Thu Jan 27 12:58:41 2005
13:00 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:01 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:01 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:01 Loretta Driskel
cannot hear you over the music
13:01 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:01 Boise State University
Please up the volume?
13:02 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:06 Oxford College iPad
hi.
13:07 Boston College
hi
13:07 Wayne State University
Hello, iPad.
13:08 Troy @ Keuka
Hey Jim - Keuka
13:09 Roxann Riskin
HI Jin!
13:10 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
support
13:10 Todd Conaway
faculty support
13:10 Willie Miller (IUPUI)
Library Faculty
13:10 Susan Fowler
Librarian
13:10 Elissa
Librarian
13:10 Chase
technology consultant
13:10 Jim Hilker - Keuka college
Hi Troy
13:10 Rhonda Altonen
Library Faculty
13:10 Paula Jones
Instructional Designer
13:10 Lauren
faculty technology consultant
13:10 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
systems analyst
13:10 Damon Blythe
Technology Specialist
13:10 South Dakota State University - J. Lurvey
4 here, mixed
13:10 Thomas La Foe
Instructional Technology Specialist
13:11 Jason Bengtson
Librarian
13:11 Michelle Papajohn
Director of Enterprise Systems
13:11 Camille Fangue
Technology Support Services
13:11 Chip at IUPUI
library technology director
13:11 american university
IT
13:11 Michigan Tech University
librarian
13:11 indra canagaratna
Librarian
13:11 Thomas La Foe
Not scary
13:11 Mia Massicotte
Mia Massicotte, Librarian
13:11 hongbo@Ryerson University
Application Development
13:11 D. Amos (SATX)
Telecommunications Analyst
13:11 Thomas La Foe
Cool
13:11 Barbara
Barbara Library
13:12 Pamela Gades
Instructional Technology Specialist, University of Minnesota, Morris
13:12 Willie George
4 faculty, 6 IT staff
13:12 Robin Ashford
wow, great to see so many librarians and library admin
13:12 Willie George
was the text messaging stat US or global?
13:12 Debbie Malcangi 4
Michigan State University, several support staff
13:13 Tabitha Washburn - Union University Germantown
7 faculty, 1 IT staff
13:13 Jim Bouse
Gotta love people that text and ride bicyles at the same time. See it all over campus. :-)
13:14 Sam
accidents and smartphones
13:14 Loretta Driskel
Loretta Driskel, Instructional Technologist, Johnson & Wales University, Denver- 20 faculty & staff combined
13:15 Wayne State University
handful of IT staff here.
13:15 Debbie Malcangi 4
Wayne State: Is Nick DeNardis among you?
13:15 Willie George
What percent of that 4.2B txt messagers are in the USA?
13:15 Adam
Texting while riding a bike? Egad!
13:15 Thomas La Foe
I'm in the Library at Mississippi State. In the Instructional Media Center.
13:15 Pamela Giles
25%
13:15 Wayne State University
Nick isn't with our group here, no. I don't know for certain he's not here on his own, though.
13:15 Veronica Diaz, ELI
please post questions for the speaker here in the chat
13:17 Roxann Riskin
Ray Kurzweil! YEAH!
13:17 Geetha Nehemia - Broome Community College
I am a fan of John Seely Brown
13:18 Debbie Malcangi 4
Power of Pull is a good JSB book
13:18 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Is the singularity truly near? If so, what does this mean for learning?
13:18 Jason Bengtson
Mobile access to knowledge is great . . . but we need effective ways to assign it source authority. Too many people are taking whatever they find through digital at face value.
13:18 Jane Harris
So is A New Culture of Learning (JSB)
13:19 Clark Quinn
Learnlets :)
13:19 Oxford College of Emory University
Who has implemented and in what forms?
13:19 Willie Miller (IUPUI)
Great point Jason. This is an area of opportunity for librarians.
13:20 Dolf Jordaan
Why do we find that at all these academic mobile discussions we seldom see the users (our students) attend it or share their views or is being invited...Just a thought that came to mind looking at the first quick poll option :)
13:20 Jason Bengtson
If mobile knowledge is nothing but McKnowledge or the equivalent of the bulletin board at the corner laundromat it won't do anyone any real good.
13:20 Clark Quinn
prob with this diagram, confounds core capabilities with derivative applications
13:20 Wayne State University
We're in the process of developing a mobile app, site, etc
13:20 Veronica Diaz, ELI
Hi Clark!
13:20 Mia Massicotte
Name of that book, please?
13:20 Clark Quinn
(thanks, Judy!)
13:20 Clark Quinn
Designing mLearning
13:21 Mia Massicotte
thanks
13:21 Veronica Diaz, ELI
13:21 Clark Quinn
( is the associated site)
13:21 Ben Woelk
Dolf--that's a good point. I do wonder about the students' perspectives.
13:21 Clark Quinn
(Hi, Veronica!)
13:21 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
We have been able to argue for the use of web conferencing (like we are using now) since a lot of companies use it. Are our students' future employers using mobile?
13:21 Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2
I'd be curious who is watching this on a mobile device?
13:22 Roxann Riskin
Bill your thoughts? Singularity in learning?
13:22 Jason Bengtson
Office computer
13:22 Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2
office computer, hardwired
13:23 Clark Quinn
love this, and for highly volatile information as well
13:23 Oxford College iPad
chat is challenging and response is slow on iPad, but it is possible
13:23 Roxann Riskin
what was our last game changer?
13:23 Jason Bengtson
The Army has changed since I was in. What happens when your smartphone breaks in the field? Good luck, guys.
13:23 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Hi Roxann. Singulatiry is where everything converges. Is this mobile? I rather think so...
13:23 Gina Bennett - COTR
@suzanne aruilio: there's a nice adobe connect app for mobile devices (I have it on android tablet)
13:23 Roxann Riskin
i do too Bill!!! agreed :)
13:24 Clark Quinn
K-2 with cellphones?!?!
13:24 Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2
@Gina, but are you using it now?
13:24 Wayne State University
Clark, that refers to parents as well, I presume.
13:24 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
Clark this surprises you?
13:24 Gina Bennett - COTR
@Suzanne: not when I'm sitting at my desktop (which i am now) but i have in the past
13:24 Sims Kline
Sims Kline, Research Librarian at Stetson University, DeLand, Florida: hello.
13:25 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:25 Shannon Smith
@Bill Drummond - Kurzweil would agree!
13:25 Clark Quinn
Wayne State, I'm certainly hoping so ;)
13:25 Wayne State University
Me too...
13:26 Sims Kline
All of the above ?
13:26 Sue Wise
@Sims-- agreed
13:27 Robin Ashford
yes, tried to check all boxes @Sims
13:27 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Biggest benfit - the students have and use them.
