who does lookups in Jackson Co OH and researches the Fitzpatrick name is the one who told me his father was George Fitzpatrick and his mother a Pennock.So you see I have little to go on at present. Any direction you could give would be greatly appreciated. Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Edward FitzpatrickDate: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:36:54 -0600

Hello. Thank you for the information on the Fitzpatrick line. Finally found out the death certificate of Edward Fitzpatrick list no father and the mother as Miram McKinney. After looking through you website I saw that the Miram Fitzpatrick you had listed married a McKinney. I'm not ready to settle on this yet though. The 1860 census in Mercer Co Mo doesn't list an Edward Fitzpatrick at all that I have seen. So I wonder where he was? Just thought I would pass on what I found since it is part of your line of Fitzpatricks. Thanks again. Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Fitzpatrick'sDate: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:27:40 -0600

Hello. We spoke last week of Edward Fitzpatrick and the possibility of Miram Fitzpatrick being his mother. I haven't learned any more there but I have found something on the Casander Barb you mentioned. David Barb married Cassandra Fitzpatrick Ellsworth. David Barb was the father of Louisa Elizabeth Barb who married Edward Fitzpatrick. My Grandmother tells me Casander and her Ellsworth husband had children but there were no children between she and David Barb. The picture I have of David and Casander shows she is somewhat younger than he. My Grandmother is being very sketchy with her information on this family. I thought this might help if you were still trying to find out the Barb-Fitzpatrick connection. Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: "Chris Barttels" Subject: Re: Miram Fitzpatrick in 1860 Mercer MO CensusDate: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:38:38 -0600

Ok. Here is what I have managed to learn from my Grandmother. Casander (Cassandra) Barb is buried in Hamilton Cem. in Mercer Co. MO as is David Barb and his first wife Mary Susannah Hamilton. The story from a great granddaughter of David Barb, Bernadine, who lives in that area is that the headstones are missing except for David Barbs and his has been moved from it's original location. Bernadine has placed flat markers on the actual graves of David and Mary but not on Casander's. I have seen the census record for the Ellsworth's that you speak of, there is no Edward. So my curiosity is peaked as to where he was then. I saw the will information you had on your website. If I'm not mistaken Casander was still a Fitzpatrick at that time. That might help to narrow the marriage date for her and the Ellsworth. My best guess on the death place for Miram would be Osawatamie which is in Miami Co Ks or Olpe which is in Lyon Co KS. She must have been Edwards only reason for going there since the year she died he returned to MO. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner but I will see if my Aunt does and send it from there. Maybe we will come up with some answers soon. Lori

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Anyway, that's where we are up to now. You may want to pass this on to our fellow family researchers. I had a major crash a few months ago, and lost all my email addresses, so yours is the only one I have. If you get the chance email me the addresses of those you know who are working on Jeremiah's descendants. Thanks.

As you can see from the above, this pretty much confirms what I have

thought, Edward being the son of Miram, and not of George and Ann.

Take care and I'll keep you informed on what's going on.

Chris Barttels

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From: con-air90@ (conry)Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:59:41 -0600 (CST) To: jwgrace99@ (John Grace), p_conry@ Subject: Re: hi custers

this is interesting----- my husband is ;

sheldon l conry,b 1-26-1923 in rusk co wi.

his dad was clarence conry,b;3-6-1888 in brenard minn.d12-31-1972 in wi.

sp; alma lamyra applebee,b;10-2-1900 in rusk co wi.d; 4-11-1993 in ladysmith wi.

clarence conrys dad was;myron w conryb;1861 in wi.d; 1927 in rusk co wi. burried in bruce wi.

m;1-25-1884,myrastella florence custer,b; 11-29-1861 in dane co wi.d; 1945 in rusk co wiburried at bruce wi.

myristillas parents were;

james william custer,b;1-3-1834m;12-11-1856sp; gertrude van buren,

james william custers parents were;

jesse custer,b; 1800 in ky.;d;abt 1833

m;4-1-1830sp; nancy spurgeonb2-22-1802 ky.,

jesses parents were;

arnold custer ,b;4-29-1755 in shenandoah valley va.d; 5-14-1840.he was married to elizabeth school.arnold was a revolutionary soldior, settled in belliview,jefferson

co,in.with 4 sons in1814. sp; rebecca.

it states that george was the son of ;arnold and rebecca,george was born abt 1705 m; mary rhodes 6-28-1731it also states here that;arnold was the son of paulus custer,so you see their is some right throug here that i dont realy understandeither;i hope you can tell somthing more than i can. Good LuckPhyllis

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:09:43 -0500 To: jwgrace99@ From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." Subject: Marie, the McGees and others named

Hi again, John -Probably the box of Marie's things held by Margaret McKee, mother of

NancyMcKee will yield the most information next week. Nancy mentioned thatthere should be several legal pieces of paper in it. If I get to see it,I'll set aside things like birth certificates, marriage licenses, etc. andsee if Nancy will go up the street with me to xc them. I think she will.I'm hoping also for a photo or two. Nancy McKee sounds really helpful.I'll expect to get onto all of this by Wednesday. Have to go to Columbustomorrow to see my oncologist. On Tuesday, we have to keep ourgranddaughter, Mollie Mae (6), all day because her kdgn. is dismissed forteachers' inservice.There is a McKee cemetery (exact location unknown), but it's supposed to bea small one very near the Scioto/Lawrence county line on State Rt. 52 here. It's in Hamilton Twp., which is Lawrence County - I assume on an oldfamily farm long deserted. It might have some graves not only of theMcKees but also of some of your related surnames. Just a thought.More later...Nancy

Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:47:51 -0400 To: jwgrace99@ From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." |Subject: Hi Teach!

Well, John, how's the teaching going? Unless you're in a private school,you've probably already found out that it's a jungle every day and a thankless job. The only teaching I enjoyed was college work.Around here, the public schools are in dire straits. Anyhow, I'm sure youhave a lot to contribute and hopefully your assignment is a good one. We're going to Purdue Univ. this weekend to see Garrison Keillor's show.Plans are complete for our 50th wedding anniv. celebration on April 28. Since we had no cake nor reception and left town for Norfolk, VA with$44.00 in l951, we're going for the "whole 9 yards" this time! I needed a kidney stent implanted in Feb. due to a new pelvic mass constricting kidney flow, so I haven't had the best time this past winter. Hope summer is better. Must run now...chat with you later! Say Hi to Johnny for us.

With love and prayers, Nancy and Bob

Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 13:04:15 -0400 To: jwgrace99@ From: "Robert and Nancy Barnett Sr." | Subject: Are you the California John?

Hi John, I saw your posting on the Carter Co. KY board. Are you the same John Grace we met a few years back from California? If so, send us an update on yourself.Nancy & Bob Barnett, Ironton, OH

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From: "lee goss" To: "John Grace" Subject: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:51:31 -0500

sent you the file on Edith Tennant. to YOUR E-MAIL. They woun't let me share the file. Letha

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From: "Eddie L. Shearer" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Campbell genealogy Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:31:26 -0500

John,Here is some of what I have on our Campbell's. A little background on me . Ilive in Scioto County,Ohio, and have done so all my life. My parents bothwere born in KY. I live about 45 min from Oldtown, KY which is where some ofour Campbell's and Virgins hail from. There are 3 different Campbellcemeteries and a couple of houses still standing.The Ironton Connection. John Campbell, Ironmaster , founded the city ofIronton, His photo closely resembles those of our Campbell relatives.Ironton . I have yet prove a connection. But he lived in the Adams/Brown co,Ohio area on his father's farm, about the same time our Campbells lived inthe same area. I have also attached some Virgin family information. For theCampbell Book, you can contact Pat Kratz at KKratz@ . Lookingforward to hearing from you.Eddie

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Subject: Re: Ephraim Boring, Margaret S. Willis offspring To: John Grace From: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:08:39 -0500

The last memo I sent you was right. She was apparently married about 1866to a man named Estler. That is assuming Margaret Willis is Margaret Leak.Widows in need do desperate things. First time is for love. Somewhereafter that is companionship. My widowed grandmother married an older man.

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From: "james_25724" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:08:55 -0700

hi john yes you can send me additional info to me my address is 3111 w college st apt 23 grand island ne 68803 loretta jessop (sent March 2001)

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:28:59 EST From: DeanHickmn@ Subject: Ephraim Boring and Margaret Willis To: CC: , , ,

I have found one more child for the Ephraim Boring-Margaret Willis marriage and this should be the last one...

"Boring, Stephen Jenkins (born) 9-14-1880 (parents) Ephram Boring -

Margrate Willis". I did not find a death date in Jackson Twp., Jackson Co., Ohio for either.

I found that over at the genealogy library today..It closes at the end of November and doesn't reopen until February outside the downtown Columbus area.

Re my Gus Willis puzzle, I found a birth of a "Harry A. Vandevort 1898 Jul 02 (parents) Vandevort, B. D. - Willis, E. C." born in "Clinton Co. - Blanchester". Here E.C. Willis is presumably my father's "Cornelia Vandevort" daughter of Gus Willis, who may turn out to be Archibald Willis. Also I found a death listing for "Waller, Susan M. 11-2-1883 (age) 69- 3-19 (born) Muskingum Co. (cause of death was) general disability". This was the Susan Girty who married Daniel Waller, in-laws of Cyrus Willis.

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:38:54 -0800 (PST) From: martin henson Subject: Henson data To: jwgrace99@

John it's good to hear that you did recieve the e mail Henson file. I was beginning to think there was abad connection. Yes it's OK to send Caroline/CarolynRoy information. If she wants she can contact me. Ihave Pension papers from Civil War on Samuel Henson ifshe would be interested. There are a couple of peopleI have doubts about (These have the bolded questionmark behind them). Most of Samuels family has beentaken from CW pension papers. I would think emailwould be a little more easy than phoning( not that Imind a phone call - I welcome all the phone calls Ican get - I do like to talk to people- though I maynot be available to accept them- so e mail would morethan likely get a more speedy response). whew!!! well that's about all for now Hope you didn't haveany trouble sifting through the data sent. Hope tohear from you soon. Marty

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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:02:45 -0600 From: Marilyn Browder |To: John Grace Subject: Re: Maude Mckinniss

My grandmother died in l9l7 at the age of 34. I would say that she isnot in your photo. I was born and raised in Jackson but have lived inWaverly for about 43years. My grandmother's maiden name was McCune so Ithink it must be another McKininss family. The name of Dempsey Ross isfamiliar to me and also the Fitzpatrick name. I have nover heard of thename of Crambitts. Marilyn

John Grace wrote:

> Marilyn, thanks for your response to my posting. Do> you know if there are any Mckinniss links to the> Fitzpatricks? The photo to which I referred looks to> be some sort of family reunion or major holiday get> together. There are about 20 individuals in the photo.> All the others are related to the Cramblitts and> Fitzpatricks in some way. I don't have the photo in> front of me at the moment, but as I recall, Maude> Mckinniss looked to be about 45-50 years old at the> time.

> Talma Fitzpatrick (she later married Dempsey Ross) is> in the photo. She was my grandmother (she passed away> in 1983). I recall Talma mentioning the Mckinniss> name, but I don't recall if it was in a family> context, or if they just attended the same church. Are> you from Jackson?> John

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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:35:28 -0600 From: Marilyn Browder |To: John Grace Subject: Re: Maude Mckinniss

I really haven't done much on the McKinniss side. I have done some on myDad's side and now I am getting intrested on my Mom's side. Maude'sfather was Joseph McCune born 12-12-1849 d. 11-10-1909. MarriedJosephine Kabisch. Maude her parents are buried at the FairmontCemetery in Jackson. There is also a Kate McCune that I believe was hersister. I do not remember ever hearing of a Lila McKinniss or a VeraJohnson. My grandfather parents were George McKinniss born 8-3-1855 d.10-2-1946 wife Martha Thacker McKinniss born 3-13-1859 d. 12-27-1927.They are buried in the Curry Cemetery in Vinton County. My mother is 94and it is hard for her to remember long ago things. I wish I had startedon some of this stuff 20 years ago. I have nobody on my Dad's side thtis living, so a lot of that has been some hard digging. Not as much onmy grandfather's side but on my grandmother's side. I think I have asmall picture arouond here. My mother has a large picture of her motherhanging up. My mother was 10 when her mother died.My great grandparentshad nine children. Charles, Robert, Warren, George, Stanley, Esley,Emma, Gracie, Viva. I really don't know if any of this matches any ofyour info or not. Mairlyn

John Grace wrote:

> Marilyn, actually I think there is a good chance this> is your grandmother. I dug out the photo and found> that Lila Mckinniss is the older lady. Maude looks to> be in her 20's. Another lady, Vera Johnson is looking> at her with a little smile on her face. They might be> related. Do you have a photo of your grandmother?> Lila Mckinniss (along with some of the other older> women) has an apron around her waist (like she's just> come from the kitchen). That's one of the things that> made me think that the Mckinniss's were "family".>> As I look at the picture, I am sure I am wrong about> the date. In the picture, Ruby and Violet Cramblit> look to be 3-6 years old. Ruby was born about 1912,> and Violet was born in 1910. I'm now guessing now that> the picture was take 1915-16.> How did your grandmother die? My grandmother lost 7> members of her family (several of them children) in> the 1918 flu epidemic. Have you researched the> Mckinniss line at all?> John

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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:13:37 -0600 From: Marilyn Browder |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Picture

I found the picture of my grandmother taken 1914. She is standing on aporch with a lot of vines surrounding it. I do not know what she diedof. That is the only picture I have of her. I do not have any of myggrandparents. Marilyn

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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:09:49 -0600 From: Marilyn Browder |To: John Grace Subject: Re: Picture

John, The picture I have her hair is brown and with a slight part but itseems to be back in a bun. You can't see any rings on her hand. Idon'tthink I know a Kenneth or a Bill McKinniss. It would be interesting toknow who their grandparent or ggrandparents were. I know I haveMcKinniss relatives in Chillicothe. One of grandpa's brothers livedthere. And Stanley McKiniss daughter lives there. Her name is MaryMullins. My mother was born at Hawk's Station in Vinton Cty. In the obitI have for Martha McKinniss (my ggrandmother) her children were listedin the Jackson, Wellston, Chillicothe and Vinton Cty. areas.If you runacross info on my side I would appreciate you letiing me know. You saidyou were the Fitzpatrick side. Where does that tie in with theMcKiniss. What area do you live in. Marilyn

John Grace wrote:

> Marilyn, earlier today, I spoke with Kenneth Mckinnis> of Jackson. He said he recobnized Maude's name, but> could to recall any details about her. He said that he> had a lot of Mckinniss genalogy, but had loaned it to> a Bill Mckinniss a couple of months ago, and bill had> not returned it yet. I have Bill's address, and will> try to contact him.> In the picture that I have, Maude has kind of a> roundish face, with her hair sharply parted on her> left side (right as you look at her). It looks to be> brown with some high lights (though that could be a> problem with the photo). There could be a wedding ring> on her finger, though it really is hard to tell. She> has a braclet on her left wrist. The dark dress she is> wearing has a round decoration or pin on it, just at> her neck line. I guess a picture is worth at least a> thousand words in this case ;>)> John

Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 11:12:09 -0500 From: "Marilyn Browder" |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: genealogy

Hi, was going thru some genealogy notes and you said you had a picturethat might be my grandmother Maude McKinniss. Do you have a scanner thatyou could send it to me. I thought I could show it to my mother, althoher memory is fading fast to see if there is any recognition for her. Iam planning to go to McArthur to the court house and try to look up somerecords. ;My line of the McKinniss and McCune is shaky. Have you had anyluck. Thanks for your trouble. Marilyn

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Subject: RE: Burnett photo Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:37:09 -0500 From: pp01406@ppp.kcc.edu To: jwgrace@

Hi John, I received a call from a friend today that had just discovered the pic of Boss posted to the Carter County web page. I explained how you had worked a miracle in contacting Avanell and that you had supplied the pic. Have you heard anymore from her? My friend and I are thinking of trying once again to contact her and possibly trying to get her to let us visit her. She could fill in so many blanks if she would talk with us. Do you have any suggestions? Again, thanks seem so little for such a treasure as the pic you graciously shared.Sherry LoweGrayson, Kentucky

-----Original Message-----From: John Grace [SMTP:jwgrace@]Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 7:07 PMTo: Garrett and Sherry LoweSubject: Burnett photo

Sherry, I just received a letter and some photos from Avanell Burnett. Thechildren in the picture are Avanell (looks to be less than a year old) andVivian. I would guess the picture was taken in the spring of 1912. Can you

confirm that these are their parents in the picture? The info I have is thatAmanda died about 1912, so this may be one of the last pictures of her (if itis her). Johnjwgrace@

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Subject: Fw: Edward Fitzpatrick Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:48:01 -0700 From: concho@

To: JUDYRN@, jwgrace@, susannoel@, MFitzie@, deanhickmn@

CC: chrisbarttels@ Attachment: Attachment

Hi Chris and everyone,Sorry this took so long to forward, I had a ton of email messages I was trying to get through. Chris this should give you the email addresses of our fellow researchers! If I missed anyone, please forward on and copy Chris.Gerry

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From: Chris Barttels To: concho@ Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:35 PMSubject: Edward Fitzpatrick

Hi Gerry,Thought you would be interested in this conversation I've been having with Lori Smith, a descendant of Edward Fitzpatrick.

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Fitzpatrick's Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:03:38 -0600

Hello, I came across your entry on rootsweb for George Fitzpatrick wife Ann Pennock. I am told they are the parents of my Edward Fitzpatrick born March 24 1855 in Jackson Co Ohio. I did not see his name in the list of children

for George. Do you have any information that could help me prove or disprove this. Thank you Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Fitzpatrick'sDate: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:04:38 -0600

Hello. Here are the few facts I have on my Edward Fitzpatrick.

Edward Fitzpatrick born March 24 1855 Jackson Co OHmarried April 6 1879 Mercer Co MO Louisa Barbdied August 1 1922 Benton Co MOburied Mt Pleasant Cem. Benton Co MO

Children:

Sylvester Henry born Feb 1 1880 Mercer Co MO

Wilford Arthur born Oct 22 1881 Harrison Co MO

Robert George born Dec 26 1883 Harrison Co MO

Jessie May born May 1 1889 Mercer Co MO

Letter dated January 3 1967 written by Jake Fitzpatrick sent to Elsie (Fitzpatrick) McCall he tells about a trip taken with his father Jacob Fitzpatrick and stepmother Frances, with them was his first cousin Edward Fitzpatrick and his wife Louisa and their children Henry, George and Jessie. This trip took place in 1903 and they traveled to Osawatamie KS. In 1904 Edward and Louisa settled in Olpe Kansas and remained for 15 years. I don't know if the Jacob Fitzpatrick returned to MO or stayed in KS. In 1919 Edward and Louisa moved to Benton Co MO with son George and family.Death certificate for Edward was filled out by son George who did not know the name of Edward's father. I am told the mother's name is on it but my grandmother has misplaced it at present. I'll probably have to send for another copy.Kathy Fitzpatrick who does lookups in Jackson Co OH and researches the

Fitzpatrick name is the one who told me his father was George Fitzpatrick and his mother a Pennock.So you see I have little to go on at present. Any direction you could give would be greatly appreciated. Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Edward FitzpatrickDate: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:36:54 -0600

Hello. Thank you for the information on the Fitzpatrick line. Finally found out the death certificate of Edward Fitzpatrick list no father and the mother as Miram McKinney. After looking through you website I saw that the Miram Fitzpatrick you had listed married a McKinney. I'm not ready to settle on this yet though. The 1860 census in Mercer Co Mo doesn't list an Edward Fitzpatrick at all that I have seen. So I wonder where he was? Just thought I would pass on what I found since it is part of your line of Fitzpatricks. Thanks again. Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: Subject: Fitzpatrick'sDate: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:27:40 -0600

Hello. We spoke last week of Edward Fitzpatrick and the possibility of Miram Fitzpatrick being his mother. I haven't learned any more there but I have found something on the Casander Barb you mentioned. David Barb married Cassandra Fitzpatrick Ellsworth. David Barb was the father of Louisa Elizabeth Barb who married Edward Fitzpatrick. My Grandmother tells me Casander and her Ellsworth husband had children but there were no children between she and David Barb. The picture I have of David and Casander shows she is somewhat younger than he. My Grandmother is being very sketchy with her information on this family. I thought this might help if you were still trying to find out the Barb-Fitzpatrick connection. Lori

From: "L. Smith" To: "Chris Barttels" Subject: Re: Miram Fitzpatrick in 1860 Mercer MO CensusDate: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:38:38 -0600

Ok. Here is what I have managed to learn from my Grandmother. Casander (Cassandra) Barb is buried in Hamilton Cem. in Mercer Co. MO as is David Barb and his first wife Mary Susannah Hamilton. The story from a great granddaughter of David Barb, Bernadine, who lives in that area is that the headstones are missing except for David Barbs and his has been moved from it's original location. Bernadine has placed flat markers on the actual graves of David and Mary but not on Casander's. I have seen the census record for the Ellsworth's that you speak of, there is no Edward. So my curiosity is peaked as to where he was then. I saw the will information you had on your website. If I'm not mistaken Casander was still a Fitzpatrick at that time. That might help to narrow the marriage date for her and the Ellsworth. My best guess on the death place for Miram would be Osawatamie which is in Miami Co Ks or Olpe which is in Lyon Co KS. She must have been Edwards only reason for going there since the year she died he returned to MO. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner but I will see if my Aunt does and send it from there. Maybe we will come up with some answers soon. Lori

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Anyway, that's where we are up to now. You may want to pass this on to our fellow family researchers. I had a major crash a few months ago, and lost all my email addresses, so yours is the only one I have. If you get the chance email me the addresses of those you know who are working on Jeremiah's descendants. Thanks.

As you can see from the above, this pretty much confirms what I have thought, Edward being the son of Miram, and not of George and Ann.Take care and I'll keep you informed on what's going on.Chris Barttels

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Subject: Fw: Bunyan Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:10:36 -0800 From: willette@ To: jwgrace99@

Hi. This is a long-shot that could prove helpfull later..since she will bedoing further research at SLC..if you wish to make contact with her.Regards, Willette

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bush, Anne" To: "'Willette Smith'" Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:54 AMSubject: RE: Bunyan> Dear Willette,> I have always been told that we were related to John Bunyan - my maiden> name. My 3rd great grandfather was baptized in John's church. I have not> been able to prove a connection though. From what I have read about John> and his family, I do not think I am a direct descendent. I have tracedthe> Bunyans back to the 1700s and John forward to the 1600s. I am missingabout> 100 years of info. I am going to Salt Lake City this June and hope to get> some more info.> Sorry, I'm not much help. Keep me in mind if you find anything and I will> do likewise.> President Bush's family and my husband's family are from the same town inNY> so there may be a connection. I am going to work on that, too, while in> Salt Lake. I want to stay in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House, ha!> Anne Bunyan Bush

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Willette Smith [SMTP:willette@]> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:06 PM> > To: cdzjb@> > Subject: Bunyan

> > Hi. Are you related to "The" John Bunyan (or Pres.Bush?) I am trying to> > locate more info.(Prison records maybe?) on "The" John Bunyan who spent> > some time in the Bedford prison, wrote a couple books,etc. My connection> > to this research involves a Thomas Breedlove who transcribed J.Bunyans> > Trial. Yes, there should be some Court Records that would have thistrial

> > coverage, but have not found any as yet.Evidently, it was in a different> > (Court) category (of lesser crimes, etc.)..and perhaps those> > non-conformists(religion) were treated in a different manner.?? However,I> > have not even been able to get full info on John Bunyan but know others> > have (where do they get this?) My point being, there may be some mention> > of this Thomas Breedlove (my maiden name) in some of these official> > records. Thank you for any info. or suggestions you may have. Regards,> > Willette Smith

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From: edjan@ |To: "John Grace" Subject: Whitt Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:17:07 -0600

Hi, JohnNo, I haven't heard of the Nethercutt clergyman. I had no idea that the Nethercutt men were affiliated with religion at all - Tell me more. Do you have very much information on the Nethercutts?

David and Solomon Nethercutt were sons of Jordan Nethercutt/Neithercutt who was either a brother or half-brother (long story) of my g g grandfather, George Nethercutt.

George married Rebecca Wells and their children were:

Susan m. Wm Armstrong

Moses m. Catherine Mauk

Sarah 'Sallie' didn't marry

William Henry m. 1st Elizabeth Van Bibber; m. 2nd Louise Oliver; m. 3rd Eugenia (Jones) Cook (Wm H. and Eugenia were my g grandparents)

George W. m. Sarah (Gee) Camron

Stephen didn't marry

Rebecca m. James G. Whitt

Newspaper clipping "From These Hills" by Mike Barker; Whitt Family, Part III by Nancy K. Masters, Olive Hill, KY

Edmund and Richard Whitt and their families arrived in Carter County some time in 1838-1839, having made the trip from Lee County, Va., along with kindred families and settled around the little Sandy River and Gimlet Creek areas. The children of Richard Whitt and Rebecca Whitt form the 4th generation and were:

Hannah Whitt, b. 23 Dec 1821, Russell Co., Va./d. 25 Dec 1900, Elliott Co./ m. 18 Dec 1841, Carter Co., to Miles McFarland. They were separated by 1850, but had one child: Virginia L. McFarland who m. 17 May 1862, Carter Co. to Albert Flannery. Virginia was b. ca 1843, Carter Co./d. ca 1873, Elliott Co. Children of Albert and Virginia were: Nancy B. Flannery, b. 1864; James H. Flannery, b. 1856; Isom F. Flannery, b. ca 1872

Susannah Whitt, b. ca 1823 Russell Co., Va./d. 18 May 1858, Carter Co., KY, m. 1st 30 Mar 1843 to James Sparks, m. 2nd ? Barnet. No known issue.

Edmund Whitt, Jr., b. 14 Nov 1825 Lee Co., Va./d. 18 Oct 1900, Elliott Co./m. ca 1849 to Mary Jane Perry, dau. of Sarah Perry Rose.

John Bunyan Whitt, b. 28 Dec 1827, Tazewell Co., Va./d. 23 Jun 1909, Elliott Co./m. 27 Sep 1868, Carter Co. to Susannah Maggard, dau. of David Maggard.

Nancy Belle Whitt, b. 18 May 1832 Russell Co., Va./d. 18 Jul 1891, Elliott Co./m. 14 Sep 1849, Carter Co. to John 'Jack' Kelly.

Lavisa Lee Whitt, b. 28 May 1834, Russell Co., Va./d. 2 June 1891 Elliott Co./m. 31 Aug 1852 Carter Co. to Henderson Rose, son of Sarah Perry Rose.

James G. Whitt, b. 11 Nov. 1836, Lee Co., Va./d. 1 Nov 1906, Elliott co./ m. 9 Feb 1860, Carter Co. to Rebecca Nethercutt.

There are 2 other children I found on another list; Jarvis B. b. ca 1828 and Louisa b. ca 1830.

"Carter County, a pictorial history" by George Wollford

WHITT FAMILY, descended from Edmund, who came from Virginia to Big Gimlet in 1839 with his grown and married family gathered around him. He was a son of Richard and Susannah Skaggs White and his mother was a sister of Long Hunters James, Henry and Richard Skaggs and also of Lydia Skaggs, who married Mathias Harmon of Harman's Station of Jenny Wiley fame. Edmund's children were Richard Price; Abijah; Lavisa, who married Hugh Boggs Jr.; Linney; and Rebecca, who married "Devil Dick" Whitt, her first cousin. For continuing interest, see Mrs. Nancy Masters, Olive Hill, or Mrs. Bert White, Sandy Hook.

WHITT, William B., merchant and wholesaler. Born 17 Sep 1867 at Whitt, son of Jack and Missouri Cox Whitt. Educated in local schools, at 17 took charge of father's general store. In 1895 located in Ashland, forming partnership with James H. Kitchen, incorporated in 1898 as Kitchen, Whitt & Co. In 1887 married Bertola Jarvis, who died in 1906; they reared five children. In 1907 wed Bessie J. Sexton and had six children. State senator, 1907-07; Ashland school board, and mayor of Ashland, serving until his death 19 Dec 1926. Democrat, Methodist (South), Mason.

There is more Whitt info in "Early Families of Eastern & Southeastern Kentucky' by Kozee, but it is scattered all thru the book. I've found so much conflicting data on this family. I'm sure that there are documents somewhere that would prove or disprove.

Anxious to receive any information you have.

Jan

From: edjan@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "John W. Grace"

Subject: 1850 Census

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 02:16:24 -0600

Hello, again, John

Found my copy of 1850 Census -

District No. 1 in the County of Carter, State of Kentucky, enumerated by me on the 8th day of August 1850. J. P. Richards

Age Sex Occupation Value of Real Estate Birthplace

Richard Whitt 54 M Blacksmitih 500 Va

Rebecca 44 F Va Cannot read or write

Hanah 28 F Va Cannot read or write

James B. 22 M Labourer Va

Lavisa 15 F Va

James G. 13 M Va

Virginia L. McFarlane 7 F Ky

Jan

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From: "Eric Hartman" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Barnes-Fitzpatrick genealogy Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 Hi John,I have very little Fitzpatrick information at this time. I have been concentrating on the Barnes genealogy. I have picked up little bits and pieces of information on Catharine. I have come across info indicating her father was a Jeremiah Fitzpatrick. I know Catharine was born in Guernsey or Columbiana County. She married Othoniel in Columbiana County around 1822. Otho purchased land in 1825 through the Land Office at Steubenville, Ohio.Otho and Catharine moved to Jackson County around 1839. There also were several Fitzpatricks in Jackson County at the 1840 Census, including Jeremiah age 60-70 and his wife; John age 40-50; and, George age 40-50 and their families. Catharine is buried at Lincoln Cemetery in Jackson County. She died May 10, 1881. I was there a couple of weeks ago, I did not see any graves for Fitzpatricks. I plan to go to Columbiana and Jefferson counties in Ohio in the next 2 weeks. I am also going to Fayette County, Pa., that is where Otho enlisted in the Army for the War of 1812. I do plan to research the Fitzpatrick line more, but first want to concentrate on the Barnes line. I will certainly be looking for Fitzpatricks information while in these counties though. (It would be silly to have to go again.) If I find anything concrete, I can let you know. Hope this has been of use to you, sorry I don't have more at this time. Let me know if you have any questions. Keep in touch.

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From: tpf1960@ |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Deem Family Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 14:55:21 -0500

Hi John! Thanks so much for replying to my message on the Deem GenForum. I am descended from Hiram's son, Henderson. Would you mind sharing with me any information you might have about Henderson? His wife's name was Mary Alice Poole, but I don't know much about her. Their daughter, Elizabeth, married George M. Riddle. George and Elizabeth were my gr-grandparents. I would also like to contact the researcher you mentioned, if you think it would be OK. Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it. I look forward to hearing from you again,Paula Faulkner tpf1960@

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Subject: Re: Catherine Fitzpatrick Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:40:26 EDT From: OneLimbTree@ To: jwgrace99@

Hi, John. Thank you very much for getting back to me. I have nothing on the Fitpatricks except Catherine's name. However, I'll hold onto your address and will be in touch as soon as I learn anything new. Rita Lilly

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From: tpf1960@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Re: Deems

Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:54:20 -0500

Hi John! I don't think I'm too confident about any of this genealogy

stuff..ha..ha! Just when I think I've figured it out, something

changes.

Frustrating, isn't it - but so much fun.

I got the information about Johan Nicolas from a website by Robert Mark

Sharp at: . I searched Alta Vista for Deem family and

found

this. I think it was a couple of years ago. He said Johan died August

30,

1835 in Middletown, Butler, OH, at 81 years of age, and is buried in

the

Astoria Cemetery in Madison township, Butler County.

The Hannah and Juniper info came from Carl Deem in Canada. His quoted

"History of Ritchie County" by Minnie Kendall Lowther:

"Jacob Deem, brother of Adam Deem I, evidently came along with the rest

of

the family to Wood County. The Wood County records show that he and

Adam

Deem I, and Joel Lowther were appointed for public service on a road

shortly

after the organization of the county. His name appears in the land

grants

on Tygarts Creek of the Little Kanawha in 1804, and his wife's name was

Eve,

as shown in these transactions. He was born in PA, 1763, and was a

Revolutionary Soldier; as his deposition shows in behalf of his

brother,

Adam Deem I. He doubtless had several children, but we have but one of

their names verified, and that is Juniper Deem, whose descendants are

connected with Ritchie County."

It looks like Carl is quoting the same book for the source of the name

of

Hannah, who it says married her cousin, Adam Deem I, brother of Jacob.

Please let me know what you think,

Paula

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Downards info---FYI

Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:22:10 EDT

From: DeanHickmn@

To: jwgrace99@

Attachment: Attachment

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From: Luke Downey

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Subject: Re: Tom Downard

Date: 6/01/2001 @ 07:35:27 p.m.

Mr. Hickman,

I am Tom Downard, although my email states Luke Downey (this is done because

I am a public school teacher and try to keep my students from accessing my

personal email address--I can also be reached through my internet provider

email address which is: lucas@). I am the grandson of Thomas

Downard who was the son of Joshua Downard and Marilla Hartley Downard. Yes,

I am very, very familiar with Camp Bountiful, which was once the Downard

Family Farm. I live in Zanesville, Ohio which is about one and a half hours

north of Jackson County. In fact, my mother and sister still live in Jackson

County in the town of Wellston.

I am 44 years old and the son of George Edward Downard who was the son of

Thomas Downard who was the son of Joshua Downard. Joshua was the son of

James Downard and Mary Bruce Downard and Mary returned to live with Joshua

and Marilla on the family farm. In fact, my grandfather, Thomas lived on the

family farm with his sister Prudence until her death. In the 1950's the farm

was the victim of a flood, and Thomas and Prudence lived with my family for

over a year when we lived in Coalton, Ohio. In fact, I spent a great deal of

my childhood at the home of Susie Leach Milliken Wood, who was my father's

sister.

My grandmother, Eva Faulkner, upon the death of her first husband, Thomas

Jefferson Leach, married my grandfather, Thomas Downard. Susie was the child

of Eva and Thomas Leach. When my grandmother married Thomas Downard, their

children were as follows (I can

send you birth and death dates, if you like) Calvin b. 1905-d.1913, Clarence

b. 1908-d. 1909, George Edward (my father) b. 1910-d.1986, Neal (dates which

I will get from my mother), Tedie Eloise b. 1927-d.1929, and Anna (who is

still living in Palm Desert, CA).

Susie Leach was raised by my grandfather Thomas and his wife Eva Faulkner

Downard. I spent much of my childhood and adulthood in Aunt Susie's house in

Coalton, Ohio. Susie first married John Milliken, together they had several

children who I am still in contact with (Thomas, Jack, Charles, Jean,

Dorothy, Russ, and William). Both Susie Leach Milliken and John Milliken are

buried in Byer Cemetary which is located in Ray, Ohio. Both Susie's and my

father's grave are near their mother, Eva Faulkner Downard. Many of Susie's

children are buried near her, also.

In fact, my cemetary plot is located next to my father's in Byer

Cemetary--hopefully, I won't be using it anytime soon. After the death of

John Milliken, Susie married Fred Wood who owned a hardward store in Coalton,

Ohio. Their house was located next to the hardware store and one of her

grand daughters, Carol Milliken, still resides in Susie's house in Coalton,

Ohio. After the death of Fred Wood, Susie married one more time, but that

name I will have to get from my mother.

Once I sort through the information you have sent and cross check it with

mine. I will send you the information I have concerning the Downard

genealogy. If you have specific question you would like to ask, I would be

happy to answer them if I know the answers.

Please stay in touch.

Tom Downard

2070 Norwood Blvd.

Zanesville, Ohio 43701

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Subject: Re: Addendum to prior note

Date: 6/02/2001 @12:57:58 a.m.

Corrections to some of your information:

1. there is an Almira, but no information on her.

2. Pruda should be Prudence--married to Green B. Baileys (pronounced Ba-lis)

3. Rebecca-died in Mechanicsburg, Ohio

4. Thomas (my grandfather) married Eva Faulkner:

children were Calvin b. 13 July 1905 d. 05 Jan. 1913;

Clarence b. 23 Nov. 1908 d. 21 May 1909;

George Edward (my father) b. 10 March 1910 d. 23 November 1986;

Tedie Eloise b. 25 April 1927 d. 19 April 1928;

Neal--no birth date or death date but will get them soon, please ask in about

a month;

Anna--still living and married to Charles Shaw--resides in Palm Desert,

California;

also, a daughter from Eva Faulkner's first marriage to Thomas Jefferson Leach

named Susie who was raised by Thomas Downard and Eva Faulkner Downard. I

always knew her as Aunt Susie.

5. James married to Rosa E. Dollard; twin brother of Thomas. James died in

a mining accident of a fractured skull.

His children are: Zelda Downard who married Virgil Landrum;

Belle Downard who married Floyd Smith;

and Gusta Downard who had two children but never married;

and a son, Hayden Lamar b. 23 May 1925 d. 31 January 1928.

These are all children of Joshua and Marilla Hartley Downard. Thomas's

parents were Jame and Mary Bruce Downard. Joshua was previously married to

Nancy Cooper whom he divorced. They had three children, two of whom returned

to live with Marilla and Joshua when Nancy died.

May I please ask for your name, location, and connection to the Downard's.

Thank you.

Tom Downard

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Subject: Re: Tom Downard

The second wife of Thomas Leach, Eva Faulkner, remarried Thomas Downard, my

grandfather. Eva Faulkner's parents were Charles Faulkner and Madona Holland.

Susie Leach married John Milliken and the children of Susie and John Milliken

are: Thomas (dead), William (dead), Charles (alive and living in Wellston,

Ohio), Jack (dead, but his wife Betty lives in Coalton, Ohio), Russ (dead),

Gladys (dead), Jean (dead), and Ruth (living in New Haven, CT). When John

Milliken died, Susie remarried to Fred Wood who ran Wood's Hardware in

Coalton, Ohio. Eva Faulkner, Susie Leach Milliken, and most of Susie's

children are buried in Byer Cemetary in Ray, Ohio except for Jack and Thomas

Milliken who are buried in Coalton

Cemetary.

Indeed, Mary Leach who married Robert Lucas is part of my mother's family

tree. Robert Lucas was the brother of my gggrandfather Lewis Lucas. You may

be interested to know that Robert Lucas is buried in Paine Cemetary in

Wellston, Ohio near the state park known as Lake Alma which was named after

one of his daughter's Alma Lucas since the state park is on the land once

owned by the Alma Coal Company which was run by Alma's husband Robert Davis.

Lewis is buried in Evergreen Cemetary and just outside Coalton on the way to

Evergreen Cemetary is the "Lucas School" which was founded by Robert and

Lewis Lucas who inherited land given to them by their father Robert who

migrated to Ohio from PA. I am attaching a picture of the Lucas School for

you.

I'm wondering if you are related to Robert Leach who married my grandmother's

sister Hazel Dixon.

Tom Downard

--- Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us wrote:

>

> The offspring of Thomas Whiting Leach (including Susie Leach) are at



Thomas Whiting Leach was a son of Revolutionary War soldier George Leach.

I notice there is a Mary Leach marrying a Robert Lucas. Would this

perchance be in your mom's family tree????

Luke Downey on 06/04/2001 05:02:42 PM

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

cc:

Subject: Re: Addendum to prior note

Yes, they were cousins...their father's were brothers.

Tom Downard

--- Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us wrote:

>

> Do you happen to know whether Frances and Eva

> Faulkner were cousins???

Dean Hickman

06/05/2001 12:54 PM

To: "Gloria Quinroz"

cc:

Subject: Re: Leasures (Document link: Dean Hickman)

I have tried to mark comments in Red...hopefully they will come through ok.

Thanks.

To:

cc:

Subject: Leasures

Dean,

Okey, I had to stop and look up your name, your from the Elizabeth Downard

who married info the McGlaughlin family.

I am from the last child, Joshua Downard.

Jackson County marriage infomation has some errors, could have happened when

the lady was typing from the original records, that I dont know, but the

records should read, Joshua Downard married Nancy Cooper vice Copper ,and

also the list should read Samuel Downard vice Dowling who married Anna Wilbur.

In Milton Township, Jackson County, Ohio 1850 Census, dated 27 June 1850 is

listed:

Robert Wesley Cooper 46 yrs born in PA.

Margaret 43 PA

Delilah 16 OHIO

Benjamin 11 "

Margaret 8 "

Francis M. 6 "

Lydia 4 "

Susan 1 "

Nancy Cooper 80 (this would be the Mother of Robert W. Cooper)

Living in the next household is: (I have this excerpted in my files)

Joshua Downard age 18 born OHIO

his wife Nancy (Cooper) Downard age 18 born OHIO

Joshua Downard and Nancy Cooper were married 27 June 1850

Joshua Downard and Nancy had 3 children:

1. Robert Wesley Downard born 1854

2. Rachel Downard born 1856

3. Mary Downard born 1857

Joshua Downard and Nancy Cooper Downard divorced, there is a notice in the

"Express" newspaper, dated January 1864.

Joshua Downard 2nd marriage was to Marilla Harltey on 10 Dec 1865 in Jackson

Co., Ohio

Marilla's father was Thomas Hartley, her Mother was Prudence Newell,

Thomas married Prudence in Jackson Co., Ohio 6 Feb 1817, they had (******I

have some Hartley info....my mom was named for a Hartley)

1. Malinda Hartley, born 12/18/11817

2, Elisa Hartley born Circa 1824

3. Abitha Hartley born Circa 1825,she married Isaac Newell on 28 June 1845.

*******Tabitha Hartley

4. Albert born 12/25/1827 **********married Letitia Cook and after she died

Mary C. Full sister of Hannah Full Riley, wife of George Shively Riley,

brother to my ancestor Hannah Riley Hickman.

5. Marilla born Circa 1837 married Joshua Downard

6. Alfred born 1833, married Cartharine H. Martin on 13 April 1856

Joshua Downard and Marilla Hartley Downard had 5 children:

1. Almira Downard, born 1866

2. Prudence Downard born 26 June 1869, she married a Bailey. Prudence was of

the Morman faith.

****Green B. Baileys (pronounced Bayless)..also married Ethel McLaughlin

Ethel's ? child Zelda Baileys.

3. Rebecca Downard born 9 May 1872, married Henry Halterman, she had 3

children, there was a funeral held for Rebecca in Mechanicsburg, Ohio, but, I

have no date of death.

****Think he was son of Christian Halterman and Mariah Whaley Found him in

census Saturday night.

4. James E. Downard (A TWIN) born 10 June 1875, James was of the Morman

faith, he married Rosa E. Dollard on 1 Jan 1903, they had 4 children:

1. Hayden Lamar born 23 May 1925, died 31 Jan 1928

2. Zelda who married Virgil Landrum *************Virgil died about 20 years

ago..Zelda is still alive.

3. Belle who married Floyd Smith

4. Gusta, never married

5th child of Joshua and Marilla

Thomas Downard (the other twin) born 10 June 1875, he was of the Methodist

faith, married Eva Faulker on 13 Dec 1904 in Jackson Co., Ohio. 5 children:

(Tom Downard gave me these yesterday)

1. Susie, her first marriage was to John Milliken, 2nd marriage to Fred Wood

2. Calvin Downard

3. Clarence Downard

4. George Edward

5 Neal

6. Tedie Eloise

7. Anna who married Charles Shaw

I have a correction to the above list: Eva Faulkner was married to Thomas

Jefferson Leach prior to marriage to Thomas Downard, and the first child on

the list, Susie is from Eva first marriage, so it should read Susie Leach not

Downard. ******I knew this part*******Eva was first cousin to his first wife,

Frances Samantha, per Tom Downard. I didn't know what happened to Susie after

the 1910 census. Tom Downard said there was a third husband for Susie.

A Story:

Where Joshua's farm was located, now stands a Morman Day Camp. (Camp

Bountiful) The last known owner of Joshua's farm was the daughter Prudence,

she was a Morman, Zelda (James Daughter took care of Prudence in her last

days) she was also a Morman, so the story goes that either Prudence of Zelda

left the property to the Morman Church. (I would guess that Zelda and Virgil

gave it..Brother Sylva Landrum was a RLDS member too..Their father Lonnie

Landrum was married to Flora Bennington and ran off to Illinois after 1910

with Cora Larrabee Woods, a relative of mine; Lonnie left Flora and Cora left

Pete Woods)

NOW, we go back to Robert Wesley Cooper's family

Delilah Cooper married Adam Jordan in 17 July 1854 in Jackson County, Ohio,

Adam server in the Civil War, they had 15 children, 14 boys and 1 girl. I

have a picture of these 15 children: Ella, William, Thomas, Burt, Hattie,

Abraham, George Washington, Bertha, Roy, Drsey, Ollie, Anna or Henry????,

John Wesley, Lafayette (A TWIN) and the other twin is either Anna or Henry.

I have a picture of all the male children surrounding their Mother .

Then Adam Jordan died, and Delilah married ABRAHAM LEISURE, in Pike County,

Ohio

Abrahm Leisure was married to Elizabeth Marks, she died in childbirth in 1870

To make a long story short, Abraham Leisure and Delilah (Cooper, Jordan)

Leisure are buried in Smith Hill Cemetery, Pike County Ohio

Any questions???????????????/

Gloria

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My guess is yes, but I have a Coalton Township

Sesqui-centennial Book dated 1953 with a Faulkner

family history and I will check it out. Seems the

same to me.

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> In 1870 Jackson Twp JAckson County I have a Medara

> Holland age 13....Is this

> your Madona Holland????

