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NTOC Talking Operations Webinar Chat Integrating Ridesharing with Transit - The Current State of PracticeNovember 28, 2012Moderator:Larry Filler, Regional Director, UrbanTrans North AmericaPresentationsRidesharing as a Complement to Transit:TCRP Synthesis 98Gail Murray, Nelson/Nygaard Consulting Associates, Inc.Integrating Rideshare with Transit:King County Metro Kevin Desmond, General Manager, King County Metro Transit Division/Department of Transportation, Seattle, WashingtonRidesharing and Transit at Potomac and Rappahannock Transportation Commission (PRTC)Charles Steigerwald, Manager of Planning and Quality Assurance, PRTCLisa Tucker National Center on Senior Transportation: To what extent did older people use ridesharing services?Lorenzo Mele City of Mississauga: Who drives the vans that are provided for the 'last mile' examples you've presented?John Niles: http: //onlinepubs.onlinepubs/tcrp/tcrp_syn_98.pdf is the full report.Phil Winters, CUTR: Did you encounter transit agencies that have divested themselves of ridesharing services? If so, why? Could it be that carpool passenger miles does not figure into the formulas for allocating $ to transit agencies? (i.e., they are more interested in revenue than cutting costs?)Carl Jackson-VDOT: We call casual carpooling "slugging" in VirginiaShamus Misek: Unfortunately, most transit agencies rarely put a significant amount of the 5307 formula funds received directly into their agency's vanpool program operations. Odile Beniflah : Excellent point: transit agencies not considering themselves as mobility providers!!tracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: And that's a shame Odile.Odile Beniflah : In Europe, 46% of our carpooling users take bus or train at least once a week -> ridesharing encourages people to use shared transportation so more customers for transittracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: That technology to match casual carpoolers is in use worldwideMarcy Jaffe: Please remind me: what is "slugging"?Jeremy Nagel: slugging = casual carpooling where drivers pick people up from bus stopsJeremy Nagel: or other random points on the roadPhil Winters, CUTR: sluggers and casual carpoolers can also be viewed as part-time transit riders rather than competitors filling P&R lots. In Houston, for example, many people slug in the morning but return via transitJ Crisafi: How many vanpools are primarily addressing the "last mile" model?David Sorrell: Lorenzo -- In regards to the "first/last mile" example with Pace Rideshare (Vanpool); from the Metra Station to the business parks, are driven by the employees of the companies. They manage the driving and paperwork in that individual vanpool...tracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: http: //Shamus Misek: Additional rideshare/vanpool based services Pace provided/provides - Vanpool Incentive Program employer for and non-profit shuttles, non-emergency medical shuttles, homeless shuttles and Advantage program. Carl Jackson-VDOT: Slugging is when you pick-up strangers at park and rides just so that you can use the HOV lanesJay Kassirer: You can read our case study of slugging in DC at http: //en/case-studies/detail/650Phil Winters, CUTR: During November and December 2010, the Federal Highway Administration’s (FHWA’s) Exploratory Advanced Research (EAR) Program supported a team that consisted of transportation professionals, academic faculty, and business entrepreneurs who visited informal carpool lines (also called slug lines or casual carpool lines) in Washington, DC; Houston, TX; and San Francisco, CA, to observe “slugs” and to compare practices among locations. The team also met with private ride–match providers, regional planners, carpool participants, and transportation planners and engineers, with the overall goal of studying these ridesharing systems to evaluate whether to fund research on the potential for and value of expansion or replication. The casual carpooling scan report has been posted online and is now LIVE..http: //fhwa.advancedresearch/pubs/12053/index.cfm.Appendix B to the casual carpooling report is LIVE also..http: //fhwa.advancedresearch/pubs/13023/index.cfm.Bryony Ecclestone. Liftshare: In the US do you keep your private (workplace) and public carpooling/ridesharing schemes separate? Marcy Jaffe: Will this chat & resources listed be included with the follow-up webinar posting?John Niles: http: //fhwa.advancedresearch/pubs/12053/index.cfm is a working link for the casual carpooling link that Phil posted.tracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: thanks J.NilesJennifer O'Brien, Lawrence OnBoard: What have agencies done about liability for ridesharing?Jocelyn Bauer: This webinar recording, transcript, presentations, and the chat transcript will be posted within a week at:web_casts_archive.php.Ashley Hale, CATA Clean Commute Options: Within the studied organizations, what is the relationship between the position(s) dedicated to ridesharing and general public transit operations? Are their dedicated departments for