13:28 Oxford College of Emory University
Rugged? Low Cost?
13:28 Jason Bengtson
One of Plato's dialogues contained a story warning about the dangers of writing as a proxy for memory . . . the danger being that memory would become weak. We've replaced writing in that paradigm with digital. Will we be wise enough to use it as an augment or will it devolve into a crutch? Probably some of both.
13:28 Clark Quinn
also, what works for mobile web also overlaps a lot with what works for accessibility
13:28 Sue Wise
@Oxford-- Low cost for schools. Students and teachers bring them to the classroom with them.
13:28 Jason Bengtson
I am struck by the malleability of both memory and digital.
13:28 Debbie Malcangi 4
Our campus has a computer requirement policy for students. Does anyone have a mobile device requirement?
13:29 Mia Massicotte
Well it's true we no longer have the ability to recite the Iliad...but our values have changed along with that.
13:29 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
No Debbie, that would be very interesting
13:29 UTHSC Houston
@JasonB- agreed.
13:29 vuDAT, MSU
Jason, the amount of information then and now is different :)
13:29 Oxford College of Emory University
only 50% have smart phones. Are we setting up a culture of have versus have-nots?
13:29 Jason Bengtson
But the underlying issues are the same.
13:29 Willie George
Abilene Christian University requires mobile devices. They distribute them to the students.
13:29 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
How much of the current thinking about mobile learning is based on survey and how much is based on observation of use in the student's environment?
13:30 David Kampmann
I like that quote.
13:30 Melissa
does the mobile app have sound
13:30 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
I like to think the values have remained the same it about how we are communicating those valuse
13:30 UTHSC Houston
@vuDAT - yes but there is a lot that is not getting LEARNED just know where to reference
13:30 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
What device is distributed at Abilene Christian?
13:30 David Kampmann
Any recommendation for how to save as an epub?
13:30 Gina Bennett - COTR
@Melissa: yes
13:30 Willie George
iphone or ipod touch, student's choice
13:30 Willie George
at ACU
13:30 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
I do agree with the challenges
13:31 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
Interesting. Thanks Willie
13:31 Clark Quinn
(If they take iphone, student pays phone plan)
13:31 Oakland
Curiosity: Is anyone receiving a significant number of requests from student's for app-based learning modules?
13:31 Michael C
...
13:31 Mia Massicotte
Unfortunately still glued to pdfs for the most part.
13:31 srichter
@David - use Pages to make epubs - it's really simple
13:31 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
android is presently giving us problems
13:31 Debbie Malcangi 4
Abiliene Christian has a really cool culture that that embraces technology. Would love to talk to you guys
13:31 Barbara
is Pages cross platform or just Mac?
13:31 Dhwani
@srichter - how to do that
13:31 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
@Chris What kinds of problems?
13:32 Clark Quinn
or read Will Thalheimer's summary of spacing research: good stuff
13:32 EDUCAUSE Boulder
The current EQ and EDUCUASE Review have lots of coverage on ACU
13:32 srichter
Just Mac - there are PC programs that can make epubs, but pages is easiest
13:32 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
connection through VPN
13:32 Michael C
30 minutes in, we have not one technical aspect has been covered. Obviously, attendees are interested in mobile appsso why try to up sell it for the last half hour? Thee is more technical information in this chat window then the presentation.
13:32 Barbara
what recommended for windows?
13:32 srichter
How to make epubs in Pages:
13:32 Jason Bengtson
You can epub through Google Docs as well.
13:32 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
Oh yeah, unless you root your phone we have the same issue. No Cisco VPN client yet on droid
13:32 Mia Massicotte
There are websites that will also convert pdfs to epub
13:32 Willie George
@Barbara, Pages is Mac and iOS only
13:32 Susan Fowler
I agree Micahel!
13:32 Dhwani
oo thanks
13:32 srichter
Love ARIS!!!
13:32 Susan Fowler
Michael
13:33 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
Not Just us!!!
13:33 vuDAT, MSU
oakland, I believe we are at the front end of the curve of mobile learning apps
13:33 Gina Bennett - COTR
@Michael C: session was titled Learning today & tomorrow... not specifically about technology
13:33 Dhwani
list websites which convert pdf to epub
13:34 Mia Massicotte
epub to go is one of them
13:34 Monique (IU)
What is Google Goggles? Is that what the speaker said?
13:34 Mia Massicotte
epub2go
13:34 Oakland
@vuDAT, MSU: who is driving? IT driving, learning support driving, faculty driving or students driving?
13:34 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Is the military implanting devices yet?
13:34 John Bartelt
Phenomenal QR resource: (click on "Using QR Codes in the Classroom")
13:34 Veronica Diaz, ELI
13:34 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
Bill - Yes, Androids
13:35 Julie Rorabaugh
@Monique Google it (Goggles :-)
13:35 Mia Massicotte
Another is PDF to EPUB converter.
13:35 UTHSC Houston
@Oakland - mostly I see student driving and grant driving
13:35 vuDAT, MSU
oakland, both learning support and faculty, at Michigan State.
13:35 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
I was thinking more of cyborgs
13:35 Jason Bengtson
Google goggles is an augmented reality app that looks at things you image on a mobile device and adds qualitative information from web resources, google maps, etc.
13:35 Robin Ashford
agree! great augmented reality smartphone pdf by JISC here:
13:35 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
Love the Caveats but time is at a premium so much to do so little time as it were!!
13:35 Clark Quinn
good advice
13:36 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
MB googles goggles, giggles.
13:37 Susan Fowler
Students!
13:37 Clark Quinn
but learning *should* be driving!
13:37 Monique (IU)
Thanks, Veronica.
13:38 Sam
E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?
13:38 Monique (IU)
hahaha Michael
13:38 Clark Quinn
it's about better learning outcomes
13:38 Qi
@Clark - Yes!
13:38 TAMU
what is the source of the stats you presented?
13:38 Ken Waller - Nipissing iTeach
Any sites (URLs) that you would recommend for Professional Learning/Development to support growth in integration abilities for classroom teachers?
13:38 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Agree, clark!
13:38 Clark Quinn
(and then meeting learner needs, e.g. supporting access to administrative functions)
13:38 Sam
E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?
13:38 Michael C
@Tamu, I agree... statistics given within the slides are really insignificant and losely quoted.
13:39 Jason Bengtson
Too many publishers are just slapping text together and calling it an e-publication. We need to take advantage of the unique display and functional capabilities of these devices.
13:39 Pat 2
I lived in Malaysia in 1996 and almost everyone had a mobile ph, but almost no one had a desktop. They were on a little known co called Nokia. America is def behind here.