> William Holland 54 #185 born Virginia

> Permelia 54 born Virginia

> Elizabeth 23 born Ohio

> Elijah 19

> Martha 14 Greenlawn Cem. Chillicothe Martha Holland

> Willis 1856-1934 wife of

> Ira T. Willis

> Medara 13

> Evaline 10 Eva Holland Burks 1860-1920 wife of Abiga

> ….Joseph H. Burks

> 1895-1947

>

> In the 1860 census she is Adora Holland

> Wm Holland 55 #191/179 born Virginia

> Permelia 49 born Virginia

> Mary A 23 born Ohio

> Wm 21

> James H 18

> Hannah 17

> Elizabeth 14

> Eliza R 12

> Angeline 10 m Oscar J. Leach

> Martha 8 compare Martha Holland 1856-Apr 10, 1934 m

> Ira T Willis 30 Apr

> 1853-25 Dec 1915

> Adora 4

> Sidney 2/12 male

>

>

> In 1880 I have: William Holland 75 #273, Permelia 64, Elijah B 28,

> Martha 22 will marry Ira T. Willis (born 12 Mar 1856?) Emma D 21 = Dora? Evva 18 Nextdoor are Angeline Leach 27 #274, Widow of Oscar J Leach Daughter Williett 9 Arthur B 7

> Herbert 4 Oscar 1

>

> In 1850 I have Wm Holland 48, William H. Holland married Pamelia > Banks 29 Aug 1833 Permelia 30 (Va), LDS has Permelia Burks dau of John Burks and Ann Pugh John 16, John H Holland d 12 Jun 1874 40y 17d Co C OHA a John Holland m Sydna Sutton 27 Aug 1857 Mary A 14, Mary Ann m John Fitzpatrick Wm 12, William B. Holland will marry Phebe Leach 30 Oct 1862 James 8 m Hannah Martin 23 Jan 1866, Loren Martin's stepfather > Hannah F 5, will marry Robert W Leach Betsy A 3, Elizabeth A. Holland will marry Adam Deem Eliza A 2 Tombstone Almira Holland 3 Nov 1853 Brocks > Corner Cemetery

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:53:55 -0600 To: jwgrace99@ From: Marci Shaffer |Subject: Eva Ann Cox

>Hi: I saw your post on the Cox genealogy forum and since I rarely get to visit the forum I have mailed you directly. I am seeking info on Eva Ann Cox b. abt. 1767 in PA, m. Jacob Deem, s/o >Johannes and Anna Deem. I am a descendant through Eva and Jacob's son William when the Deem line married Melrose. I have info on the Deem and Melrose but none on the Cox line. Any info that you have on Eva and her ancestors/siblings would be appreciated. I am happy to share what I have with you. Thanks so much, Marci

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Subject: Boring Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:29:09 -0500 From: shirleys@ To: jwgrace@ I saw your query in Columbiana, OH. I have a Hannah Boring born 1841 to George Washington Boring and Nancy Gooshorn. Hannah married george Wahington Lewis , The had a son Wayne Bradshaw Lewis born Mar 16, either Richland or Vernon Co, WI Do you have any information on Hannah Shirley

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From: "Dawne Hicks" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Hoover Family Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 01:32:08 -0500

John, Just wanted you to know I'm not ignoring you and I haven't forgotten about you -- honest. I'm taking 2 summer classes at Texas A&M University and am 53 years old! Please be patient with me regarding getting the pictures. I apologize that I haven't already sent them. Thanks for the information you sent. It's great!! Dawne

From: "Dawne Hicks" To: Subject: Orrin T. Hoover Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:01:17 -0500

Hello, Orrin T. is also in my family tree as a son of John G. Hoover and Elizabeth A. Tichenor. I am trying to find info on Hoovers. Do you have anything else on them? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, Dawne (pronounced Dawn) Hicks

From: "Dawne Hicks" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Pictures -- FINALLY Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:37:26 -0500

John,I feel so good that I was able to do something nice for you!As for my connection, I THINK John G. Hoover might be William SingerHoover's father. William Singer Hoover was the father of Cyrus (Urius?)Hoover who was the father of George Henry Hoover who is mygreat-grandfather. William Singer Hoover was married to Elizabeth Casey andthey had nine children: Nelson, Charlotte, Anna, Byron, Cyrus (Urius?),Sarrah, Emma, Elmer, and Elmyria. We have bits and pieces on thesechildren, but not much.Take care.Dawne

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Grace" To: "Dawne Hicks" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:26 PMSubject: Re: Pictures -- FINALLY

> Dawne, thanks a million for the pics. They're great! I> forwarded then to my brother-in-law, and he'll get> them to his mother ASAP.>> You never told me exactly how your line ties in. Is> your great grandfather the George Hoover who married> Sarah Jackarias?

>> If I can find the correct address, I'll get in touch> with the Michigan Vital Records departemt and see if I > can get some marriage and death records for our> Hoovers.> Thanks so much for your kindness and generousity.

>> Best regards,> John

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From: CHLOHA@ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:04:36 EST Subject: The Hoover family To: jwgrace99@

John, Thanks for the info about Orrin. My mother told me that he had been the postmaster at one time in Chelsea and we had a huge American flag that had flown over the P.O. there. My father, being an engineer was a man of few words and never spoke about his parents to me. I am not a good computer person but once I found a Robert Hoover from Washentaw County, Mich. and I believe he might have been Orrin`s father. One of my father`s grandfathers was a wood worker and I have some of his old tools. I am sure that the info you had about another Orrin was someone else. We are goingto Susan`s the day after Christmas to celebrate a late Christmas with her family and won`t be home until Jan 7th. I`ll try to find more info and will ask my brother about the family but he is three years younger than I and doesn`t remember the Michigan grandparents. Thank you for doing this because I didn`t know how to start looking. Cherry

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From: "J. Leon Vanlandingham" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: John Nelson Ross and the Vanlandinghams Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:12:51 -0500

John, I have the same names for husbands of William and Martha Denton

Vanlandinghams daughters as you listed, but I have different names for

wives

of their sons Jeremiah and James. Their son Jeremiah married

Hester/Esther

Vanlandingham, daughter of James Vanlandingham, in 1838. William and

Martha's son James married Eleanor Perkins, daughter of Edmund Perkins,

in

1838. Following the custom in practice for the times, James & Eleanor

named

their first son William for James' father and their second son Edmund

for

Eleanor's father.

A Jeremiah Vanlandingham did marry Nancy Denton (in 1822), but he was a

son

of Richard Vanlandingham, Jr. And I have no record of a James

Vanlandingham

who married Eleanor Denton. And I have no record of an Eleanor Denton.

Leon

From: "J. Leon Vanlandingham" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: John Nelson Ross and the Vanlandinghams

Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:55:33 -0500

John, please tell me what documentation you found concerning the

appointment

of James Vanlandingham as guardian for John Nelson Ross. I am

interested in

the date and the location. I will then search my files for a James

Vanlandingham who may fill the bill. I have many, many James

Vanlandinghams

in my computer files.

Leon

From: "J. Leon Vanlandingham" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: John Nelson Ross and the Vanlandinghams

Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:01:03 -0500

John N. Ross and bride moved to Carter County because his mother and

step-father, Elizabeth and Joshua Vanlandingham, moved to Carter

County.

The Vanlandingham name, as far back as the 1600s, has often been

incorrectly

written as "Flanagen, Flanigan, etc.". Here is the 1850 Carter County

census:

1850 census, Carter Co., Kentucky (east of Bath), p. 237, dwg. 289:

Line 2. Joshua Flanegan 62 M farmer born NC cannot read or write

Line 3. Betsey Flanegan 56 F born KY "

Line 4. Linda Flanegan 15 F born KY

Line 5. Bewford Flanegan 12 M born KY

Line 6. Susana Ross 25 F born KY blind

1850 census, Carter Co., KY, p. 242, line 21: Volantine Flanegan, 20 M

laborer born KY (Note: Valentine (Volantine) was the first child born

to

Elizabeth and Joshua Vanlandingham).

Since William Denton signed the marriage bond for John Ross chances are

that

William was related to Elizabeth, possibly her father, or a brother.

If you

can find William Denton in the census record his age will indicate

whether

he was the father or brother of Elizabeth. Please advise me of any

additional information which you may find. I have information on

Joshua

Vanlandinghams siblings and his ancestors, but the data would cover

many

pages, so I cannot take the time right now, as I am trying to publish a

book

with the information.

Leon

From: "J. Leon Vanlandingham" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:

Subject: 1840 Bath Co., KY cemsis

Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:10:00 -0500

John, if you will e-mail me direct and give me John Nelson Ross' birth date (or approximate), and name of parents if available, I will try to help with your search.

Joshua Vanlandingham m/2 Elizabeth Ross, and she had children from her marriage to Ross. Josha and family were in the 1840 Bath Co., KY census. Joshua had a brother, James, who was in the Bath-Fleming area at the right time to have adopted Elizabeth's son John if for some reason he left Joshua and Elizabeth's home.

J. Leon Vanlandingham

Van1@

From: "J. Leon Vanlandingham" |To: "Grace John" Subject: book Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:05:24 -0500

VANLANDINGHAM GENEALOGY - VOLUME II

After many years in preparation, Volume II of the Vanlandingham family

history is finally ready. The book is large, 507 pages, 8-1/2 x 11, soft

backing, similar to a very large telephone directory. There are photos,

maps, descendant charts, copies of legal records and a complete index. The

family has been uniquely fortunate in the preservation of their early

records, and the book represents the combined efforts of a number of

interested descendants.

The history begins in Flanders, Belgium when many of the family were

knights during the time of the crusades. Michael Vanlandingham, the

immigrant ancestor, bought 450 acres on the south bank of the Potomac River

in Northumberland County, Virginia in1655. A few years later James

Washington, the grandfather of George, arrived in Virginia and became a

neighbor of Michael. Most of the Vanlandinghams in America are descendants

of Michael. The book traces the family line down to the present in many

instances. Information which has been used as a basis for membership in

Daughters of the American Revolution is included.

The number of books printed is limited, and additional copies probably will

not be printed. The book will be a source of great satisfaction to you and

your children and will become a treasured family heirloom for future

generations. Some may want to give a copy to a library as a Memorial.

The price, $35.00, includes postage and handling. Send check or money

order to:

J. L. Vanlandingham

717 Woodrow Circle

New Braunfels, TX 78130

Please pass along this news to other members of your family.

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From: "Jim Haldeman" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:

Subject:

Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:50:02 -0500

Just wanted to touch base on everything that is going on. Bill called Mom and gave her your flight number on TWA and your arrival time. She is assuming that Dad is picking you up at the airport, since he had offered and Bill did not say anything otherwise. I imagine Bill or David gave you the details of the calling hours on Monday, and the time of the funeral on Tuesday. If he did not, let me know and I can send them back to you. Before we found out that John had died earlier last night, Grant and I were planning on heading out to Isie's this morning, but since we thought they had so much to do today we decided not to go. When Bill called Mom she said Isie had a houseful and sounded as though there was a lot going on. Were you wanting to send flowers, and did you need help in doing so?

Now, speaking of all the commotion, I just need to let you know that Mom will not do well with large crowds in a small space, so I don't know how long she will hang around other than at the funeral home and cemetery. Since mid-December she has become noticeably more tired in a shorter period of time. After running some tests, Tom (her doctor) was able to pick up on some thyroid changes and has regulated that with medication. Some days she has more energy than others and a lot depends on how well she slept the night before. She has learned that when she doesn't sleep well, she just can't do much the next day. I was very surprised today when she said she got a good night's sleep last night. On the other side, I don't think Isie gives Mom much credit on being able to handle things (thinks she worries too much), Mom does much better when she knows exactly what is going on. I don't mean to tell you all of this to give you more to be concerned about, I just know you will notice a difference. I'm sure it will do everyone good to see the old friends and neighbors of John and Isie's.

Grant and I were driving in the car yesterday and he asked "How did Uncle John end up out in California anyway?" Then I said "You mean via Florida, Texas, and Hawaii?" So I think you have some explaining to do with your youngest nephew. To lighten things up-Grant joined an after school chess club. I think he thinks he is getting good. He wants to enter some area chess tournaments. I'm not sure that I am up to spending my Saturday afternoons hanging around a chess tournament, thank goodness his baseball games start in a month. He was chosen for the travel team, which is a lot of the same guys you saw him play with in Plain City.

Scott made the freshmen high school baseball team. We are very proud of him! His team had three scrimmages this past week, and they won all three. However, we do think the team will have a rough season. Scott feels that many of the kids (definitely not him) were picked because of their speed vs. their baseball skills. They are already seeing some problems at the plate. We spend last Sunday night with him in the emergency room tracking down a plastic surgeon. He ran into the tray that holds the chalk and eraser on a chalkboard, while at teen night at church. I think this occured during one of the adult supervised (fooling around) activites. He took a pretty good gash between his lip and chin. Even with the help of a plastic surgeon he's going to have a noticeable scar.

This has not been one of your shorter e-mails. Please confiirm that you received this, we could spend days telling you about the computer problems we have had over the last month. Grant greeted the most recent tech that came from the company we are now using by saying "So you're the one sleeping over tonight". The kid tells it like it is. We look forward to seeing you Monday.

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To: "John W. Grace" Subject: 1850 Census Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 02:16:24 -0600

Hello, again, John

Found my copy of 1850 Census -

District No. 1 in the County of Carter, State of Kentucky, enumerated by me on the 8th day of August 1850. J. P. Richards

Age Sex Occupation Value of Real Estate Birthplace

Richard Whitt 54 M Blacksmitih 500 Va

Rebecca 44 F Va Cannot read or write

Hanah 28 F Va Cannot read or write

James B. 22 M Labourer Va

Lavisa 15 F Va

James G. 13 M Va

Virginia L. McFarlane 7 F Ky

Jan

From: edjan@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Whitt

Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:17:07 -0600

Hi, John

No, I haven't heard of the Nethercutt clergyman. I had no idea that the Nethercutt men were affiliated with religion at all - Tell me more. Do you have very much information on the Nethercutts?

David and Solomon Nethercutt were sons of Jordan Nethercutt/Neithercutt who was either a brother or half-brother (long story) of my g g grandfather, George Nethercutt.

George married Rebecca Wells and their children were:

Susan m. Wm Armstrong

Moses m. Catherine Mauk

Sarah 'Sallie' didn't marry

William Henry m. 1st Elizabeth Van Bibber; m. 2nd Louise Oliver; m. 3rd Eugenia (Jones) Cook (Wm H. and Eugenia were my g grandparents)

George W. m. Sarah (Gee) Camron

Stephen didn't marry

Rebecca m. James G. Whitt

Newspaper clipping "From These Hills" by Mike Barker; Whitt Family, Part III by Nancy K. Masters, Olive Hill, KY

Edmund and Richard Whitt and their families arrived in Carter County some time in 1838-1839, having made the trip from Lee County, Va., along with kindred families and settled around the little Sandy River and Gimlet Creek areas. The children of Richard Whitt and Rebecca Whitt form the 4th generation and were:

Hannah Whitt, b. 23 Dec 1821, Russell Co., Va./d. 25 Dec 1900, Elliott Co./ m. 18 Dec 1841, Carter Co., to Miles McFarland. They were separated by 1850, but had one child: Virginia L. McFarland who m. 17 May 1862, Carter Co. to Albert Flannery. Virginia was b. ca 1843, Carter Co./d. ca 1873, Elliott Co. Children of Albert and Virginia were: Nancy B. Flannery, b. 1864; James H. Flannery, b. 1856; Isom F. Flannery, b. ca 1872

Susannah Whitt, b. ca 1823 Russell Co., Va./d. 18 May 1858, Carter Co., KY, m. 1st 30 Mar 1843 to James Sparks, m. 2nd ? Barnet. No known issue.

Edmund Whitt, Jr., b. 14 Nov 1825 Lee Co., Va./d. 18 Oct 1900, Elliott Co./m. ca 1849 to Mary Jane Perry, dau. of Sarah Perry Rose.

John Bunyan Whitt, b. 28 Dec 1827, Tazewell Co., Va./d. 23 Jun 1909, Elliott Co./m. 27 Sep 1868, Carter Co. to Susannah Maggard, dau. of David Maggard.

Nancy Belle Whitt, b. 18 May 1832 Russell Co., Va./d. 18 Jul 1891, Elliott Co./m. 14 Sep 1849, Carter Co. to John 'Jack' Kelly.

Lavisa Lee Whitt, b. 28 May 1834, Russell Co., Va./d. 2 June 1891 Elliott Co./m. 31 Aug 1852 Carter Co. to Henderson Rose, son of Sarah Perry Rose.

James G. Whitt, b. 11 Nov. 1836, Lee Co., Va./d. 1 Nov 1906, Elliott co./ m. 9 Feb 1860, Carter Co. to Rebecca Nethercutt.

There are 2 other children I found on another list; Jarvis B. b. ca 1828 and Louisa b. ca 1830.

"Carter County, a pictorial history" by George Wollford

WHITT FAMILY, descended from Edmund, who came from Virginia to Big Gimlet in 1839 with his grown and married family gathered around him. He was a son of Richard and Susannah Skaggs White and his mother was a sister of Long Hunters James, Henry and Richard Skaggs and also of Lydia Skaggs, who married Mathias Harmon of Harman's Station of Jenny Wiley fame. Edmund's children were Richard Price; Abijah; Lavisa, who married Hugh Boggs Jr.; Linney; and Rebecca, who married "Devil Dick" Whitt, her first cousin. For continuing interest, see Mrs. Nancy Masters, Olive Hill, or Mrs. Bert White, Sandy Hook.

WHITT, William B., merchant and wholesaler. Born 17 Sep 1867 at Whitt, son of Jack and Missouri Cox Whitt. Educated in local schools, at 17 took charge of father's general store. In 1895 located in Ashland, forming partnership with James H. Kitchen, incorporated in 1898 as Kitchen, Whitt & Co. In 1887 married Bertola Jarvis, who died in 1906; they reared five children. In 1907 wed Bessie J. Sexton and had six children. State senator, 1907-07; Ashland school board, and mayor of Ashland, serving until his death 19 Dec 1926. Democrat, Methodist (South), Mason.

There is more Whitt info in "Early Families of Eastern & Southeastern Kentucky' by Kozee, but it is scattered all thru the book. I've found so much conflicting data on this family. I'm sure that there are documents somewhere that would prove or disprove. Anxious to receive any information you have.Jan

From: edjan@ |To: Subject: Whitt Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:40 -0600

Hi,My name is Jan Nethercutt. I saw your message on the Whitt Family Message Board re Lavenia Witt. My great grandfather's sister, Rebecca Nethercutt, married James G. Whitt. Some sources state that James was Lavenia's brother. Would like to share and compare information. Any information on this family would be appreciated. Jan Nethercutt edjan@ Drumright, OK

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jwgrace99@ mail

John,

What a wonderful amount of research! I working through it. But keep

getting side tracked. Be patient with me. It is the first time, I've seen

James (son of James) married to Elizabeth Smith Harper. Usually either

Elizabeth Harper or Elizabeth Overall is married to James (b. 1735).

Please give me some time to work your files.

Bette

John,

I've been doing some checking, but have only found more questions. There

were at least 3 James Vanlandinghams in Bath and Fleming Cos. One James Van

was the son of William and Martha Denton Vanlandingham. He married Eleanor

Perkins 11 Nov 1836 in Fleming Co., KY. Eleanor was the daughter of Edmund

Perkins and Elizabeth Vanlandingham. Another James was married to

Elizabeth Winn. This is a strong possiblility. Are you aware that 7 of

Martha Denton Vanlandinghams brothers and sisters were married to 6 Hunt

brothers and sisters?

I can accept a Doc file and would love to have more information on the

Jacob Ross family. What can I send you? If I'm slow getting back to you,

it;s because I work 3 days a week. The other two I do the film ordering

for the Lebanon, OR Family History Center.

Bette

John,

I think we are going to have lots of fun. Where to start? Elizabeth

Denton Vanlandingham was born about 1803/1804. Her mother is Mary "Polly"

Hunt b. 1776 d. after 1828 in Randolph Co., IN. Mary is the daughter of

John Hunt and Mary Overall. Mary and Elizabeth were sisters and their

father was John W. Overall Sr,. I have no proff of this but have pieced

together a good picture. Which Vanlandingham did Elizabeth marry? Do you

have a fax?

Bette Oden

41250 McDowell Creek Dr.

Lebanon, OR 97355-9747

fax: 514-259-2612

John,

Yes, they are my 4th great grandparents. What help can I give you. Who

was Elizabeth Denton Vanlandinghams parents? How do you come into the

line? I have lots of information and will be willing to share with you.

How did you get my name?

Bette "Bette J. S. Oden"

sorry for the legth of time it has taken me to respond to your

querry, I did not have anyting on those listed in you querry. I do

have a little it is not much. Savatore Jennette, was born Dec 21,

1902 and died in March 13, 1992. Now I only have one that fits your

request and he is not in my data-base. Came accross both of these

when I was browsing the SS-Death-index while looking up some 1850-

1920 relatives. Carl Jennetta was born May 24, 1887 and died in March

of 1977 in Massachusetts. around the same town you mentioned

"Michelle Bell"

Care2 make the world greener

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van: jwgrace99

Aan: tvdzanden@wxs.nl

Datum: vrijdag 10 november 2000 23:00

Onderwerp: John Tulgay

John Tulgay came to America from The Netherlands in the early 1800's.

John

jwgrace99@

John, I don't show a Tulga nor a Sophia Zimmerman. I show an Elizabeth Zimmerman, but not the dates you show. I might want to look at my list of Zimmermans at:



Thanks for the query, Henry S. Dillon

jwgrace99 wrote:

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Subject: Terry Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:18:39 -0500 From: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us To: concho@ CC: frank2n2@, jwgrace99@, bkdozer@

Does anyone have any info on the marriages if any of David Terry and William Terry, sons of David Terry and Margaret Boring? These are the only two for whom I don't have marriages. One of these might be the one who married my Margaret Riley. The David Terry family is at

Subject: Re: Where were you? Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 08:33:10 -0400 From: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us To: jwgrace99@ « Previous | Next »

I am glad you got to talk with Melva Lee (Evans?). Her mom was Evelyn Hickman, Jack's girl. But then you have that already. I don't know why Annie would be reluctant to talk. I know some of the Finch history.

I think I saw Melva Lee once long long ago in a galaxy far far away. By the way, where do you live???? I was beginning to think something had happened to you after message bounced back.

Those files were mostly photocopies converted to JPEG or bmp files. Maybe you could contact Bonnie Kathleen Martin Dozer and get a direct copy of those files. She has two e-mail addresses: bkdozer@ cfdozer@ Those pages came from a Shirley Mikesell.

From: Luke Downey

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Subject: Re: Tom Downard

Date: 6/01/2001 @ 07:35:27 p.m.

Mr. Hickman,

I am Tom Downard, although my email states Luke Downey (this is done because

I am a public school teacher and try to keep my students from accessing my

personal email address--I can also be reached through my internet provider

email address which is: lucas@). I am the grandson of Thomas

Downard who was the son of Joshua Downard and Marilla Hartley Downard. Yes,

I am very, very familiar with Camp Bountiful, which was once the Downard

Family Farm. I live in Zanesville, Ohio which is about one and a half hours

north of Jackson County. In fact, my mother and sister still live in Jackson

County in the town of Wellston.

I am 44 years old and the son of George Edward Downard who was the son of

Thomas Downard who was the son of Joshua Downard. Joshua was the son of

James Downard and Mary Bruce Downard and Mary returned to live with Joshua

and Marilla on the family farm. In fact, my grandfather, Thomas lived on the

family farm with his sister Prudence until her death. In the 1950's the farm

was the victim of a flood, and Thomas and Prudence lived with my family for

over a year when we lived in Coalton, Ohio. In fact, I spent a great deal of

my childhood at the home of Susie Leach Milliken Wood, who was my father's

sister.

My grandmother, Eva Faulkner, upon the death of her first husband, Thomas

Jefferson Leach, married my grandfather, Thomas Downard. Susie was the child

of Eva and Thomas Leach. When my grandmother married Thomas Downard, their

children were as follows (I can

send you birth and death dates, if you like) Calvin b. 1905-d.1913, Clarence

b. 1908-d. 1909, George Edward (my father) b. 1910-d.1986, Neal (dates which

I will get from my mother), Tedie Eloise b. 1927-d.1929, and Anna (who is

still living in Palm Desert, CA).

Susie Leach was raised by my grandfather Thomas and his wife Eva Faulkner

Downard. I spent much of my childhood and adulthood in Aunt Susie's house in

Coalton, Ohio. Susie first married John Milliken, together they had several

children who I am still in contact with (Thomas, Jack, Charles, Jean,

Dorothy, Russ, and William). Both Susie Leach Milliken and John Milliken are

buried in Byer Cemetary which is located in Ray, Ohio. Both Susie's and my

father's grave are near their mother, Eva Faulkner Downard. Many of Susie's

children are buried near her, also.

In fact, my cemetary plot is located next to my father's in Byer

Cemetary--hopefully, I won't be using it anytime soon. After the death of

John Milliken, Susie married Fred Wood who owned a hardward store in Coalton,

Ohio. Their house was located next to the hardware store and one of her

grand daughters, Carol Milliken, still resides in Susie's house in Coalton,

Ohio. After the death of Fred Wood, Susie married one more time, but that

name I will have to get from my mother.

Once I sort through the information you have sent and cross check it with

mine. I will send you the information I have concerning the Downard

genealogy. If you have specific question you would like to ask, I would be

happy to answer them if I know the answers.

Please stay in touch.

Tom Downard

2070 Norwood Blvd.

Zanesville, Ohio 43701

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Subject: Re: Addendum to prior note

Date: 6/02/2001 @12:57:58 a.m.

Corrections to some of your information:

1. there is an Almira, but no information on her.

2. Pruda should be Prudence--married to Green B. Baileys (pronounced Ba-lis)

3. Rebecca-died in Mechanicsburg, Ohio

4. Thomas (my grandfather) married Eva Faulkner:

children were Calvin b. 13 July 1905 d. 05 Jan. 1913;

Clarence b. 23 Nov. 1908 d. 21 May 1909;

George Edward (my father) b. 10 March 1910 d. 23 November 1986;

Tedie Eloise b. 25 April 1927 d. 19 April 1928;

Neal--no birth date or death date but will get them soon, please ask in about

a month;

Anna--still living and married to Charles Shaw--resides in Palm Desert,

California;

also, a daughter from Eva Faulkner's first marriage to Thomas Jefferson Leach

named Susie who was raised by Thomas Downard and Eva Faulkner Downard. I

always knew her as Aunt Susie.

5. James married to Rosa E. Dollard; twin brother of Thomas. James died in

a mining accident of a fractured skull.

His children are: Zelda Downard who married Virgil Landrum;

Belle Downard who married Floyd Smith;

and Gusta Downard who had two children but never married;

and a son, Hayden Lamar b. 23 May 1925 d. 31 January 1928.

These are all children of Joshua and Marilla Hartley Downard. Thomas's

parents were Jame and Mary Bruce Downard. Joshua was previously married to

Nancy Cooper whom he divorced. They had three children, two of whom returned

to live with Marilla and Joshua when Nancy died.

May I please ask for your name, location, and connection to the Downard's.

Thank you.

Tom Downard

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Subject: Re: Tom Downard

The second wife of Thomas Leach, Eva Faulkner, remarried Thomas Downard, my

grandfather. Eva Faulkner's parents were Charles Faulkner and Madona Holland.

Susie Leach married John Milliken and the children of Susie and John Milliken

are: Thomas (dead), William (dead), Charles (alive and living in Wellston,

Ohio), Jack (dead, but his wife Betty lives in Coalton, Ohio), Russ (dead),

Gladys (dead), Jean (dead), and Ruth (living in New Haven, CT). When John

Milliken died, Susie remarried to Fred Wood who ran Wood's Hardware in

Coalton, Ohio. Eva Faulkner, Susie Leach Milliken, and most of Susie's

children are buried in Byer Cemetary in Ray, Ohio except for Jack and Thomas

Milliken who are buried in Coalton

Cemetary.

Indeed, Mary Leach who married Robert Lucas is part of my mother's family

tree. Robert Lucas was the brother of my gggrandfather Lewis Lucas. You may

be interested to know that Robert Lucas is buried in Paine Cemetary in

Wellston, Ohio near the state park known as Lake Alma which was named after

one of his daughter's Alma Lucas since the state park is on the land once

owned by the Alma Coal Company which was run by Alma's husband Robert Davis.

Lewis is buried in Evergreen Cemetary and just outside Coalton on the way to

Evergreen Cemetary is the "Lucas School" which was founded by Robert and

Lewis Lucas who inherited land given to them by their father Robert who

migrated to Ohio from PA. I am attaching a picture of the Lucas School for

you.

I'm wondering if you are related to Robert Leach who married my grandmother's

sister Hazel Dixon.

Tom Downard

--- Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us wrote:

>

> The offspring of Thomas Whiting Leach (including Susie Leach) are at



Thomas Whiting Leach was a son of Revolutionary War soldier George Leach.

I notice there is a Mary Leach marrying a Robert Lucas. Would this

perchance be in your mom's family tree????

Luke Downey on 06/04/2001 05:02:42 PM

To: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

cc:

Subject: Re: Addendum to prior note

Yes, they were cousins...their father's were brothers.

Tom Downard

--- Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us wrote:

>

> Do you happen to know whether Frances and Eva

> Faulkner were cousins???

Dean Hickman

06/05/2001 12:54 PM

To: "Gloria Quinroz"

cc:

Subject: Re: Leasures (Document link: Dean Hickman)

I have tried to mark comments in Red...hopefully they will come through ok.

Thanks.

To:

cc:

Subject: Leasures

Dean,

Okey, I had to stop and look up your name, your from the Elizabeth Downard

who married info the McGlaughlin family.

I am from the last child, Joshua Downard.

Jackson County marriage infomation has some errors, could have happened when

the lady was typing from the original records, that I dont know, but the

records should read, Joshua Downard married Nancy Cooper vice Copper ,and

also the list should read Samuel Downard vice Dowling who married Anna Wilbur.

In Milton Township, Jackson County, Ohio 1850 Census, dated 27 June 1850 is

listed:

Robert Wesley Cooper 46 yrs born in PA.

Margaret 43 PA

Delilah 16 OHIO

Benjamin 11 "

Margaret 8 "

Francis M. 6 "

Lydia 4 "

Susan 1 "

Nancy Cooper 80 (this would be the Mother of Robert W. Cooper)

Living in the next household is: (I have this excerpted in my files)

Joshua Downard age 18 born OHIO

his wife Nancy (Cooper) Downard age 18 born OHIO

Joshua Downard and Nancy Cooper were married 27 June 1850

Joshua Downard and Nancy had 3 children:

1. Robert Wesley Downard born 1854

2. Rachel Downard born 1856

3. Mary Downard born 1857

Joshua Downard and Nancy Cooper Downard divorced, there is a notice in the

"Express" newspaper, dated January 1864.

Joshua Downard 2nd marriage was to Marilla Harltey on 10 Dec 1865 in Jackson

Co., Ohio

Marilla's father was Thomas Hartley, her Mother was Prudence Newell,

Thomas married Prudence in Jackson Co., Ohio 6 Feb 1817, they had (******I

have some Hartley info....my mom was named for a Hartley)

1. Malinda Hartley, born 12/18/11817

2, Elisa Hartley born Circa 1824

3. Abitha Hartley born Circa 1825,she married Isaac Newell on 28 June 1845.

*******Tabitha Hartley

4. Albert born 12/25/1827 **********married Letitia Cook and after she died

Mary C. Full sister of Hannah Full Riley, wife of George Shively Riley,

brother to my ancestor Hannah Riley Hickman.

5. Marilla born Circa 1837 married Joshua Downard

6. Alfred born 1833, married Cartharine H. Martin on 13 April 1856

Joshua Downard and Marilla Hartley Downard had 5 children:

1. Almira Downard, born 1866

2. Prudence Downard born 26 June 1869, she married a Bailey. Prudence was of

the Morman faith.

****Green B. Baileys (pronounced Bayless)..also married Ethel McLaughlin

Ethel's ? child Zelda Baileys.

3. Rebecca Downard born 9 May 1872, married Henry Halterman, she had 3

children, there was a funeral held for Rebecca in Mechanicsburg, Ohio, but, I

have no date of death.

****Think he was son of Christian Halterman and Mariah Whaley Found him in

census Saturday night.

4. James E. Downard (A TWIN) born 10 June 1875, James was of the Morman

faith, he married Rosa E. Dollard on 1 Jan 1903, they had 4 children:

1. Hayden Lamar born 23 May 1925, died 31 Jan 1928

2. Zelda who married Virgil Landrum *************Virgil died about 20 years

ago..Zelda is still alive.

3. Belle who married Floyd Smith

4. Gusta, never married

5th child of Joshua and Marilla

Thomas Downard (the other twin) born 10 June 1875, he was of the Methodist

faith, married Eva Faulker on 13 Dec 1904 in Jackson Co., Ohio. 5 children:

(Tom Downard gave me these yesterday)

1. Susie, her first marriage was to John Milliken, 2nd marriage to Fred Wood

2. Calvin Downard

3. Clarence Downard

4. George Edward

5 Neal

6. Tedie Eloise

7. Anna who married Charles Shaw

I have a correction to the above list: Eva Faulkner was married to Thomas

Jefferson Leach prior to marriage to Thomas Downard, and the first child on

the list, Susie is from Eva first marriage, so it should read Susie Leach not

Downard. ******I knew this part*******Eva was first cousin to his first wife,

Frances Samantha, per Tom Downard. I didn't know what happened to Susie after

the 1910 census. Tom Downard said there was a third husband for Susie.

A Story:

Where Joshua's farm was located, now stands a Morman Day Camp. (Camp

Bountiful) The last known owner of Joshua's farm was the daughter Prudence,

she was a Morman, Zelda (James Daughter took care of Prudence in her last

days) she was also a Morman, so the story goes that either Prudence of Zelda

left the property to the Morman Church. (I would guess that Zelda and Virgil

gave it..Brother Sylva Landrum was a RLDS member too..Their father Lonnie

Landrum was married to Flora Bennington and ran off to Illinois after 1910

with Cora Larrabee Woods, a relative of mine; Lonnie left Flora and Cora left

Pete Woods)

NOW, we go back to Robert Wesley Cooper's family

Delilah Cooper married Adam Jordan in 17 July 1854 in Jackson County, Ohio,

Adam server in the Civil War, they had 15 children, 14 boys and 1 girl. I

have a picture of these 15 children: Ella, William, Thomas, Burt, Hattie,

Abraham, George Washington, Bertha, Roy, Drsey, Ollie, Anna or Henry????,

John Wesley, Lafayette (A TWIN) and the other twin is either Anna or Henry.

I have a picture of all the male children surrounding their Mother .

Then Adam Jordan died, and Delilah married ABRAHAM LEISURE, in Pike County,

Ohio

Abrahm Leisure was married to Elizabeth Marks, she died in childbirth in 1870

To make a long story short, Abraham Leisure and Delilah (Cooper, Jordan)

Leisure are buried in Smith Hill Cemetery, Pike County Ohio

Any questions???????????????/

Gloria

thefamily@

Cool....Thank you.......

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Subject: (no subject) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:41:09 EST From: DHenson928@ To: jwgrace@

Dear John: I hope you and Johnny are doing well. I had misplaced your e-mail address, however, I found it on "ROOTSWEB."

I know that you would want to know about my Dad. He is doing very poorly. Hospice is coming in to assist us. He has lung cancer, heart problems, and severe respiratory problems. He has "hung in there" much

longer than most of us would have. I think Ann Ross is coming to see him today. I thought you should know. Mom is just now starting to accept things. She has been in denial for some time. If you have spoken to her

recently, you probably did not get the true picture. Take care. Peace and Love, Cousin Dave

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From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:43:40 EDT Subject: Porter genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John, I am researching the Porter family of Platte County, MO for a friend. I know that she is related through the William Porter line and think it might be through Enoch. Do you have quite a bit of information on this family?

Judy VanZant Platte County, MO

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:25:16 EDT Subject: Re: Porter genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John, Let me know what ever you need I live with in 10 minutes of the Court house and am in there doing look ups a lot. I am doing the Porters for a friend Beverly Porter Payne. I sent her over an email to ask her for everything she knows. Her cousin, Jimmy Porter is our family minister. Jimmy's father Jim, and Bev's father are brothers. I also know, if you would like, that Jimmy mows and takes care of the old family cemetery. If you would like I can get photos. At one time Jimmy's son, Sam was here visiting while I was working on my family tree. He gave me a few names from the old cemetery. I think he said they came through a line that went from I think Joseph or James Franklin. Do you show a father son combination of this? When Bev responds to the email I should know a lot. Other wise I will see her, Wednesday evening at a softball game. Farley is still a small place. I think the population in 216. I haven't seen the states for 2000 yet. May have grown by a few:). Let me know what you might need a the court house.Judy

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:25:54 EDT Subject: Re: Porter genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John, I pulled these two entries from . have you looked at the actual census for Platte County 1860? This is just the index so I don't know who is in the rest of the family.

1860 KINNAMON GEORGE W. Platte County MO 841 Lee Township Federal Population Schedule MO 1860 Federal Census Index MO06071653

1860 KINNAMON JOHN Platte County MO 841 Lee Township Federal Population Schedule MO 1860 Federal Census Index MO06071652 I will go to Platte Co. Court house tomorrow or the next to see what I can find. Most of the marriage records don't have anything about the parents. I will look though and see what is on there. Do you want a copy for you records? Have you had anyone check in the Annuals of Platte County for the Kinnamon name? If not I can do that also. Let me know about that.Judy

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:25:33 EDT Subject: Re: Porter genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John, Farley is still here. I live 2 miles north of it. They have a population of 216. It sits along the MO River bluffs. Just over the river is Leavenworth, KS. The town of Harlem is very small also. It also sits right on the MO River. It is a town that is basically gone. It might have a population of 50. I found a women on line that says she has a copy of MO 1850 census I have emailed her and asked her to look for the Kinnamons. I hope we get a response. I will be going by the library today and will let you know what I find out. Judy

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:27:41 EDT Subject: Here it is. Fwd: 1850 Mo census look up To: jwgrace99@

John, I don't know if you will be getting this email first or the other one I sent. But here are the census results. It is a great find!!!From: RPhil74410@ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:29:15 EDT Subject: Re: 1850 Mo census look up To: Rlvjkv@ I didn't find that surname or anything close to it in the 1850 index of the book. In 1860 Lee township page 54 # 1128

KINANON , John 33 male b KY

Sarah 26 female b KY

Mary L 9 female b KY

Sarah 6 female b KY

Isadora 3 female b MO

George KINNAMON 66 male b MD Rochelle

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:38:48 EDT Subject: Re: Thank you! thank you! Thank you! To: jwgrace99@

John, I looked at the marriage record. It is just documented in a book, it is not a license per say. You do have the dates right. There was no mention of there ages. Just for the heck of it there I looked and there was also an Alice Kinnamon listed in the marriage record. I have forgotten know who she married. If you want to know I can look at that again. I couldn't find Sahara the first wife in any of the cemetery books.Judy

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:57:30 EDT Subject: Re: Kinnamons in PLatte County To: jwgrace99@

John, I found something at the Library yesterday that I thought you might want. It is the cemetery records for the Farley cemetery. It shows something odd. George Kinnamon 1-15-1794 d. 9-15-1866. Then it shows John Kinnamon b 2-5-1834 d. 9-15-1866. If this is the right date for John he would have died on the same day as his father and before the marriage of John and Missouri Porter in 1867. Do you think the John and George we found is the same John you are looking for? I also thought that the date in the book might just be wrong. What do you think?Judy

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From: joaniekk@ |Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:27:19 -0500 (CDT) To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Thomas Campbell

John,Could you please send me a list of Thomas's wives and children? My cousin, Peg , and I were discussing it the other night and she just couldn't get over a man having 5 wives and 23 children. I have 4 wives and 15 children so I am really missing some. I sure would appreciateit. I still haven't been able to find that much on my Campbell line.Any info you have sure would be appreciated.By the way, did you get a chance to go to the site and look at somepictures. Most of them are boring, but there are a few good ones. Supper is calling go I'd best go dish it up for the grandkids. Talk to you later. Your Cuz. Joan

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From: joaniekk@ | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:29:00 -0500 (CDT)

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: My line

Sherwood Tackett b. 5-8-1835 Pike Co. Ky d. 5-18-1907 Olive Hill, CarterCo. Ky, buried Memory Gardens Olive Hill, Ky. m.1. Mary L. Campbell7-10-1854

Children:

Thomas J. W. Tackett b. 8-17-1855 Carter Co. Ky d. 5-18-1921 Carter Co.

Ky. buried in Tackett Cemetery on Henderson Branch. m. Mary Polly Ann

Hicks d/o Henry Hicks and Sarah Nolan 6-10-1876

Rodisa Tackett b. 10-10-1857 Carter Co. Ky d. 2-1893 Lewis Co. Ky m.James McCleese

John B. G. Tackett b. 1-15-1859 Lewis Co. Ky d. 12-17-1910 Carter Co.

Ky/ buried in Memory Garden Cemetery next to his father m. Elizabeth

Hicks ( sister to Mary Polly Hicks)

Martha Tackett b. 1861 Carter Co. Ky m. McIntosh

family lost touch with her when she moved away

James Rufus Tackett b. 4-19-1867 Lewis Co. Ky. D. 11-4-1967 Carter Co.

Ky. buried in Pleasant Valley

Cemetery m. Myra Ellen Brown 3-1-1888

#2 Sarah E. Zornes on 3-3-1869

Children:

Moses Tackett

Charles C. Dick Tackett

William Tackett

Mary Tackett

Dora Tackett

Cora Tackett

Ora Tackett

________________________________________

Thomas J. W. Tackett b. 8-17-1855 d. 5-18-1921

m. Mary Polly Ann Hicks b. 7-22-1858 d. 12-11-1934 Children:

Thomas Henry Tackett b. 5-14-1877 Carter Co. Ky

d. 7-1-1950 Loveland Ohio, buried Union Cemetery. Loveland Ohio m. #1

Alice Hicks #2 Rena Manning Eldridge

Mary L. Tackett b. 2-1-1879 Carter Co. Ky d. 6-30-1956 Il. m. John

Price

William S. Tackett b. 9-28-1883 Carter Co Kyd. 11-25-1953 m. Maggie

Wells 9-28-1903

Cora Frances Tackett b. 5-5-1885 Carter Co. Ky d. 10-2-1966 Irondale OH

m. Hezekiah Hackney 1-1-1901

Albert Quentin Tackett b. 9-12-1887 Carter Co. Ky d. young

Rachel Rodisa Tackett b. 9-2-1889 Carter Co. Ky d. 12-25-198 VanPort PA

m. #1 Willis Campbell 2-10-198 Carter Co. Ky #2 Jesse Bailey 8-27-1913

George Ernest b. 3-22-1892 Carter Co. Ky d. 10-2-1970 Fleming Co. Ky m.

Shrilda Ingram 10-5-1908

Parthena Tackett b. 27-2-1894 Carter Co. Ky d. 4-20-1964 buried with

her parents in the Tackett Cemetery m. Henry Blankenship 11-5-1908

Nellie Hudgin Tackett b. 7-23-1896 Carter Co. Ky d. 5-22-1976

Vermillion Co. Il. m. John Dickison

_______________________________________

Thomas Henry Tackett b. 5-17-1888 d. 7-1-1950 m. #1 Alice Hicks d/o

Elijah and Elisha Hicks ( divorced her ) #2 Rena Manning Eldridge d/o

Mary Cornett Eldridge and Richard Manning ( born out of wedlock) buried

Union Cemetery Loveland Oh

Children:

#1

Willa Susan b. 12-18-1896 Carter Co. Ky d. 6-26-1983 buried Garvin

Ridge Cemetery Olive Hill , Carter Co. Ky m. Claude Wells 5-27-1915

#2.

James Tackett b. 1906 Carter Co. Ky. d. abt 1942/43 in a motorcycle

accident m. Nell Hoover

they had 5 children: James, Walter, Ish, Nadine ?

all living I think

George Harvey Tackett b. 1-10-1907 Carter Co. Ky d. 11-1969 Ca buried

in

Union Cemetery Loveland Oh. m. #1 Wilma Hiney #2 Ruth ?

they had 6 children : George, James, Glenn, Rena, Dottie, Sonja-George

passed away

Polla Tackett b. 2-12-1909 Carter Co. Ky d. 8-1992 Oh. buried in Union

Cemetery Loveland Oh. m. Joesph McDaniel

they had 5 children: William , Fred, Phyllis ( oldest grandchild)

Marceline, Carol Sue,- Marceline has passed away

Zivra Tackett b. ? Carter Co. Ky - living m. Madison Graves

they had 3 children: Judith, Rodney, Polly , all living

Ishmail Tackett b. ? Carter Co. Ky d. 12-1999 Corbin Ky buried in East

Liverpool , Oh. m. #1 Florence Pyle #2 Pauline ?

they had 1 child Margaret (Peg) living

Herbert Tackett b. ? Carter Co. Ky. - living m. #1 Martha ? #2 Ann ?

they had 5 children: Janet, Carol Sue, David , Thomas, Rita Ann- Tommy

and Rita have passed away

Thelma Tackett b. 5-17-1918 Carter Co. Ky. d. 4-1992 Fl. buried in

Union

Cemetery Loveland Oh.

m. #1 Chester Lucas #2 Ernest Magnone #3 Edward Wulf

she had 1 child with #1: Joyce living

Curtis Quentin "Bud" Tackett b. 7-13-1920 Irondale Oh d. 9-28-1992

Cincinnati Oh. buried Union Cemetery Loveland Oh. m. Alice J. Fugate

d/o

Simpson Fugate and Mahala Davidson b. 9-16-1920 d. 12-11-1986 buried

Union Cemetery Loveland Oh.

they had 3 children: Joan, Diana , Donna all living

Mary Catherine "Katie" Tackett b. 12-6-1922 Irondale Oh. b. 1998 Walton

Co. Ky buried Union Cemetery Loveland, Oh m. #1 John Mace #2 James

Leigh.

had 2 children with #1 -one of which was adopted

Jon. Rebecca (adopted)

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Curtis Q. "Bud" Tackett b. 7-13-1920 d. 9-28-1992

m. Alice J. Fugate b. 9-16-1920 Perry Co. Ky d. 12-11-1986

Joan S. Tackett b. 2-6-1940 Cincinnati Oh-living m. James KuyKendall b.

7-15-1934 Cincinnati Oh, d. 1-17-2000

Diana J. Tackett b. 6-24-1942 - living m. #1 Jerry Saylor #2 Jack Smith

had 4 children w/ #1 : Merry Alyce, Jennifer Joan, Rebecca Sharmane,

Rachel Catherine

Donna M. Tackett b. 8-17-1948 - living m. James Weidus

had 2 children: James Sean , Stephanie

________________________________________

Joan S. Tackett b. 2-6-1940 Cincinnati Oh - living m. James B.

KuyKendall s/o Ollie G. KuyKendall and Artie C. Wyatt b. 7-15-1934

Cincinnati Oh. d. 1-17-2000 Sevierville, Tn. buried Alan's Chapel

Cemetery , Cosby Tn.

Michelle S. KuyKendall b. 3-22-1962 St. Petersburg Fl. d. 11-19-1964

Cincinnati OH

Dawn M. KuyKendall b. 8-17-11964 Cincinnati Oh.- living

Amanda J. KuyKendall b. 8-17-1967 Cincinnati Oh. -living m. Jon Payne -

3 children

James C. KuyKendall b. 12-28-1969 Cincinnati Oh. - living m. Tina

Pullaro - 3 children

Christopher A. KuyKendall b. 7-26-1973 Cincinnati Oh. - living

________________________________________

This is my family line. Don't know if you wanted all of this but here

it is. I don't think I have ever put it all together like this before.

Guess a computer gedcom would make it much easier. Maybe someday I

will

do that.

Thank you so much for sending me the info on Thomas J. I sure will

flesh out my line for him.

