UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
25-29 February 2008
holiday inn hotel rome
rome, italy
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, 25 FEBRUARY 2008 (CLOSED SESSION)
A Closed meeting was held with only Primes attending. Audits in Task Group and Staff Engineer Review were reviewed. The results of an Auditor Interview were discussed. Auditor statistics were reviewed to establish auditor performance since October 2007. Staff Engineer Delegation status and maintenance data was reviewed.
Action Item: Identify concerns with identification of consumable goods and address this issue via question in the audit checklist. (Lance Loeks, Kevin Dowling, Joe Dwyer) [Note: Suggested Question – Does the supplier have in place a procedure to make sure that the correct material is used?]
Action Item: Need to examine the right way to address the pump action dispensers. Audit handbook clarification needs to be developed and all references in the handbook to pump dispensers need to be aligned. (Mike Bemis, Pete Atwell, Marty Couey)
Action Item: Review data to determine how often an auditor has been paired with a facility more than once. (PRI)
MONDAY, 25 FEBRUARY 2008 (OPEN SESSION)
1. Opening Comments
1. Call to Order/Quorum Check
The Composites Task Group Meeting was called to order by David Watson at 2:00 pm. A quorum of qualifying members was established. 19 primes
1. Introductions
2. Routing of Attendance List
The attendance list was routed for signatures.
|User Members Present |
|Name | |Company |
|Peter |Atwell |Airbus |
|Mike |Bemis |Goodrich Aerostructures |
|Peter |Bonarrigo |Bombardier |
|Sharon |Bull |Rolls Royce plc |
|Tara |Campbell |Rolls Royce plc |
|David |Constable |Airbus |
|Jeff |Conrad |Cessna Aircraft Co. |
|Marty |Couey |Hawker Beechcraft |
|Lucia |Cutillo |Alenia Aeronautica |
|Marsha |Davis |Lockheed Martin |
|Laurent |Dejaie |Sonaca |
|Kevin |Dowling |Spirit AeroSystems |
|Joe |Dwyer |Rolls Royce |
|M’hamed |El Haouari |Bombardier Aerospace (Canada) |
|Marcel |Francois |SAFRAN Group |
|Angie |Gabriel |The Boeing Company |
|Fabio |Gasparotto |The Boeing Company - HdH |
|Udo |Goessler |Eurocopter |
|Robin |Gorman |The Boeing Company |
|Olivier |Goupillon |Eurocopter |
|Brett |Hemingway |BAE Systems |
|Mark |Jackson |Vought |
|Dennis |Keefe |GE Aviation Hamble LTD |
|Dr. Wolfgang |Kerfin |EADS/MAS |
|John |Key |Bell Helicopter Textron |
|Betty |Kocsis |Honeywell |
|Frank |Lennert |The Boeing Company |
|Ron |Levi |Lockheed Martin |
|Lance |Loeks |The Boeing Company |
|William |Macias |Goodrich |
|Leah |Markowitz |Honeywell |
|Luigi |Di Martino |The Boeing Company |
|Federico |Masellis |Alenia Aeronautica |
|Andreas |Mastorakis |GE Aviation |
|Angelina |Mendoza |Goodrich |
|Donald |Missel |Lockheed Martin |
|Keith |Panuska |Lockheed Martin |
|Linda |Paranthoen |Latecoere |
|Alberto |Portal |EADS (MTAD) |
|Doug |Prenovost |Northrop Grumman |
|Engin |Sabuncu |Cessna Aircraft Co. |
|Kevin |Shilling |The Boeing Company |
|David |Watson |Bombardier |
|Other Participants/Members Present |
|Name | |Company |
|Stephen |Davies |Hexcel |
|Jean-Luc |Forget |Structil |
|Roger |Francombe |Advance Composites Group |
|Miguel |Gerdel |Thermal Structures |
|Dave |Gray |Mitchell Labs |
|Hiroki |Hashitsume |Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, LDT |
|Regine |Kocklenberg |Hexcel Composites |
|Carmela Ferentz |Kuperberg |IAI |
|Louis |Lagarenne |3M Fance |
|Robert |Lunn |Huntsman Advance Materials |
|June |Mason |Albany Engineered Composites |
|Hitoshi |Nada |Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, LTD |
|Daniel |Ng |Hexcel |
|Krish |Patni |D-J Engineering |
|John |Riddell |St. Bernard Composites LTD |
|Don |Russell |Toray Composites |
|Steve |Schrameyer |Cytec Engineered Materials |
|Mike |Watts |GKN Aerospace Services |
|PRI Staff Present |
|Rebekah Foutz |PRI Staff (Warrendale, PA) |
3. Review of Agenda
The Staff Engineer (Rebekah Foutz) reviewed the agenda for this Composites Task Group, February 2008, Nadcap meeting in Rome, Italy with the Task Group members present.
4. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes
The minutes from the 22 – 26 October 2007 Composites Task Group Meeting were reviewed. A motion was made for approval of the minutes, seconded, and all were in favor with no disapprovals. Therefore, the minutes were approved as written. All meeting minutes will be available on the PRI web site at pri-.
5. Approval of New Voting Members
The following members were approved by the Task Group…
John Key Jr. – Bell Helicopter Textron – User Voting Member
Jamar Johnson – Bell Helicopter Textron – Alternate User Voting Member
Steve Schrameyer – Supplier Voting Member – Cytec Engineered Materials
Jeff Conrad – Cessna Aircraft Company – User Voting Member
Engin Sabuncu – Cessna Aircraft Company – Alternate User Voting Member
Tara Campbell – Rolls Royce plc – User Voting Member
2. STAFF/AUDITOR REPORT
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1. Specific items of interest to the Composites Task Group since July 2007 included:
1. 12 Primes have mandated AC7118 Rev A. A list of Primes that have mandated (Prime Matrix) Nadcap accreditation can be found on pri-.
2. 2008 Audit Projections
• 147 Projected
• Currently 85% of the projected audits have been conducted/scheduled.
3. Pareto of Nonconformances
• An updated NCR Pareto chart was presented which detailed the most recurring findings to date for Composites audits. The Paragraph in which findings were most prevalent was 11.3.2 – Are document work instructions available to operator and does the procedure(s) accurately reflect the manufacturing process?
• This presentation, including the specific questions, can be viewed on under Public Documents – Composites.
• A presentation that provides additional clarification on Environmentally Monitored Areas (EMA) can also be viewed on under Public Documents – Composites.
4. Auditor Base Status
5. The current auditor base status was presented to the Task Group. There are currently 7 auditors with one located in the Europe Sector and 5 located in the Americas Sector.
6. ITAR/EAR
1. 125 composite audits scheduled/conducted
2. 34 (27%) have no ITAR/EAR restrictions
Action Item: The NDT Task Group has a flyer that is circulated prior to every Nadcap meeting. In that flyer they include various facts and helpful information in regards to the NDT Task Group. Determine what needs to be done to develop a similar flyer for the Composite Task Group. (PRI, Angie Mendoza, Pete Atwell, Miguel Gerdel and John Riddell)
3. METRICS
1. PRI presented the Composites Task Group metrics and reviewed the status of each.
▪ Total Supplier cycle time - Initial audits – Green
- Goal is to have an average cycle time ................
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