13:39 Sue Wise
Will this presentation be available after the fact?
13:39 Mia Massicotte
We are still very much locked-in to land lines, so that's a big reason why mobile is behind in Norrth America
13:40 vuDAT, MSU
agree with Jason. $$$ :(
13:40 Barbara
They post presentation online later in the day
13:40 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
@ Sue: Yes, we'll post all presentations on the mobile website:
13:40 Mike Richichi
Plain geography is also difficult for US. mobile coverage. Either vastness or terrain.
13:40 EDUCAUSE Boulder
@sue yes, within half an hour after the event
13:40 Sue Wise
What about teacher training? Examples of mobile use/training to use mobile in teacher prep programs?
13:41 Sam
E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?-->>> Important Question!!!
13:41 Bonita Bray
could we get sources for the stats - folks will want to know if we use them
13:41 UTHSC Houston
I believe the presentation will be available by 3:00
13:41 Jason Bengtson
We're also tied to profit systems that are too antiquated. We need to start moving web channels, including mobile to the public utility realm, like Europe has in many places.
13:41 Debbie Malcangi 4
What's more important: Making course content portable or creating applications that support learning and engagement in the classroom?
13:41 Oxford College of Emory University
@Sue Wise - fabulous Question. Judy, can you answer Sue Wise's question?
13:41 Qi
Adoption of m-learning may be easier for the countries that don't have to transit from laptop to mobile devices. They can just jump into it.
13:41 Sam
E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?
13:42 Shannon Smith
Touche!
13:42 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Being behind is not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps we can leap ahead if we can figure out what's coming next...
13:42 Sam
QUESTION...E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?
13:42 Debbie Malcangi 4
@Sam: The publishers have to play ball.
13:42 Sue Schulte - Humber College
Will the chat logs be posted as well?
13:42 Sam
Why cant the universities drive it?
13:43 Bernie Holmes
What about emulators for mobile webapp testing, what about remote labs?
13:43 Sam
Why leave all the gravy train (etextbooks ) to the for profit Publishers?
13:43 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
@ Sue: Yes, we'll post the chat as a resource as well.
13:43 Jason Bengtson
The publishers have systematically fought digital- they basically sank the rocket e-book. Amazon forced them to change their tune . . . slightly. I think the best thing for everyone would be if other players moved in to replace them.
13:43 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
A crutch replaces a bad leg - mobile can enhance, not replace, something that already works
13:43 Gina Bennett - COTR
@debbie malcangi 4: I think the classroom as the primary delivery platform for learning is past its time.
13:43 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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13:43 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
For universities to drive it you would have to know what your students are thinging. We are talking about 20 yr olds!!!
13:43 Sam
Hi Dr. Brown...would love to hear your opinion: E- Textbooks seem to be fragmented..What and Who will drive the convergence for a uniform platform?
13:44 Debbie Malcangi 4
@Gina - I don't think we're there yet, but headed in that direction.
13:44 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
@Christopher: You can learn a lot by observing interaction. Behavior often is more truthful than surveying "what they are thinking".
13:45 Jason Bengtson
Open source textbook publishing is promising, but it's still an exteremly nascent and limited exercise. Academics don't want to self publish, either, because we don't get much credit for that with our institution.
13:45 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
True Daniel. My work study students give me just that. I speak with them everyday
13:45 Liberty University 2
Besides Abilene Christian, what other universities are driving mobile efforts?
13:45 Thomas La Foe
How flexible can these mobile platforms be? How easy is it to implement a change that students demand?
13:45 Clark Quinn
Judy mentioned purdue, and virginia tech
13:46 UTHSC Houston
@Gina, I don't know that classroom is passed its prime, but agree that sage on the stage is not necessarily the best education model
13:46 Willie George
Seton Hill is pushing mobile
13:46 Jason Bengtson
We're trying at the University of New Mexico, but we're dealing with a lot of budget and staffing reductions . . . just like everyone.
13:46 Willie George
Duke is starting to
13:46 Michael Haan
It is nice to see some of the mainstream tools like InDesign CS5.5 and Quark 9 include e-pub tools.
13:46 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
I have found that most of my work study students use their laptops for school and their phones for personal. Security drives the separation
13:46 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
@Christopher: My favorite suggestion is "Your developers/academic support people should be observing someone using their LMS or tool every week, so you can make immediate changes quickly and in an ongoing basis."
13:46 Liberty University 2
Are they pushing from a development standpoint, or from a "Get everyone a mobile device" effort?
13:47 Jason Bengtson
I'm trying to develop and enhance our mobile content.
13:47 Debbie Malcangi 4
Thanks Judy
13:47 Clark Quinn
great job, Judy!
13:47 Willie Miller (IUPUI)
Indiana University has 3 groups using iPads in classrooms ()
13:47 Michigan Tech University
we're looking at jquery mobile. Anyone else investigating this ?
13:47 Robin Ashford
thank you, Judy - great presentation
13:47 UTHSC Houston
Thanks Judy
13:47 Michael Haan
Thanks Judy!
13:48 Jason Bengtson
Thanks, Judy!
13:48 Debbie Malcangi 4
@Michigan Tech: For a mobile homepage?
13:48 Grace Lin (Hawaii)
Thank you Judy!! always enlightening!
13:48 Michigan Tech University
For a mobile library stie
13:48 Wayne State University
MI Tech - our web comm. dept. is using it for our mobile site, last I had seen/heard.
13:48 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Thanks, Judy. Say hello for me to joe Cothron at Army Education!
13:48 Maria V.
Thanks, Judy! Awesome info :)
13:48 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
Most of our IT support that services the students directly are studentts and still haven't mastered the art of communicating for information sake
13:49 Camille Fangue
Thank you, Judy!
13:49 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
A good source for stats - A Comprehensive Guide to Mobile Statistics -
13:50 Thomas La Foe
We have a mobile site/web app so that it can be accessed by any device
13:50 Veronica Diaz, ELI
please post your questions for our speakers right here in chat!
13:50 Russ, Sinclair Community College
We also use Mobile Web to support the most devices
13:50 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
And tag today's Tweets with #EDUSprint.
13:50 Thomas La Foe
But it's modeled on an iPhone style page.
13:50 vuDAT, MSU
thanks, Judy!
13:51 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Any subject areas doing better (or worse) than others?
13:51 Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State 2
nice
13:51 Russ, Sinclair Community College
ours is modeled off the MIT open source mobile project
13:51 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
Great analogy, Jennifer
13:51 Debbie Malcangi 4
Why would anyone put mobile devices in a sink. Someone might turn the water on. Then they'd be ruined
13:51 Jason Bengtson
We tray and support both with the mobile web, but given Android's sketchy support for javascript it gets tough. I don't have access to many server -side scripting resources.
