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The time is 8:52. We have a member of the public who has come to spaes speak. Mr. Daiven port.
Clarence daiven port .
The clock is ticking you have three minutes.
I have flooding in my home. My dish live on the county road. Storm water flood from the south end of adell avenue going north. Catch base is my drive Bypassed that came into my driveway. Flooded my garage, car and house. They've been irrigating the house trying to dry it out. I've been living with that stuff and if you have a wife and you come home you know what you're dealing. I talked to your public director and -- cleaning the storm drain. Storm drain -- Atlanta. They're pulling out hub caps. He said he can't give any indication whether he's liable for it. I said that's passed my house the street escape is in the middle of the road. Storm water did not into the drain it bypassed it and into my home and my grabbing my grabbing door is bsh garage door is bent. That's my statement. I need somebody to give me some answers. That's what I'm here for. Counc Ms. Cusack came to my home.
You still have a minute left if you have anything fourth say?
You can run your whole time out.
Okay. I work for the city that length of time and I worked with the county on different projects. I was public works director for about 20 years. I calm up through the ranks -- came up through the ranks. I feel like I'm thrown to the side because I can't get anybody to answer. We know the road is a problem. The storm drains is a problem and somebody needs to address the issue. Tell me something or come talk to my wife and live with my wife.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you sir.
Any other Peace Corp public par tis -- participation.
No sir. We will be in recess for the next 5 minutes. We will start the meeting at 9:00.
Time is 9:04 a.m.. May I -- today's invocation and Pledge of Allegiance led by Owen Stricklin. If the council would please rise.
Let us pray together. While lord you have given us incredible bhufl day. The opportunity laying before us in this day. We pray you will be with those in this chamber and give them wisdom and bless them with your love and grace and comfort. Thank you for your blesz blessings on all of us. We want to give you all the praise and glory in thy holy name. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
Thank you. >> Okay. If I could have a roll call please.
Absolutely.
Mr. Lowry.
Mr. Patterson? Present.
Mr. Wagner? Present .
Mr. Can yells?
Mr. Davis.
I am here.
All present.
Thank you. Before we we go to pulling our consent agenda item. Number 18 is pulled since we have a bunch of staff members here we'll jump ahead to 8 first before item one. 15 A has been added to the consent agenda. For anybody listening or keeping track here. With that we will start with Mr. Lowry. Any consent items?
None.
Mr. Patterson? Mr. Wagner? >> Ms. Cusack.
Mr. Daniels. Pull
Pull them all. >>Ly pull them all unless you resend that.
Yeah.
None.
He did not recitizened
We will be pulling all ooments. >> You sure
Entirely.
Ms. Denys.
Wow I was going to take -- but --
It's going to be a long day.
Mr. Dinneen.
If we can this is a good item for us today. Mr. Motes will get up in a second and introduce everyone and talk about the settlement we have with the fire fighters. This is the final contract for settlement that we've had in the ones that are out there in terms of the unions. A multi year contract. Considering the conditions in it I think it's both -- it's good on both sides. Respect it is fact that cloinl do right by the employees and that the employees recognize and accept those things in terms of wages and benefits what the county afford and offer. Tom?
Good morning. Tom Motes resource direct. Pleased to be here with the ratification for the IFF for the firefighters and lieutenants. This is a two year agreement. Wages that are they've accepted. We're please wed received this agreement. I would like to thank Jeff who is here and Mike england who is on the bargaining team. Did a great job. With that I'd like to turn it to --
Good morning. I would like to say we appreciate once again the professional and respectful negotiates notions we had. We are glade to wrap it up. This is the quickest we've had a contract I've been involved in. It's nice to get over with. Thank you, everybody.
Thank you. Any other staff report on this?
I will -- we do have to have a motion for ratification?
Correct.
I will entertain said motion.
I move we ratify the agreement with the firefighters and lieutenants.
Motion for ratification and Second second by Mr. Lowry.
Sne other discussion Ms. Ms. Cusack.
As a council I'm so pleased we have moved in this direction. I'm thankful the citizens of Volusia County are createful for the service that are gr gateful for the service being provided. I'm delighted to support this ratification and to say to the staff and laber as it relates to the firefighters. I want you to know your work is appreciated. We recognize what you do is what we all want to happen. We want to be safe and you run two what we run from. We're grateful for your service. We acknowledge you and pleased you have ratified this contract and agreement and do the business of the people and take care of you and your families and so we're proud of the work you do. Thank you.
Thank you.
Mr. Daniels.
Yes. I have a question Mr. Raktwal if you would. Since the fire fighter issue came up. One thing that I keep hearing is complaints about the fire station out there on 40. Is there anything we can do about that given the fact we will probably be increasing fees for the unincorporated area.
We do have a motion on the floor. We can take this up afterwards.
Point of order. If we can --
I will take it up later. That's fine.
Any further discussion on the ratification?
Seeing as to none. All those in favor signify by aye. Opposed. So carried Mr. Daniels you have the floor.
Where are we on that? Quick question?
Assuming that the proposal gets passed to the budget, process, the whole intent at the time was now we know what our funding is going to be for the next several years and that allows us to make plans. As we discussed talt time the amount -- at the time the amount of money we get probably won't replace fire stations but allows us to start the cost of planning and relocated to be better suited. Possible repairs to the existing fire stations we intend to keep where they're at.
There's a number of people out there in your planning, let's take them into consideration because they are very concerned.
We are. That particular station is in question way back up into a subdivision. A classic example of land given as part of the volunteer system that we mother offed out of -- morphed out of. And we're hoping to have more aven tajs location and do better with our response times.
We're also dealing with the fact there was a miscalculation of the prop aproximate causers office. We were bringing in -- less than this was never a big budget. It was one to make it work. It wouldn't have extra money. We're about,000 less than we thought. We'll take that under consideration when making changes.
Thank you.
Item 1 minutes of July 16, 2015. Any editing changes to the record?
Move approval. >>
All those in favor signify by aye. Opposed, so carried.
Item 2.
Mr. Chair? I'd like to weave the rules and move item #4shgs.
Repeat the request?
The request is to waive the rules.
Time certain of 2:30. I need a second.
There's a motion to move item #4shgs up for discussion.
A section second by Ms. Ms. Denys.
All those in favor signify by aye. Opposed. So moved. We are aware that individuals are speak on this matter are not here. For the presentation. You still have the mroor .
Mr. Chair I'd like to move to postpone this indefinitely this item.
Mesquite waiter quality --
A motion to postpone indefinitely.
Second.
I would like -- why do you want to postpone this indefinitely, sir?
I think there's some based upon information I just recently became aware of yesterday and then there's a lot of questions. I think that it needs to be looked at carefully and brought back. Right now I'm take it off the agenda. I don't want it to come back right now.
Okay. If I may address that. The reason why this thing was brought forth to the agenda today, actually been trying to get on the agenda for a couple of weeks. Is not more from anything more from the council. This is a process we have to go through to get things done. There's been a lot of discussion about peer review, tech dal -- technical reviews and we want that. And we've gone to St. Johns water management and the Canaveral seashore and the -- and the director said we would love to look at this program but we need you to go through the council and say yes we'lled like have to have more information and push it forward so they can do the peer review. That's what they're asking for. The vouk and the government do not do peer reviews so we have to go through a organization that does. That's why we brought that here because we're at a stop to get a peer review. The way the bureaucracy is set up. That's why this is actually here. Not here to ask for endorsement. Not here to ask for money. Here to ask for the blessing to go forth so we can get the peer reviews done. That's what we're looking for doing. Once all that information is done. The technical reviews are done and everything is done that way. Then it can come back to council here is all the data you wanted and more fgs you need and we can make a decision on to move forward or not. That's exactly why this thing is here today. Not here because wi want endorsement. Not here because we want you to give money. Not here for any of that. Just here to say yes, we agree with the ideas of getting this goals, so to speak, where you agree with the goals of the Indian River lagoon to Gettis it cleaned up. We -- to get it cleaned up. We can't go any farther until we get a blessing. Ms. Cusack.
Thank you. I'm opposed to the motion on the floor. Simply because we we have advertised this. Citizens who are interested in this project. What would hamper us as being stewards of this government that we would to not hear information that might be able to help us make informed decisions about something. I don't see the need to say we'll just pull it and no we won't hear it. That's one, maybe, two, may four folk opinion. I don't think that's right. When folk come to us with this sincere desire to make things better that we ought to be inclusive enough to hear what they say. We've advertised this to do a presentation and we ought to be open finded enough. I would be opposed to that motion.
Thank you.
Yes, sir?
I think what the presentation we're going to get today is very one sided. There's a lot of other information that needs to come forward before I would even consider hearing this. I don't know the difference between supporting and blessing. To me it the same thing. I'm not willing to do that on this issue. I met with the two gentlemen. I wasn't impressed with what they had to say. The science just wasn't there for me to do it. That is why -- if they want to go off -- if you're involved with it, your guys want to go off and develop something, that's fine. Go forth, multiply and prosper for all I care. I don't want the county council to have to deal with it. Take a vote and if I get voted down, that's fine.
Ms. Ms. Denys?
I second the motion and this is the first time I've heard language that you've used we on this project because it was a surprise to me honestly when I met with mrshgs Pate Tuesday an given the white paper on what the -- what the project was. I'm concerned this organization as a #5 #0 C 3 nonprofit only been exist tense for three months. That would stop me going forward on this. As I was ring on it. With the echo projects. We require two years as a nonprofit status to review an application for ECHO. This is this is disconcerning. And to find out our chair was involved and not disclosed so much so that I believe and I would like to make a recommendation for the charter review committee. It's time we look at anette things policy for -- an ethics policy. Full disclosure should have been out there. We bounld where we are now with the discomfort that exists on this issue. Council member we talked about ethics policy we have a charity review coming up. And it will take our hands off it. Pointing a blue ethics committee. Nothing happened. I think in itself without disclosure is a poster child goings going forth. That is my suggestion. I -- I'm uncomfortable. I think full disclosure. That's why I'm seconding the motion and support it.
Mr. Daniels?
Thank you. I don't see the harm in hearing the presentation. The Volusia County council has no say whether or not this project goes forward. It would go to the Indian River lagoon technical review committee composed of scientists who would review the proposal and determine its merits and cost and do and evaluation of it and it will go to a mj management council made up of the #350e78s from the bureaucracies -- the peoples of the bureaucracies that are on the Indian River lagoon council. The St. Johns river management district and four of the five counties that border the Indian River lagoon including Volusia County. That would be the ones making the decision. I don't see -- we don't really need to take a position on it one way or the other. We're not scientists. We don't know enough to take a position. It would be interesting to hear what the proposal is.
Mr. Wagner?
I already told Tom I would listen to the proposal. I assured him I would hear it out. I can't go back on my word to him. I didn't know you were apart of it. I'm okay with that.
I had discussion with staff members about this project. Mr. Connors and I had a discussion about it.
It should -- council member Ms. Denys part --
Especially on the agenda item to say you're personally involved as a board of directors should have been disclosed.
I can appreciate that. No harm no foul to me.
I made no bones about it --
I'm glad you're taking the initiative.
Two weeks ago I made no bones about it that I wanted to get this on the agenda. Ms. Ms. Cusack was aware I was involved in it two years ago. I apologize to you and others that did not know that. Sunshine law --
How does one council member know and the others don't mp
She was hat at that time meeting when it was discussed two years ago. I made no bones about it. I was not hiding the fact I was on the board. Just on the board. That's it. All right Mr. Daniels further discussion?
One final thing. I was aware of your involvement. Not sure exactly where I heard it. Been awe water of it all along. Not a surprise to me. I gather it was your idea. It's -- I've known it from the first time I heard about the proposal that you were involved. Am sorry it is to others. Not -- it it wouldn't me.
The emotionen to want floor is to remove -- motion on the floor to remove item 44 from the agenda. All those in favor signify by aye. All those opposed. So it would be 4-3. Ms. Ms. Denys, Mr. Hour Lowry opposed. Mr. Patter -- it will stay on the aagenda. Item #4shgs.
Item 2. Allow county flee employees to become candidates -- Mr. Dinneen?
This is the follow up to the discussion we had about the question of whether this only pertains to the elected department heads. What I greed I would bring forward in Dan's office worked with me to coordinating. That language from my perspective. From my perspective would work and not interfere with my ability to manage my employee ifs they wanted to run for one of those elected department head positions. What I show was the guidelines which it would work. The seat would be open so the person would be have left office, died in office or decided they're not going to run and that the person that would be running would not have to resign. Do have provision where they need to take off several weeks before either primary or the election. A safe guard so they don't get attempted to do anything on the job. Not allowed to do anything politically on the job anyway. This is really how if you were going to make chose changes in the merit system I think would work so I could manage and the person could run.
Mr. Eckert any comment? Your name is listed.
No sir I'll respond to any questions.
Any others we will close the staff reporting. Open the public participation. We do have one member. Anybody else who wishes to speak on this matter?
No, sir.
Mr. Ford. If you would please come forward. State your name and position. >>Al election forward -- Al election Ford. I don't know ifny letter from June got this started. I think it will advance the conversation. I supportive of this ordnance. Not sure even as written it goes far enough to be exist with a charter. You have a charter review commission and I think it should be addressed at ch review commission. If this is the policy -- I think the voters should be more specific in the charter limited to this extend. The charters brought enough to be read that some of the limitations in place are not real legal under our governing document. The constitution of our county. If you ve any questions I'll address them if not I'll sit down looks like you have a long meeting.
Mr. Ms. Denys, d are you dardzing him? We will close public hearing.
Mr. Ford made that comment or the concern I have goes back to our charter review. I think this issue belongs to our charter review and not here. I still believe that. I'm not going to be supporting it because I think at the end there's a reason this exists to begin with. To insulate to a hostile work environment which could happen. Some of us have been in the arena multiple times. Things happen. I just doeng don't believe there's a way to insulate the day-to-day operations from this. There's a reason it was in a charter. It was included back in a charter with an amendment. Any discussion on this should go back to the charter review committee. We have, again, being seat there had. A naufal organization. I'm not going to -- a neutral organization. I'm not going to support it.
Thank you. Mr. Daniels?
I agree with Ms. Ms. Denys. I think it should go to charter review so we understand fully what the ramification would be any time you run for office it involves risk. It involves sacrifice. A lot of people who run they take income hits. They -- that's part of the game. Nobody feels sorry for you for that. You asked for it. It's just part of it . If you are going to be running, you have to be willing to take the good along with the bad having somebody that 1 running for -- that is running for county office on the county payroll seems to be vaguely wrong. You went already occupy the job. It blurs the lines between applicants and government. You may have bsh politics and government. May have more than one person from bureaucracy. Lisa Louis or somebody else from the supervisor elections office to run. What will relationships be then? It will be a mess through the next election. I think the policy was instituted for good reasons as Mr. Ford pointed out. It may need adjustment during charter review. For now to make piecemeal changes, do I not agree with that. If we are going to open it up, let's open it up for everybody. For council members and those that are going to resign and those not running and -- those that are. Have a free for all. I think it should go to charter and be well thought out thank you.
Thank you. Ms. Denys -- Ms. Denys you stated it was in the charter. Can you tell me.
If you look, it says created by charter Section 602.1.
602.1? I'd like to look at that. Mr. Wagner I will yield the floor to you.
I'm okay. I'll give a couple of reasons why. Council run if I was termed out wanted to run for property appraiser --
Is that an announcement.
No I will not be running for appropriate appraiser nor anything else. Or am I? Vy to leave it open to the last minute. When I was a prosecutor a lot of prosecutors were running for judge. It's simple. They just didn't do it while they were work. ing do we take that same mentalities. Prosecutors make great judges because they have more trials. Should they not be allowed to run for judge. Should they quit being a public defender simply because that's their job. What they did after hours or on their day off was their free time. I look at this as a simple situation, we live in America. I feel like we have certain freedoms to do what we want on the -- on our free time. This is one of those to me. If they want to run for office on their free time, it should matter where they work. Could be the public defender running for the public defender's position. Someone running -- in county running for administer position. You want someone who understands the administrative position. The perfect example would be the sheriff. That would be the one that makes the most sense because of the size of the department, the way it's run. The administrative aspects of it. Would you not one someone higher up running that position rather than someone in a different aware area that doesn't know it and doesn't understand it. Creates to me the best person may be the person that is already there. I look at it as a constitutional aspect. My opinion. If you disagree that's fine . I respect that. I think if you're going to do it, if all these other state agencies aloit and people can do it, why would we stop them.
Mr. Patterson?
I don't have a problem with this if anemia charter review. If -- if people in charter review. Fit passes they can take it up. I don't really have a problem with this. The last few days I was in Tallahassee and was, a friend of mine I've known a long time, invited me to go over. A candidate running for superintendent of schools who was a sitting administer in the school system. I talked to them and said is there a problem? No. The superintendent and I are going to be running against each other. I was a principal. There may be another person . This is not an -- this is not an unusual situation. Throughout other areas of the state this is not a problem. I really don't have a problem with it at all. I move approval ordnance -- allow county employees to become candidates without resigning.
Approval -- he beat you out by half a second. We will continue with discussion. Mr. Ms. Cusack?
Some year's ago I was in the same position. I was a nurse. I wanted to run for state legislature. I could not. I had to e re resign even before I could announce I wanted to run for office. I -- I think that's unfair. I'm not sure whether it does prohibit good people -- speak for myself, from running for office. So I just think that this is over due. I don't think it even goes far enough. It does limit folk, good people from being able to run for public office. I support this based on the fact that I know we have many wonderful employees in Volusia County government that will make good elected officials. It's just the freedom that we have as Americans to run for public office. Why because we have a job, and with we all have to work, that I have to leave my employment to run for public office. I think that's -- that it's not fair. I think this is long over due and doesn't go far enough and I support what we have on the table. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you, ma'am. All right. Most people know I carry the charter with me. Section.0 the merit system. A merit system for the employees of the charter government -- ordnances as may be necessary to fully implement the merit system. It is within our power to do this. To pass ordnances in this manner. I have to agree with my colleagues here to my right. We have a lot of good people in this county government that work directly under supervisors. My question is is the clerk of the court considered one of our -- she's not considered --
Nos. Constitutional -- no sir. Constitutional officer.
I work with most of people people and second in command for these department. They are good people. Been there doing the job. To be honest with you it makes more sense to have people who have been working, training and doing in the absence of the supervisors and making sure that that office runs smooth. Do we want somebody who has no idea, I have to pick on you Anne, the department of elections, just because you're here. Do we want someone who does not know thousand answer the system or path doesn't know how to put ballots -- --
I'm going to support this ordnance also. Mr. Lowry. Good morning.
Good morning.
Mr. Eckert can I ask you a question. When I was on the Deltona city commission I had to resign for this position. Can you contrast for me how this would be different than pa tha. I see plus and minuses on this. I see potentials of bad relationships after an election coming into play. I'm not sure having this or not having this would change that. Fo f you have -- can you contrast?
The requirement f resign came -- it was at a time when you -- resignation would have taken this office had you been successful. Of course you were. That drives from a different source. The ordnance that you have in place is, in my view, constitutional. Not require bid charter -- required by charter any longer. Was at one time a broader prohibition removed from the charter because it was over inclusive. Still lawful policy if you choose to retain it. And subject to change if you wish to do so as some have said they desire to do so today.
Thank you.
Any other council comments? Seeing none. All those in favor amending the code of ordnances to allow county employees for director ship without resigning county employment. Signify by aye. All those opposed.
Ms. Denys, Mr. Lowry against. Motion passes.
Mr. Chairman, point of order. I just found out that the attorney that has been responsible for item 25 rob -- the renotion of the Daytona water park. Needs to leave. His father has cancer and he needs to catch an airplane and get out of here. My questions -- really, were historical. I was involved in drafting this lease from the beginning and the changes that have gone through and did have some questions about it. Not important enough to keep him here. I would like to move approval and let him go.
Okay. Motion for approval item 24? Item 25. Item 25 motion for approval and second by Mr. Wagner. Further discussion? Item 25 the third amended and lease agreement for the Daytona -- all those in favor signify by aye. Opposed. So carried. Please go take care of his family.
All right. Item number 3. Ordnance 2015-09. Overlay zone aloud side entry garages on all lots. Ms. McGee.
Thank you. I'm Kelli McGee director of growth and resource management. Allow attached side intrie garages. On may May 2 # of 2015. County council drafted the ordnance gone to -- and comes back to you with a recommendation of approval. Thank you.
Any further staff comments? We will close the staff reporting section. We open public participation. Any?
No sir. No slips.
Okay. No public participation. We will close the public hearing. Mr. Patterson you have the floor.
I move approva ordnance --
There's a motion on the floor. Second by Mr. Lowry. Okay. Any further discussion by council? Clear the board please. Thank you. Seeing as to no further discussion on this matter. Motion on the floor approval of ordnance 20 # -- all those in favor? All those opposed. So carried. 6-0. Ms. Denys had to step out a moment.
Y. 4 -- item 4.
I'm here be your economic development director Rob Ehrhardt. What we have before you is an amendment to the existing agreement with team slush sha going back to 2010 with extends agreement for three years. Only funds the agreement for one year. We will come back nen next year requesting funding and the -- and the following year as been our tradition. This is an extension of the agreement in funding for one year. I can tell you from our perspective we've had great success and moving in the right direction. Keith Oran -- leadership and state of Florida. Miami Airport and Jacksonville. We were up there. These are things that the public second -- sector cannot do by itself. No way me as a county employee can fly to Paris to go to the air show. The private sector dollars are fundings these activities. Yesterday we had the pruf ledge being the w the central Florida -- with speed way and -- we are really getting on the map in the region. We got our act together locally. We are now becoming a regional player and mega regional player. We're happy to interview Keith minoritien and acknowledge -- Norton and let him walk through his presentation.
