University of Washington



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From: TEESEEBEE@

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ? Henry Mosler Flag painting

*****

Hello all.

Need the title of a Henry Mosler painting depicting (presumably)

Betsy Ross and other seamstresses creating the American flag -- one woman

holds the flag up while three seated women stitch in various places. I have

searched numerous internet art archives to no avail. There are other

Revolutionary War-themed paintings by Henry Mosler, including one of

Washington crossing the Delaware.

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:36:25 -0500

From: David B G Kresh

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ? Henry Mosler Flag painting

According to Henry Mosler Rediscovered (Skirball Museum, Los Angeles, 1995), p. 139, this is called "The Birth of the Flag," is dated 1912, and is in the Georgetown University Art Collection, right here in D.C.

David Kresh

Humanities & Social Sciences Division

Library of Congress

dakr@

>>> 11/01 4:31 PM >>>

Hello all.

BIOG





see biog. – “birth of the American flag”

Need the title of a Henry Mosler painting depicting (presumably)

Betsy Ross and other seamstresses creating the American flag -- one woman

holds the flag up while three seated women stitch in various places. I have

searched numerous internet art archives to no avail. There are other

Revolutionary War-themed paintings by Henry Mosler, including one of

Washington crossing the Delaware.

Thanks for any information.

Thanks for any information.

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:47:00 -0500 (EST)

From: TEESEEBEE@

To: dakr@, STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Thank you: Henry Mosler Flag painting

In a message dated 11/02/01 8:37:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, dakr@

writes:

>

Thank you so much, David Kresh. I spent several hours

internet-searching every which way. Just proves that relying on the internet

for information is a bad habit.

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Can anybody sugges where I might locate a Net copy of George Orwell's

article about his ideal pub 'The Moon Under Water'? I've tried the London

Evening Standard site, but its archive doesn't go back to 1946.

Regards

Nich in London

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?Moon Under Water

Can anybody sugges where I might locate a Net copy of George Orwell's article about his ideal pub 'The Moon Under Water'? I've tried the London Evening Standard site, but its archive doesn't go back to 1946.

Regards

Nich in London

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:41:17 -0500 (EST)

From: Denise_Montgomery

To: "Rutland, Nick (CRTLDN)"

Cc: stumpers

Subj: Re: !Moon Under Water

Dear Nick,

According to the bibliography on a web site titled "The Pub in Literature:

England's Altered State" at



you can locate this essay in:

Orwell, George. "The Moon Under Water" in The Collected Essays,

Journalism, and Letters of George Orwell, Hammondsworth: Penguin, 1971

[c1946], vol. 3, pp. 63-65.

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? Denise Montgomery "Knowledge is of two kinds; ?

? Valdosta State Univ Library we know a subject ourselves, ?

? Valdosta, GA 31698 or we know where we can find ?

? information upon it." ?

? (229) 333-5867 Dr. Samuel Johnson, Boswell's ?

? (229) 333-5862 FAX Life of Johnson, April 15, 1775 ?

? dmontgom@valdosta.edu ?

? ?

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:02:35 -0600

From: Dennis Lien

To: "Rutland, Nick (CRTLDN)"

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ?Moon Under Water

At 03:05 PM 11/2/01 +0000, you wrote:

>>>>

Can anybody sugges where I might locate a Net copy of George Orwell's

article about his ideal pub 'The Moon Under Water'? I've tried the London

Evening Standard site, but its archive doesn't go back to 1946.

Regards

Nich in London

on Davila, was published in 1790 (though date varies in several accounts)

>shortly after his return to the US after his three-year sojourn in London. It

>is considered the fourth volume to his "massive and motley three-volume

>collection of quotations, unacknowledged citations and personal observations

>entitled A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of

>America (1787)."

>

>My patron's question is: What or Who is Davila? As always any help will be

Eva Greenberg

Eva M. Greenberg

Oberlin Public Library

Oberlin, OH 44074

Tel: 440-775-4790

Fax: 440-774-2880

Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 12:12:42 -0700 (MST)

From: Eva Greenberg

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: *THANKS for Davila

My thanks to Ted Nesbitt for his answer to my question on Davila. My patron

was really pleased with your response.

I still do have one question though. I had found Arrigo Caterino Davila

(presumably the same person you mentioned) too - but could find no proof that

it was actually he to whom Adams referred. Did you find this proof somewhere

and if so, could you tell me where? Again many thanks for your swift reply.