13:51 Thomas La Foe
on your mobile or to see it on your comp.
13:51 Geetha Nehemia - Broome Community College 2
Debbie good joke
13:52 Russ, Sinclair Community College
Jason- it is a little being back in the old HTML days again isnt it
13:52 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
Check out for an example of spaced learning
13:52 Jason Bengtson
@Russ Ha! That's a fact!
13:52 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@Russ - I agree. Maybe we can learn something from what happened in the past
13:53 Chip at IUPUI
our mobile site: - generated from our drupal cms
13:53 Oxford College of Emory University
CDC has a similar kind of medical spaced learning via TXT
13:53 vuDAT, MSU
Chip, which cms?
13:53 UTHSC Houston
Android sketchy with java, and Apple's issues with Flash. Is there a clean counter on which to work?!
13:54 Chip at IUPUI
drupal
13:54 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
We are actually not encouraging app development and rather using a unified mobile framework. UCLA's
13:54 Thomas La Foe
Mississippi State's legal department didn't want to sign the contract with Apple.
13:54 Pat 2
Has anyone use Rhomobile yet? It creates native binaries for all 3
13:54 vuDAT, MSU
@chip, do you need a separate module for it?
13:54 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
That way it's platform agnostic
13:54 Clark Quinn
is it an admin app?
13:54 Clark Quinn
not for learning?
13:54 Pat 2
(android, iOS & Berry)
13:54 Chip at IUPUI
we are in the process of developing an iphone app, but are really trying to focus on moblie web
13:54 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
For those of you looking at QR codes, check out some of the EU SlideShare presentations where they post the QR code on the first slide so that participants can download the slides at the beginning of the session
13:54 Wayne State University
Pat: We're using RhoMobile, yes.
13:55 Debbie Malcangi 4
So VT's mobile presence is administrative rather than academic ... so far
13:55 Pat 2
Is it as cross platform as it looks?
13:55 Chip at IUPUI
for drupal, there is an easy to use module
13:55 Wayne State University
Pat: Mostly, with the occasional hiccup.
13:55 Russ, Sinclair Community College
we are trying to move some web based science labs to mobile, but it is a challenge
13:55 Jason Bengtson
I may try to get our web team to set PHP up on the server for me. Then our web apps for mobile would be more workable. We have ASP, but I dislike it.
13:55 Russ, Sinclair Community College
-Chip, I like the drupal idea that is nice
13:56 Willie Miller (IUPUI)
@Chip I've used it for teaching across androif and apple devices.
13:56 Russ, Sinclair Community College
13:56 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
Before you get too excited about QR codes, you might want to read Google Kills Off Those Little Square Codes You Scan With Your Phone -
13:56 Becky Peters
We used IUi -- m.usfca.edu
13:56 Clark Quinn
were they proscribed from using uni branding?
13:57 Jason Bengtson
Interesting; thanks Judy!
13:57 Becky Peters
iui address --
13:58 Russ, Sinclair Community College
thanks for the IUI link, interesting
13:58 Becky Peters
Now building with Sungard Mobile Learn
13:58 Thomas La Foe
MSU uses to track shuttles. It has a very nice iPhone interface but a pretty basic "everything else" interface
13:58 Veronica Diaz, ELI
13:59 Lisa
@Chip what is the drupal mobile module?
13:59 Mike Richichi
Neat app, but ironic to have a mobile app to identify computer lab seats?
13:59 Debbie Malcangi 4
Clever vs. useful
13:59 Jason Bengtson
Have class and have to go. Great chatting with all of you.
14:00 Russ, Sinclair Community College
-mike, we are also building that function now, students want it since we have labs all over campus and they dont want to walk to a lab if there are no seats open
14:00 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
There are many examples in some of my earlier presentations at
14:01 Willie George
the Xoom is from Motorola, not Samsung
14:01 Page Jerzak, FAU
What kind of backups (cloud, network space) do you provide for your mobile devices (in case something breaks, goes missing, etc)?
14:01 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Audio cutting out frequently
14:01 Liberty University
@page Good question....I'd like to hear the answer as well for mobile backups
14:01 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
@BIll mine too
14:02 John Bartelt
Thanks for the link, Judy. It's hard to project an NFC in a PPT slide, though, LOL.
14:02 Quintin Lang, Fanshawe College
Audio gone
14:02 Wayne State University
Audio is fine via phone.
14:02 Boston College
audio out here too
14:02 Wayne State University
John: hard to print an NFC chip too, I'd assume.
14:02 Michigan Tech University
audio gone here too
14:02 Thomas La Foe
Yeah, having delays
14:03 Becky Peters
so quiet....
14:03 Chip at IUPUI
@lisa - drupal is an open source content management system, and has a mobile module to deliver the content to as a mobile website
14:03 Tanya Joosten (UWM)
audio out
14:03 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
If silence is golden, I'm a rich guy
14:03 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
The audio has stuttered a couple of times. I don't lose content, but just the sound for a bit. Please switch to the phone line.
14:03 Chase
GoodReader also allows annotations. It's a great way to organize your documents as well.
14:04 Clark Quinn
hmm, audio working fine (with occasional hiccups)
14:04 Clark Quinn
yes, love GoodReader
14:04 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
1-877-944-2300, access code 99218#. If you call in, please mute your computer speakers.
14:04 Lisa
just need to know the specific module thanks!
14:04 Liberty University
Ms. Sparrow: Do faculty at VT get both an iPad and a computer?
14:04 Chase
Yay Evernote! Best app ever.
14:05 Russ, Sinclair Community College
for Faculty mobile devices how do you handle purchasing apps?
14:05 Clark Quinn
Second for evernote
14:05 Oxford College of Emory University
is video still updating? We still see "Apps for active learning" iAnnotate slide
14:05 Sharon
I'm using Evernote right now to take notes on this presentation.
14:05 Chase
Oxford: Yes, Evernote is on the screen
14:06 Carine
Evernote... my constant companion
14:06 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
evernote needs to be on the top of every faculty member's list.
14:06 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
I will push for faculty, staff, and students to purchase their own devices and apps. It's (in my mind) like a car that takes you to work.
14:06 Mike Richichi
the phone is actually better audio quality (besides the dropouts)
14:06 Thomas La Foe
Does Evernote have file storage?
14:06 Sharon
Carine: Yep, me too.
14:06 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
especially for taxonomy purposes.
14:07 Lauren
@Thomas, yes. A free account can upload PDFS or images; a paid account can upload anything
14:07 Joe
@Bill - do you believe that this extends to wireless Internet access, too?