Thank you. Keith Norton. Team Volusia. I appreciate this time to update county council this morning. Just wanted to talk about our public and private sector investment from our institutions of higher education. As you can see public dollars are at 47% of our total budget. I'm very proud to say we have increased our investor community alone this year by eight new investors. We will be announcing two new ones at our board meeting this coming Tuesday. Plus an upgraded investor to board level this coming Tuesday. The private sector is fully engaged. I have the next slide that shows our historic investor engagement from 2011. We have increases our private sector investors by 35. Making 85% increase of investors since 2015. The red line, of course, our private sector investors. I'm proud to say in 2014 we added the city of Daytona beach shores and 2015 at the sective committee level we added the ste of edge water. Our private sector is fully engaged. If I may have approval, I would like like to recognize those in the audience that are fully engaged. Would you all stand please? Thank you. This is -- you can see I'm joined by my chair John as well as Lisa Ford-Williams our vice chair. I'm excited about the leadership we have and the engagement we have from the private sector as well auz the public sector. Very proud. As you know last year we reached and exceeded our three year approved goal that was laid down by the board. This year we achieved our job reuation goal and -- creation goal and payroll goal. We have a few more months to gather capital investment to achieve that goal that was laid down for our 2015 goal. Very pleased with the announcements that have occurred and that are pending. As you know it's very important for networking and in front of enterprise Florida. As Rick Carl said we're also in front of the -- a seven county region, which I serve on the board. It's important for us to be seen by enterprise Florida. On the left side of the slide you can see the activities we've participant #d in with interprize Florida. Here and around the U.S. and abroad we've invited bill Johnson the secretary of commerce here and the COO here to just kick is if t -- kick the dirt and see what we have to offer. We are also an active participant and investor of the team marking partnership. Allows the state of Florida to advertise and market around the country and world. On the right side you can see our 2015 time Volusia EDC out reach 37 various targeted activities. The list on the right side is just year to date. We have more planned. Mr. Carl mentioned the fact that we did participant in the Paris air show. We were asked by enterprise Florida to exhibit in the -- the booth was next to Miami and MInternational Airport and beside Jacksonville USA. We were deemed as a player in Paris. The actual pavilion was opened by governor Scott secretary of commerce and the senior leadership of enterprise Florida. They see us as a player in the realm of Florida. Air Space and Aviation is very important to the state and Volusia County with our as sets we have here. Our available land at Daytona deech International Airport. Price Warehouse Cooper ranked us number one. I'm happy to assist and support the kwoent this very important -- county with this very important sector. I had 12 scheduled appointments while I was will there. I had two calls with project blue sky which was a very important project we had visit last year. Of note we had many appointments with Brazil. Brazilian companies are very drun our community because of the location of the em bri air facility in Melbourne. Our pipeline continues to be strong. The 12 leads we are working through from Paris. We had one compensate visit the week after I met with them in Paris. They got on a plane and came to Florida and visited Volusia County. We have one more plan and we're working through the rest of the pipeline as you know our whole purposess a sales organization is to start with leads, make them projects and drink -- bring them to the later stages and notions -- negotiations. Manufacturing includes aviation aerospace. Right now we have 15 projects with 2 # 43 jobs potential. I tank you for your attention today. It's been a great year for us. I look very much forward to the future of our great community.
Thank you, sir. Mr. Patterson?
Thank you. One of the good things about sitting on the team Volusia board for the last three years instead of alternating off is you get a feeling ooefr three-year period of what is going on and see what's happening. I'm really pleased with what's been happening. Keith has done Don a fantastic job for us. I hear glowing reports when he's out because he goes out and represent it is county and team Volusia in putting forth what we have in our assets and our abilities here in this county. I'm really pleased with what's going on. It's a very competitive business. Very. A lot of people out there that are doing kind of a half way of doing it and some full bore putting more money than we are. It's being in the sales business for 38 years, you're constantly prospecting. Always looking. If you're not looking, you might as well get out of the business. With that I move approval the 4 agreement -- and fiscal year 2015-16 funding. Amount of $215,000.
A motion to approve by Mr. Patterson and second by Ms. Cusack. You have the floor? You yeeled. Mr. Wagner
Keep up the great work. Very pleased with our staff, yours and the efforts. Honestly the great results. Keep doing it. Thank you. Appreciate it .
Ms. Cusack?
Thank you. I wanted to second that motion and have an opportunity to say to you Keith and all the team the collaboration in Volusia County I see second to none. I'm so pleased. I had doubts. There are other folkses that have doubts also. I'm a believer. You're doing great work. Volusia County is booming. We're not were we're going to be in the tuch. With your work and the collaboration going on in this county and around the state and the country I think that we are moving well in the right direction and the funding that we're providing is money well spent. I applaud you and your team for this great effort. Mr., Mr. Chair.
Ms. Denys?
Thank you. I was fortunate enough to spend part of the afternoon, evening with team Volusia and Mr. Ehrhardt and which he is nut in the -- ak cladz to you what I heard among your peers. Volusia is very highly regarded and collaboration council man Ms. Cusack is strong right now. We're electronic. Our Chambers or municipalities our governments. One word I heard yesterday. What businesses want stable environment. Stability. The strength of Volusia County at this point in time I believe now more than ever is we're stable. You're a key part to that Mr. Norton. I thank you with working with me on some issues. Your forthrightness and professional. I think we're going to do big things. Mr. Norton who was with us give you an update and thank you, Mr. Ehrhardt for making this happen too. Yesterday I was able to speak to the governor and give him the invitations to bring enterprise Florida oos to Volusia County and the response I got was we're going to make this happen. At some point Volusia County will be on the schedule and you'll be forefront with that and getting this scheduled. It's an honor to be with you and see you in your element and how you navigate. You represent us well and thank you for all you do and team Volusia. Another interesting thing. Be proud of this and part of thp I was listening to team Florida yesterday. Looking at their numbers and their partnership public and private. They got nothing on us. This is a statewide organization. Team Volusia, their partner contributions, private and public a little over $1 million. Team Volusia right under $1 million. For us to go toe to toe against a state organization in economic development speaks volumes about the quality of partners and I'm encouraged with where you're going to strengthened the positions that need to be strengthened and take us where we need to go. So we can literally launch our future, Mr. Minoritien. Thank you.
Mr. Daniels.
I would like to echo Keith's perform mans. You you see him out he is energetic. A terrific job. I was at the same meeting that deb was at. Maybe a couple of different ones. The one troubling one was enterprise Florida itself. Enterprise Florida has $# million. The state of Texas has dr 100 million. The state of Arkansas has $45 million. We're at some serious disadvantages that are not of our own making. One of the things we have to recognize and one of the things we have to work through that we locally have given incentive money to get businesses to come to Volusia County. It's just the way of the world. Th things work. Other states are doing a lot better than we are doing. I didn't get a chance to talk to Fred or talk to the president of Enterprise Florida had to leave suddenly to actually go earn a living. One thing I want to point out, you may do this. They were trying to confine their lob big effort in the legislature to just their board. They have all these organizations throughout the state of Florida that they really aught to be tapping into and trying to make something happen there. Maybe one thing you want to do is to bring that up to them is -- this is something we need to get on the state of Florida. Mrarply since they have a sur police plus and begin to -- surplus and spend money. It almost was not funded thrown in last min by Chris. If he hadn't had done it it wouldn't be done. What can we do to help you?
What I hear is the improvement of sites. We do have sites. Some of the projects that have -- you have been a huge supporter as far as the workshop. Looking at the war chest of what we have to offer as far as insen tis. Incentives don't make a bad place good, they make a good place better. You've taken care of that and added the county manager with the tools when a project comes in to get your leadership. We have a plethora of sites but not fully served. When consultants come in and companies come in. They would like to have shovel ready sites.
Are you talking about inspect buildings or -- spec buildings?
Sites with ewe until tis run up to them or duh you untilties unup to or --
The amount of available buildings we have.
We need infrachuck trur improvements -- if infrastructure improvements.
Yes.
Thank you.
Okay. I guess he's done. I remember when I first met you, Keith and told the story about coming here with a suitcase and five suits and didn't have any Jeans or nothing. He said that at an eggs and issues breakfast.
My first.
Came here with a suitcase and great ideas. I remember your first year. You were a little under the mark. We said that's okay. The second year you hit the mark and I think you're going above and beyond. Tangers. Great project. Thank you for getting the bakery. Which by the way, haven't got an tour yet. Need to get ahold of hip. Trader Joe's coming you've done a great job. You've proved to me this is money well spent to work with the public, private to get these projects here going, funded and moving forward. They do the thing we all want everybody to do, increase employment. We're working on that too. This is all good stuff. I there l definitely support.
Mr. Dirn?
Oonl few comments. I want to thank everyone involved with team Volusia. I feel Freud without the support of the council it wouldn't have gotten off the ground. Maid a wise -- made a wise choice. One of the issues I had we were really not set up and didn't have the money and expertises to do, a lot of issues why, to do recruiting to the level team Volusia does. Once we figured out what everybody was going to do, we really have gotten focused. I'm most fleed by the fact that the council is pleased. We went through rocky times. Any good thing is worth the effort. We made the effort. The thing I think really stands out is that is tgs about leverage. One of the real issues when we started team Volusia for all intents and purposes the county was the only one in the game when it came to money. It shows in team Volusia promised they would do this. They would meet the county's contribution and try to exceed it by the private sector. They've done that. All the money we put up now leveraged by the private sector. That is very important. That summon not retired. Volunteer bid the private sector. Wasn't just about the money. It's always the number of people and companies involved. One of the reason wes got Jet Blue it was. Number of companies that showed a -- an interest. That disturb meant all these companies -- means all the companies are connected. We are becoming a better and better team. We make the most of the limited resource and I don't think we have the resources lot of maces have and we don't have the infrastructure. We are struggle with that and we're doing the best we can. >> We're getting more money from private sector and more involvement. I think as an organization -- I think what's really good is we're in place when this next wave of opportunity has come and as everybody I've talked to, let's not miss this wave. We've missed them in t in the past. We're for once organized to try and catch the wave.
No further comments. All those in favor of the fourth amendment to agreement with team Volusia economic development cooperation expenditure $250,000. Signify by aye. Opposed. So carried. Thank you.
Now to item five. Contracts with et nah life insuran Aetna life insurance company. And start insurance company to provide group short term disability and long term disability insurances.
I'll start.
Mr. Dinneen.
This all part of a long term package and what we want to do for healthcare for employees. Aside from the larger --
Hold on a moment. If we could please come to order. Thank you. I'm sorry there Mr. Dinneen.
As we prepare to get ready to get a bid for the large healthcare package. There are other issue related to healthcare that affect or employees. Dental, vision and -- most of which #14u7b% paid by -- 100% paid by the employee. I'll go back to the settlement with the firefighters. Right now I think we have something that probably nobody else in the state has. I'm extremely proud of this. We have multiple year contact criminal acts -- contracts. The nonunion yon employee which is are of tremendous work force that have a lot of faith in the council. Gets paid wage wise in increases and health care on the council decide. The -- what they've done in all of our contracts now, the unions, they've given us you twos on language. That you decide they'll accept by contract. Also I think, finally through negotiations figured in the end better off to waive healthcare than negotiate it. I think that's the best interest in the employees an the public. One type of uniform healthcare. I think tlts an obligation. They will put their faith in you that you do the right thing. Keep both the eye on the needs of the employee and the -- what we can afford for taxpayers. We worked on separating those things that are important to the great -- audio breaking up ]
At a time when the fid fit will bid. Try to do those in a way that will protect what we're paying and make it better for employees. Mr. Mroets get up and Mr. -- [ --
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In essence what you're going to see here over all in the package the county will remain somewhat end up being neutral in terms of what our out lie is going to be, our cost. The employees will e individually when they need to use the insurance what they'll get a better quality insurance and better choice. I think that leads into the bigger discussion where the employees when we do the big healthcare package. I think what they will see is that when push came to shove on trying to negotiate all the contracts. As long as it wasn't going to cost the taxpayers additional money we try to fight for the employee
Tom, you want to touch base and show a couple of slides. I'm proud of what we did. I think this will show that the employees, especially those that waived healthcare and the nonunion people -- [ Audio break up ]
Mr. Dinneen said on these items the vision and the short term and cancer and critical illness all paid for by the employees 100%. These were originally due to expire next year. As Mr. Dinneen said we thought it was best to go ahead this year. We needed to negotiate them so they're autoof the way so next year you can focus fully on the health insurance. What we did here we'll go through these. Show you what will happen where we made savings and improvements. Believe all the vision particularly and short term disability. Made significant end roads. I'll turn it to Mr. John Robinson who will go through this with you.
I'd like to spend time going thoefr in a high level and answer questions. This is the first in a series of recommendations that will come back to you. Public participation now on the products that have been briefly mentioned. Next we will be looking at some improvements to the Medicare retirery plans we have to offer and the looking at the health plan as a whole and want to spend a great deal of time on that. We want to deal with these issues as we can now. The proposals that were received went through the public bid process. Out of that came some improvements to the plans. The dental plan was the one that we highlighted the most. This is where we -- I think there are some great improvements that not only employees will see from the standpoint of the networks but also from the plan itself. The plan is basically the same as it currently is with the increase with the actual annual maximum benefits raise f,000 to --
From a cost perspective it's cost neutral. When we look at the current TPA providing this it is a cost neutral to the county and improvement in benefits to the actual employees themselves. This is the break down of the mroint premiums and how they're set up. You can see how those portions are set as well. In addition to that, there be savings for those individuals that use the network. Dental network. Sout of the pocket for some -- for some of these expenses will be less as well. On the vision insurance the vision insurance is totally paidfy by employees. The benefit has been improved with some of the benefits we reseefd through the RFP process. Significant savings to employees as well as the improvement to the benefit itself. Here are the premiums. On the disability itself short term by -- employees will save ov,000 and the county will save a little over $48,000 for that particular benefit. We have the group cancer critical illness and heart and stroke insurance. A number of people have these plans. The premiums for these mrap will not increase. The benefits will be guaranteed issue for up coming year. There are some minor changes to the benefit itself. Some that will employees will be able the take advantage as well. We're looking at five-year contracts with additional five year renewals. Those contracts with Aetna for group dental and vision. Standard for the long term and short team term and American heritage for critical illness. Any questions?
Mr. Patterson?
Not really questions I know my 38 years as an insurance agent I look at these contracts you've done a great job for us, John. It's not easy and there's a lot of competition and everybody wanting to get into a nest of employees sell these products and -- I know you're careful in thinking about our employees. I move approve wl contracts with Aetna insurance for vision. American heritage life ablgd r angered standard insurance .
Motion for approval.
Second.
Second by Ms. Denys.
You have is the floor?
I'm done.
Mr. Daniel.
Thank you. As I was telling Mr. Motes you guys are headed in the right direction. I was a little bit surprised by what the county insurance policies covered. I've been a sole practitioner and I've a provided my employees what we -- the goal here beginning to upgrade that. That is something we really need to do. I'm glad to see you guys going in that direction. Thank you.
Mr. Dinneen.
Final comment. Thank you, Tom. Committee. Mr. Robinson. I meant what I said about being proud of the fact our unions also believe we would do right by people. I think is to make sure they understand by going together collectively we ended up getting a better value for them without hurting the taxpayers at all. I'm proud of that. That sets the stage for the anxious we have when we -- Anning when we go to bid. We will discussion skusz the smaller programs and also working on a committee that will look at union and nonunion people. It's going to be very competitive. Very complicated. Thank god we have Mr. Robinson working for us. I think -- [ Audio breaking up brgs
In today's work who knows what the cost will bes. We all -- we all may end up having to pay more. I want to make sure when we get to that point the employees understand we did right by them and the taxpayers. I'm pleased with how this came out. Good work -- you made it look easy here at the committee. I know the amount of material you went through sun believable. If there's one thing -- if there's one thing struggle with, this health insurance stuff is so complicated. I'm so glad we have Mr. Robinson on our team.
All right. So notion on the floor approval of contracts with Aetna life insurance company, American heritage life to provide group cancer, and standard insurance company to provide group short term and long term disability. All those in favor. All those opposed.
So carried. 7 -0. Item 6. >> Contract amendment with health smart benefit solution for third party administrative services. This made me nervous when I read this we just did a contract for this and now getting rid of it.
Tom Motes human resource kreshth. Hilt smart is our third party. We are now going on dental and vision with a fully insured companies they will process the claims. We went back to them and Dave in our office negotiated with them to remove the cost of processing the dental and vision my name is claums. We've amended the agreement and brought it to you and it will save patr $56,000 -- approximately $56,000. I will entertain any other staff comment.
Mr. Chair, fronl the point that it's those koount kind of savings we were tiebl make the change employees and still not custody --
We made shire they're all balanced out.
No further comment from staff. I will entertain a motion.
I move approval amendment with health smart benefit solution for third party and to decan cleat the administrative services for dental and vision.
A second. Further discussion. Seeing none. All in favor of the contract signify by aye. All those opposed. So carried. We are at 6-0. Mr. Wagner had to step out for a moment.
I move for a 10 minute --
I was just going to say. Unless an objection I will take us into a ten minute recess.
Chm betters could please come to order. Next item up number 7. Fit call year 2015-16 advertising authority's budget presentations. Tammy bong you have the floor.
Thank you. Today we have three agencies that are going to be submitting a budget. Your pact a brief summary along marketing plan and budget summary document that is also included with phone -- some deta tailed line items. Today we're going to present the Power Point presentation. We will answer any questions you have. We will start off with Tom making his presentation and Renee will give the advertising presentations with west Volusia and southeast. I'll be happy to answer questions as we conclude. We'll start with Tom.
Thank you. Tom educatetive director of the Halifax advertising doing business as the Daytona beach visitors council. Good morning. County chair Davis, distinguish ed distinguished council members and county staff that we worked with so hard on this. Today we're seek approval of our 2015-16 fiscal year budget marketing plan. 2013-14 was our best year in ten years and so far 2014-15 the year we're currently in has surpassed that mark to be our best year as we are 12% ahead of last year at this time. Our strengths -- let's see. Destination strengths and weaknesses have changed somewhat due to proposed projects like the three hotels in the works. Daytona Rising. The Tanger out let mall and the ECHO projects. Our weaknesses still center around the old spring break image that hasn't been in place since 1919 but it dies -- 1991 but dies hard in people's mind improvements to infrastructure. Happily our strengths are over coming our weaknesses. The opportunities are centered around working together to collectively market and sell this great destination. Our new branding the original American beach resonating with our guest base. We have done five focus groups in various place like New York, North Carolina, Texas and we have one more to do in Tampa. People really connect with that because they see us as an original, American original with racing starting here. People used to fly their planes on the beach. The plaza hotel. And we're also the first hotel in the state of Florida to go year round at the plaza. We've added a representation firm to represent in england, Ireland and Germaniny. We're working on a golf package that will include a fishing combo. We're one of the few places on the planet where you recollect U.K. fish fresh -- yes you can fish fresh water and salt water within 20 minutes. We have great news of the Jet Blue nonstop. We had a meeting with jet blue a couple of weeks ago and a campaign to move that forward. Our focus will always bb b to fill our shoulder seasons. Our greatest occupancy fwans. Realizing you've -- I will be mroozed to answer any question you may have at that -- this time or at the end of the presentation. One note is the higher revenue reflect it is sesz of our current efforts. As we mentioned the develop -- increasing and in March of 2015 we exceeded the 1 million mark for the first time in the history of our organization. We are con -- targeting consumers as well as conventional and meeting market. The list of consumerers shows two new additions. On January 8 the New York Times doing a travel show. That is the day after the Jet Blue flight starts. They will help us pub size the flight at the show. We also added the Boston Globe Show three weeks after The Jet Blue flight starts. The other shows are standards that we do. The individuals always yields great results. The emphasis in these shows we show them all we have in echo tourism and the beach the number one reason people come here and our various events throughout the year. The ECHO projects provide us with many unique attraction. When they are combined with arts culture and heritage offering makes us at least a four-night stay. That's what we're after. The more nights they stay, the happier everyone is. Our visitation still shows Florida as our number one source of visit terse. New York has moved up and Texas increased. That's one reason we went to Texas to do focus groups. We are finding they are receptive to us and they know there's other beaches in Florida available other than desen -- our instate visitors are truly being tourist in their own backyard. Our in state visitors come from the nearby area. Our number one area is Orlando. We are trying to blooed their visitors here. We have 137,000 room nights. Equals ten points in occupancy. 07% now run a year of 80%. We keep -- the other thing we're work on other there. They have a huge Brazilian presence in Orlando. We're working with the international brokers to see how we can siphon some of that business off. The other important area is nearby market. We know that Nesh market visitors. The primary emphasis for this market is through digital advertising. Our trackable way to fill our shoulder season is through group convention and meeting sales. Or concentration of -- number of definites booked and number of new prospects we've found increases our business base. As Mr. Patterson said if you're not prospecting, you're not growing if you're not growing you need to get out of the sales business. Special markets. Like the Daytona beach half marathon. Approved $25,000 that you're voting on to thep that get going. That could be a great early event in a shoulder season. Right before 5:00 and after the Rolex. We also have the exco projects in if area of special projects using digital and social media. Our collaborative efforts are extremely important. We prove that the current year we are in. Bloggers travel writers and convention buyers with great results. We will dhont with our southeast Volusia and advertising authorities. By working together and using this 113,000 we have in there collectively as a very relist tick number we're going to get the economy scales we got last year so we can do more and bring more people in. That's the end of the presentation. I will thank you for your time and let me any if you have questions. It's a great day in Volusia County. Go out and enjoy it. Any questions? >>Vy one .