TDM, mobility management and/or rideshare? How many positions are dedicated to these responsibilities?Ashley Hale, CATA Clean Commute Options: *thereDavid Sorrell: Jen O’Brien: In Illinois, our vehicles (fixed route, ADvAntage, Vanpools) are self-insured by the state, which is defined by the vehicle code from the state...IVH 625 ILCS 5/10Asher Mercer (York Region): Does King Co.'s Commuter Voucher program allow commuters to use the vouchers for ridesharing?Courtney Allen: How many employees do you have solely focused on the rideshare program?Chris Arabia, Virginia Dept. of Rail & Public Transportation: Do you see more transit agencies becoming transportation agencies and including vanpooling, carpooling, bikesharing as part of their services? If so, how does a transit agency make this transition?Christy Campoll, Central Indiana Regional Transportation Aut: How is the Commute Trip Reduction Act enforced on employers?Odile Beniflah : In making the transition to becoming mobility agencies, how will agencies deal with peer-to-peer ridesharing services, which are so efficient but not under any control from the agencies?John Niles: Question for Kevin Desmond: Washington State public transit agencies are hurting for sustainable funding, and are now swarming the State Legislature for more local funding authority, and even direct allocation of State grant funding. The reported multi-year funding gap for just Puget Sound transit agencies was reported by you and others to the MPO as $7 billion dollars, including one billion dollars for your own agency. So, what are the opportunities for allocation of resources to ridesharing to be part of the solution in Washington State, as well as in other states, perhaps?Shamus Misek: Legislative fare box recovery ratio of 50% for the RTA in northeastern IL since 1978 contributed to Pace (which was formed in 1984 by legislation) to look at other ways (besides traditional fixed route) to meet the transportation needs within the six county service area.Robert Shull - ERMSI: Have you looked at, or are you emphasizing, the health and safety (less stress, road rage, etc.) aspects of ridesharing?Odile Beniflah : I love the passport idea.Lorenzo Mele City of Mississauga: For King County - Do people pay to park at your park and ride lots and if so how much per day?Tracy Ellis: Can I get a copy of the Alternative Services Plan?Carl Jackson-VDOT: Just curious, is King County named after Martin Luther King Jr?tracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: Echo the Virginia ??:Do you see more transit agencies becoming transportation agencies and including vanpooling, carpooling, bikesharing as part of their services? If so, how does a transit agency make this transition?John Niles: Park & ride parking in King County, Washington, (Seattle-Tacoma) is generally free.John Niles: King County, WA is named for Martin Luther King, Jr.Bruce: The county was named after William Rufus King who was Vice-President when the Washington Territory was created. In 1986 a motion was introduced by Ron Sims (a black Democrat from Seattle), and Bruce Laing (a white Republican from suburban Renton) to change the namesake to Martin Luther King, Jr.[2] No public hearings or votes were taken on the change.[3]Bryony Ecclestone. Liftshare: In the US, do all ridesharing service providers facilitate an exchange of funds between sharers, or is this left to sharers to organize?John Niles: Thx Jay Kassirer for the above posted pointer to your case study of slugging in DC!tracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: Does Clean Air Campaign in Georgia have a rep online here today?Odile Beniflah : Great to see agencies be an information and decision-making center - encouraging behavior change within their communities.David Sorrell: Ashley Hale - With Pace, we have 2 people who oversee the RIdeshare component with Business Development (including website and social media), who'll be in contact frequently with the Vanpool Departments as well as the Marketing Department if we have any questions (or in case of Social Media we collaborate with the fixed-route pages).Andrew Wilkins, ridesharing.us: Are agencies such as PRTC & states in general, that have many different transportation providers in their areas, looking at ways to collect metrics from all providers? From there is it possible for neighboring agencies to share this data for better planning & funding opportunities? Crystal Clark: Tracie, CAC is not on here but I work closely with them. I may be able to answer a question you have...or forward it to someone who can answer. Do you have a question?tracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: Crystal, I thought I’d seen several questions go by that they could have answered actually.Crystal Clark: Oh, yes.Carl Jackson-VDOT: Have you encountered any public safety issues with slugging?Jennifer O'Brien, Lawrence OnBoard: Anybody studied if negotiating the $ is a deterrent to rideshare?Aaron Fodge: I am appreciative for the opportunity to hear from these programs in large metropolitan areas. I might suggest the vast majority