14:08 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
Totally agree on Evernote
14:08 Debbie Malcangi 4
Jennifer, do you have any technophobic faculty? Do you try to work with them?
14:08 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Many of my faculty still use overhead projectors!
14:08 Joe
Meaning that we should begin to think about counting on folks coming with their own access?
14:08 Thomas La Foe 2
Whoa. I was kicked out.
14:08 John Bartelt
Yeah, we should ban pencils in class too. Too much doodling... (sarcasm mode off)
14:08 Wendy from NSU
Bill - just take them away and see what happens!!
14:08 Diana Moore
Thanks, Jennifer!
14:08 Grace Lin (Hawaii)
thanks!
14:08 Michael Haan
Thank you Jennifer!
14:08 Shannon Smith
Awesome Jennifer!
14:08 Damon Blythe
Thanks Jennifer!!!
14:08 UTHSC Houston 2
Great Jennifer! thanks for your thoughts and resources
14:08 Camille Fangue
Thank you Jennifer. That was VERY helpful.
14:08 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
audio died
14:09 Christopher Garron - UMass Dartmouth
Great Job Jennifer
14:09 Sue McFadden
the speakers voices are cutting in and out
14:09 Wendy from NSU
Thanks Jennifer - very good information.
14:09 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@Joe - I think it should be for everything, computers, phones, access, there are too many things for the institution to keep track of, and involving the institution limits use
14:10 John Bartelt
Horribly uncomfortable looking seats...
14:10 Chip at IUPUI
@lisa - sorry it is not really a drupal module but several lines of code (10 or so) that detect device type and deliver a different interface for mobile delivery
14:10 Joe
@Bill - I agree - we should focus on providing education instead of other items/services that students can (and will regardless) bring themselves
14:10 Sharon
Future air traffic controller?
14:11 Oxford College of Emory University
no matter how uncomfortable, some poeople can sleep anywhere
14:11 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
BYOD or BYOT
14:11 d.h
that is ture
14:11 Russ, Sinclair Community College
will colleges need to hire new additional staff to manage the addition of Mobile Web / Mobile Apps or is it repurposing resources?
14:11 Dhwani
no voice
14:12 Carine
so is the word search booklet!
14:12 d.h
anybody has examples of how mobile learning is used specifically for online learning?
14:12 Willie Miller (IUPUI)
Looks like she's logging into something.
14:12 WilfridLaurierUniversity
Audio is dropping more and more often
14:12 Mia Massicotte
Maybe she is posting a reminder to Evernote for herself
14:12 Tom Kurtz
That looks like the Purdue Exponent to me!
14:12 Bonita Bray
yeah Mia - LOL
14:12 Debbie Malcangi 4
@Russ: Another possibility is to partner with students to develop mobile apps/sites
14:12 Monique (IU)
hahahahaha
14:12 Clark Quinn
or tweeting a comment on the lecture
14:12 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
d.h. Recorded lectures are avilable for mobile use
14:12 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
depends on the student
14:13 Russ, Sinclair Community College
@Debbie, we are a CC, not as easy to get students to develop as it is for a school with a CS program
14:13 d.h
thanks Bill. Any other useage?
14:13 Jackie Hsu
Now, I listen the presentation via phone. But the PowerPoint image is not current
14:13 Veronica Diaz
@oxford: LOL
14:13 Veronica Diaz
@Oxford: LOL
14:14 d.h
What apps are used to view the recorded lectures?
14:14 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
i think there is a saturation point of mobile devices (laptops, ipads) where people don't notice. think about SXSW Interactive.
14:14 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
The sound has stuttered a few times. I’m going to move the bandwidth heavy who’s here pod out for a few minutes.
14:14 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
Thanks for your patience!
14:14 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
What you're really saying, Kyle, is that (hopefully) mobile may help transform education from teacher (and content) centered, to student-centered.
14:14 Oxford College of Emory University
What about SXSW?
14:14 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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14:16 Hui-Hsien Tsai
south by southwest=sxsw
14:16 John Bartelt 2
How can I get Hotseat? I've sent numerous emails to Purdue for months, with no response.
14:16 Gary
The disply is blank
14:17 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Those (especially those in instructional technology) without patience will soon become a patient
14:17 Oxford College of Emory University
How SXSW saturated with mobile? Did mobile override interaction witht he real world?
14:17 Debbie Malcangi 4
SoapBox is similar to Hotseat:
14:17 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
@ Gary: Please see my private chat msg.
14:17 John Bartelt 2
Thanks, Debbie!
14:17 Wendy from NSU
my brain is dizzy with so much information trying to keep up with mobile apps and learning
14:18 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
saturation = you don't get distracted by other people's devices if you are engaged with your own.
14:18 Iowa State University
with anonymous questoins, did you find the students stayed responsible, since accountability is agruably gone?
14:18 Hui-Hsien Tsai
SXSW is a conference focus on interactivity, and mobile was a big discussion topc at this year's conference
14:18 John Bartelt 2
Good point, Daniel. And you don't get distracted if it's an engaging lecture. :-)
14:19 Mia Massicotte
If the instructor displayed the anonymous stream during the lecture, the answer could be provided
14:19 Joe
Does the instructor answer questions aloud or through the back channel? The former reminds me of Planet of the Apes 2 where the "hero" w
14:19 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Interesting. Audio cutting out on laptop with Google Chrome and video disappeared from iPad. Had to log out, log back in.
14:19 Oxford College of Emory University
Engaging lectures see very quiet chat rooms
14:19 Joe
as interrogated mentally
14:19 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
Thanks! Yes, if you ever see any blank or gray pods, you need to log off and log back on.
14:20 Joe
but answered verbally
14:20 John Bartelt 2
Joe, the instructor can peek at the backchannel at any time, and answer anything verbally.
14:21 Joe
Could be a strange experience at first... but I certainly see the benefits
14:21 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
I've been reluctant to use Facebook or other apps like this due to creepy tree house syncdrome. Did your students react negatively by your using Facebook?
14:21 UNebLincoln1
Twitter question: what is backchannel for largely or solely asynchornous online course?
14:21 John Bartelt 2
Does anyone not like mobile devices in class? And if so, why are you reading this instead of concentrating on the speaker? ;-p
14:22 Chase
Dropbox is fantastic. Highly recommended.
14:22 Sam
Hi Kyle: Are your Purdue Apps available on the App store?
14:22 Terri Linman
@John -Students take notes and can still attend to speaker. Even better is an engaging activity during class!
14:23 Thomas La Foe 2
Not creepy, but possibly In trusive.
14:23 Chase
As a young professional, I definitely admit that the idea of using Facebook in the classroom comes across as creepy.