It really helped a lot! Eva

Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 12:02:58 -0500

From: tedjnesbitt@ (Ted Nesbitt)

To: evagreenberg@ (Eva Greenberg), STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: RE: *THANKS for Davila

Eva:

I'll do my best to reconstruct my approach to your question. I'm not sure that I can remember all the steps or give a complete account.

I started with a google search, using Adams and "Discourses on Davila" as my terms, I think. In one of the many hits, I found a reference to France and its civil wars. I checked the "Encyclopedia Americana" under "Adams,"

and found mention of the "Discourses" and Adams' interest in civil unrest in France. I continued to use print material -- forgive me for occasionally allowing my fingers to touch paper instead of a plastic keyboard -- and read the "Davila, Enrico Caterino" entry in "Webster's Biographical Dictionary." It was that information that sealed the deal for me, since Davila had fought in civil wars and wrote about the French wars,

"Storia delle Guerre Civili di Francia" (1630).

I "might" have found another entry in a reference book, but I'm not sure.

At any rate, I was convinced by the "preponderance of the evidence" that I had the right Davila. I was waiting for an Adams' scholar on this list [one who has actually read the "Discourses"] to give a more definite answer.

Ted

Eva Greenberg wrote:

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:33:14 -0600 (CST)

From: Lois Fundis

To: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: New wind chill index/charts

Some of you in balmier climes may not be interested, but those of us here in

the north might want this information in the next few months:

The National Weather Service and Meteorological Services of Canada have

revised the formula for figuring wind chills, and new charts are available.

People may want to print these out for use instead of the old ones we've

been relying on.

The NWS' chart is at

along with an explanation of why the new system is better, which includes

another chart showing how different the chill factors are between the new

chart and the old one.

There's a much more colorful one from NWS' Missoula, MT, office at



And USA Today had a very nice one in yesterday's (Nov.1) paper, on the back

page of section A with the weather map. They also have more info about it

online, at

From West Virginia, where it's windy but warm today.

* * * *

Lois Aleta Fundis, Reference ^~~~~^ and Gov't. Documents Librarian

Mary H. Weir Public Library, (O) (O) Weirton, WV 26062

fundisl@weirton.lib.wv.us . \/ . 304-797-8510 (fax -8526)

"Carpe librum!"

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:02:00 -0600

From: Elizabeth Danley

To: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Cc: edanley@asl.lib.ar.us

Subj: ?cpi and cost of living -- by state

Hello Stumpers

A patron has requested the latest possible info on Consumers Price Index

and Cost of Living --broken down by state. We are able to find by region

and metropolitan area but not by state. Any suggestions?

TIA

Elizabeth Danley, Reference

Arkansas State Library

One Capitol Mall

Little Rock, AR 72201

(501) 682-2053

edanley@asl.lib.ar.us

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Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 23:43:56 -0600

From: "Michael J. Lowrey"

To: Elizabeth Danley

Cc: Stumpers list

Subj: Re: ?cpi and cost of living -- by state

>Hello Stumpers

> A patron has requested the latest possible info on Consumers Price

>Index

>and Cost of Living --broken down by state. We are able to find by region

>and metropolitan area but not by state. Any suggestions?

>TIA

>Elizabeth Danley, Reference

>Arkansas State Library

I don't believe these are calculated by state, because states are such

heterogenous units that it makes little sense to aggregate the date. I

invite you, as an Arkansawyer, to compare the cost of living in Marked Tree

or Huntsville to that in Little Rock, for example.

--

Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey

Sunrise Book & Software Reviews

This war, it will be just like the War on Drugs. It will be potent and

effective and our objectives will be clear. The nation had a nasty drug

problem and we declared a war on drugs and spent billions over many years

and now you can't buy drugs anymore. It will be just like that.

-- Mark Morford

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 15:48:40 -0800

From: TRL Central Reference

To: stumpers list

Cc: asklib@timberland.lib.wa.us

Subj: ?dead men poem

Patron remembers fragment of a poem and does not remember where she

heard it! Sound familiar?! "dead men,yet they all be, who know no joy,

but misery..." Any takers?!

Thanks,

Mary Ann Shaffer

***********************************************************************.

Central Reference--TRL .

Timberland Regional Library .

7023 New Market St .

Tumwater WA 98501 .

Voice -- 360-943-6193 .

fax ---- 360-943-6347 .

