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Meeting Minutes of The ABSS Career & Technical Education Automotive Advisory CommitteeSeptember 23, 2014Meeting Date: September 23, 2014Location: ABSS Career & Technical Education Center 2550 Buckingham Rd. Burlington, NC 27217Members Present:Marshall Zimmerman – Dick Shirley Chevrolet, Cadillac & MazdaDr. Dace Lewis Jr - ConsumerDon Smith – Retired Automotive InstructorJimmy Lewis – The Tire CenterRandy Minor – O’Reilly Auto PartsSteve Childress – The Tire CenterMarc Hunter – Alamance Community CollegeJerry Yeates – Alamance Community CollegeBill Crabtree – Alamance Community CollegeJohn Brinson – Flow VolkswagenWesley Kephart – O’Reilly Auto PartsTerry Drummond – CTEC Auto InstructorDouglas Neese – CTEC Auto InstructorVictoria (Tori) Pace – CTEC Automotive StudentMembers Absent:Randy Neel – Auto Technician Nichols DodgeTroy O’Shields – Westcott BuickTony Holland – Crenshaw HyundaiChris Dubbs – Carolina NissanThe ABSS Career & Technical Education Center Automotive Advisory Committee convened at 6: 30 PM in the CTEC automotive classroom. Mr. Neese welcomed the committee and thanked them for taking time from their busy schedules to meet together and advising them that dinner would be served in the Culinary Arts classroom. Dr. Dace Lewis gave the invocation.The meeting began at 7: 15 PM with Mr. Drummond thanking the committee again for their willingness to serve and take time from their schedules to assist the students and staff of CTEC. Mr. Drummond announced the departure of Ms. Blackmon and introduced Mr. Darrel Thomas as our new principal of CTEC. Mrs. Kimberly Davis was introduced as our new CDC (Career Development Coordinator).Committee members were given copies of the current course descriptions and associated NATEF task lists. Mr. Drummond explained the changes within the curriculum that now reflect a logically sequenced program that all automotive programs in the State were to follow. Discussion was also heard regarding the phase in period of the new curriculum to allow previously enrolled students opportunities to complete the program. Mr. Drummond also discussed the future use and availability of the Electrical/Electronics and Brakes courses. These courses will continue to be offered and put in place as need arises. The same falls true for any Advanced Study courses. A sample of a student pathway was given and stressed that each student’s situation and academic needs would be different and there were various options for completion. The sample pathway took the student through the Auto III level with the Auto Service II level as the completer. Also, in the illustration, the student could receive a student credential through ASE providing the student successfully passed the ASE G1 test. Furthermore, in the student example, the student became an AYES student who would enter the 360 hour internship agreement and be gainfully employed by the time of his/her graduation. Mr. Drummond asked the committee members if there were any additional areas they would like to see taught. An example was given to the members from the Tire Center that if they wanted the students to learn how to properly repair tires it could be included in the curriculum as there is enough flexibility to add it in. No comments were made regarding adding any items to the current curriculum structure at this time. Mr. Drummond indicated the current curriculum was in pilot for the 2014-2015 school year pending final approval from the NC DPI. The end of course tests are also in field test for this year with the test questions being aligned to the NATEF task list for each level. Doing so has finally made the end of course test a valid test. Mr. Drummond indicated the test questions were created by the automotive instructors across the State and not a third party further indicating the plausibility of the test questions.Mr. Drummond introduced the SP2 online safety training. Emphasis was placed on this course as a self-study and that it would not be used soley for that purpose. Lecture and reinforcement through demonstrations would be used in preparation for the required safety exam. The SP2 passing requirement is 80% which is less than our requirement of 100%. Discussion was heard regarding the 100% score requirement of the CTEC safety exam. This exam is broken down into two areas identified as the need to know to prevent injury or death and the nice to know items. In no way was the SP2 curriculum and test to take the place of the current test and testing format. Marc Hunter indicated that at ACC they do not use the SP2 online site but do use other methods. This course was selected based on thoroughness and OSHA approval.Mr. Neese informed the committee members of the changes with the some of the equipment in the shop. The installation of a new swing arm tire changer and tire balancer would further enhance the curriculum and exposure to industry standard equipment. Also, the computer in