14:23 Thomas La Foe 2
*intrusive
14:23 Joe
Does anyone else have to click 3 times for the vote to stick?
14:23 Wayne State University
Joe: yes.
14:23 John Bartelt 2
No. Just once.
14:24 Chase
Facebook is a social outlet for students. They don't want their academics to be connected with it.
14:24 UTHSC
Joe, sometimes 3 is not enough
14:24 Lauren
I think using Facebook is stepping too far over the line from class to personal space.
14:24 Oxford College of Emory University
We do. Win 7; Firefox 4.
14:24 Mike Richichi
I More than once anyway
14:24 UTHSC
Lauren, I agree
14:24 Damon Blythe
just once
14:24 Michigan Tech University
same functionality for students who choose to opt out of fbllk?
14:24 d.h
a lot of times we do not want the different parts of our life mix
14:24 Diana Moore
I think it's important to connect to the students where they are and in a way in which they are familiar, i.e, FB
14:24 S.Terry - U of Memphis
Kyle do the students havefree DropBox accounts or does Purdue pay for storage?
14:24 Debbie Malcangi 4
I love the experiments. The execution (like with Facebook) I don't like as much.
14:25 Wendy from NSU
Likes bourndaries between personal and professional usage of apps
14:26 Damon Blythe
WE @ Tuskegee University are piloting an asynchronous & mutlisychronous app called
14:26 Eric LePage
I'm using FB Groups this semester for class discussions. Works well in that I don't have to be friends with them, and they can take part in the discussions anytime/anywhere with mobile devices. I hadn't planned on doing it - they asked for it.
14:26 Tabitha Washburn - Union University Germantown
Dropbox has 2.5 GB free
14:26 Rhonda Altonen
I agree Wendy, I actually have 2 accounts one professional, one personal.
14:27 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
I was hoping to help the audio stutter by moving a bandwidth heavy pod out. I’m not losing audio content, but it is still stuttering. Please join us on the conference call line at: 1-877-944-2300, access code 99218#.
14:27 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Live Mesh from Microsoft has 5GB
14:27 Jayne Dissette
I use a course FB site so the students don't have to friend me and it keeps it less creepy. I can not only capture the backchannel, but I can put the news feed into my Bb announcements and push readings.
14:27 srichter
I think students have a completely different view of boundaries than faculty do
14:27 guest 2
SkyDrive through Microsoft has 25Gb for free and collaborative tools online
14:27 Bob Hughes
@Lauren - I agree. How many schools tried to engage via mySpace?
14:27 Roxann Riskin
Drop Box does at times lag when sychining over networks but very good to test out
14:27 Diana Moore
MySpace is dead.
14:27 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@guest2 - my bad. 25GB
14:27 Rhonda Altonen
Are boundaries a generational concept?
14:28 Hui-Hsien Tsai
we use FB page fo reporting a project in the real field
14:28 Diana Moore
I love Dropbox!
14:28 Debbie Malcangi 4
We're a Friendster-only shop
14:28 Wayne State University
Dropbox is also very cross-platform. Even has good Linux support, for example.
14:28 Roxann Riskin
Drop box is on all my mobile devices for students
14:28 Michael Haan
Thank you Kyle!
14:29 Diana Moore
I use Dropbox on all my mobile devices too (iPhone and iPad)
14:29 Grace Lin (Hawaii)
Thanks! so entertaining and informative
14:29 Roxann Riskin
and Everynote
14:29 Roxann Riskin
EverNote
14:29 Damon Blythe
@ Jayne: Can you give me more info on the course FB site?
14:29 Kurt Chambers
Go Lisa!
14:29 Diana Moore
Evernote rocks too!
14:29 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
Great tools, Kyle - Thanks
14:29 Diana Moore
I am taking notes right now with Evernote!
14:29 South Dakota State University - J. Lurvey
Thanks
14:30 UNebLincoln1
I'd like to hear about that too, @Jayne
14:30 Roxann Riskin
Yeah Diana!!!
14:30 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Victoria - with the bandwidth heavy pod out, the iPad adobe connect app is displaying the uppper left (speaker) slide, not the content slide.
14:31 Shannon Smith
Really @Debbie Malcangi? :-D
14:31 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
@ Michael: All pods are back in the room. Please see my private chat.
14:31 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Visible window on iPad fixed. Quick. Thanks
14:31 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
I'm reluctant to use Apple stuff since they are so proprietary. Any issues with this (you MUST use iTunes, etc.)?
14:31 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
@ Michael: Oh great! Thanks!
14:32 Diana Moore
No, I love my iStuff.
14:32 Dolf Jordaan
Problem still remains how to institutionalise pilot programmes such as this one...any ideas...OR do we need to institutionalise it at all as technology develop so rapidly and users have preferences of devices
14:32 Tabitha Washburn - Union University Germantown
I can't imagine anything being easier to use than iTunes, so I don't mind it
14:32 Michael Haan
Love iTunes and the Apple ecosystem.
14:33 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
.I dislike being forced to use any thing
14:33 Diana Moore
We circulate iPads for only 3 hours. We have 8 currently available.
14:34 Susan Fowler
You can get apps onto to your apple products without iTunes but i wouldn;t reccommend it. It is an awesome way to ruin it.
14:34 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@Dolf - I think your OR is better. Things change so quickly, institutionalizing anything is a risk of becoming obsolete
14:34 SEAN
How do you provide paid apps for students?
14:34 daniel spillers @ University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Community colleges always seem better at putting tools in the hands of students than 4-year colleges. Is that true?
14:34 Tina Brock
I've struggled with using iPads in collaborative education in Africa because some files require an iTunes account and that requires a credit card.
14:34 Chase
Huge Apple fan. Things are proprietary so they always work and I like my technology to be in working condition. :-)
14:35 Susan Fowler
They don;t have credit cards in Africa?
14:35 UTHSC
Chase: so working and not crashing other things ... Apple good, Adobe bad
14:35 Diana Moore
Tina, can your students purchase Amex or Visa gift cards?
14:35 Tina Brock
In some African countries, it would not be common to have a credit card. Even the Dean of the school!
14:36 Oxford College of Emory University
Lisa - how did students print their papers? Or did they just email the papers to faculty? Use Bb to upload papers?
14:36 Michael Haan
No one likes being forced to use something. However, that is what we, as IT, to some extent do to our end-users. We don't have a choice. We don't have the resources to do otherwise.
14:36 Diana Moore
They can function like credit cars.
14:36 Jan W
@Chase: yes! you can pay me to support a PC at work, but at home...only apple :-)
14:36 Marist College 2
I know webOS will have Citrix, does Apple or Android have this software?
14:36 Tina Brock
It looks like the pre-loaded cards don't actually work with iTunes.