of MPOs across the country fall into a much smaller metropolitan areas struggling to get their fledgling transit programs growing. A future webinar topic might be case studies from smaller metro regions and how they initiated innovative programs to grow... especially where their regions are new to transit.Lou Gomes: With the economy as it is, are there concerns about personal safety and/or damaged or missing property?Jocelyn Bauer: Great idea, Aaron.Cheryl O'connor: there are no known cases of safety issues with sluggingCheryl O'connor: *knownCarl Jackson-VDOT: None!?Cheryl O'connor: from my research, I’ve not come across any reported instances of safety issuesCheryl O'connor: it seems backwards but it’s trueLou Gomes: How are Park-n-Rides monitored for safety?Diane Lackey, SCDOT: I am interested in listening to experiences states have had in establishing a statewide TDM or Trip Planning Solution, incorporating all forms of transportation as options for the commuter/passenger. Any thoughts or may I contact you?Jeremy Nagel: Cheryl - is that based on police reports?Cheryl O’Connor: correctJeremy Nagel: There was some alarming data on hitchhiking in the 70sJeremy Nagel: 300% increase in risk for sexual assaultValerie Taylor, Nelson Nygaard: Dynamic ridesharing software requires the user to register with the provider, and each driver and rider are rated for each ride. Women can also specify women-only rideshare partners. These are some safety measures in place for this type of ridesharing.Cheryl O'connor: I’m speaking to modern day slugging activities, concerning the actual tripJohn Niles: Q for Gail Murray: As cars in the USA gradually move up in fuel efficiency under the new Federal new car regulation heading the fleet toward 54.5 mpg, why wouldn't govt authorities want to emphasize ridesharing HOV2+ and HOV3+ as more environmentally friendly and taxpayer friendly than USA fixed route public transit?Jeremy Nagel: interesting that predators haven't taken advantage of sluggingJeremy Nagel: it would seem an ideal opportunity..Jeremy Nagel: Cheryl are there any published reports?David Sorrell: Social Media components with Ridesharing can help sift through the process of safety-- if an agency has a website with that capability to limit by gender, or employer, or profile.Cheryl O'connor: Let me go back and lookOdile Beniflah : How do agencies feel about giving up match-making and letting people arrange carpools directly among themselves? Cheryl O'connor: Jeremy what is your email addy?Jeremy Nagel: jeremy.nagel@.auPhil Winters, CUTR: Liability for promotion of ridesharing is controlled by state statutes. See Successful Risk Management for Rideshare and Carpool Matching Programs from TCRP Legal Research program at http: //Publications/Blurbs/154565.aspx David Sorrell: Question: For the states/regions with HOV 2+/3+, what were the processes (political/governmental/voter-based) did you have to undertake to achieve getting those lanes on the road?Jeremy Nagel: what about vicarious liability?Andrew Wilkins, ridesharing.us: I'm interested in Ms. Lackey's questions as well.Andrew Wilkins, ridesharing.us: question*Suzanne Seigneur, CTAI: I too would appreciate case studies from more rural agencies/areas as to how vanpooling and ridesharing can be set up.John Niles: Jeremy: As predatory crime goes, doing bad thing within slugging is not a good opportunity compared to other venues. Think about it. : )Often three in the car. Jeremy Nagel: maybe that's it JohnJeremy Nagel: 3 in a carJeremy Nagel: and that's almost an unwritten code of conductJeremy Nagel: I imagine women wouldn't get into the car with a solo male?Marcy Jaffe: Are any "fixed" vanpools lists at Google Maps for the online trip planner when riders are needed in that vanpool between the fixed A&B as if it were fixed route? Riders would call the agency rather than just wait by the bus stop. I’d like to learn more as to why or why not from a mobility management perspective.Aaron Antrim: Can someone discuss comparisons between employer-managed with public agency-sponsored rideshare programs? Shuttle systems and rideshare systems are an important part of transportation in the SF Bay Area? Some of these commuters also use public transit? How is it possible to find synchronicity?John Niles: I just set my icon for applause. Nice worktracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: I agree with Suzanne Stracie sanchez, mobility mgr, three rivers RC: I too would appreciate case studies from more rural agencies/areas as to how vanpooling and ridesharing can be set up.Richard Lee Fehr & Peers 2: Thanks to all - great chat!Jeremy Nagel: thanks!Diane Lackey, SCDOT: Thank youdaniel haufschild: Will the transit stop offer preferred parking for carpool travelers and how is it enforced? Who pays for the service? Automated?David Sorrell: Thank youdaniel haufschild: Considering a large % of carpoolers are not doing so because of a new program but already were (i.e. they are a couple), how do these programs get vehicles off the roads? ................
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