Your Cuz

Joan

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Genealogy of Vanlandingham/McGary/Burk/Naylor/Flanigan/Hayden/Adams Family

Stewart Vanlandingham

b. Abt. 1828

d. Aug. 1895

Sarah A. Burk Vanlandingham

b. unknown

d. unknown

m. July 9, 1863, Bath Co., Ky

Children of this marriage:

1. unknown Boy

2. unknown Girl

3. Thomas J. Vanlandingham

b. 1864

d. Jan. 19, 1882

Never married

4. George Washington Vanlandingham

b Sept. 24, 1867

d. May 7, 1945

m. Mary Jane McGary (see info on this marriage below)

5. Jeremiah Vanlandingham

b. 1870

d. 1928

m. Sarah Spence

Children of Jeremiah and Sarah:

1. Carlos Fletcher Vanlandingham (King Flanigan) Carlisle, KY

2. John Vanlandingham

Owingsville, Bath Co., KY

3. James Vanlandingham

New Castle, Indiana

4. Hayes Vanlandingham

Goshen, Ohio

5. Adrain Vanlandingham

Carlisle, KY

6. Nona Vanlandingham Pack

Hispire, PA

7. Mary Vanlandingham (no info)

8. Sarah Vanlandingham (no info)

9. Ardie Vanlandingham (no info)

10.Faye (Bobbi) Vanlandingham Billings

Dayton, Ohio

Mary Jane McGary (wife of Geo. Vanlandingham)

b. July 23, 1869, Athens, Illinois

d. Nov. 20, 1947, Havana, Illinois

married on Feb. 22, 1891 in Athens, Menard Co., Illinois

Children of George and Mary Jane:

1. Jerry (born before 1893, unknown death date)

2. Mabel Frances Vanlandingham

b. Jan. 16, 1893 in Athens, Illinois

d. 1957 Astoria, Illinois

m. Emery Hines, 1911

3. Arthur William Vanlandingham

b. Nov. 4, 1895 in Athens, Illinois

d. 1958, Petersburg, Illinois

m. Ellen Gillmore

Children: Mildred

4. Roy Elva Vanlandingham

b. April 22, 1896, Athens, Illinois

d. Sept. 18, 1914

Not married

5. Nina Vanlandingham

b. 1900, Athens, Illinois

d. 1923

m. Ruben Green

6. Viola Belle Vanlandingham

b. July 13, 1902, Athens, Illinois

d. 1976, Havana, Illinois

m. Frank Evans

children: Francis, Maxine and Mary

m. Ruben Green

children: Violet and Bonnie Kay

7. Earl Eugene Vanlandingham

b. Nov. 13, 1904, Athens, Illinois

d. Unknown

8. Harold Raymond Vanlandingham

b. Aug. 13, 1907, Petersburg, Illinois

d. 1974

m. Mabel Zimmerman

children: Faye Irene, Dale and Harold Wayne

9. Unknown child born before 1913

10. Chester J. Vanlandingham

b. Feb. 11, 1913, Mason City, Illinois

d.

m. Alice Lehman, Canton, Illinois

children: Richard and Ramon

11. Dorothy Mae Vanlandingham

b. October 8, 1916, Mason City

d. October 8, 1979, Long Beach, Ca.

m. Walter J. Parks, May 16, 1942, Van Buren, Arkansas

children: Roxanne Rae

Parents of Mary Jane McGary:

William McGary

b. Oct. 24, 1844, Kentucky

d. June 4, 1910, Menard Co., Illinois

Rachel S. Naylor

b. April 11, 1848, Kentucky

d.

Children of William and Rachel:

1. Mary Jane McGary (see above)

2. Sophia McGary b. 1876

3. Harvey McGary b. 1878

4. Nellie McGary

5. Sarah McGary b. 1874

Parents of William McGary:

Jacob McGary

b. March 29, 1821, Pennsylvania

d. March 7, 1899, Menard Co.,

Sarah Adams McGary

b. Nov. 22, 1820, Fleming Co., Ky.

d. Oct. 16, 1859, Menard Co.,

m. Nov. 30, 1841, Fleming Co., KY

Parents of Sarah Adams McGary and Mary Adams Naylor

John Adams/Sophia Hayden Adams (see info below on this marriage)

Children of Jacob and Sarah:

1. John A. McGary

b. Dec. 4, 1842, Fleming Co., Ky.

d. July 13, 1872, Menard Co.,

2. William McGary (see above)

3. Sophia McGary

b. May 25, 1853, Menard Co.,

d. Feb, 16, 1855, Menard Co.

4. Mary E. McGary

b. July 31, 1858, Menard Co.

d. Sept. 1, 1859, Menard Co.

Martha A. Pierce McGary (second wife of Jacob McGary)

b. Nov. 3, 1824 Fleming Co., Ky.

d. Mar. 25, 1900, Menard Co.

m. Jan. 26, 1860

Children of Jacob and Martha:

1. Belle McGary

b. 1860

d. 1934

m. James O. McKee

2. James Edward

b. Abt. Dec. 1862

d. Aug. 4, 1866

3. Anna E. b. 1862

4. Unknown child

5. Unknown child

Parents of Rachel Naylor:

George W. Naylor b. 1827, Fleming Co., KY

Mary E. Adams b. 1827, Fleming Co., KY (sister of Sarah Adams McGary)

Children of George and Mary:

Emely Jane

Sophia

John S.

Rachel

Sarah Elizabeth

Parents of Mary E. Adams Naylor and Sarah Adams McGary

John Adams

b. 1798

d. 1878

Sophia Hayden Adams

b. Sept. 2, 1797

d. Oct. 24, 1880

m. May 29, 1817, Fleming Co., KY

Children of John and Sophia:

Mary E. (m. George W. Naylor, see above info on this marriage)

Sarah (married Jacob McGary, see above)

William (m. Lucinde Royse, 5-12-1845, Fleming Co., KY

Parents of Sophia Hayden Adams

Barnabus Hayden

b. June 21, 1765

d. April 27, 1855

Sarah McCallen

b. March 26, 1774

d. Oct. 26, 1857

m. 1793, Fleming Co., KY

Note: Hayden family line can be traced back to John Alden and Priscilla Mullins who came from England on the Mayflower

Family history to be continued as info becomes available..

Thanks to my cousin Gladys Evans Hyde for scanning all the pictures I have used and Karen Thompson, Jeanne Weaver and J. Leon Vanlandingham for the information you have contributed for my website..couldn't have done this without your pictures and family history..and thanks, Mom, for writing what you knew in my babybook..wish you were here to see what I have done to honor you and Dad...I miss you.

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From: JROY6666@ |Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 02:23:07 EDT Subject: Fwd: Something unusual To: jwgrace99@

Hi John:Hope you have a nice 4th. I am still going to try and get those names to you. I can't get some of my family to respond, may just send what I have. I would love to know more about my grandfather's people Samuel Madison Henson as a man has put in a museum in Killen, Ala. and he wants all the info on my grandfather he can get since he was one of the older families.I am having such a hard time with my gums and teeth, its been nearly a year and the light at the end of the tunnel appears to be a train. I am just devastated by the pain and the expense of all of this and I have several more times to go to B'ham and its hard on us to make the trip. Thought you would enjoy this, my cousin sent to me.Carolyn

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From: joaniekk@ |Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:06:19 -0500 (CDT) To: jwgrace99@ Subject: James W. McCleese

John I was searching in the Lewis Co. Ky archives and found a message. James w. McCleese m. Dicie Tackett, His parents are listed asThomas McCleese and Cynthia (no maiden name given) Jim and Dicie had a son Wyett who married America Blankenship , they had a daughter,Virgie, who married an Adkins. Is this part of what you were looking for ?Joan

From: joaniekk@ |ate: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:01:50 -0500 (CDT) To: jwgrace99@

John, How long have you been researching the family? You have so many lines going. I have only been doing it for less than 3 years and seriously for only about 1 year. I am still in the process of just trying to find the grandparents and their children. I can't imagine going into all the side lines. Hopefully when my daughter gets the kids a computer next year I will get a gedcom CD ( is that right ) and get it all on a disc. I really don't know the first thing about computers or doing stuff like that but I will give it a shot. But I will never give up my paper and file system. I have to have something to put my hands on. We have several things similar in our lives. I was born Feb. 6, only in 1940 and in Ohio , just like you . Since you were stationed in Tampa, I assume you were at McDill AFB. I lived in St. Petes in the early 60's and we had some fiends who didn't have a car and we would take them to the commissary at McDill. This was when the Cuban crisis had the flight lines filled and ready to go . AND I have lived in Oakland Ca. Only this was way back in 1945/46. My dad was in the Navy and stationed out there. He was not suppose to be shipped overseas so Mom took my sister and me and moved there. Three months later dad was shipped out. After the war ended we stayed there for about a year and then moved back to Cincinnti. But I can still remember the Golden Gate bridge and the park and the seals in the bay. But I have never been to Hawaii. My husband always said that if he ever went there he would never ever come back home again. He really loved the beaches and mostly the sunsets. He said the clouds out over the water where like no other clouds anywhere. Children are wonderful, aren't they? They make our lives and fulfill us. Sounds like Johnny is lucky to have a Dad like you. Now I am off to try to find a 1880 and 1890 census for Rowan Co. Ky . Although I am not sure if my G grandfather was in that county then. Since I have found my Maternal G grandmother I need to find my maternal G grandfather. Since they were never married and it was a topic never discussed in the family I am having a rather difficult time of it. Alsoit has been said that he changed his name from something else to RichardManning because he was 1/2 Indian and that was frowned upon back inthose days. If you visit the Wells/Tackett site again my grandmother isRena Tackett and you can see a definate Indian influence in herfeatures. One of her sons said he was Cherokee and a daughter, stillliving, has told me she thinks he was Shawnee. Either way I am have atrying time pinning him down. So I am off to search some more. Talk to you later.Your CuzJoan

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From: ppp165b@ |To: jwgrace99@ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:15:00 -0400 Subject: Tulga

I am sorry I cannot remember if I answered you.My grandmother was Anna Catherina Tulga Fullerton. All I know about her is that she had one brother and he was married. I would be glad to exchange but my part is very little. I can tell you about her life with my grandfather and about her children and grandchild and great grandchildren.If you can help me with information about her family I would appreciate this so very much. If you do not feel that you can share if you could direct me in the correct direction so that I will at least have some place to start looking this would be appreciated.Carol Fullerton Watson

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:36:46 -0500 From: Mitch_Penny |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: "Vanlandingham"

Hi, I am related to the Vanlandingham's. I have went back as far asWilliam T. Vanlandingham that married Hannah Turner. These people arefrom Bath County and they are my great great grandparents. I was toldWilliam's father was Benjamin. I noticed the same Vanlandingham familieslisted twice in the 1860 census...I do not know for sure if I am relatedto these people are not I am still trying to find out...How are yourelated? Hope to hear from you soon, Penny Vanlandingham Smithson

Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 18:35:32 -0500

From: "Mitch&Penny" |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: "Vanlandingham"

Hi, I am related to the Vanlandingham's from Bath Co., Kentucky. I donot know if they are the same ones or not. I have been told that all theVanlandingham's are related somehow. I have got my ancestors back toBenjamin Vanlandingham 1845-47 from Bath Co. William T. Vanlandinghamwas his son and he married Hannah Turner. They had 3 children together.Clarence, Allen and Samuel. Samuel was my great grandfather. He died in1988 in Marion, Indiana. If you think that this is the same line pleaseget in touch. I have some census from Bath Co. I have also noticed thatAlfred Vanlandingham and his family was in the census twice. I have notfigured that one out either and still trying to see if I am related tothis set of Vanlandingham's too. Are you related or just researching theVanlandingham line? Hope to hear from you soon...Penny VanlandinghamSmithson

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Saturday, July 08, 2000

Subject: Descendants of John Pieratt and Anna Maxey

Posted by: Glen Maxey

Message: I'm interested in collecting descendants of John Pieratt and Anna Maxey. I am collecting all Maxey lines descending from Edward Maxey of Virginia.

Glen Maxey

Box 2505

Austin TX 78768 RepGMaxey@

This is what I have:

Descendants of Reuben Volantine Pieratt

1 Reuben Volantine Pieratt

. +Elizabeth (Earce) Ayre

2 John Pieratt b: December 13, 1790 in Baltimore Co., Maryland d: March 3, 1875 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... +Anna Maxey b: July 10, 1797 in Buckingham Co., Virginia d: August 8, 1848 in Morgan Co., Kentucky m: October 9, 1814 in Bath Co., Kentucky

. 3 Eli Pieratt b: April 6, 1816 in Kentucky d: March 25, 1900 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... +Gillie Ann Nickell b: September 27, 1816 d: May 27, 1903 m: March 10, 1838 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 James Morton Pieratt

....... +Rose Ellen Swango

..... 5 Steve Pieratt

......... +Victoria Kendall

....... 6 Gladys Pieratt

........... +Bud White m: in Prestonburg, Kentucky

......... 7 Steven White

......... 7 Anne White

............. +-------- Meale

....... 6 Martha Rose Pieratt

........... +James Monroe Nesbitt b: in Mt Sterling, Kentucky m: in Mt Sterling, Kentucky

..... 5 Greenberry Pieratt

......... +Anna [Greenberry Pieratt] ------- b: in Chicago, Illinois

..... 5 Lizzie Pieratt

......... +Charlie Duff b: in Montgomery Co., Kentucky

....... 6 Virginia Rose Duff

........... +Sideny Calk

... 4 Raney Maxey Pieratt

....... +Elizabeth Swango

..... 5 Buford Pieratt

......... +Effie Maxey

....... 6 Lucille Pieratt

........... +John D Henry

....... 6 Elizabeth Pieratt

..... 5 Clara Pieratt

... 4 Andrew Thomas Pieratt

....... +Caroline Johnson m: in Haxel Green, Kentucky

..... 5 Emma Ellen Pieratt

......... +John Floyd Lockhart, MD

....... 6 Nancy Caroline Lockhart

........... +E Ward May

......... 7 Jack May

............. +Caroline Held

........... 8 Nancy May

........... 8 Albert May

....... 6 Eliza Thomas Lockhart

..... 5 Eli Franklin Pieratt

......... +Ida Moore Oakely m: February 2, 1898 in Ezel, Kentucky

....... 6 Pearl Thomas Pieratt

........... +John E Goff m: January 2, 1924

... 4 Asa Burton Pieratt

....... +Clara Swango

..... 5 Dorsie Pieratt

..... 5 Renay Pieratt

... 4 Eliza Pieratt

....... +Samuel Goodwin b: in Ezel, Kentucky

..... 5 Asa Floyd Goodwin

......... +Elizabeth Rayborn b: in Montgomery Co., Kentucky

....... 6 Rayborn Goodwin

....... 6 Asa Floyd Goodwin

........... +Mary [Asa Floyd Goodwin] -------

..... 5 Floyd Goodwin

..... 5 John E Goodwin

......... +Cora Nickell

....... 6 [2] Eliza Goodwin

........... +[1] -------- Kash

....... 6 Guy Goodwin

........... +Viola Faulkner b: in Levee, Kentucky

......... 7 Ruth Goodwin

....... 6 Beatrice Goodwin

........... +-------- Brown

..... 5 Ollie Goodwin

..... 5 Ellie Goodwin

..... 5 Emma Goodwin

... 4 Emily Pieratt

....... +Andrew J Nickell

..... 5 Tommie Nickell

......... +Mary Ellen Lykins

....... 6 Renay Nickell

........... +Edna Carter

......... 7 Gladys Carter

......... 7 Margaret Carter

....... 6 Franklin Nickell

....... 6 Kelly Nickell

........... +Ada Williams

......... 7 Lyman Gardner Nickell

......... 7 Colman Nickell

......... 7 Mary Frances Nickell

......... 7 Jo Ann Nickell

......... 7 Nancy Nickell

......... 7 Betty Lou Nickell

......... 7 Kelly Malone Nickell

....... 6 Clarence Nickell

........... +Betty Jane Roberts b: in Bourbon Co., Kentucky

......... 7 Leo Carroll Nickell

......... 7 Virginia Lee Nickell

....... 6 Vernie Nickell

........... +Effie Kendall

......... 7 Lisle Nickell

....... 6 Ruby Nickell

....... 6 Ina Nickell

........... +-------- Jones b: in Clark Co., Kentucky

....... 6 Dropha Nickell

........... +Jim Turley b: in Clark Co., Kentucky

......... 7 Katy Turley

......... 7 Polly Turley

......... 7 Eugene Turley

....... 6 Grace Nickell

........... +Leonard Tune b: in Clark Co., Kentucky

......... 7 Jo Wanda Tune

......... 7 Edward Tune

......... 7 Wayne Tune

..... 5 Sister Nickell

......... +Jim McQuire

....... 6 Emma McQuire

....... 6 Lizzie McQuire

........... +-------- Kash

......... 7 Faye Kash

......... 7 [1] -------- Kash

............. +[2] Eliza Goodwin

....... 6 Asa McQuire

....... 6 Eli Franklin McQuire

..... 5 Nora Nickell

......... +D M Murphy

....... 6 Carl Murphy

....... 6 Roy Murphy

....... 6 Dillard Murphy

....... 6 Daisy Murphy

........... +-------- Cecil

. 3 Valentine [Volentine] Pieratt b: March 10, 1818 in Kentucky d: September 24, 1890 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... +Dulcena [Dulcina] Nickell m: December 27, 1838 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 James Thomas Pieratt b: September 12, 1840 d: August 13, 1904

....... +Ellen Cox b: 1840 d: 1925

..... 5 Henry Franklin Pieratt d: 1942

......... +Sarah Alice Combs b: 1871 d: 1940

....... 6 Herald Pieratt

........... +Mable Tudor

......... 7 William Pieratt

......... 7 Delia Pieratt

......... 7 Robert Pieratt

......... 7 Sheldon Pieratt

....... 6 Mary Ellen Pieratt

....... 6 Thomas Seweel Pieratt

....... 6 Bruce Pieratt

..... 5 Fannie Pieratt

..... 5 Morton Pieratt

..... 5 Curtis Pieratt

... 4 John H Pieratt

... 4 Joseph Pieratt

... 4 Franklin Pieratt

... 4 Gillie Anne Pieratt

... 4 Phoebe Pieratt

. 3 Thomas J Pieratt b: January 10, 1820 in Kentucky d: September 30, 1876 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... +Elizabeth Cox b: May 6, 1821 in Hazel Green, Kentucky d: May 1, 1904 in Morgan Co., Kentucky m: March 3, 1842 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 John (Long) S Pieratt b: January 17, 1843

... 4 Sarah Ellen Pieratt b: September 30, 1844

... 4 Dorinda [Derinda] Pieratt b: May 31, 1847

... 4 James P H Pieratt b: February 26, 1849

... 4 Columbus C (C C) Pieratt b: January 11, 1851

... 4 [5] Milton (Lum) Worth Pieratt b: April 8, 1853 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: October 2, 1928 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

....... +Eliza Eveline Lockhart b: March 10, 1854 d: January 2, 1902 m: September 4, 1873 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 Rinda Etta Pieratt b: July 21, 1874 d: June 1928

..... 5 Elijah Morton Pieratt b: March 6, 1876 d: October 6, 1949 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

......... +Lula May Samples d: January 27, 1919

....... 6 Earl Pieratt b: March 27, 1901 d: June 18, 1929

....... 6 Earnest Pieratt b: February 15, 1904 d: May 19, 1983

........... +Lillian Delpha Taylor

......... 7 Donald Edwin Pieratt b: January 12, 1931

............. +Carolyn Jean Moore

........... 8 Bryan Pieratt

......... 7 Norma June Pieratt b: March 16, 1935

............. +James Sturm

........... 8 Christopher James Sturm

........... 8 Joseph Sturm

........... 8 Kathy Sturm

......... 7 Nancy Caroline Pieratt b: April 10, 1938

......... 7 [3] John David Pieratt b: February 14, 1941 in Saline Co., Illinois

............. +Scarlett Anne Johnston b: September 26, 1939 in Caney, Kentucky m: September 9, 1959 in Newport, Kentucky

........... 8 Jennifer Lynn Pieratt b: December 16, 1959

............... +Randall Bluhm

............. 9 Candace Shivonne Bluhm

............. 9 Sean Richard Bluhm

............. 9 Dennis Alden Bluhm

........... 8 Suzanne Marie Pieratt b: January 1961

............... +Keith Turner

............. 9 Christopher Turner

............. 9 Allison Turner

............. 9 Stephen Turner

........... 8 Cynthia Elaine Pieratt b: July 1963

............... +Steve Jackson

............. 9 Jeremy Jackson

............. 9 Aimee Jackson

............. 9 Scarlett Lindsay Jackson

........... 8 Cheryl Lee Pieratt b: December 1965

............... +Troy Kohagen

......... *2nd Wife of [3] John David Pieratt:

............. +Nancy Elizabeth Ranney b: January 30, 1954 in Monmouth, Illinois m: March 16, 1979 in Carlisle, Illinois

........... 8 [4] Gina Marie Howell b: December 20, 1975

............... +Maurice Carl Freeman

............. 9 Erica Marie Freeman

............. 9 Natalie Marie Freeman

........... *2nd Husband of [4] Gina Marie Howell:

............... +Jimmy Ellis, Jr

............. 9 Logan Ellis

....... 6 Everett Pieratt b: June 29, 1906 d: October 5, 1978

....... 6 Elmer Pieratt b: February 22, 1909

....... 6 Ida Mae Pieratt b: February 19, 1911

..... 5 Minnie Ellen Pieratt b: February 13, 1878 d: October 26, 1878

..... 5 Cora Jane Pieratt b: September 25, 1879 d: June 19, 1880

..... 5 Columbus Pieratt b: July 17, 1881 d: 1940

..... 5 Thomas Clay Pieratt b: August 12, 1885 d: October 18, 1919

..... 5 Euella Thorn Pieratt b: August 11, 1887 d: 1972

..... 5 Raney Worth Pieratt b: September 13, 1889 d: August 3, 1975

..... 5 Linnie Pieratt b: October 6, 1889 d: April 8, 1869

..... 5 Anna Manker Pieratt b: May 15, 1893 d: October 15, 1972

......... +Boone Mannin

... *2nd Wife of [5] Milton (Lum) Worth Pieratt:

....... +Jennie Jones m: June 4, 1903

..... 5 Iva Pieratt b: April 26, 1904 d: November 23, 1978 in Middletown, Ohio

..... 5 Ina Pieratt b: May 6, 1906

..... 5 Hazel Pieratt b: May 27, 1908

... 4 Thomas J Pieratt b: March 13, 1856

... 4 Mary Ann Pieratt b: March 20, 1859 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: February 6, 1946 in Middletown, Ohio

....... +Richard Menifee Sexton b: December 23, 1849 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: February 8, 1930 in Middletown, Ohio m: September 15, 1875 in Morgan Co., Illinois

..... 5 Eva Sexton

..... 5 Pollie Ann Sexton b: July 16, 1876

..... 5 Asey C (Ace) Sexton b: April 14, 1878

..... 5 Tom Sexton b: August 4, 1882

..... 5 Myrtle Sexton b: January 24, 1885

..... 5 Derinda (Ninnie) Sexton b: March 27, 1887

..... 5 Nannie F Sexton b: January 21, 1889

..... 5 Margaret Ellen Sexton b: October 31, 1891

..... 5 Omar Sexton b: June 1, 1894 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: February 12, 1961 in Middletown, Ohio

......... +Polly Wells b: April 21, 1892 in Wellington, Kentucky d: October 23, 1962 in Middletown, Ohio m: October 4, 1916 in Menifee Co., Kentucky

....... 6 Winfred Louise Sexton

........... +Glen Frank Lyons b: November 22, 1916 in Middletown, Ohio d: May 9, 1985 in Middletown, Ohio

......... 7 [6] Richard Glenn Lyons

............. +Barbara Anne Richer

......... *2nd Wife of [6] Richard Glenn Lyons:

............. +Rebecca Leight Snyder

......... *3rd Wife of [6] Richard Glenn Lyons:

............. +Margaret Louise Detcher

......... 7 Susan Kay Lyons

............. +Paul Lloyd Hannah

........... 8 Joshua Paul Hannah

....... 6 James Richard Sexton, Sr

........... +Betty Tellfer

......... 7 James Richard Sexton, Jr

......... 7 Polly Sexton

......... 7 Sally Sexton

....... 6 Jean Ann Sexton

........... +Harry Henderson Duncan b: October 19, 1922 in Kentucky d: January 15, 1988 in Middletown, Ohio

......... 7 Paula Jan Duncan

......... 7 William Harry Duncan

......... 7 Thomas Martin Duncan

............. +Arlene Faye Blevins

........... 8 Katlin Marie Duncan

......... 7 Jerome Sexton Duncan

..... 5 Harlan Sexton b: October 31, 1899

... 4 Gillie Ann [Gillian] Pieratt b: February 15, 1861

... 4 Francis Elizabeth Pieratt b: July 15, 1867

....... +George Lockhart

. 3 Mary Ann Pieratt b: 1822 in Kentucky

..... +Levi Kash m: February 24, 1842 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. 3 Louisa Pieratt b: Abt. 1823 in Kentucky

..... +Presley A Howard m: February 18, 1841 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. 3 Elizabeth Pieratt b: 1825 in Kentucky

..... +Cyrus Perry b: February 23, 1812 in Floyd Co., Kentucky m: April 26, 1850 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. 3 Lydia Pieratt b: 1828 in Kentucky d: December 1856 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. 3 John Pieratt b: 1830 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: November 22, 1861 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... +Margaret Elizabeth Carter b: September 4, 1832 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: May 15, 1911 in Morgan Co., Kentucky m: January 25, 1851 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 Mary Ann Pieratt b: September 5, 1854 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: January 5, 1915

....... +Willis F Lykins b: Abt. 1849 in Morgan Co., Kentucky m: December 2, 1871 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 John M Lykins b: Abt. 1872 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 Asa Lykins

..... 5 Della Lykins

... 4 Valentine M Pieratt b: November 22, 1859 d: June 10, 1915

....... +Lula Kendall b: Abt. 1860

. 3 [7] Delila Pieratt b: Abt. 1832 in Kentucky

..... +Lewis Murphy

. *2nd Husband of [7] Delila Pieratt:

..... +Charles W Culbertson m: March 25, 1847 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. 3 [8] Silas Pieratt b: August 30, 1834 in Kentucky d: August 25, 1918 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... +Emily J Carter b: February 9, 1838 d: September 26, 1866 m: October 29, 1856 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. *2nd Wife of [8] Silas Pieratt:

..... +Eliza Jane Oakley b: January 14, 1848 d: January 13, 1915 m: December 12, 1867

. 3 Gillian [Gillie Ann] Pieratt b: December 30, 1836 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: April 30, 1905 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... +Williamson Bruce Lykins b: May 27, 1836 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: July 27, 1911 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky m: October 3, 1856 in Caney Creek, Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 John Campbell B Lykins b: September 11, 1857 in Caney Creek, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: September 14, 1942 in Montgomery Co., Illinois

....... +Mary E McGuire b: 1860 d: 1921 m: February 7, 1878 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 Minnie L Lykins b: Abt. 1878 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 John M Lykins b: Abt. 1879 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 William Raney (Wren) Lykins b: November 8, 1859 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: May 8, 1931 in Winchester, Clark Co., Kentucky

....... +Alice Marenda Oldfields b: August 5, 1861 in Blackwater, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: December 4, 1905 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky m: December 4, 1879 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 John Henry Lykins b: Abt. 1880 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: Abt. 1880 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 [9] Myrtle Ellen Lykins b: January 16, 1882 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: 1975 in Charleston, Cole Co. Illinois

......... +Doyle Nickell

..... *2nd Husband of [9] Myrtle Ellen Lykins:

......... +James Murphy?

..... *3rd Husband of [9] Myrtle Ellen Lykins:

......... +Samuel Tilden Gibbs d: February 2, 1926 m: November 3, 1898 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 Thomas Celie Lykins b: August 5, 1885 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: July 17, 1973 in Spencer, Clay Co., Iowa

......... +Elizabeth Mae Nickell

..... 5 Lillian Mae Lykins b: December 18, 1884 in West Liberty, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: May 19, 1896 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... 5 Ara Pieratt (Bud) Lykins b: August 10, 1888 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: September 27, 1923 in Gibson City, Ford Co., Illinois

......... +Stella Davidson m: July 7, 1910

..... 5 [10] Delcie Leah (Chub) Lykins b: April 16, 1890 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: March 27, 1973 in Danville, Vermillion Co., Illinois

......... +James Camel Cottle m: in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky

..... *2nd Husband of [10] Delcie Leah (Chub) Lykins:

......... +Jack Horn

..... *3rd Husband of [10] Delcie Leah (Chub) Lykins:

......... +Edd Mansfield

..... *4th Husband of [10] Delcie Leah (Chub) Lykins:

......... +B V Lamp?

..... 5 Gillian Lykins b: June 23, 1894 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: July 26, 1981 in Normal, McLean Co., Illinois

......... +Daniel Henry McGath b: January 1, 1890 in Mahomet, Champaign Co., Illinois d: June 13, 1970 in Normal, McLean Co., Illinois m: December 4, 1912 in Bloomington, McLean Co., Illinois

..... 5 Rosa R Lykins b: May 22, 1898 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky

......... +Oliver Marion Forbs m: December 22, 1915 in Illinois

..... 5 Cressa Francis Lykins b: June 26, 1901 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: September 27, 1923 in Gibson City, Ford Co., Illinois

......... +Roy Stillwell m: July 22, 1922

..... 5 Hazel Dee Lykins b: August 30, 1905 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: October 30, 1905 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 Silas Jackson Lykins b: May 28, 1862 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: June 28, 1936 in Winchester, Clark Co., Kentucky

....... +Rose Ann Wells b: 1866 d: 1921 m: May 13, 1880 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 Joseph Dudley Lykins b: February 16, 1865 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: August 11, 1936 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky

....... +Mary E [Joseph Dudley Lykins] -------- b: 1887 d: 1939

... 4 Anna Lee Lykins b: July 21, 1866 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: 1941 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky

....... +James M Dennis b: 1855 d: 1940

... 4 [11] Thomas Eli Lykins b: August 15, 1868 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: October 3, 1957 in Springfield, Sangamon Co., Illinois

....... +Ethel Rose Elam m: February 18, 1890 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... *2nd Wife of [11] Thomas Eli Lykins:

....... +Nancy Elizabeth Cottle m: November 21, 1895

... 4 James Valentine Lykins b: January 26, 1870 in Ezel, Morgan Co., Kentucky d: 1961 in Ogden, Weber Co., Utah

....... +Mary Blanche Jones m: 1915 in Idaho

... 4 Delilah Lykins b: April 5, 1873 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: October 23, 1875 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 Prudence Ethel Lykins b: May 10, 1875 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: September 20, 1949 in Urbana, Champaign Co., Illinois

....... +Alfonzo McGuire

... 4 Barbara Ellen Lykins b: July 13, 1877 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: 1949 in Spencer, Clay Co., Iowa

....... +John Cottle

... 4 Mary Lou Lykins b: November 6, 1879 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: November 18, 1879 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

... 4 Susie May Lykins b: May 15, 1883 in Morgan Co., Kentucky d: November 14, 1890 in Morgan Co., Kentucky

. 3 James E Pieratt b: 1840 in Kentucky

..... +Zelphia J Dennis m: November 5, 1857 in Morgan Co., Illinois

. 3 Anna Pieratt b: 1842 in Kansas d: July 22, 1853 in Grassy Creek, Morgan Co., Kentucky

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From: ppp165b@ |To: John Grace Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:56:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Tulga genealogy

Anna Catherine Tulga ( 1884 died January 20, 1944) married

(Ironton, Ohio ) Thomas Nelson Fullerton (April 12, 1914 died

November 7, 1961)

Children:

William Oliver Fullerton (April 14, 1915) Died June 21, 1959

Married (December 27, 1938 in Vanceburg, Kentucky) Mariah

Elizabeth Harper (October 4, 1912 Died January 22, 1993)

Children of William:

Carol Jane Fullerton Watson (October 14, 1939) Married

(Auguest 30, 1958) Larry Melvin Watson (January 25, 1936.

Children:

Larry William Watson (May 30, 1960) Married Bridget

Mary Ryan

Children: Lawrence Edward Watson, Michael Timothy

Watson, Christopher Luke Watson.

Edwin Keith Watson (November 30, 1966. Married Donna

McHugh. Divorced. Children: Elizabeth Ashley Watson and

William Edwin Watson.

Current Partner: Marlene Barrett - two children died at

birth.

Frank Fullerton married Crystalee

Children Gary, Ann, Judy

Anna Catherine Fullerton (1916-1930)

Thomas Nelson Fullerton (1920-1991) Married Mary Frances

Children: Michael married (two girls)

Mary K. Fullerton married Charles Corbett Chapman

Children: Corbett and William

Marguerite Fullerton

John Henry Fullerton Married Carol

Children Jack, Carol Anna Jeffrey

Thomas Nelson Fullerton: Father Francis Marion Fullerton and

Mother Elizabeth Keyser.

JohnWhat else can I help you with. I do have more if I keep searching. I have neglected my genealogy for months. Thanks.

Carol Fullerton Watson

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Date sent: >Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:19:18 -0700 (PDT)

From: John Grace Are you the only child of William Oliver Fullerton?

No. I have two sisters: 1. Me, I am the oldest. 2.Elizabeth Lee

Fullerton - Hale l- Coleman-?? - Broom (the ?? is for a husband

that I do not know the name and there may be or have been other

husbands). Children: John Russell Hale, Lydia Ann Hale, James

Hale, Joseph Hale and David Coleman. 3. Marianna Ruth

Fullerton Trauty. Husband - Joseph. She has four daughters.

Kathleen, Johanna, Paula, Bonnie.

Are Larry, Edwin are my sons.

Frank Is the son of Anna Catherine Tulga and Thomas Nelson Fullerton.

William Oliver, Frank, Thomas, Mary K, Margerite and Anna were all children of Tulga and Fullerton union.

Frank had three children: Gary, Ann, and Judy.

Thomas had one son: Michael.

Mary K had two sons: Corb and Bill.

Margerite never married.

John had three children: John(called Jackie), Anna, and Jeff.

>What were the names of your mother's parents? (I follow all Kentucky threads)

My Mother is from Jackson County Ohio. They were Edith Marie Ray and Ortha Lee Harper. -----------------------------------------------------

Anna Catherine Tulga ( 1884 died January 20, 1944) > married > (Ironton, Ohio ) Thomas Nelson Fullerton (April 12,> 1914 died > November 7, 1961)

> Children:

> William Oliver Fullerton (April 14, 1915) Died June

> 21, 1959

> Married (December 27, 1938 in Vanceburg, Kentucky)

> Mariah

> Elizabeth Harper (October 4, 1912 Died January 22,

> 1993)

> Children of William:

> Carol Jane Fullerton Watson (October 14, 1939)

> Married

> (Auguest 30, 1958) Larry Melvin Watson (January 25,

> 1936.

> Children:

> Larry William Watson (May 30, 1960) Married Bridget

> Mary Ryan

> Children: Lawrence Edward Watson, Michael

> Timothy

> Watson, Christopher Luke Watson.

>

> Edwin Keith Watson (November 30, 1966.

> Married Donna

> McHugh. Divorced. Children: Elizabeth Ashley

> Watson and

> William Edwin Watson.

> Current Partner: Marlene Barrett - two

> children died at birth.

>

> Frank Fullerton married Crystalee

> Children Gary, Ann, Judy

>

> Anna Catherine Fullerton (1916-1930)

>

> Thomas Nelson Fullerton (1920-1991) Married

> Mary Frances

> Children: Michael married (two girls)

>

> Mary K. Fullerton married Charles Corbett

> Chapman

> Children: Corbett and William

>

> Marguerite Fullerton

>

> John Henry Fullerton Married Carol

> Children Jack, Carol Anna Jeffrey

> Thomas Nelson Fullerton: Father Francis Marion

> Fullerton and

> Mother Elizabeth Keyser.

> John

> What else can I help you with. I do have more if I

> keep searching.

> I have neglected my genealogy for months. Thanks.

> Carol Fullerton Watson

From: ppp165b@ |To: jwgrace99@ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:15:00 -0400 Subject: Tulga

I am sorry I cannot remember if I answered you.My grandmother was Anna Catherina Tulga Fullerton. All I know about her is that she had one brother and he was married.

I would be glad to exchange but my part is very little. I can tell you about her life with my grandfather and about her children and grandchild and great grandchildren.

If you can help me with information about her family I would appreciate this so very much. If you do not feel that you can share if you could direct me in the correct direction so that I will at least have some place to start looking this would be appreciated .tia Carol Fullerton Watson

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From: PKKratz@ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:48:19 EDT Subject: Campbell and Zornes To: jwgrace99@

John We have been in contact before and I just ran across a note from you from last winter in which you expressed interest in the Zornes Family history book. You had heard of it from Eddie Shearer. I just checked my records and see that you have not bought one of the books and now I am wondering if I responded properly to your request. I do still have books available. Info is as follows. If I can help in any way let me know.

The first publication of: ZORNES FAMILY HISTORY BEING THEDESCENDANTS OF BROTHERS ANDREW AND MARTIN

BY SHIRLEY CAMPBELL RAMOS, JANE ZORNS-BURROWS PATRICIA CAMPBELL KRATZ

Thisbook describes the lives of Andrew and Martin Zornes as well as their manydescendants as they immigrated to PA, OH, WV and KY.. Included are allied lines of BORDEN, BURRELL, CAMPBELL, DECKER,DUMMITT, DUNCAN, GILBERT, JAMES, LLEWELLYN, MCCLEESE, MOORE, OLDACRE/OLDAKER,and SMITH. The book is about 400 pages,every name indexed and is now available.

COST (includes shipping costs) $52.00

ORDER FROM

Pat Kratz

2801 E.P. True Pkwy #101

West Des Moines, IA 50265

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From: joaniekk@ | Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:38:52 -0500 (CDT) To: jwgrace99@

John, Sorry I should have included some dates in the first email..James Wesley McCleese b. 1852 d. 1931 m. Dicey Tackett b. 1857 d, 1893. Wyett McCleese b. 1878 d. 1951 m. America Blankenship b. 1882 d. 1941 Virgie McCleese b. 1902 d. 1994. There are no dates for Thomas McCleese or Cynthia. Hope this helps a little more. I am still waiting for the information to be mailed to me about the McCleeses. I do hope it gets here soon. This lady was suppose to send me a lot of info about the McCleeses and the Zornes. Your Cuz. Joan

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From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:40:48 EDT Subject: Re: Kinnamons in PLatte County To: jwgrace99@

John, I looked at the Kinnamon name and the only female I came up with was an Alice. I don't know if they married in another county? I think you have a good point about the Mrs.. Kinnamon's headstone. It was odd though that they died on the same day. It makes me think that if they died on the same day there must be a story behind it. Judy

From: Rlvjkv@ |Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:13:10 EDT Subject: Re: Porter - Kinnamon genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John, thanks for writing. James Porter son of James Franklin died this first week of Sept. 2001. I am sorry I don't have the exact date. Waldron MO is in the same general area as Farley. If there is anything else you would like me to take a look at I will be glad to help.Judy

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From: VRS1931@ |Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:32:50 EDT Subject: Re: [KYBATH] 1820-1840 Marriage Bonds To: jwgrace99@, regill@

Hi John And Donna Did I guess right that Donna is Cousin Donna Gill? Must have missed your previous notes on the net. I am descended from Mary Ross and Jeremiah Hunt. What I have on the Ross family is limited. John is indeed a Rev. War vet, I have his pension application. His father was William Ross of Prince William Co. VA. William apparently received considerable land due to his service in the Indian wars and willed it to Or some of it to John. I am glad to get some indication of John's wife as this has eluded me. The next time I gewt to Bath Co. KY, I will look up the Piatt/Pyatt and see if I can get a link. Also. Thanks for the list of John's children, all I knew was Mary. Will be glad to share. Vearl Stewart

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From: "Vanlandingham" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: [KYBATH] 1820-1840 Marriage Bonds Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:13:16 -0500

By the way, Stewart was married about 5 or 6 times and we have quite a bit of documentation on that also. It seems he may have had as many as 30 children. Betty

Jerry Vanlandingham b. Feb. 25th 1870 died July 15, 1928 was the son of Stewart Vanlandingham b. 1822 and Sarah Burke both born in Fleming County. Wife is deceased when this death certificate was filled out by R. O. Vanlandingham of Salt Lick, Ky. This information is from a certified Copy of Jerry's death certificate. Wife is Sarah Elizabeth Vanlandingham b. Nov. 28, 1872. She was born in Bath County Kentucky. father is Allen Spence, mother is Mary Isabell Silcox. Father's birthplace is Bath County Kentucky........mother's is reported only as Kentucky. According to the grandchildren of Jeremiah Vanlandingham, R. O. Vanlandingham is an uncle. I do not remember if he was a great uncle or not. I sent all the information to Leon when I was gathering it. If it is of any importance, I can check my notes on it. Jeremiah and Sarah had several children, one who is my husband's father. If you need this information, let me know. I have a certified copy of both Jerry and Sarah. They are buried at Hedricks Cemetery with one headstone. If you are interested in this line let me know. I also know and am in contact with some of the other children of brothers of Jerry, if you are interested. They have shared many pictures and much information with me. Betty

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From: "Leonard James" |To: Subject: Rueben Ross Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:18:52 -0500

John,I got your e-mail address from the messages you left in Carter Co message boards. I noticed CW Butler gave you a lot of misinformation. I have copied some info that the gggrandaughter of Mary Elizabeth (Ross) James typed up and sent me. You'll notice that under Mary, it states that her father was Richard. And under Rueben, it states that his father is Edward . This information came from John Christian, that did some genealogy work back in the 1980's, and sent a copy of his findings to the Neodesha Genealogical Society,(which no longer exists), but is now in the genealogy section at the library. I looked at my copy that I originally got from the library, and it does have the two different names. But it also says that Rueben and Mary were siblings. I don't know if the Edward was an error on his part or what. If you have heard from a woman named Jan, you probably already have all the information below. If you have'nt, e-mail me back and I will ask her if it is ok to give you her e-mail address. A fellow genealogist, Leonard James p.s My ggggrandfather is William Restore James, uncle to her gggrandfather William R. James. 8. REBECCA

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From: MALUTZ@ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:21:53 EDT Subject: Re: Wison Co., Ross surname To: jwgrace99@

Hi John, No, sorry, I don't have any information on your Wilson County Ross family. As much as I ahve looked at all of these Rosses, it appears to me that there are more than one or two family lines that went to KS. But I don't know how they connected back in KY. My line in Wilson County is James Ross Sr. and Priscilla "Lilla" Miller, and there descendants went to ID in the late 1800s. Thank you for writing, and good luck in your search. Marge

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From: "Leonard James" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Reuben. Pictures attached Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:05:22 -0500

John,That's the same Jan I was referring to. She probably has more details on the Ross' than I do. I don't have any marriage bond copies, but Jan might, I'm not sure.

About Claudia Andrews, I don't know her. I have pictures of Reuben & Rebecca's grave marker, at least the part you can read. I will attach them to this e-mail. Reuben donated one small corner of his farm/property just for the Ross Cemetery. Looking through the papers Jan typed up, and comparing to the Ross Cem. records, I find a Sarah J. Ross, (daughter of Reuben), b. 6 June 1866 d. 14 March 1881,buried in lot #85.

Other Ross' buried in lot # 85 are:

Reuben-b.9/11/1822 d.9/29/1868

Rebecca(James)-b.9/18/1831 d.4/21/1882

George W.-b.4/07/1851 d.6/13/1880

Abraham-b.9/11/1859 d.12/01/1887

George M.-b.6/19/1881 d.10/05/1882

Kattie-no dates

Abraham and George W. are Reubens sons.

Other Ross' buried there: lot #105

Tommy-b.? d.1895 (son of Reuben ?)

Laura(Tannahill)-b.12/05/1866 d.6/23/1892

Lot#162:Enos-b.3/08/1851,(Note-"born Sidney,IA") d.1/07/1932

Hope this helps some.Leonard

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Subject: Margaret Willis

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:39:54 EDT

From: DeanHickmn@

To: jdavenport@

Cc: Jlktrees@, agenealogynut@

Attachment: Joseph Willis.rtf

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Janice,

I have other correspondents who are interested in the Willises and/or Leakes.

Phyllis Swigert (agenalogynut@) is descended from Joseph Willis.

Another named probably Jerilyn Tree (Jlktrees@), a new correspondent,

is interested in the Leakes.

I have the following material in my annotated Census Extracts file.

From 1850 Jackson Township, Jackson County, Ohio:

Joseph Willis 35 #241/247 born Pa,

Sarah 30 442 Willis, Sarah 1886 Jul 03 69y2m21d Jackson Tp McCune Cem. <

nee Sarah Moore>

Margaret 11 "Leak, Elisha L Willis, Margaret 8 Mar 1855" , also:

Leek, Margaret + Estler, James W. Sep 11, 1864 from



Ephraim Boring m Margaret Leek 27 Feb 1870, Jackson Co. OH

(FamilySearch)

Cyrus 9 21 Oct 1840-Mar 1907 m 16 Apr 1866 Sarah J. Waller 30 Apr

1846-6 Nov 1877 McCune Cem.

Isaac 7

Mary 6

John 4 m Margaret Newel Willis, John 1877 Jun 27 M 33y3m19d Jackson Tp

31y3m21d McCune Cem.

Mordecai 2 m Sarah Jane Foutty 1848-1925

Wm 1 1848-1927 m Charity Malissa Hickman.

NOTE: Sarah J. Waller, wife of Cyrus Willis was dau of Daniel Waller.

McCune Cemetery: Daniel Wallar died 18 Sep 1870 aged 61y 6m 16d Susan

Wallar died 2 Nov 1883 aged 69y 3m 18d

Daniel Waller m Susan Girty 29 Dec 1836 Guernsey Co. OH LDS FamilySearch

website

Subj: Susan Girty Waller

Date: 02/17/2001 10:17:03 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Jsellars3

To: DeanHickmn

Hi Dean,

I saw your posting regarding the Girtys. I did a little digging and may be

able to give you some clues as to Susan's ancestry. I found in the Draper

Manuscripts that George Girty Jr., son of George Girty (Simon's brother),

lived in Zanesville, Muskingum Co., Ohio. A George Girty married Catherine

Smeltzer April 15, 1815 in Muskingum Co., OH. In the 1820 OH census for

Muskingim there is listed seperately a Catherine and George Girty. 1830 is

the same and in 1840 a George Girty is listed in Muskingum (Zanesville) and

in Guernsey County.

There was also a George W. Girty who married Caroline E. Printz on December

16, 1841 in Muskingum Co., OH. The Draper papers also mention that George

Girty Jr. had a sister that married Chief White Eyes and she was described as

being of "unmarked beauty."

It's highly probable that your Susan Girty Waller is descended from George

Girty Sr. through George Girty Jr. I think a check of the County records in

Muskingum and Guernsey should provide some more clues. These two counties are

nearby. There was also some George Girty's in 1850 of 60 listed in Hocking

County, OH which is near Muskingum Co. I hope this helps.

