BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS’ AFFAIRS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
REVIEW OF THE REPORT ON THE NATIONAL CEMETERY SYSTEM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS, AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 613 OF THE VETERANS MILLENNIUM HEALTH CARE AND BENEFITS ACT, PUBLIC LAW 106?117
HEARING
BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
OCTOBER 16, 2002
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COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS
CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey, Chairman
BOB STUMP, Arizona MICHAEL BILIRAKIS, Florida TERRY EVERETT, Alabama STEPHEN E. BUYER, Indiana JACK QUINN, New York CLIFF STEARNS, Florida JERRY MORAN, Kansas HOWARD P. (BUCK) MCKEON, California JIM GIBBONS, Nevada MICHAEL K. SIMPSON, Idaho RICHARD H. BAKER, Louisiana ROB SIMMONS, Connecticut ANDER CRENSHAW, Florida HENRY E. BROWN, JR., South Carolina JEFF MILLER, Florida JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas
LANE EVANS, Illinois BOB FILNER, California LUIS V. GUTIERREZ, Illinois CORRINE BROWN, Florida JULIA CARSON, Indiana SILVESTRE REYES, Texas VIC SNYDER, Arkansas CIRO D. RODRIGUEZ, Texas RONNIE SHOWS, Mississippi STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts SHELLEY BERKLEY, Nevada BARON P. HILL, Indiana TOM UDALL, New Mexico SUSAN A. DAVIS, California
PATRICK E. RYAN, Chief Counsel and Staff Director
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C O N T E N T S
October 16, 2002
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Review of the Report on the National Cemetery System, from the Department of Veterans Affairs, as Required by Section 613 of the Veterans Millennium Health Care and Benefits Act, Public Law 106?117 ......................................... 1
OPENING STATEMENTS
Chairman Smith ...................................................................................................... 1 Prepared statement of Chairman Smith ........................................................ 27
Silvestre Reyes ......................................................................................................... 3 Prepared statement of Congressman Reyes ................................................... 29
Hon. Michael K. Simpson ........................................................................................ 4 Hon. Lane Evans ..................................................................................................... 4
Prepared statement of Congressman Evans .................................................. 30 Hon. Susan A. Davis ................................................................................................ 4
Prepared statement of Congresswoman Davis ............................................... 31 Hon. Tom Udall ....................................................................................................... 5
Prepared statement of Congressman Udall ................................................... 37 Hon. Jeff Miller ........................................................................................................ 5 Hon. Vic Snyder ....................................................................................................... 13 Hon. Ciro D. Rodriguez ........................................................................................... 18 Hon. Bob Filner, prepared statement of ................................................................ 32 Hon. Shelley Berkley, prepared statement of ........................................................ 36 Hon. Ander Crenshaw, prepared statement of ...................................................... 41
WITNESSES
Barile, Vincent L., Deputy Under Secretary for Memorial Affairs, Department of Veterans Affairs, accompanied by Daniel Tucker, Director, Office of Finance and Planning, National Cemetery Administration, Department of Veterans Affairs ................................................................................................... 13 Prepared statement of Mr. Barile ................................................................... 87
Jones, Richard, National Legislative Director, AMVETS .................................... 22 Prepared statement of Mr. Jones .................................................................... 94
Moore, William B., Pd.D., Vice President for Infrastructure Management, Logistics Management Institute, accompanied by Ronald W. Lind, Program Director, Organizational Improvement, Logistics Management Institute; and Donald C. Prettol, Research Fellow, Logistics Management Institute .... 5 Prepared statement of Mr. Moore, with attachment ..................................... 42
Lind, Ronald W., Program Director, Organizational Improvement, Logistics Management Institute ......................................................................................... 7 Prepared statement of Mr. Lind, with attachment ........................................ 65
Prettol, Donald C., Research Fellow, Logistics Management Institute .............. 8 Prepared statement of Mr. Prettol, with attachment .................................... 74
MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD
Statement: The American Legion ....................................................................................... 100
Written committee questions and their responses: Chairman Smith to Department of Veterans Affairs .................................... 103 Congressman Evans to Department of Veterans Affairs .............................. 106 Congressman Udall to Department of Veterans Affairs ............................... 109 Congressman Simpson to Department of Veterans Affairs .......................... 111
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Written committee questions and their responses--Continued Chairman Smith to AMVETS .......................................................................... 121
REVIEW OF THE REPORT ON THE NATIONAL
CEMETERY SYSTEM, FROM THE DEPART-
MENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS, AS RE-
QUIRED BY SECTION 613 OF THE VETERANS
MILLENNIUM HEALTH CARE AND BENEFITS
ACT, PUBLIC LAW 106?117
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2002 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS, Washington, DC
The committee met, pursuant to call, at 1:05 p.m., in room 334, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Christopher H. Smith (chairman of the committee) presiding.
Present: Representatives Smith, Simpson, Miller, Boozman, Evans, Reyes, Snyder, Rodriguez, Udall and Davis.
OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN SMITH
The CHAIRMAN. The hearing will come to order, and I want to apologize for being a little bit late. I was down the hall actually meeting with some of the widows from 9/11 who have an ongoing end of game problem of getting that 9/11 inspection or blue ribbon panel together. So we have been working on that issue. Again, I apologize for being late. This hearing, as you know, is on veterans' cemeteries, and I want to thank everyone for coming here today.
I want to welcome our distinguished witnesses, Dr. William Moore, Mr. Ronald Lind, Mr. Donald Prettol from Logistics Management Institute, and VA Under Secretary Vincent Barile, and Mr. Richard Jones, who will be testifying today.
In July of 1862, Congress enacted legislation authorizing the President to purchase, quote, ``cemetery grounds to be used as national cemeteries for soldiers who shall have died in the service of their country.'' That year, 14 cemeteries were established. To understand the importance of this action, we can recall the words spoken so eloquently by Abraham Lincoln at the dedication of the national cemetery at Gettysburg, when he said, ``We cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated far above our poor power to add or detract.''
Today there are 120 national cemeteries in 39 States, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. Thirty-three of these cemeteries are closed to new interments; 26 can accommodate only cremated remains and family members of those already interred, and 61, or roughly half, are open to all interments. In all, VA maintains 2.4
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