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Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 12:33:36 -0500

From: Dan Clinton

To: S Reynolds , stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: Actor in the Dell Computer Commercial -- verification

Ben Curtis, now 20, graduated from The McCallie School, Chattanooga, Tenn.,

Class of '99

See:



Is that enough info?

----- Original Message -----

From: S Reynolds

To:

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:49 AM

Subject: Actor in the Dell Computer Commercial

> Some time ago, someone had success in tracking down the child actor in the

> car commercial, the "zumzum" boy. Now I have a patron looking for the name

> of the actor in the Dell Computer commercial where he tries to persuade

his

> friend's mother to buy a Dell computer. Is there a website available to

find

> this information?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sandy Reynolds

>

>

> I don't know whether the world is run by smart people who are putting us

on,

> or by imbeciles who really mean it.

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 16:19:09 -0600

From: Dennis Lien

To: testj@

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ! Lil Abner character

At 03:25 PM 11/3/01 -0600, you wrote:

>>>>

A patron is looking for the name of a Lil Abner character who rode a 3

wheeled bike/motorcycle that had an outhouse type building on the back

(don't know whether it was in a wagon, or actually on the back of the

vehicle). The outhouse had a crooked stove pipe type chimney coming out

the roof. I have searched the archives, and this character isn't

mentioned. Have looked at the official Lil Abner website, and have

searched the Encyclopedia of Comics, The Smithsonian Collection of

Newspaper Comics, and various other reference books about comics and

newspapers. Can anyone help?

TIA

JCT

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Janis C. Test email: testj@

Information Services homepage: apl

Abilene Public Library (`-"""""-`)

202 Cedar / 6 6 \

Abilene, Tx 79601 |.--._.--.|

(915) 676-6025 / \

fax: (915)738-8082 \ (o o) /

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We will continue to look for a picture and will re-check our previous

>searches.

>

>thanks to you and Sue Kamm for your help.

>

>Janis

More on Humphrey Pennyworth--

In a further check, I found a picture on the web of HP, but he's

boxing Joe rather than driving his Humphreymobile (or Pennymobile--

I forget which it was called):



(Found by searching for Joe Palooka images, using Google's image search.)

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // d-lien@tc.umn.edu

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Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 17:10:09 -0600

From: "Janis C. Test"

To:

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: RE: ! Lil Abner character

I can't get to that address right now, but will try again tomorrow (we close

in just a bit)

Thanks again for the help.

JCT

-----Original Message-----

From: Dennis Lien [mailto:Dennis.K.Lien-1@tc.umn.edu]

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:03 PM

To: testj@

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subject: RE: ! Lil Abner character

At 04:41 PM 11/3/01 -0600, Janis C. Test wrote:

>

>Thanks Denny! A quick check of the IMDB finds several early

movies with

>this character's name and your website describes him perfectly.

>We will continue to look for a picture and will re-check our previous

>searches.

>

>thanks to you and Sue Kamm for your help.

>

>Janis

More on Humphrey Pennyworth--

In a further check, I found a picture on the web of HP, but he's

boxing Joe rather than driving his Humphreymobile (or Pennymobile--

I forget which it was called):



(Found by searching for Joe Palooka images, using Google's

image search.)

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // d-lien@tc.umn.edu

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Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 17:11:16 -0600

From: Dennis Lien

To: Dennis Lien , testj@

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ! RE: ! Lil Abner character (Joe Palooka character, actually)

At 05:02 PM 11/3/01 -0600, Dennis Lien wrote:

>At 04:41 PM 11/3/01 -0600, Janis C. Test wrote:

>>

>>Thanks Denny! A quick check of the IMDB finds several early movies with

>>this character's name and your website describes him perfectly.

>>We will continue to look for a picture and will re-check our previous

>>searches.

>>

Google search on humphreymobile turned up a toy version:





Close enough for comic strip work?

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // d-lien@tc.umn.edu

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:15:31 -0600 (CST)

From: Laura Simpson

To: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: photography book - Rivers of Air

I'm looking for a book of landscape photographs called Rivers of Air..we

don't know date, publisher, or ISBN. I've checked OCLC, our vendor

database, and various out-of-print places and can't find it. Has anybody

heard of this book, by chance?

Thanks!

Laura

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Our patron remembers the plot of a novel by Stuart Cloete, but doesn't know the title. We have searched the WorldCat listing of novels by this author as well as an Internet subject search but patron does not recognized the titles listed. Neither were there any plot summaries in the bibliographic records.