Jim Sellars

Subj: Girty Date: 02/17/2001 10:26:15 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Jsellars3 To: DeanHickmn

One more piece of info I saw. is that a George Girty married Sarah Waller

November 11, 1831 in Guernsey Co., OH.

Jim

Willis, Joseph 1897 May 19 W 82y11m21d Limerick

Source:

Among those whose lives were contemporary with this township was Daniel

Waller, who was a leading man in the township most of his long life,

although not one of the pioneer settlers, as he was born only a year before

the township was organized. But his long life within the township has

identified him with its history. He was prominent from an intellectual

standpoint, being frequently chosen to participate in the councils of that

honorable body, the township trustees, and received other marks of local

distinction. He was also a leader in sports, being generally the first man

on the ground at a horse race or dog fight. He was an especial admirer of

fast horses and would never miss an opportunity of seeing a race. He lived

and died on the place now owned by his son, George M. Waller.

WILLIS, Ohio- 1800s

Posted by: Alyce Date: February 20, 1998 at 10:41:16

Searching for information on ancestors and siblings of Joseph WILLIS b. 1759

in NJ, m. Grace HORNER abt. 1784, d. Green Co. PA. and son Joseph WILLIS, b.

abt. 1784 NJ, m. Deborah KELLEY? Their son was Joseph Willis b. abt 1815 m.

Sarah MOORE May 24, 1838 in Jefferson Co. OH, d Jackson Co 1892.

Re: WILLIS, Ohio- 1800s

Posted by: Ann Hinton Date: May 22, 1998 at 19:29:32

In Reply to: WILLIS, Ohio- 1800s by Alyce

You are asking info on my gggggf Joseph who married Grace will be referred to

as #2 because his father was Joseph Willis who was a major in N.J.malitia

during the Revolution #2 did indead marry Grace Horner in 1784 her dates are

1760-1846 he was a Revolutionary soldier moved to Green Co. Pa. from

Elizabethtown N.J. their son Joseph #3 was born in N.J moved to Pa. with his

parents in 1822 later moved with his son Joseph #4 to Ohio his wife #3 's was

Deborah Fouty #4 was born 1815 in Pa. married Sarah Moore in 1839 moved to

Limerick Ohio after his marriage had 14 children one being my ggf Mordecai

Jan.1848 -1923 married Jane Fouty in 1871 her dates are Oct.1851 -1932 they

had 7 children one being Edmund Horatio Willis my great grandfather born

1878-1931 married Lulu Ada Springer in 1902 her dates 1877-1953 they had 5

children my grandfather Wendell Charles Willis I have info on siblings back

to Joseph and Sarah other notes before that random. Contact me. I am excited

From 1860 Jackson Twp. Jackson County, Ohio

Saml Fouty 50 #178, All I have on Martha is that she was born in 1868 and> died in 1928. I'm in California, but have family in> Jackson, so I do go back there a couple of times a> year. Have not tried to research Martha, but will at> the first opportunity.

>

> Martha and Henry had the following children:

>> Della May Tennant, b. March 23, 1882

>> Edith Emma Tennant b. April 17, 1901,d. 1970 and

> married Eldon Kight

>> Mary Elizabeth Tennant b. Jan. 1, 1890

>> Morris W. Tennant b. Feb. 22, 1886 (date?)

>> Ora Ellen Tennant b. Feb. 15, 1892

>> Elmer Tennant b. Feb. 15, 1880

>> Artinacy "Artie" Tennant b. July 8, 1886 and married> Clifton Scott Ross

>

> Dempsey French Ross, "Blaze", b. Apr. 24, 1891 in> Carter Co., Ky., d. Oct. 23, 1962 in Jackson, Ohio,> buried at Leo, Ohio. Married first, Charlotte Grizzell> "Lottie" , b. Sept. 22, 1891, d. Sep. 22, 1918.> Dempsey and Charlotte had 2 children: Wayne and> Isabelle. Charlotte died soon after Isabelle's birth,> and Dempsey then married Talma Virginia Fitzpatrick,> Dempsey & Talma had children Frank, Betty (my mother)> and Bobby. Isabelle now lives in Pickerington, ohio,> Betty in Columbus, and Frank in Jackson, Ohio.

>

> I have a photo of Artie Tennant's home, but do not> know how many generations occupied it. It still> stands, and has changed little in the last 65 years.

>

> I have a less than comprehensive Tennant chart, so anything you would share with me, especially on the Jackson County Tennants and/or Woods, would be much appreciated. I attended Jackson High School for a year

> and a half. What other Jackson Co. lines are you> researching?> John

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From: "Barb Rodgers" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: William Vanlandingham and Martha Denton Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:28:55 -0700

Sorry, I don't have anything on them except they were both born in TN.Barb

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Posted by: Michael Moore Date: October 27, 2001 at 18:49:13 In Reply to: Re: Perrys in Scioto & Lawrence Co., Ohio by John of 7082

Rachel Perry (Alfred's twin sister and daughter to Lindsay and Elizabeth) m. Henry Tulga. They had a daughter Bertha (10 May 1881-15 Oct 1967) I knew her as "Aunt Bird".

Bertha m. James Yates, who was b. 16 Jan 1876 in Ashland, KY, of George and Elizabeth Yates. James was a barber and d. 4 May 1923 in Ironton.

James and Bertha had two kids: (1)Charlotte ()4 May 1906-Sept. 1982) who m. George Barron. (I found 2 George B's from OH in the SSDI -- Akron and Cleveland. Don't know, tho) (2) Walter Yates (5 possibles out of 102 in Ohio).He m. someone named Goldie.

I am trying to track down my grandmother's family who lived briefly in Jackson Co. (Coalton). My Great-grandfather was James Yates (not the one who m. Bertha!), his wife Anna and their children: Alan, Maude, Harry, Grover, Ross, Kathryn, Ruth, and Dorothy. Not all were b. in Jackson Co., but I know Maude, Harry and Grover were. James and Anna were born in 1857; and Maude (my grandmother was b. 16 Jan 1881. Could you give an assist on this one?Thanks!Mike

Posted by: Michael Moore Date: October 27, 2001 at 17:58:21 In Reply to: Re: Perrys in Scioto & Lawrence Co., Ohio by John of 7082

Yes, it does differ. I have it this way: Lindsay was m. to America West. and was a brother to Alfred. Lindsay's other siblings were: Hannah, Rachel (Alfred's twin sister), Margaret (Meg), and possibly Martha (but I haven't nailed her down). The parents of all these kids were Lindsay Perry and Elizabeth Slimp, but Elizabeth left him in 1855 or so and married John Mole. Lindsay turned right around and married Elizabeth's cousin, Celia (or Cecelia) Slimp and had several kids by her (including my great-grandmother. Celia also got the job of raising several of Elizabeth's kids in addition to raising her own.Mike

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From: "Norma Ledford" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: Porter genealogy

Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:14:42 -0500

John,

William Porter and Ann Hammond are the parents of Enoch Porter. I have

a

copy of William's will in which he lists his children: James, William,

Mary

Reynolds, Susannah Yates, John Porter, Enoch Porter, Lucinda Porter,

and

Thomas H. Porter. Matilda Beckett, deceased.

I have several group sheets from different people about the ancestors

of

William Porter and some other info.

1. Book, "Cabell county and their families"

Two Porter brothers, John and William appeared in Cabell county VA

before

1810 when John took a land grant of 50 acres on Mud River opposite the

mouth

of Trace Creek. Both purchased pieces of land in the Mud River area

over

the next few years. About 1827 John purchased land in Salt Rock on

Madison

Creek Road. He moved his family on this new land. John's three older

sons,

John Jr, William, and David continued to live on the lands at Mud

River. In

the 1830's brother William moved his family of ten children to Platte

County, MO. He sold some of his land on Mud River to nephew William.

John

Jr. b 1802 married Jane Burns. He went west about the same time as his

uncle. He died in Wolcott, IN leaving his widow with nine children.

She

married #2 Thomas Coons and moved to Iowa. John Sr. also had a son

Michael

who moved to Michigan. We have no information on him. The two sons

that

went west are not named in their fathers will.

Their is additional information on the sons that remained in WV.

Another article in the book, John Sr's brother William was later

censused in

Platte Co, MO. 1850 his birth state listed was PA.

Another source: John's death 22 Apr 1859. John's parents are listed

as

William and Susan Porter.

Another source:

1. William Porter b abt 1700 Ireland

ch: William Porter b abt 1740 Ireland

ch: 1. John Porter b 20 Mar 1775 VA d 22 Apr 1859 Salt Rock, Va md Sarah Stephens John's will names Sarah & 8 children

2. William Porter b abt 1780 d bef March 1852 Platte Co, MO

Source Richard Reed:

William Porter md Susan ?

ch 1 John md Sarah Jackson had 9-10 children and are buried Cabell County,West VA. 2 William md Ann Hammond

There seems to be a lot of information on the families of John and

Sarah.

I believe I saw in some notes that Missouri was born in Savannah, MO. Do you remember where you got that information or if you have something different? I would love to have any updated lineage you might have on the

Porter's. Also the lineage on Missouri Ann.

I was able to see Nancy Z. and talk to her prior to her trip to Germany.Norma

Norma Ledford

6601 NW Waukomis Dr

Kansas City, MO 64151

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To: jwgrace99@ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:47:48 -0600 Subject: Re: William Abner Fox From: "Patty S Purvis" |

John,You are right William and Rachael did not have children together. I willtry to gather you more information on her. There is a book calledPaxton's Annals written by John Paxton which has a wealth of informationon the history and people of Platte County, a addition to this book wasjust published recently.I will research Racheal's family in these two books. Patty Trail Purvis

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Subject: Paul Terry Jr descendants To: frank2n2@ CC: concho@, tshu@, bkdozer@, jwgrace99@ From: Dean.Hickman@das.state.oh.us

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:33:22 -0400 ---------------------- Forwarded by Dean Hickman/HRD/DAS/OHIO on 08/27/2001

Winnie Rathbun on 08/26/2001 09:22:46 PM To: dean.hickman@das.state.oh.us, lwriii@c:Subject: Paul Terry Jr descendants

Hello to both of you (does this get to both???)This file is in rtf (WordPad). Does either of you have World FamilyTreemaker? That's where I'm in the process of updating everything, and itwould be simpler to forward to you as an FWT file. Tell me which is betterfor you, OK?Hope I'm finally getting things straightened out!Again, thanks for all the help.Winnie(See attached file: PaulTerry.rtf)

DeanHickmn@

Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:13:56 EST

Subject: Bobby Ross obit

To: scioto@

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Bobby K. Ross, 70, of Markham Road, Waverly, Ohio, died at 4:20 a.m. Sunday, Aug. 8, 1999 at Adena Regional Medical Center, Chillicothe.

Mr. Ross was a retired secretary/treasurer of Meatcutters Union #346, Columbus. He was a member of the Church of Christ, David Road; the VFW and American Legion, both of Labelle, Fla.; and a veteran of the U.S. Army, Korean Conflict.

He was born June 30, 1929 in Jackson, Ohio, the son of the late Dempsey Ross and Talma (Fitzpatrick) Ross.

He is survived by his wife, Phyllis Ann (Black) Ross, whom he married Sept. 24, 1955; one son, Mark Ross and his wife Tamara of Waverly; four grandchildren and one great-grandson; one brother, Frank Ross and his wife, Rosemary of Jackson; and two sisters, Isabelle Henson and her husband, John of Pickerington, and Betty Tulga and her husband, Paul of Columbus.

He was preceded in death by one son, Michael Ross, and one brother, Wayne Ross.

Funeral services were set for Wednesday, Aug. 11 at 10 a.m. at Waverly Church of Christ with Rev. Tim Peck officiating, and interment in Kingwood Memorial Park, Worthington. Calling hours were set for Tuesday at the church, 4-8 p.m. and also from 9 a.m. until the time of the service on Wednesday.

Arrangements are by Boyer Funeral Home, 125 W. Second St., Waverly.

Source: Jackson Times-Journal, Tuesday, August 10, 1999

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To: jwgrace99@ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:12:08 -0600 Subject: William Abner Fox From: "Patty S Purvis" |

What would like to know about William and Rachael. He was my husbandsGGgrandfather. He did marry her in Platte Co., Missouri and he died inPlatte Co., Missouri. She was his second wife.Patty Trail PurvisShillo@

From: "hunts" |To: "John Grace" Subject: hunts Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:49:27 -0500

i have had email conversations with people and have had pages upon pages of info sent to me but you are the only one that has had any info on my g granddad benjamin franklin hunt married barbara ellen hardin i have attached my line its a roughdraft havent verified alot of info yet hope you can use itbobby hunt John_Hunt_Mary_Overall.doc

Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:30:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Bobby Hunt" Subject: Re: Hunt-Denton-Vanlandingham charts To: "John Grace"

most of my info came from my dads half brothers wifeshe had alot of stuff wrong if you find somethingplease let me know both attachments came across finethank you i will print them and look over them howpositive are you on your info prior to john hunt andmary overall there are several different ones outthere what hunt pictures do you have can i get copiesi will gladly pay you for the copies i have foundseveral graves back to frank hunt son of denton son ofreuben son of john and mary overall thanks againbobby huntaugusta ky

From: "hunts" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: hunt Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:28:10 -0500

i have marys a ross father as john ross b 9-18-1754 d after 1833 mother assusan piat b 1786 va d 1865 bath co ky john served in the rev war accordingto my records mary a ross had 2 sisters elanor and margaret 1 brother jacoball my birth and death dates match yours rev jeremiah m hunt and mary aross had 9 children i have an attachment someone sent me on the denton lineim sending it to you What Hunt Pictures Do You Have i will gladly pay for acopy i dont know how much this helps i am also at a roadblock on my grandadsmothers side so i know how you feel if you need me to do any research i liveonly 30 miles from fleming co so dont hesitate to ask i go over to flemingand bath co about 2 times a month to look for graves and do my own researchbut it looks like im not going over this month at all at least until afterchristmas there is a geneologist in fleming co courthouse im going to seeher next time i go over so if i can help just let me knowbobby huntaugusta ky

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: "John Grace" |Subject: Hunt - Denton - Vanlandingham genealogy (.doc file) To: hunts@bracken.

Bobby, thank you so much for the info you sent. Youhave given me a lot that I did not know before.I have read through your descendency once, and thereseem to be a couple of minor differences between yourdescent and what I had, but I have not had the time tostudy it closely enough to give you the particulars.Until I'm able to give you a proper reply, I thoughtI'd send you some charts for the Hunt, Denton andVanlandingham lines that I have been working with. TheHunts and Dentons are generally very consistent withwhat you have. I really like the biographicalinformation that you have included.

The .doc file requires MS Word, the .txt file doesnot, but may be harder to read. Let me know if neitherone comes across properly.Talk to you later,John

From: "hunts" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: hunt Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:28:10 -0500

i have marys a ross father as john ross b 9-18-1754 d after 1833 mother as susan piat b 1786 va d 1865 bath co ky john served in the rev war according to my records mary a ross had 2 sisters elanor and margaret 1 brother jacob all my birth and death dates match yours rev jeremiah m hunt and mary a ross had 9 children i have an attachment someone sent me on the denton line im sending it to you What Hunt Pictures Do You Have i will gladly pay for a copy i dont know how much this helps i am also at a roadblock on my grandads mothers side so i know how you feel if you need me to do any research i live only 30 miles from fleming co so dont hesitate to ask i go over to fleming and bath co about 2 times a month to look for graves and do my own research but it looks like im not going over this month at all at least until after christmas there is a geneologist in fleming co courthouse im going to see her next time i go over so if i can help just let me know bobby hunt augusta ky

From:"bobby hunt" | To:"John Grace" Subject:Re: carter co site Date:Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:00:05 -0400

heres the pics i am not the owner of these i got them from a great grandaughter of robert and ina's my 2nd cousin lisa ware ive made some advancement in my hunt lines but mostly ive been working on the hardin and burchett sides of my tree and some on my wifes tree do you have any church records for nelson "nt" burchett he was a methodist minister and supposedly helped build the war monument in plummer burchett cem i have found out alot from census records new children and so on for some reason i dont have you in my files what is your lineage again old age setting in i reckon if theres anything i may be able to help with just let me know you were one of the first people to help me when i started so for that i am indebted i have almost 11000 names in my filke now and when you sent me info i had about 2000 or so not too bad for a year and a half my "self tought" typing skills have come along way to say the least bobby

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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Lyle Brown" |Subject: Re: correction to Brown - Bunyan link To: "John Grace"

Always happy to hear from a new cousin. I find it interesting to note that the vast majority of Browns who contact me are descended from Low, Jr. Rarely do I hear from anyone descended from the other siblings. I have seen the Bunyan connection, but like you, I have never seen any documentation. I'm sure you notedthat even Mary Lowe is not proven. Many years ago I speculated that based on the common naming conventionsof the Scottish families, it would seem reasonablethat William Brown's wife could be named Mary Low(e).I have even found a marriage record of a William Brownand Mary Lowe in Virginia at about the right timeperiod. However, there is nothing to prove thisconnection. Nonetheless, I continue to see charts withthis listed as fact. Well, I guess that's what happenswhen you accept information without checking it outyourself. And... I'm just as guilty as the next guy!That's why I usually include a caveat. There are boundto be errors in any project of this magnatude.Anyway, I'd be happy to receive anything you wouldcare to share about the descendants of Jeremiah Ross.I'll add you to my Brown mailing list so you can keepinformed of any new developments.Incidentally, in case you missed it, I just yesterdayposted a document on my website with Low Sr.'s actualsignature. It's under the Brown section of 'Bios &Stories'. Thanks for contacting me. I look foreward to hearingfrom you again.Lyle



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From: DALTONFAB@ | Block Address |Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:31:38 EST Subject: Re: my browns,,,, To: jwgrace99@

Grace,Low had a son named Low, JR. He had a son named Samula Harris, He had a son named James A, He had a son named Roy, Roy had a son named Cecil, Cecil had a daughter named Fay. That is me, so I think we are related. take care and have a Happy New Year! Fab

Hi, thanks for your response to my posting. I have received many suggestions and leads from the list, but your's was of particular interest to me. Besides our Brown connection, we may also be linked through James A. Brown's wife, Alice Prince. Do you know anything about her? I have her as the daughter of Arthur Prince (b: ABT 1846 in Carter Co., Kentucky & Cynthia A. Sparks b: ABT 1849 in Carter Co., Kentucky). I am linked (though not real closely) to both Arthur's Prince line, as well as to several marriages into Cynthia's Sparks clan. The Prince angle is one that I have been investigating regularly for several months. I have a John Prince in 1775 Virginia. Thomas had a son named Arthur who married a Margaret Ross. I believe Margaret is related to my 2nd great grandfather, John Nelson Ross, but I only have strong circumstantial evidence to go on. Any help you can give me on this Prince family would be much appreciated. Alice Prince (who married James A. Brown) was grand daughter of Arthur Prince's brother, Thomas Prince (b: 29 December 1810 in Wilkes County, North Carolina, d: 25 February 1877 in Martha, Lawrence Co, Kentucky).BTW, I had your 2nd great grandfather as Samuel Harrison Brown (rather than Samuel Harris Brown). Is Harris definitely correct? Thanks again. Have a happy 2002,John

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From: "COZA ALLEY" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: my browns,,,, Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:34:05 -0500

Hi John I am your Brown cousin from Columbus, Ohio (originally from Olive Hill, Ky.). You are descended from Low Brown, Jr's daughter: Cynthia, and I am descended from his son: Samuel Harrison Brown. I think I can answer a couple of questions for you. First of all, Samuel Harrison Brown's 2nd wife was named Vine Cox (not Vine "Cline"). I was at their grave last summer, and confirmed her last name. Phoebe Roe was Samuel Harrison Brown's first wife. You said you have some Roe history. Have you ever looked that name up on the internet at the site?If you have not, you can go to and type in Phoebe Roe. Then go to "worldconnect", and when it gives you a lists of websites which include her name, there is a real good one done by jdonahew. (It lists her father's name as John Littleton Roe, and goes all the way back to Joshua Roe who came over from England.) Also, concerning the parents of Mary Tabor: there is a lot of info at . Mary Tabor's parents were Stephen Tabor and Ann Bekelhymer. Again, if you go to and follow the same procedure, you will see many websites with info. A couple of them have info on the Tabors going back to the 1600's. I hope that is helpful to you! Good luck with your venture! Cozi Hartley_Alley

From: "COZA ALLEY" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: my browns,,,, Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 21:59:04 -0500

Hi John, So, you went to Miflin High School? Wow! I graduated from South High School in 1981.Yes, I was one of those hillbillies in the south end of Columbus! You know what they say: if you took all the hillbillies out of the south end, it would be empty! (That's still true, John.) We lived in the country outside Olive Hill until we moved up here in the mid 1960's.My Dad didn't want to be a tobacco farmer anymore, so he came to the land of opportunity: Columbus! However, I know what you mean about feeling like you belong in Kentucky. I absolutely love it! I was just down there last week, and it is such a refreshing change from the city! I still have most of my relatives in the Olive Hill (eastern Ky.) area, so I am down there several times a year. I would love to live there someday, but there just isn't any work down there. But, I still try to go several times per year and go to family reunions, cemeteries, etc. Concerning the correct name of Low Brown, Jr's son: it is "Samuel Harrison Brown." He was my g-g grandfather. As a matter of fact, he was called by his middle name: Harrison Brown. My own Mother only knew him as "Harrison Brown." Concerning the Hartley's in Jackson Co., Ohio...I'm not quite sure. I have info about a Hartley ancestor named Daniel who moved to southern Ohio around 1830. This could possibly be some of his family. I am not sure about the other Hartley's from Virginia, either. I am descended from a Thomas Hartley born about 1760 from Virginia. He came into Kentucky about 1800. I have several internet cousins (like yourself) who are researching the Hartley line. Thomas' first born son was named John. We feel that he could have possibly been named after Thomas' father (as it was the custom to do). But, no one has been able to confirm Thomas' parents names. Are you related to the John Hartley that you mentioned, and do you know if he had a son named Thomas or William? Where did you get your info? Is it on the internet? Any other info you have would be appreciated. Take Care! Cozi Hartley-Alley

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From: RLindsly1@ |Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 15:32:16 EST Subject: Re: my browns,,,, To: jwgrace99@

In a message dated 12/29/01 12:19:29 PM Central Standard Time, jwgrace99@ writes:

I am related to the Carter Co., Ky. branch of the Brown clan via Low Brown’s daughter, Cynthia M. Brown. Cynthia married Thomas Jefferson Campbell. Tom and Cynthia’s daughter, Sarah Alice Campbell, married Jeremiah Jacob Hunt Ross. My mother, Betty Ross, is Jeremiah’s grand daughter.

Dear John,I read your email to Lyle with much interest. Your line and mine parted ways with Low Brown. You are descended from his daughter, Cynthia, and I am descended from her older brother, George D. Brown. My line goes from George D. Brown who was married to Mary Horton Kendall through their son, Allen Kendall Brown who was married to Eliza Lykins. Their son, Kelly Brown, was my grandfather. He was born in Caney (Morgan Co.), Kentucky in 1884. The family moved to Oklahoma, Indian Territory in about 1890, and my mother, Martha Elizabeth Brown, was born in Ardmore, Oklahoma in 1911. I have quite a bit on the Lykins, but very little on the Kendalls. However, I understand there is some tie-in between the Browns and the Kendall who founded Kendall Co., Texas. I have researched this but have failed to come up with anything that shows a connection. Thanks for your email. I would be happy to provide details from my line if you are interested.Richard Rand "Dick" Lindsly --- Frisco, Texas

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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:11:17 -0800 (PST) From: "larry -norma j garris" |Subject: our browns To: "John Grace"

john,,good to get your email,,i go from low jr,byway of his daughter elizabeth b:1836 and marriedtubal manning, tubal and elizabeth had a daughter martha manning who married james cox ,,,thier daughteramanda ,my grandmother married nelson garris elliottcounty,,i found a lot of names to go with mary tabor,,if youdont get any hits on your email get back with me,,do you know where low jr and mary are buried?? you mentioned a lot of names that i recognizedboggs etc etc, i was in elliott county and carter county today as a matter of fact,,i went to the clay cemetery wheretubal manning is buried and took pictures of hisstone,,there was an unmarked grave beside him ???maybeelizabeth brown manning??his wife. hope to hear ,,,,,,later larry garris

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From: PEGGYBOGGS@ |Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:29:15 EST Subject: Re: my browns,,,, To: jwgrace99@

Have you tried the Sparks Family Association, Russell E. Bidlack, Sec-Tres, 1709 Cherokee Rd, Ann Arbor MI 48104? The originator and former head was Paul Sparks, cousin of my husband. He recently died. The work done by this association is really great. Paul Sparks' family is from Lawrence, Elliott, Carter area of KY.My husband is from Webbville, Lawrence Co, KY. His mother was a Sparks. Also, his niece by marriage is a Sparks. Webbville is very near where Carter, Elliott and Lawrence Cos come together. You can be across the road and be in another county. I have not spent much time on the Sparks family because the SFA has done so much.I had read the article in the Carter Co History re Low Brown Jr.'s descendants. I have histories of both Carter and Lawrence cos. I am descended from Low's daughter Martha through the Peerys. They went to Floyd Co KY. My maternal grandmother was named Mahala Jane Salyer. Her grandmother was named Mahala Jane Gullett. (See Sue Brown's family. Sue and I are related here.) I know of no connection to yours, but sometimes this is a clue. My two Mahala Janes lived in Magoffin and Morgan counties, KY. Try contacting She is excellent and lives very near Corning and Wetmore KS. The official transportation map of Kansas lists an Oak Hill, Oakley, Offerle, Olathe, Olivet, Olmitz, Olpe, Olsburg and Onaga, but no Olive Hill. My husband and I both have some connections to Olive Hill, KY. researches Tacketts of Eastern KY.There are (or were) Browns in Morgan Co KY. Henry Harlan Brown (see Lyle's chart) was a teacher (as I remember he taught at West Liberty High) and became a lawyer. He moved to Ardmore OK before 1900 and was very successful there. He and his parents are buried in Ardmore. He has a descendant in her 70's that is probably still living. I am related to Henry Harlan's wife.Enjoyed your E-mail.

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sent to jfjj98@ 1/1/2002

Hi, Bette, it's been a long time since we've been in touch. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and New Year holiday.I’ll try to fill you in on what I’ve found most recently:

I’ve been in contact with a couple more descendents of Nancy (Kinnamon) Ross’s family. I have a fair amount of new info on John Kinnamon’s (Nancy’s brother) son George Kinnamon’s family. Also, I may not have mentioned to you that the 1860 Platte Co., Mo. census appears to give us Nancy’s father, George W. Kinnamon (b. Jan. 15, 1794 in Maryland ). I haven’t been able to find George in my “Kinnamon Family in America” book yet, but, we’re getting closer. On this line I’ve also been trying to track down info on the Rachel Kinnamon who married Austin Vanlandingham on Aug. 30, 1847 in Ky. I believe I had them on the Kinnamon chart I sent to you before. Anyway, I have been in contact with a descendent of Rachel through her second husband, William Abner Fox. No real break throughs on this yet, but there is good circumstantial evidence to suggest the Rachel is a sister to Nancy and John.

I’m about 75% sure I have identified John Nelson Ross’s mother. There was an Elizabeth Ross who married Joshua Vanlandingham on Feb. 11, 1829 in Bath Co., Ky.. I believe this is the couple who signed John and Nancy’s 1839 marriage bond. One of the signatures is difficult to read, and I had been assuming that it was “Jas” Vanlandingham, so I had been looking for a James. I now believe that the signature is that of Joshua Vanlandingham. The marriage of Joshua and Elizabeth was the second for both. According to the book “The Vanlandingham Genealogy, Vol. II” which I just got a few weeks ago, Joshua probably had 2 children with his first wife (whose name is unknown), named Alfred and Madison. Apperently Joshua’s wife died, and he married “Mrs. Ross”. According to the book, Joshua and Elizabeth then had 4 more children: Valentine, Malinda, Susannah and Bluford. Now the wierd part: as you know, in 1845, John Nelson Ross and Nancy moved from Bath to Carter County. Well, on the 1850 census, there is a family living next to them: Joshua Flanegan, 63, farmer, North Carolina; Betsey,56, Ky.; Linda,15, Ky.; Bewford, 12, Ky.; Susana Ross,25, Ky. “blind”. Well, according to Leon Vanlandingham, the author of the Vanlandingham Genealogy, this Flanegan family is actually the Joshua Vanlandingham family after they changed their name!! Wierd, right? It seems that this has happened on other occassions with the Vanlandingham name. All the names and ages are right on. Once you get past the name change, it seems kind of obvious. When John and Nancy moved to Carter County, John’s mother and step father moved at the same time!

A couple of things still keep me from saying that this explanation is 100% correct. Most importantly, why don’t any of John and Nancy’s descendents have any knowledge of John’s family living in Carter County? That seems totally out of character for the way people live down there. Also, there don’t appear to be any photos of either Elizabeth or Joshua that have been passed down through the our Ross’s.

Now, the last curiosity on the 1850 census. Did I mention Reuben Truman Ross to you before? Anyway, on the 1850 census, living right next to John Nelson Ross and the Flanegan family, is one Reuben Ross. I’ve spent a lot of hours writing letters gathering information on Reuben: Reuben Truman Ross, b. Sept. 11, 1822 in Ky., d. 29 Sept. 1868, age 46y, 18 in Neodesha KS. is buried in Ross Cem., Wilson Co., Ks.. Reuben married Rebecca L. James on 7 SEP 1848 in Carter,Ky . She was b. 14 SEP 1831 in Carter,Ky and d. 21 Apr 1882/1892 in Neodesha, Wilson, Kansas buried in Ross Cem., Wilson Co., Ks.. Reuben was the son of Richard Ross and Catherine McCleese (married 29 Sep 1814 in Bath Co. KY.). Some time in the mid 1850’s, Reuben moved his family to Kansas. He died there at a fairly young age (he drowned crossing a river), but I have quite a lot of information on his descendents. There are several pieces which seem to link Reuben with John Nelson Ross: 1) the 1850 census; 2) his father married into the same McClease clan as Andrew Zornes and Rachel Rhodisa "Dicie" Tackett; 3) and this is the GOOD one, I have a copy of an old tintype photo of an elderly lady which is entitled: “Becky Ross, born 1831”. This was given to me by Opal Sparks, a descendent of John Nelson Ross’s son, Reuben Ross. Opal has never been able to identify who this Becky Ross is, but you know what, Rebecca (James) Ross, wife of Reuben Truman Ross, was BORN IN 1831!! Gives you goose bumps, huh?! My guess is that, some time after Reuben Truman Ross died in Kansas, Rebecca, well up in years, decided to send a photo of herself to Reuben Ross back in Kentucky. We might even guess that our Reuben Ross was named after Reuben Truman Ross. Reuben Truman Ross might have been John Nelson Ross’s cousin, it doesn’t seem likely that they were brothers.

Now, piece number 4 (or maybe 3 and a half). The above Richard Ross, father of Reuben Truman Ross, also had a son named Jacob, and daughters Mary, Margaret and Eleanor. As fate would have it, Jacob married Elizabeth Denton on 26 Sep 1815 in Bath Co., KY; Mary married Rev. Jeremiah M. Hunt on 27 October 1805; and Margaret married Wesley Denton on 23 November 1818 in Fleming Co., Ky.. These Denton and Hunt families also married into the Bath County Vanlandinghams, AND, were the same families that John Nelson Ross appears living next to (or with), on the 1840 Bath County census!! Is that the perfecta, or what??? God I LOVE genealogy!! BTW, the above referenced Rev. Jeremiah Hunt is my best (only?) candidate as source for my great grandfather’s rather unusual name: Jeremiah Jacob Hunt Ross.

Please bare with me, I’m almost done.. On the 1820 Bath County census there is a Betsy Ross. Betsy is the head of household, and with her is 1 male (0-4). Right now I’m guessing that the male is John Nelson Ross (age 2), and that Betsy is the same Elizabeth Ross who is about to marry Joshua Vanlandingham. On the 1820 census the following names are listed, one under the other:

West Denton

John Vanlandingham

Joshua Vanlandingham

William Denton

Betsy Ross

Sarah Denton

Polly Vanlandingham

I’ve been searching and searching for documentary evidence to support or refute my theory, but still don’t have it. It shore is interestin’ though..

Well, I didn’t intend to write so long, but I would be very interested in your opinion of my speculations. Got lots more to tell you if your interested. Hope to hear from you soon,

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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: "eli mac" |Subject: Re: Our Ross genealogy To: "John Grace"

Hi, Well the sun is shining here, that makes a feller fellbetter. In the 40's and no snow. No, I don't know whoMartha Deboard's parents were but have never tried tolook either. My address is Bette Greenhill, 6455 StateHwy. 2, Olive Hill, KY. 41164. My husband is relatedto the Sparks, Mauk, Armstrong, Boggs, Whitt familiesalso. His mother was a Moore but different bunch thanthe O.H. bunch. Her came out of Floyd Co. KY toElliott Co. The Boggs md. the Harpers then Mauks md.Sparks, the Whitts md. Boggs and Mauks and Sparks, andon and on back and forth. I have a great deal on theSparks, if you need me to look up something and aloton the Harper, Mauk or Mock family and the Gearheartand Carpenter, also, the Cox fam. Let me know. Bette

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From: "Mike Moore" |To: "John Grace" Subject: RE: Lawrence County genealogy posting Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:28:25 -0500

John, I wish I did! Did my email give their dates of birth and death? (Bertha: 1881-1967) (Charlotte: 1906-1982) (Walter: 1900-1972 -- I think! There were several Walters in the Ohio death index. I think I also mentioned that Bertha married a James Yates from Ashland, KY -- a barber -- and he died in 1923. I knew Bertha (Aunt Bird) and Charlotte but did not spend much time there. They all lived in Ironton. Unfortunately, Henry is not in the Ohio Historical Society Death Index, which lists deaths only from 1913-1937.Michael Moore

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From: "Russ DeBord" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: DeBord genealogy Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:16:42 -0400

Hi John: I don't know of any pictures that Fred had, I live in Massillon, Ohio. I don't have much information on the Ross', mine just goes back to John Nelson Ross (b-1818, d-1890). He married Nancy Jane Gibson in 1840, she was born in 1819. I would appreciate any info on the Ross'. I will ask about pictures, if I locate any, I can scan them and e-mail them to you. Nice to hear from you, hope we can exchange info. God Bless

Russ DeBord Massillon, OH

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--- BDCRAFTYONE@ wrote:

> DEAR MR. BROWN,

> THE WALTER WILSON BROWN YOU HAVE

> LISTED IN YOUR FAMILY

> TREE WOULD BE MY GREAT GRANDFATHER. I BELIEVE THE

> MALE SON YOU REFER TO AS

> ONE OF HIS CHILDREN WOULD BE MY GRANDFATHER, HERBERT

> THOMPSON BROWN. HIS

> DAUGHTER BLONDINA IS MY MOTHER. SHE WAS NAMED AFTER

> HER AUNT BLONDINA.WALTERS

> DAUGHTER BLONDINA MY GREAT AUNT JUST PASSED AWAY

> THIS JANUARY THIRD, 2002. I

> WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE INFO. THANK YOU FOR

> DOING ALOT OF THE LEG WORK

> FOR THIS FANTASTIC FAMILY TREE.

>

> SINCERELY,

>

> DANIEL D CRAFT

Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:37:07 -0800 (PST)

From: "Lyle Brown" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject: Re: Brown / another Barns

To: "Bill Barns" , "gladys harrison" , "Cheri Jarvis" , "Susan Ferguson" , "Cozi J. Alley" , "Bill Bailey" , "Carolyn Bartee" , "Ed Freda Bates" , "Diane Bingham" , "Peggy Boggs" , "Don Brown" , "Doug Brown" , "Fred Brown" , "Ann Brown-Juarez" , "DONNA BURRY" , "Daniel Craft" , "Faye Dalton" , "Terry Danley" , "Dean Dickson" , "John Donohew" , "Memory Frost" , "larry -norma j garris" , "Mike Gordon" , "John Grace" , "Oland Green" , "Jerry Hamilton" , "Fern Heyde" , "Kimberly Huddleston Pota" , "Helen Jordan" , "Gloria Lambert" , "Dick Lindsly" , "Charlotte BROWN MAURER" , "Pam Renfro" , "Jerry SMITH" , "Darlene Steffens" , "Mary Tabor" , "Mac Webb"

Thank you for contacting me. I appreciate it and am

always happy to hear from a new cousin. Thank you for

the compliment. Yes, I believe most of my information

on your family came from JHU.

If you didn't see it, there is a great story about

your ancestor, Robert Barns and his cousin on my

webpage. It's under the MUSTARD family info.

I assume you saw the photos and genetic chart

concerning symphalangism. I'm surprised at the number

of persons from all over the world who contact me

about that.

I have added your information to my database and will

be uploading it in a few days. Let me know if you

think of anything else. I'm going to pass your note

along to some other Brown/Barns contacts I have.

Thanks, again.

Lyle



--- Bill Barns wrote:

> Greetings,

>

> I've recently been looking at your Brown genealogy

> on a couple of websites. I don't do any systematic

> genealogy work, but occasionally take a little time

> to work with databases of people and somehow

> wandered into this. I'm very impressed by the extent

> and quality of data you have gathered, especially in

> that some errors I've seen elsewhere didn't crop up

> in yours. I don't know how much of this to credit to

> theJohns Hopkins data, which you probably have in a

> cleaner form than I have. I thought for a while that

> you must have a good informant somewhere close to me

> in the family tree, but on looking through the

> websites some more, now I think it may just be that

> you have the best JHU information.

>

> There are almost certainly places where I can

> provide amplifying information, but most of what

> small amount is written I don't know where to find,

> and probably will not look for on any particular

> schedule. However, here is some information pulled

> right out of my memory, to give you an idea of what

> my scope of "knowledge" is. If there is something

> here of special interest that you want me to look

> into especially, please let me know and I'll think

> about what I can do.

>

> Best regards,

> /Bill Barns

>

> ==========

>

> I am William Winston Barns Jr. My father was your

> reference number 64B2416. He was born, as you note,

> 18 July 1913, in the town of Tazewell, VA. He died 4

> June 1996 in Reston, Fairfax Co., VA. His wife, my

> mother, was Myrtle Jeannette Herbert, born 7

> December 1917 in Washington, DC, died 16 December

> 1994 in Reston, VA. They were married on 5 Feb 1949

> in Washington, DC. This was his only marriage, but

> her second. Her first husband was Lawrence Tyree. I

> don't have any information about Lawrence Tyree

> other than a vague impression that he was in the

> Navy or something else seagoing in WWII and died in

> service.

>

> For myself: William Winston Barns Jr, born 6 Dec

> 1957 in Washington, DC. Married Lori Ann Badertscher

> on 6 March 1993 in Arlington, VA. Lori was born on

> 30 June 1960 in Bluffton, Allen Co, OH. No children,

> none expected although the possibility still exists.

> Now residing in Vienna, Fairfax Co, VA.

>

> I'm pretty certain now that all of my father's

> siblings are also deceased. People did not keep in

> very close touch, had moved apart for many years,

> and those of my generation were for the most part

> not in any contact with each other. The last

> survivor that I was uncertain of was Frank Bundy

> Barns, but I believe I found his Social Security

> death record in 2001. I may have some of their death

> dates aroundt the house here in the small remainder

> of my father's effects.

>

> The symphalangism trait in our branch of the family

> is referred to as the "stiff finger". It is, so I am

> told, always the same finger (your writeup suggests

> otherwise so perhaps this varies in branches of the

> William Brown line, but among all relatives I ever

> heard speak of it, it was always the same).

>

> I have fragments of information about my father's

> brothers and sister and their children.

>

> I was told by Uncle Carl that the first 5 of them

> were born in the Cove and the last 2 in the

> hospital. Attending physician was Dr. Melvin

> Crockett, who appears in your genealogy file, I

> believe.

>

> Robert Joseph Boyd Barns:

> Note the full name... if he had to omit one he'd

> leave out the Boyd; but his usual signature was

> "R.J.B. Barns".

> had 2 marriages. Louise, shown in your file, is

> second. I cannot recall the first now.

> He died in Richmond, VA, I think somewhere around

> 1993, where he was living with his daughter Patty.

> I recall two children, Freddy and Patty. Freddy was

> adopted. I'm not sure about Patty (who may have been

> Patricia; but I don't think Freddy was Frederick). I

> believe that both children were married.

>

> John Alexander Barns:

> the one marriage you show is all.

> He died before my father. I remember one of my

> parents telling me that Elva called; showing that

> she survived him.

> They had only one child - adopted - I am wanting to

> say her name was Ann. Her married name was Taylor.

> Ann and her husband had a number of children. The

> first, Johnny, was adopted. From the context of some

> memories I would estimate Johnny's birth date as

> around 1960. I understood that there were a number

> of younger, "blood" Taylor children.

>

> Charles Otis Barns:

> the one marriage you show is all. His wife's maden

> name was Vaden.

> There wre three children: Charlsie, Mary Ellen

> (??less certain of this one), and William Barns (not

> me).

> Otis was living on the Eastern Shore of Virginia

> when he died sometime in the late 80s or 90s. As of

> 1996, his wife was still alive and reachable and I

> had an address for her.

> I think all of the children were married, but only

> feel sure about William, because I seem to recall

> seeing a wedding announcement for his son (also

> William, I think). I will look for this.

>

> Carl Hurt Barns:

> one marriage is correct. No children.

> He died of lung cancer around 1981-82 in some

> hospital near his home in the Pocono Mts of eastern

> PA. I was at the funeral so I may have something

> that shows the date. He was buried in Sayre, PA.

> I'm not in touch with his widow (my Aunt Muriel) but

> interestingly she still seems to be in the phone

> book for Cresco (or Mountainhome), Monroe Co, PA.

> She was just a little older than my father, and was

> close to blind a decade ago. She has, or had, a

> sister Shirley, whose husband was Ray. Shirley and

> Ray had, I think, two daughters, of whom one,

> Eleanor, had some sort of connection by marriage to

> the Gillespie families of Tazewell, VA.

>

> Frank Bundy Barns:

> His wife was June Nicewonder. I'm a little

> suspicious of the spelling but the one document I

> ever saw spelled it that way.

> As I mentioned, I think he's the one in the SSDI

> file if you search for Frank B Barns.

> There were children; I seem to recall a couple of

> daughters of which one was called PeeGee (I think).

> I never met any of these cousins. I have a

> recollection that she (and her family) moved to NC

> many years ago. Frank was for a while living around

> Smith Mtn Lake but I suspect he ended up moving down

> where PeeGee was.

>

> Sarah Ellen Barns:

> This is probably saving the best for last, for your

> purposes, since the stiff finger went on this way.

> She died sometime in the 80's in hospital after very

> extended health problems of which Parkinson's

> disease was a part. As of that time, her husband,

> Milton Jackson(Jack) Gwin, was still alive. Jack

> Gwin was once pressroom foreman at the newspaper in

> Staunton, VA, and probably not coincidentally a

> sizable obituary was published, of which I may have

> a proof copy.

> Three children, as shown: Ellen, Georgia, M.J. Jr

> (Jackie)

> All were married. Jackie was either married a second

> time, or planning to be, when the actual or intended

> second passed away.

> Ellen:

> husband was Charles Lilly.

> There were children. I get a bit confused between

> hers and Georgia's so I should not say anything too

> definite, but I am thinking three, Penelope (Penny),

> David, and Pam. I think their birthdates are roughly

> in the range 1955-1962.

> She died somewhere around 1985-1992.

> Georgia:

> husband is.Eugene Holder.

> I think there were five children when last I knew.

> I believe Georgia had the stiff finger and vaguely

> think that one child did.

> I am pretty convinced that Georgia has

> grandchildren.

> I think she worked at the VA Dept of Motor Vehicles

> for a good long while.

> The good news, if someone feels like working hard

> enough to look into it, is that the Holders are

> almost certainly living somewhere between

> Staunton/Waynesboro and Richmond areas, and probably

> can be found to expand on the genealogy.

> Milton Jackson Gwin Jr (Jackie):

> no specifics on marriage(s) known to me.

> Seem to recall there was an M.J. Gwin III who would

> probably be in his 30s now.

>

--- jerry smith wrote:

> Lyle-----This is an update and slight corrections on

> names, birth order, etc. in my Brown connection. I

> know about some of the families of two of Belle's

> sisters because they married brothers of George

> Alexander Smith, but decided I had better stick with

> my own line.

>

> (Rebecca Isabell Brown, daughter of Samuel Pepper

> Brown.)

>

> REBECCA (BELLE) ISABELL BROWN b. 25 Feb 1855. d. 28

> June 1919. m. George Alexander Smith b. 9 Sept 1846.

> d. 9 Nov. 1905

>

> Children:

>

> (1) Robert (Bob) Dresden Smith. b. 6 Nov. 1880 d. 29

> Nov. 1963. m. Jeffie (Boone) Shipley. b. 2 Feb.

> 1892. d. 11 Nov 1983. (no children)

>

> (2) Alvin Alexander Smith. b. 5 Feb. 1882. d. 4 Jun.

> 1914 m. Johnnie Howell. (no children)

>

> (3) Warren (Ham) Hamilton Smith b. 28 Feb. 1884. d.

> 5 Jan 1972. m. Rebecca Floyd. b. 7 Mar. 1897. d.

> 1997. children: (A) Mary Katherine Smith. b. 5 Jan.

> 1917. d. 7 Feb. 1970. m. Lloyd Murry. b.? d. ?

> Children: (aa) Rebecca Jo Murry. (bb)Robert Murry.

> (B) Warren Hamilton Smith Jr. b. 28 Jan 1921. d. 2

> Apr. 1996. m. Francis Keim. Children: (aa) Vickie

> Kay Smith. (bb) Warren Keim Smith.

>

> (4) Andrew Grover Smith. b. 9 Sep. 1885. d. 31 Dec.

> 1957. m. Audrey Wisdom. Children: (A) Grover Warren

> Smith.

>

> (5) John Wilson Smith. b. 2 Dec. 1890. d. 9 Mar.

> 1947. m. Essie Faye Jones. b. 9 Feb. 1895. d. 7 Aug.

> 1981. Children. (A) Mildred Ava Smith (Living). m.

> Burl Loyd Thompson. b. 21 Apr. 1912. d. 14 Jun.

> 1986. Children: (aa) James John Thompson. (B) Genia

> Belle Smith. b. 27 Aug. 1915. d. 28 Mar. 1995. m.

> Wendell Hampton Sparks. b. 2 Aug. 1918. d. 30 Nov.

> 1986. (No children). (C) Lucy Lou Smith. (Living).

