UNCONFIRMED MINUTES



UNCONFIRMED MINUTES

6-10 OCTOBER 2008

WORKPIA YOKOHAMA

YOKOHAMA JAPAN

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, 6 OCTOBER 2008 (OPEN SESSION)

1. Opening Comments

1. Call to Order/Quorum Check

1. The Composites Task Group Meeting was called to order by Mike Bemis at 9:00 am. A quorum of qualifying members was established. 15 Primes were present.

2. Introductions

1. Routing of Attendance List

2. The attendance list was routed for signatures. The following were in attendance.

|User Members Present |

|Name | |Company |

|Mike |Bemis |Goodrich Aerostructures |

|Tara |Campbell |Rolls Royce plc |

|Jeff |Conrad |Cessna Aircraft Co. |

|Kevin |Dowling |Spirit AeroSystems |

|Joe |Dwyer |Rolls Royce Corp. |

|Kevin |Elston |Spirit AeroSystems |

|Marcel |Francois |SAFRAN |

|Angie |Gabriel |The Boeing Company |

|Udo |Goessler |EUROCOPTER |

|Robin |Gorman |The Boeing Company |

|Brett |Hemingway |BAE Systems |

|Martha |Hogan Battisti |The Boeing Company |

|Mark |Jackson |Vought Aircraft |

|John |Key |Bell Helicopter |

|Betty |Kocsis |Honeywell |

|Eric |LeFort |SONACA S.A. |

|Lance |Loeks |The Boeing Company |

|Leah |Markowitz |Honeywell |

|Andreas |Mastorakis |GE Aviation |

|Angelina |Mendoza |Goodrich |

|Doug |Prenovost |Northrop Grumman San Clemente CA |

|David |Watson |Bombardier, Inc. |

|Other Participants/Members Present |

|Name | |Company |

|Miguel |Gerdel |Thermal Structures |

|Dave |Gray |Mitchell Labs |

|Hidenori |Kawai |Nippi Corporation |

|Yosushi |Kakuda |Fuji Heavy Industries |

|Shohei |Kowamura |Fujwara Co. Ltd. |

|Katsuyoshi |Moriya |IHI Aerospace Tomioka Japan |

|Yosuke |Miyazaki |Kawasaki Heavy Industries |

|Penny |Tweedie |CYTEC Engineered Materials (Havre de Grace MD) |

|Yasuhiro |Yamaguchi |KYC-Japan |

|Yashinori |Yamagishi |Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. |

|Coleen |Saunders |Toray Composites America Inc. |

|Kazuyuki |Yamamoto |KHI Kawasaki Heavy Ind. Ltd |

|Masazumi |Tokunoh |Toray Industries Japan |

|PRI Staff Present |

|Rebekah Foutz |PRI Staff (Warrendale, PA) |

3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes

1. The minutes from the July 2008 Composites Task Group Meeting were reviewed. A motion was made for approval of the minutes, seconded, and all were in favor with no disapprovals. Therefore, the minutes were approved as written. All meeting minutes will be available on the PRI web site at pri-.

4. Review of Agenda

1. The Staff Engineer (Rebekah Foutz) reviewed the agenda for this Composites Task Group for this week with the Task Group members present.

2. STAFF / AUDITOR REPORT

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1. Items of Interest Since July 2008

1. Change of positions: Chair (Mike Bemis – Goodrich), Vice Chair (Kevin Dowling – Spirit AeroSystems), Secretary (Leah Markowitz – Honeywell).

2. 13 Primes have mandated AC7118 Rev A. A list of Primes that have mandated (Prime Matrix) Nadcap accreditation can be found on pri-. Cessna announced that they are close to mandating Nadcap for Composites.

2. 2008 Audit Projections – 147

1. Currently 97% of the projected audits have been conducted/scheduled.

68 certificates were issued. Pareto is based on 188 audits Jan-2007 to Sept-2008. The Boeing Company asked for a Pareto of findings for the recent period prior to the conference in an effort to identify any trends. Top 10 NCRs will also be broken out to show the top 10 NCRs since the last Nadcap meeting. This information will begin to be presented at the February 2009 Nadcap meeting.

Action Item – Present Top 10 NCRs for the period of October 2008 through January 2009 at next Nadcap meeting. (PRI, Due – 16 February 2009)

3. Pareto of Nonconformances

1. An updated NCR Pareto chart was presented which detailed the most recurring findings to date for Composites audits (Jan to Sept-17th 2008). The Paragraph in which findings were most prevalent was 11.3.2 – Are document work instructions available to operator and does the procedure(s) accurately reflects the manufacturing process?

The second one is 12a.-g.2.1 Do drawing/design/specification requirements and revision on the purchase order match the received material?

Common problems are EMA requirements and the storage and handling of material. The Task Group will review the EMA requirements and align the interpretation and improve the Audit Handbook to better clarify what information is to be found in an EMA procedure.

2. This presentation, including the specific questions, can be viewed on under Public Documents – Composites.

4. Auditor Base Status

1. The current auditor base status was presented to the Task Group. There are currently 5 auditors with one located in the Europe Sector and 4 located in the Americas Sector. Two auditor interviews are planned.

5. ITAR/EAR

1. As of October 2008 there are 143 composite audits scheduled/conducted.

2. 50 have no ITAR/EAR restrictions.

3. 90 have restrictions but also have enough unrestricted product that can support a Nadcap audit.

4. 3 audits do not have enough non-ITAR/EAR based product to support a Nadcap audit.

5. Next meeting: Dallas, Texas - February 16-20 2009. All three groups will be present (AC7118, AC7124, AC7122).

3. METRICS

1. Total Supplier cycle time – Initial audits – Red

1. Goal is to have an average cycle time ................
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