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| 10/8/2007 |
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| THE IMMIGRATION BATTLE WHO ARE THE IMMIGRANTS? |
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|FELIPE CALDERON, PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH |
|07:07:38 |
|Prepared by The Transcription Company, , (818) 848-6500 |
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|07:07:38 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) And thanks. We're back in Mexico City here in Zocalo Square, which |
|is at the center of the old part of the city. A giant Mexican flag flying |
|above us there. |
|GRAPHICS: GOOD MORNING AMERICA INSIDE MEXICO |
|GRAPHICS: THE IMMIGRATION BATTLE |
|GRAPHICS: WHO ARE THE IMMIGRANTS? |
|07:07:47 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) By some estimates, while we talk you today, nearly a thousand |
|Mexicans are making their way toward the US border, hearts pounding, |
|hoping to get to America. |
|07:07:56 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) And who are they? They are mostly male, mostly young and scared. |
|Listen to the breathing. 400 a year die attempting to cross to the United |
|States. And a surprise, most of them, in fact, were employed in Mexico, |
|but came to the US for more money, money they'll send back. It's a huge |
|boost to the Mexican economy, $20 billion a year. Another surprise, the |
|majority pay taxes, totaling billions, though it's estimated it still |
|costs American citizens about $60 a year per person to subsidize the |
|illegals' health and schooling. |
|07:08:34 PROTESTER |
|Close down the border. Close down the border. |
|07:08:38 PEDESTRIAN |
|They're not American citizens. These people do not belong in our |
|country. |
|07:08:42 PEDESTRIAN |
|They can't come over here and demand things. |
|07:08:46 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) So a lot of Americans are erupting in anger. While other say, 'Who |
|are we kidding?" It's too late to complain. Mayor Mike Bloomberg of New |
|York says the city would, quote, 'collapse" if they were deported. And |
|there's a report out of Washington that the apple growers there don't have |
|workers to collect the harvest. |
|07:09:05 ROD NILSESTUEN, SECRETARY |
|If you took away Hispanic labor from agriculture and from dairying in |
|Wisconsin, we'd be in crisis. There's just no two ways about that. |
|07:09:16 DONALD TAYLOR, LAS VEGAS CULINARY WORKERS UNION |
|Las Vegas would stop. We would stop in our tracks. They do everything |
|from cleaning a room to serving a cocktail to cooking a meal to serving a |
|meal to cleaning the casino floor. |
|07:09:31 JOHN ROSENOW, WISCONSIN DAIRY FARMER |
|It's dirty. It's, it sometimes is very cold, sometimes it's very warm. |
|07:09:31 TERRY MORAN, ABC NEWS |
|(OC) And Americans don't really wanna do that anymore. |
|07:09:33 JOHN ROSENOW |
|I haven't been able to find them. |
|07:09:37 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) And yet fuelled by anger, the US is cracking down. Even building a |
|700-mile fence on the border at an estimated cost of $10 to $50 billion |
|over the next 25 years. Will that work? What is the answer? And what |
|can Mexico do? |
|07:09:57 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) And those are exactly the questions we wanted to bring to the |
|president of this country whose offices are here in the national palace. |
|He has said that the United States can build its 700-mile fence for |
|billions of billions of dollars and ramp up deportations, but it's not |
|going to solve this problem. |
|GRAPHICS: GOOD MORNING AMERICA EXCLUSIVE |
|GRAPHICS: ONE-ON-ONE WITH MEXICAN PRESIDENT |
|07:10:13 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) His name, President Felipe Calderon. |
|07:10:16 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) He is the new action president with high approval ratings for his |
|effort to combat drug, crime and corruption. He is also a man with a |
|graduate degree from Harvard University, who thinks the US approach to |
|ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is doomed. |
|07:10:29 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) What are you going to do about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION into America |
|from Mexico? |
|07:10:35 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) Felipe Calderon says it's time to stop yelling at each other and |
|face the facts. |
|07:10:40 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON, MEXICO |
|It's impossible to stop that by decree. It's impossible to try to stop |
|that with a fence. Why? Because the capital in America needs Mexican |
|workers. And Mexican workers needs (sic) opportunity of jobs. Capital |
|and labor are like right shoe and left shoe, and one needs each, the |
|other. I, I don't... |
|07:11:04 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) Do you feel that they have a right to come into the United States? |
|07:11:08 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON |
|No. What I, what I think is it's impossible to stop that. It's natural. |
|It's an economic phenomenon. |
|07:11:15 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) So it's inevitable. It's not a question. |
|07:11:17 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON |
|It's, yes, it's inevitable. It's not a question of... |
|07:11:21 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) Illegal or not. |
|07:11:23 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) He even mentioned that apple harvest crisis in Washington state. |
|07:11:27 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON |
|The people of Washington state say that the apples of Washington are the |
|best of the world. And probably, that is true. Well, this year, those |
|apple (sic) are still in the trees. And the problem is there is not |
|enough Mexican labor or Mexican workers in order to work in the fields. |
|07:11:50 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) It is said in the United States that the 20 billion or so remitted |
|from illegal workers in the United States to, to their relatives here in |
|Mexico is very important to the Mexican economy. It's the second most |
|important source of income to the Mexican economy. Therefore, it's in the |
|interest of Mexico to keep them in America... |
|07:12:11 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON |
|That is... |
|07:12:12 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) ...and get the money. |
|07:12:13 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON |
|That is absolutely false. You know, Mexico is losing with every single |
|Mexican crossing the border. Why? Because it's the best of our people, |
|it's the youngest people, it's the bravest people, it's the strongest |
|people, or that is a, it's a, that is a false argument. I, I don't want |
|to see Mexico as a permanent provider of workers to the United States. I |
|want to build the conditions in Mexico to provide the opportunities here |
|in our land. |
|07:12:45 DIANE SAWYER |
|(OC) So can you keep the, what, 300,000 to 400,000 a year, can you keep |
|them here? Can you keep them from coming to the United States? |
|07:12:54 PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON |
|I will try do so in the future. Of, of course, it's impossible to do |
|now. It's impossible to stop. I don't know, 300,000 or 400,000, nobody |
|knows exactly how much people is - are trying to, to leave the country. |
|But in the future, I can imagine a Mexico with enough economic growth in |
|order to provide for all of them, enough conditions for prosperity. And |
|that is possible, Diane. |
|07:13:26 DIANE SAWYER |
|(VO) He says he's already created 900,000 new jobs. And he says this is |
|an irony. With the declining birth rate in Mexico and new opportunities |
|here, in a decade, the problem of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION could be over, and |
|the US will be left with a long, expensive fence. |
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