14:36 sperber
Tina, I am doing some work in Africa, too. What kind of files require an iTunes account. I know that you need an account to download apps... but, I can't think of any files that require such an account.
14:37 Mike Richichi
There's Wyse PocketCloud for Android which talks to Citrix
14:37 Sarkis Daglian (UCI)
@Marist I believe Apple does
14:37 Michael Haan
14:37 Susan Fowler
oooh, can we access that database of reviews? Is it availble online?
14:37 Jeannette Lim
so great seeing how mobile is used in the community college sphere. i work in a 2 year and there are many obstacles encountered bc of lack of resources and such.
14:37 Tina Brock
We (scary) ended up opening low-limit personal accounts that we shared. Our collaborators there are awesome but I think it made them feel second class to have to approach it that way.
14:37 Monique (IU)
@ Daniel, perhaps there is less red tape bureaucracy at CC...but it appears that CC are always on the cutting edge.
14:37 UTHSC
b
14:38 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Citrix has iPad iPod iPhone app
14:38 Tina Brock
@sperber - it doesn't always seem to be the same types of files but they have had trouble even with YouTube clips.
14:38 Mia Massicotte
Will the apps being discussed be in the presentation afterward?
14:38 Hui-Hsien Tsai
Where do you collect students' assignments from Ipad?
14:39 Chase
All of the above?
14:39 guest 2
Here is how to create an iTunes account without a credit card. It was published two weeks ago on Macworld weekly:
14:39 Carine
where's the option for "our students aren't using iPads"?
14:39 Susan Fowler
students can send you their assignments from teh iPad via email.
14:40 Susan Fowler
@guest2 - nice!
14:40 UTHSC
@Carine. I agree :)
14:40 Roxann Riskin
the iPad isn't very printer friendly for me
14:40 Tina Brock
Thank you, guest 2!!! Maybe all my emails to Apple helped :)
14:40 Thomas La Foe 2
It's cause the iPad isn't a computer. It's a giant iPhone
14:40 Chase
It's not a giant iPhone. That comparison is completely inaccurate.
14:41 Diana Moore
My giant iPhone makes reading books so much easier....
14:41 Judy Brown, University of Wisconsin System
@Clark Quinn - check your private chat
14:41 guest 2
Nope Apple still wants a credit card, this author just figured out which buttons to click to bypass the requirement
14:41 Page Jerzak, FAU
Does this mean we need to have mobile learning student learning communities? Ot technology-centered student learning communities?
14:41 D Christopher Brooks
How was engagement measured?
14:41 Marist College 2
@Roxann HP's ePrint app should help with printing from the iPad and other mobile devices
14:41 Michael Haan
Create an iTunes App Store account without a credit card
14:42 Roxann Riskin
iPad 2 is better
14:42 Tina Brock
@guest2 and M Haan -THANK YOU!
14:42 srichter
I have an iPad 2 and the mirroring is fantastic
14:42 Roxann Riskin
HP eprint needs a wireless network
14:42 Hui-Hsien Tsai
Is there anything beyond email as a way to collect students assignment from iPad?
14:42 Diana Moore
Distracting, yes. That book laying on my nightstand has been there for quite some time now.
14:42 Monique (IU)
lol at Diana.
14:42 Roxann Riskin
our infrastructure is locked out for wifi printers
14:42 Michael Haan
You can also log into your iTunes account and select a no card option. I did that for my kids.
14:43 Mia Massicotte
Post to google docs - share an account
14:43 Roxann Riskin
only a handful of printers you need to buy a new one
14:43 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Problem here is institutional purchase of iPad or iPod Touch is permitted. Purchase of apps is not. Doh.
14:43 Debbie Malcangi 4
I wonder how tech-savvy the students were. Can be diverse, espcially in a CC.
14:43 Marist College 2
@Roxann Wireless required? As opposed to 3/4G? #ePrint
14:43 Lisa
@Hui Hsien students can upload into blackboard, moodle, the cloud,
14:43 Roxann Riskin
yes, we don't purchase 3/4/g
14:43 Roxann Riskin
on campus
14:43 Susan Fowler
I thought you ocld not use google docs on the iPad. Has that changed?
14:43 Debbie Malcangi 4
Were there restrictions on using other devices in these classes? Forced to use iPad?
14:44 Mia Massicotte
Why not? Open up google
14:44 Lisa
google docs works fine on my ipad
14:44 Mike Richichi
Apple/Google need better tools for institutional provisioning/payment for apps
14:44 Hui-Hsien Tsai
@Lisa Directly through iPad BB app?
14:45 Chase
14:45 Joe
Challenge - buy-in from above
14:45 Oxford College of Emory University
Other issues: Political will from higher-ups
14:45 UTHSC
Other: Central IT and IT Security concerns and support
14:45 Mia Massicotte
Other challenges: getting buy-in from staff to change their ways (unfortunately)
14:46 Michael Haan
App Store Volume Purchase Program
14:46 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Other challenges - forcing faculty and students to use iPads
14:46 Diana Moore
Some faculty don't like change....
14:46 american university
@diana - very true
14:46 Bob Hughes
We started purchasing iPads for faculty. One was lost/stolen 2 weeks after purchase.
14:46 Roxann Riskin
iPd pilot project with my tech students for supporting library tech using Evernote and Dropbox and Skype
14:47 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Yes, App Store Volume Purchase Plan is great, but only if institutional policy permits using it.
14:47 Hui-Hsien Tsai
@ Chase thanks! I am looking at audio/video assignments from students
14:47 Susan Fowler
That is awesome. Youcould nto use Google Docs on iPad last year. I'm so glad I attended this. I have learned so much!
14:47 Thomas La Foe 2
I think I just heard my Library Instruction team scream, lol
14:47 Roxann Riskin
just added box car with twitter feeds
14:47 Diana Moore
I think with proper training and workshops for faculty, there could be more interest
14:47 Oxford College of Emory University
I wouldn't rush to puchase a chrome laptop. Previews show they boot very fast, but then run extrmely slowly.
14:47 Thomas La Foe 2
Oh the irony
14:48 guest 6
iPads for Library Intruction. :)
14:48 Michael Haan
For lost and stolen iOS devices we will be using
14:48 guest 2
Bill Drummond is correct, the cost of iPad purchase can be prohibitive if students and faculty already have laptops
14:48 Camille Fangue
Lisa, thank you.
14:48 Michael Haan
Thank you Lisa!
14:48 Terri Linman
Thanks Lisa! Exactly what we needed to hear more about!
14:48 Georgette Michko
Can you put the link up again?
14:48 Jeannette Lim
thank you, lisa.
14:48 Diana Moore
Lisa, are you publishing these findings?