I have one. Florida is the overwhelming -- we get most of our visitors from Florida. Where in Florida?
I'll back up. They come from from Volusia County. Orlando, Jacksonville, palm coast and Tampa. We're doing work with our ad agency south of us because we're starting to see interest in there. I noticed in February we had people from the Palm Beach and Miami areas at LPGA and I asked why they were up here and they said they wanted cooler weather. They do get tired of 85 and higher year round. If it was one or two, but it was a lot of people at that time looking for cooler weather than what Miami has.
Jacksonville, palm coast?
Tampa, Orlando and Volusia. That's just people having vacations, stay occasions. Two or three nights. Getting out of their home. People from delane getting a beach. Renting a hotel room with their family. What we're trying to work on now is increase the stays from out of state in August because of the new school start date. If school starts the 17th for this area and people will stop traveling on the 10th. August has always been a good in-state visitation. We're hoping New York and some of the other areas that may start later because of snow days will help fill in the void that will happen because of school starting earlier.
Do you have any proye-x je-xs -- projections what New York will do when we get jet blue?
After meeting with their people if they started a flight to hell tomorrow, they will sell it out. They have such a 2308ing -- [ Laughter ]
It shows you how much they love this area line. When we -- airline. When we were talking to them we didn't tell them about two Thursdays away into the focus -- thirds in the focus group. When we said jet blue going to start a January 7 flight. Every one of the people in all four focus groups said there must be something there if Jet Blue is going there. They'll follow them anywhere. I think we'll do very well with that flight. Hopefully Jet Blue will look for a second flight and from Boston.
Thank you. May I go first?
Yes you may.
Thank you. Great presentation. Good number. I like the growth. I only have one pet peeve. I've told every director and board this. If you go to the last page of your presentation here. Please.
Okay.
Bring it up for everybody. Are we on that?
This snaj
That one there. Thank you. What don't you see? People. I'm not worry rid about cars. People.
It -- snit looks like i deserted golf course and beach. I'm sorry Hyatt. That museum is cranking. Time lapse picture of one car going down the road in Daytona. We got -- I've told this to Renee and the west side and the east side and everybody. If you're going to try to advertise a beach, I'm going to pick on you Renee. Look at the front cover of the southeast. It's a beach. Great. There's nobody there. We're trying to tell people to come to our beach. Everybody loves it. I don't see anybody. I'd rather see it crowded. That's my only pet peeve. We have a lot of pictures with no people. That's what we're trying to encourage is people. Please. Other than that, thank you . Mr. Dinneen.
Thank you. Tom , good presentation. It's really been a breath of fresh air to see the changes that have gone on. A lot of it is Tom's leadership. I -- everybody I talk to, not just my staff but business people, believe for the first time that everybody, including the west and southeast, that for once we all seem to be rowing in the same direction. The krit suchls I hear now are -- criticisms I hear are let's just do it better. It's wonderful when you have that kind of attitude, this whole thing about catching the you wave. I'll tell you one thing that's a breath of fresh air. Sometimes you have to tell people they can celebrate the past. Sometimes you can't live in it. You have to talk about the new thing ts. And start realizing what we think is a positive is not a positive to somebody else. I had to walk out for a minute. You may have said this. One thing you told me that really resonated. Especially talking to the council members about their backgrounds. About the world's most famous beach. That tends to be where you lived. You may not resonate the same where you said America's beach. Destination you used different words that mean different things. That's really important. Now we're going to the next level how to refine the message. The only thing I talked to Tom about and talked to Renee about. My only criticism, not criticism, part of refining it. You're advertising needs to keep in pace with the investments we make. If we're making more investments in reefs and trails, more investments in the marine science center, we expect there to be -- to see that in the advertising. This originally started, Josh, remember, this whole thing start #23rd a question that he -- start #d from a question he asked years ago. We just invested 70 million in the ocean center. Where's the new ads for the ocean center. Start #5d discussion.
Let's not go back to that. [ Captioners transitioning ]
We want to hold hands and say can buy off. -- The point is, asking those questions led to what I'm getting at which is, what Josh is getting at, hour expenditure should show up. Just keep that in mind. We really appreciate the support that we had for the half marathon from everyone that was there that day.
Thank you. >> And if we can consider a motion that we would be approving the FY 2015 -16 budget as shown in your packet of 9 million-16 budget as shown in your packet of $9,757,044 ,
Can I have that number again? FY 15-16 budget submittal is 9,000,755 -- $9,757,044.
Do I hear a motion?
Mr. Patterson.
I go ahead and motion that we approve the budget for advertising in the amount of --
$9,757,044.
Okay. Sorry I don't have my glasses. >> You look cool that way. There is a motion on a -- on the floor for approval for the Halifax area advertising authority.
I will second that.
Thank you Ms. Q sack. -- Ms. -- Ms. Cusack. All those in favor signify by saying aye . All those opposed. So carried. So we have to do a motion for ever advertising. Thank you. Just wanted to make sure. >> Good morning. Renate Helen Baz , with directing Housing Authority located in the land -- Deland, Florida. I'd like to recognize people that showed support by coming out, Bob Davis the president of the hotel Motel Association, Doug Little, the tourism chair and he also is owner of the St. Johns River eco-tours in Barry and Sarah Patel who is the co-owner of the boutique hotel downtown and Sarah Hughes from the -- Hotel in Daytona. I'm not going to go into the marketing plan and everything, I will just keep this straightforward as the budget . To have received copies of the marketing plan along with our visitor profile and the Benedict and -- advertising media plan that talks about our creative. Let's start off with the key points, -- no that's okay. There we go.
You were showing something and I was digging all over the place trying to find that screen.
I wanted to make sure you were paying attention. I am not going to take -- go over all of the key points. I do want to update the first line and since we have received additional collections, we were up 19.4 person as of July 31 -- 19 for -- 19.4% as of July 31. What is not shown on the key points is that we are hosting the 50th anniversary conference of the Florida Trail Association in October 2016 . This is going to give us the opportunity to further showcase Volusia County's wonderful trail network through field trips for attendees and their families. We are excited about this opportunity and I have to tell you that they contacted us. They reached out to us. They saw what a wonderful trail system we had, and they felt that this was the perfect place to hold their 50th anniversary conference. Not only that because it is the 50th anniversary, they are going to being -- be bringing in federal and state people so it will really put the area of Volusia County and its trail system on the map. Also wanted to talk about the 44 Marina has been reached -- recently purchased and is undergoing an overhaul to turn it into the St. Johns River Marina resort. With 177 wet slits, 144 full-service RV sites, a restaurant, two tools and miles of hiking trails. Also not listed is the new Marriott and the new owners of the Putnam Hotel who plan to turn it into a boutique hotel. Let me continue on for some of the key points this is really exciting, I know Tom was talking about everything exciting in Daytona, so we have a lot of exciting things here as well. The local rugby team, the Warriors, are hosting the qualifying tournament for the American region of the rugby league World Cup in December. Teams from Canada and Jamaica will face off here and play in Jacksonville as well. So this tournament should relate to overnight stays for family and friends. The team will go back to jackets -- Jacksonville which is where they are being housed. I know you read last week in the newspaper about Clay Henderson being hired as the director as the newly established Center for environmental resilience which will be tied to the $6 million center to be built . They did just receive some funding from one of the steps and relatives to be able to go ahead and build this aquatic center. We have a lot of exciting things happening.
Here's our summary budget presentation that you have already received. Unfortunate to say that our budget has been reduced to $20,000 for this fiscal year. In talking with the budget department, they felt that we should just keep it conservative and make sure that everything goes smoothly and I would rather be conservative and celebrate later when our collections continue to increase. As always for us in the West Volusia area, our balance looks like a large amount for budgeting reasons, it is determined to be based on an accrual basis by the auditors, but we operate on an actual basis and project our carryover to be approximately $60,000. The reserves are also inflated in the additional carryover amount for that factor. We will have an accurate amount in December when we receive September's taxable collections. The following slides refer to the budget categories listed on the detailed comparison that you have . Here's the personal service broken out. As you can see they have been reduced almost 8% due to a position and reduction in health insurance costs, and a 61.5% reduction in the state employment phase. Professional services, you can see what that includes. On August 10, someone emailed you an outline of the ongoing research activities that she would be doing for the three authorities for the fiscal year 2015-16 , which is included in here, and 2014 visitor profile that mystifying did is attached -- that was used to develop our print digital and social media programs. Social media advertising, we had to reduce a little bit . However, and you can refer to the handout titled in the marketing breakdown, we are using the five days of fun in the messaging for our media programs, and I would like to point out that the creative mockups that you see are using stop photography for layout purposes. The final creative will incorporate photos used in our visitors guide which you all have received previously. Since contracting with Benedict advertising, we have begun using more earned media. That means press and media releases. And owned media which is websites, social media and other digital channels to leverage our advertising dollars, so that will be used extensively as we have had to reduce our advertising budget a little bit. We are really focusing on digital this coming fiscal year . If you will notice, in talking about marketing to our niche markets, it includes the half marathon sponsorship and the fishing tournament television is not only sponsoring the Bass Masters Pro, as well as television commercials and having the tournament televised. >> Expenditures by category, and that's it. Thank you. Any questions or comments? >> Okay. I don't see any comments. I do want to make one comment. I like your new logo there. It's the first time I have seen it. Where it says West Volusia, old Florida, new five. We hear so much -- new vibe . I like the way it is laid out. My compliment.
Thank you.
With that said I will entertain a motion for approval of the budget . Mr. Patterson.
I moved for approval of the budget for fiscal year 2015-16 in the amount of $521,356. Is that a correct number?
Yes it is. Just want to make sure.
Motion for approval of 521,000, $356 for the West Volusia advertising authority annual budget , do I hear a second?
I will second. >> Thank you Mr. Lowry. There is a second. Any further discussion? >> Seeing none, all those in favor of $521,356 for the Westside Volusia County fiscal year budget please signify by aye. All those opposed. So carried unanimous. Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you. >> New hat. You have the floor.
Yes. I am serving as interim Executive Director for the Southeast Volusia advertising authority so we will be presenting their budget as well. You have received the summary and detailed budget and personnel . You have received the media plan by paradise and PowerPoint presentation for your review, as well as the marketing plan. Both of those -- West Volusia and Southeast Volusia, we did minor tweaks to the plan to update them and bring them up to date for what is going on in the areas. Not a major overall. -- Not a major overhaul. We are open to new market opportunities, not only with -- in collaboration with the other ad authorities, but as with -- also with new opportunities as they may happen. I am not going to go through the key points except to update as of July 31, your today -- year to date they were up 11.1%. Key points continued. They did talk about the accolades that have been received in the area . Personal services. There was budgeting last year for some additional personnel, but they were never hired. So we have reduced the personnel down for this fiscal year. And the personal services line item does include a 3% salary increase for staff. The summary budget comparison, marketing PR and operating expenses, if you refer to your detailed budget comparison for a breakdown of the expenses, the capital refers to two laptops that were purchased in the 2013-14 fiscal year. The reserves look a little bit inflated. This is again due to accrual instead of actual and should be adjusted once we receive the September collections as well. The board has already discussed coming up with a list of special projects, advertising and promotional, as well as an increase in staff. I would like to recognize the board members that are present, Kate Minnick from Spruce Creek golf course . Lily Shelley who is the chair from the best Western, and Tony from the Hampton Inn. >> This indicates the expenditures by categories. And here is a little bit more about -- budget detail. In the promotional advertising if you will refer to the special handout that was given to you, that is labeled through paradise and this is where they have laid out advertising for the upcoming year. Travel and auto allowance includes 17 trade and consumer travel shows . The professional services include tourism research. By mid-Florida marketing. There will be a special board meeting on September 17 two review their support request. Mid-Florida marketing was contracted to develop an ROI report on funded events by interviewing attendees and this will be used as a basis to determine event funding. As you can see, the event funding budget was reduced drastically , down to $90,000 from $172,000 last fiscal year. And that's it. Any questions? >> Ms. Denys.
Thank you. A couple comments here and then I think the manager wants to make a comment but I would like to ask some questions first of that's okay, Mr. Dineen. First of all, thank you. Thank you for filling a void. I am going to make some comments and then Mr. Dineen I will let you talk and I would like to reserve the right to come back after your comments. In your event support expenditures I am glad you talked about event funding. In the information I have here, all of a sudden I am seeing a whole bunch more requests for [ Indiscernible ] . My concern is, we have daytrip or in events -- events and if you look at this , when we come back and we will on this, I would like to see totals. It appears at first blush that one third of all event support expenditures are for daytrip activities . You are going to have to work really hard to prove to me that they are not those activities. The proof is when these have -- events happen, traffic is backed up and they are all leaving for the day. For example, take his name. When I go to Disney with my family and my grandkids, I think once in all of the years I have been here have I actually spent the night in Kissimmee. These are day-tripper events, and there is an increase , a marked increase. We are going back to the day that counsel stopped this several years ago. We will be addressing this . This is disconcerting. So I wanted to see proof that these are not day-tripper events. They need to be justified here. Who prepared your budget? >> It was prepared I believe a little bit by Carl before he left. Terry, and Bobby King came in when I was on vacation. There were some things that needed to be smoothed over while I was on vacation and Bobby King came in and worked on it with the budget department. The budget department was also involved. >> Okay. One thing that is missing here is the councils investment in trails, and as you know, this counsel just approved over $2 million for a triple hit -- trailhead that connects Edgewater to [ Name indiscernible ] beach. We have trails highlighted in Southeast Volusia and I thought -- we are missing a huge, huge investment in marketing. I think you are proof that they are coming over to West Volusia. That's a market totally missed, not captured at all or even in the discussion with this. I am going to reserve my right to come back after the manager's comments. Mr. Dineen if you would take it and then I will come back.
Thank you. One addition to your comment, Ms. Denys, is I think this is an opportunity with the new piece that the Council approved that connected directly to Smyrna Beach ought to be celebrated in the advertising. You will have a connector that goes both ways, from west side to the ocean -- it will be are only ocean connection directly -- and then connected directly. That ought to be celebrated some time. But before I make my other comment, let me say Renée, thank you very much. You are filling a void right now that unfortunately is larger than I anticipated. We're going to have to deal with that. I do appreciate you doing whatever you can. In some ways, I definitely agree with Ms. Denys and some of the comments she made, but how we get there during this transition period is somewhat of a challenge. Because you can't be everything to everybody. Okay? The concern I have for the councils sake is that you should have received yesterday the results from the audit we got.
Talking about the exit audit.
Yes. The good news about it is that there is no smoking gun. There is no expenditure were we found someone used a credit card improperly and bought something for themselves. But beyond that, and you always do in that scenario especially when your director leaves, especially the way it happened -- we did find some concerns that Renée knows about. I need you to understand what those concerns are, and on the administrative side we have some recommendations that we believe ought to go forward to make sure that the issues we found, which we were able to correct, can't happen again. So before you would approve their budget, I think you ought -- it wouldn't matter whether you put it off till the next meeting technically, but I think you ought to feel comfortable with what the audit found and what we think ought to be done in terms of addressing the issues found in the audit. In that way, I think you have full disclosure before you approve the budget. That would be my suggestion in terms of making sure that everyone is aware, because I want the council members to be fully aware of what we found because it was significant enough, and that we deal with it before we approve the budget. I think that would be a wise policy.
Would you be making that motion to postpone until next meeting?
No. I will postpone until there Southeast Volusia add authority board takes appropriate remedy to correct what has been disclosed on the exit audit. So whatever their board can remedy and present to us, because it will take board action from the Southeast Volusia add authority to remedy before it comes back to us for approval.
So the motion would be to postpone indefinitely. Because that could be next meeting or two meetings, or three meetings. However long it takes them --
Unless you want to call a special meeting. We can do that too.
Here is the issue. [ Indiscernible - multiple speakers ] we need to have approved a budget, which would be the best thing to do, by 24 September. Okay.
So that gives you adequate time to do exactly what you said.
Okay. That will give their board time to meet and review the audit and decide on remedy before Council approves this budget.
So you are asking for a postponement until --
Until the second meeting in September.
Okay. So postponement on this item until the second meeting of September.
Motion made by Ms. Denys, seconded by Mr. Lowry. Reader comments?
Know that's it, thank you.
And again, Renée thank you for stepping in.
The Council can -- the Southeast Volusia add authority can call as many meetings as they need in order to get their budget fixed.
Ms. Cusack -- your light was on?
Thank you. I would like to support the motion that we have just put on the floor. Also I have some concerns about these increases in some of these event support expenditures. They appear to be, in my opinion, [ Indiscernible ]. I would want further discussion as to where we are and justifiably so, these increases as it relates to your event support expenditures. >> That would be one of the concerns I have, that we ought to have some discussion so that we might approve these expenditures. Because I cannot approve these today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, ma'am. I have a quick question and maybe you can answer this, Renée. ACA community programs. What is that? >> Atlantic Center for the arts.
Okay. I didn't know what the ACA stood for. Been there. I was looking at a $44,000 expenditure and I'm going, wow. But now that it is ACA, I understand. It's a very expensive program, but it works. I talked about -- well off budget, never mind. Off-topic and I don't want to go that far. Okay, Mr. Dineen, closing comment?
Yes one final comment. I have heard this from a number of council members. I will throw this out to the Council to see if this is how they feel. One of the things that may help in terms of understanding what the member -- marketing campaign is , especially in southeast where there is an issue. Occupancy and issues about how many people are there -- it's not a need at certain times because you are pretty full -- this applies to Smyrna Beach. There are times when it is packed, and the issue is how do we get people off the beach? One of the concerns from councilmembers is, how do we tie the advertising in so that it is marketing so that we show that it is trying to market for the dead times? Not just general marketing, and you don't have to do that now, but you may want to address that . I have heard this from a number of councilmember, that they believe in what you are doing, but we don't show that. I think it is a lot more germane to Smyrna Beach. So in the marketing if you have already filled up the rooms, you can fill them up again. But during the times you don't have anyone there, how was that marketing focused on trying to fill those times? I don't think there is a clear picture in the presentation of how you are driving this.'s I think a number of councilmembers have said that in one way or another to me. So I thought I would mention it today. Thank you. >> Just to expound on that, Mr. Dineen, you are right. In peak times, if there is no advertising we will still be full. So to advertising during peak season, and I will tell you what I am hearing out in the community. When I am having lunch meetings beachside , I was there Monday after a busy weekend and it was dead. I was talking to the proprietor and I said, well you were slammed this weekend, and he said Ms. Denys, we live and die by weekends. We have to do something to get them here for 3 to 4 days. We need to include families and tie them to events and bring them in other than from Orlando and just for the weekend. We need four and five day events because what is happening is , our businesses are shortchanged on the weekends because they are slammed, but the may have too many staff during the week that they can't sustain. The tourism and marketing to brand itself is bigger than just one industry . So we have to strengthen some of our weak areas. Our product is very good, as you know. But we have weak areas we need to strengthen the marketing on, and I am hearing it more and more from some proprietors , without naming names, some business owners that are concerned. So Mr. Dineen is accurate that that is what I am hearing a lot of. If we can look at that as somehow -- to broaden that area. Marketing during our peak time is, well, they are going to come one way or another. So if we could look at however that happens. You guys are the professionals, but that is a dynamic. Mr. Dineen, coming back then, counsel, what I would like to do to, depending on this -- how this book goes. I think we need to look at ad authorities and pay structure -- how that goes for employees and how this is set in approval. I think there are some things that need to be strengthened because when there is a vacuum in change -- a vacuum and change , and I think we are seeing that again, I think it is time for counsel to have a policy discussion on ad authorities and setting some parameters. When we get through this, I am not doing it again.[ laughter ] We need to talk. And I think when we get to this exit audit and the budget comes back , counsel, we have a responsibility to set some policies and stop some of this. Renée. Thank you.
Thank you. We hired Evelyn fine with Midshipman Florida marketing and research to handle the Executive Director search. She did an excellent job in finding Tom. A wonderful job in finding Tom. And I wanted to make sure -- to a short counsel -- to assure people that they would have a strong person at the helm this time of that organization. So Ms. Denys, you don't have to go through this again. None of us have to go through this again, because it is difficult . I am happy to step in, but you can only do this so long. We have entirely different marketing plans, entirely different focuses and it is different with the different staff. I was happy to help out for a limited period of time. I want to assure you that by hiring this fine, that we will have the highest, utmost opportunity to have the right person in place that can guide the advertising, the marketing. That can make the changes in the organization that need to be made so that you have a healthy entity , a healthy organization, promoting the Southeast Volusia area.
Who did the search last time? >> No one. It was done with the board.
Okay. The board advertised out there on --
Right . Right.
Okay.
But missed fine, qualified, quantified -- Mrs. find qualified and quantified , she researched the references and spoke with people in the community where they have worked to make sure they are not just putting on a pretty face with the presentation. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am.
Okay there is a motion on the floor for continuance until the 24th? Is that the correct date?
Can I suggest this? That we be no later than the 24th and if by some chance we have a done for the first meeting in September, we bring it so that it gives you more time.
Is that okay with the motion? And the second? Okay. So amended. Could you please state the amended ? Restate your motion than. For the record.
Just for the record, we are going to bring back for approval Southeast Volusia ad authority budget no later than September 24.
I need a second to approve. Okay. Is that okay sir? I am always looking to you for procedure? We are good? He is happy. All right. So moved and seconded.
Mr. chair?
Oh. No sir you may not break the rules. [ Indiscernible - multiple speakers ]
Bob Davis.
Bob, one moment please. [ Indiscernible - multiple speakers ] I have a deputy here who would like to speak to me. Yes, Charles.