Plot Summary from patron: "The heroine is captured and forced into prostitution. To break her spirit and ensure compliance, and to make her afraid to escape, she is beaten and maybe sexually assualted by her captor. At some point the hero of the story comes to the brothel where he meets the heroine. In spite of their relationship, he is unexpectedly and uncommonly kind and gentle with her. Over a period of time he returns again and again, always asking for her. Finally at some point he helps her to escape, and he provides a safe and comfortable place for her to live. Because he is often gone - I think to South Africa for his job - he leaves his well trained guard dog to protect her.

However, her previous "owners" are not content that she had escaped and search for her. While her benefactor is gone, one man finds her hiding place. He is about to attack her with a knife, but the guard dog charges and kills the assailant. There are some parts of the plot about South Africa, but I forget them."

We would appreciate any title suggestions for this book' title that you might give.

Michael Moulds, Glenside Public Library District

Glendale Heights, IL 60139 mmoulds@

November 5, 2001

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Our patron remembers the plot of a novel by Stuart Cloete, but doesn't know

the title. We have searched the WorldCat listing of novels by this author as

well as an Internet subject search but patron does not recognized the titles

listed. Neither were there any plot summaries in the bibliographic

records.

 

Plot Summary from patron:  "The heroine is captured and forced into

prostitution. To break her spirit and ensure compliance, and to make her afraid

to escape, she is beaten and maybe sexually assualted by her captor. At some

point the hero of the story comes to the brothel where he meets the heroine. In

spite of their relationship, he is unexpectedly and uncommonly kind and gentle

with her. Over a period of time he returns again and again, always asking for

her.  Finally at some point he helps her to escape, and he provides a safe

and comfortable place for her to live. Because he is often gone - I think to

South Africa for his job - he leaves his well trained guard dog to protect

her.

However, her previous "owners" are not content that she had escaped and

search for her. While her benefactor is gone, one man finds her hiding place. He

is about to attack her with a knife, but the guard dog charges and kills the

assailant.  There are some parts of the plot about South Africa, but I

forget them."

 

We would appreciate any title suggestions for this book' title that you

might give.

Michael Moulds, Glenside Public Library District

Glendale Heights, IL  60139  mmoulds@

November 5, 2001

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================================================================================ Michael Moulds wrote

Our patron remembers the plot of a novel by Stuart Cloete.....

Plot Summary from patron: "The heroine is captured and forced into prostitution. To break her spirit and ensure compliance, and to make her afraid to escape, she is beaten....

Perhaps _The Abductors_ (Trident, 1966). "A disquieting novel of

white slavery in Victorian England."

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

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Michael Moulds wrote

Our patron remembers the plot of a novel by Stuart Cloete.....

 

Plot Summary from patron:  "The heroine is captured and forced into

prostitution. To break her spirit and ensure compliance, and to make her

afraid to escape, she is beaten....

 

 

  Perhaps _The Abductors_ (Trident, 1966). "A disquieting novel

of

white slavery in Victorian England."

 

 

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:14:29 -0500

From: tedjnesbitt@ (Ted Nesbitt)

To: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ?""Waiting for the other shoe to drop/fall""

Patron is looking for the origin of the phrase "waiting for the other shoe to fall" I found it in only one of our phrase books, "Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins," by William and Mary Morris, 2d ed., New York: Harper & Row, 1987, p. 193: "Drop the other shoe -- This expression, meaning 'end the suspense,' has been around for many decades. There are various stories to account for its origin . . . ." They go on to tell a joke that appeared in a German magazine.

I found several references to apartment dwellers through a google search.

All the citations are to the punch lines of jokes.

Patron is unhappy.

Does anyone know of a source, other than a punch line, to which this expression can be traced?

Thanks.

Ted Nesbitt

--

Elbin Library

West Liberty State College

West Liberty, WV - 26074

Phone: (304) 336-8365

Fax: (304) 336-8186

Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:11:50 -0800 (PST)

From: Marilyn Wilkerson

To: Stumpers

Subj: Re: ?""Waiting for the other shoe to drop/fall""

For what it's worth, Word Detective also says the

origin of the phrase is apparently from the joke:



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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:52:27 -0600

From: Dennis Lien

To: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ? Octavio Paz poem / ""One day shall come like a rose""

Second of two Mexican-related questions today: client is looking for a

poem by Octavio Paz which contains the sentiments/lines that

"Slow like stones are God's doings with us.