14:48 UTHSC
Thanks Lisa!
14:48 Camille Fangue
Could we get the URL Lisa posted on the last slide, please?
14:48 Wendy from NSU
Adobe connect app is for iphone but not ipad so it is smaller on ipad
14:48 Jila Kazerounian (UConn, Storrs)
Thank you everyone!
14:48 Lisa Young, Maricopa Community Colleges
scottsdalecc.edu/ipad
14:48 Roxann Riskin
thanks
14:49 Diana Moore
Bill and Guest, once textbooks become available on iPad, then $500 is far less than what a student pays for books each semester
14:49 MJ Heider
Accessibility -- how does anyone deal with accommodations?
14:49 Thomas La Foe 2
I would like to know how quickly the mobile platforms can be updated to add student requests?
14:49 Oxford College of Emory University
Question for Lisa: What resources, projects, programs or initiatives were sacrified or not purachesed to purchase 50+ iPads?
14:49 Loretta Driskel
how long did iit take Purdue to make the aps?
14:49 hongbo@Ryerson University
@Kyle Would other university be able to take advantage of the Studio projects? Would you consider open source them?
14:49 MC
Yes. Accessibility?
14:50 Michael Haan
iOS Accessibility seems fairly strong.
14:50 Debbie Malcangi 4
Accessibility
14:50 Susan Fowler
Question for Lisa - is that database of student reviews on apps available?
14:50 Lisa Young, Maricopa Community Colleges
14:50 Camille Fangue
Thank you for the URL!
14:50 guest 2
Michael Haan have you also looked into Undercover from Oribicule?
14:50 Wendy from NSU
Lisa - how did you assess your mobile program's successes?
14:50 Diana Moore
How intense was the training for students using iPads? Here is the iPad and here's how you turn it on? I think with proper training, the students would have seen the value in more personal use as well.
14:50 Michael Burke - UT Knoxville
Challenges - administrative indifference
14:50 Lisa Young, Maricopa Community Colleges
Susan, you can email me and I can provide access to the datatbase
14:50 guest 2
14:50 Michael Haan
No guest 2. I will on your recommendation. Thanks!
14:50 Debbie Malcangi 4
My thoughts on accessibility: iOS is much better, especially apps. You can make very accessible iOS apps. JS frameworks for mobile web struggle in accessibility.
14:51 guest 2
When you buy more than 100 copies the price drops to 9.99 each - forever, no subscription fees.
14:51 Roxann Riskin
what paid apps are worth it?
14:51 Iowa State - CVM
Ironic that your Ipad site uses Flash :)
14:51 Debbie Malcangi 4
Lisa: Did you allow other devices in the test classrooms? Was it iPad-only?
14:52 Michael Haan
guest 2, great recommendation. Thank you!
14:52 Quintin Lang, Fanshawe College
The past two hours was a fantastic review of what's going on in mobile. Lots of great ideas that will help spur our development.
14:52 Marcie
App Store Volume PUrchase Program at:
14:52 Diana Moore
There is a great article in College and REsearch Library News by Sara Thompson, "Setting up a library iPad program: Guidelines for success." April 2011
14:53 Chase
Roxann: Too many to post here. A few of my favorites: GarageBand, GoodReader, iAnnotate PDF, Keynote, Numbers, Pages, & Photogene
14:53 Debbie Malcangi 4
A general question: How do you organize campuswide mobile efforts? Is it a stampede? Or do you have a clear vision/strategy?
14:53 d.h
it seems that mobile learning is used more for face-to-face learning right now although it has potentials for distance learning. I am curious to see any cases out there to use mlearning for distance learning.
14:53 Diana Moore
m-learning is really constructivist and therefore student-centered.
14:54 Diana Moore
Our mobile technology is stagnating in IT.
14:54 Sue Schulte
m-learning is allowing us to move more towards a connectivist view
14:55 Diana Moore
D.h. there is a lot of literature out there right now on mlearning mostly in a distance learning environment.
14:55 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@d.h. We use recorded lectures with mobile-ready downloads available. They are extremely popular.
14:56 Michael Haan
Support is one reason I appreciate Apple's approach. It helps outsource some support for a minimal cost.
14:56 Kim S.
Which LMS's work best with the mobile devices?
14:56 Chase
Find My iPhone is a great way to track down lost/stolen iPads and iPhones
14:56 Rick - Cleveland State CC (TN)
What about supeonea situations for electronic records on mobile devices and associated cloud storage?
14:56 d.h
what are the formats of the recorded lectures?
14:56 Lisa
@Bill Drummond- what do you use to produce them in mobile format?
14:56 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@Lisa - Wimba
14:57 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
@d.h. MP4
14:57 srichter
Wimba's ability to generate mp4's of the archives is so useful!
14:57 Diana Moore
Here is that article on implementing an iPad program:
14:57 d.h
Thanks
14:58 d.h
Thanks Bill and Diana!
14:58 Diana Moore
Training and marketing!!!
14:58 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
With tounge in cheek - Those who would want to institutionalize pilot programs should be institutionalized themselves. :-)
14:59 Mary Ann Swain
Any faculty who have experimented with S. Papert's idea that we should prepare students to use information when they need it, rather than memorize it themselves?
14:59 South Dakota State University - J. Lurvey
Thanks. Great presentation and information.
15:00 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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15:00 Bill Drummond - Lawrence Technological University
Even with the technical difficulties, this was an excellent way to spend the day! Thanks, EDUCAUSE and all presenters!
15:00 Debbie Malcangi 4
Thanks!
15:00 Suzanne Aurilio, San Diego State
thank you, excellent session
15:00 Grace Lin (Hawaii)
this has been wonderful! thanks all
15:00 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
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15:00 Tina Brock
Great session! Thanks!
15:00 Wayne State University
Thanks, everyone.
15:00 Chester Andrews
thanks
15:00 Michael Haan
Wonderful presentation all. Thanks!
15:00 UTHSC 2
Thanks to both the presenters and to those comments from the other attendees that taught so much
15:00 Grand Valley State University
Thanks
15:00 Diana Moore
Thanks!
15:01 Damon Blythe
Muchismas Gracias to all presenters!!!
15:01 Jeannette Lim
Great session. Thank you!
15:01 EDUCAUSE Help, Victoria Fanning
15:01 Mia Massicotte
Very excellent
15:01 Jackie Hsu
good presentation
15:01 Jeff Toorongian
thanks
15:02 Veronica Diaz
thanks!
15:03 Ken Waller - Nipissing iTeach
Terrific presentation Lisa...btw, if you want to access web based resources via iPad that require Flash, try using the Cloud Browse app...it allows the Flash based apps to run on the iPad
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