> m. Robert Carl Fite. (Living). Children: (aa)

> Cynthia Ann Fite. (bb) Priscilla Jane Fite). (D)

> John Wilson Smith Jr. b. 6 Feb. 1923. d. 16 May

> 1968. m. Dorothy JoAnn McArthur. (Living). Children

> (aa) Barbara JoAnn Smith. (bb) John Wilson Smith

> III. (E) George Jones Smith. b. 11 April 1925. d.

> 17 Dec. 1997. m. Martha Jane Taylor (Living).

> Children: (aa) George Clay Smith. (bb) Polly Jane

> Smith. (F) Jerry Don Smith. b. 1 July 1931.

> (Living, never married).

>

> As you can see the Johns Hopkins book has my sister

> Lucy's birth order and mine reversed.

>

> If you ever want to know I can tell you where all

> the deceased are buried...

>

>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:39:27 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Lyle Brown" |Subject: New Brown contact

To: "Cozi J. Alley" , "Bill Bailey" , "Carolyn Bartee" , "Ed Freda Bates" , "Connie Bila" , "diane bila" , "Diane Bingham" , "Peggy Boggs" , "Don Brown" , "Doug Brown" , "Fred Brown" , "Ann Brown-Juarez" , "DONNA BURRY" , "Daniel Craft" , "Faye Dalton" , "Terry Danley" , "Dean Dickson" , "John Donohew" , "Memory Frost" , "larry -norma j garris" , "Mike Gordon" , "John Grace" , "Oland Green" , "Annie Guevara" , "Jerry Hamilton" , "Fern Heyde" , "Kimberly Huddleston Pota" , "Cheri Jarvis" , "Helen Jordan" , "Brad Kearns" , "Gloria Lambert" , "Dick Lindsly" , "Charlotte BROWN MAURER" , "Clarice Miles" , "Mary Ann Reed" , "Pam Renfro" , "Jerry SMITH" , "Darlene Steffens" , "Mary Tabor" , "Mac Webb"

Hi guys,I was contacted by a new cousin who has "stifffingers". He is descended from Low, Jr. through hisdaugher Sarah Matilda who m. Lazurus Bear.Lula Bear m. Andrew Jackson MaukMyrtle Mauk m. Hobart Mabry

Ed R. MabryI'll let you know if I get any other information.Lyle

Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 23:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lyle Brown" |Subject: Andrew Brown/J. Harvey Brown To: "Cozi J. Alley" , "Bill Bailey" , "Carolyn Bartee" , "Ed Freda Bates" , "Connie Bila" , "diane bila" , "Diane Bingham" , "Peggy Boggs" , "Don Brown" , "Doug Brown" , "Fred Brown" , "Ann Brown-Juarez" , "DONNA BURRY" , "Daniel Craft" , "Faye Dalton" , "Terry Danley" , "Dean Dickson" , "John Donohew" , "Memory Frost" , "larry -norma j garris" , "Mike Gordon" , "John Grace" , "Oland Green" , "Annie Guevara" , "Jerry Hamilton" , "Fern Heyde" , "Kimberly Huddleston Pota" , "Cheri Jarvis" , "Helen Jordan" , "Brad Kearns" , "Gloria Lambert" , "Dick Lindsly" , "Charlotte BROWN MAURER" , "Clarice Miles" , "Mary Ann Reed" , "Pam Renfro" , "Jerry SMITH" , "Darlene Steffens" , "Mary Tabor" , "Mac Webb" , "Elaine (Barker) Westerfield"

Hi guys,Just wanted to let you know that I have made someadjustments to my file concerning Andrew D. & JaneMcDonald Brown and descendants.I recently received an email from a gal claiming to bedescended from this family. However, her informationdid not jibe with mine. So....I did some digging and found the tombstones of Andrewand Jane as well as J. Harvey and wife and twochildren.Andrew and Jane were in Charlton Co, MO in 1850, whichis where this gal was connecting. She was citingburials in the Brown cemetery in that county.Unfortunately, her John H. Brown is NOT our J. Harveyas ours are definitely buried in Grundy Co.The 1840 census finds Andrew in Tazewell with twodaughters under 5 (Mary and Elizabeth) and twodaughters 5-10. Andrew's tombstone includes aninscription "Last tribute by 3 surviving children:Mary, Elizabeth and John G."We can assume from that, that the other two diedbefore the family moved to Missouri.I had listed a John G. as a son of Andrew but it isapparent that John G. is actually J. Harvey. (since hewas alive at the time). Probably whoever transcribedthe tombstone either mistyped or misread the "G".I also had Andrew and Jane both dying in 1915. (I waseither drunk or watching a ballgame on TV when Ientered that!). The correct death dates are nowlisted.Just wanted to let you know that if you copied any ofmy data, you may want to check my site for updatedinformation.



Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:09:51 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Lyle Brown" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Subject: Re: Browns

To: ASBJ56@

CC: "Cozi J. Alley" , "Bill Bailey" , "Carolyn Bartee" , "Ed & Freda Bates" , "Connie Bila" , "diane bila" , "Diane Bingham" , "Peggy Boggs" , "(Ray)mon Brown" , "Don Brown" , "Doug Brown" , "Fred Brown" , "John K. Brown" , "Ann Brown-Juarez" , "DONNA BURRY" , "Dianne Clark" , "Daniel Craft" , "Faye Dalton" , "Terry Danley" , "Dean Dickson" , "John Donohew" , "Ivy Fenske" , "Memory Frost" , "larry -norma j garris" , "Mike Gordon" , "John Grace" , "Oland Green" , "Annie Guevara" , "Judy Rose Hanning" , "Fern Heyde" , "Kimberly Huddleston Pota" , "Cheri Jarvis" , "Helen Jordan" , "Brad Kearns" , "Gloria Lambert" , "Dick Lindsly" , "Charlotte BROWN MAURER" , "Clarice Miles" , "Mary Ann Reed" , "Pam Renfro" , "Susan Riaz" , "Jerry SMITH" , "Darlene Steffens" , "Mary Tabor" , "Mac Webb" , "Elaine (Barker) Westerfield" , "Janet Woods"

Ann,

As the saying goes, leave no stone unturned.A couple of thoughts immediately come to mind. An ad in a Glasgownewspaper and/or a letter to the historical society there.

Let's keep truckin'

Lyle

--- ASBJ56@ wrote:

> Lyle, back some time ago, I told you that one of my 85+ year old cousins

> told me our Browns hailed from Vinegar Hill, Scotland. You found the following:

>

> I found 5 references to Vinegar Hill. 3 in England, 1 in Wales (a town), and 1 in Scotland. All but the one in Wales is listed as 'other', meaning a reference to an area, a farm, etc.

> The Vinegar Hill in Scotland is in County Perth & Kinross, located near Glen Garry and Loch Rannouch. Specifically at 56 Degrees 53.8 Minutes North, 4 Degrees 8.6 Minutes West. I checked the Scotland County Directory for 1912 and did not find anything about Vinegar Hill. Did locate some Browns in Perth, though.

> Source: rlylebrown@> .uk/products/landranger/index.htm

> ------------------------------------------------

> I also received the following from another Brown:

> There was at one time a district in Glasgow (? Lanark) called Vinegar Hill. I can't find it in my PO Directories but know it was out around the Camlachie/Parkhead area on the northeast of the city. I think it may

> have been outside of Glasgow around the time you're talking about, the best place to enquire about it if you think it may be the place is at the Mitchell Library - who's email address I've lost since updating my address book.

> Source: Douglas.S.Brown@

> Just this week I received another response to my online query of Vinegar Hill:

> Your message was posted some time ago but if you're still interested- my grandmother (born in 1900) used to say, "Lady Muck from Vinegar Hill Never worked and never will."

> The only other fact I know about it is that the fair which was held on Glasgow Green for many centuries moved out to Vinegar Hill, somewhere in the East End, during the 19th century.

> Vinegar Hill has been a source of fascination to me since I was writing a paper on the Glasgow Fair Holiday a few years ago. I've done a lot of research in the Mitchell Library (mentioned by another one of your respondents) but couldn't pinpoint exactly where it is. I only found out about my grandmother's rhyme by chance when I mentioned Vinegar Hill to my Mum. My grandmother wasn't from Glasgow so Vinegar Hill must have been a well enough known place at one time -> perhaps because the fairground was there. I thought you might be interested in this and maybe it is a valid place to research for our original William father of Low. What do you think?

> Ann

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Here is the Mauk info. Peter Mauk Sr. b. Apr. 7, 1781 NC d. feb 13, 1859 Gimlet, Carter Co. KY md. abt 1818 Eleanor "Nellie" Sparks b. 1792NC d. March 7, 1858 Gimlet, Carter Co. KY d/o Thomas Sparks and Rebecca. Peter and Eleanor Mauk were the parents of Frederick M. Mauk Sr. b. Mar 26, 1827 Lawrence Co. KY d. Feb 4, 1901 Gimlet, Elliott Co. KY md. April 2, 1862, Sarah Sparks b. 1840 d. 1877. Frederick also married Feb 24, 1878 Elliott Co. KY Amanda A. "Annis" Cox b. Nov 30, 1841 Floyd Co. VA. d. after 1910 d/o Mark P. Cox and Sarah Hane Reynolds. Children of Frederick and Sarah were [1.]Margaret Mauk b. 1861 md ? Slusher,[2] Andrew Jackson Mauk b. July 6, 1862 d. Aug 5, 1938 md. Lula Bear b. April 1883 d. March 14, 1956. Both are buried in the Old Mauk Cem. Their tombstones are marked "Father" and "Mother" but don't have children's names. There is nothing said about him marrying an Elizabeth Cox. I looked in this Cox book and couldn't found any Elizabeth Cox. [3] Mary J. Mauk b. 1864 [4] Antha J. Mauk b. 1866 [5] John F. Mauk b. 1868 md. 2 abt 1898 Kenda ? b. 1875 [6] Peter Wade Mauk b. 1869 md. Sarah Mabry b. 1864 [7] Rebecca S. Mauk b. 1871 [8]Sarah C. Mauk b. 1873 [9]Melvina Mauk b. 1876 md. a Cox [I can't find right now]I'll have to look somemore for the Whitt and Ross stuff. I don't really think the Vanlandinghams changed their name to Flanigan, I think the census taker couldn't spell and that is what it sounded like to him, Flanigan. I have alot of Whitt info. There are no Vanlandinghams in my files. Later Bette

Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 06:19:06 -0800 (PST) From: "eli mac" |Subject: Re: Our Ross genealogy To: "John Grace"

I found Andrew Jackson had several wifes, will get toit later.One was Elizabeth Cox. i went to the libraryat Morehead, KY yesterday and Sat.and looked in theCarter Co Vit St. film. About 7 hrs all together andstill not finished. But here are some things ofinterest to you. Sept. 17, 1852 John N. Rofs and NancyKenamman lived Tygarts Creek, Carter Co. Child bornRachel Ellen Elizabeth Flaugher, Mid Wife. RecordedMar 16, 1853. There were several pages where peoplehad kids but they had failed to copy the kids anddates but had parents.Some of the parents were ThomasWilliams and Martha Rofs, Reuben Rofs and RebeccaJames, Wm. Gay and mary An Rofs, ValentineVanlandingham and Polly James. Silas Rofs b. 5-15-1853 parents Reuben Rofs andRebecca James. Andrew J.Rofs b. 12-21-1855. the day ishard to readI'm guessing. Alice Gay b. 10-19-1855parents Wm. Gay and Mary An Rofs. David J. b.11-6-1855 parents are Nelson Rofs and Nancy Kinnimen.Jeremiah J. b. 11-1-1856 parents John N. Rofs andnancy Kennimen. Austin b. 11-11-1857 parents ValentineVanlandingham and Polly James. Child's name blank b.10-23, 1858 parents Wm. Gay and Mary Ann Ross. NancyA. Rofs b. 11-17-1859 parents John N. Rofs and nancyKinnemen. Charles L. Vandlandingham b. 6=15=1859parent is Malinda Vanlandingham. W. M.D. b.4-5-1859parents Thomas Williams and Martha Jane Rofs.Blufford D. b. 10-15-1859 parents ValentineVanlandingham and Polly James. John F. b. 11-15-1861parents John and Nancy Ross born/dead. These aredeaths: George W. Vanlandingham 1yr. 6months died May1, 1855 Croupe, s/o Valentine and Polly Vanlandingham.Harman T. or F. d. 6-19-1875 parents Rubin F. Rofs andLucy Armstrong. Mary Vanlandingham d. 1-14-1876 age 2yrs, parents Valentine Vanlandingham It says fatherborn in Fleming Co. and mother b. in Carter Co. KY.Thats all so far on that film. I found noVanlandinghams in the 1860 Carter Co. KY Census. 1870Carter Co. Census has a Flanig Vanlandingham age 37farmer b. KY [out to the side says died 1875] wifeMary age 32, Elizabeth age 14, Austin age 10, Bluefordage 8, Daniel age 4, Marion age 2, James age 1. allborn in KY. I found Andrew Jackson "Son" Mauk b. July 6, 1862 d.Aug 5, 1938 parents Frederick Mauk and Sarah J. Sparksmd. 1. Elizabeth Cox 2. Sarah Goodman child: EthelMauk 3. Lula Bear b. April 18, 1883 children Myrtle,Brack, Jake, Harold, Della, Elsie, Avie.In this Cox book it says that the Mauk were fromgermany , the German name was Maag. Hans Peter Maag orMauk born in Germany in 1708 is said tobe thegrandfather of peter Mauk Sr. the settler of CarterCo. KY. Hans peter Maag came to America aboard theship Samuel and landed in the port of Philadelphia [coming up the Delaware River] He moved to theShenandoah Valley of VA. and descendants lived in NC.I can copy and send to you if you want or scan andsend you a few pages at a time. I found a Edgar Milford Whitt b. Dec 22, 1871 Elliott Co. KY parents were Edmund Whitt and Mary Jane Rice. Thats all on them so far. Got to run, later Bette---

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Reply-to: "btaylor" From: "btaylor" To: "John Grace" Subject: Martins Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:49:50 -0500

Thanks so much for the info. I can't give you any ideas on the slip of paper, the only name that my Mom ever mentioned were her gdad Robert, ggdad Hugh and uncle Link, other than that I haven't a clue about the rest. I was three months old when her gdad was killed and we went to the funeral, that was the one and only time I was ever in S.Ohio, I have made a few connections and would really like to visit there some day.

I hope you don't mind - I forwarded your info. to my two sister and a cousin.If you like I can give you what I have from Robert Martin to my generation (or did I say that before).

I have one picture of Robert & LuAnne, and a picture of their headstone. Do you have pictures of any of the other Martins? I have a couple of albums on two of my other family line with pictures and obits., they've turned out to be rather interesting.Bobbie

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From: "dsarena" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Kinnamon Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:18:02 -0600

Thank you so much for the information. I was very excited. I come in on the Stinson line or my husband does, but always glad to find part of the past. Wish the Stinson's were as easy. There is a book out there, but to no avail can you get one. Maybe they will reprint it. Will look on ebay. How many pages is it. Thanks for the information. Hoping I can help you some time. I do have some on the Kinnamon line if I can help fill in the gaps let me know.

Thanks again Linda Stinson

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From: KMAC358@ |Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:54:47 EST Subject: Harriet and Harrison Family Tree To: jwgrace99@

Dear John, I just visited Aunt Rosemary and Uncle Frank and she gave me your family tree, to look at. In the Harrison line there some differences. Aunt Rosemary is my Great Aunt my father is Ronald son of Wilbur in the tree. Aunt Rosemary never noticed the mistakes. I had given her a family tree about 8 years ago with a newspaper article about Hugh. Please let me know if you have any more. You mention maromartin@ that is my mother.

I'm currently corresponding with Barbara Taylor online and have relayed the information to her also. Thanks Kathy Martin Mackey

From: KMAC358@ |Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:54:16 EST Subject: Re: Harriet and Harrison Family Tree To: jwgrace99@

Hi, I have the Basquill's back to Nicholas. Just this week I found were he turned in claims to the government for losses during Morgan's Raids. They turned him down because it was for liquor and tobacco at his bar room. You haven't traced the Wagner's or Davises have you. I can't seem to fit Otto. In all the birth records and censuses there isn't a Albert MArtin maybe Albert Smith was adopted ? . Where did you get this? I have Harriet's family tree back through 1550 per LDS and Family Tree Maker. There are MArtin's two generation's back I looking for a Harrison down there in Virginia. I can send it if you want it. Harry and Jenny are Smiths not Martins through Lucinda's first marriage. Aunt Rosemary says she was a Smith married a Smith and married Bradley then Hugh Martin. That is why such a big selection of names in 1900 census. Harry's buried next to my Grandpa Wilbur and Lucinda. I can't figure out who grandchildren are with Harriet and Harrison in the censes do you have any idea once again they are Smith's. I never have found Seth or Mich Smith do you have info on them. Aunt Rosemary didn't said the only children she Lucinda had from previos marriage were Jenny and Harry. Do you have a copy of Hugh's death article from newspaper.? It mentions a lot of family info. I'll send it. I had given to Aunt Rosemary years ago. The Wilbur on your tree is out of place Wilbur is Alva son andthere is no Donald it's Ronald and there are no girls in my father's family. Wilbur is my grandpa. I'll get back with you on my way to the Knights of Cols for St Patrick's Day Dinner. Let me know if you need any or if you have . Kathy

From: KMAC358@ | Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 06:54:49 EST Subject: Re: Basquill To: jwgrace99@

Laura and Frank N are in the wrong line they are children of Miles. Thanks it is the same I have. Thanks.

From: KMAC358@ |Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:52:56 EST Subject: Re: Harriet and Harrison Family Tree To: jwgrace99@

Uncle Tom's twin was named Jackie he's buried over top of Lucinda's grave. There are no females in Wilburs line. I was the first female born so Grandma Lola pretty much spoiled me. Uncle Dick ( Richard Martin , Wilbur's brother) has a Helen could that be where you need to put her. There is no Albert so I would be interested in his facts and where he got the information. I do not back Harriet 's Tree, I have no proof it is from the Family TreeMaker and Family Search. I do not have a scanner so if you give me your address I copy and mail information . I'm mailing stuff to Barbara Taylor also. Kathy

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From: "S. Bailey" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Geo. W.Kinnamon Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:48:58 -0600

Your email said your ancestor , Geo. W., born 1794 in Md. per 1860 Platt Co. MO census or in N. C. per 1880 census (?) Did he die 1866 or 1886? Did he have a brother Levi Kinnamon who md a woman named Matilda? Levi & your Geo. were born abt. the same time.I've been trying (with no luck ) to see if Levi & Matilda Kinnamon had a son or nephew named Levi:

Levi & Matilda Kinnamon are on the ILL. & MO. state line in Pope Co. ILL. with a son John (b. abt. 1823 in N.C. & his wife Mary Ann Parker md. 1844 in TN.)Pope Co. ILL is across the state --- straight east of your Platte Co. MO.John died in Civil War--1863 age 40, so his wife Mary Ann probably remarried--they had 5 very young children:

Lusetta Emmeline 1852

Sarah Lowe 1854

Wm. D. 1856

John Spencer 1859,

India Ann 1860

Some Kinnamons were killed by Indians, in Ill. or Iowa supposedly; will let you know if I see any of your ancestors names.At this point, we're ready to just "GIVE BLOOD" for DNA - ha shirley & bill

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From: John Grace To: S. Bailey Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:33 AMSubject: Re: Nancy Mariah Kinnamon

Shirley, I have several Levi Kinnamon/Kinnaman records, but none of them are married to Emily Steele. The Kinnamon book only indexes the Kinnamon/Kinnaman entries, not the spouses, so if Levi was known by another name, he won't be easy to find. I always keep my eyes open for any Nancy Kinnamons though. I'll let you know if I find anything. My research has slowed to a crawl. Last year I was able to identify my 3rd great grandfather, George W. Kinnamon (b. Jan. 15, 1794 in Maryland per 1860 Platte Co.,Mo. census or in North Carolina per 1880 census, d. Sept. 15, 1866, buried at Farley Cemetery, Platte County, Mo), but I haven't had much luck of late. A couple of months back I subscribed to 's on-line census images, so I've spent a fair amount of time looking through them. It is nice to be able to do research from home. Sorry I haven't been much help. If you get any more names, or more info on Levi, please let me know and I'll take another look for you. Best regards, John

"S. Bailey" wrote: Hello again,I ordered Nancy's death cert. It says her parents are LEVI KINNAMAN & EMILY STEELE. Have you seen them in your research? I've also tried to get on the Randal Kinnamon website, but no luck, at seeing info. Thanks for your time & consideration. How are you doing on your research?shirley in OKC

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Subject: Nancy Mariah Kinnamon Author: John Grace Date: 20 Jan 2001 12:59 PM GMT Email:

I don't have a Nancy Mariah Kinnamon. "The Kinnamon Family in America" lists several Nancy's, but none with the married name you have. There is a Nancy who was born March 13, 1828, the daughter of John Kinnamon and Elizabeth Dyett. There is no marriage or death information listed for her, so I guess she may be a possibility (you didn't give a birth date for your Nancy Mariah). There is an unconnected Nancy Mariah Kinnaman listed, but the book says she was born in 1860. The source for this entry is listed as "National Archives, Pension Record of Levi W. Kinnaman. Widow application No. 4,624, Certificate No. 1,996". It's not really clear whether this was her given name, or her married name.There is also an unconnected Mariah Kinnerman, born about 1819 in Ohio. The source is listed as "1870 Census, Clark Co., Iowa, page 21".That's all I was able to find.

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From: "Lowell Johnston" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Britton chart Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:36:34 -0600

John: I am not the swiftest person on the computer. All my information is in Family Tree Maker. Do you know how I could send you just the Britton information? Otherwise, I am going to print out the info and send it to you snail mail. Do you have an address that I could send it to?I have a question concerning Hosey Britton 's relationship to Elizabeth Grace Britton. If Elizabeth Grace was married to Benjamin Franklin Britton, are you saying that Hosey Britton is Benjamin's father? I would question that on the basis, the name Hosea does appear in the family names, but, at least in my tree, the more familiar names are: Charles George, Noah, Franklin, Benjamin, Edward.I do have that Hosea Britton was married to Rachel Taylor. I was under the impression that Benjamin Franklin Britton was a brother in-law to Elizabeth Grace's sister, who was married to Daniel Brunk. Am I wrong in that asumption. It was in a book I was reading which mentioned that Benjamin lived next to his brother in-law Daniel Brunk. There was a Daniel Brunk married to a Grace.I can fill in quite a bit of data for you on Noah Franklin, Philander Chase and their families. I received data from various family members, so I feel quite certain it is accurate.If you know how I send the info e-mail, I will be happy to try, otherwise I will print it out and send it to you. Norma

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To: jwgrace99@ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:54:07 -0500 Subject: Thomas Nelson Fullerton and Anna Catherine Tulga From: "Judy K. McCoy" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

John, I saw your posting on the Fullerton Family Genealogy Forum. Thomas Nelson Fullerton and Anna Catherine Tulga were my paternal grandparents. I am the daughter of Frank Fullerton and Crystlee Nimmo. I have a limited amount of information concerning the Tulgas. But at the moment, I have been concentrating more on my mother's side of the family. However, I may be able to share some information with you. Let me know if you think I might be able to help.

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:06:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Thomas Nelson Fullerton and Anna Catherine Tulga From: "Judy K. McCoy" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

John, you are very welcome. I haven't seen my cousin, Carol, since I waslittle. When I was small, we used to go see Uncle Bill and AuntElizabeth, but after Uncle Bill died, Aunt Elizabeth moved to WashingtonC.H. and we rarely saw them after that. Yes Gary and Ann are my onlysiblings. Gary passed away last September. I was born in Huntington, WV,but basically raised in Ironton. The first few years we lived in SciotoCounty, at the homeplace where Dad was raised, then we moved to Ironton.I now live in Columbus. I have the same birthdate for Grandmother, but Ialways thought she was born in Ironton, but I don't have a birthcertificate for her, so you could be correct. Also, I didn't know thatthey lived at 347 South Sixth Street.. I have their marriage date listedas April 12, 1914, in Lawrence County, Ohio. Grandfather was married toHazel Davis prior to his marriage to Grandmother. But Hazel died, Ibelieve about six months after they were married, in 1912. I will have tolook that up. I believe that Grandmother and her parents and sisterslived at the Sixth Street address. I have a picture of Grandmother andher two sisters and mother and father and my father told me it was takenin front of the house they lived at on Sixth Street. I'm pretty sure thatis the address I found for them in a City Directory at the OhioHistorical Society, but again I would have to look that up to be sure. Iknow Grandmother and Grandfather lived in Sedgwick (down on Second Streetin Ironton) for a while and then I believe they moved to Green Townshipin Scioto County (just over the Lawrence County line). My father and hisbrothers and sisters, all went to school at the little school house justa little ways down the road. Grandmother died before I was born, so Ihave no memories of her, but I do remember Grandfather. Both of them, andtheir daughter Anna Catherine, are buried at Buckeye Cemetery in GreenTownship, Scioto County, Ohio. Some of the Tulgas, which you probablyalready know, are buried in the Cemetery in Ironton. Do you know anythingabout Anna Speckman Tulga. I have a biographical sketch of one ofGrandmother's brothers who owned a carriage shop in Ironton. Thebiographical sketch states that she was born in Metropolis, Illinois. Shewas married to a Saunders/Sanders and she had a son by Mr. Sanders. Well, guess that's enough for now. It's getting late here in Ohio and Ihave to go to work tomorrow. I'll try and dig out the rest of theinformation I have. Let me know if any of this information is helpful toyou. Looking forward to hearing from you. Judy McCoyColumbus, Ohio

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:24:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Tulga genealogy From: "Judy K. McCoy"

John, thanks for sending me the info on the Speckmans. It's veryinteresting. I do have Microsoft Word so I had no problem opening it. Sorry, this one is kind of long, but thought I would give you some ideaof what you're getting into here. I also have a scanner. I haven't had it very long and I'm not an expertwith it yet, but I have managed to get a few things scanned. Although,it is installed on my laptop rather than this computer. In addition to the picture I was telling you about of them in front ofthe house, I also have a picture of just the house, a picture of JohnWesley and Elizabeth Zimmerman with Raymond, a picture of my grandmotherand one of sister Amelia (these two were taken in a studio, they areposed shots). I also have a couple of my grandparents with all of their kids. I have one of Henry Sanders and his wife, Addie Littlejohn Sanders and apicture of Addie when she was young. I also have a bio on Smith S.Littlejohn, Addie's father. He was, at one time, the treasurer ofLawrence County. I know he's not an ancestor of mine, but I just likecollecting bits and pieces of information that relate to these people. I have one of grandmother sitting on the steps in front of a house (Iassume it's the same house, but I'm not sure-this one isn't very plain)and another one of my grandmother-this one looks like a professionalstudio type one, I have one of grandmother and the three girls(grandmother, Amelia and Mary sitting in the "parlour"). I also have one of my grandfather, Thomas Nelson (a studio, posed shot).I also have a souvenior something or other from my grandfather's servicein the Spanish American War. He enlisted when he was out in Omaha and itlists all the guys who was in his unit. But it is a 16x20 or so thing andway to big to scan. I have one which is three ladies and a baby which I think are some of theTulgas, but I haven't been able to identify it yet. Does your stepfatherhave any Tulga pictures or would he have seen some when he was growing upthat he might recognize these people?I can scan these for you if you would like. If you would like to havecopies of them, do you want them mailed to you on a CD, a floppy or juste-mailed to you. Also, what format should I save them in? JPEG, TIFF? Ordo you think we should just experiment with one or two first and see howit goes. I vaguely remember Raymond and I remembered his wife's name was Marie. Heused to play the organ at one of the churches in Ironton, but I don'tremember which one. Speaking of churches, my Dad had saved a picture fromthe Ironton paper about an Ironton landmark - the Immanuel MethodistChurch at Fifth and Monroe Streets. I don't know if it is still there ornot. But I was thinking if it is, wonder if they have their old records.Underneath the picture, it says "Prominent family names connected withthe church were the ... Herman Tulga, Val Zimmerman...." The paper isdated June 23, 1961. When I've been to the Library in Ironton, I don'tremember seeing any Church records, other than one little bunch from achurch in Burlington that my GGrandfather Fullerton and my Grandfatherwent to. But they were not complete records, just a few. I also have a copy of the funeral memorial card for Catherine L. Tulga(1870-1964). I'm not sure who this lady was. I think she may have beenthe mother of Margaret, Ruth and Clara, who I think were the daughters ofJohn H. Tulga, Jr. who went to Lima. I also have a copy of the obituaryof the Tulga daughter who married the Holman, I think it was Ruth. I also have a note about a John F. Tulga, b. 1851, died 1934 and Kate,his wife, b. 1848, d. 1918. I think I probably copied this down when Iwas in the cemetery. I would love to have whatever information you have on the Tulga family.As you have probably figured out, I'm the family packrat. Inherited itfrom my Dad. I have lots of little bits and pieces of information, butwhat I really need to do is sit down and put it all together and thenstart getting my documentation. I tried to get my Dad to tell me aboutthe Tulgas when he was alive, but he would rarely tell me anything. Anyway, let me know what you think. I'll wait to hear from you.

John, thank you, thank you, thank you. For both the Speckman and theTulga information. All this info makes me one to run to the nearestlibrary where I can find more info. I have a genealogy program (Generations Family Tree) that I put my infoin. I can link to my pictures once I get them all scanned in, but I'vebeen thinking about looking for another program, so I think I will waitto link my pictures until I make up my mind because I have a ton ofpictures (mostly from my Mom's side, I have a 92 year old Aunt who is agold mine when it comes to pictures. Pictures are her passion. Before Igot my scanner, I went down with my camera and took her pictures outsideand took pictures of her pictures. So I need to get all of those scannedin - but I hesitate to do that until I find a genealogy program I reallylike because if it all wouldn't transfer, I would be pretty ticked off. Ifigure it would probably work, but then maybe not. What I've been doingis creating a "Family Group Sheet" from my program and then adding thenotes, biographical sketches, etc. and then just putting them in anotebook. It's worked pretty good so far, but my notebooks keep gettingbigger and bigger. I was working on my genealogy quite a few years ago, then I sort of letit slide. But I've picked it up again in the last couple of years andreally started finding quite a bit of information, although most of ithas been on Dad's paternal line and my Mom's lines. I thought there was a Tulga house on Park Avenue that was still there.But I may be mistaken. And the house where Grandmother lived, I was toldby my Dad, was moved. I used to know where it was, but I'm not sure if Ican find it now. I'll have to look the next time I go down that way.Maybe I have a note about it somewhere. I'll have to look. I also thinkthere may still be one down in Sedgwick - or at least that's what my Dadand Mom had told me - but, if I remember right, it seems like when theywere telling me that, it didn't seem to fit with what my head wasremembering. My Dad, bless his soul, liked to remember things the way hewanted them to be, rather than the way they actually were. But then, Ifound a lot of people of his generation were like that. I'm not surprised that Marie's family knows little or nothing about theTulgas. I think they may have been a family that sort of kept tothemselves. I think a lot of the Ironton people were like that. I have acouple of cousins down there, the daughters of my Great Uncle Ed, andI've asked them about different things, but they "don't know anything."So I just keep digging. I know for a long time I thought Grandmother onlyhad the two sisters, Mary and Amelia. I finally figured out she had acouple of brothers also. That's just the way it was in Ironton. I saw a reference to a "Val Zimmerman" in Scioto County one time. I thinkit said he was a preacher. I was in a hurry and didn't copy it, but I'mpretty sure I remember where I saw it, so I'll look again and see if Ican find it. I'm not sure where the Immanual Methodist Church is. Thearticle says it is (was?) at Fifth and Monroe and was erected in 1884.The pictures shows it as a clapboard with stained glass windows, but thenyou never know, there could have been stone under the clapboard andthey've uncovered it. I used to remember all of those streets, but I'veforgotten all but the main ones now. I have an old map of Irontonsomewhere also - (I told you I inherited the pack rat syndrome from myDad, it was his, and I just can't seem to get rid of it). Maybe I cane-mail the Ironton library and see if they know if it is still there. I will try and scan my pictures for you this weekend and also make youpaper copies of the Church article and the article about Addie LittlejohnSanders' father and the bio of John Wesley and anything else I can find.I'll try and get them in the mail to you early next week. I would love to have a CD with your photos, etc. also. My mailing address is: Judy McCoy, 1308 Lancelot Road, Columbus, OH 43227-1419. Phone (614) 866-2456.

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:36:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Tulga genealogy From: "Judy K. McCoy" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Hi, John. Just finished putting mine on a CD. I will take it to worktomorrow and mail it from there since the P. O. isn't open today.Hopefully you will be able to open everything. I'll put a list inexplaining what I know about the pics. Let me know if you have anytrouble with the CD.

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:44:29 -0800 (PST) John Grace

writes: Judy, I'm just leaving to take the CD-ROM to the Post Office to put > it in the mail to you. You should get it in the next 5-7 days. > Please let me know if you have any difficulty reading it.> Talk to you later,> John

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: Tulga Genealogy

From: "Judy K. McCoy" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

John, received your CD today. Thank you. Looks like there is lots ofinteresting stuff on there. I mailed mine to you on Monday from work, soyou should be getting it in the next couple of days. I was so excited I just plopped it in to my computer and pulled upPhotoShop. Could open all of them but one. It gave me some message, whichI've forgotten now. I took a quick glance at all of them, then Iremembered you note said you had put a read me file on there. So I lookedat it also. Looks like I have lots of fun stuff to keep me busy for awhile. Will let you know if I find any new info. Hope you get as much enjoymentout of my CD as I am yours. Judy P.S. When you get here in August, give me a call. We'll see if we can gettogether if you have the time.

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:52:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Tulga/Frecka From: "Judy K. McCoy" |

John, you are quite welcome. I am glad you are enjoying them. It'swonderful to have someone to share them with. I tried several times toget my sister interested - but she just doesn't seem to be the least bitinterested. It my understanding that the photo with the four women and the man withthe beard in front of the house is my Grandmother, Anna Catherine TulgaFullerton, her two sisters, Amelia and Mary, and their parents, Anna andJohn Harmon Tulga in front of the house they lived in. I had forgotten that some of the kids had no shoes. I think I noticedthat a long time ago, but you know how it is - I've had these pictures solong, I just sort of don't notice those things, but you've opened my eyesagain - now I'll get them out again and go over them to see what I'vetucked back in the back of my mind and ignored for awhile. I work for lawyers and sometimes if it's been a particular stressful day,instead of coming straight home, I will go to the Public Library downtownbefore I come home. I just go up to the Genealogy Department and sit andread about the old days in all those books and stuff they have. I hadforgotten that Marie's last name was Frecka until you reminded me andwhen I saw those bios, I thought we needed them for the "file",especially since they seemed to fit very well. I have an old newspaperfrom Ironton that my Dad had saved that is now crumbling, but I believethere is an ad in their for Frecka Plumbing. I'll have to get that outand look at it - I think the page is in two parts - it sort of fell apartat the fold. If so, I'll tape it back together and scan it for you. I was on the Lawrence County Website earlier this week and saw a coupleof Frecka names - Mina Frecka married George Hortel (Bk. 16, p. 36) andMary Frecka married Willis Courtney (Bk. 17, p. 119). (You probablyalready have that info, but just in case.) But then it started stormingso I got off my computer because I don't want the lightning to fry all ofmy information, even though I have it backed up, I just didn't want totake the chance. Since I'm going down towards Ironton/Huntington thiscoming weekend, I was trying to make a list of things I wanted to try andlookup while I was down there. I'm going to try and stop to see my Aunt(Dad's sister) and I'm planning on taking my scanner just in case she hassome good pictures she will let me scan. I think I inherited my passionfor pictures from my Aunt on Mom's side, she has boxes and boxes ofpictures under her bed. She always tells everyone "if the house catcheson fire, grab my pictures first." Everyone else in my family, except forMom's sister, seems to just throw them away after a while - but I justkeep hoarded them. Well guess that's about it for now. I'll let you know if I find anythingnew. Good luck on your hunting at Ancestry. Judy

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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "eli mac" |Subject: Ross obit. To: jwgrace99@

Hello John, Hope things are going well. I think you might beinterested in these obit. I am going to attach them itwill take several emails. A lady told me that anotherlady age 90, had old obits. so I called her and wentover to her house and she let me take some of herbooks home and copy. I am in her third book nowlooking for family info from newspapers. Some of thereal old things were given to her years ago. She hadone on John Nelson Ross and other Ross fam. members.One on the Bill Debord getting killed and his fathercommitting suicide I told you about. You had BillDebords wife remarried to her son-in-law on some ofthe info you sent me before. Mary never did remarry.Here goes. There may be other obits on the same pagethat you don't want but I just copied pages from herbook. Some dates given and some no dates. Bette

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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:01:55 -0400 To: jwgrace99@ From: "Charles R. Weese" |Subject: Re: Query: Jackson County, OH

>John, < jwgrace99@ > has sent the following query:>Surnames: Fitzpatrick, Baker Patterson, Hartley, Rowland, Edwards, >Wildman, Spriggs, Elliott

>Query text: I have a copy of a photograph taken at Pine Ridge Sunday >School in 1912. In the photo are: Pauline Fitzpatrick Spriggs, Callie >Baker Patterson,Mattie Hartley Rowland,Mary Hartley,Clayton >Hartley,Clifton Hartley,Mary Fitzpatrick Elliott, Margaret >Fitzpatrick,Waldo Fitzpatrick,Addie Edwards, Kate Baker Wildman, Frank >Hartley,Leon Elliott, Wilson Fitzpatrick and Susie Fitzpatrick.

>

>I will email a scanned copy to any researcher who would like to have this >photo.

Sorry about the delay. I have added your info to the Jackson County Ohio USGenWeb query pages. By the way, I would like a copy of the picture. I grew up not far from that area and I am related to some of the families.

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From: "Mary Bishop" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Perkins, Vanlandingham posting Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:56:14 -0500

John, Thanks for your reply, Eleanor is the name of the daughter of Edward Perkins the way I thought to be. I have always thought this but I have not been able to prove this. I went to Fleming County this last week to try to find the answered I need for this, I have worked on this family for 5 years now and have begun to put it all together, Do you have the names of Margaret's children, I have been told she has 13 or 14 children including a set of triplets , No one seems to know the names of these children, Our family will be having a get together on the mountain where Edward and Susannah are buried on May the 18th, We are all going there to start to replace the monuments of our loved ones there. Starting with Elijah Perkins and his wife Ceclia who are my 3rd grandparents .We all chipped in and paid $815.00 for the stone. We would like to have all the descendants of the Perkins family there that we can find at the present we have found descendants 0f 7 of Elijah Perkins Children. Where are you from and what is your connection to the Perkins family? Do you know where Eleanor Perkins Vanlandingham is buried ?

The Susan Perkins I am not sure of , I have a Susan Perkins who was the daughter of Elijah Perkins but she was only 9 on the 1860 Bath County Census.In McClure's Marriages of Bath County the marriage for a James Vanlandingham & Eleanor Perkins , with bond 11 November 1836 with Edward Perkins on bond. This must have been Edward's son Edward who signed the bond as Edward SR. died in 1819, Wonder why she was not listed in Edwards will?Mary

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Reply-to: "btaylor" From: "btaylor" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:49:49 -0500

Forwarding some picture that Marilyn Nickles(marydye@) sent me, only the one had names but she wasn't sure if the rest were Crabtrees, Martins or Adams. Do you recognize any???Bobbie

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:44:39 -0700 (PDT)From: "eli mac" |Subject: Re: Ray Tabor obit & Florence RossTo: "John Grace"

Here are the obits you asked about. Aren't youinterested in the Hansford Sparks and Lula HolbrookSparks family? I have obits for some of them too.Bette

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Re: 1930 Franklin County census enumeration district map???

Author: Amy Crow Date: 30 Mar 2002 3:11 AM GMT Classification: Query In Reply to: 1930 Franklin County census enumeration district map??? by: John Grace Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message

You might want to read NARA's 1930 geographic search page (since Ohio wasn't one of the states that was Soundexed).

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To: jwgrace99@ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:52:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Tulga/Frecka From: "Judy K. McCoy" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

John, you are quite welcome. I am glad you are enjoying them. It'swonderful to have someone to share them with. I tried several times toget my sister interested - but she just doesn't seem to be the least bitinterested.

It my understanding that the photo with the four women and the man withthe beard in front of the house is my Grandmother, Anna Catherine TulgaFullerton, her two sisters, Amelia and Mary, and their parents, Anna andJohn Harmon Tulga in front of the house they lived in.

I had forgotten that some of the kids had no shoes. I think I noticedthat a long time ago, but you know how it is - I've had these pictures solong, I just sort of don't notice those things, but you've opened my eyesagain - now I'll get them out again and go over them to see what I'vetucked back in the back of my mind and ignored for awhile.

I work for lawyers and sometimes if it's been a particular stressful day,instead of coming straight home, I will go to the Public Library downtownbefore I come home. I just go up to the Genealogy Department and sit andread about the old days in all those books and stuff they have. I hadforgotten that Marie's last name was Frecka until you reminded me andwhen I saw those bios, I thought we needed them for the "file",especially since they seemed to fit very well. I have an old newspaperfrom Ironton that my Dad had saved that is now crumbling, but I believethere is an ad in their for Frecka Plumbing. I'll have to get that outand look at it - I think the page is in two parts - it sort of fell apartat the fold. If so, I'll tape it back together and scan it for you.

I was on the Lawrence County Website earlier this week and saw a coupleof Frecka names - Mina Frecka married George Hortel (Bk. 16, p. 36) andMary Frecka married Willis Courtney (Bk. 17, p. 119). (You probablyalready have that info, but just in case.) But then it started stormingso I got off my computer because I don't want the lightning to fry all ofmy information, even though I have it backed up, I just didn't want totake the chance. Since I'm going down towards Ironton/Huntington thiscoming weekend, I was trying to make a list of things I wanted to try andlookup while I was down there. I'm going to try and stop to see my Aunt(Dad's sister) and I'm planning on taking my scanner just in case she hassome good pictures she will let me scan. I think I inherited my passionfor pictures from my Aunt on Mom's side, she has boxes and boxes ofpictures under her bed. She always tells everyone "if the house catcheson fire, grab my pictures first." Everyone else in my family, except forMom's sister, seems to just throw them away after a while - but I justkeep hoarded them. Well guess that's about it for now. I'll let you know if I find anythingnew. Good luck on your hunting at Ancestry. Judy

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To: "John Grace" Subject: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:19:34 -0500 This is what I have so far on Robert Martin's family, I am going to send copies to two of my mother's cousins for them to make additions and/or corrections, I'm sending this to you now because they are very slow to answer, both have computers in their homes but don't use them.Have not included info. past my generation, I only have one cousin that has been of any help to me - I can give you my family's info. if you like.Bobbie

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Reply-to: "btaylor" From: "btaylor" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Crabtree Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 07:49:53 -0400

Hi John,Forgive me for taking so long to answer - I took vacation in Phoenix for two weeks, I tried to answer my e-mail from there but wasn't very successful, just now getting caught up. I was hoping to get to the LDS library in Mesa while I was there but my sister (fell asleep when I was there before) and my daughter (totally not interested) had better things to do!!!!!I'm sorry if my chart was confusing, I'll redo it. Robert Martin was my ggrandfather, his daughter Ella married George Crabtree, their children were: Roy, Clarence, Dorothy, Robert & Ann. As far as Darlene Crabtree, I never heard my mother mention the name but that doesn't mean that they weren't related.

Now that I'm home I hope to get back in the swing of things soon. I haven't gotten any responses on the pictures that I posted yet.

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From: RCV20@ |Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 22:39:38 EDT Subject: Re: Vanlandingham genealogy To: jwgrace99@

Hi John. I have been researching the Vanlandingham side of my family for quiet some time now. It's taken me quiet awhile to gather all the information I have. I can trace the Vanlandingham line for about ten generations into the 1640's. My second great grandfather was Daniel Vanlandingham, who as you wrote, was the son of Valentine Vanlandingham. Valentine was the son of Joshua Vanlandingham and his wife Elizabeth. You asked for my help on *any information I have on Elizabeth, but to be honest with you before I read your e-mail I only knew of her first name. I can trace Joshua's family but really do not know much about Elizabeth. I have been trying for a couple of weeks now to locate information about her. I wish I could be of more help to you, but I can offer my help with any questions you have about any Vanlandingham's. I will continue trying to locate any information on Elizabeth, and I would love to hear about any information you have about her or any Vanlandingham's. Looking forward to sharing more info,Ryan Valandingham

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From: "Jan Lopez" |To: "Mike Lopez" Subject: E-Mail Change Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 19:20:56 -0500

Hi Everyone:This is just a note to let everyone know that our e-mail addresses have changed ---

OLD: Mike - mlopez@ Jan - jslopez@

NEW: Mike - mlopez6@ Jan - jslopez@

Looking forward to hearing from everyone.

For genealogy researchers, the surnames I'm (Jan) researching are: BLACK, NEWELL, DYE, SURBER, BISHOP, ST. JOHN, RANDOLPH, STEPHENS, JAMES, WRIGHT, VERMILLION, MILLS, MOON, THORNBURG/THORNBURGH/THORNBOROUGH, THORNBROUGH, PARKER, BURTON, DALE and EVANS. The States these names have taken us through are (possibly MA), PA, MD, DE, VA, WV, NC, (possibly SC), IL, IA, TN, KY, AR, MO, OK, KS, NE, CA, OR, ID, WY and TX. Jan Lopez and Mike Lopez

From: "Jan Lopez" To: "John Grace" Subject: PIATT Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:54:30 -0600

John:I talked with my sister, Betty Black Piatt, last night, and she says thatshe has a PIATT book. She gave me a few generations back. The last 3generations of this line of Piatt's were born and raised inKansas.....Neosho, Labette and Wilson Counties. The last generation beingSharon Piatt, then my sister's husband, Warren Piatt, next was Warren'sfather, John Piatt. John was born in 1878 in Neosho Co., KS and died 1962in Wilson Co., KS. The next generation back, Jacob Piatt, was born in 1839in Indiana and died in 1914 in Neosho Co., KS. The next back, James Piatt,was born in 1814 in Ohio and died in 1891 in Neosho Co., KS. The next back,Jacob Piatt, I am waiting to hear from her as to where he was born and died.So far, we haven't seen anything from Kentucky in this Piatt line, but shehasn't made it all the way back yet either in the book. Also, I haven'tseen any of the children's names other than our direct line....a ROSS mightshow up there somewhere. The next trip to Betty's, I plan to look at thePiatt book and take some notes. Maybe I'll have a clearer picture of thefamily after that. 1 1/2 yrs ago when we were in Somerset, KY, visiting, we saw a contractor'struck with the name PIATT on it. It came as a surprise to see the name,especially with that spelling. Apparently, Piatt originally was spelledPyot and other variations. Apparently, this book that Betty has gets backto the 1500's at least in reference.TTYLJan

1880 census, Grennup Co., Ky., ED #38, image #15: John Piatt,46,farmer,debility,Oh.,Oh.Va.; Sarah,29,Va,Va,Va; Emily,13,Oh.; John,12,Oh.; Ernect,8,Oh; Josephine,6,Oh; William,2,Oh.