One day shall come like a rose, one day like a flower."

We don't have a Paz concordance. We do have a lot of Paz collections,

of course, though our copy of the 669-page COLLECTED POEMS of 1987

is checked out. I don't read Spanish (well, a little bit if I get a

running start and the wind behind me). Our Hispanic Bibliographer

didn't recognize this poem; I'm again hoping someone here will.

Gracias,

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // d-lien@tc.umn.edu

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 13:38:58 -0800 (PST)

From: Sarah Nagel

To: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: citation verification

Hi Stumpers.

I have a patron enrolled in a distance education

program whose 10 obscure ILL requests are about to try

my last nerve... Can anyone verify the existence of a

book entitled: A Synopsis of Six System Theories. The

author's last name might be McWhinney. She thinks the

date is 1995. I have tried several searches in

WorldCat but can't seem to get a handle on this last

one. I tried to find an online syllabus for her class

to get a better citation, but unfortunately it's

restricted access. Extra special library love goes out

to anyone who can give me an ISBN.

Thanks,

Sarah

P.S. Anyone who wants to join my new professional

association, SLACS (Small Libraries Against

Correspondence Schools) can send me personal checks

and cash in any amount. Donations will be used to

bring rural library reference collection up to the

Bodleian standards our Continuing Ed. patrons seem to

expect these days...

Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:55:17 -0500 (EST)

From: Donna Burton

To: Sarah Nagel

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: citation verification

Here's a site with reference to a seminar conducted by Will McWhinney:

that says:

The ideas we are presenting merge the Six System Theories Model, based on

Will McWhinney's "of Paradigms and System Theories" and "Paths of Change"

(SAGE, 1992) and the Adaptive Systems work of the Santa Fe Institute.

[What I have in quotes was in italics]

I don't know if this will help any other than to confirm the author's

name, since there is no reference to a book by that title. I'm thinking

article???

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Sarah Nagel wrote:

> Hi Stumpers.

> I have a patron enrolled in a distance education

> program whose 10 obscure ILL requests are about to try

> my last nerve... Can anyone verify the existence of a

> book entitled: A Synopsis of Six System Theories. The

> author's last name might be McWhinney. She thinks the

> date is 1995. I have tried several searches in

> WorldCat but can't seem to get a handle on this last

> one. I tried to find an online syllabus for her class

> to get a better citation, but unfortunately it's

> restricted access. Extra special library love goes out

> to anyone who can give me an ISBN.

> Thanks,

> Sarah

>

note: Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 17:23:33 -0600

From: Dennis Lien

To: Donna Burton , Sarah Nagel

Cc: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: %%% Re: citation verification

> Here's a sort-of homepage for Will McWhinney, listing some of his

publications:



Fielding Graduate Institute, 2112 Santa Barbara Street,

Santa Barbara, CA 93105 | 800-340-1099 | 805-687-1099

HOD Faculty

Will McWhinney, Ph.D. (1979*) Venice, California

Ph.D., Carnegie Mellon University, 1964

Selected Publications: Creating Paths of Change, Sage, 1997;

"Praxis: Beyond theory and practice," Cybernetics and Human

Knowing, 1997; Paths of Change: Strategic Choices for

Organizations and Society, Sage Publications, 1993; "All creative

people are not alike," Creativity and Innovative Management,

1993.

Memberships: Association for Humanistic Psychology (President

1987-88); American Society for Cybernetics.

Special Interests: Systems praxis; the use of myth and symbol

in organizational change; resolution of complex issues and social

change; education and consciousness at midlife.

Related Professional Activities: President, Enthusion, Inc.

Will McWhinney, Will

Venice, California

Tel: 310-392-1343

Email: wmcwhinney@fielding.edu

*********

We have his 1992 PATHS OF CHANGE--but it's currently checked out.

Maybe it's a chapter or appendix in that or another book?

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // d-lien@tc.umn.edu

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:53:58 -0500

From: Suzanne Colligan

To: STUMPERS-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Poem?

Greetings,

A patron called with what he believes to be a first line from a Henry W.

Longfellow poem..."Show me the way in which a nation buries its dead..." I

tried Grangers (print/online) also selected and complete HW Longfellow

works, Google, Best Loved Poems of the American People, Home Book of

Quotations, and Bartlett's. Any takers?

