UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
JULY 19, 2004
CROWNE PLAZA UNION STATION
INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, APRIL 19, 2004:
1.0 Call meeting to order
The following representatives were in attendance:
Ward Barcafer The Boeing Company
Wayne Canary Rolls-Royce
Rick Carver Northrop Grumman
Chet Date Honeywell
Chris Diepenbrock The Boeing Company
Jim Doherty GEAE
Ed Englehard Owego Heat Treat, Inc.
Mark Gleason GEAE
John Gourley Honeywell
Debra Harrison DCMA
Keith Kastner Cessna Aircraft
Phil Keown GEAE
Lance Loeks The Boeing Company
Doug Matson The Boeing Company
John McBrien GSA
Steve Meyer Eaton Aerospace
Tom Murphy Sikorsky Aircraft
Ed Nellans Rockwell Collins
Jay Park Northrop Grumman
Manfred Podlech MTU Aero Engines
Ken Prather Vought Aircraft
Chatt Rhodes Cessna Aircraft
Dan Smith GEAE
David Soong Hamilton Sundstrand
Mike Spencer Vought Aircraft
Camille Valmy Airbus
Jerry Wahlin AAA Plating
Kevin Ward Goodrich
PRI Staff in Attendance:
Anne Allen
Jerry Aston
Mark Aubele
Jim Bennett
Don Buehler
Jeff Conrad
Apryle Craig
Bill Dumas
Michael Forman
Lisa Glavan
Mike Graham
Arshad Hafeez
Judy Herilla
Jennifer Kornrumpf
Jim Lewis
David Luoni
Heather Meyer
Scott Nelson
Keith Purnell
Seema Saleem
Glenn Shultz
Ian Simpson
2.0 Review Agenda
3.0 Review pertinent issues from NMC Steering Committee meeting
A presentation was given by Arshad Hafeez. Chronic areas of concern were discussed with regards to cycle time and on-time accreditations. For more details see attached presentation.
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4.0 NMC Initiative reports pertinent to task group activity:
a) Language Team
A presentation was given by Camille Valmy. As a whole the language team has not discussed final recommendations. For more detail please see attached presentation.
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b) Cause & Effect Team
A presentation was given by Jim Doherty. A proposal was developed by the team and two pilots were conducted. A list of best practices was devised from the two pilots conducted. A recommendation was made that all task groups try the cause and effect best practices exercise.
ACTION ITEM: All task groups to discuss the use of the Cause and Effect exercise at the next Nadcap meeting.
For more information please see the attached presentation.
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c) Baseline audit criteria – next steps
Four suppliers will be piloting the baseline audit criteria. Two of the suppliers are US based and two suppliers are UK based. All four pilot audits should be complete by the end of August. Once the audits are complete the data will be analyzed and a report will be given at the October Nadcap meeting.
5.0 Chemical Processing “Deep Dive”
This is a pilot process for sharing task group best practices and/or focusing on RCCA for areas of concern and the recovery plan. Using the metrics as the baseline provides a focused presentation addressing:
a) RCCA analysis and plan to move metrics status to YELLOW
b) Practices deemed by the task group as best and why they are thought to be
best.
c) Supplier Support role
d) Task Group issues requiring NMC support
A presentation was given by Chemical Processing Task Group Chair Ward Barcafer. The objectives of the task group are to get the red out of their metrics, increase audit flow through-put, and maintain audit quality. Two brainstorming sessions were conducted in which 94 areas of concern were listed. The task group has since been working these items to help come up with ways to get the metrics out of the red. The task group has also developed supplier response guidelines and guidelines for reviewing audit packages. For more detailed information please see attached presentation.
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6.0 Task Group Issues:
Commodity report out, if one or both of the following are applicable:
1. Detailed action plan for metrics which are RED (use 3 square report format)
2. Task Group issues requiring NMC support
AQS – The task group does not currently have metrics, but is looking into developing metrics and will give a metric report out in October.
CT – The task group is red on certs issued and cycle time is going from red to yellow. The task group is looking for Prime Support from Northrop Grumman and Bell Helicopter who currently show mandates in Coatings but do not participate on the task group.
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COMP – The task group does not currently have any metrics. Airbus is currently mandating for Composites and the task group is predicting green metrics for October.
ETG – The task group does not currently have any metrics as they are still in the start up phase. The task group is currently working on finishing their checklists.
HT – The task group is red on certs issued on time but are making progress to move the metric into the yellow. Laura Fisher was given full delegation and John Ewing was given delegation for minors. The task group also accepted five AECMA-PRO auditors who went through the Nadcap auditor hiring process.
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FAST – The task group is still in the start up phase and currently have no metrics.
FLU – The task group does not currently have metrics however they have been looking at audit cycle time as audits are taking 100 days (Supplier time is 50 days, Staff time is 30 days, task group time is 20 days).
MTL – The task group is currently red in staff cycle time. This is currently being worked on and has gone from 70 days to 20 days per audit.
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NMSE – The task group is currently red on certs issued on time. The task group is working on ways to reduce cycle time. Michael Forman was given full delegation.
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NDT – The task group is currently red on certs issued on time. The task group is working on ways to improve cycle time and on-time accreditations. The task group brought up an issue to NMC that suppliers need to schedule audits in a timely fashion and asked the NMC Primes to support this issue.
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ACTION ITEM: PRI to look into providing Primes a report of suppliers who’s accreditations are going to expire.
WLD – The task group currently has no red metrics. An issue was brought forward to the NMC to ask for participation from Bell Helicopter.
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ACTION ITEM: Chet Daté to take issue of Bell Helicopter non-participation to NESPB.
7.0 Supplier Support Committee issues needed to be addressed by the NMC
The SSC is staying active and in touch with NMC members. The SSC currently has one sub-group with NMC representation. The SSC is also currently working on a newsletter and encourage suppliers to participate in the task group meetings. The SSC is also encouraging Primes to be more proactive with suppliers.
It was noted that a proposal is going to be submitted to the SSC for an NDT SSC sub-committee and will be presented to the SSC and NMC at the October meeting.
A new business item was brought up regarding supplier advisories discrepancies.
ACTION: Doug Matson to provide NMC examples of supplier advisory discrepancies at the next NMC teleconference.
8.0 Close Meeting
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