Jacob PIATT more ancestors on

m2. Jane THOMPSON 28 Nov 1816 in Butler Co, Ohio

m1. Esther LIVINGTON 16 Feb 1808 Center Co, Pennsylvania

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|-James A. Piatt b. 9 Jul y1814 in Butler Co, Ohio d. 1891 in Neosho Co., KS.

married Mahala Elizabeth BIGGS 9 Jun 1836 in Warren Co, Indiana b. 18 May 1817 in Ohio d. 15 Jan 1888 in Erie, Neosho, Kansas

|-Douglas PIATT b. Abt. 1855 in

|-Josiah PIATT b. 1842 in Knox Co, Illinois

|-Sarah Caroline PIATT b. 1844 in Knox Co, Illinois

|-John PIATT b. 1846 in Knox Co, Kansas

|-Mary Quivey PIATT b. 18 Jan 1840 in Warren Co, Kansas d. 1906

|-Elias Porter PIATT b. 3 Oct 1849 in Marion, Grant, Indiana d. 11 Jul 1927 in Sulpher Springs, Benton, Arkansas

|-Mahala Elizabeth PIATT b. 27 Jul 1852 in Galesburg, Knox, Il d. 7 Jan 1892 in Erie, Neosho, Ks Buried in Erie, Neosho, Ks

|-Charlotte M. PIATT b, 30 Jul 1853 in Altona, Knox, Illinois d. 11 Feb 1941 in Chanute, Neosho, Kansas

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|-James B. PIATT b. 18 Sep 1847 in Knox Co, Kansas d. 1 Mar 1917 in Shaw, Neosho, Kansas

| married Sarah A. (unk) b. Abt. 1851 in Knox Co, Kansa

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|-Jacob A. Piatt b. 5 Aug 1838 in Warren Co, Indiana d. 3 Apr 1914 in Coffeyville, Montgomery, Kansas or in Neosho Co., KS.

married Nancy M. Piatt b. Abt. 1842 in Warren Co, Indiana

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|-John Piatt b. in 1878 in Neosho Co., KS d. 1962 in Wilson Co., KS.

married (unk)

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|-Warren Piatt

married Betty Black sister to "Jan Lopez"

1) Warren Piatt and Betty Katherine Black

2) John W. Piatt and Cora Bernice Miller

3) Jacob Piatt and Nancy M. ______ Piatt

4) James Piatt and Mahala Elizabeth Biggs

5) Jacob Piatt and Esther Livingston

6) Abraham Piatt (Capt. in Rev. War) and Anabelle Andrews

7) John Piatt (John of Six Mile Run, Somerset, NJ) and Frances Van Vliet (parents of 5 patriots and soldiers in the Rev War- Jacob, Daniel, William, Abraham and John Piatt-all ranked as Capt. except for Daniel and he was a Major)

8) Jacob Piatt and Mary Hull

9) Rene Piatt and Elizabeth Sheffield

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From: VanBrinky@ |Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:00:38 EDT Subject: Re: Vanlandingham genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John,I am sorry, but someone else deleted your original message. Could you please refresh my memory as to what you e-mail me about. I am anxious to see if you have any information that will be helpful to me. I will gladly share anything I have on my family.I have quite a bit of information that I got from Leon Vanlandingham. Have you contacted him. His books were quite helpful to me. Of course I have yet to check out his information. Please keep in touch. Jeanne

From: VanBrinky@ |Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:17:31 EDT Subject: Re: Vanlandingham genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John,According to the information I received from Leon Vanlandingham, Joshua was my GGGGrandfather. I have not found any information regarding this.My Grandfather was Ab Vanlandingham, his father was Austin Vanlandingham, and I believe his father to be Valetine Vanlandingham and according to Leon, Joshua was his father.I have quite of bit of information on my family from Austin on down, but none prior to Austin other than what I have gotten from Leon. What are you interested in?Where is your side of the family from. Most of my immediate family back to Austin resided in Grahn, Kentucky.I will help you all I can. Jeanne Brinkman

Vanbrinky@ |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Jeanne Brinkman invites you to the new private Vanlandingham Family Website website! CC: Vanbrinky@ Date: 16 Sep 2002 13:28:06 -0600

Dear John,Jeanne Brinkman has invited you to Vanlandingham Family Website, a new website at , and would like you to participate!John

Maybe you can acess my family tree through here. I have a family website set up at and some of my Vanlandingham info is there wth a lot of my pictures. I thought you might like to see what I have and what you might be able to add to my info. I have a lot more information going back on the Vanlandingham's, but have not had time to upload it. Keep your password and I will let you know when I get it updated. Thanks, Jeanne Brinkman Username: JohnGrace369

Password: w7e4gj3 :

VanBrinky@ |Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:28:05 EDT Subject: Re: Vanlandingham genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John,Okay, I am going to try this again and see what happens. Let me know if you get it. Can you please send me whatever information you have on our side as well. I would like to check and see if what I have is correct. Thanks a lot. Jeanne

From: VanBrinky@ |Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:56:45 EST Subject: Re: Vanlandingham genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John,I don't know how I neglected to get Ollie Kermit's wife in there, but I have it. I also have his children. I followed you up to the point where you say that Elizabeth is Ollie's great-grandmother. His grandmother's name was Perlina Jessee and his great grandmother was Margaret MEADE on his father's side and Columbus WAUGH and Margaret JARVIS on his mother's side.As for Athel, yes she married Stince VALANDINGHAM. I knew them when I was a child/teenager. My mother always said that Stince was from another family of Valandingham's and they spelled their name without the N in VAN. Stince's son Sammy has done their family history and I will have to get in touch with him and see if there truly is a connection. I believe Stince's daddy's name was Isom.In case your interested, the children of Eva Jane Kiser and Milton Gilliam are:

Verna Gilliam

Unnamed Gilliam b. Oct. 19, 1907 (I believe this was a child who died right away)

Estill Gilliam b. Oct. 1, 1908

Nina Gilliam b. 1911

Sofa Bell Gilliam b. Feb. 23, 1912

John Milton Gilliam b. July 6, 1913

Owen Gilliam b. Feb. 13, 1915

Athel Gilliam b. Aug. 20, 1916

Irene Sibel or Sybel b. April 18, 1918

Othell Gilliam b. Jan 10, 1920

Charles Everett Gilliam b. Nov 1, 1921

Roy Gilliam, Jr., Oct. 20, 1924

Russell L. Gilliam b. Feb 26, 1928

I am in constant contact with Irene and Kerm's children. I can get other information if needed. Thanks for the good information. Jeanne

From: VanBrinky@ | Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:41:14 EDT Subject: Re: Vanlandingham photos To: jwgrace99@

John, That would be fine with me. If you just let me know which ones you want to use and I have some other ones of my great-great grandparents. I would be happy to share them. Thanks for thinking of me and mine.

Jeanne

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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:09:06 -0500 From: "Mary Ready-Gatewood" | To: "Grace, John" Subject: family stuff

Hi John,I did a little research and came up with some data for you. Of course,When I am done with the entire file, I will send a disk to you.Mary Tulga b abt 1843 OHwho married William Koster/Coster b. abt 1931 Germany/HOLLANDper 1910 Lawrence Co. Census He is listed with surname spellingCOSTER. 1910 Census shows him born in Holland, 1920 Census,in Germany.Children listed living with them in 1910 Census are Edward b. abt 1883and Emory b. abt 1887, both children b. OH. I believe there were manymore children, but probably married or moved out of the house by then.Emory COSTER is listed in the Lawrence Co. Marriage Records,1905-1914, Volume 23, Page 386, but no bride's name was on that page.So he must have been actually married between 1910-1914, as he waslistedon the 1910 Census with his parents.I think Edward is still listed on the 1920 Census with his parents, butI forgot what I did with it.Mary and William COSTER are both listed in Lawrence Co., OH. Deathindex 1920-1930. So they died sometime after the 1920 Census and bef1930.Both are buried in the Etna Furnace Cemetery in Elizabeth Twp., LawrenceCo., OH.

Mary and William's daughter, "Sophie" Sophia E. Koster b. Sept. 16, 1880OH. d. Dec. 31, 1972 Ironton, Upper Twp., Lawrence Co., OH. (Bur.Lawrence Furnace Cemetery) married David Dennin/Dinnin b. bet. 1868-1870 in OH. d bet 1920-1930 Lawrence Co., OH. Lawrence Co. MarriageRecords, Bet. June 1901-Nov. 1905, Volume 18, Page 481. Her name islisted as Sophia E. KOSTER, his as David DINNEN. They are listed onthe 1910 and 1920 Census under DINNEN.

Their Children are:

1. Alva (Son) b. abt 1902 OH2. "Susie" Susan Mae b. Dec. 21, 1904 Lawrence Co., OH. D.Jan 19, 1993 Gallipolis, Gallia Co., OH. mar. John D. Kelly. All Iknowabout him is that he died in Ironton. They had a son.3. Elroy b. Jan 28, 1908 Lawrence Co., OH, d. June 11, 1983 Ironton,(bur. Ironton Woodland Cem.) mar. Sept. 13, 1945 (prob 2nd mar.) inRaton, Colfax Co., NM to Ruby Amanda Witte (who had been marriedbefore to Frank James Wayt or Wyat). She was b. Dec. 6m 1906 inChester, Major Co., OK. d. Oct 13, 1998 Carson City, Carson City Co.,NV (Carson Convalescent Home) bur. Carson City (Lone Mountain Cemetery).Social Security Death Index says last residence was Sun Valley, LosAngeles Co., CA, but I found some of this lineage from Pam

Kellerstrass,

Kellerstrass-Pam@worldnet. I wrote to her about the family andshe never responded. Oh, well. Sorry to get off on a tangent.

4. Annie S. b. abt 1915 OH

5. Eva B. abt 1916 OH

6. Edgar b. Dec 1919 OH

7. Child-name unk.

Of the above, were married to people with the surnames KRUM, WILLIS,and CADE, but I don't know who was matched with whom. That's themystery, but more than we knew before about KOSTER/COSTER desc.Mary

: Mary Ready-Gatewood Date: 5 Jun 2002 1:12 AM GMT Surnames: Tulga, Cooley Classification: Query In Reply to: John Tulgay by: John Grace Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message

I am also researching the Tulga family. William O. Tulga married July 8, 1893 in Lawrence Co., OH. to Maggie Cooley b. abt 1874 in OH., my relative. maryjane@

Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:27:08 -0500

From: "Mary Ready-Gatewood" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Tulga genealogy

Dear John,Oh, I never wanted to write that to anyone, Just jokingly.OK, Here goes, on what I have, If you can send me your stuff onWORD or whatever, I shall put it in my familytreemaker and sendyou the formatted printout.Here is what I have so far. So many Williams, like the one who marriedMinnie Miller. And thank you for clearing up that "Crate" mystery forme.I saw him on a Census and wondered who in the world he was.William O. Tulga did marry Maggie Cooley July 8, 1893 in Lawrence Co.,OH.Maggie was born in 1874. She was the daughter of my 2nd great uncle,Thomas COOLEY, Sr. It is unknown what became of them or if they hadoffspring. I had thought that perhaps she died, as many of our womenhavefemale problems, which is why I started doing medical genealogyresearch. Iwould have to see the 1900 Census to see if she died beforehand.Which brings me to the issue of Mary E. and William C....who had Chesterin1896, just 3 years after Maggie was married to William, if indeedWilliam O. isWilliam C. I have never found a marriage certificate or issue forWilliam andMary.Now, Mary E. Smith was the wife of William C. Tulga who had Chester,Arthur,Garnet, Mary, and Kenneth. Mary was born October 26, 1879. I foundthisby accident. I discovered her in the 1910 Lawrence Co., OH. Census withWilliam C. Tulga, but by the 1920 Census, she had moved to MontgomeryCo., OH. and was without William, but listed as married and a servant inaboarding house. Chester had already married (I'll get to that). Arthurwasa mechanic in an auto works, but living with his mother.Then I found a scanned copy of a marriage certificate of a Mrs. Mary E.Tulgato a Leeland T. Orrell on January 6, 1926. 2nd marriage for each. Maryis listedas divorced. Father's name is Charles Smith, hence, Mary E. Smith. andhermother's name was Sarah Faulkner. It listed her birthday, as well. Ihad to playdetective. I didn't figure out why she divorced William, though. Maybehewas a slug, or they were never really married, but she took his namewhenthey started having children together. ???Back to Chester E.. I found a lot of interesting stuff on him. HemarriedEdna Maine. In the 1920 Lawrence Co., OH Census, She is living inthe household of her father, Edward or Beward Maine. She also has herchild (illegible name) with her, but Chester must be out preachingsomewhere.He is a Fundamentalist Baptist Preacher who wrote many articles whichare onposted on the web. He never went to college, but was awarded anhonoraryDoctorate of Divinity Degree (D.D.). He died of cancer. He and Ednabothdied in New Mexico. They had a daughter who married a man with thesurnameSEAMAN who had 6 children and live in California.The other son, Arthur Benjamin, I think he married a lady named Violet

orCatherine. They died in Florida.The last son of William C. and Mary E. was Kenneth C. I think hemarrieda woman named Ida M. and they died in Dayton.I have Henry Tulgay/Tulga/Tulgo and Matilda Strather/Strother as theparents of William C. Tulga. In the LDS records that I checked, I alsoshow a sister of William C. to be Genoa Farres Tulga, but perhaps itshould be Geneva, as LDS records are not always 100% accurate.Now back to your "Crate". I found a Crate listed in the 1920 IrontonCensus, Household of Rachel (Perry) Tulga, where her daughter "Bird"Bertha (Tulga) Yates and Bertha's children, Walter Yates and CharlotteYates are there. Also is William Maloney, Nephew. and Crate Tulgaage 46, step-son.Rachel was married to Henry Tulga. If William C. is "Crate" and the sonofMatilda, and Crate is 46 on that 1920 Census. That accounts for hiswhereabouts.Puts him born about 1874. Makes sense to me.Here's my question. In the 1880 Census lists for Ironton, Ward 5. itshowsMatilda as Head of household. Where is Henry? Did he leave her forRachel? I'm confused on that one. Also in Ward 5, is a Harmon and aFrederick.Also heads of their households. I don't have copies of those Census.Who was the Henry Tulga who married December 2, 1883 in Lawrence Co. toSarah E. Bennett?And the Henry W. Tulga b. October 5, 1894 in Ironton who married Vina orVernawho was born about 1903 and had Millard E. Tulga b. September 25, 1917d.May 11, 1989.

So many Henrys, Harmans, Fredericks, Williams, and Johns.I think one of the Harmans b. 1849 married Anna Beckman/Bechman b. 1844.They had John Wesley Tulga who married Elizabeth Zimmerman. They hadRaymond Harold who married Marie Frecka.Another Harmon b. 1875 married Catherine b. 1871. They had Margaret b.1899,Ruth b. 1900 who married a Unk. Holman, and Clara b. 1907 who marriedEdmund Mahoney. I think Ruth was a Teacher in Lima and they grew up inLima. Clara Died in Oklahoma.Stephen or Steven Tulga married September 15, 1887 to Sarah Marcum.Whose son is he?Steven H. Tulga b. 1867 married Irene Blankenship b. 1888. They hadSteven H.Jr. b. August 1, 1915 d. October 1986And another Stephen Tulga b. 1868 married Sarah L. b. 1869. They hadWilliam L.b. 1890.Mary Catherine Tulga born February 4, 1869 Lawrence Co. married LouisAlvin Riley and moved to Alabama. Whose daughter was she?Another Mary Tulga married William Koster. Whose daughter is she?I am trying to piece who belongs to whom. Those are my offerings fornow.I think I would like to get the relationships established and post thedeceasedon the web so others can make the connections we are so desperatelytryingto do so. Never do we put living members data on for safety purposes.I am a firm believer in privacy. I do share all my data with otherrelatives andhope they respect my request as to not my personal data either.Mary

From: "Mary Ready-Gatewood" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Tulga of Ohio

John,Our Maggie Cooley was a mystery to us, but as we discovered,our women were dropping like flies from uterine cancer or dyingin childbirth. We believe it's what became of her. I live in TX.now, but if I ever get home to OH, I intend to check the deathrecords in Lawrence and Scioto Co., which is where Maggie'sparent's lived. One of her sister's moved to Jackson Co. and theremainder of the Cooleys migrated upward and easterly, but stayedin OH.William O. could very well be the William C. "Crate" who marriedMary E. Smith. We could almost bet money on it. But I am not abetting woman.I appreciate your reply. I am sure you are more knowledgeable thanI am about Tulgas. I just gleaned things from here and thereand try to piece them together. I am retired, so have time to "play"with the stuff. I understand that other people are still working orhave other commitments.My husband and I keep a calendar now to keep up with our schedule.It makes us wonder how we had time to work. He has been retiredfor 3 years and me 2. Between us, we worked over 70 years forour company. Way too long.

No rush on getting back, next week, next month. Whenever is convenientfor you. Thanks for keeping in touch.Mary

Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:50:35 -0500 From: "Mary Ready-Gatewood" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Tulga

John,The program is not set up to make a piece meal chart, soit is not in chart form yet, as I do not have parentage establishedfor the those heads of households. Only their children from thevarious Census and marriage records. That was the informationI have already sent to you, haphazardly. Pretty much everything Iknow is what I sent. That's where I need your help.If I knew the parentage of the various Fredericks, Henrys, Stephens,Williams, Johns, Etc., I will put that in my Family Tree Maker Programand format it, and send you a copy. All I have now, are detached sheetsof records and hand written data. I will even mail a disk toyou. I do that, free of charge, for relatives, as a courtesy. Othershavedone it for me, as well.I have to interject this story:A cousin and I have a saying, "You give, you get". It is so true. Itgoesalong the lines of having a photo, letter, data, memorabilia, orsomethingthat belonged to an ancestor, not necessarily of your direct line, butin thefamily. If you happen to come into contact with a direct descendant ofthatancestor, you give them your keepsake, photo, or whatever, even thoughyouhate to part with it. Out of the clear blue, and not very longafterward,someone contacts you and has something more memorable that belonged toyour loved one or a piece of information that you had searched for andhadno hope for an answer. Believe me. It has happened to me and my cousinover and over again.She is my 2nd cousin. We had been out of touch for over 30 years.She remarried and I had no idea what her new name was, where shelived or what became of her. Her parents moved away years ago andthere was no hope in finding her. Every relative I knew of had lostcontact with her. 2 weeks after my mother passed away, I posted aquery on the COOLEY website and asked if anyone knew of her withher maiden name and explained the story I just told above. She wroteme that evening. Can you imagine? After 30 years? She said, "Youfound me."That's not the end of the story and sorry it is taking up so much ofyourtime. We collaborated our efforts together and found out about MaggieCooley. Then I found the marriage issue record for the Tulga. That'swhat got me into your family. Well, I went to see my cousin recently inCalifornia. She had a letter, written by my grandmother, her greataunt,naming all of our ancestors, which I never knew about. 2 weeks later,out of the blue, another relative, sent her a photo of letters andmedalsof a great uncle (on her dad's side, not related to me) of hers who waskilled in the Civil War. Now how is that for payback? End of story.The part in the Family Tree Maker is my Maggie COOLEY and WilliamO. Tulga data. I am sorry if I misled you. I am happy to share anydatarelative to the COOLEY family that I have, if you are interested inthat.Maggie was born 1874 in OH.Maggie's parents were Thomas COOLEY, Sr. b. May 1837 VA.(the part that is now WV.) probably Cabell Co., as that's wherehis older brother was born and Mary UNKNOWN b. October 1838IRELAND. In the 1880 Census, they lived in Scioto Co., OH.Not sure in 1890, but by the 1900, they were in Upper Twp.,Lawrence Co., OH.I need to have someone check the actual Lawrence Co. or SciotoCo., OH. birth and death records for Maggie and a possible birthand death of a child, in the event that Chester E. Tulga could beher biological son (just a thought, but I highly doubt it).And if for some reason you don't hear from me, my computer is gettingready to crash. The hard drive has been making some grinding soundsso I have been printing every letter and making a backup disk for allof my family tree data. The other reason is that I have been in poorhealth for several years, but recently put on a new medication which hashelped me tremendously. If more than 2 weeks would go by withouta reply, you could contact me, via my husband at raborn@He has a different computer in another room and only in emergency.He hates getting my mail, if you know what I mean.We are going out of town tomorrow, but shall return by Monday. Ifyou could get the parents of those people to me sometime this week,I'll format and send.Mary

Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:09:06 -0500 From: "Mary Ready-Gatewood" |To: "Grace, John" Subject: family stuff

Hi John,

I did a little research and came up with some data for you. Of course,When I am done with the entire file, I will send a disk to you.

Mary Tulga b abt 1843 OHwho married William Koster/Coster b. abt 1931 Germany/HOLLANDper 1910 Lawrence Co. Census He is listed with surname spellingCOSTER. 1910 Census shows him born in Holland, 1920 Census,in Germany.

Children listed living with them in 1910 Census are Edward b. abt 1883and Emory b. abt 1887, both children b. OH. I believe there were manymore children, but probably married or moved out of the house by then.

Emory COSTER is listed in the Lawrence Co. Marriage Records,1905-1914, Volume 23, Page 386, but no bride's name was on that page.So he must have been actually married between 1910-1914, as he waslistedon the 1910 Census with his parents.

I think Edward is still listed on the 1920 Census with his parents, butI forgot what I did with it.

Mary and William COSTER are both listed in Lawrence Co., OH. Deathindex 1920-1930. So they died sometime after the 1920 Census and bef1930.

Both are buried in the Etna Furnace Cemetery in Elizabeth Twp., LawrenceCo., OH.

Mary and William's daughter, "Sophie" Sophia E. Koster b. Sept. 16, 1880

OH. d. Dec. 31, 1972 Ironton, Upper Twp., Lawrence Co., OH. (Bur.Lawrence Furnace Cemetery) married David Dennin/Dinnin b. bet. 1868-1870 in OH. d bet 1920-1930 Lawrence Co., OH. Lawrence Co. MarriageRecords, Bet. June 1901-Nov. 1905, Volume 18, Page 481. Her name islisted as Sophia E. KOSTER, his as David DINNEN. They are listed onthe 1910 and 1920 Census under DINNEN.

Their Children are:

1. Alva (Son) b. abt 1902 OH

2. "Susie" Susan Mae b. Dec. 21, 1904 Lawrence Co., OH. D.Jan 19, 1993 Gallipolis, Gallia Co., OH. mar. John D. Kelly. All Iknowabout him is that he died in Ironton. They had a son.3. Elroy b. Jan 28, 1908 Lawrence Co., OH, d. June 11, 1983 Ironton,(bur. Ironton Woodland Cem.) mar. Sept. 13, 1945 (prob 2nd mar.) inRaton, Colfax Co., NM to Ruby Amanda Witte (who had been marriedbefore to Frank James Wayt or Wyat). She was b. Dec. 6m 1906 inChester, Major Co., OK. d. Oct 13, 1998 Carson City, Carson City Co.,NV (Carson Convalescent Home) bur. Carson City (Lone Mountain Cemetery).

Social Security Death Index says last residence was Sun Valley, LosAngeles Co., CA, but I found some of this lineage from Pam Kellerstrass,

Kellerstrass-Pam@worldnet. I wrote to her about the family and

she never responded. Oh, well. Sorry to get off on a tangent.

4. Annie S. b. abt 1915 OH

5. Eva B. abt 1916 OH

6. Edgar b. Dec 1919 OH

7. Child-name unk.

Of the above, were married to people with the surnames KRUM, WILLIS,and CADE, but I don't know who was matched with whom. That's themystery, but more than we knew before about KOSTER/COSTER desc.

Mary

Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 19:33:01 -0500 From: "Mary Ready-Gatewood" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Tulga

John,No, I never received anything except a few lines from you. Noattachment at all. I was looking forward to inputting Tulga datainto my program.This is just a funny for you. My maiden name was Tylka almost

pronounced like Tulga. Same amount of letters, substituting theY for U and K for G.

My father's people came from Galacia, what is now south centralPoland and settled in southern Ohio in the early 1900's. That's howmy father met my mother. Her people were already down there (insouthern Ohio).

My mother's parents moved from county to county, as my grandpawas a coal miner and went where the work was. They ended up inBelmont Co. My father was employed for that county as a constructionworker on the roads and mother worked in the courthouse as therecreationdirector.And here I am. And you. Now we shall do genealogy and help eachother. I think it's great! Let's put this family together.Mary

"Mary Ready-Gatewood" |To: "Grace, John" Subject: tulga family Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:47:47 -0500

John Grace,You probably thought I had forgotten about you and the Tulga family. The fact is, my old computer did crash and I lost most of my files. For the last month, I have been trying to get my scraps and what nots into the new machine. It has been a challenge, to say the least. I am missing a few things, but still working on others. I'll stay in touch, from time to time, with my progress. Also, husband has me working on a few house projects for him. Thanks for your patience.Mary Ready-Gatewood

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From: Abrit91060@ |Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:40:51 EDT Subject: Re: Britton genealogy To: jwgrace99@

John, thank you so much for responding! I had some of that information but you filled in some holes. I am only a few hours from Winchester VA where many of them lived, and I spent a very interesting weekend down there a few months back. I didn't have enough time in the library and none at all in the courthouse so I wasn't able to find much in the way of paperwork to fill in holes, but I did see a lot of the countryside and it is gorgeous but looks like it's not the easiest country to homestead in, so I'm not surprised they moved west. It's VERY hilly. I imagine it must have been a very difficult place to live in, especially given the fact that it would have been much more forested back then than it is now.I had a hard drive failure fairly recently. I do have good backups but unfortunately it would appear that I restored the wrong backup, because the database that I restored has more holes in it than I remember.... so here's what I'll do for you:I'll try and locate a better backup (I have a whole bunch of backups, as I back up every night) and when I find the best one, I'll send you my family tree. I have the most recent version of PAF which I am very happy with and generates very nice, easy to read reports and also does a great job with my sources.I'm actually planning on spending tomorrow (after work) doing this, so I should have something for you Thursday night. My lineage is as follows:Benjamin Britton Sr., - Benjamin Britton Jr. - Lorenzo Dow Britton - Oscar Benjamin Britton - Howard Benjamin Britton (my father) - me. All of the men in my father's direct line were Methodist preachers except my father, who converted to Catholicism when he married my mom. My grandmother, Oscar Benjamin's wife Nellie (Little) Britton, initially had some major reservations about my parents' marriage, for that reason, but my mom won her over!Thanks!Andrea Britton

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To: jwgrace99@ Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 19:49:56 -0700 Subject: Mary Elizabeth Counts. From: ashleeigh@ |

Hello,You responded to my query about her. Thank you. This is the right MaryCounts who married William Martin Deal.Would you be willing to e-mail me the other information you havereguarding her family and what you have on the deals? I appreciate yourtime very much.THank you,

Sarah DealHi John,According to my FIL this is the right Mary elizabet Counts. he has herbirth date and parents, no other information. Dad said she was severalyears younger than William. According to him, Grandpa deal (son ofWilliam and Mary) Had her birthdate and parents, but no other informationeither. I was just thrilled to find out that someone had her in theirrecords. I have a large portion of the Deal records that come from herto present. Dad is so excited that we have found a link.Thank you so much. Sarah

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:10:35 -0700 Subject: Re: Mary Elizabeth Counts. From: ashleeigh@ |

Dear John,No you didn't sent the additional counts information. I have not sentyou any of mine because I don't have much, I will get it from mom anddad and send you what we have.Thank you so much,Sarah

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From: "Melissa Miller" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Hale - Ross genealogy Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:51:29 -0400

John:I don't know Billy Ross but he lives a short distance from me. I do have his dad's birth date and date of death and who he married but nothing on his children. James and Myrtle's son Wade did have children because I had been to their house in Greenup County when I was a kid but I don't have any information on his children. My sister-in-law Sue was here last week and she had met one of Wade's sons....the guy lived in California and was a lawyer.....I didn't ask her his name. I'll try to remember and ask her about Wade's children. Art and Henrietta's children that I know for sure are: (1) George who was married to Virginia Ramey and had five children. He is married again but I don't know her. (2) Janet Ruth born Dec. 14, 1933 Scioto County, Ohio and died April 28, 1939 Portsmouth, Scioto County, Ohio. (3) Donna Kay, I can't remember too much about her right now but she graduated in 1959 from Beaver High School because she graduated with my sister. I believe that she lives in Arizona. Art Hale died in his mid fifties and I knew Henrietta passed away just a few years ago. Martha was married once but not when I knew her. She didn't have children. She lived with her Mother most of her life.Nellie Ross Nichols had three girls that we know of. The reason I say that is my sister-in-law Sue said that she may have had a son that was born right before she died that her mother or someone adopted out. I'll tell you more about that if they ever get it figured out for sure. Sue's mother was Betty......she married William Sanford Bryant. Nellie also had a daughter Wilma, right now I can't recall her husbands name but I'm thinking that it was Jack Bumgardner. Nellie also had a daughter Jack who is still alive and lives here in Ohio. I don't know anything about Kermit Nichols.....I wish I did.....it sounds interesting. He took his three girls for a short time but the stepmother didn't want them so they were put in a childrens home for awhile.......James and Nannie Myrtle raised them for awhile too. I don't know that I would be of any help to you but when you start to come to Jackson you are welcome to call us and my husband David and I can at least show you where to find people if you want.

It was good to hear from you again.Melissa MillerJackson County, Ohio

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From: "j.lane9" |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Earl Yerian Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:48:13 -0700

John, My apologies. I answered you too quickly without looking carefully enough. I do have your man in my database. He is Earl BertramYerian, born Sept 18, 1893, in Jackson Co, Ohio, died April, 1968, same county, and buried in Evergreen Cemetery, at Leo, Coal Township. He married Sept 27, 1912, to Nellie Mae Hayth, born Dec 27, 1891, died June 22, 1960, buried same place. Her parents were George William Hayth and Effie Jane Jenkins. I would still like to trade data with you. Carl Bennett

From: "j.lane9" | Block AddressTo: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Earl Yerian Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:51:15 -0700

John,I am sure I could give you more Yerian information than you would ever want. I'll begin with Earl's parents:His father was John Wesley Yerian, born June 20, 1861, in Jackson County, died May 19, 1920, same county, buried same cemetery as Earl. He married Sep 10, 1881, Jackson County, to Emma Frances Wyatt, born Apr 12, 1864, Jackson County, died Oct 17, 1927, Jackson County, buried same cemetery.If you really want lots of data, better send me your postal address, as my family sheets don't transmit other than by scanning, which is not practical. My address is 346 El Dorado Drive, Escondido, CA 92025.Carl

From: "j.lane9" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Earl Yerian Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:03:09 -0700

John,I meant to include that John Wesley Yerian was the son of AllenYerian 1825-1900, who was the son of Jacob Yerian 1798-1845, mentioned in my previous letter.Carl

From: "j.lane9" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Earl Yerian Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:12:14 -0700

John,Sorry, I pulled dates for the wrong Jacob in my first letter. The second letter was correct: 1798-1845. Hopefully the family sheets will have it all straight.Carl

From: "j.lane9" | To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Earl Yerian Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:57:37 -0700

John,I appreciate your offer of re-imbursement, but that isn't necessary. You can repay me by helping me improve my database on this line.

Although I have been to Ohio several times, I don't believe I have ever been in Jackson County. My Yerian/Yearian ancestors are more associated with the areas of Sharon in Noble County, and Bellville in Richland County. My g-g-grandfather, George Yearian 1785-1867married Elizabeth Bell, whose father, Robert Bell, founded Bellville in 1814.The Jackson County branch are from Jacob Yerian 1812-1895, and his brother, Daniel Yerian 1806-1864. These were half-brothers of my George 1785-1867.The father of these brothers, Frederick Yerian 1762-1840, had a grist mill in what is now Noble County, then Morgan County. He was a Revolutionary War veteran of Westmoreland County, PA. It is said he stepped on a rusty nail, got gangrene, and died from the effects of amputation. I warned you I could tell you more than you wanted to know.Frederick's father was George Yerian 1733-1804. He was a large landholder and a supervisor of the poor when he lived the later part of his life in Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland County, PA. He had been born near Oley, PA.George's father was the immigrant ancestor of all the Yerian/Yarian/Yearian/Yaryan/Yerion branches. His name was Mathias, and we believe his last name in Germany was spelled Irion. He arrived in Phildelphia aboard the ship Pleasant from Rotterdam in Oct of 1732. He was illiterate and did not know how to spell his own name. He signed with his mark "MI". He was unable to pay for his passage, so he was sold into indentured servitude to a farmer of Oley, PA, named David Kaufman. He had to serve for 3 years and 9 months, and by the terms of the indenture received a horse, saddle and 2 suits of clothes when his service was completed. By the 1740's he had a farm of his own in what is now Linn Township, Lehigh County, PA. He left a most interesting will, which I am attaching. His farm was inherited by George, who sold it in the 1770's and removed to Westmoreland County.So that is the gist of Yerian history in America. You will find many details in the family sheets I will mail to you, along with many blanks, and no doubt some errors, which you may be able to help me with.Carl

From: "j.lane9" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Earl Yerian Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:19:18 -0700

John,Are you are referring to the descendant lists I sent, or the family sheets? You may not have received the family sheets yet.Carl

"j.lane9" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Earl Yerian Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:43:26 -0700

John,I do subscribe. Thanks for the image number.I hope the descendant lists will serve as a sort of index to all the family sheets. My program is supposed to number all the pages and print an index, but that function is down at the moment.I was mistaken when I said I didn't have any grandchildren of Bertram. I thought I was running the lists down as far as I could, but after I mailed them I realized there was more. Anyway, on the family sheets wherever you see under a child's name that he/she had sons or daughters, that means I can generate one or more further family sheets down that line. Just request the ones you are interested in.I am looking foreward to your helping me fill in the blanks when you have the time for it. You'll note that I received lots of data from Ed and Grace Yerian of London, Ohio. I haven't heard from them for years, but they may still be around.Carl

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:00:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kristal Menday" |Subject: re: genforum mcleese/zornes To: jwgrace99@

Hello, I saw your post on GenForum regarding Rachel McCleese and Andrew Zornes. I'm wondering if you know any more information about Daniels wife, Mary? I think you said her name was Mary Lotus Morningstar.

I am eager to hear from you, and thank you, Kristal menday kmemday@

Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:05:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kristal Menday" |Subject: re: genforum mcleese/zornes To: "John Grace"

Hello, thank you for your quick response. Rachel McCleese is my GGGGG Grandmother. The information that I've gathered about her is that she was born 1794 in Fleming Kentucky. She married Andrew Zornes Jr. July 18 1815 in Fleming County Kentucky. Andrew was born 1797 in Monongalia Virginia.and died May 1 1857 in Carter County Kentucky. His father was Andrew Zornes Sr. from Massenbach Germany. and his mother was Rebecca Lewellin (spelling?) born in loudon County Virginia. I know of 4 children Andrew and Rachel had: Rebecca, Emma Elizabeth, Martin, and Rachel. Rachel married a Jackson Gilbert. Martin married Lucinda Horsley, Emma married Thomas Jefferson Campbell, and Rebecca married John Keaton Jr. I am interested in the Keaton side of this line also, if you have a connection there possibly? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: From: Louie.Whitley@ |To: jwgrace99@ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:35:29 -0400

Thanks for responding to my post on 7-25-02. I used my alternate emailaddress, with the name Mike, so I wouldn't have to use my work address. I am a descendant of both James and Mary. I was shocked with the infoyou gave about James and his father. I would really appreciate anyinformation you have on the Offills, including mary's picture or any other pictures/information that you may have. Also, if you should ever come accross any more info on Mary Scott's side I would appreciate it if you would share it with me too.Are you related to them? If so, which person do you descend from?I look forward hearing from you.

Subject: Re: Offill photos From: Louie.Whitley@ |To: "John Grace" Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:55:49 -0400

John,I did receive the pictures and want to thank you for them. I have been meaning to send you an e-mail, but I have been busy lately. In your e-mail that you sent which contained the pictures, you said you could mail some copies of some letters to me. here is my mail address: Louie Whitley P.O box 1231 Powder Springs, Ga. 30127

In one of your responses to my post, you said that you thought that Mary's husband shot his father on the Ohio river. Do you have any further information about the incident and what happened to her husband after the incident?

Thanks again,Louie

Subject: From: Louie.Whitley@ |To: jwgrace99@ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:30:54 -0400

John,Thank you so much for sending those letters from my ancestors. I told my mother about them and she is really looking forward to reading them. If I obtain any further information about this line, I will send you an e-mail. I would like to make a request. My e-mail program at work is not a very good one and does not allow us to send picture attatchments to other e-mail addresses. I had wanted to sent the pictures of both Mary and Teresa to another family member, but was not able to do so. To make matters worse, the county is fixing to scrap this e-mail program due to its limitations and the inability to perform certain functions.When they change out this program, I will loose the pictures that I have saved. I was wondering if it would be possible, at your convenience, to send me the pictures agian to the e-mail address that was used when I posted the message on the genealogy web site. The email address is ( mikesmith279@ ). Once again thank you.Louie

From: Louie.Whitley@ |To: jwgrace99@ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:00:55 -0400

John, I received your e-mail with the pictures and I am sorry for not writing to you sooner.I have been in school and there has been more work thatn I originally anticipated.I want to thank you for both the pictures and the letters. My mother really enjoyed seeing her great grandmother's picture. If you evver come acrossed any more info., I would be greatful for any updates.Once again thanks.Louie

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From: "Gary Duke" |To: jwgrace99@ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:03:11 EST Subject: Olive Meyers Ross

John,We were finally able to get some information on Olive Meyers Ross' children. Two of them made it to this year's Shook reunion. Although we weren't able to make it, Jerry Shook sent us the address/email for them.

Regards,Gary

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Hi Gary:Sorry you wasn't able to make it to the reunion today.We had some members of the Olive Ross family theretwo daughters.Corinne Barnhart, and Julia Dickens.Corinne's address is 1709 center street, Carleton,Michigan 48117.Julia's E Mail is jdickens@marshall.eduThe turn out was small, it is extremely Hot I think the heat scared them awayit is 94 at the moment.Jerry Shook

From: "Gary Duke" |To: "John Grace" Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:51:29 EST Subject: Re: Olive Meyers Ross

John,Well, I tried the email address for Julia and it came back. I'll try the snail mail for Corinne.Jerry's linage is as follows:

1 Zebedee Wilson Shook b: Jul 3, 1847 in Wheeling, Marshall Co, WV d: Feb 17, 1915 in Coalton, Jackson Co, OH Burial: Sell Cem, Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH

.. +Salome Gabbert b: May 12, 1846 in Taylor Co, WV m: Sep 7, 1865 in Parkersburg, Wood Co, WV d: Feb 15, 1923 in Coalton, Jackson Co, OH Burial: Sell Cem, Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH

Father: Jacob Gabbert Mother: Salome Funkhouser

...... 2 George Washington Shook b: Dec 28, 1883 in Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH d: Sep 7, 1968 in Jackson, OH Burial: Coalton Cem, Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH

.......... +Emma J. Hollberg b: Dec 9, 1885 in Washington Twp, Jackson Co, OH m: Sep 23, 1905 d: Apr 17, 1968 in Holzer Hospital, Gallipolis, OH Burial: Coalton Cem, Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH Father: William Hollberg Mother: Nancy Wood