Thanks,

Suzanne Colligan

Reference Librarian

Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, Central

(716) 858-7117

colligans@

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:12:54 -0800

From: Valerie Patrick

To: "'STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu'"

Subj: ? Winston Churchill Quote

Hello!

This may be my first Stumpers appeal. I have a coworker desperately seeking

what he believes to be a quote by Winston Churchill. He is not entirely

certain of the wording, but it is to illustrate the way any event can be

twisted to demonstrate what one wants. The quote is along the following

lines:

"If I walked across the Thames tomorrow, the headlines would read "Churchill

can't swim"."

He has checked Bartlett's and I've checked some quotation webpages, even a

quick Ebsco serach, and web searches using google.

Does this quote sound familiar to any Churchill lovers out there?

Thank you,

Valerie

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Valerie Patrick

Librarian

Greater Vancouver Regional District

ph: 604/432-6335

fax: 604/432-6445

valerie.patrick@gvrd.bc.ca

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From: Jeanne Schramm

To: stumpers-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ? Winston Churchill Quote

Winston Churchill may have said something similar but according to the website "Quotez," it was President Lyndon B. Johnson who said, "If one morning I walked on top of the water across the Potomac River, the headline that afternoon would read "PRESIDENT CAN'T SWIM."

Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 19:20:59 -0500

From: "D. Simpson"

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ?? Gang Name

Hello Fellow Stumpers!

We have a discrepancy that doesn't seemed to be easily resolved. We have

someone claiming that Billy The Kid had a gang named "The Regulators" and

another person claiming that he was a loner and had no gang. We can't find

information to substantiate either claim.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Sunrise_5038@

Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway

through my fish burger and I realize, Oh my God....I could

be eating a slow learner.

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 19:26:10 -0500

From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell"

To: "D. Simpson" ,

Subj: Re: ?? Gang Name

See the following excerpt from



Billy & the Lincoln County War

Billy soon found employment with the young English rancher John Tunstall,

who together with his partners John Chisum and Alexander McSween, was

embroiled in bloody Lincoln County Range War. When Tunstall was murdered

February 18, 1878, Billy joined a force called the "Regulators," led by

Tunstall's foreman Dick Brewer, who vowed vengeance and loyalty to partner

McSween.

The Regulators embarked on a killing spree of those suspected of involvement

in the assassination. Billy then hatched and carried out an ambush plot for

the leader of Tunstall's murders, Lincoln County Sheriff William Brady. On

April 1, Billy and the Regulators murdered Sheriff Brady and his deputy

George Hindman as they strolled through the town of Lincoln.

The Lincoln County War came to a bloody end during the 5-day Battle of

Lincoln in mid-July. After being besieged in McSween's house with a dozen

other Regulators, opponents (reinforced by soldiers from Fort Stanton),

burned the house to the ground and shot McSween dead. Billy escaped unhurt,

but with a price on his head, he surrendered in exchange for amnesty.

But Billy soon formed another gang and took up cattle rustling throughout

the county again. In December 1880, after two of his partners were shot and

killed, Billy was captured at Stinking Springs by Sheriff Pat Garrett. After

standing trial for murder in Mesilla, New Mexico in April 1881, he and was

found guilty and sentenced to hang. On April 28, Billy escaped jail once

again, killing two deputies in the process.

Lorie J. O'Donnell

Jervis Public Library Children's Room

Rome, NY 13440

The best is yet to be.

The last of life, for which the first was made.

- - - -Robert Browning "'Rabbi Ben Ezra"

> From: "D. Simpson"

> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 19:20:59 -0500

> To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

> Subject: ?? Gang Name

>

> Hello Fellow Stumpers!

> We have a discrepancy that doesn't seemed to be easily resolved. We have

> someone claiming that Billy The Kid had a gang named "The Regulators" and

> another person claiming that he was a loner and had no gang. We can't find

> information to substantiate either claim.

>

> Your help is greatly appreciated.

>

> Sunrise_5038@

> Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway

> through my fish burger and I realize, Oh my God....I could

> be eating a slow learner.

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

>

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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:59:29 -0500

From: David B G Kresh

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ?? Gang Name

You can find a lot on this question by doing a Google search of:

"billy the kid" regulators

The short answer appears to be that he was for a while a member of a group called the Regulators, but not the founder or original leader, although he may have played a leading part in some of the group's activities.