I would like to also say in regard to the efforts of Evelyn, we have some new board owners in Southeast Volusia working hard to get their hands around a lot of the processes and procedures. I don't want them to go unrecognized in their efforts. Buck so noted, Sir. Bob, I was in the middle of the question. You know that is a violation of the rules of order.
Me I just make a comment?
Is there any objection on the Council? Seeing no objection, -- I would like to -- think the counsel for the hard work you have been doing to bring in all the advertising agencies together and today I think you have seen the proof of all the efforts going on. One piece that was missed is that Volusia County in 2014 by the state of Florida -- not by any of the advertising boards -- brought in 9.1 million visitors. 9.1 million visitors . That's 600,000 more than the year before. That brings in bed taxes, taxes for the Ocean Center, and for that we are very thankful for all of the groups working together. I have been making the rounds per your suggestion to the advertising boards. I have not yet advertised -- visited one of them but I did go to Smyrna Beach and another place yesterday encouraging the board members to first of all come to the board meeting and secondly every so often call the councilperson who appointed them so that you are aware, not just once a year or from the newspaper of what is going on, and I think we have to think all of these folks for showing up today. Last but not least, I need to thank Deb for putting together a meeting with the college in Edgewater on a workforce that will be going to -- and I am leaving right now at one deck 00 with the entire community of Edgewater and what the college can do. Thank you for giving me that time. >> Bob, stop. Walk over there and fill out a yellow form, Sir. Correct , Mrs. Zimmerman? Get over there and fill that out. In triplicate, now. [ laughter ] Is there any other comment?
Good. I am calling the question. The motion is for postponement of the Southeast Volusia advertising budget approval until at latest 24 September. Motion by Ms. Denys, second by Mr. Lowry . All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. All those post. So carried -- all those opposed. So carried. >> Okay. Well you have a boards that you can deal with on that. Thank you, ma'am. >> Everyone okay, do we need a five-minute break? No we are moving on. Item number eight. Mr. Wagner.
I wanted to for the record pull all agenda items as well. >> You were a little late on that. It's already been done. >> Here is the reason why. I'm going to make a motion to pass all agenda items.
Okay there is a motion on the floor to pass all agenda items. All agenda items?
All consenting items. If I could do that, I would.
Is that permissible? Is said motion -- >> Unless you have public participation slips. Unless you -- are there public participation slips?
No sir. There is a motion on the floor to pass all agenda items. Is there a second. Mr. Davis. Perfect.
Further comment, Mr. Wagner.
I was going to keep the floor.
Why don't you yield? >>[ laughter ] Just remember he who talks the most --
Mr. Daniels, you have the floor.
The reason I pulled them is that I read through the [ Indiscernible ] and there are and number of discrepancies in numbers and some incomplete packages that I thought. That's what I was going to be bringing up. But in looking at it, it is the sort of thing that I can talk to individual members of the staff to get straightened out, and I don't really want to take the County Council's time with that. So what I would do is -- I would amend Mr. Wagner's motion to exclude the two that Ms. Denys pulled and the one that has already been passed.
Can I just consent to that?
Well -- here is the easiest way to do this. You would have to restate a new motion, and he would have to restate the second.
[ Indiscernible - multiple speakers ] I think it is 24 and 35 that she pulled. And then there is 18 that has are ready been done.
18 has already been handled .
I withdraw my motion with a new motion.
Hold it. Okay. The items that have been pulled and already taken care of is 18, 25, I've been keeping score, and Ms. Denys has pulled 24 and 35. So your motion is approval of all consent items excluding 24, 35, 18, and 25.
Okay.
So moved?
Seconded. We are moving along at a high rate of speed. Any further discussion on said matters? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying aye. All those opposed. So carried, thank you gentlemen for helping.
Now we will jump right ahead to item 24, Ms. Cusack Thank you. This really is for discussion and Mr. Daniels I wish I could enqueue for sending me to Pompeii for the day to hire a new executive director. He probably wished you were there instead of me to at the end of the day. What I would like to pass out now is a handout. I don't know if you have seen these. I will give you one here . If we can put it up on the overhead? Just take one and pass it down. Here is what I learned after sitting there for six hours . And interviewing for an executive director, which by the way we hired a very good guy. Duane is very competent. Here's my concern. Indian River County, there are supposed to be five counties in this collaborative. Indian River County opted out because their fear was that the South Florida water management District would control all the projects. So I listened, I listened to the EPA, I listened to the water management, South Florida water management and then they went to the call for projects. Remember the legislative session begins in January.
Here's their list of projects that this group was prepared to send to the legislature. I want you to note that there is not one project from Volusia County on this list. No that's funded. I'm talking new projects. New projects, $220 million here for and ask, and not one from Volusia County. I sat there and heard other people from the audience and distinguished panel demand return on investor , my question was you tell me where the Return on Investment is for Volusia counties $50,000 and why not one project? Tom Kerry was there in the audience. I talked with Lewis McGee on the way home. We were not notified -- Volusia County was not notified for a list of projects in the call for projects. When I was there and I asked him, who came up with this list? He said we have a scientist that does it. I said you should have told us we needed to hire a scientist to get a project on the list . I was very frustrated. No one could answer my questions. No one could answer my questions. So for $50,000 -- and if you look, it is clear. South Florida is controlling the agenda and this is why Indian River backed out. So what happened with Indian River County, why we have the amendment here. There are three cities that wanted to join the collaborative since the county wouldn't. And we are being asked to approve that. But here's the thing. As I look at that and listen, I thought okay. They have had this on the list for quite a while. However, three of the cities that are asking to join from Lake County separate from the county, there ask is on here and they have anything yet been approved to be part of the collaborative. So what I realized in sitting there -- I researched probably more than I should, and I read more than I should , but all of those hours of sitting there and listening, St. John River water management and South Watt -- South Florida water management each contributed $500,000 to this collaborative. So you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out where these projects are going to go and how the money is going to flow, let alone the water. So I have to tell you, I don't know what the answer is. Doug, I would like to hear my councils input because for $50,000 , if we turn that back over to our staff, and I asked Kelly McGee, what would you do with $50,000. She said we would have money to do these survey to get this project ready. We might just be more -- we might just do a better job in-house and letting staff do this. I am not convinced this is the answer. Especially after sitting there all day. I am not convinced of Volusia County being part of this collaborative is going to make any difference to Volusia County. I am just not there. I would like to hear your input. I'm sure you disagree with me.
[ Indiscernible - multiple speakers ] Mr. Patterson's next. >> I kind of agree with councilmember Deborah Denys. I am going to make a motion that we not agree to the amendment of whatever this thing is, and to allocate the $50,000 to County staff to come up with Project staff -- any remainder is used to pay our lobbyists, Gray Robinson law firm to lobby those issues for us.
Isn't that what they do? Isn't that what they are supposed to do anyway?
Yes but we're asking them to do something else. We are adding to it and I feel that is the fair thing to do.
There is a motion -- this is a new one. There is a motion for disapproval, is that the proper term?
Motion to deny. I like that. Motion to deny the amendment to the Indian River local agreement. Do I hear a second? Buck one moment Sir. I think that motion had two parts the second part was not to pay the $50,000, which is the annual -- standby.
Restate the motion, sir.
Deny the amendment to the Indian River program an agreement and not pay the $50,000 contribution to the Indian River program.
So basically you are saying -- wouldn't it be easier to say motion with -- to withdraw from the national Indian River? >> Know because we have never written a check to begin with.
Okay, never mind. >> And after this motion passes I want to make another motion.
Okay. The motion is to deny the amendment to Indian River Lagoon estuary program, and to not pay the $50,000 annual contribution. Do I hear a second?
Second. Thank you, Ms. Denys. Now there is a whole bunch of discussion. Mr. Eckert, you have tried to jump in here. We should hear from the lawyer first. >> Effectively it would be a withdraw for the upcoming fiscal year.
Okay. All right, Mr. Daniels. You have the floor Sir.
Actually, I am number two. There should be someone in front of me. I am showing up as number two.
It's me. You have the for two, -- you have the floor two.
Go ahead Sir.
I think the staff was aware of the timeframe in which we needed to get our projects in. In talking to Kelly McGee , if Kelly is around anywhere, that we did get projects in . She was telling me this was something thrown together just at the last minute to give to the legislature and not to worry about it. I don't know. We will have to talk to the staff and find out why our projects aren't here. I don't know why they are not. They should have been. If the staff has no interest in being part of the Indian River Lagoon. Then we should get out of it. >> All right. Mr. chair?
Yes sir?
The staff doesn't decide policy. The staff doesn't decide if we are [ Indiscernible ] or not. They should talk to me. Make a recommendation, I pass it along. I do know there was a recommendation -- there was a request as to how we have done here recently . Marion can handle that for us. >> I have a list for counsel in terms of money we have received from the district and some of the funding agencies. I haven't looked at what was approved by the district. The Indian River Lagoon coalition, so I don't know what the distinction maybe . I believe given -- what I have heard at some of the meetings, there is a concern in terms of prioritizing for those portions of the Lagoon that have been designated as impaired. Volusia County does not have that designation. If that is going to be part of the ranking, I think Mr. Daniels will remember we had this as part of our discussion with the district .
In deed we did.
We said we are always going to be at a disadvantage for not being sufficiently impaired. [ laughter ] >> [ Indiscernible - low volume ]
It is.
In order -- in other words you have to be dead in order to qualify.
Exactly. For not having let our waters get bad enough, we are perhaps in a competitive position. But that is something I would like to look at as far as what has been approved versus what was requested. And give counsel a more thorough analysis of what we think may have occurred.
I think that might be a good idea. I was talking to Kelly and Kelly was going to be getting me a list of the projects that we had requested. I haven't gotten that list yet.
I will distribute that. >> I told Kelly as soon as I got the list I would get them to put it on their legislative list. It wouldn't be difficult.
Maryanne is distributing it today.
Okay. >> There has been no opportunity for me to get in touch with him to see if they will put it on their legislative list. I think that this is probably the only game in town. We should be a part of it because I think we will get up -- wind up getting our fair share out of it. But can I say that for sure? Absolutely not. What do I think the reason for doing this is? I don't really know. I have been a member of this group when it was an advisory group to the water management districts. Then it became the group that we actually made the decisions and it was going to be moved away from the board of management groups [ Indiscernible ] and we would be the ones to actually make a decision. But they were the major funders. If you are the major funders and your say so is more than other people's, you kind of have to wonder why that structure was adopted. It may be that this structure would be adopted and then the state of Florida will back out and quit funding anything. I don't know. I don't really know where this is going. I have no idea, no roadmap . The only thing I would say is, right now it is probably better to be in the tent then out of the tent. Until you realize that being in the tent is not worthwhile. And it could well turn out to be that way. I'm not saying that you are wrong. But if we get our projects added to the list, that would be useful. I do think that they would be promoting those as actively as they promote anything else. The EPA has shown a willingness to move the board -- from [ Name indiscernible ] to the county line, which gives us the opportunity to get some money to correct some problems in the north pole and Sele -- North Peninsula , and money for those kinds of projects. It's possible. Whether or not it actually comes about, I don't know. I can't predict the future. I just don't know how this organization is going to work. So that is kind of where we are. Everyone is feeling their way. Anyone who is a member of the organization would have the -- would be saying the same things I am saying. They don't know how it is going to work. Even the people in South Florida don't know. Indian River -- they are representative -- their representative to the Council had some sort of problem with DEP, had a problem with St. John's, and had a problem with the water management District. All three. He didn't want any of them involved in it and that was his major issue. He thought it should be the counties and not these other governments at all. Which seemed to me to be a little bit unrealistic because everyone is putting in the money. They are putting in the majority of the money they are going to want a representative. I did not understand his thinking at all. But the city's down there all wanted to be members. And their County Council members wanted to be on it. I suspect that they will be joining -- Indian River will be joining. I don't think that there is a particular plot to benefit South Florida. But I will tell you this, we have a week South Florida legislative delegation and they have a strong one. They have
Negron. We don't have that. It's a problem for us up here and it is going to be a continual one . To think that our legislative efforts, that our lobbying is also -- all of a sudden going to turn our weak political position into a strong one is wishful thinking . We might do better being part of a group that has some legislative clout behind it. Thank you.
All right, thank you sir. >> Like most of you, we are all on a bunch of boards. All of the boards I am on our out of the county. We go down to the congressional leadership, East Central Florida commissions, and I go to all of these boards and there is one thing I always -- it doesn't take long for me to see the writing on the wall. We are just a secondary thought. We are always a secondary thought. Everything goes to Orlando. All roads lead to Orlando. All money must follow to do the world or see world or universal or those places down there. Even on East Central Florida. We have been talking about oh we're going to do the drain line into Canaveral. Into the port so we can get freight off of these ships. And use rail to bring it in here to the FEC line and they will run up -- when the freight up and down. What about us? I keep looking at these people and saying, hey, over here. We submit projects . We keep getting second banana on everything. I even asked , when we were down there for the congressional leadership meeting on the expansion project . I said. I have a dumb question. Why don't you start on the north side and move south? We are the bedroom community for Orlando. If you do it there, start where we ended at 472 and expand I-for all the way south. -- I-4. For you, that makes no sense to me. I would rather save the $50,000 and use it somewhere where it benefits the citizens of Volusia County. I have to agree with the motion. Mr. Dineen?
Just a quick comment to say I do know my staff has become frustrated on this whole issue of impairment because a lot of us refer to it -- the way this is set up, only when you are dead will we render first aid. That's why instead of getting ahead of it, the lesson is you have a better chance. Wait till something is something -- wait until something is really damaged before we give you a. That part , my staff is frustrated by.
I have no question on that. -- One question. Who determines what waterway is impaired? >> I think most of those are determined by DEP.
Okay. I have a suggestion. Why don't we postpone this until the second meeting in September and see what happens next see if there is any change -- see what happens? See if there is any change or we will be can -- included as an equal partner on this thing? I had not seen this list. I had assumed that our projects would be on the list when it came out. I didn't see this thing. I am really kind of surprised that they are not there. I think I can get them on there and get them ratcheted up to the position that they should be. But if we can't, if it is going to be one of those things that the people with the money -- the people with the legislative clout down in the southern end of the lagoon to the mid-part of the lagoon are the ones going -- who are going to get everything, then we are wasting our time. And we should know that fairly shortly.
Well there is a motion on the floor for the denial of the amendment and not to pay the $50,000.
I would ask though, if we go through that , whether that passes or not -- is that passes then we can make another motion to say we can postpone to make a decision on this matter until the decision -- until the second meeting in September.
Mr. Chairman, my motion. Mr. Patterson made the motion.
The motion has been restated by the spare -- chair. The motion belongs to the entire body to be defeated or whatever.
Okay.
Okay Mr. Lowry. You still have the floor.
Just a final comment. Maybe we have their attention, Mr. Daniels. I certainly made some comments at the meeting that went unanswered. My frustration was, because I asked the same question, why is there nothing on here from Volusia? No one could answer it or tell me where the list came from or how it is going to go forward. Is there another meeting between now and -- when do they meet again? Do they meet every month? >> Yes. It usually meets every month. It was meeting every two weeks. Whether or not they have a meeting is irrelevant. I will go up and meet on the -- meet with the people at St. John's. They are the ones who came up with this list. >> I have been told the next meeting is September 11, if that helps. >> Okay. Because I will say this. Through that whole process that I sat through before this, I was really impressed with Duane. With the did -- executive director that this collaborative hired. It is my understanding that Volusia County has good ties and relationships with him professionally . And he recognizes Volusia counties issues. -- Volusia County's issues.
We do have a good relationship with him . And another person we have good ties with is Henry Dean. And I think given time, we have the strings we can pull to get where we need to be. I understand the level of frustration on the part of the staff and on the part of the council, but I do think we can get there. We will either get there quickly or punt , shall we say.
Back up 10 yards and punt? >> Okay. Well we're going to go for the question then. The motion is to deny amendment to the estuary program local agreement and not pay the annual $50,000 cogitation amount. Seeing no further discussion, all those in favor please signify by aye.
I.
All those opposed. Aye. Mr. Patterson and Mr. Davis were for the motion. All others were opposed. Motion did not pass. We will enter another motion.
Doug, when is your next meeting?
11:00 is what I was told.
Okay. Which meeting did you want to put it on again? >> The last one in September would be good because then I will have time to talk to St. John's. And then I will have time to go through the meeting. -- To the meeting. By then I will have a good opportunity to understand where things sit. The Indian River Council is not really up and operating now. It is really St. John's that is running everything. The Council is not in control of anything right now. It is just getting organized. It just hired someone to be the Executive Director, which was the first step in getting it going. So this is not an Indian River Council document, and I hope not indicative of what it does. This is a St. Johns River water management District document.
We're still not on it.
I would say that St. John's has been moving away from and paying less attention to the lagoon system and those functions. That they are just waiting for the day that they dump it all on Indian River Council and they are done.
Exactly. Thank you.
Okay, Mr. Eckhard.
Mr. chair, with regard to the postponement of the issue.
[ Indiscernible - multiple speakers ] the motion had two parts. You could approve the amendment today, allowing the County to participate . And deferred payment -- consideration of payment to the 24th if that were your pleasure. >> I am sure the cities of Indian River would really appreciate us letting them do that.
We should just go ahead and prove their admission -- they only have one vote. It's not like we're getting watered down by admitting them. If the county ever comes in , the county has one vote. We probably ought to approve that Andy for the $50,000 to show our displeasure with the way things are net -- right now . And move on.
Is that emotion, Sir?
Yes or.
Okay the emotion is to accept the amendment to -- I am asking a question -- this is a motion to accept the amendment to the program Interlocal agreement, but withhold the $50,000 annual payment, is that correct?
Yes exactly.
I did that pretty good. And a second? Ms. Denys? So carried.
Yes Mr. Patterson, go right ahead. I knew you were going there.
I feel -- I know Mr. Daniels can be very convincing. You can go down there and talk to them. -- Him. I feel like you will get lipservice from him. If we really get anything out of him I will start believing in the Easter Bunny and to Sperry.
Return on Investment. We will get a report and see what happens.
Okay. >> Any further discussion?
Okay. The motion is to approve the amendment to the Indian River Lagoon program, but withhold the annual contribution of $50,000. All of those in favor please signify by saying aye.
Aye. >> All opposed. So carried, unanimous. >> Thank you, Ms. Denys. Item 35. You still have the floor. Ms. Denys. Item 35.
Thank you. The port orange traffic signal at Taylor Road and Crane Lakes . Can you talk to me about the traffic study that was there. That justifies that this is needed?
Let me back up. For a second so we're all clear. The request as I have understood this -- the original request came from the homeowners association in Crane flake. I think we need to sit down with them. They made the request, and that was from their residence , and it is our road. We did not have the money , and we did not -- we were not in the process of putting in this light at all. They requested it and if we go back, what we understood what we would do is work with them. But port orange is the one that officially had the -- that requested them. We don't take requests from H a ways. -- From homeowners -- homeowners associations. So we're acting as a conduit for this. We had to do a traffic study on this to see if it was warranted at all. That was done. That doesn't mean we were going to advocate for it that was asked to be done by port orange. I asked if someone from port orange could be here and no one could be here. >> So, talk to me about the traffic study? Did it justify it?
That is the question.
Good afternoon, chairman, councilmembers. I am a traffic engineer. We originally did a study in 2010 and at that time we said, based on the traffic volumes coming out of the residential subdivision , and the traffic on that road, that we would recommend a traffic signal. However, because it was a private subdivision in the city, we asked the homeowners Association and the city to work together to build the traffic signal, and at a certain point, the HOA came back to us, back to this esteemed body to ask that that traffic signal move forward. You asked us to do that. So we have an update -- we did an update to that study in 2014, which again, based on the traffic volumes coming out of the side street, out of the residential subdivision and on Taylor Road, it does meet all of the numbers -- the volumes of traffic we needed to justify the traffic signal. >> Let me be clear. The distinction that we have emphasized is that, while it is a county road, it is within the city jurisdiction. The need for the signal is for city residents. Our history with city -- certain cities is that they will defer people to the county because it is a county road. We have worked very hard to try to make this distinction. The request for the study came from the HOA. We did the study and that was it . The study says what it says, but if you want the light to be done, it must be done with city support. And financing. >> Right.
That is the position that came back to the County Council last year when the HOA came and said we would like the county again to do this. We sent them back to the city. We contacted the city and said, are you going to get behind this request? It was occurring simultaneously with the request over on Williamson. And in both cases we emphasized, the city needs to get behind these requests. Financially. And support their installation. And that is what brought us to today with this .
So let's be clear here. It was not wanted and -- if the city did not want it, we would not be doing it.
And this is really for clarification because there is going to be pushback on this when residents out there realize that the site is going up. The traffic pattern out there already on Taylor that cuts into done Lawton . I wanted this to go on record with the history and why this is occurring. But then I will make a motion to approve. Thank you.
Motion for approval. Second. Thank you, Ms. Cusack. Second.
-- Seconded.
I agree with Ms. Denys over there because my wife and I go to church across that bridge, and we go up and get on that trail. Once you get to Taylor Road where the old Publix is , it takes me 12 minutes to get over there and then it takes me 20 minutes to go from there over the bridge. The traffic is -- it is one light after another and people are getting crazy out there the way they are driving. There are so many traffic lights, they are just so frustrated. And going the other way. So it's amazing. There needs to be something done with the way the traffic flows. Whether the lights need to be better coordinated. You hit three lights just before you get to I-95. Three lights and you're not even underneath I-95. In the space of -- I don't know, I could run across.
Yes at the half a mile. >> The design of that intersection is crazy, cutting across -- you can get lost in that.
It's ridiculous.