............... 3 Otis William Shook b: Jul 31, 1914 in Coalton, Jackson Co, OH d: Mar 8, 1987 in Wellston, Jackson Co, OH Burial: Coalton Cem, Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH

`````````````................... +Dessa Leona Waulk b: Dec 15, 1913 m: Sep 20, 1937 in Vanceburg, KY d: Mar 28, 1994 Burial: Coalton Cem, Coal Twp, Jackson Co, OH

........................ 4 Gerald "Jerry" Shook b: Jul 19, 1938 in Ragsville Rd, Wellston, Jackson Co, OH

So his grandfather was a brother to Olive's mother, Cora Belle. I guess that makes them 1st cousins, once removed.Gosh, no one ever mentioned a second husband for Olive, so I have no idea.I am not sure about the township. Coalton is in Coal township, so that may be a place to start. You might also try Washington, Lick and Milton Twps.Let me know if you want any more on the Shooks.GaryGary

From: "Gary Duke" |To: "John Grace" Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:20:33 EST Subject: Re: Olive Meyers Ross

It is my fault, then. I meant that she was a descendant of the Shooks. Her mother, Cora Belle Shook, married Charles "Bloom" Meyers, so she was Olive Meyers Ross.Attached is what I have on the family from Cora Belle down. Gary

From: "Gary Duke" | To: jwgrace99@ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:55:07 EST Subject: Olive Ross

John,Well another year has gone by and I am still trying to get the information on Olive Ross' descendants. Hopefully, I have made a little more progress. We went to the Shook reunion this year and two of her daughters were there. We got a better email address for Julia - jdickens99@ (I found it interesting that you both have a "99" in your email addresses) I mentioned that you were trying to contact someone on the Ross side.

Also, we asked her to fill out some family group sheets for us which she agreed to do. If/when I get that, I'll pass it along. BTW, when you get a chance, can you send me your line and I will add it

in for her. Gary

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Thank you for your interest in . Here are the user name and password that you requested.

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From: "day" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Circle genealogy Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:59:30 -0500

JohnThank you for contacting me --- yes, I am still doing genealogy --- I have not worked on the Circle / Kemp line for some time -- but I am very interested in sharing info with you on it. I know virtually nothing about the Kemps. ( Oh, how I wish I did!-- have you found anything on them ) Let me know what you are interested in and I will send it to you --- I am using FTM version 8 --- but have ordered a new program through Gencircles that I am supposed to ( yes, I know supposed to --) be able to just merge my info into. It is called Family tree Legends. I pre-ordered the release date is 9-30 -02. But, it is supposed to be a compatable program to what I have --just with more available space and goodies. We'll see! I can make a family report --where you can just compare to yours and add what you want --but you have to type it all in . Or I can send a gedcom containing the Circle/Kemps and you can import into your program ---- all I ask in return is comperable data exchange and if you can correct or add to anything that I have that you would do so.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon Linda Crockett York day@

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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:57:31 -0400 From: "Judith Knight" |To: jwgrace99@, jdiluvio@, vikru@ Subject: Mary Ann Ross

Hi--my name is Judy Knight and I am doing some research for a friendwithout a computer; he is the gggrandson of Mary Ann Ross and RobertWilburn [of OH]. Bob will not be getting a computer but he is a greatresearcher and would like to share info the old fashioned way if you allstill do snailmail.If you are interested in communicating with him I would be glad to letgive him your address and vice versa.Thanks,judy knight

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:40:34 -0400 From: "Judith Knight" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Mary Ann Ross

John--he isBob Petricek Route 2, Box 440 McLoud, OK 74851 I think you will be pleased with the info he has; it is not my line nordo I know much about it but Mary Ellen [his wife] was my college roomieand she asked me to check the 1880 census for them. They were in Twin TWP, Ross County OH FHL Film 1255063 National Archives Film T9-1063 page 383B

Robert WILBUN [they messed up the transcription]Farm Laborer, male, married, white, 63 b in VA parents both born in VA Mary A. Wilbunkeeping house, wife, female, white 43 born in KY parents both born in KY

Moses Wilbunfarm laborer son, male, single, white, 21, born in KY parents born in VA/KY Green Wilbun farm laborer, son, male, single, white 18, born in KY Robert Wilbunat home, son, male, single, white, 13, born in OH

I could not find much on the Rosses in KY--I piddled around a little onusgenweb and . Did find Ross names but did not locateanything about Mary Ann. People give her father as GreenBerry/Greenberry Ross--did not find a verification of this.Thanks for answering!judy

"Judith Knight" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Mary Ann Ross Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 08:44:09 -0400

John--spoke with Mary Ellen [Mrs. Bob] on Thursday--had told them when I sent them the info I had that I had given him your address. Was I going to give you anything else? Between the time we talked and last weekend I had major computer problems I am still dealing with and have not even looked at my old inbox in Netscape. It is a long story so won't bore you with it--please remind me if I am remiss! judy

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From: John Grace To: Judith Knight Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: Re: Mary Ann Ross

I mailed an envelop of charts and a note to Bob yesterday. I'm very anxious to hear from him. Thanks for the Wilburn names. I wasn't able to place any of them on my chart, but I will keep them at hand for future reference.

Best regards, John

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From: "MARK DANIELSON" |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Offill family Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:08:56 -0700

I found a message you posted in May of 2001, concerning the family of William Offill and Mary Rucker. You indicated that you had previous generations of the Offill family on your charts. I was wondering if you could point me to some documentation for that. I haven't yet found wills, probates, letters, Bibles or any other primary sources to provide the children of the above marriage, although I've seen children listed several times.

Thanks for your help.Mark Danielson, Bellingham, WA

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To: jwgrace99@ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:08:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Denton/Ross From: "jackie m halterman" |

This is the same family. My husband is the 3rd great grandson of JacobRoss who was born in Kentucky Sept 8,1792. That makes my husband thegreat grandson of Wesley D's daughter Florence who married Elsworth

Halterman (divorced) remarried to Robert Ballenger.The Fletcher you speak about is,according to census reports, actually John Fletcher

I gathered the vast amount of my information from the genealogy room at the museum in Winchester,Indiana this past summer

If you sent an address I will be more than happy to send a hard copy of all that I have. But only if you promise to let me know of anything you have that would enhance my information.

My address is Jackie Halterman 222 Annison Dr Commerce MI 48382 phone 248-363-9098 At least we, at this point, know that there is some connection.Jackie

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:24:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Denton/Ross From: "jackie m halterman" |

I have some info you don't have: Abraham IV married Eunice Brown (dates match) you had no surname.

This is just starters - I am making copies of all the information fromWinchester and will put in thesnail mail tomorrow.My computer is old and I have not learned how to add attachments. Sobear with me - I am getting a new computer with some additional memoryand speed. and also a new printer. I like to spend money as my husbandsays. Sure can sympathize with obsession - I retired in January 2002 and havedone none of the things that need doing (25 years of paper collecting) just messing with this. I also don't spend all my time on one family -but am trying to gather a lot about all.Look for the mail and let me know if I helped you any.Jackie

jwgrace99@ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:51:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Denton/Ross From: "Jackie M Halterman" |

JohnI can answer a couple of the questions at this time. The other ones Iwill have to look up. I am in the process of upgrading my computer andgenealogy program, so it will be a couple of weeks before I canadd to my data.

Question #1 - I am sure that Wesley D was married twice but have notfound all the documentation -some of my paperwork is buried - I am tryingto sort some each day. I did a 1900 census and found Wesley and Mary living in White River Township, Randolph County Indiana. They also hadliving with them at the time -Ollie R Ross - born Feb 1893 - Child ofFlorence May Ross (I think born out of wedlock). Florence later marriedElsworth Halterman(May 1893) and Ollie R Ross was known as a Ross untilhe married under the name of Halterman. Ollie (Oliver) R Halterman ismy husbands grandfather. We don't know if Halterman was the biologicalfather or not and we probably will never know as I can't find anything onElsworth except a divorce from Florence in 1897. I will go back to thecensus of 1860 and see what can be determined.

Question #2 - Justin Michael Bovee and Kristin Marie Bovee are thechildren of Cynthia - makes them the stepchildren of Kraig Halterman. Thebiological father is Charles Bovee

Question #3 - I will have to look that one up and see what else I havethat I can read legibly.

Question #4 - I am sure that the Morton Ross -(Oliver Perry Morton Ross)-the son of Wesley D Ross. The lady in Indiana was positive of that fact.She is just great - will answer questions by mail as long as you are notin a hurry-she gets a lot of requests and answers as fast as she can.My husband insisted that I answer you immediately- now that it is hisfamily we are getting information about he is very interested.By the way, if you have a fax number, I will fax some more information asI come across it It is almost 6PM here and already getting chilly - I have family in LosGatos, Monterey and Portland Oregon and have been out to the coastseveral times in the last 10 years. I just love the weather in theMonterey Bay area and it is certainly beautiful - San Francisco is such afun town - my husband and I spent several days there before we flew toAlaska and I always visit when I visit my brothers. Have you ever spenttime in Michigan - it is not all bad but it does get cold and snowy-We should have fun putting this together and finding out if and how youare related to my husband (Don)Jackie

To: jwgrace99@ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:39:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Denton/Ross From: "Jackie M Halterman" |

I found a lot more(by accident) on the Denton/Ross people. Of course, Ican't remember how I got to the site but will make a copy of what I foundand mail it to you.I do have a couple of e-mail addresses hunts@bracken. (hunt) and darrellwarner@kc. (Ross)Should prove to be interesting.By the way, I live in Commerce MI which is right next door to WixomRegardsJackie

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Vikky AndersSent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:19 PMTo: wilburn-L@Subject: Elihue or Elihu Wilburn & Pocahontas

Hello from Vikky... For those of you whose Wilburn ancestors were in Goochland, VA, in 1751, and were later in east TN, I have stumbled on some interesting bits of evidence. And these pieces lead me to believe that the Embree or Embry families of Goochland, VA were allied with Wilburns. I will list what I believe to be threads that link these families together.

1. Embree or Embry families were kin to VAN METERS of Goochland, VA...(I have long suspected that Wilburns were kin to Van Meters too.)

2. Embry or Embree families were kin to Woodsons and Hughes. (Wilburns were kin to Woodson and Hughes families of Goochland, VA, same time frame.

3. The given name Talton runs in the Embry family for two hundred years, according to one Embry researcher. (Please note, this name is also spelled TARLETON).

4. Robert Talton Wilburn was b. 1816 in VA.

5. The Tarleton/ Talton family first appears in York Co VA in 1650. Richard Wilburn was noted in York Co VA in 1656.

6. The Talton/Tarleton families were allied with Hughes and Woodson families and Mims families.

7. Wilburn families of Goochland, VA were allied with Hughes,Woodson and Mims families, same time frame.

8. Ehilu Embree of east TN descends from this Goochland, VA Embry family...And he is allied with Williams family and was a generaton older than both Elihu and Elihue Wilburn.

PLEASE NOTE: I am not making any claims that either Elihue or Elihu Wilburn and their families connect to the Elihu Embree family. But I do think that this is a good possibility.

In sum, I found the following families to be allied: VanMetersEmbry/Embree/Hughes/Woodsons/Tarletons/Taltons/Mims/Wilburns

As most of you Wilburns who have ancestors in eastern TN know, court houses burnt down...there are NO census records until 1830. Few marriage records before that time frame too. So, often we have to find other means of locating our ancestors. And thanks to the internet and the work of others, we can often find clues that would have been impossible to find before the information age...

If any of you have any questions about this material, please let me know. In addition, I invite you to log onto the Tarleton genform and look for the Tarleton families in York Co VA...Some most interesting history. Keep in mind that Richard Wilburn was also noted in York VA tax records in 1656. According to Tarleton researchers, these families were allied with Woodsons and Hughes back then.

Also something that might be of interest. Trader Hughes .....At least one Hughes researcher claims that Trader Hughes died in what is now Amherst Co VA...It would take someone far more knowledgeable than me to prove or disprove this. BUT if Trader Hughes is the Hughes ancestor of those of us Wilburns who are descendants of the Goochland, VA Wilburns, then we are related to POCAHONTAS. This is a BIG IF...I am not making this claim, but I do believe it to be likely...But keep in mind..UNPROVEN> And we might be kin to POCAHONYAS through another line...But that's another story...much more work to do on that one. And do not hold your breath either..

(John Wilburn m to Suzannah Preston)...MIGHT be a possibility??????I do know that some Wilburns appear in the descendants of Pocahontas Book. But not through either the Hughes of Preston lines...forgot how they were noted as descendants...But there is a great BIG Pokie Book and Wilburns are listed in the index.. And that's it for tonight!Cheers,Vikky in San Diego

"Vikky Anders" |To: "John Grace" Subject: from Vikky Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:58:27 -0700

Hi John,Let me be the first to admit that I get carried away once I start snooping around...I somehow get crazy surfing the internet. And you are kind not to comment about this compulsive behavior that occurs after I get started. But back to the Ross guys...John, this is merely my hunch....But I think that your Ross guys were here long before the Rev War..And I suspect that the Ross and other families who married up in CARTER co KY were allied long before they settled into this eastern part of the state. I know this to be true in many cases...I have an 1850 census book (among the rubble) of ten counties in eastern KY...I once did a rough calculation of different surnames...

And roughly speaking too...approximately 1600 different surnames were noted, among a population of approximately 40,000 people including children of course. John, when you find the time, would you zap me your pedigree...something very simple like this...

Richard Wilburn m Ann Whitlock c 1715...lived in Middlesex VA

son Richard Wilburn (b c 1717-1820) m Hughes and other women too

father of Richard, Wm, Stephen, Robert, Lewis and Temperance, Elizabeth

Sons: Robert and Lewis settled into Carter KY.

Robert m Priscilla Fultz Gullihue in Carter KY in 1844..first wife mother of his children was Manerva Williams...family lived in Giles, VA... Robert had following known children:

Gulley b. 1830 m Martha Robertson

Edward Burrell Wilburn m Nancy James and Catherine Fraley

Robert Talton m Mariah Wilburn and Mary Ann Ross

Wm m Nancy Long

Manerva m Preston Crank

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Lewis Wilburn (c 1770-1850) m Susan Blevinstheir son Lewis m Eliz Fitzpatricktheir children were:

Margaret m John Waugh Lewis m Eliz Carroll John m margaret Biggs Eliz m John Bringar Mary ann m George James Suzannah m James Jarvis Havey m Mahelia McAdams

Nelson m Margaret Amy and Catherine Elliott..........my guys Mariah m Robert Wilburn Rueben m Celia James

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Now back to Harry Truman...How very sad that he left office with such a low public rating... I read several Truman bios years ago...I came to really value this President. Just a tidbit here...About ten years ago, I read one of Margaret Trumans who dune it novels and was actually a bit shocked at the detailed sex in her book. Who knew that Maggie was up to writing these things???? .My favorite American is ole Ben Franklin...and I still love George McGovern...but not that many voters shared my view back in 1972. Cheers, Vikky in San Diego

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un-related Platte Co. Kinamons:

"KINNAMON, Emily Ann " 01-Apr-1948 "Independence, Jackson Co. Mo. Woodlawn Cemetery" "Dike, Noah Isaro" acraw @tacnet.

"KINNAMON, Myrtle May " b. JUL 1879 in Indiana d. 28-May-1934 in Lee's Summit, Jackson Co. Mo. married Reason Wilson Dike acraw @tacnet.

both daughters of George Washington Kinnamon & Margaret Hester Stuart

Author: F.D. Date: 10 Oct 2001 3:01 PM GMT In Reply to: Re: Kinnamon in MO correction by: John

Emily (Kinnamon) Dike is buried at Woodlawn Cemetery in Independence with/beside her husband Noah. I have not looked for them there. My dad remembered that they lived in the Independence area and thought they were buried in Independence. I later found more information that confirmed that the couple was at Woodlawn.

In the 1900 census for Cass Co. (Pleasant Hill township): my great grandfather, "Reece" (Reason) Dike with wife Myrtle (Kinnamon) and son, age 2, "Leroy" (Otis Leroy). Also listed was Noah & Emily, and several other members of the Dike/Dyke family. On the census, I believe Myrtle's parents were recorded as being born in Indiana but under Emily it said differently - I'll check. faral_d@

tieMae/k.txt ... King, Robert" Egoldmans @ "KINNAMON, Emily Ann " 01-Apr-48 "Independence,Jackson Co. Mo. Woodlawn Cemetery" "Dike, Noah Isaro" acraw @tacnet.missouri

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"R_Minnery" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Grace genealogy on RootsWeb Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:10:43 -0200

John, I have the least information about my Grace family. My Great, G G grandmother was Lucinda Grace married to a Russell. She had two sons, Jacob & Albert. They resided in Mahoning County and she died in 1880. She was hit by a train and six months later her son Jacob was killed by a train. We have an old book signed by a Daniel Grace and wife Jane. I have searched all of Ohio and could not find this particular Grace family. I believe Lucinda had a sister Betsy Bentley who resided in Antiquity, Ohio (Meigs County). I know this because I have a letter she wrote to Jacob after her sister's death. On census records she lists her birth as Virginia. Her son says she was born in PA. Any help would be appreciated.PS: I suspect her husband's name maybe Thomas from Columbiana but again no records to prove it.

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"C W Butler" |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: Ross lineage Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:48:01 -0500

John:If you had any idea how many of those children I already had! Is there evena chance of getting a listing from you?Do you know if Martha J and William Applegate had a daughter Maude b:19 Jul1895?Did Nancy marry an Underwood later in life?Was Lucinda Frances Armstrong the daughter of John W Armstrong and LucindaMcDavid?Sarah Alice Campbell's mother was Cynthia M Brown, father Thomas J Campbell.Is this what you're showing? I had S.A. m:"Ross" with no details.Anyway, look forward to hearing from you.C W Butlercwbutler@

From: "C W Butler" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Ross lineage Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 00:33:13 -0500

John:Cynthia Brown is my 2nd cousin 4x removed. Thus all of Sarah and JJH Ross's issue are related. I also interested in Reuben Fletcher and Theresa Ellen Offill. Ditts for Nancy and Elza Cline, who's mother was an Offill. I have four issue for JP Ross and Louisa "Susie" Office. Do you know if they had more? Did he and Lavernia Whitt have any issue? I'm also related to Lavernia thru Rice lineage. Her mother was Mary Jane Rice m:Edmund "Ned" Whitt. Mary Jane was also my 2nd cousin 4x removed. I have about 19 small screen pages (a dozen of so) of Ross folks, with many unlinked. I'd love to be able to link 'em into families.Do you happen to know more about Thomas Campbell MD that m:Cynthia Brown?I don't mind receiving a large listing and, to this point, my isp has not returned some that have run a couple meg. I'll leave that to your discresion.My own listing for descendents of John Nelson and Nancy runs about 35 pages with an index if you're interested in those data. I knew a lot of folks down this lineage when I lived in Olive Hill, but never dreamed I was related to them then.I could also send lots of little Ross listings to show how they tie into my other lineages.

From: "C W Butler" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Ross lineage Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 10:57:43 -0500

Campbell listing attached. I know/knew lots of the later folks; grew up with them in Olive Hill.

From: "C W Butler" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Vanlandingham genealogy Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:17:38 -0500

Well, that was a pleasant surprise. I was dead ended at Valentine who m:my first cousin, Mary James. I've also been able to link in several of my unlinked Vanlandinghams. Many are in the birth index as Valandingham.

Are you tracking the James lineage? I have James grandparents. 8)

"C W Butler" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Grizzell genealogy Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:25:33 -0500

John: I had George Grizzell and Ruth as parents of John William that m:1st cousin Cynthia Perry. Is it possible that George was m:2x or did I get come incorrect information? I'm hooking on a listing of JW and Cynthia's lineage prior to adding your data. That way there will be less to wade thru. I'm pleasantly surprised that Eba was their daughter. Another Grizzell research gave me their family and left Eba out, but she fits like a glove.I grew up under the feet of the Lyon(s) boys. Frankie told me he was tempted to change his dad's tombstone and make it Lyon without the s. Mary Ellen Hedge gave me lots of info a year or so back (she ties into my Burchett line), but she was in the process of "forgetting", thus couldn't remember anything about Eba. Since I've talked with her, I understand she's succumbed to alzheimer's. William Clayton "Bill" Carroll, John Phillip "Jack" Lyon both used to trade at Darvin Sturgill's Gulf station, where I hung out. You should be able to extend your contemporary lineage a bit. By the way, you have a couple of Clarence Frank Lyon's half siblings linked incorrectly.Theresa Hope Crawford's grandmother was a James, should you be tracking those. I grew up next door to Hubert's sister, who was also my 6th grade teacher. I never dreamed we were related. Hubert just died 31 Jan 2002.

From: "C W Butler" | To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: ref. Lyons genealogy and others Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:22:55 -0500

John:I have both Lyons lineages in my data as well, unlinked. I actually went looking after studying your chart, to no avail. Somebody, somewhere probably has it. This is usually where I start posting.

I, too, am very please with the data you've sent. I grew up a couple houses away from Jean Ann Rice, who, at the time, was married to my cousin Lowell Henderson. I had no idea he was my cousin at the time. I found her, as he daughter of Nora Wilburn, in the birth index. I had her mother elsewhere, but didn't have enough information to merge them together.I'm a bit confused re GW Grizzell. I don't have one with a Boggs mother. I show Frances Wilhoit's mother as Matilda Ann Boggs. Could this be to what you're referring? The Albert Burton data is obviously in error, a typo. I have deleted the birth data for now. I have a number of Albert Burtons, but haven't identified the one m:Mary Etta. Well, it doesn't sound good for Cynthia and Mr. Salisbury. Here is one source for the Bruss info:



I need to send you a James listing. We have a couple of point of contention that should be resolved. I'll try and annotate those.

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DATE: 12/09/2002 SUBMITTER: Kathy Harris sheptinker@

SURNAMES: FITZPATRICK, BAKER, PATTERSON

In reply to query posted on 4-12-2002 by "John" - I would love to have a copy of the Sunday School picture you have. I am diligently pursuing my FITZPATRICK ancestors in Jackson, Athens, and Vinton Counties. Did you post the query regarding the ROSS and FITZPATRICK families? I have a photo (very poor quality though) which includes Talma FITZPATRICK, MARTINS, FINCH, JOHNSON and CRAMBLITS. Please contact me.

Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:47:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kathy Harris" | Subject: Re: Fitzpatrick genealogy To: "John Grace"

Hi John, Yes you did. I don't remember if you attachedcopies to an email, or snail mailed them, but I nowhave them, thanks to you. By the way, I have not been able to "connect" toTalma. However, my mother and all my aunts swear theyheard stories about Talma and that she HAS to berelated. Maybe we'll find out one day! You haven't run across a Jackson Fitzpatrick fromthe Vinton/Jackson County area yet have you? If you

do, don't forget me. Have a great evening.Kathy

--- John Grace wrote:> Kathy, I just came across your posting on the> Jackson County genealogy web site. It was from over> a year ago. Did I ever contact you concerning the> old photo?

> > John W. Grace> Oakland,Ca.>

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From: Tapteachdiva@ |Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 19:17:04 EST Subject: Re: Tulga genealogy To: jwgrace99@

Hi --I am so sorry I haven't gotten back with you. The holiday season was wonderful, but extremely busy. Between my business and "home" stuff, I haven't had time to turn around twice.

I have copies of some pictures that I would like to send to you. I don't have a scanner or anyway of sending them other than by snail mail. I have some pictures of my grandmother (Ruth Tulga) with her two surviving sisters (Maragaret & Clara) and then some older ones that I am currently digging out of the old albums. I have a couple of my grandma and Aunt Margaret with their grandmother Schmitt. I have a pictures of Cecelia Tulga, who, I guess, died at a young age. If you could send me your address, I'll get those off to you.

Any info you have on the family, I would love to see. Unfortunately, my parents split when I was very young and my mother didn't like talking about my dad very much, so my knowledge of the Kessens is very lacking. I've been trying to find out about my dad, Bernard Kessen, but have been hitting alot of deadends. I know he was in San Pedro, California in 1958; I found a letter he had written to my mother with that return address.

Let me know all that you need and I'll look in the old family Bibles and see if I can get some dates for you. I do know that there was a book put together on the Holmans. I can try to find out the name of the "author" from my Aunt Maxine, if you would like. She says there are a number of mistakes in the book, but also alot of things that are correct.

Enough of my babbling! Let me know what you need along with your address and I'll get the pictures to you.

Thanks again, for the e-mail--sometimes I get a little behind and just need a nudge to get going again!

Ruth

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1b. Tips from Readers: "Technology to the Rescue"

2. Connecting through RootsWeb: "Patience and Persistence Pay Off";

Bridging the Atlantic to Germany"

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Whatever"; "Cousins by the Dozens"; "He's Not My Cousin,

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1a. MAXIMIZING SEARCHES ON MESSAGE BOARDS. Click on MESSAGE BOARDS tab

at the top of any RootsWeb page or go to:

You can search all of the message boards, only a particular category, or

only one specific board by selecting the appropriate button, but it

depends upon your location within the Message Board hierarchy. As your

teachers use to tell you: Pay attention!

To perform a simple search, type in a surname (last name), a keyword, or

a phrase, and click GO!

In all searches, keywords or phrases will be searched for the closest to

the least exact match--in that order. For a more specific search click

on the ADVANCED SEARCH link. A search of all boards is the default.

Complete any or all of the items on the ADVANCED SEARCH form:

--FIND MESSAGES CONTAINING: (list a keyword or phrase)

--WITH SUBJECT CONTAINING: (searches only message subjects)

--BY AUTHOR: (the posters' names will be searched)

--POSTED IN THE LAST ____: (select a time period from drop-down menu)

--WITH SURNAME: (searches only the Surname Box entries) also offers a

check box to use a Soundex search. (For information about Soundex, a

special index, see: ).

--WITH MESSAGE TYPE: (Select from the drop-down menu: All, Query, Bible,

Biography, Birth, Cemetery, Census, Death, Deed, Immigration, Lookup,

Marriage, Military, Obituary, Pension, or Will).

Searches on the Message Boards support wildcards represented by an

asterisk * or question mark ? following a minimum of the first three

letters of the keyword (search term) or surname. You cannot begin a

search request surname/keyword with an asterisk or question mark

(wildcard) -- you can only use a wildcard after you have started with at

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is used to denote anywhere from zero to five missing or unknown

characters while the question mark is used only when you are looking for

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letters). Searching for johns*n will, however, locate Johnston in

addition to Johnson and Johnsen.

You can show more than one question mark to represent more than one

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Roberson but not Robertson. Searching for rob?son will only pick up

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those hits that contain the word 'jones' -- provided the word 'paul'

does not also appear in the message. The word "john" may or may not

appear in the message. Messages that include both 'john' and 'jones'

would rank higher in degree of match (relevancy) than those that only

include 'jones'.

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by a surname or a keyword. Regardless of the case (upper or lower) found

in the actual posts on the message boards, if you will type using all

lowercase letters in the search box it will make your search case

insensitive, and therefore yield the maximum number of matches.

Too many matches? Enter additional data on the ADVANCED SEARCH page to

narrow down your results. If the surname for which you are looking is

also a common word (such as HILL) use the ADVANCED SEARCH link and

search on the surname by typing it into the SURNAME BOX. This enables

you to search only message board posts in which this "word" is used as a

surname. Searching only on the surname field eliminates authors' names

from coming up in your search results.

Experiment with these various search options. You may be pleasantly

surprised with the results, and start your new year off doing the "happy

genie" dance.

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1b. Tips from Readers. Technology to the Rescue

Thanks to: John W. Grace jwgrace99@

A couple of years ago I purchased a document scanner and CD-ROM writer

for my PC. Like many people, we used our CD writer to record music, but

I soon found the CDs to be very useful as digital archives for

genealogical information.

The first things that I put on a CD were my descendancy charts. I

maintain my charts in text files, and I found that it was easy to

convert them into the HTML format that my Internet browser uses. I

"write" the HTML-formatted charts onto a CD and whenever a relative with

a PC asks for a copy of my chart, I give them a CD. The HTML format

allows them to easily view the charts using their Web browser.

Like many genealogy "nuts," I have hundreds of old photos, birth and

death certificates and the like that I have collected through the years.

Now I put scanned images of these onto CDs (usually in the .JPEG image

format). I made some small changes in my HTML charts to allow the viewer

to click on a link next to a person’s name and bring up a photo or other

image associated with that individual. I include a few lines of informa-

tion describing the image, any date associated with it, the source, etc.

It works great, and only needs to be done once.

I also have some recorded audio files that I have linked to my chart so

that now we can not only see the family relationship on the chart and

view their photo, but also hear their voice! It didn’t require a lot of

technical knowledge either.

I am now in the process of creating my "ultimate" CD-ROM. My plan is to

scan just about everything that I have that’s scannable, and put it all

onto CDs. I will then worry much less that a fire, flood or some other

disaster will destroy my genealogical treasures. I put copies of my CDs

in safe places, so even if the original documents are lost, at least I

will still have digital images of them. It’s much more economical to

create CDs (about 10 cents each) than it is to make photo copies. So my

advice is: "scan everything!"

2. Connecting Through RootsWeb. Thanks for sharing your stories.

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Patience and Persistence Pay Off

--Patricia Bowmaster dpbow@

I thought I'd hit the ultimate brick wall. I was trying to trace the

family of my maternal grandmother, Ida Rose McLELLAN. From family

records and her immigration application, I knew that she was born in

Winnipeg. I'd learned from my mother the first names and birth order of

grandmother's siblings, the name of her father, the maiden name of her

mother, and that her father was a superintendent with the Canadian

Pacific Railroad. I even knew the address in Winnipeg where grandmother

lived as a child (from a saved letter sent to a favorite aunt). What I

couldn't find was any official documentation.

I'd sent to Canada for her birth registration -- none found. I'd spent

hours reading microfilms of the 1901 Canadian Census for Winnipeg,

Manitoba -- not there. Before his death, I'd asked my mother's brother

what he could remember. He remembered being told as a child that his

maternal grandfather was an orphan as a result of a fire and had been

separated from his only sibling, a sister.

I had posted a message on RootsWeb two years ago and had repeatedly

searched RootsWeb for any information on grandmother's family. Early

in December I received a message from a gentleman named Donald McLELLAN.

He had an obituary for his granduncle, John McLELLAN, and thought my

great-grandfather and his granduncle might be the same person. I regret-

fully replied, including the information from my uncle, that we

were probably not related. Fortunately, for me he e-mailed again with

some additional information about his granduncle's children. He listed

their names as Fred, John, Frank, Mrs. E. B. REYNOLDS, and Rose.

Grandmother, always called Rose, had brothers named Fred, John, and

Frank and a sister named Agnes. I made a hurried call to my mother to

find out what Aunt Aggie's married name was. It was Mrs. E. B. REYNOLDS!

Donald McLELLAN had also given me the middle initial of Fred McLELLAN.

With that, I searched the 1901 Canadian census on one more

time. I found the whole family -- correct first names, correct birth

date for my grandmother, correct birth order for the children. However,

the last name had been spelled McLILLAN. From the census, I was able to

get birth dates for grandmother's siblings. Between the census and what

I learned from Donald McLELLAN, I have gained two generations.

Thank You! to RootsWeb and to Donald McLELLAN.

[Editor's Note: Vowels are most likely to fall victim to spelling

gremlins in surnames. Don't overlook your ancestors because of spelling

variants. See: RootsWeb's Guide to Tracing Family Trees:

Why You Can't Find Them ]

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Bridging the Atlantic to Germany

--Ruediger Kemmler, Munich, Germany. r_kemmler@gmx.de

As I'm very interested in the emigration waves that occurred from my

hometown area in Germany, I have extracted more than 1,400 names of

emigrants from the church records and posted them on WorldConnect. When

I started genealogy research three years ago I used ,

, and the sites to find out more about the

family name of KEMMLER and other family members. In most cases

submitters had KEMMLER ladies in their pedigree who had married into

other families, but my core lines hadn't be explored so far.

Luckily I found very fast relationships to cousins in the United States.

This experience, together with the information retrieved from the book

"Die Auswanderung auf den Härten," hooked me into doing to an emigration

project. Beside my continuing local research for the name KEMMLER I

started research for the name and the spelling variations (KEMLER,

KIMLER, KÄMMLER) on a worldwide basis.

After my first experiences where I encountered the difficulties to find

the right locations I decided to post my emigrants regularly on

WorldConnect. So at least if somebody has name and birth date, he can

find the entry and I can help further. In addition I have created a

personal website that provides maps, addresses, historical information

and also some pictures about the way of life today and in former days.

This website is entirely in English, with only some entry pages in

German and French. On this website you can also find all my emigrants.

These pages are updated frequently. With these two measures I hope, that

any researcher who has a KEMMLER link will contact me and we will be

able to establish a network of data and share information.

In the meantime my core database has more than 12,000 entries mainly

from the former Kingdom of Wuerttemberg, thereof are about 1.900 KEMMLER

and 1,440 emigrants and another 800, mainly KEMMLERs, in a second

database, where I'm collecting the data, which doesn't match so far. The

high number of emigrants results in the transcription of the church

records of my hometown and the neighboring towns of Wankheim,

Maehringen, Immenhausen. Jettenburg, and Kusterdingen. So far I have

found about 95 percent of the emigrants listed as families in the book.

The advantage of my database is, that I have also the information about

the children, if they emigrated with their parents. These emigrants are

not limited to KEMMLER, there also other very common names of our area

like BADER, BAUER, BRAUN, DIGEL, GRAUER, MAIER, OTT, RIEHLE, SCHETTLER,

WALKER, and WANDEL to list some of them. So if you find an entry of

interest in my database, contact me, because normally I can provide more

information on this person and his ancestry. Please see:

Emigration from the Haerten Area on WorldConnect:



Ruediger Kemmler's Genealogy Homepage:



3. New User-Contributed Databases at RootsWeb



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The following datasets have come online recently (these are name

searchable, but they are not browseable):

U.S.A.:

Book Indexes: Index to the Congregational Church in Minnesota

1,887 records; Charles G. Deutsch



Military Records: Army Air Force Technical Training Course,

Murray State College,Tishomingo OK, March 1943

427 records; Betty Ulrich Cooper



Military Records: U.S. Army 3156th Signal Service Company Roster;

WWII--1945; 161 records; Tom Brown



Obituaries: Selected Obituaries, Louisiana, Illinois, and Virginia

55 records; Kate Johnson



ALABAMA. Dale County. Dale County Alabama 1830 Census Index

301 records; Robert Bellamy



ARKANSAS. Newton County. Hasty Cemetery

128 records; Amanda Yarborough



CALIFORNIA. Santa Cruz County. Watsonville High School,

1916 Manzanitas; 319 records; Janece Carter Streig for the Pajaro

Valley Historical Association



INDIANA. Tippecanoe County. Selected Tombstone Data -- West Point

Cemetery; 38 records; Dale Smith



OKLAHOMA. Oklahoma County. Sunny Lane Cemetery Section 15, Del City

414 records; Jim Woodruff



PENNSYLVANIA. Fulton County. 1920 Fulton County Census Index

(Ayr/Belfast Township) 620 records; Scott L. Byrd



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Who Has the Data? Does your state, province, county, parish, church, old

military unit, or alma mater have material with a few names or thousands

of names available that you think would be of interest to genealogists

and historians? Do you have a list of names or a database that you think

would be of value and interest to others? In most cases, RootsWeb would

be proud to host it. Such user databases are other than your family tree

since family trees can be posted at WorldConnect:



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U.S.A.

arsma --Southern Memorial Association (Confederate Cemetery

caretakers at Fayetteville, Washington County, Arkansas)

flcthono --Thonotosassa, Hillsborough County, Florida

fltcdar --Tampa Chapter, National Society Daughters of the

American Revolution (Hillsborough County, Florida)

iltazewe --Tazewell County, Illinois

moccgs --Cass County Genealogical Society (Missouri)

msahgp --Mississippi American History Genealogy Project

msholmes --Holmes County, Mississippi

nericchs --Richardson County Historical Society (Nebraska)

nybhccar --Bemis Heights Chapter, Saratoga Springs, New York,

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From: "carl" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Burk and other families Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:14:44 -0500

Hello JohnI mailed my chart yesterday. You can look it over and check the Burks. I am also looking for Martins. My John Hartley married Nancy Lizzie Martin of Virginia and that is all I have. I think her father was Willis and the mother is no named. Take care.Carl

From: "carl" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Sunday School Photo Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:43:03 -0500

Hello John:I'll mail you a copy. Like I said, all of my data is on "Family Tree Maker", maybe I should put it on microsoft word.What do you have on the Burk family? Do you have any additional info on any of John Hartley's family, like the Finch family or any of the people that married into the family?One puzzle I have been trying to figure out for years is Simon Hartley. Simon is burried next to John and Nancy L. Martin Hartley at the mcCune cemetery. Simon and Isabel McCune and three children that died young if I remember correctly. He is to old for Philip's family and there is a gap in John Hartley's children he could fill. He does not appear in any census until 1850. He bought land in 1850. He and Isabel were married in 1849. No data up til then. I was suprised that no one in the Jackson county genealogy club knew anything about the Hartley family. 'll get that file mailed tomorrow. Take care.Carl

From: "carl" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Sunday School Photo Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:46:16 -0500

Hello John:All of my data is on Family Treemaker and I just sent the Hartley file. Here is my line:Philip Hartley and Mary Siffert/Siford, I got this, like many others from Rick Hartley in Iowa, I have not proven this data, then: John Hartley and Ruth Newell: Joseph Hartley and Eliza Burks Hartley: John Hartley and Nancy Martin Hartley: Horatio Seymour (Rush) Hartley and Mary Ellen Wickline: William Jennings Hartley and Stella Rapp: Carl R. Hartley, Sr. and Ita Tillman. Horatio was never called anything but Rush. The census that you sent me has him as Horatio C. and William was reverred to as Will even though all documents list William.The Turvey information was new to me. I have never seen William and George (adopted) listed in any census that I have recorded.Have you contacted Darlene Woodruff about her family? I also have that file.Frances E. Hartley married George (Bunk) Wickline. He was only known as Bunk, don't know why. I am also related to the Whaley and Wickline families.Recently I received info that I am related to George Rapp, leader of the Harmony Society, ask google to fine it. I still have not proven this info. It seem like genealogy data comes in spurts, nothing or too much to process and research.Thanks for sending your address - computers are great when they work.Carl Hartley, 5240 Beaver Pike, Beaver, Oh 45613I haven't been able to fine much on Joseph and Elizabeth and I appreciate all of the info you can send it helps to eliminate others not in the family.Let me know if the file is ok, keep in touch. Many thanks.Carl Hartley

From: "carl" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Sunday School Photo Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:31:48 -0500

Hello John:I am looking for information on any Hartley in Jackson County. I cannot find any relationship with the Hartleys in Athens County. All of my family was born in Liberty or Jackson Township, Jackson County, Oh. The Hartley School house was built on land sold by Thomas Hartley a brother to John Hartley which is the line that I am from. Any photo is appreciated as well as any info on your Hartley line. Many thanks.Carl Hartley, Beaver, Oh

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From: g.mckinniss@ |To: jwgrace99@ Subject: McKinnis Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:12:57 +0000

John, Dean Hickman forwarded your note to me.

My Grandmother was Delila Leach McKinniss (1875-1968) and her sister

was Maud

Leach Harris Voelker. If you check out the Dovelion site and look at

the

McKinnises you should see them. (My line uses two s's)

My Grandfather was George William McKinniss (1871-1955).

I don't know much about Maud as she died in the 1940's.

Note that George and Delila's oldest daughter is also Maude Anita

(1900-1984).

The other family names mentioned in your note mean nothing to me.

Have you any communication with a Marilyn Browder?

Sincerely,George W. McKinnissColumbus, Ohio

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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:15:22 EST

From: NankieBee@

To: KYCARTER-L@

Subject: Carter County Geography

Plain Text Attachment [ Save to my Yahoo! Briefcase | Download File ]

My Dad, Fred Blankenship was born in Grayson in 1905. He left a 15 pp

"autobiography" for each of his three children. I think the following

will

be of interest to all of us who live in or are descended from Carter

County

people. Some of you could be saying, so who didn't know that? Well, I

did

not.

"I had better give you a lesson in Carter County geography. There was

once

commercial coal in the South east part of Carter County and adjacent

Lawrence

County. A railroad was built to carry this coal to the Ohio River in

Greenup

County. It was the Eastern Kentucky Railroad. It started in the North

at

Riverton (a suburb of Greenup) and ran south through Honeywell,

Hopewell,

Oldtown (all in Greenup County), Anglin, Pactolus (??), Grayson,

Hitchens,

Denton, Willard and Webbville. The latter in Lawrence County. We had

two

trains a day, each way, all the time I was living in Grayson. The

tracks

generally followed the Little Sandy River. No member of my family of

either

side (BLANKENSHIP & HOGSTEN) ever lived more than three miles from that

Railroad or River if they lived in Carter County. Hitchens, where this

railroad crossed the Chesapeake & Ohio, we called E.K.Junction."

Hope some of you will also enjoy this geography lesson. Now if

I can

just find the map he left for us with all the family homes and graves

on it!!

Nancy

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To: jwgrace99@

Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:00:10 -0500

Subject: Carter Co. web site

From: "Phyllis A Raker" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Hello, John Grace

Thank you for taking on the web site..........I go to it often.

My Carter Co. ancestors are my Dad's people.

Philip Counts / Julia Gose came to Carter co about 1850. He is buried

at Pleasant Valley / Counts CrossRoads.

George Washington Counts / Sarah Newell

Aaron, A.J., Counts / Melvina Mullins, buried at Horsley Cemetery

Watt Counts / Carrie Dean, buried at Horsley

Clyde Counts / Gladys Virgin

Me

Also DEAN, MULLINS, BLANKENSHIP, FULTZ, WILLIAMS

For the past two years, I've been photographing and indexing the

Horsley

Cem.

With your direction, I will be able to put the index of Horsley (aka

Rock

Springs) on the web site.

The photos are also available to put there.

NOW< I don't know a thing about how to do that!!

My first intent, which I am doing, was to make a notebook for the

Ashland

Public Library, and the Greenup

Public Library. At long last those should be ready to deliver in May/

June of this year.

There is also one for Carter Co.........when a good place to put it

becomes available.

The book contains a complete index to the cemetery, with notes from

many

local people on the connections of those buried there. I also looked

up

some death certificates to find out about some people.

Need to look up more............as I can't believe the number of people

I

found that had no death certificate.

I looked these up because I had gotten into the project, and my

curiosity

just kept growing.

We are on the road this month (so. Florida) versus the snow in

Cincinnati.

We will return sometime the first few days of March.

Phyllis Counts Raker

To: jwgrace99@

Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:51:49 -0500

Subject: Re: Carter Co. web site

From: "Phyllis A Raker" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Hello, John

Ah, yes, 'tis my Virgin family of which you speak.

Where does your relation fit.?

I have a great deal of info.............and then my cousin has some

dozen

notebooks on the line.

She only does two lines.........

Virgin and Eastham.

Where I take off on all the lines as we go back.

Time lately has been spent on the Raker and Obertate lines of my

husband.

I am in contact with a

researcher in Germany.........who is looking for some of his relatives

who emigrated from Germany to

this area, and he in turn has been into German records on the Rakers

and

Obertates...........and has added

three generations to my searching.

Sorry, I thought I had written since I got home. We limped / drug

back

into home.

I had an coughy achy, coughy, sneezy, coughy, thing that drug on and

on.

My husband did a major number on his 'good' knee while playing golf

(out

of the sand) near the end of our stay in Florida. His appt with the

orthopedic surgeon is on 30 March.

(Guess that means more yard work for me this year.)

The Horsley Cem is well preserved...........there is a board of four

that

take very good care of it.

I've been in touch with all of them while compiling the index.

I don't have a lot more work to do on the index and albums of

Horsley......................just finding the time to

tackle one project at a time seems to wear me down.

It's at the top of the list..................must do.

As soon as I clean it up, I'll ask for specific how-to directions.

Again, thanks for your work, and for your note.

Phyllis

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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:55:53 -0800 (PST)

From: "Sheila Gibson ~ SpiritHawk" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Subject: [KY] Update "Torn Apart" Brown/Shelton/Harris

To: KENTUCKY-L@

Hello! I first published this on 23 Mar 2003 & was encouraged by the

response. I am getting new contacts, new leads & most especially new

hope for finding our “missing” family members. I apologize for having

directed you to . I did not consider that

requires invitation access. Several of you have contacted me about

getting in. I am working to take care of this ASAP. I ask for your

patience if you have not yet heard back from me. Someone suggested that I add

more specific info like additional names, dates, places, events known

in our family. (My time has been going towards getting this piece ready,

sorry!) I have revised the story and have also inserted some genealogy

which I have placed at the end. Here then is my (revised) story:

**********

Sheltons were already in the frontiers of America long before the

Revolution. Our branch of SHELTONs takes on a twist a bit different from

most other branches I know about; but perhaps not in the beginning.

Family stories say one of our ggg?grandfathers was brother of Sarah who

married Patrick Henry, the patriot. I suspect our line was part of the

Sheltons found in colonial records of Virginia & the Carolinas. I have

studied some of these lines and have followed them into the Indian

territories of Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois,

Arkansas & Missouri still in very early times. We know that by the

1820s some of our Shelton ancestors lived in Missouri. By the 1830s some

became Mormons (members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day

Saints). Others in our family actively fought against them. When the

Mormons were preparing to leave Illinois and move west in the 1840s,

some of the Shelton children did not want to go; and so they ran away!

. It is supposed that nonMormon relatives hid them. Most sadly,

since angry mobs were then forcing the Mormons to leave, our Shelton

family became permanently split apart. The two groups totally lost contact

with each other. In Utah, the pioneers may have found refuge from

religious intolerance; but FAMILY IS FAMILY. And these pioneer Sheltons

ever longed to be reunited with the rest of their kin. This yearning

continues into our day. As descendants and extended families of the

Mormon pioneer Sheltons, we still seek to find our unknown family. Not

only do we seek descendants of those who stayed behind, but we also

seek to find their fathers’ and grandfathers’ families as far back as we

can. Our Utah Shelton branch married into the families of ALLEN,

BONNER, BROWN, CUMMINGS, CUNNINGHAM, FAUSETT, GOFORTH, GRAGG, GREGG, HAIR,

HAMILTON, HARRIS, HARRISON, HENDERSON, HULLINGER, IVIE, JOHNSON, KINSEY,

MANTLE, MARSHALL, MCGIMNSEY, MERTON, MORTON, ROBINSON, RUSHTON, !

SMITH, SULTZER, THOMPSON, WARDLE, WATKINS, WRIGHT & many others. We

are learning that with tools like our website that

we can finally share information efficiently! Here's hoping the time

has arrived when we can now push forward and finally find the roots from