David Kresh

Humanities & Social Sciences Division

Library of Congress

dakr@

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 15:17:19 -0600

From: Daphne Drewello

To: Jan Gorden , stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: music terminology question

Jan Gordon wrote

>

> We have a patron who has a music terminology question: in a song like

> Irving Berlin's "God Bless America", when there is a beginning or

> introductory verse ("When the storm clouds gather..."), what is the

> technical term for that verse

I really shouldn't try to answer musical questions, but in the case of

"God Bless America", the opening section is often called the "Intro." .

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:42:59 -0500

From: Erica Cathers

To: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: music terminology question

It looks like "verse" is the traditional term and "intro" is a more modern

term.

In our Harvard Concise Dictionary of Music and Musicians, under "verse,"

3) In one of the most typical forms of American popular song of the mid-20th

century, words and music preceding the chorus or refrain, which constitutes

the body of the song itself.... in practice there may be only one set of

words for the verse, and it is often not performed at all... "

In our Billboard Book of Songwriting, p. 21 (in chapter "The Well-Organized

Song"), "Older songs often included a fairly short, introductory section

that set up the theme or subject matter of the song. Although usually

referred to today as the 'intro,' it is more properly the song's 'verse.'"

Erica Cathers

Gloucester City Library

> Hi All -

>

> We have a patron who has a music terminology question: in a song like

> Irving Berlin's "God Bless America", when there is a beginning or

> introductory verse ("When the storm clouds gather..."), what is the

> technical term for that verse?

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:44:58 -0500 (EST)

From: "John P. Dyson"

To: Jan Gorden

Cc: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: music terminology question

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Jan Gorden wrote:

> We have a patron who has a music terminology question: in a song like

> Irving Berlin's "God Bless America", when there is a beginning or

> introductory verse ("When the storm clouds gather..."), what is the

> technical term for that verse?

>

> I have heard such verses just called the "verse", with the second and

> usually much more familiar part called the "chorus" or "refrain", but we

> cannot find anything in our resources that makes a definite statement about

> what the actual term is. Are we overlooking something completely

> obvious? Or are we being more clueless than usual? Can anyone help???

Hi Jan,

Didn't George Burns sing obscure "verses" of very popular songs on the

TONIGHT SHOW years ago? One of the challenges was to figure out what song

he was introducing. He'd sing the whole verse in a quick patter and then a

scant line of the chorus to let us know what the song was.

John Dyson

Sppanish and Portuguese

Indiana University

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:56:36 -0800

From: Jan Gorden

To: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: thanks for music terminology help

Hi All -

Many many thanks for all the quick responses to my music terminology

question. I just talked to the patron and he was very pleased!

Thanks again,

Jan Gorden

Jackson County Library Services

jgorden@

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 18:47:17 -0500

From: John Ronan

To: stumpers-l@cuis.edu

Subj: BOAT

Hello,

We are trying to confirm that Ted Kennedy owns a wooden yatcht [sic]. Then, we are trying to find its name.

Thanks.

John Ronan

Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 20:27:12 -0600

From: Daphne Drewello

To: John Ronan , STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: BOAT

John Ronan wrote

> We are trying to confirm that Ted Kennedy owns a wooden yatcht. Then,

we are trying to find its name.

According to



. Rumors that the president was coming to Menemsha created a stir

shortly after noon when Sen. Edward Kennedy and his wife ,Victoria, and

Kennedy's son, Ted Jr., left a taxi and motored a dinghy to a 50-foot,

blue-hulled wooden schooner called Mya which has been in the Kennedy

family for years.

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 18:32:31 -0800

From: Ellen Cousins

To: John Ronan

Cc: stumpers-l@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: BOAT

Here is a little on the boat Kennedy sailed in 1997 named Mya, along

with a photo that shows wooden decking:



It is a 50-foot (one site says 52 feet) Concordia, a blue-hulled wooden

two-masted schooner which according to this site has been in the Kennedy

family for years:

.

HTH

Ellen C.

John Ronan wrote:

> We are trying to confirm that Ted Kennedy owns a wooden yatcht. Then, we are trying to find its name.

>

> Thanks.

>

> John Ronan

>

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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 18:36:41 -0800

From: Ellen Cousins

To: John Ronan

Cc: stumpers-l@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: BOAT

Here is a profile and full photo of the Mya:



Ellen C.

John Ronan wrote:

> We are trying to confirm that Ted Kennedy owns a wooden yatcht. Then, we are trying to find its name.