That's not our issue. The issue is the agreement for the port orange traffic signal on County Road/ Taylor Road. Revenue from the city of Port Orange, $200,000. Motion for approval, the study seconded by Ms. Cusack . All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. All of post. And so carried unanimously. -- All opposed. And so carried unanimously. And now we will have a lunch in the training room. We will be in lunch recess to reconvene at 2:00. [The event is on lunch recess. The session will reconvene at 2:00 Eastern Standard Time. Captioner on stand by.]
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If the cham betters could come to order. This is the afternoon session. August 20. We will start with our 2:00. Which is permit item 4 2. Request for permit to remove a historic tree in Deland. We have a staff report.
Kelley is going to handle this. After she gets done, she's going to walk through -- they have a resolution for this. I'll say it now. We are always looking for -- perfect example of where this has to come back to the council when I think if they -- if the staff had the authority on these things and they can negotiate something out, you're spending a lot of time on a historic tree, for example, and it just so happens it fits this meeting. If you work it out and two weeks to wait they have to bring to it you. That slows permitting. It can be handle by staff if they can work out agreement. When the business community is saying you need to move things along,s that perfect example. Here's the other thing. The reason they have worked out an grooej agreement fits what I asked them do is to find ways to make these things work. I really believe they should only come to you if we can't find a way that benefits all parties and protects the environment. This is a perfect example of regulation we have that slow it is process down. We may want to look at the way we change these things to the fact they negotiate a settlement to make it work it doesn't need to go to council. Speeds it up for everybody.
Kelley?
Ms. Cusack my sni in response to Mr. Dinneen how often does it happen? It detains us from moving along.
If your question is how long -- how often do we have historic trees? Every historic tree? No. The process? The typically adds a month to all processes. When you have a special exception that comes to council. Goes to PRDLC first. So those typically take another month to get to county council. Variances PRDLC makes the final decision. Those only come to you on appeal. We've gone back and forth on special exception. It depends on what council wants to see. Most special PRDLC a --
What I was going to suggestion is not I want to -- I want to bring suggestion sos you only deal with maybe there's a conflict rather than some cases when they come up in agreement so happens spends on meeting schedule you can lose a month.
Can agree with that. I just need to feel comfortable that I'm shot sharking the responsibility that we have delegated as elected officials.
Thank you. Ms. McGee you have the floor.
Thank you. I'm Kelli McGee director of growth and resource management. The ap can't today questions -- applicant requestions the removal of a tree on the east side of U -- and the south ied of Deland. The first that you saw was an image of the historic tree. That is found on 42-7. The second slide on 42-3. That is an example of where in the world it's Lowe located. Close to here. On the south side of town. The land development code as the county manager mentioned does require coat count approval to remove. There are two historic trees on site. 42-10 of your agenda item. In the agenda item before you staff included two recommended conditions that would fully protect the root zone of the remaining historic tree. If you can point to the historic tree that will remain. The original recommended conditions would ensure that enough specimen trees would retain to meet the code requirements. If you could point out the treat trooe to be removed? I'm pleased to say that staff and the applicant have worked very well together. The applicant has offered new conditions relative to the remaining historic tree as well as additional conditions to protect the root zone of the historic tree. What you're seeing here is the new plant. This isn't in your agenda. This reflects the agreement reached between the applicant and staff. For the tree remaining, if you could point that one out. That shows in red sort of the canopy of the tree. The agree circle is what we would typically ask to be preserved for the root zone to ensure the tree remains healthy in the future and isn't damaged by the proposed development. What the applicant has done they've proposed to reserve the area in yellow which will be patrolly -- approximately 60% of the root zone. In addition in order to compensate for the placement of the other historic tree is they're proposing protection a portion of the root zone of a historic tree not even on this property. They would be benefitting another historic tree off of this site. Exactly. So they've proposed a plan. If a -- a two page plan involves certified arborists coming in and air rating the roots and removing exotic plants, spooe-x species and providing replacement for tree loss and attempt to save approximately 75% of the root zone, what I'm calling the root zone of whatever specimen trees will remain as well as planti live oaks. What you have before you staff would recommend the approval of these conditions as opposed to the conditions we had originally in the agenda item. That concludes my staff report.
Any other staff reports snp okay. Mr. Ford. Did you fill out a yellow slip >>Ny of course he did.
Okay. Very well. State your name.
Alex Ford. I want to disclose I'm one of the property owners. The property where the historic tree sits is the property I own. To Ms. Cusack question and Mr. Dinneen remark. I have with me two engineers an arborist, environm specialist plus my -- and me. Not only the time delay but also the additional expense going through this. We've done a Power Point presentation of the added expense and I'm going to go through that quickly until somebody tells me to sit down and shut up at which point I do so.
Be careful.
I can make this go away really quick.
You could. [ Laughter ]
Was that a motion [ Laughter ]
Should I sit down? I've got one picture. I'll go quick.
No, I said please go ahead. [ Laughter ]
This is the site. If you're not familiar with it. The flea market. Home less camp. I'm waiting. Not a great place to begin with. As one of the property owners. The homeless camp is on my property and we've run those people off time and time again. There's a flea market. This is a property, I'm going to guess this is 2004. The whole thing flooded. The whole reason we had to remove the tree is because we have to elevate it. Furniture store. My homeless camp and journey junk yard to reremoved. I'm still waiting for a moengs.
I need to get recognized by the chair first.
Okay. I usually let the speaker speak.Al election if you would like someone to make a motion?
Mr. Patterson would you make a motion. I
Mr. Chair I move that we approve item 42 permit to remove historic tree subject to the approved and conditions that are in the attachment that we have.
So I have a motion for approval. Approval for the permit to remove a historic tree at 17-92 as long as including all provisions named in ta tached document. A second by Ms. Cusack.
You yield the floor sir?
I'm sorry. I was looking at him.
Do you yield the floor?
I want to make sure staff is okay. We got an agreement. Everything is okay.
We do appreciate it. Staff worked very hard on this.
Mr. Wagner? Okay. No further discussion? September Mr. Alex -- except Mr. --
Those in favor signify by aye.
I have one last slide. That is my sister Lisa. Yesterday was the first day of harvest affidavit at the grove.
I want to see you squirm this morning, Mr. Ford.
Moving on to item 43. We're on time. Amendment to the agreement of the welcomeson Boulevard extension.
This is a follow up to a project that started in agreement na the council originally under took in 2005. Predates me. Joe, I think it was the last meeting a discussion to bring back the final agreement. This includes all the issues that were -- I don't want to say unresolved. Dealing with the details the payments to be made the money spent and how it will be spent. What credits and how the credits are to be used. They are all in the agreement. We sent a -- we spent a lot of time on this. Jamie did a lot of work and rob and I thank them both. I know Mr. House is in the audience if there's any questions. Pretty straightforward.
Thank you. Any further staff discussion?
Open for the council. Mr. Daniels.
Thank you. Look through the agreement it's changed over time. We agreed to pay 9.8 and then some grant money came in. Got it up to 15.3. Do we know what the engineering and design cost of this road is?
Mr. Ross you want to come forward?
State your name.
Bevel beach. Those particular items are delineated separately. The design fees are right at a million dollars.
Okay. Have the construction bids been -- are they back yet? >>
The construction bids we followed the Florida statute. Went through the full process which was reviewed by your county staff. Specifically county engineer. Low bidder was Halifax paving. That contract has been awarded.
How much was that?
That is right at $10 million.
Like a $11 million road? Would that be fair?
It's going to be a $15 million project with mitigation costs landscaping. All of it total project cost right at the $15 million.
I guess my question was in looking through the agreement that those costs were not county costs. How does this work? I know you got the grant money. You know, the 9 . .8 was not including, mitigation not including storm water and value of the land that kind of thing.
The way it works is there will need to be an $11 million cost to tap into the dprant funds on a dollar for dollar match. The balance of the county's money will be used for the other items listed in in the agreement. Specifically includes the mitigation cost which is right at a million.
Is that revised agreement or current.
The agreement before you today.
Okay. But the old one did not include that. We will be paying mitigation that is not included in the old agreement?
The mitigation was always intended to be a project expense as part of total cost. You can't build a road without mitigating for wetland.
The old agreement -- see if I can -- seem to suggest that mitigation was an expense that the county was not going to be responsible for.
I think that specific part that was in the language was limited to that one section but not to the total mitigation cost -- it's always been a total project expense. Ultimately it's a county road.
And the -- it seemed that that part was something that the developer was going to be paying and not the county.
That was never contemplating to be an expense on the developer, no.
Dan, do you have an opinion on that?
I don't have the prior agreement in front of me. I looked at it this week. The mitigation was part of the contingency. An allowable cost within the 9.8 million but part of the project contingency.
The cap? >>
The cap was 9.8. Which changed to dpat impact fee -- ponds privately owned and maintained. The -- this allows some recoopment of cost -- recoupment of cost expended. Recapture of cost which have -- which are project costs but would be previously extended. More than what was originally contemplated. It allows for the landscaping. I'm sorry. The word was evading me for a second.
Okay. In the old agreement the -- where as clause talks about that the county is not robl for storm water retention and compensation. In other words we're not reasonable for mitigation storm water retention. Not reasonable for any of that thing.
That was both the detention and retention. Then there was the mitigation. The previous agreement port Orange provided a half million of mitigation. There was an allowanc mitigation within the 9.8. This allows for mitigation still within the 9.8 but doesn't have to be part of the project contingency. Again, what you're doing is with this agreeme recognizing, by impact fee credit, the benefit of the ponds which are being provide on privately owned lands which we have a none exclusive easement.
The agreement enforced now already has that. The dwoeper -- developer supposed to prooifd the land supposed to provide that and the maintenance. What are we getting that we don't have now? I mean, why?
I think it's fair to say that over the decade this road has been contemplated the engineering challenges and cost associated with them were greater than what we thought in 2005. I think the -- I can't say the amounts. Developer is going to be absorbing some of the amounts. They've asked for you to recognize that in part through the impact fee credits. If you were to build this road today we talked to the -- I think you would have that cost of -- for the ponds that would be this amount or greater.
Okay. Well the we'll be paying -- the total amount will be 15.8 for the road.
Yes, sir. >> Wouldn't that cover that amount? We've gron 9.8 to -- we actually went from 8.8 to 9.8 to 15.8.
My understanding from previous council when there was an issue about this road was that we were going to pay for the whole thing. They were going to build a public road and cap them at 9.8. There was talk at one time because the c wanted to have the road. If there'ves there would be more money coming from us and the council said no more than 9.8. There was work to get the grant. Quite Frankly if we DeDidn't get the money the work wasn't going to go through and the previous council was not interested in going over the 9.8.
Okay. But then the 400 would be for the thing it is developer is already obligated to take care of of -- take care of. It would be for retention areas. Off the right-of-way and for mate innocence that the current agreement says they're reasonable for. Is there something in addition they're doing for the the impact fee credits? I'm not sure I heard all the words in --
I'm not sure I heard all the words in your question. The impact fee are in recognition specifically allocated to the ponds previously contemplated those would be provided. The cost of the -- of the project is more than what it was contemplated as originally conceived.
Do we have numbers that show that? If we have numbers that show that it would be useful?
I'm not prepared with those numbers today. This -- you're still within your 9.8 and there will be the construction costs alone is about $10 million. That was within around 9.8 or so a coincidence of numbers. That was for the construction project. Let athrown mitigation spent. The engineering --
You think that would amount to 5.8?
What I think this agreement -- this brings to you the tomorrow water resterngs giving some for that. Provides -- this agreement allows for some enhancement for landscaping that the original agreement probably would not. On the other hand if you go back ten years, I don't think the road would have been built.
We don't do landscaping. We've told people in my district that we don't do that. People at timber creek were upset that there was no landscaping. We said we never do landscaping. It is not something we pay for or something we do.
I don't think dish don't have all the developer's cost. I don't think all the costs have been captured. You are proproviding some enhanced bit of land skauping. The CDD will be responsible for that.
For land escaping?
Maintenance.
We don't put in landscaping. We didn't put in at timber creek or LPGA. That's not what we do.
This allows for some. Also our costs can not exceed 9.8. Substance -- what probably would be reduced within the within our 9.8 if anything is the landscaping. Other costs, change orders and the like.
Looks like there's more money in the deal than costs in the road and we would be doing a 480 impact fee credit on top of that for the thing it is kwoper is -- developer is already ob gated to provide.
I think what I can -- the only thing can I say is developer in 2012 when this was in front of you asked to be able to do was to trourn you for impact fee credits for the cost that might be exceed p we've allocated that to the storm water. We would have incurred that cost. The right-of-way remains noncompensated.
That's provisions not in the agreement anywhere is my point.
An agreement for them to convey the right-of-way. The agreement for impact fee credits is not in that agreement. People say things all the time in front of the council and we might not disagree with them but doesn't mean we agree.
Let me jump in. I'll be candid. ? 2012 it's on the record when the road was designed and after they bitted, they reserved the right to come down. 2005 when the original agreement when the county was more apt to give credits. My concern is where we go forward. The council has to make the decision on whether they grant those credits. the -- the bottom line for the council as far as I know. The two council'ses gone through this. The road over $15 million and said never going to pay more than 9.8. The cost has gone up so much. We do do some capital on landscaping like US 1. Only if someone else does the maintenance. Especially irinvestigating it. Dir irrigation.
It sounds like we're fuzzy on the numbers for the cost of the road and the 4.8 for things that at least in the written form of the agreement .
Mr. Wagner?
Any other comments?
No further public comments.
I'm comfortable making a motion to move forward.
Your motion is?
As stated.
Your motion is as stated okay. Motion for the amendment of the agreement for the Williamson Boulevard extens Provided Mr. Wagner and second by Mr. Patterson. Any further discussion?
Just that it's very needed. If you're in my area. It's so congested and so difficult to navigate. And I appreciate what developers can do to get it done. This is how projects get done. How we advance the community. We just left the chamber meeting talk about infrastructure. I look forward to traveling it and saving time as well as the people I represent in the area we share. That air when you get to Taylor is a nightmare.
Need relief before all the other construction starts.
School is about to start. School starts -- it's awful.
I thought school already started.
I saw a school bus drive by.
Yours starts when you send them there.
Starts Monday? Don't drive in that area Monday. I'm looking forward to this project getting done. I'm very glad about that.
Mr. Dinneen.
I'll point out if you remember the discussion about this road one of the issues two previous councils had. This is a needed connecter that allows us to make the argument, make the case which we did in to the best of my recollection JR for the interchange of 95 and pioneer -- they see the dangerous we face in evacuation trying to get all that stuff through done Latin.
This road is crucial. Two ways. Allows you to connect that area for more transportation. The other thing it shows our commitment and our match of local money to make the area function better to just -- justify the interchange. This is a key piece. If we make it and get the interchange.
Any further discussion? Seeing no further discussion. All those in favor of the amendment to the agreement for the Williamson Boulevard extension as provided signify by aye. All those opposed. Mr. Daniels is no. Marcy? Motion passes 6-1. >> Moving to item 44. Mosquito lagoon water quality presentation.
Thank you. I'm Kelli McGee and I'm here this afternoon to introduce the members of the Estuary and waterwaist enhancement trust. >> Tough give that to Marcy Zimmerman. you put it on the record you have to give it to her. For those new to this all attachments go to Ms. Zimmerman. While you're getting together I'll also --fy may -- if I may. Mr. Richard Haks. Senior marketing director for harbatel.
Sturn.
My name is Tom Friend. Good to be in front of you all. Thank you for having me. How do we -- let's try this. Water clartty. Why does it always say water clarity? If I go to mosquito lagoon and I put my arm in the water and I can't see my hand, that's water clarity. That means the sunlight is not get down there. When the sun light does not get down there then the plants don't produce the objection gin they've been producing for mega thousands of years. We get a low oxygen situation. That's very much the situation in Mosquito Lagoon. Low -- oxygen. That's why the clarity is so important. When there's lack of oxygen the microbes and other organisms that live there are in a much lesser population. I'll go on here. Okay. That's Mosquito Lagoon. It's beautiful. We want to keep thought way. This tells us a little bit about it. The whole Indian lagoon area the most diverse in the United States. When it's -- nitrogen. We breathe nitrogen. Hydrogin . We drink hydrogen. So what is the problem? When they get together they are ammonia. Now all the creatures in the lagoon and in ourest aware. Produce ammonia. The plants that live when they die they take up oxygen and produce ammonia. A waste product that is toxic. It settles to the bottom and at the bottom, EPA's term. Transformed by microbes. These microbes take up the hydrogen and release the stable, safe nitrogen. That's what we would like to see going on. These are two of our bridges. As you can see they are very square. They block a tremendous amount of water. We have an expert who will actually give you more information on that. 91 was the first study. And there was another one in 1999 and quite a few scientific studies. Several paid for by Volusia County that show that this style of bridge impedes the flow of the tides twice a day. We're not getting exchange. Reduced by 50-60% based on their numbers. Not just their numbers, but given this problem of low objection jen it was a -- low oxygen. In 1998 coastal ocean graphic science. They did a zid of every county and every estuary. When they got to Volusia County they said this water body is declining. They continued to say that. In 2010 they said we can expect in the future to seeal -- Al go blums and fish die offs. Which we have. They call it biological stress. They have measures of biological stress. I didn't bring 1500 pages from the seven studies that were done by the EPA. They're all available online if anybody wants me to send them, I will. When we look at these. That's not the way they used to build bridges. If you look at Harper's ferry 150 years ago looked like a bow of a boat. Today the bridge Volusia County is is bulged that bridge will not look like that. It be modern. It will permit the water to flow. There's nothing much that we can do about these older bridges because we're not going to tear them down. But we were very fortunate that we developed a cooperative relationship. With Patel memorial research. They've devised these deflectors they can retrofit on our bridges, specific to our bridge. They are here in Volusia County. They've been in prons inlet for 50 -- Ponce Inlet for 50 years. That's one of the four points of our presentation. Now when EPA finally came to a conclusion and they looked at the RX, we said what do we do about this. Came one five possible directions. One of them was use. Who use it, how often. That has nothing to do with our prez talks. The other four were one data. What we were truly amazed to find out the data doesn't exist. The data for the areas being stressed aren't there. I -- we did and,gen, you're going to have swb who knows more than me about in your opinions talk to you about the St. Johns. At night time there's no sunlight. The plants aren't producing oxygen. That's going to be during the piered period of time in the 24 hours you will have the lowest number. If the numbers get down to strangulation levels, you would like to know. If somebody sucked the air out of your bedroom for five minutes at night, you would certainly want to know about it. The data we have has only been taken during sunlight during the day. The area most impacted and you find the high poxcy at the low objection gin at the shoreline. Two weeks ago we got a 1.8. Any under 21 a disaster -- 2 is a disaster -- even during the daytime we're getting oxygen levels in the middle. Not going to the bottom under 4. Okay. So this is an indication that there's biological stress and indeed that's what the EPA has told us. Further at the bottom, the bottom is where the microbes transform the ammonia into something safe. That is where you must monitor if you want to actually take an intelligent scientific approach to what's going on. Again, we looked at years of St. Johns data and that's not with their monitoring. We've been trying to get to see them since last February on the subject. Last week I was at a luncheon and we were introduced to the new lineup at saint yons and we've been -- new leadership and sate Johns and we've been told they will look at it. We want to look at the bottom. We want to get 24-7 clod cast. During the night as well. So we understand the effect of thaefrng we're doing. I don't want to get scientific. What we're asking for is for you to support the goals that we've identified. Our goals not to do more studies. Not to look at the upstream problems which are ample. Our goals are to attempt now to do something about the problem and to do things to enhance and improve our dirnl prove our water body so it with heal. Monitoring is one. Second is flow. The bridges. When we increase our flow we cut the edge off the slidty speck. When we fwot get solidity you have a situation where animals that do not reproduce. The only thing that loves it is brownalgy. We've already seen that. If it gets really bad, fish die and in the case of something like the red fish which is very much a valuable fish in this area. Every year fisherman come and spend a lot of money. When the water is too salty the eggs float to the top and eaten by birds. Okay they don't rebruise proous that year. A -- reproduce that year and the last thing I will talk about is oxygen exchange. I missed one. Oxygen done in Spain -- oxygen exchange done in Spain and England and Kentucky. Exchange wean -- between stagnant water and -- so nature can heal itself. The other thing we discussed is habitat. That was also EPA. Mustards habitat. If there's --
We're trying to increase the flow. Increase the oxygen through exchange and trying to provide habitat so that creatures can begin to grow again and mother nature can then heal what's already happened. All of these things have been done before. There's nothing new here. Volusia County has installed hundreds of reefs. More successful than any other county in reefs. The exchange has not been done here in Volusia. The bridge dolphins were lucky to have resource such as Patel that will design and build these one-off devices that will bring our bridges into the 21st century and increase the flow in our rivers again. I'm going to turn this over. Henry? This is Henry a research scientists.
He'll introduce himself.
Okay. I'm gone.
State your name for the for the record and position.
Thank you Mr., chairman. I'm Henry pate. I live in port Orange. And have since 1991. I've been working all my adult life some 40 years, god help me, on the quarter. Most of that time has been spent with Patel Memorial Institute. On the right. The atmospheric site. We've been there since before World War II. Patel is a nonprofit founded in 1929. The largest independent organization in the world. We do some six billion in annual sales. We have 22,000 employees and 130 locations worldwide of which seven are national labs that we run for the government throughout the country. Our head quarters in Columbus, Ohio and way down on the list our little facility in Ponce Inlet. We do testing on marine products and material there is. The business is about innovation. That's reason we were founded. We are trying to use science and engineering and create value for our customers. Campless includes multi layer coins you have in your pocket. compact discs and the zero rocks process. Some of our next innovations are actually have to do with -- actually a subject of this presentation. This project seeks tone hans our estuaries. And enhancing real time monitoring so we have a sense of the water ways at the moment. Not rely on the snapshot series of data that we have in the past. Some of what tom was talking about where they're just taking data maybe once a day and during the day. Not raelsz raelsz -- knowing they are on a daily cycle. Ox yen something they're living with. A million part per level. We're at part mer hundreds.