whence we came. If after checking this you feel you might belong to

our scattered group or have information that could help find our missing

kin, please write me (Sheila Gibson) at s2gibso@. You may

also contact me thru the link at the bottom of the login screen of

. Please join us in our project. Extended family is also

very welcome. Thanks so much!

*****

WARNING: The following genealogy contains unproven familylore & is

presented for guidance only. “Familylore” is all we’ve ever had on some

things! In my research I found many conflicts within the various

published biographies, original documents & family records. Apparently, as

each ancestor remembered, recorded and passed information down, they

didn’t get together to get their stories straight! LOL! We know it is true

that each of us remembers and perceives things differently. I can

prove errors in some of our records, other info might never be straightened

out. Just remember that for now the following is only LORE:

Stephen SHELTON (b. 9 Mar 1809 in NC, son of Stephen Shelton &

Elizabeth ?Unk) FIRST married Nancy BROWN (b. abt 1809, possibly in MO, d. 1832

in MO, dau of John Brown & Nancy ?Unk). Although not proven,

familylore says the children of Stephen & Nancy were: Joel or Jewell (b. abt

1825, M, died when a young child); William (b. abt 1826, M, lost contact;

Samuel (b. 1827 in MO, M, lost contact); Andrew Jackson (b. 1829 in Mo,

M, called “Jack” or “Jo”, ?lost contact); & Mary Ann (b. 24 Dec 1831 in

Harmony Township, Washington, MO, F, called “Polly”, went to UT, md

John McKee FAUSETT). Stephen’s first wife, Nancy Brown Shelton d. abt

1833. #### Stephen Shelton SECOND married Abigail HARRIS (b. 6 May 1818

in Knoxville, TN, dau of John Harris Jr. & Abigail GRAGG). (Abigail

had been married previously to ?Unk GOFORTH (div)& had Nancy Serilda

Goforth (b. 5 Feb 1837 in , Washington, MO, F, adopted by Stephen, went to

UT, md Thomas MANTLE.) The children of Stephen & Abigail wer!

e: John (b. 4 Dec 1839 in Nauvoo, IL, went to UT, md Mary Morton);

Elizabeth (b. Jun 1842 in Nauvoo, IL, d. 28 Aug 1843 in Nauvoo); Martha

Jane (b. 22 Jun 1844 in Nauvoo, IL, F, went to UT, md James Baker

HAMILTON); Joseph (b. 1846 at Mount Pisgah, IA, M, went to UT, d. 1867 not md);

Hyrum (b. 10 Mar 1848 at Mount Pisgah, IA, M, went to UT, md Emmeline

SULTZER); Stephen (b. 5 Aug 1851 in Provo, UT, M, md Margaret BONNER); &

Abigail (b. 5 Jan 1854 in Provo, UT, F, md Adelbert HULLINGER).

*SpiritFamily is lovingly dedicated to Leonard Aaron Shelton (1914-2003),

descendant of the Shelton Utah pioneers. ~~Sheila Shelton Gibson,

SpiritFamily Domain Administrator.

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From: "Linda Crawford" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Welcome Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:34:56 -0600

This is my husband's Crawford line. I never found James's name as James Harvey. It was always James although the family there kept saying James Harvey. They said his wife was Virginia Jane, but again we only found her as Jane. My husband's 2nd great grandfather was Benjamin F. son of James and Jane. I have worked up material that I sent to others who were working on the family and I would be glad to send that to you if it would help you in any way. It it disagrees with alot of what we had been told, but I tell where I can back up what I found. I sent in a number of the Carter Co pictures. There is a bio on Jane on the KY Bios site. I was thrilled when I found it as it helped verify a number of things. We had been told how she had died in Carter Co and James was hiding from the devil and whomever else was chasing him!! ha-ha. Let me know and I will gladly forward those letters on to you so you can read and study them. Linda

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From: "carl" |To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Sunday School Photo Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:09:37 -0500

Hello John: The following is an obit that I ran across: Leslie A. Frick Leslie A. Frick, 90, of SR 335 Beaver, Ohio, departed this life Monday, February 17, 2003 at O.S.U. (Ohio State University) Hospital, Columbus, Ohio.

Born October 11, 1912 in Pike County, a son of the late William and Martha (Hartley) Frick. He devoted 23 years of his life to the Waverly City School System having served as custodian at North Elementary a majority of this tenure. Mr. Frick was a naturalist and avid gardener enjoying the summer breaks of his profession at his Jackson Township farm. At Waverly, Ohio on June 1, 1937, he was united in marriage to the former Wilma Moore who survives. Other survivors include 3 sons; James (Dora) Frick, Charles L. (Rosie) Frick, Clarence (Thelma) Frick all of Hemphill, Texas and 1 daughter, Mary Ellen Adkins of Beaver, Ohio. Also, surviving are 11 grandchildren, 24 great-grandchildren and 3 great-great-grandchildren. Along with his parents he was preceded in death by 1 sister; Nellie Frick and 1 granddaughter; Sharon K. Frick. Roger Tomlison and Marilyn Collins will co-officiate the funeral service 1:00 P.M. Sunday, February 23, 2003 at the Cox Funeral Home in Beaver where friends may call 4-8 P.M. Saturday. Interment will follow at the Hay Hollow Cemetery, Jackson Township.

Keep in touch. Carl Hartley, Beaver, OH

From: "carl" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Sunday School Photo Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:46:35 -0500

Hello John:For some reason I cannot get the Pine Ridge picture to print. I only get about two thirds of it to print.

Also, while reviewing the document that you sent me your Hartley line I saw a note that you are looking for info on Drussila Hartley, daughter of a Thomas Hartley. I have recently run accross some data if you are interested.

Carl Hartley

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From: John Grace To: carl Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:02 PMSubject: Re: Sunday School Photo

I don't have a lot on the Hartley's. I'm attaching a couple of charts I have been maintaining. They are related to my grandfather's sister, Bertha (Ross) Hartley. Please let me know if any of these names look familiar. I'm also attaching the Pine Ridge School photo.

As a teenager,I lived for a time with my grandparents in Jackson. I have some kin in Beaver. Do you know Peter Hale or Donna Kay Hale? I'm also related to many Fitzpatricks around Jackson, as well as Ross and Greene families. John Oakland,Ca,

carl wrote:

Hello John: I am looking for information on any Hartley in Jackson County. I cannot find any relationship with the Hartleys in Athens County. All of my family was born in Liberty or Jackson Township, Jackson County, Oh. The Hartley School house was built on land sold by Thomas Hartley a brother to John Hartley which is the line that I am from. Any photo is appreciated as well as any info on your Hartley line. Many thanks.

Carl Hartley, Beaver, Oh

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From: "Barker, Vince" | To: "'reneecham@'" CC: "'jwgrace99@'" Subject: Kentuckians in Langlade County

Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:17:13 -0500

Hello Renee & John, My name is Vince Barker from Waupaca, WI. I saw your postings on and thought maybe you could be of assistance. I am originally from Forest County, WI, and am descended from some of the eastern Kentucky folk that came up here in the early 1900s. Alot of my research deals with my Civil War ancestry, and also any Confederate veterans that came up here and are buried here. I know of several in Forest County including one of my ancestors, but have am just now starting to look at Langlade County. Do either of you have names and burial locations for your Kentucky ancestors in Langlade County, or any Kentucky families buried there for that matter? Thank you for any assistance you can provide!Vince

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From: "Sherri Hall" | To: jwgrace99@ Subject: FW: New Registry Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:41:36 -0400

Kathy's Email Registry number is

I've told her I was forwarding to you for the Carter County site.

Sherri

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From: Kathy Wilson [mailto:dkwilson@]Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:16 PMTo: ldrbelties@Subject: New Registry

Hello, I have some old family photos from the Tygart creek area from Globe to Soldier, Kentucky. Let me know if you can use more. This one is of James Garvin and his wife Sophia Thompson. Kathy Wilson

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To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Fwd: Fw: The Twelve Steps for Recovering Genealogists

Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 20:51:19 -0400

John,

I got this from a friend and really liked it, thought you might too.

Mike

>From: "janice whitt"

>To: "Mike Barker"

>Subject: Fw: The Twelve Steps for Recovering Genealogists

>Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 05:44:45 -0400

>

>

>

> The Twelve Steps for Recovering Genealogists

>

> 1. I admit that I am powerless over my gedcom and that my life has

>become

> unmanageable.

> 2. I believe that there is a greater power other than genealogy and

that

> it will restore sanity to my life.

> 3. I have made a decision to turn my life over to non genealogists

and

> hope that they will understand me.

> 4. I have admitted to myself and other genealogists that I am

addicted

>to

> my obituary files.

> 5. I vow to no longer discuss "dead people" with my few remaining

>friends

> in hopes that they will remain my friends.

> 6. I promise to take photographs of things other than tombstones.

> 7. My only source of reading material will no longer be census,

wills,

> death certificates and obituaries.

> 8. I will not spend family holidays in libraries and archives.

> 9. Family picnics will no longer be held in cemeteries.

> 10. My family will no longer be referred to as "the live ones."

> 11. My time spent on the Internet will be limited to sites other

than

> , and MyGenealogy. com and Cyndi's.

> 12. I will carry these messages to other genealogists and practice

these

> principles every day.

>

>

>Author Unknown

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From: "Annie 12345" | To: jwgrace99@ Subject: HUNT family research Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:27:47 +0000

Hello John Bobby Hunt gave me your address. I am researching the HUNT family of KY(and beyond). I am descended from Absalum Daniel David HUNT. In communicating with Bobby, a cousin, we have come upon some mysteries that have us stumped.

On the 1880 Census of Fleming Co KY, in ADD HUnt's household, appears and Isabell TINSLEY, age 12, and stating that she is adopted. My mother, who is a granddaughter of Seth Alonzo HUNT, claims she never heard of her. My cousin, who is a granddaughter of Ethel Linda HUNT, hasn't either. Any clues? I have searched the 1870 Censuses of Fleming anad surrounding counties looking for a TINSLEY family looking for her birth family. And

since the 1890 Census isn't available, it's a mystery about where she came from, and where she went.

The other mystery is about Matilda HUNT.

I have the original Bible pages from ADD & Malinda DAILEY HUNT. This name doesn't appear on their list of children. But I discovered her living with Seth Alonzo And Ellen CONDON HUNT on the 1920 Hillsboro Pct., FLeming CO KY Census living in his household as a 'sister'. Looking back to 1900, she appears again in Magistrate DIst. #5 (FOx Creek) as age 51, single, Zero years married, and two sons also- Elmer (b. abt. 1882 KY) and Russel (b. abt. 1888 KY). The only clue I have is on the Bible pages, a child is listed as Maria M. HUNT. Could Matilda be Maria's middle name? I have yet to find her on the 1910 Census of that general area. Also, was she ever

married?

Bobby doesn't have any record of her marriage, at least not in Fleming County. And I haven't found a hint of her until these censuses.I will be more than happy to send you the copies of the Bible pages if

you would like, via e-mail, and what photos I have of tombstones. Just let me now, and hopefully you can help us with these mysteries!

Ann Ridout

ADD HUNT > Seth Alonzo HUNT > Jessie Steele HUNT > Mary Ellen ZEIGLER > Me!

From: "Annie 12345" | To: jwgrace99@ Subject: ADD HUNT Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 15:13:34 +0000

Hello John!Thanks for the quick response.As mentioned in my previous e-mail, I have the Bible pages that belonged to him.And photos of his and his wife's tombstone.

Here goes my info:

Absalom Daniel David HUNT b. 13 June 1814 Fleming CO. KY married Malinda Dailey, dau. of John and Louvisa Buckley Dailey, on 7 June 1838 in Fleming Co KY(Fleming CO KY Bond Book A, page 74)

Malinda was born 18 June 1821

ADD Died 17 Mar 1898 in Fleming CO. KY and is buried in the Hargett-Royse Cemetery in FLeming Co.Malinda died 2 Apr 1900 and is buried right beside him. Tombstone photos attached.

He did not have any other wives.

Their children:(names spelled as written in Bible)

Malissa H. HUNT b. 21 Oct 1839

Teresa Ann Ermaine HUNT b. 11 Dec 1841

John W.O. HUNT b. 9 Nov 1844

Joseph A. HUNT b. 4 May 1848

Maria M. HUNT b. 10 Aug 1850

Sarah Mae HUNT b. 29 May 1854

Seth Aloonzo HUNT b. 29 Oct 1859

In doing research in Morgan Co KY, where ADD owned land, there is a record of a birth and death of an un-named female infant born to ADD and Malinda. Dates are b. 22 Jan 1853, d. 26 Jan 1853.

This family is found on the following censuses:

1850 Morgan CO. KY Household # 218

1870 Fleming CO KY, Hillsboro pct. Household #148

1880 Fleming CO KY Hillsboro pct. 217-219

ADD is age 66, Malinda age 58.

The Absalom Hunt that married Mary Rawlings & Minerva Vanlandingham is a different Absalom than this one.

I am taking the Bible pages, the Marriage Bond, and their tombstones as proof. Since Malinda out-lived ADD, it is doubtful ADD was married before.

Malissa HUNT married James H. DAYLEY 30 Mar 1870

Teresa HUNT married Edmund Price LEWIS 30 Dec 1859

Joseph A. HUNT married Martha J. TINLEY 6 Jun 1881

Sarah HUNT married Gerard H. CONDON 29 Dec 1870

Seth HUNT married Ellen Elizabeth CONDON 29 Oct 1859 (Gerard & Ellen CONDON were bro. & sister)

This same Bible was passed onto Seth HUNT and family with more info recorded for their children. Their daughter, Ethel Linda HUNT DENTON inherited it next. I found it after my grandmother, Jessie HUNT ZEIGLER passed away in 1987 in her personal belongings.I'll keep looking for Isabell and Matilda. If you would like copies of these Bible pages, let me know. I'll be more than happy to mail them to you.

Take care & have a great weekend!Ann Ridout

To: jwgrace99@ Subject: hello again! Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:50:31 -0400 From: curlygirl60@ |

Hi John, If you don't mind, send me your addy and I'll mail those copies to you. Some of it is written in pencil and shows up better on actual paper than when I scan it and send.

As far Linda's middle intial on the census, she sometimes reversed her name from Ethel Linda to Linda Ethel. Heck, on her marriage bond she states her name as Ethel Malinda HUNT. Go figure.

Thanks for the Tinsley info, too. And I agree....writting OVER a name???? Geezles! No wonder I searched in vain. It's good to have a hint of a starting point!

The marriage date for Seth and Ellen is 6 Jan 1881 in Rowan Co KY. Thats where Ellen was living with her parents, Redman S. & Hannah Condon. I discovered them on the 1870 Rowan Co. KY Census, 133A-47, with Elizabeth being 8 years old (Ellen Elizabeth Condon born 7 Oct 1861).

On the subject of Rev. HUNT, my info is scant at best, and actually you've given me his full name! I found the same date on LDS, but their info on the dates I have is so-so for my line of the family. But it does help to give you a starting point. I agree with you tho, sounds as if your ggrandfather was named after the man. It was so common in this family to keep using the same names over & over!

But that's what keeps me hooked to genealogy. If it was easy, everyone would do it!

I'd say that Bobby Hunt has more info on the question than I do. Have you asked him? He sent me his info on Rev. Reuben, but it's not complete. I imagine he has gathered info since last year. He's been such a big help to me.

Take care, and thanks again. Hope to keep talking!Ann Ridout

From: "Gobel and Anita" To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: Boggs, Whitt and others Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:20:20 -0400

JohnI glad to know I didn't confuse you with all my Boggs lines, I get confused often. I live in Elliott Co. KY and I go to Grayson several times a week, so if you ever need any help just let me know. You wrote early about Fields and Deboard's, well Eveline Fields married Mathias Russell which you already know. Eveline's father was James Fields born ca. 1817 KY or VA, he is our brickwall. James married Mary "Polly" Deboard 22 June 1835 in Lawrence Co. KY and Mary's father Joseph Deboard give consent for the marriage. Joseph Deboard was from Wilkes Co. NC his wife was Martha Prince. I believe that Jeptha and Ira Debord/Debord were most likely Joseph's nephew. I hope I haven't bored you to much and I had better go.ThanksAnita

From: "Mary Littleton" | To: "John W Grace" Subject: Re:Carpenters Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:46:10 -0400

R A Carpenter had a daughter Anna who married Henry Watterson Hillman. Watt Hillman was also in the limestone business in the Lawton area. My mother boarded with them when she was a young teacher at Lawton.

Mother also told me the at June Ross was part of the Carpenter family and there was a second Ross child which slips my mind. Could it have been Bunny Ross? This is a decendent of R A Carpenter.

Accord to George Wolfford's book, R A Carpenter was born in Wolfe Co., KY. Do you have that information? I met a couple from CA at the Carter Co Courthouse within the last 10 years who were interested in the Carpenters. We talked briefly about my interest in the family and I never did persue a correspondence with them. It wouldn't happen to have been you? The marriage license of my grandfather Warren Steele listed R A Carpenter as his father. His mother died at child birth and he was raised by his Steele grandparents. A marriage license has never been found so I believe they were never married. If you ever run across any information I would like to learn more of the Carpenter family. I'm sure someone else provide you with more info. Good luck in your search. Mary Littleton

From: "Mary Littleton" | To: "John W Grace" Subject: Re:Carpenters Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:43:18 -0400

Thank you for verifying that Addie was Anna sister. The Hillmans had one more son Jim probably born in 1930. He still lives in Olive Hill.

My grandfather, Jesse Warren Steele, was born in 1877. This probably was before he married and had his family. (I could be wrong) Warnie's mother was Laura Steele, daughter of Dr. John H. Steele of Olive Hill. The family seemed to remember that Dr. Steele didn't think R. A. was "good enough" to marry his daughter. So there was a child and Dr. Steele lost his daughter during or following its birth. So the story goes. My family was very tight liped about this matter. Dr. Steele raised Warnie. R A became very successful and certainly proved the doctor wrong in that respect.

Not until I found Warren's second marriage license did Mother know who his father was. Then she said that explained events 60+ years earlier when R A stopped her on the streets of Olive Hill and gave her some money. Anna also told her that it wouldn't hurt if R A helped mother and her sisters more often.

This doesn't need to be shared with the family. I don't want to hurt anyone. I would love to have insight into the situation if you should ever be informed. The one picture of R A in a Carter Co History book made me do a double take. Warnie resembled RA a great deal. Thanks,Mary Littleton

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT)

From: "jeff roe" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Subject: Homer Counts

To: "John Grace"

Hi John,good to hear from you,,Thanks for the Counts file..Most of what I know about Homer Counts is from family,,he was born June 28, 1894 in Carter Co,Ky. and died June 1972 Tenn,,the death I found on SSDI ,,He retired from military and lived somewhere down south,,My father Homer Cecil Roe remembers him coming home at Counts Cross Roads until his father ,George died in 1947,,I guess no one heard from him after that..My aunt has a photo of him when she gets time to find it,,I don't know if he had siblings or was married..My great Uncle Henry Counts would probably know,,he is Homers half brother and still going strong at 95..

Can you read PAF files??if so I can send a PAF,,

hope to hear from you soon,Jeffrey W. Roe

P.S. Great job your doing on the Carter Co,Website.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:08:58 -0700 (PDT)

From: "jeff roe" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Subject: Re: Homer Counts photo

To: "John Grace"

Hi John,yes I would love to share research,,I don't have much on Ross.Do you know what happened to Eunice Ross?or any genealogy on her?Grandpa George Christopher Counts was married 4 times,,Elizabeth "Lizzie"Easterling b.Oct.9,1871 near Stinson Carter Co,Ky. was my ggrandmother she died Jan 4,1914 of typhoid fever,,and buried in the Easterling Cemetary,Carter Co,Ky

George Christopher Counts(b.5-16-1866 and d.3-16-1947) was the son of John Samuel Counts( 11-14-1829 Va.and d.1-6-1892 Carter Co,Ky)and Mary Ann Rucker(b.2-16-1834 and d.12-31-1892) ....John Samuel Counts was the son of Phillip Counts (b.5-11-1796 in Glade Hollow,Russell Co,Va. and died 6-6-1881 in Carter Co,Ky.)and Julia Gose(b.9-11-1793 Glade Hollow,Russell,Co. Va.and d.8-3-1853 Carter Co,Ky.

Hope to hear from you soon,,Jeffrey W.Roe

John Grace wrote:

Jeffrey, thanks for responding to my posting. My area of greatest interest is the Ross family of Carter County. I have also maintained a Counts chart for several years, but have never been able to place Eunice Ross's husband on it, I had him as George W. Counts, but I imagine George Chistopher must be correct. I do have a George Counts who is the son of John Samuel Counts and Mary Ann Rucker. Is this your line?

I guess we must be cousins, of sorts. Eunice Ross's father, Reuben Fletcher Ross, was my great grandfather's brother. His name was Jeremiah Jacob Hunt Ross. Over the last several years I have been in regular contact with other Carter County descendants of this line, and have accumulated a number of old photos of Reuben and his family. Reuben had 7 daughters who all died young, so all his stuff went to his son Harlan. Harlan never married, so when he died, the old photos, furniture and things like that went to his cousins. June Ross is the last of this line in Carter County to still carry the Ross name. June is the grandaughter of David Johnson Ross. He was Reuben and Jeremiah's brother. I visited with June in mid-August. She has always been really helpful to me, and is one of my favorite people.

If you're interested, I'd love to share research with you.

John W. Grace

Oakland, Ca.

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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Don & Ellen Holcomb" | Subject: Re: Jackson County genealogy posting. To: "John Grace"

WOW !!!!! How great !Thank you so much for your response and all the information included in your email. I am sure of the connection because I had Jessie A. and Almira already.

If you're interested, there were 7 girls and 2 boys born to Conkle (John Conklin) Holcomb and Charlotte L. (Lottie) Brown. One of which was Jessie. There were no children of Conkle and Almira Smith, BUT...... I suspect she brought one son, a "Will Smith" with her hen she married Conkle. He is listed on one of the cencus forms. (can't remember which year right now - probably 1880)

Maybe Geradine can help me out with some of the other Holcomb sisters? Do you think she would mind if I called her? If you thing it would be OK, maybe you could forewarn her that I would be calling so she wouldn't think I was some crackpot just throwing out names?

Thanks again and if you would like more info on the Holcomb tree, or anyone in another more closely associated branch of your tree, I would be happy to share all I have.

Do you know anything about Lester, Lottie or Edgar Yerian ?????Don Holcomb

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Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 13:25:23 -0500 From: "Brian L" | To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: McClease-McGlone charts

John, just FYI, I'll be at the McGlone Creek Reunion this Sunday around noon or so with my dad, David Litteral, and my new-found cousin, Bill Litteral (son of Ambrose Litteral). If you're there, look for us: my dad is heavy-set, about 5'10" and wears glasses (65 yrs old), Bill is about 75 yrs old (don't know what he looks like), and I'm the whippersnapper of the trio: 40 yrs old, 6' tall, husky, brown hair, blue eyes (photo attached, if that helps).

You can reach me via cell phone at (630) 853-6900 if you want. We're just coming down for the afternoon (Bill is from South Shore, KY; dad is from Indy; and I'm from Chicago.) I hope to see you there.

-Brian

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From: "Gary Duke" | To: jwgrace99@ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:55:07 EST Subject: Olive Ross

John,Well another year has gone by and I am still trying to get the information on Olive Ross' descendants. Hopefully, I have made a little more progress. We went to the Shook reunion this year and two of her daughters were there. We got a better email address for Julia - jdickens99@ (I found it interesting that you both have a "99" in your email addresses)

I mentioned that you were trying to contact someone on the Ross side.Also, we asked her to fill out some family group sheets for us which she agreed to do. If/when I get that, I'll pass it along.

BTW, when you get a chance, can you send me your line and I will add it in for her.Gary

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From: "John Donohew" | To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: my- descendancy Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:13:49 -0400

John, Of course you were correct on the entry for Sarah and her children Nellie and Leslie. I can't blame anyone else since it was me who transcribed the erroneous entry. I also made an error in the 1880 census listing for Matthias Jarvis and his family. I saw the entry for David Ross and his wife Sarah in that H/H but when I entered it into my computer I entered Mary for David's wife. Mary was of course Sarah's mother. I will correct my site tomorrow.

I could not open the attachment you sent with the email reproduced below. Outlook Express would not allow me to open it. Was this the information on the Ross family that you mention?

I understand that you are now the coordinator for the Carter Co. Rootsweb Site. I have transcribed the entire 1960 Carter Co. KY census and have it in two spreadheets in Lotus 123. One spreadsheet has the census in the order it on the microfilm and the other has is alphabetized by surname. The latter one has all heads of household and many others whose surnames differed from that of the H/H. I woould like to share this information by including it on the Carter Co. site. Perhaps you can tell me how to go about this. John.

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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:42:52 -0500 From: "Brian L" | To: "John Grace" Subject: Re: McClease-McGlone charts

Sorry we missed eachother. Maybe next year. I got to meet my long lost cousin Bill Litteral. Carl McGlone gave him a tour of the old Litteral homestead just last week. He's going to try and videotape the location and make copies for my dad and myself. If all goes well, I'm going to take a metal detector down next year and just go fishing on the old homestead and see what we turn up.

Speaking of gravestones, I took photos of most of the stones in the McGlone Creek Cemetery. Do you think that I could send them to someone so that they could link the images to the entries in the cemetery survey? I'd be glad to edit the page myself if it was in some format other than PDF. This way people could actually see the picture of the stone when they click on the link for that entry.Take care,Brian

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From: Reneehall63@ | Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:45:14 EDT Subject: a bit more Myrl Campbell info To: jwgrace99@

Hi John...i didnt know if you are checking the boyd county board often.. this was the response i got when i asked for an enumeration of the Bellmonte Gardens cemetary. It looks as if Myrl was burried near family..at least in the same cemetary. The Earl Cambell listed is the only one i can place immediately with a quick search of the files.. he was James Milton Campbells son. Im sure the others will turn up in the family tree as well. Hopefully this provides you with burial info you needed for your research as well.

Renee

Here are the readings. However, *usually* the first bit of data (reading number) indicates the order in which the graves were read. This would give you an idea, though not guarantee that the graves were in the same proximity.

In the case of Bellefonte though, I was just now noticing that the numbers are assigned in several groups, alphabetically. Almost as though a particular area was read, sorted by surname, and THEN the numbers assigned. Then the next area was processed the same way. So from my data, I don't think your question would be answered. Here is what I can give you by reading number:

71 Callihan Emily 1913-????

72 Callihan Gary Lee 11/06/1950-12/02/1950

73 Campbell Fanny 1904-????

74 Campbell Ray 1894-1976

75 Campbell Earl 1901-1974

76 Campbell Wilma 1907-????

77 Campbell Myri 1906-1968

78 Caniff Alphonso 12/20/1897-10/11/1971

79 Caniff Issle Lester 09/01/1898-????

This 'block' of graves goes from #4 to #514, before it starts over with "A" names again. So if you have other surnames you are questioning, I'll be happy to see if they are in the same group of readings.

The other thought I had is that you might try calling the Bellefonte office and just ask them who is buried right there. When I visited that cemetery, they were wonderfully helpful.

By the way, in the whole cemetery, there was only one other Campbell enumerated. It was:

585 Campbell Robert Russell 08/18/1888-08/14/1969

LuAnne

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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:25:53 EDT

Subject: Re: Myrls death cert and SS app

To: jwgrace99@

Hi again...

Iwill make sure that your name does not go out with any file i send in the future. I apologize if it has gone to anyone already... although..i do not recall your name coming across in any of the files i have shared..you are the first person i have shared the campbell notes with.

I too and a huge fan of documents hehehehe they almost make me giddy. I have been trying to get everything i have scanned. I have soooooo many old photos from my family in Carter county as well as many many letters...old news paper articles...just so much and i seem to keep accumulating more. I scan a little each day trying to get it all done. I just found a great picture of a plane crash in Olive Hill from about 1945.

Thanks for the hint about the cemetary. The cemetary is listed as Belle. Mem. Gardens... i am not familiar with that one... i will find it though =)

I am going to try to head back down in August for the Picklesimer reunion ( keeping my fingers crossed anyway)

Are you collecting photos of just your family? If you just like old photos from Carter county i have a few you may like... including the plane crash lol.

lemme know

have a good one

Renee

From: Reneehall63@ | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:40:49 EDT

Subject: Re: old photos

To: jwgrace99@

Hiya...

absolutely it is ok to put the documents on the site. I do have a few photos on there that i have contributed...enterprise school...photos of grandparents and great great grandparents.

I have several death certificates and some marriage bonds.. i will gather up some stuff and send to you.. you can add them to the site or to your own collection or both.

Expect a few emails from me in the next day or so lol.

Renee

From: "Jackie May" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

To: jwgrace99@

Subject: Cemetery Form

Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:36:48 -0400

Hi John,

I've done my own family tree, Salmons/Sammons, for a few years now

and this summer I've been visiting various cemeteries around the eastern

half of the county. I was wondering how to get a copy of the form you use

on the website. I noticed that someone on the message list was looking for

information on the Fairview Cemetery at Hitchins and I am planning to go up

there tomorrow, Monday, or Tuesday and can write down what information

you need while I'm there if your interested. I really love the way the site

is set up, it's very user friendly with lots of information.

Thanks, Jackie May

ps Do you know if anyone has a listing for all the tombstones at the East

Carter County Memory Gardens?

Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:10:02 -0400

From: "Jim Columbia" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: [Pollitt genealogy]

Hello John -

I am somewhat confident of the information I have, although I believe

we are

probably talking about the same person. I have a feeling his name was

William

Orville Applegate (or some variation of that), but have not been able

to

confirm it. The information I have comes from several sources,

including an

obituary of Lula's brother Clarence, and from her great-nephew Bob

Pollitt.

All references I have to this person show him as William except for

their

marriage certificate, which shows him as "Orval."

I did not have any information about his lineage, but I do have a

listing in

our records for a John Thomas Applegate who was born c. 1873 (possibly

Sept.

20th), and whose father was William M. Applegate. Could this be the

same James

Thomas? If so, that would connect another line for me.

Jim Columbia

From: DeanHickmn@ | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:50:55 EDT

Subject: Re: Cunningham

To: jwgrace99@

In a message dated 7/27/2003 11:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, jwgrace99@ writes:

Subj:Re: Cunningham

Date:7/27/2003 11:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time

From:jwgrace99@

To:DeanHickmn@

Sent from the Internet

Dean, thanks for keeping in touch. I really appreciated the Barry Cunningham obit.

I notice that the Jackson Co. web site hasn't been updated in a long, long time. Maybe someone should volunteer to take it on.

I'll be in Jackson in August and hope to get sone good snaps with my new digital camera.

Talk to you later,

John

All interest in genealogy on the different web sites has waned since 9/11.

Charles Weese seems to look at his websites sporadically.

I know we have had our share of health problems since last October when I wrecked the old Caravan. Mommy had detached retina surgery Dec 2001 followed by cataract surgery in late March of this year. She is better now. Someone in church has had cataract surgery lately too. Gordon Magill hasn't been responding much lately. He has depression in the winter time. Addie Hickman is not feeling good (she is in her 80s). Robert Frey over in Pike County died last August. Howard Nichols has Lou Gehrig's Disease. Another relative broke her arm last year. So the last year has been rather traumatic for folks.

It is only within the last month or so that I have been able to get out and do some research again..

From: Reneehall63@ | This is spam | Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:45:14 EDT

Subject: a bit more Myrl Campbell info

To: jwgrace99@

Hi John...i didnt know if you are checking the boyd county board often.. this was the response i got when i asked for an enumeration of the Bellmonte Gardens cemetary. It looks as if Myrl was burried near family..at least in the same cemetary. The Earl Cambell listed is the only one i can place immediately with a quick search of the files.. he was James Milton Campbells son. Im sure the others will turn up in the family tree as well. Hopefully this provides you with burial info you needed for your research as well.

Renee

Here are the readings. However, *usually* the first bit of data (reading number) indicates the order in which the graves were read. This would give you an idea, though not guarantee that the graves were in the same proximity.

In the case of Bellefonte though, I was just now noticing that the numbers are assigned in several groups, alphabetically. Almost as though a particular area was read, sorted by surname, and THEN the numbers assigned. Then the next area was processed the same way. So from my data, I don't think your question would be answered. Here is what I can give you by reading number:

71 Callihan Emily 1913-????

72 Callihan Gary Lee 11/06/1950-12/02/1950

73 Campbell Fanny 1904-????

74 Campbell Ray 1894-1976

75 Campbell Earl 1901-1974

76 Campbell Wilma 1907-????

77 Campbell Myri 1906-1968

78 Caniff Alphonso 12/20/1897-10/11/1971

79 Caniff Issle Lester 09/01/1898-????

This 'block' of graves goes from #4 to #514, before it starts over with "A" names again. So if you have other surnames you are questioning, I'll be happy to see if they are in the same group of readings.

The other thought I had is that you might try calling the Bellefonte office and just ask them who is buried right there. When I visited that cemetery, they were wonderfully helpful.

By the way, in the whole cemetery, there was only one other Campbell enumerated. It was:

585 Campbell Robert Russell 08/18/1888-08/14/1969

LuAnne

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:20:29 -0500

From: "Brian L" | This is spam | Add to Address Book

To: "John Grace"

Subject: Re: KyCarter Cemetary listing

Are you going to the McGlone Creek Reunion? As you may already now, it's on the second Sunday in August at Kibbey Chapel on McGlone Creek Road (just a little north of McGlone Creek Cemetery and the Davis Family Cemetery). I've gone the last two years but I'm doubtful that I'm going to make it this year.

Just FYI, I have the following McClease/McGlone marriages.

Descendants of Eliza Ellen McClease

1 Eliza Ellen McClease b: Abt. 1856 in KY (said that her parents were born in KY as well) d: WFT Est. 1878-1971

.. +William Preston McGlone b: 1847 in KY (see notes) m: July 01, 1877 d: WFT Est. 1891-1939

........ 2 WIlliam Cephus McGlone b: July 30, 1876 in KY

............ +Hattie Davis b: in KY

........ 2 Samuel F. McGlone b: Abt. 1878 in KY d: WFT Est. 1911-1971

Descendants of Frances Ann McClease

1 Frances Ann McClease b: Abt. 1841 in KY d: Aft. 1881

.. +Joseph Harvey McGlone b: January 18, 1839 in Carter Co, Ky m: March 13, 1862 in Carter Co, Ky d: December 29, 1900 in Carter Co, Ky (Buried near Frank McGlone's house on McGlone creek)

........ 2 Henry Washington McGlone b: 1862 in Carter Co, Ky d: Aft. February 24, 1901 in Carter Co, Ky

............ +Martha Ann Kibbey b: January 16, 1864 m: May 13, 1885 d: February 19, 1900

........ *2nd Wife of Henry Washington McGlone:

............ +Emma Burton b: 1877 m: February 24, 1901 d: October 04, 1933

........ 2 Melvina McGlone b: 1866 d: April 06, 1959 in Carter Co, Ky

............ +George Masters b: WFT Est. 1849-1869 m: WFT Est. 1894-1928 d: WFT Est. 1894-1955

........ 2 Benjamin Franklin McGlone b: November 11, 1869 d: December 06, 1950 in Carter Co, Ky

............ +Laura Kibbey b: August 22, 1877 m: Aft. 1891 d: May 03, 1937

........ 2 Danice McGlone b: 1874 d: WFT Est. 1875-1968

........ 2 Daniel Boone McGlone b: January 17, 1876 in Carter Co, Ky (gravestone says 1875) d: October 1973 in buried in the McGlone Creek Cemetary, Carter Co., KY

............ +Myrtle Frazier b: 1885 in Floyd Co., KY m: Abt. 1903 d: 1958

........ *2nd Wife of Daniel Boone McGlone:

............ +Mary Wolford b: WFT Est. 1871-1891 m: WFT Est. 1906-1940 d: WFT Est. 1906-1975

........ 2 Robert Harvey McGlone b: November 09, 1880 d: April 10, 1969 in Carter Co, Ky

............ +Leah D. (Ida) Wolford b: January 07, 1885 m: May 02, 1902 d: January 26, 1965

Descendants of Margaret F. McClease

1 Margaret F. McClease b: Abt. 1812 in KY (says her parents were born in PA) d: WFT Est. 1871-1929

.. +Robert H. McGlone b: October 01, 1805 in Carter Co, Ky m: March 28, 1834 in Greenuo Co, Ky d: WFT Est. 1868-1898

........ 2 Amanda Jane McGlone b: 1836 d: WFT Est. 1864-1930

............ +John Richards b: WFT Est. 1819-1839 m: WFT Est. 1864-1898 d: WFT Est. 1864-1925

........ *2nd Husband of Amanda Jane McGlone:

............ +Charles Patton b: WFT Est. 1819-1839 m: WFT Est. 1864-1898 d: WFT Est. 1864-1925

........ 2 Mary J. McGlone b: 1837 d: WFT Est. 1865-1931

............ +Alfred (Al) Hall b: WFT Est. 1820-1840 m: WFT Est. 1865-1899 d: WFT Est. 1865-1926

........ 2 Daniel Matt McGlone b: 1838 in Greenup Co., KY d: 1856

........ 2 Sarah Melcinda McGlone b: 1840 d: 1905

............ +Eferman A. Simmons b: WFT Est. 1823-1843 m: WFT Est. 1868-1897 d: WFT Est. 1868-1929

........ 2 Margaret M. McGlone b: 1843 d: 1915

............ +Hezekiah (Kar) Hall b: November 03, 1842 m: WFT Est. 1871-1903 d: November 15, 1895 in Carter Co, Ky

........ 2 Martha McGlone b: 1844

........ 2 Rebecca McGlone b: Bef. 1855 d: WFT Est. 1884-1962

............ +Jessie Miller b: August 29, 1843 m: July 25, 1868 d: December 08, 1907

Descendants of Thomas McCleese

1 Thomas McCleese b: Bef. 1805 d: WFT Est. 1819-1908

.. +Elizabeth (Betsy) McGlone b: June 03, 1801 in VA m: November 13, 1818 d: August 12, 1819 in Carter Co Ky

........ 2 Child McCleese b: 1819 d: WFT Est. 1835-1913

Happy hunting,

Brian Litteral

From: Tdeford6@ | Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:38:16 EDT Subject: tHIS IS FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY/ NOT ANCESTRY, BUT STILL HIGH To: jwgrace99@

wHEN YOU GO TO THE PAgE JUST CLICK ON THE SS 5 letter Social Security Death Index Search Results

Social Security Administration

Office of Central Records Operations

Attention: FOIA Workgroup

P.O. Box 17772

300 N. Greene Street

Baltimore, Maryland 21290

Please send me a photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card (Form SS-5--Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy) filed by the person listed below.

I obtained this information from the Social Security Death Master file at , Inc. who obtained it from the Social Security Death Master file, originally compiled by the Social Security Administration.

My understanding is that the fee is $27, when the Social Security number is provided or $29 if the Social Security number is unknown or incorrect.

Enclosed is a check or money order for $___________, made payable to the Social Security Administration.

From: "Mary Littleton" | To: "John W Grace" Subject: Re:Carpenters Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:46:10 -0400

R A Carpenter had a daughter Anna who married Henry Watterson Hillman. Watt Hillman was also in the limestone business in the Lawton area. My mother boarded with them when she was a young teacher at Lawton.

Mother also told me the at June Ross was part of the Carpenter family and there was a second Ross child which slips my mind. Could it have been Bunny Ross? This is a decendent of R A Carpenter. Accord to George Wolfford's book, R A Carpenter was born in Wolfe Co., KY. Do you have that information? I met a couple from CA at the Carter Co Courthouse within the last 10 years who were interested in the Carpenters. We talked briefly about my interest in the family and I never did persue a correspondence with them. It wouldn't happen to have been you? The marriage license of my grandfather Warren Steele listed R A Carpenter as his father. His mother died at child birth and he was raised by his Steele grandparents. A marriage license has never been found so I believe they were never married. If you ever run across any information I would like to learn more of the Carpenter family.

I'm sure someone else provide you with more info. Good luck in your search. Mary Littleton

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From: "tssvol" | to: "John Grace" Subject: Re: re. 1920 census Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:13:13 -0400

Thank You..8-).

yes I have a long Campbell line...mine roamed the KY and Ohio area...Ironton..I have been there on several occasions doing research ...I stem from David Campbell to Thomas to Dora Campbell McClellan to Wanda McClellan Scott...My Scott line from my father's side stems from the marriage of Walter Scott who married Elizabeth Lunsford ...all from the Boyd County and Carter County area...I am stumped on the Scott line...cause seems that Walter disappeared not long after the birth of my grandfather John M Scott...in 1887..he was raised by a man named Thomas Lyon...he did not know that he was a Scott until he was well into his 30's...so I am guessing that there was a bad split between Lizzy and Walter...somehow I must be kin to Andrew J Scott...he was a witness for an pension affidavit filed by Martin Lunsford...Lizzy's father...my gggrandfather..

I will be sending more of the 1920 census in a few days...Teresa

Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:04:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Janet L.Orendorff" | Subject: Just a little more...for a new friend! To: "John Grace"

John, I am glad to here your Mother is doing well and that her and Jane keep in touch. Jane will be tickled to here about our chance encounter. My Husband Bob's father Robert J. Orendorff, Sr. was the Plant Manager for David Davies in those days, most of the Melfi family worked there at one time or another. Robert Sr. left David Davies to open his own business, Groom's Ice Cream Store. Later he went back into the meat business and became President of Ohio Steak and Barbecue, then after retiring he worked for the Franklin County Clerk of Courts, who at that time was Ted Hysell, he was best man at my in-laws wedding.

My husband Bob will be sixty four on October 9th and I just turned fifty four September 30th. During the David Davies days I was just a babe. However, over the years I was very close to my husbands parents, being so interested in their life's events, I could most likely write a fairly accurate book on their life, family and friends.

Bob and I met the year after I graduated high school, in 1968 and married December 14, 1972, we have been married thirty one years. I retired in December, 1999 with thirty years service as a Chief Financial Officer for a political sub-division of the State of Ohio. That's when I caught the genealogy bug!

Actually, like yourself, I have long been interested in our family genealogy. I have, through out the years, helped my mother's brother and my Uncle Rev. Father Edward Vincent Curry keep our families records. In 1998 he retired giving me the family records; all hand written, scrolls, pictures, and documents. When I retired I converted everything to My Family Tree. Father Curry passed away in 2000 and my Mother, the last of her immediate family of seven, passed away in 2002, I miss them both very much.

By the way my husband's parents Robert J. and Lucile R. Orendorff lived in Forest Park on Ironwood Dr. for many years. Bob and I have a condominium in the Village at Deercreek in north Worthington, Ohio. So we are not far from your Mother, if you should come to town please give us a call, our number is 614-888-1600.

It has been a treat hearing from you, please stay in touch. Best Regards, Janet sent her 3 photos on 12/24/2003

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "eli mac" | Subject: Re: Fleming Jarvis To: "John Grace"

That is the right Fleming. Dates come from theirtombstones. He married Rebecca Phillips. The son'sname is Manson. Fleming is age 3 on the 1860 Censuswith his father MAthias Jarvis. 1880 Carter Co. Censuson the Carter Co. U.S. Gen Web site has 1880 censusand it says Fleming was age 23 and Rebecca age 20. Morrison L. age 2,is what they have on the census, hisname wasn't Morrison, that is wrong. I know censusrecords are really hard to read sometimes.I have foundlots of mistakes in ages on census records. Peopledidn't seem to get 10 yrs older. Also it is myunderstanding that census takers would stop in theneighbors yard if the next people weren't home and getthe info from them so the census is not correcteither. Also been told tombstones weren't alwaysbought at the time of death so there again you stilldon't have a correct date. Who knows, I try to keep itclose. Maybe I need to look at an original copy onmicrofilm to see if somebody has made a typingerror.Bought Microsoft word today and installed ittonight. Here is some of the files and death cert. Ihad.---

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|Gene ration | Grace | Ross |Campbell | Brown married | Fitzpatrick |Cramblit | Zornes |Davidson | Bunyan |

| |married |married |married | |married |married |married |married |married |

| 12 | | | | | | | | |Bentley 1627 |

| 11 | | | |Bunyan 1686 > | | | | |Brown |

| 10 | | | |Reinolds 1717 | | |Ruleman | | |

| 9 | | | | | | |Lewellyn > |Draper | |

| 8 |Lehr 1792| | |Davidson 1782 > | | |McCleese 1815 |Brown | |

| |> | | | | | | | | |

| 7 |Jones 1828 | |Zornes 1807 |Tabor 1833 >|Ogle 1821 |Carpenter ca1836 |Campbell | | |

| | | |> | | | | | | |

| 6 |Hart 1865 |Kinnamon 1839 |Brown 1854 >|Campbell |Holland 1861 > |Deem | | | |

| |> | | | | |1867 > | | | |

| 5 |Haynes > |Campbell 1875 |Ross | |Cramblit 1888 > |Fitzpatrick | | | |

| | |> | | | | | | | |

| 4 |Spicer 1917 > |Fitzpatrick 1921 | | |Ross | | | | |

| | |> | | | | | | | |

| 3 |Ross 1942 >|Grace | | | | | | | |

| 2 |Teferra 1988 > | | | | | | | | |

| 1 | J. T. Grace | | | | | | | | |

|Generation | Markley |Waltz | Zircke | Weighley |Mock married |Nicely |Kraft |Spicer married|Hart |

| |married |married |married |married | |married |married | |married |

| 11 |Hess | |Hirtzel 1672 | | | | | | |

| |1678 | | | | | | | | |

| 10 |Dinkle 1709 | | | | | | | | |

| 9 | |Welk | | | | |Kusein 1746 | |Von Erden 1750 |

| 8 |Weighly > |Mock |Meyer |Kraft 1767 |Walz |Heinkle |Weighley | |Hite |

| | | | |> |1764 | | | | |

| 7 |Kurtz ca1812 | |Circle |Markley |Whissinger ca1797 |Circle/Zirckel 1798 | | |Nicely 1825 |

| | | | | | |> | | |> |

| 6 |Mock | | | |Markley |Hart | | Haines / Hayes |Grace |

| | | | | |1839 > | | |> | |

| 5 | | | | |Haily | | | Mock 1885 | |

| | | | | |1865 | | |> | |

| 4 | | | | | | | |Grace | |

|Generation | Lehr |Custer |Holland married|Deem |Banks/Burk married |Lewellyn |Tabor |Womack |Teferra |

| |married |married | |married | |married |married |married |Tadessa |

| | | | | | | | | |married |

| 15 | |Walburgis 1598 | | | | | | | |

| 14 | |Von Haren 1629 | | | | | | | |

| 13 | |Streyphers 1668 | | | | | | | |

| 12 | | | | | | |Burton | | |

| | | | | | | |1693 | | |

| 11 | |Adams 1713| | | | |Stoval |Scravton | |

| 10 | |Malone | |Bruenig ca1753 | |Oldacre 1762/63 |Womack > |Tabor | |

| 9 |Custer ca1759 >|Lehr | |Fought/Foughty | |Zornes |Fraley | | |

| 8 |Grace | | |Deem 1814| | |Beckelhyme | | |

| | | | | | | |1811 | | |

| 7 | | | |Turvey |Pugh 1807 | |Brown | | |

| 6 | | |Banks 1833 > |Cramblit |Holland | | | | |

| 5 | | |Fitzpatrick | | | | | | |

| 4 | | | | | | | | | |

| 3 | | | | | | | | |Desta |

| 2 | | | | | | | | |Grace |

|Generation |Haynes |McClease |

| |married |married |

| 11 | | |

| 10 | |McKaster |

| 9 | |Morningstar |

| | |1798 |

| 8 | |Zornes 1815 |

| 7 |Clark | |

| 6 |Benson | |

| |1857 | |

Our Family Birthday Calendar

|January |February |March |April |May |June |July |August |September |October |November |December |

|6, 1952 |5, 1918 |1, 1843 Reuben|2, 1998 |4, 1877 |4, 1934 |8, 1953 |4, 1976 |7, 1822 |1, 1985 |1, 1955 |5, 1876 |

|Denice |Isabelle Ross|Fletecher Ross|Elizabeth |Elza Jones |Phylus Ann |Monte Joe |Heather |Abraham Stout |Scott David |Martin Ross |Clifton Scott |

|Beckley Ross|Henson |s/o J. N. |Boyer |h/o |Black Ross |Ross |Renee |f/o Carrie Belle|Haldeman | |Ross |

| | |Ross | |Emma Ross | | |Hastler |Stout Clapper | | | |

| | | | | | | | | | | |s/o J. J. |

| | | | | | | | | | | |Ross |

| |8, 1893 |2, 1895 |4, 1964 |7, 1948 |9, 1840 |8, 1888 |15, 1965 |8, 1911 |10, 1819 |6, 1841 | |

|7, 1982 |Bertha Ross |Ethel Ross |Gail Long |Wayne David |John P. Ross|Arty Tennant|Anthony |Kennith O. Ross |Nancy J. |David Johnson |16, 1975 |

|Heather |Hartley |Lewis | |Henson |s/o |Ross |Silvani |s/o Clift S. |Kinnamon Ross |Ross |Joshua Henson |

|Ross |d/o Jeremiah |d/o Jeremiah | | |J. N. Ross | | |Ross | |s/o J. N. Ross | |

|d/o M J Ross|Jacob Ross |Jacob Ross | | | | | | | | | |

| | | | |7, 1915 |10, 1843 | | |8, 1980 |12, 1895 |6, 1854 |13, 1818 |

|16 , 1901 |9, 1943 |5, 1916 |7, 1922 |Robert W. |Louisa |9, 1990 |19, 1944 |John J Henson |Troy Grizzell |George Randolph |John Nelson |

|Bill Ross |John Wesley |Geraldine |Betty Ross |Tulga |Offill Ross |Grant Evan |Karen Ross | |b/o Charlotte |Ross |Ross |

|s/o Jeremiah|Grace |Yerian Ross |Tulga |b/o Paul |w/o |Haldeman |Brown | |Grizzell Ross |s/o J. N. Ross | |

|Ross | | | |Tulga |John P. Ross| | | | | | |

| | | | | | | | | | |9, 1977 | |

|16 , 1921 | |12, 1911 |9, 1858 |9, 1968 Ted|12, 1972 |25, 1869 |15, 1922 |11, 1956 |22, 1856 |Jennifer Henson |22, 1870 |

|Marguerite | |Alice Jones |Ira ‘Hot’ |Ray Warner |Tracy Henson|Emory Allen |Delores |Meskerem Teferra|Jeremiah Jacob | |Ransom Clapper|

|Lewis Ross | |d/o Emma Ross |Moore | | |“Bunt” Ross |Ross d/o| |Hunt Ross | |f/o Anna |

| | |Jones |h/o Katherine | | |s/o George |Charles M.| | |9, 1952 |Clapper Tulga |

| | | |Amanda Ross | | |Randolph |Ross | | |Terry Himes Ross| |

| | | | | | |Ross | | | | | |

|17, 1957 | |15, 1947 |10, 1988 | |17, 1940 | | |12, 1939 |25, 1917 |15, 1930 |24, 1889 |

|Michael | |Dee Dee Ross |John Teferra |17, 1848 |Kenneth Burl| | |Erla Ross Wilson|Paul Tulga |Charles Edward |Talma |

|Dempsey Ross| |Hastler |Grace |Austin Ross |Long | | | | |Himes |Fitzpatrick |

| | | | |s/o | | | | | |f/o Terry Himes |Ross |

| | | | |J. N. Ross | | | | | |Ross | |

|24, 1923 | |26, 1860 |14, 1846 Mary|19, 1961 |23, 1949 | | |14, 1992 | | | |

|Rose Mary | |Sarah Alice |Deem Cramblit |Tammy Evans |John William| | |Seth Jacob | |17, 1915 | |

|Martin Ross | |Campbell Ross | |Ross |Henson | | |Silvani | |Wayne Ross | |

|28, 1993 | |28, 1864 | |26, 1981 |23, 1913 | | |15, 1925 | |17, 1859 | |

|Taylor | |Adolphus |15, 1856 |Derek Ross |Elba Ross | | |Frank Ross | |Alice Ross Cline| |

|Elizabeth | |Fitzpatrick |Tom Cramblit |Hastler |s/o Clifton | | | | |d/o John N. Ross| |

|Zavitz | | | | |S. Ross | | | | | | |

| | | |21, 1836 |28, 1918 | | | |17, 1852 | | | |

|30, 1961 | |28 |John A. |John H. |24, 1981 | | |Rachel Ross | |21, 1983 | |

|Mark Ross | |Stephanie |Fitzpatrick |Henson |Korrie | | |Jarvis | |Lathisha Dawn | |

| | |Brown DeClue |f/o Adolphus | |Henson | | | | |Boyer | |

| | | |Fitzpatrick | | | | | | | | |

|31, 1992 | | | | | | | |21, 1956 | |21, 1997 | |

|Bethany | | | |29, 1941 Kay|24, 1889 | | |Paula R. Tulga | |Michael Allen | |

|Sarah Boyer | | |24, 1891 |Ross Long |William L. | | |Haldeman | |Ross | |

| | | |Dempsey Ross | |Tulga | | | | |s/o Timothy Ross| |

| | | | | |f/o Paul | | | | | | |

| | | | | |Tulga | | | | | | |

|31, 1996 | | |30, 1846 |30, 1872 |30, 1929 | | |26, 1888 | |25, 1845 | |

|Sarah | | |Mary E. Rice |Margaret |Bobby Ross | | |Harry Clyde | |Theresa Offill | |

|Catherine | | |Ross |Cramblit | | | |Hickman | |Ross | |

|Silvani | | |w/o Geo. R. |w/o Adolphus| | | |h/o Ethel Ross | |w/o Rueben F. | |

| | | |Ross |Fitzpatrick | | | | | |Ross | |

| | | | | |30, 1994 | | |28, 1880 | |29,1891 | |

| | | | | |Melissa | | |Emma Jane Ross | |Lottie Grizzell | |

| | | | | |Silvani | | |Jones d/o | |Ross w/o| |

| | | | | | | | |Jeremiah J. | |Dempsey Ross | |

| | | | | | | | |Ross | | | |

| | | | | | | | | | | | |

| | | | | | | | | | |30, 1954 | |

| | | | | | | | | | |James Daniel | |

| | | | | | | | | | |Haldeman | |

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