the shop currently running the Mitchel shop management program was replaced due to lacking the necessary resources to run the program properly. The latest version of the shop manager was installed and the program now automatically updates without any human or manual input. Mr. Neese strongly discussed the need to have electrical outlets and compressed air outlets installed at the lifts. This is necessary to prevent tripping hazards from cords and hoses crossing the designated walkways in the shop. Mr. Neese indicated that we have requested this work be completed each year for the last two years and it has not been done. The committee was asked to make a recommendation that the maintenance department of the Alamance Burlington School System install the electrical outlets and place air drops with regulators at each lift location. Jimmy Lewis from The Tire Center made a motion to recommend the installation of the electrical outlets and air drops. Steve Childress from The Tire Center seconded the motion. All members unanimously agreed to have the electrical outlets and air drops installed as requested.Ralph Wampler a student from Mr. Drummond’s class introduced the committee to the ATEC virtual electrical/electronics trainer by demonstrating how the trainer would be used as well as how it helped him learn the electrical concepts and feel comfortable that a mistake would not cause an otherwise very expense component to be destroyed. Mr. Drummond explained the comparison between the physical trainer and the virtual one and the only item that posed a concern was the fact the meter in the program did not resemble the fluke meters we use and the range and connections at the meter were made for the student. Mr. Drummond also indicated that through use of a previous virtual training program that it does work and students were able to perform a live hands-on task on a vehicle without asking questions regarding the use of the meter and the circuit they were testing. The cost was given from the estimate provided by ATEC at $11,928.80 that would provide 16 users and be networked and accessible throughout the district and could be used by Western HS automotive students as well. Mr. Drummond asked for the committee to make a motion to recommend the purchase of the ATEC virtual trainers. Marc Hunter made the motion with Jerry Yeates making the second. It was unanimously approved to recommend the purchase of the ATEC virtual trainers.The meeting was turned over to Coleman Hester and Tyler Baldwin students of the automotive electrical class as they presented the exterior light trainer project their class is constructing. Coleman explained the specifics of the board and how it would be used to help him and future students of the automotive program. Tyler further explained how repetitive practice would help him and future students understand the concepts. Mr. Drummond explained how he wanted this to be a simple light trainer but the students have chosen to take it to the next 3rd or 4th level by incorporating the body control module making diagnostics for daytime running lights, power door lock, and power windows available. He informed the committee the16 pin data link connector would be used to retrieve diagnostic trouble codes using a scan tool.The committee moved to the auto shop where Eric Quigley, a student from Mr. Neese’s brakes class demonstrated how he would determine the cause of a brake pulsation on alive shop car using a micrometer to measure twelve locations on the rotor and performing a lateral runnout test with a dial indicator. Eric explained his findings and how he would use the results to recommend the steps necessary to correct the brake pulsation.The committee returned to the classroom and each student assisted the committee members with logging onto a computer and access the Advisory Committee annual review form for them to complete. Mr. Drummond provided a handout of both instructor’s qualifications and current training status to be used during the review process. The last item of discussion surround the AYES accreditation and how there is a need to have a separate meeting with dealer principals and independent repair facility owners to show them how a student entering the internship would benefit everyone involved. A brief overview of the internship agreement was given. Mr. Drummond once again presented the five students present from the automotive program as outstanding prospects for employment within the local community. Mr. Neese asked for a vote on the next meeting date. It was agreed to meet on June 9, 2015 at 6:30 PM. Mr. Drummond informed the committee that Mr. Thomas has extended the opportunity for all committee members to visit at any time. The possibility of a luncheon meeting was discussed and may be pursed further.Mr. Neese adjourned the meeting at 8:15 PM.Respectfully Submitted,Vistoria PaceStudent Advisory Committee Member ................
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