Our waters live at the interface between the bottom and water. If we're not keeping oxygen up. Then essentially losing the water way. [ Captioners transitioning ]
R ESPONSIBLE FOR TITLE ATTENUATION BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND THE INLET. YOU CAN SEE ON THE UPPER GRAPHIC WHAT THE EFFECT OF THAT SQUARE FOOTING IS ON FLOW AND WHEN THE TIDAL FLOW HITS AS IT IS DISBURSED DOWNWARD ON SIDES AND CREATING VORTEXES THAT DAM PEN WHAT DIRECTLY HITS THAT STRUCTURE AND SPREADS FLOW THE OTHER WHICH THAT COUNTERS FLOW THAT WOULD NORMALLY GO THROUGH THE CHANNEL. ALL THAT FLOW ENERGY IS ESSENTIALLY LOST TO OUR ENTIRE TIDAL SYSTEM. WE ARE TRYING TO SMOOTH THAT STRUCTURE -- YOU CAN SEE HOW. MORE SMOOTH THE FLOW IS AROUND THAT SMOOTHED OUT BRIDGE FOOTING AND THAT IS OUR GOAL. AND THE YOU CAN SEE ON THAT UPPER RIGHT GRAPHIC IN FRONT OF THE BRIDGE FOOTINGS, THOSE ARE THE BRIDGE DO. DOLPHINS THAT ARE INSTALLED. THE DEFLECTORS ARE MADE OF GEO FABRIC 60 DEGREES TO THE AMBIENT FLOW AND MADE TO MOVE UP AND DOWN THE TIDAL CURRENT. EACH SIDE IS DESIGNED TO HAVE THE LARGE GAP TO THE BOTTOM SO YOU HAVE EASY MOVE OF FISH AND MAMALS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO TURN THESE DOLPHINS OFF. THERE WOULD BE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU WANT THE BRIDGE TO RESUME ITS DAM PURPOSE AND PULL ANCHOR AND THE BRIDGE RETURNS TO ITS DAM FORMATION. EXCUSE ME. THE SECOND THING WE WILL BE DOING IS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT BOTTOM PICTURE , THAT IS A A PICTURE OF THE CAUSEWAY, THE RELIEF OPENING. WHAT I THINK AS THE MAYOR GREEN RELIEF OPENING ON THE DUNLOTTEN CAUSEWAY. HE FOUGHT FOR. THAT IT IS 800 FEET LONG BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS ALSO FILLED WITH SQUARE PROFILE PILINGS. 336 OF THEM. WHICH DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTION OF FLOW ON AN 800-FOOT LONG. WHAT WE ARE GING TO DO IS ENCASE THOSE WITH PILING SHELLS. THAT ALTERS THAT, THE THIRD THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, IS TO ENHANCE HABITAT THROUGH INSULATION OF A -- AS TOM SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DONE WORLDWIDE. THESE REEF BALLS THAT COMPANY IS EXPLODING. APPLYING THESE REEF BALLS ALL THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND THE WORLD. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THEM IN FLORIDA HUNDREDS IN TAMPA BAY. AS I AM GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND HUNDREDS OF THESE REEF BALLS JUST LIKE THOSE IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO -- AND SO FAR AS I KNOW, ALL THOSE VOLUSIA COUNTY REEFS ARE IN THE SOUTH PART OF OUR ESTUARY. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS ALL IN THESE THROUGHOUT THE ESTUARY AND WE ARE USING IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY AND NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LENGTHY PERMITTING PROCESS AND SURVEYING PROCESS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH INSHORE ARTIFICIAL REEFS WE ARE PLANNING USE DOCKS PUBLIC AND RIGHT. THEY HAVE BEEN SURVEYED AND PERMITTED TO PLACE THESE REEF BALLS OUT OF THE NAVIGATABLE WATERWAYS AND DOCKS. PATEL IS PROPOSING TO BUILD THESE FOR THE ESTUARY AND THE FINAL BUT ACTUALLY THERE WOULD BE THE FIRST THING THAT WE WOULD DO IS TO INSTALL A MONITORING NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE ESTUARY. WITH THE ADDITION OF FLAT PLATE COLLECTORS AT EACH SITE. WE ALSO HAVE A LONG TERM MEASUREMENT OF WHAT THE BIOLOGY IS DOING. NOT JUST SENSORS. IF WE CAN ENHANCE FLOW WILL INSURE THAT THE SAIDMENTS. THEN WE WILL ALSO BE MONITORING CURRENT VELOCITY AND THE DIRECTION OF THOSE CURRENTS, WHICH BESIDES BEING USEFUL FOR WATER MANAGEMENT IS SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE APPLICATION FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY FLOOD PLANNING AS WELL. ALMOST ALL CITIES AND INCLUDING THE COUNTY THIS WILL BE VITAL 24 HOUR DATA FOR THEM. AND THIS PROJECT IN CLOSING IS ABOUT GIVING OUR ESTUARY THE TOOLS SO IT CAN HEAL ITSELF THE MAN FOLDS. DOLPHINS, ARTIFICIAL REEFS ARE PAST THE PROJECTS WHOSE COST AND BENEFITS WILL BE SPREAD OVER DECADES. AND WILL BE ENJOYED BY GENERATIONS VOTERS. AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A NEWBORN PROJECT. JUST BEGUN. WHOSE AND OUR SCIENTIFIC AND AGENCY REVIEW WILL REMAIN TO BE DONE. BUT NONE OF ITS ELEMENTS ARE AS ONE UCF PROFESSOR PUT IT TO ME ALMOST ALL ELEMENTS OF THIS ARE JUST PLAIN COMMON SENSE. IT IS THE PUTTING TOGETHER OF THESE ELEMENTS IN ONE PLACE THAT MAKE IT INNOVATIVE AND POWERFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THIS PROJECT WAS BORN AND BRED IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. I AM HOPING YOU WILL VOTE YES ON THIS RESOLUTION AND ALLOW IT TO GROW FURTHER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST HAND THAT INFORMATION RIGHT OVER TO HER IS. THERE ANY OTHER STAFF REPORT ON THIS MATTER? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL KNOT NOW GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION MR. STEVE KITNER. PLEASE.
THERE ARE MANY, MANY QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED. I HAVE SUPPORTED, AGAIN AND AGAIN SUGGEST ED AGAIN AND AGAIN, GETTING A UNIVERSITY TO DO SOME PEER REVIEW ON. THIS I HAVE TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BASIC CONCEPTS, BASIC PRINCIPLES THAT ARE HERE. I THINK YOU NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK ON THIS. I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED WITH THEMAN FOLDS. I THINK IT IS A LOT MORE THOUGHT DOWN ON HOW THOSE MANI FOLDS WILL WORK. SHE SHARE AS LOT OF MY CONCERNS WITH THIS. I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. ONE THING WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT. IS MAYBE COUNCIL IS NOT AS AWARE OF ALL THE SHORELINE RESTORATION PROJECT IN THIS COUNTY. WE ARE ACTUALLY A LEADER. COME AND GIVE YOU A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL THE RESTORATION PROJECTS DO YOU HAVE GOING ON. YOU FUND. LOTS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF. WATER MONITORING. WEEP HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE LAGOON FOR OVER 30 YEARS. GOT A LOT OF
DATA. INFORMATION ON IT.
SOMEONE HAS TO INTERPRET THOSE LITERALLY BILLION OF DATA POINTS THAT THEY PRODUCE. I AM ENCOURAGING PEER REVIEW. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SCIENCE MORE CAREFUL. SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING. THE WATER MANAGEMENT IS LOOKING IT THAT AS WELL. THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU HAVE GOT. THEY ARE STUDYING THIS. A REPORT COMING IN. CDM SMITH, NEW NAME. WILL BE OUT ON OCTOBER 1st. WHERE THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE CONCEPT OF PUTTING IN THESE CONNECTIONS TO THE NEW CONNECTIONS TO THE LAGOON. THAT'S COMING OUT VERY, VERY SOON. THEY DID LOOK IN THE LAGOON AND DID NOT SEE IT AS BEING A PROJECT THAT NEEDED THIS. IT IS COMING OUT. ONCE THAT IS DONE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT STUDY SHOWS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER STUDY. WE WILL GO OUT AND LOOK AT THIS ON A LONGER RANGE BASIS. REMEMBER, IF YOU, IF YOU BLESS, I AM NOT QUITE SURE AS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE WHAT BLESS ENTAILS. BUT IF YOU BLESS THIS PROJECT. -- BUT IF YOU BLESS THIS PROJECT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A CASH MATCH FOR YOUR GRANT. ARE YOU PREPARED TO MEET THAT, ARE YOU PREPARED TO MEET THAT MATCH. THINK ABOUT THAT AT LEAST. UP ON MY TIME, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME SINCE I RETIRED.
I AM TELLING YOU, STEVE.
THANK YOU, SIR.
OKAY. ANY OTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON THIS MATTER? NOPE. WE WILL TURN OVER TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. WELL, BASICALLY, I WILL START OFF. WHOLE PROJECT IS BASICALLY ALL IT IS NEEDING IS THE NOD TO GO AHEAD. TO MOVE FORWARD. AS I SAID EARLIER TODAY, WE HAVE BEEN TO THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND SAID, PLEASE DO A PEER REVIEW ON THIS. WE DO WANT THE PEER REVIEW. WE WANT THE TECHNICAL REVIEW. I THINK MR. DANIELS, YOU SAID THIS HERE, THAT IF IT GOES THROUGH, IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FOR THEIR PEER REVIEW. SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET THIS THING TO GO THROUGH THERE. BUT EVERY TIME WE TURNAROUND AND WERE GOING SOMEPLACE, THEY WOULD SAY YOU GOT TO TAKE IT TO THE COUNCIL. YOU GOT TO TAKE IT TO THE VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNCIL. THIS IS ALL THAT IS ABOUT TO PLEASE TAKE THIS, GO FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD CALL IT RESOLUTION SUPPORT THERE. IS A RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET. IS THERE NOT MISS MCGEE. GO FORWARD. IT IS JUST THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. HERE IS THE THING. IF THIS GOES THROUGH TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, THEY DO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT. THE WHOM PROJECT WON'T WORK. HEY, THAT IS FINE. WE ARE ALL ABOUT WHATEVER WORKS. IF THIS DOESN'T WORK. LOATHES STAY MANI FOLD IS NOT THE BEST IDEA. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE JUST WANT THE JOB DONE AND GET THE LAGOON CLEANED UP. THAT'S ALL WE ARE HERE FOR. BASICALLY RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT. I THINK THAT'S THE PROPER TERM FOR IT. MR.DANIELS?
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, THE INION RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL AS I SAID BEFORE IS JUST GETTING ORGANIZED. IT IS NOT UP AND RUNNING. WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR NOW DWAYNE DEFREEZE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT I REFER YOU TO DAWN DEFREEZE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HIM. EXPLAIN TO HIM WHAT YOUR PROJECT IS. HE WILL BE ORGANIZING HIS TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, HARPER BRANCH. FLORIDA ATLANTIC. FIT. PROBABLY UF. I AM TRYING TO GET BETHUNE COOKMAN ANASTATESON UNIVERSITY TO BE PART OF THAT. THEY WILL DO THE REVIEW. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SCIENCE. MY DEGREE IS NOT IN SCIENCE. THE THING THAT KEPT ME OUT OF SCIENCE WAS MATH. I WAS THE WORST MAN IN THE WORLD IN MATH. IT WAS GOOD LORD WHAT IS THIS STUFF. THAT'S WHY I BECAME A LAWYER. I COULD NOT DO MATH. KEPT ME OUT OF SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING. KEPT ME OUT OF SOME OTHER THINGS THAT SEEMED TO BE INTERESTING. AND LOOKING AROUND AT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, NONE OF YOU ARE SCIENTISTS. WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. HARD TO GIVE AN ENDORSEMENT. I HAVE HEARD THE IDEA OF DOING THE WATER EXCHANGE WITH THE OCEAN FOR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. NOT FOR MOSQUITO BUT FOR INDIAN RIVER. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY WIND UP GETTING SOMEWHERE, MAYBE NOT MOSQUITO, MAYBE NOT INDIAN RIVER, I DON'T KNOW. WE ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO SAY YES OR NO AND I AM TO THE EXTENT THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO STAY PART OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SOME PROPOSALS THAT THEY SHOULD LOOK AT. THEY BEAR LOOKING AT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR MISS DENYS.
OKAY. I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO SOME DATES HERE. I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. DANIELS SAID. I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL IS IN A POSITION TO BLESS IT, AGREE WITH IT OR DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS STAGE. I WILL TELL YOU WHY. I AM SO STRONG IN THIS POSITION. IS DOING THE SEARCH I THINK YOU GOT YOUR NAME FOR VOLUSIA COUNTY ESTUARY PROJECT OR TRUST IN FEBRUARY OF 2015, RIGHT. MARCH2015 IS WHEN YOU PRESENTED YOUR WHITE PAPER TO JASON DAVIS VOLUSIA COUNTY CHAIR NOT DIRECTER BUT CHAIR. THIS IS VERY ACCURATE. AND THEN ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS, THE NONPROFIT 501C3 WAS ESTABLISHED IN MAY OF 2015. IT HAS ONLY BEEN THREE MONTHS. I, I.
GENTLEMEN. SHES THAT FLOOR.
IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE ON OUR PART TO APPROVE ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED FOR THREE MONTHS IN ORGANIZATION AND I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU PRESENTED TO BEFORE. BUT, WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY. THANK YOU.
THERE IS A MOTION TO DENY.
SECOND.
AND A SECOND.
YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR, MA'AM.
MR. PATTERSON YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. BUT THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NO, SHE WAS AHEAD OF ME. I, YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS TO TAKE NO ACTION. AND THEY TAKE IT FORWARD AND SOMEBODY THAT IS A HELL OF A LOT SMARTER THAN I AM WITH THE SCIENCE. MAYBE THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOME ANSWERS AND WHATEVER. IF THEY, YOU KNOW, I THINK MISS MCGEE MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT THE LAGOON WAS NOT REAL FRIDAY THAT MUCH TROUBLE, CORRECT, OR SOMETHING? WHO WAS IT? THE WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR.
SOMEBODY HAS TO BE ON A MICROPHONE TO SAY THE ANSWER.
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME IMPAIRMENT.
NOT THE SAME IMPAIRMENT. SO. SORRY. DIDN'T MEAN TO PICK ON YOU. BUT SO YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT A DIRE SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO START JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON. IF THE SCIENCE ON THIS PROVES OUT, THEN I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. AT THIS POINT, I JUST NOT WILLING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
MR. WAGNER?
I THINK DOUG, THIS SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS THE IN BETWEEN TO SEND THIS TO THEM AND HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO LOOK AT IT. I THAT I WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED. I THAT I WILL PROBABLY BE THE NEXT STEP THAT MAKES SENSE. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. IF THE MOTION FAILS I WILL SUPPORT THAT ONE. IF IT IS A MOTION, IS THAT A MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD. I KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE TWO MOTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.
I AM NOT REALLY SURE WE NEED A MOTION.
WELL, I HAVE THE ANSWER: MR.ECKERD DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS TO JUST DIRECT THESE PEOPLE TO GO TO WHAT HIS NAME?
THE EXECUTIVE.
THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS DEWAYNE DEFREEZE. IT WOULD WIND UP IN THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. WHICH IS COMPOSED OF A GROUP OF SCIENTISTS THAT WOULD VET THE PROJECT.
THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
THIS IS ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
I ASKED THE QUESTION IF WE JUST NEEDED A MOTION?
CALM DOWN.
WE STUCK WITH THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR.
VERY WELL.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR?
SEEING NONE. OKAY. ALL THOSE LET'S SEE I AM GOING HAVE TO WORD THIS, THE MOTION IS TO DENY MOSQUITO LAGOON WATER QUALITY ENDORSEMENT OF ANY TYPE, AIM CORRECT ON THE MOTION? OKAY. SO STATED THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I.
I.
AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED? HOW MANY ARE OPPOSED?
3.
MR. DANIELS.
I AM OPPOSED, YEAH. AGAIN I WILL BE HAPPY.
ON THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE SIR. FOR THE RECORD.
AGAIN, AS LONG AS WE REMAIN A MEMBER OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL, I WILL BE HAPPY TO BRING THE MATTER UP TO DEWAYNE DEPRESS AND ASK HIM TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND GET DETAILS AND GO FORWARD. AND CHECK IT OUT. RIVER -- REFER IT TO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT THE.
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT?
NO. WE ARE DONE.
POINT OF ORDER MR. CHAIR. WHERE ECKERD KNOWING THAT THE CHAIR IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE BOARD AS A DIRECTOR, CAN HE VOTE ON THIS ISSUE?
YES, MA'AM. IT IS NOT FOR PROFIT BOARD. HE SERVEs WITHOUT COMPENSATION. IT DOESN'T TO HIS PERSONAL GAIN. IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF HE WERE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR SOME OTHER COMPENSATED OF A NOT FOR PROFIT. BUT HE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION. AND IF IT EVER CAME TO THE POINT THAT -- I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS ANY PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE A SERVICE OR GOOD TO THE COUNTY, TO THE COUNTY. AT THAT POINT HE, I SAID TO THE CHAIR THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO RESIGN FROM THE BOARD, AT LEAST UPON THAT HYPOTHETICAL. THERE ARE THERE IS SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE MIGHT CAUSE KNOW CHANGE THAT OPINION. HE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION TODAY. HE COULD HAVE VOTED. I HAVE ALREADY TALKED WITH MR. ECKERD ON THAT MATTER. BELIEVE ME, IF THERE WAS A POINT THAT MR. ECKERD AND I DISCUSSED THAT IT DIME A POINT WHERE IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT, I WOULD SAY NO. I WILL STEP DOWN FROM THAT BOARD AND CONTINUE ON.
BUT THE TEST FOR CONFLICT IS PRIVATE PECUNARY GAIN.
ARE YOU HERE BY REFERRED FORWARD, AND I WOULD SUGGEST, GET AHOLD OF MR. DANIELS. MAKE SURE HE HAS ALL THE DOCUMENTATION NECESSARY.
WAS THE MOTION APPROVED OR DISAPPROVED.
NO; NO. YOU ARE HERE BY HAVE A SEAT ONE MOMENT. LET ME EXPLAIN THIS THERE. WAS A MOTION MADE TO DENY. THAT FAILED. SO WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MR. CHAIR.
THE MOTION TO DENY AND THE ENDORSEMENT PASSED.
NO IT WAS A 3, 4.
1, 2, 3, 4 WERE AGAINST.
MR. DANIELS.
I WAS IN FAVOR OF DENIAL.
OH OKAY. I AM SORRY.
MR. DANIELS VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY BUT SAID IT AS A MEMBER AS A COUNCIL'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE COUNCIL THAT HE WOULD FACILITATE THE INTRODUCTION.
THAT'S FINE, TOO.
FOR THE RECORD.
MAKE SURE THAT HE GETS ALL OF HIS INFORMATION.
I HAVE KNOWN HEN RAY LONG TIME.
FOR THE RECORD, CAN WE SAY WHO WAS OPPOSED?
OPPOSED TO THAT MOTION WAS MISS CUSACK, MR. WAGNER, MR. DAVIS. I AM SORRY I THOUGHT MR. DANIELS. I SAID ARE YOU OPPOSED. HE SAID YES.
I APOLOGIZE.
MY MISTAKE. WE GOT IT CLEAR.
FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR ME, THIS IN NO WAY IMPLIES THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS ENDORSED OR SUPPORTS THIS.
NO, NO.
I THINK ESSENTIALLY COUNCIL IS TAKING NO POSITION. YOU HAVE DENIED ENDORSEMENT AND MR. DANIELS IS FACILITATING AN INTRODUCTION AND COUNCIL CAN TAKE WHAT ACTION IT THINKS IS FIT. YOU WILL GET WITH MR. DANIELS. HE IS GOING TO MAKE INTRODUCTION TO MR. DUPREE OR DUPUSE.
DUPREE.
OKAY. THANK YOU.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 45 WHICH IS APPOINTMENT OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY POET TO FOUR YEAR TERM. AND THE NOMINATION CAN BE MADE BY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER. MR.PATTERSON.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MRS. ZIMMERMAN.
MARCY.
I AM SORRY.
ON THESE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS, WERE THERE BACKGROUND CHECKS DONE ON THEM?
UH-HUH (AFFIRMATIVE).
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THESE DID NOT COME THROUGH ME. I AM UNAWARE. I DO NOT KNOW.
I THOUGHT THEY DID.
MR. BAILY, DO YOU KNOW?
I THOUGHT THEY DID. I THOUGHT WE HAD THREE MEMBERS ON A COMMITTEE THAT WERE BRINGING US BACK THESE TWO.
TIM BAILEY VOLUSIA COUNTY PARK. BACKGROUND CHECKS WERE NOT DONE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. WE WOULD DO BACKGROUND CHECKS IF NECESSARY. BUT WE, THIS IS POETLAUREATE.
THEY QUALIFIED PEOPLE. I JUST DON'T WANT SOMETHING TO COME UP.
WHOEVER.
IT WOULD BE KIND OF EMBARASSING.
YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION I GUESS FROM THAT COMMITTEE. YOU REQUIRED THEM TO BRING FORWARD. THEY DID RECOMMEND ONE OF THE PEOPLE.
TWO.
THEY BROUGHT FORWARD TWO. THEY ACTUALLY RANKED THEM ONE, TWO. SO THIS WAS A CLARIFICATION THAT I JUST FOUND OUT, THAT THE COMMITTEE RANKED THEM ONE AND 2B AX ELEROD WAS RATED ONE. THAT MAY HELP YOU IN YOUR DECISION. IF YOU SELECT ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE, THEN WE WILL MAKE THE BACKGROUND CHECK IS DONE.
WELL, I DID NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION AS TO THE ONE AND THE TWO.
WE JUST FOUND IN OUT.
IN I MEAN, IT SEEMS KIND OF RIDICULOUS TO DO A ONE AND A TWO AND SAY OH, PICK ONE. I MEAN. I READ ALL THE INFORMATION ON THEM AND EVERYTHING. I EVEN WENT ON TO YOUTUBE AND SAW BOTH OF THEM RECITING POETRY OR WHATEVER THEY CALLED IT AND CAME OUT WITH THE FEELING ON ONE OF THEM THAT I THOUGHT WAS THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE CHOSEN.
MY UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS WHAT I JUST FOUND OUT , THAT THE GROUP DECIDED ONE, TWO. BUT IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN WE REQUIRED THEM AT LEAST BY COUNCIL ACTION TO BRING FORWARD TWO CANDIDATES.
MY NOMINATION IS FOR MB MCCLATCHIE.
DO YOU WANT TO.
WHERE DID MY COUNCIL MEMBERS GO? WHERE IS DOUG AND DEB? ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. WE GOT ENOUGH.
I THINK THEY HAD AX ELEROD AS NUMBER 1.
HE WAS NUMBER 1. STILL MY.
I THINK COUNCIL MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.
WE RECOMMEND TWO.
THE MOTION IS FOR MB MCCLATCHIE TO BE APPOINTED TO VOLUSIA COUNTY BY MR. PATTERSON. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
I.
THEN ARE YOU.
I DIDN'T VOTE ON EITHER.
SO IT IS A TIE.
I WAS WAITING FOR THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE TO GET BACK. THIS IS FOUR YEARS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. I.
ON A POETLAUREAT.
MR. CHAIR I THINK AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF THEY WERE RANKED ONE AND TWO, THEN WHY THEN IS NECESSARY FOR US TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN IT HAS BEEN RANKED ONE AND TWO.
TWO.
AND SO IT IS JUST TWO PEOPLE. BOTH ARE WELL QUALIFIED. HOWEVER, WHEN DO YOU ALL OF THE READING AND ALL THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE A DECISION, THE COMMITTEE, DID THEY MAKE A DECISION THAT WE WOULD RANK THEM ONE AND TWO? HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? MY PAPERWORK INDICATED HAD YOU TWO VIABLE CANDIDATES THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDING BY THE COMMITTEE. NOW I HEAR THEY ARE RANKED ONE AND TWO.
AS A MATTER OF THE RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THE REQUIREMENT IS TO BRING FORT TWO RECOMMENDED CANDIDATES FOR COUNCIL TO DELIBERATE ON PICKING ONE. SO WHAT THE SELECTION COMMITTEE DID WAS THEY SELECTED DR. DAVID AXELROD. AND MB MCCLATCHIE. SO FOR THE RESOLUTION TWO CANDIDATES WERE PUT FORWARD.
OKAY. WE DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? OKAY.
I HAVE THE FLOOR, I GUESS.
YOU INDUSTRIAL THE FLOOR.
THIS HAS BECOME RIDICULOUS.
NO. WE VOTED. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. L DANIELS WILL HAVE THE FLOOR.
SO YOU VOTED AGAINST SOMEONE ALREADY?
YEAH.
YOU GUYS WERE OUT IN THE OFFICE.
I WAS GOING NOMINATE T AXELROD.
OKAY HOW ABOUT THIS. I AM HAVING AN IDEA. WHY DON'T WE IN FAVOR OF AXELROD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MCCLATCHIE. WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU WHETHER PATTERSON?
CAN WE JUST HAVE BOTH ONE MALE AND ONE FEMALE. IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR ONE.
HERE IS WHAT IS WILD ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS PERSON IS GOING DO.
READ POEMS.
THAT'S IT?
AND BESIDES THAT I AM THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE ON THERE.
YES.
WELL HE TOLD ME A LYMRIC.
SO THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT IT IS ONE OR TWO OF THEM. WE COULD HAVE.
IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR PROCEDURE.
I WOULD BE FOR THAT.
LET'S DO THAT.
WELL YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE A PRIMARY AND A SECONDARY.
NO LET'S JUST KEEP BOTH OF THEM.
ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE.
JUST ADD AN S.
IS THAT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO HAVE TWO.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE AND APPOINT TWO INDIVIDUALS FOR A TERM OF FOUR YEARS AND SUBJECT TO ANOTHER FOUR YEAR TERM AFTER THAT. THAT'S IN THE.
THAT'S IN THE THING.
OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPOINT VOLUSIA COUNTY POETLAURET TO A FOUR YEAR TERM AMOUNT SECOND BY MR. LOWRY.
DOES SOMEONE WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT --
OH YES. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. AXELROD WANTS TO SPEAK ON HIS OWN BEHALF BEHALF.
WE HAVE NEVER MET. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK, SIR?
IF I MAY.
OKAY. WE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR THREE MINUTES.
YOU GAVE US A POEM. LUCKILY NOT A POEM. I AM DR. DAVID AXELROD. IN DAYTONA BEACH.
MA'AM, CAN YOU, OKAY YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES SIR.
GO AHEAD.
I AM DR. DAVID AXELROD DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA I HAD PREPARED BRIEF SHEET TO SPEAK TO THE SUBJECT RATHER LIGHT HEARTEDLY. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT MY COLLEAGUE PROFESSOR MCCLATCHIE. I ADMIRE HER CREDENTIALS. I DON'T LIKE PETARY AS A COMPETITION. I AM NOT SURE SHE IS LISTED TO SPEAK. I WILL SAY GOVERNOR MARIO CUOMO SAID THAT LEGISLATORS CAMPAIGN IN POETRY BUT SPEAK IN PROSE. I HAVE DONE MANY PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I HAVE HOPED WOULD RECOMMEND AS A DEDICATED COUNTY AND PUBLIC SERVANT. I HAVE FOUR ADVANCED DEGREES AND A PUBLISHED 21 BOOKS. I HAVE PUT IN RATHER LIGHT HEARTEDLY THAT BOTH OF MY CARS HAVE LICENSE PLATES THAT SAY BOTH POEMS AND POETRY. I HAVE THREE FULL BRIGHT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. I HAVE SERVED ALSO IN LIVING IN NEW YORK AS THE SUFFOLK COUNTY 40 YEARS AND 40 YEAR COLLEGE CREATIVE WRITING TEACHER. THE PURPOSE OF BEING A LAUREATE IS TO ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUAL EXPRESSION, LITCY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WORKING PRO BONO. BUT I AM VERY GOOD AT FUND RAISING FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS. I WANT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE PUBLISHED A BOOK CALLED THE SPEED WAY. COVER IS ON THE BACK. AND NASCAR IS CERTIFIED IT IS THE ONLY BOOK OF PROTEURIA ENTIRELY ABOUT NASCAR. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT I AM GOING TO TAKE LESSONS TO REDUCE MY NEW ENGLAND ACCENT SO I CAN SAY NASCAR PROPERLY AS A SOUTHERNER. BUT IF I AM APPOINTED, SINGLY OR AS A JOINT POST I WOULD PROMISE TO WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF VOLUSIA COUNTY. I KNOW THE RESOLUTION WAS INITIALLY THAT YOU APPOINT ONE. I AM SORRY IT HAS DOCK A COMPETITION. UP ABOUT THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY CASE.
WELL, IT MAY HAVE STARTED OUT AS A COMPETITION SIR. BUT NOW I THINK SATURDAY PARTNERSHIP. I THINK YOU KNOW, HEY, THERE MAY COMPANY A TIME WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING GOING WHERE WE MAY NEED A POET. ALTHOUGH. WHAT THAT MAY BE ESCAPES ME. I HAVE NO IDEA WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. ANYWAY. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO BE TO APPOINT DR. DAVID AX EEL ROD AND MB, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I.
I.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SO CARRIED. 6,1. CONGRATULATIONS FOLKS.
ACTUALLY.
6, 0.
MISS DEN ANYS IS GONE.
I NEED TO WE NEED TO TAKE A I REALLY NEED TO TAKE 10 MINUTES. GOING TAKE A 10 MINUTES RECREST. WHERE MANAGER I NEED TO SPEAK WITH YOU IN THE BACK. CHAMBERS COULD PLEASE COME TO ORDER. WE HAVE A FEW MORE ITEMS OF BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF TODAY. WE HAVE DONE ITEM 45. 46 IS APPOINTMENT TO HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. CURRENTLY HOLDING OFFICE HIS OR HER REPRESENTATIVE. THIS IS FIVE POSITIONS FOR TWO YEAR TERM COMMENCING OCTOBER 1st, 2015 AND EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 30th, 2017. MR.PATTERSON I HAND YOU THE GAVEL AND START OFF MY NOMINATION OF MARGERY JOHNSON.
TO HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY. MARGERY JOHNSON ANY OBJECTION. WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU, SIR. RECEIVED.
I NEED FOUR MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW MANY WE GOT?
IF IT CAN BE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A REPRESENTATIVE.
YOU MAY WANT TO MENTION, WE GOT SO BUSY.
YES. MISS DENYS HAD TO LEAVE.
FAMILY MATTER.
WE WILL MOVE TO RIGHT MR. DANIEL DOSE YOU WISH TO MAKE A NOMINATION.
I DO NOT.
MR. LOWRY?
NO.
SUSAN CLARK HAS BEEN NOMINATED BY MR. LOWRY.
SIGNIFY BY I.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SO CARRIED. MR.PATTERSON DO YOU HAVE A NOMINEE?
DR. MYRON P PO P PLAR.
I FORGET MY.
POTLER.
FOOT LETTER.
DR. HAS BEEN NOMINATED BY MR. PATTER SON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SO CARRIED.
MR. WAGNER DID YOU THINK OF ANYBODY ELSE?
NO.
OKAY.
MISS CUSACK?
YES, L CHAIR. I WOULD NOMINATE SUSAN CLARK.
SHE HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
SUSAN CLARK, DR. FOTLER AND MARGERY JOHNSON HAVE BEEN NOMINATED AND APPOINTED.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE.
VERY WELL THOSE THREE SHALL RECEIVE. I HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FROM MR. WAGNER DO I HERE A SECOND.
SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SO CARRIED. ITEM 46A. I ONCE AGAIN PASS THE GAVEL. THIS IS MY APPOINTMENT.
MR. CHAIR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED BY FOR A NOMINATION.
I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MISS RUBY. I AM NOMINATING DONNA PAY THE RUBY.
ANOMINATION OF DONNA PAY THE RUBY TO SOUTHEAST VOLUSIA ADVERTISING AUTHORITY.
THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE NOW CONCLUDED THE BUSINESS OF THE VOLUSIA COUNTY COUNCIL ARE. THERE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SLIPS, MADAM.
NO, SIR.
WE WILL MOVE PAST AND GO TO CLOSING COUNTY COUNCIL COMMENTS. WHERE DENINE WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY THAT STATEMENT AGAIN ABOUT MISS DENYS.
SHE HAD A FAMILY ISSUE. SHE HAD TO LEAVE. SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING. WE GOT SO INVOLVED I FORGOT TO TELL THE CHAIR THAT SHE HAD LEFT.
SO DULY NOTED FOR RECORD. I HOPE EVERYTHING TURNS OUT WELL AT THE HOME. WE ARE GOING TO GO NOW, WITH LOWRY CLOSING COMMENTS.
I HAVE NONE.
MR. PATTER SON.
YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT TODAY.
MOTION AFTER MOTION. IT IS GOOD TO HEAR YOU EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. BUT I AM GETTING THE GLARE. MOVING ON.
NO, NO. THE ONLY THING IS I NOTICED THE FORM SIXES THAT EVERYBODY FILED THERE. IS A TINY LITTLE BOX ON THERE THAT I NOTICED. I BROUGHT THIS UP. YOU TO CHECK THAT BOX LETTING EVER EVERYBODY KNOW HAD YOU MET YOUR ETHICS TRAINING. I DON'T KNOW. SOME OF YOU MIGHT NEED TO GO ON AND LOOK AT YOUR FORM SIX TO MAKE SURE YOU DID. IF NOT YOU NEED DO AN AMENDMENT TO IT. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HIT WITH AN ETHICS VIOLATION ON THAT. SO THAT IS JUST MY LITTLE WORDS TO THE WISE OF THE DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM DONE.
ARE YOU SUCH A WISE SOUL. I GOT THE SAME MEMO. I IMMEDIATELY PULLED THE FILE AND SAID I AM GOOD. I AM GOLDEN. ALL RIGHT. MR.WAGNER, CLOSING COMMENTS SIR?
NONE.
OKAY.
MISS CUSACK?
HERE WE GO.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I AM TAKING JOSH'S TIME AND MINE.
WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. WHEN DID WE BECOME THE UNITED STATES REPRESENTATIVES. DEFERRING TIME.
I AM GOING TO FIRST SPEAK ABOUT MR. DAVENPORT'S CONCERN TODAY. IS IS THERE ANY INFORMATION AVAILABLE? I KNOW MR. DAVENPORT HAS MET WITH STAFF. COULD WE HAVE A LITTLE INVOICE AS TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT SITUATION?
THIS IS ON THE?
THIS IS ON THE FLOODING. MR.CLARENCE DAVENPORT'S HOME.
JOHN AND JULIE, OPEN CLAIMS STILL BEEN FILED WITH RISK MANAGEMENT AND IS BEING INVESTIGATED STILL BY TOM MOATS OR CHARLES SPENCER AS TO HIS CLAIM. STORM WATER ENGINEER HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN RESEARCHING SOME OF THE CLAIMS. SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT INDICATED THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WAS REVISED. WE HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE THOSE THINGS. WE COULD NOT FIND ANY ENGINEERING WHETHER WITH THE CITY OR COUNTY AS TO WHAT MAY HAVE TRANSPIRED. THERE THERE WAS AN INDEPENDENT ENGINEER BROUGHT IN TO CONSULT TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE PIPING NETWORK THAT IS THERE WAS CERTAINLY CANE -- CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE WATER FLOW. THERE WAS ONE INLET ON MR. DAVENPORT'S SIDE. THESE THINGS ARE STILL BEING INVESTIGATED. I CAN'T SPEAK CONCLUSIVELY AS TO THE FINDINGS AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU. I WAS THERE AT THEIR HOME. HAD IT NOT RAINED TO THAT EXTENT THE DAY THAT I WAS THERE. THERE WAS STILL WATER IN THE STREET AND I THINK THAT IT CERTAINLY DOES INDICATE THAT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED THERE. THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM APPARENTLY DID NOT TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT IT NEEDED TO AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU. THAT IS THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. MY SECOND CONCERN IS THAT YOU KNOW THERE IS A CRE IN SPRING NILL THE AREA WHERE MR. DAVENPORT LIVES. THAT CRA HAS PROBABLY BEEN IN EXISTENCE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 10 YEARS OR BETTER. AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO DATE IS THAT WE HAVE A RESOURCE CENTER THAT DOES A LOT OF OUTREACH FOR PEOPLE IN THE SPRING HILL COMMUNITY. AND 60% OF THE RESIDENTS THERE IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF VOLUSIA COUNTY. 40% IN THE CITY OF DELAND. NOW, THIS CRA WITH THE GOAL WAS I SERVED AT THAT TIME ON THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING. IT WAS ADVISORY FORWARD THE CITY OF DELAND. SOME OF THE FUNDS APPROPRIATED WERE APPROPRIATED TO HELP TO TRY TO SIMULATE THE ECONOMY IN THE SPRING HILL AREA. BASED ON THE FACT THAT FEDERALLY THEY HAD DONE SOME WEED AND SEED PROGRAM THERE IS. SUPPOSED TO WEED OUT. THIS WAS THE BOOMING AREA FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE LAND BACK HAD THE 40s, 50s, MAYBE 30s. ALL MINORITY BUSINESSES WERE IN THAT AREA. I WOULD SAY 80%. SOME WERE ON THE AREAS OF VOORHEES CALLED WRIGHTS CORNER. THEY HAVE -- LIKE THE WRIGHT CORNER AND THEN THE SPRING HILL AREA, AND NOW, IT IS RESIDENTIAL AND THEY HAVE THAT RESOURCE CENTER. IT IS TRYING TO HELP REHAB AND GET FOLK BACK TO WORK. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST POOREST AREAS IN VOLUSIA COUNTY. I KNEE THE CRA IS NOT A TRADITIONAL CRA AS WE SEE THAT TODAY. BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS JUST WHEN I WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE WE HAD SOME WATER PROJECTS GOING. WE WERE ABLE TO GET FUNDING FOR SPRING HILL AREA TO PUT IN SOME INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT SPRING HILL AREA. SOME OF THAT FUNDING IS 140,000 DOLLARS LEFT IN THE CRA SLASH CITY COUNCIL COULD HAVERS. THEY HAVE BEEN USING THAT FOR OPERATION, IF YOU WILL, OF THE SPRING HILL RESOURCE CENTER. NOW BEAR IN MIND. FOLKS GO FOR HELP IN THE COMPUTERS AND THEY GO THERE FOR JOB APPLICATIONS. THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP SUSTAIN THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. SO MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO BEGAN TO SEED IF YOU WILL THE AREA, ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT IS JUST NOT, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO, IF TO HAVE SOME DIALOGUE THE CITY AND THIS, AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL, WITH STAFF INPUT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO BEGIN TO REALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THIS NONTRADITIONAL CR THAT IS SO MUCH NEEDED IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I THAT I IF WE COULD HAVE A POSSIBLE VISION SESSION, WHERE ARE WE GOING AND HOW CAN WE GET THERE AS A COUNTY AND AS A CITY, TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND TO HELP THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN PEOPLE AND ESTABLISH BEGIN GROW THE AREA SO THAT WE COULD ONE DAY MAYBE COT BECOME AN AREA THAT IS NOT ONLY WEEDED OUT BUT WE HAVE PLANTED SOME SEEDS THAT IT CAN DEVELOP AND GROW AGAIN. I NEED FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO JUST HEAR THIS AND TRY TO HELP MAKE SOME DECISIONS. I KNOW THAT MR. CHAIR, THAT YOU RESPONSE TO MR. PATTERSON AND IN HIS DISTRICT ALSO. I GREW UP THERE. IT IS IN A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL AND THE AT LARGE MEMBER, I THINK WE HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. AT A BUDGET OF 72,000 DOLLARS A YEAR IN A YEAR'S TIME, THERE WILL BE NO FUND FORCE THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THAT BEFORE THAT TIME COME. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MR. DENINE IF YOU CAN KIND OF ADDRESS. I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH HIM. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
THANK YOU MISS CUSACK. SHE AND I TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUE. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAKE THIS DIFFERENT. PECULIAR IN A SENSE THAT IT IS UNIQUE IT IS THE ONLY CRA WE HAVE WHICH FIT THE GUIDELINES OF SLUM AND BLIGHT. IT REAL I HAVE THE ONLY ONE THAT INCLUDED UNINCORPORATED AREA. AND I AM NOT SURE IF WE WOULD EVER DO ONE LIKE -- LIKE THAT AGAIN. IT HAPPENED. SO WE EACH HAVE A SHARE OF THIS. 60, 40 IS WHAT JOYCE SAID. WE COULD, IT IS UNFORTUNATE, THIS IS ONE BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY THERE IS NO MONEY OR NOT SUF TO PROBABLY REALLY ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. I THINK THERE ARE ISSUES ABOUT THE ONGOING ISSUES WITH THE RESOURCE CENTER. I WOULD SUGGEST, IF WOULD YOU LIKE, IS I THINK IF THE COUNCIL FOCUSES ON THIS AS A UNIQUE SITUATION, THIS IS NOT TO OPEN THE DOOR TO EVERY CRA, CAMPAIGN MONEY OR WHATEVER. THIS IS THE ONLY ONE WHERE WE HAVE INCORPORATED TERRITORY. I THINK BECAUSE IT IS UNIQUE AND THE ONE THAT FIT THAT SLUM AND BLIGHT GUIDELINE, WE COULD LOOK AT HAVING A DISCUSSION BETWEEN COUNTY STAFF AND CITY STAFF, JUST ON WHAT THE VISION IS, WHAT IDEAS ARE OUT THERE. WHAT THOUGHTS ARE OUT THERE. AND THEN MAYBE AT SOME LATER TIME WE COULD BRING SOMETHING FORWARD WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN US AND THE CITY. BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT ALSO WOULD MAKES US UNIQUE IS IF THERE IS ANY SOLUTION. THIS WOULD NOT BE A SOLUTION UNDER THE CRA LANGUAGE. IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS VERY PARTICULAR TO THIS, SO WE DON'T BLEED OFF. PEOPLE THINK WE HAVE SOME NEW PROGRAM. WE DON'T. IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE REALITIES OF THIS UNIQUE CRA, WE COULD THEN TALK TO THE CITY. AS LONG AS THE CITY WOULD STICK WITH US, AND AS LONG AS THE CITY WOULD BE A PARTNER IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHAT PERCENTAGE IS IN THE CITY, THEN MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BELIEVES IT NEEDS AND WHAT IT WANTS TOGETHER WITH WHAT THE CITY IS WILLING HOW THEY ARE WILLING TO DEAL WITH IT. WE WOULD COME UP WITH A MENU OF IDEAS. WE COULD TALK TO THE COUNCIL. THEY COULD TALK TO THE CITY. WE COULD DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO MEET. IT WON'T WORK UNDER THE CRA LEGISLATION WE HAVE TODAY. WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING WITH OTHER CRAS. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, DO WE AT LEAST CONSIDER ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE THIS AREA REALLY IS REALLY DOES HAVE ISSUES. AND SO -- HERE IS THE POINT. WE ARE NOT ALONE. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE CITY ALSO. MAYBE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US IF THAT HELPS I THINK THAT IS A JUMPING OFF POINT.
I THINK IT IS ALSO. I WILL CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY INPUT OR DOLLAR WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER, TO SEE IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS BE A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE TO HELP THE LEAST OF THESE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
MR. CHAIR?
YEAH. I SIT ON THE, THAT CRA BOARD WITH JOYCE. I KNOW THAT THE A REVENUE THAT THEY HAVE HAD FROM GRANT MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS DRIED UP. AND OF COURSE, THE CRA IS NOT GENERATING ANY REVENUE AT ALL. I WONDER IF THERE IS A REASON TO KEEP IT IN EXISTENCE. IF IT IS NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT. I AM NOT SAYING I WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY JUMP UP AND SAY WE WANT TO KEEP THAT CRA. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND TRY TO HELP THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION. AND AT ONE POINT, I WAS JOYCE WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING. CITY WAS ASKING ME TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY. MAKE A REQUEST FOR A LARGE SUM OF MONEY. I SAID, THAT IS JUST NOT GOING TO WORK, YOU KNOW. SO WE HAVE REALLY GOT TO GET CREATIVE ON THIS. SO I WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HELP OUT IN ANYWAY. OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
IF I CAN GET SORT OF A NOD FROM THE COUNCIL. THAT IS A DIRECTION THEY WANT ME TO GO IN. WHICH IS TO GET CITY STAFF TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY. TRY TO GET SOME FEEL FOR A VISION. I DON'T NEED A MOTION OR ANYTHING. IF EVERYONE FEELS WE SHOULD TRY THAT I CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND REPORT BACK. I WILL TELL YOU I THINK THE MAIN PREMISE OF THAT IS THE CITY HAS TO BE ENGAGED AND BE AS RESPONSIBLE AS THEIR PERCENTAGE THAT IS IN THE CITY. THAT TO ME IS THE FUNDAMENTAL.
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT TOO.
I CAN DO IT.
COOL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU MISS CUSACK.
MR. DANIELS?
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED ON THE SEPTIC TANK ISSUE AND TO GET OURSELVES ST. JOHNS. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT COMING UP WITH 30% OF THE COST OF INSTALLING SEPTIC TANKS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. AND ALL OVER THE COUNTY. AND IF WE COULD GET THAT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE BEGINNINGS OF DOING SOMETHING FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SEPTIC TANKS. I PARTICULARLY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN OAK HILL TO BLUE SPRINGS AND THE NORTH PENINSULA. AND PERHAPS WORK WITH THE CITY OF ORMOND BEACH AND EXTENDS TO THE CITY OF ORMOND BEACH. IT NEEDS TO HAVE THAT. IS TAX RATES WOULD BE LOWER. WATER RATES LOWER. AND THEY ARE IN A BETTER POSITION TO DO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE NORTH -- HE IS PERFECT WILLING TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT. HE AND I CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER FINE. AND TO YOU KNOW KIND OF PUSH THAT THING FORWARD. BUT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AND PAY DIVIDENDS IN THE LONG RUN. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT GOING.
OKAY. WHERE DANIELS, WE DISCUSSED IN AS I THINK ALSO WITH THE ST. JOHN'S REPRESENTATIVES, THIS IS BEYOND PROJECTS. WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM. THIS COUNTY NEEDS A PROGRAM.
INDEED.
FOR SEPTIC TANK ELIMINATION.
THE ENTIRE COUNTY BUYS INTO.
YES. THAT REALLY STRUCTURES A FUNDING FORMULA FOR STATE SUPPORT AND THAT ALLOWS LOCAL SUPPORT TO BE DEVELOPED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IT IS THE IDEA THAT ANY OF THE EXISTING SEPTIC FUNDING MECHANISMS WILL DO THE TRICK IS NOT REALISTIC. NOT ON THE SCALE OF WHAT WE HAVE. AND SO WHAT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT ON, OUR GRANT CONSULTANT IS PUTTING TOGETHER A PROPOSAL THAT PROVIDES THAT FUNDING STRUCTURE THAT WE CAN THEN SHARE WITH OUR STATE AGENCIES AND OUR LOBBYING GROUP AND START DRAWING UP REGARDLESS OF DIFFERENT AREAS. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PRIORITY AREAS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EVERY SEPTIC TANK. I THINK WE NEED THE STATE COMMITMENT TO THIS KIND OF FUNDING IN ORDER TO SECURE THE LOCAL COMMITMENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THEY WILL BE FINISHED WITH THAT OR HAVING SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SHOW. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW IT TO THE MAYOR'S GROUP?
I AGREE. I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO. CONSULTANT HAS STARTED WORKING OFF THE INFORMATION WE HAD DEVELOPED. WE HAVE STAFF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING THE PRIORITY AREAS AND PROJECTS THAT CAN HAPPEN. I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR CITIES TO BE TAKEN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN TERMS OF FUNDING WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THERE IS A PROGRAM ON THE STATE SIDE, THAT THEY ARE LEVERAGING AGAINST.
OKAY. AND INDEED I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT. AND ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO, WELL, PARTICULARLY WITH ORMOND BEACH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW I DO THINK THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR IS MY OH UPON THEN IN IN THE UPCOMING, HE AND I AND I GET ALONG VERY WELL.
WE HAVE THE OUTLINE OF AN AGREEMENT TO ESTABLISH A REBATE SYSTEM. AS AN INCENTIVE BASE. HOPING THAT THAT WILL HELP ENCOURAGE SOME OF THE UNITS ALONG A1A TO CONNECT INTO THAT FORCED MAIN.
OKAY WELL THANK YOU MARY ANNE. I AM DONE.
THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. THERE WE GO. THANKING EVERYBODY FOR LISTENING TO THE WATER DISCUSSION TODAY. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT HELP. ACTUALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DID ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING. I AM PLEASED WITH THAT. OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T HAVE MUCH GOING ON HERE SO YES MR. ECKERD YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO AS A MATTER OF INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL, I HAVE THE COUNTY HAS RECEIVED ITS ESTIMATE FOR THE JUVENILE SECURE DETENTION COST FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND BILLS FOR JULY AND AUGUST AND IN THIS CASEY RECOMMEND TODD THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT WE NOT MAKE ANY PAYMENT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. STATE FISCAL YEAR WHICH BEGAN JULY 1. THE STATE HAS A PROVISION WHEREIN SOME RESPECTS YOU COULD LOOK IT THAT AS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE. THE STATE APPROPRIATIONS BILL. IMPLEMENTATION BILL, PROVIDES THAT THE STATE COULD HOLD THOSE FUNDS BACK FROM OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE OWED TO THE COUNTY. SO THOSE, IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PAID, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM. BUT I THINK IT PROVIDES, OUR POSITION, WE HAVE A POSITION PEND MING THE FIRST DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL AND PROVISION -- WE INDUSTRIAL A APPEAL PENDING OF THE RULE CHALLENGE. SO IT, AT THIS POINT, I THINK THERE IS SOUND LEGAL BASES TO SAY THAT WE OUGHT NOT TO REMIT BUT THE STATE IS GOING TO COLLECT IT ANYWAY. I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE BEFORE YOU HAD YOUR SESSION WITH THE LEGISLATURE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO IT IS REALLY IS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE HOW TO MONEY WILL BE PAID. STATE WILL HOLD IT BACK IN DUE COURSE.
ALL RIGHT.
WHILE I HAVE YOU, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US HOW THE APPEAL FOR THE -- VOLUSIA VOTE CASE. COUNTY'S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IS PENDING. IT IS SET FOR HEARING ON MONDAY,IBLE, IT IS SEPTEMBER 14th. IF THAT IS A MONDAY. FOR 90 MINUTES BEFORE JUDGE SANDRA UPCHURCH. AND THE IN THE CASE FILED BY THE SONS OF THE BEACHES, COUNTY HAS MOTION TO DISMISS PENDING THAT IS TO BE HEARD BEFORE JUDGE SONBRATO ON SEPTEMBER 2. ALTHOUGH THAT WAS A LATER FILED CASE, HAD IT TO DO WITH THE SCHEDULES OF THE LAWYERS AND AVAILABILITY OF THE COURT OF HEARING WILL TAKE THE COURT AND THE A HEARING TIME WE REQUESTED IN FRONT OF JUDGE UPCHURCH. AS WELL AS TRIAL DOCKETS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF JUDGE UPCHURCH HAS ANY LEAVE. THERE WAS A THREE WEEK PERIOD AFTER WHEN MR. BEAR SAID HE WAS AVAILABLE THAT THE CAN JUDGE HAD NO HEARING TIME. PARTLY AT LEAST IN PART IF NOT IN TOTAL BECAUSE OF A TRIAL DOCKET. THAT'S THE FIRST AVAILABLE HEARING TIME.
DAN, HAVE YOU GOT ACROSS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT THAT CASE?
NO, SIR.
WHEN IS THEIR LAST DATE TO FILE ON?
WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FILE, THEY SHOULD FILE 20 DAYS IN ADVANCE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S IF THEY WANTED TO CALL IT UP ON THE SAME DATE.
I AM SURE THEY WOULD.
BUT WE HAVE NOT, THEY HAVE NOT SERVED ANY CROSS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT.
THEIR TIME IS RUNNING OUT, ISN'T IT. IT IS GETTING KIND OF CLOSE.
YES, SIR.
OKAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST ASK THAT BECAUSE I GOT AN E-MAIL. IT IS ALMOST LIKE A TIME DELAY ON THIS ISSUE, JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS A. GO I WAS LIKE, OKAY. I WANTED TO KNOW WHERE WE WERE. MR.DENINE.
I JUST A WANTED TO INDICATE, COUNCIL HAD BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE IN SCHEDULING THE HEARING TIME. IT IS WHEN THE COURT WAS AVAILABLE.
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY SIR?
DARN. ALL RIGHT. SIR MAKE IT BRIEF.
IN THE CASE OF MR. DANIELS HAD ASKED US BEFORE, IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THOSE STRATEGIC PIECES ON THE BEACH THAT ARE LEFT THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO TRY AND SEE IF WE CAN SECURE. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MONEY SET AID SIDE FOR THIS. SO I WILL BE LOOKING AT WHICH ONES I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD STILL TRY TO ACQUIRE. AND THEN I WILL LOOK AT A WAY TO PAY FOR. THAT I WILL BE LETTING THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT SHORTLY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE LONGER RUN WE WANT TO BUY SOMETHING. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE WINDOW RIGHT NOW. NUMBER 2, AS YOU HEARD ME ANNOUNCE TO THE CHAMBERS, ON AUGUST 26th, THE MANAGERS GROUP, CITY MANAGERS GROUP ARE GOING TO MEET. I HAVE GOTTEN THEM TO ALL MEET AT LUNCHTIME WITH THE CHAMBER, WHO ACTUALLY SELECTED 10 PEOPLE SORT OF AT LARGE FROM THE CHAMBER TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF MOVING AHEAD ON A SALES TAX AND AT LEAST LOOKING AT WHAT SURVEY WORK WE MIGHT WANTED TO DO FIRST. WE ARE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT RESOLUTION TO HAND OUT THE THE CITIES. WHAT I AM GOING SUGGEST IS ESPECIALLY IF WE GET SUPPORT FROM THE BUSINESS GROUP THAT IS THERE, MARY ANNE IS GOING HANDLE THIS FOR ME. I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN THAT DAY. WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS LEAVE THE CITYS WITH A DRAFT RESOLUTION SO THEY CAN GET SUPPORT FROM THEIR STAYS TO MOVE FORWARD. WE WOULD PUT FORWARD THE POINT THAT WE WOULD PAY FOR HALF OF WHATEVER THE FIRST STEP SURVEY IS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS IN LOCKSTEP. THIS WILL NEVER MAKE IF IT WE ARE NOT ALTOGETHER. I AM PLANNING ON BRINGING BACK THE RESULTS. MARY ANNE IS IN THE FIRST MEETING SEPTEMBER. I WILL BE ASKING YOU TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO SAY YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
THAT WOULD BE NOON ON THE 26th YOU SAY?
YEAH.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DAYTONA CHAMBER OR HAVE YOU TALKED TO OTHER CHAMBERS.
I TALKED TO NANCY AT THE DAYTONA CHAMBER. I DIDN'T CARE WHAT AREA THEY WERE AND IN BUT TO TRY TO SEE IF SHE COULD GET AT LEAST 10 BUSINESS PEOPLE IN WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING OVER AND REVIEWING AND UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE. JUST TO GET A FEEL. NOT SO MUCH AN ENDORSEMENT. BUT I FELT LIKE WE GOT TO GET SOME PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE LOGICAL PEOPLE THAT ARE THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE THAT COULD SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS MAKES SENSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE RUN IT AT LEAST BY SOMEBODY. THE NEXT STEP THE WE MOVE FORWARD WE COULD LOOK AT SOLICITING MORE SUPPORT. I WANTED TO HAVE SOME BUSINESS PEOPLE THERE. TO SEE IF WE ARE GETTING ANY PUSH BACK.
JUST I AM SURE YOU HAVE THOUGHT OF IT. A WORD OF CAUTION. IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE WEST SIDE PEOPLE, WEST SIDE BUSINESS PEOPLE ATTEND. THE FORD FAMILY. THAT KIND OF THING. ALEX WOULD BE GOOD.
WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
OKAY.
NOW, I AM VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE TAMMY.
IF JANINE. IF WOULD YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE HERE. WE HAVE JUST WON THE 2015 ANNUAL ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT AWARD WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS ONLY BEEN IT IS ONLY GIVEN, WE ARE ONE OF ONLY 47 COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA THAT WAS AWARDED THIS. THE CRITERIA IS DESIGNED TO MEASURE INNOVATION OF THE PROCUREMENT PUCKS. THAT SETS US APART. I THINK IT SHOWS THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION OF THE STAFF. I THINK WHEN YOU ARE 1 OF 47 COUNTIES IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES THAT WON THIS AWARD, I THINK IT MEANS SOMETHING. MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE PUBLIC TAXPAYER. IN THIS, NOT ONLY DO WE PROTECT PUBLIC TAXPAYERS AND PUBLIC MONEY, THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS THAT WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT AND VERY FAIR IN HOW WE AWARD CONTRACTS. THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY IS USED WISELY. WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TRANSPARENT SYSTEM WHERE ALL PEOPLE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BENEFIT BY BIDDING ON PUBLIC CONTRACTS. THAT'S A BIG PART OF PROCUREMENT. I COULD NOT BE MORE PLEASED BY THE STAFF TAN BEAUTY OF WHAT WE DO ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE IS ALL THE ACCOLADES WE GET BY NOBODY COMING DOWN AND PROTESTING HOW MUCH WRONG WE HAVE DONE. IF YOU PUT YOUR EAR TO THE GROUND AND HEAR THE ISSUES THAT GO ON IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ONE OF THE ONES THAT COMES THROUGH PEOPLE CLAIMING THERE IS CORRUPTION. COERCION OR WHATEVER IN TERMS OF HOW CONTRACTS ARE AWARDED OR HOW WE PURCHASE PRODUCTS. FACT THAT WE DON'T HEAR THAT HERE SAYS A LOT. IT ALSO RENEWS CONFIDENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR GOVERNMENT. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO SINS IS THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THEY GOT TO THINK YOU ARE HONEST. THIS I THINK IS PROOF BY AN OUTSIDE AGENCY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE THE BEST WE CAN AT PROCURING. CONGRATULATIONS.
I TAUGHT HER EVERYTHING SHE KNOWS TODAY.
LADIES. YOU-ALL ARE OUT OF UNIFORM.
MY APOLOGY.
MR. PATTERSON COULD YOU DO THE HONOR SIR.
HERE IS YOUR AWARD.
COME UP AND GET YOUR PENS.
YOU WERE MOTIONING AND SECONDING ALL DAY. THANK YOU LADIES. CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU GUYS.
MR. CHAIR, I THINK IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THE FACT THAT THESE HAPPEN TO BE JUST HAPPENED TO BE TWO FEMALES THAT WORK IN VOLUSIA COUNTY.
YES.
TWO WOMEN.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. DINNEEN.
TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS. ONE IS TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT OUR FIRST TWO OF BUDGET HEARINGS WE WILL CALL THEM FORMAL BUDGET HEARING BUT TWO OF THE FORMAL BUDGET HEARINGS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE IN SEPTEMBER 10th AT 6:00 P.M.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SHE IS GOING PASS OUT TO YOU THIS IS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THE REALITY WE FOUND BOUGHT THE FIRE FUND WHICH BECAUSE OF THE MINOR THERE WAS A REVISION IN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE ON VALUES IN THE FIRE DISTRICT. WE WILL EXPERIENCE 290,000 DOLLARS FROM WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE. THAT IS IS A SIGNIFICANT A MONEY. THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. IT WON'T KILL US. THAT IS NOT A FUND WITH A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY. WE PUT IN 45-CENTS UP. THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD TO. LAST BUT NOT LEASE. ON SEPTEMBER 10th, I PLAN ON BRINGING FORWARD MARK SWANSON AND HE HAS PUT TOGETHER A SHORT FILM ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HAPPENED AT THE UNITED STATES LIFE GUARD LIFE SAFING ASSOCIATION CHAMPIONSHIPS. WE CAME IN THIRD. WHICH IS THE BEST WE HAVE EVER DONE. AGAINST SOME VERY BIG COMPETITORS. WHEN YOU ARE COMPETING AGAINST LA WHAT A POPULATION OF 4, 5 MILLION PEOPLE IN THAT COUNTY VERSUS 500,000 HERE TO DO AS WELL AS WE DID, I ASKED THEM TO ALSO HE IS GOING TO COME FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT. I RECEIVED A TON OF POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. OVER 2,000 HOTEL ROOMS. WE MADE SURE THE EVENTS WERE DONE AT 5:00. PEOPLE TENDED TO SPEND MONEY IN THE RESTAURANTS ET CETERA. WE DID VERY WELL THE THE COMPETITION. WE CAME IN FIRST PLACE, EVEN THOUGH WE CAME IN THIRD OVER ALL WE CAME IN FIRST PLACE IN A NUMBER OF EVENTS. I AM PROUD TO SAY SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE HAVE THAT WORK FOR YOU ARE CONSIDERED BY THE P UNITED STATES LIFE SAFING ASSOCIATION THE BEST THERE IS HAD THE COUNTRY. THAT WAS A REAL POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. PERSONALLY I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT UP CLOSE. WE ARE HOPING TO -- WE WILL GET IT IN 17. WE ARE HOPING TO CONVINCE THEM IF IT IS ON THE EAST COAST IT OUGHT TO BE HERE. I HAD MORE PEOPLE SAY TO ME, THAT THESE ARE THE THIS IS THE BALANCE WE SHOULD HAVE FOR BIKE WEEK AND EVERYTHING. NOT THROWING THEM OUT. BUT IN IS THE BALANCE WHERE WE ARE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ALL ABOUT FAMILY, ABOUT HEALTH. AND ABOUT REALLY USING THE RESOURCES THAT GOD GAVE US HERE IN TERMS OF THE BEAUTIFUL OCEAN AND THE ESPECIALLY WAY OUR BEACHES ARE CONSTRUCTED BY GOD IN TERMS OF THE SLOPE THAT WE HAVE. IT MADE COMPETITION WORK GREAT. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. LOTS OF PEOPLE LOVED IT. HOTELS WOULD LIKE US TO GET ON IT A REGULAR BASIS. THEY COULD ADVERTISE IT SO THAT PEOPLE FOR EXAMPLE IN TO SWIMMING, WOULD MAYBE SCHEDULE THEIR TIME OF VACATION WHEN THE TRIALS ARE. THEY GET TO SAI SEE THAT ALL FOR FREE. COULD NOT HAVE WENT BETTER. WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.
BIKE WEEK A FAMILY EVENT.
WE WILL CALL THAT THE OTHER FAMILY EVENT.
MY WHOLE FAMILY RIDE AS BIKE.
MR. ECKERD DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER CLOSING COMMENTS. SEPTEMBER10th IS THE NEXT DATE FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AM I CORRECT.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
VERY WELL. IT WILL BE A FULL AGENDA DAY OR? I MEAN WE ARE DOING A NIGHTTIME. WE HAVE TO DO THE BUDGET AT NIGHT.
BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO STAY HERE FOR THE BUDGET, I AM GOING TRY AND MAKE SURE I FILL THAT DAY UP WITH WONDERFUL THINGS UP TO THE BUDGET.
HE SAYS THIS FROM THE OTHER SIDE FROM A GUY THAT HAS A HAMMER. YOU HAVE A FULL DAY.
WE WILL BREAK. I WILL TELL YOU SO YOU KNOW WE WILL TAKE A SHORT DINNER BREAK WHICH WE WILL HAVE FOR EVERYBODY HERE. WE WILL DO THAT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:00.
SEPTEMBER 10th PUBLIC PARTICIPATION 8:30 AND WE WILL START PROMPTLY AT 9:00. VERY WELL. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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