>

> Thanks.

>

> John Ronan

>

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 19:05:09 -0500

From: MICROTEXT@mbln.lib.ma.us

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Cc: MICROTEXT@mbln.lib.ma.us

Subj: Rev. Enoch Pratt and the Charlestown Navy Yard

I checked the BPL's catalog for Enoch Pratt, but did not find a prayer book

listed. Our older holdings are not in the online catalog and I was lazy and did

not want to walk upstairs, so I checked CATNYP

(New York's catalog) and found an Enoch Pratt, author of A Comprehensive

History, ecclesiastical and civil, of Eastham, Wellfleet, and Orleans: County

of Barnstable, Mass., from 1644 to 1844. This looked promising.

A check of K.G. Saur's American Biographical Index (searchable online at

saur-wbi.de) found two Enoch Pratts. The first was a clergyman, born in

Middleborough, Mass., in 1781, d. in Brewster, Mass., 2 Feb. 1860. The source

was Appleton's cylopaedia of American Biography, 1888. Another entry was in

Francis Samuel Drake's Dictionary of American Biography, 1870. He was the

paster of the Congregational Church in West Barnstable, Mass.

Enoch Pratt, the benefactor of Baltimore's library, was born in North

Middleborough, Mass., Sept. 10, 1808. The source was Contemporary American

Biography, 1895-1902.

We have the UMI set, Genealogy and Local History. We have bought the tapes for

the cataloging, but have yet to download them. Knowing that the Sutro Library

in California also had the set, I checked MELVYL (California Digital Library)

and identified Francis Greenleaf Pratt's The Pratt Family, 1890, as part of the

UMI set (fiche no. G392).

On page 168 is the entry for Baltimore's Enoch Pratt. He is indentified as the

son of Isaac Pratt. Isaac was the son of William Pratt (p. 164). Isaac's

brother was the clergyman Enoch Pratt. "His first pastorate began Oct. 28,

1807 at the West Church in Barnstable, remaining there about thirty years; when

he removed to Brewster, and continued to preach, supplying vacant pulpits, and

as an agent for Bible Societies, distributing the scriptures through the

country. He was in the ministry fifty-two years."

So, about all that remains to be done, is to check the National Union Catalog

and see if you can identify the prayer book that your parents saw. Then check

with the libraries of the Museums they visited and see if the title you come up

with is among their holdings.

In any case, it appears that Rev. Enoch Pratt, the clergyman, was the uncle of

Enoch Pratt, the philanthropist.

Henry Scannell

Curator of Microtext and Newspapers

Boston Public Library

617-859-2018

From: Mary Somers

To: STUMPERS-L@crf.cuis.edu

Cc: MICROTEXT@mbln.lib.ma.us

Subj: Re: Rev. Enoch Pratt and the Charlestown Navy Yard

WOW!! Thank you so much!! This certainly seems to be the definitive answer, although I think I will try to find the exact title of the book, using your helpful tips!! Again, thank you SO MUCH!! I will give you credit, and hope that my father will be impressed that I even tried (we never stop looking for approval, do we?) Mary

MARY SOMERS

Reference Librarian

Harford Community College

Research Library

401 Thomas Run Road

Bel Air, MD 21015

msomers@.md.us

410-836-4232 (phone)

410-836-4198

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 19:32:37 -0800

From: Shari Haber

To: Joan Small , stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ?Dictionary of English Verbs

Here's one that we have in our library:

Beyer, Thomas R. 501 English verbs : fully conjugated in all the

tenses in a new easy-to-learn format, alphabetically arranged / by

Thomas R. Beyer, Jr.

Also Called Five hundred one English verbs

Five hundred and one English verbs

Publisher Hauppauge, NY : Barron's Educational Series, c1998.

Shari Haber

shaber@

----- Original Message -----

From: "Joan Small"

To:

Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 6:43 PM

Subject: ?Dictionary of English Verbs

> We have a student who wants to improve her vocabulary by using a

dictionary

> of English verbs. We have found several good websites, but she would

like a

> book. She is quite adamant that it deal only with verbs. Any ideas

on

> good titles to improve her "verbal" vocabulary?

>

> Joan Small

> Reference Department

> Mantor Library

> University of Maine at Farmington

> 116 South St.

> Farmington ME 04938

> (207)778-7226

> (207)778-7223(fax)

>

>

> **This message is intended for sole use by the recipient. Please do

not

> forward without permission of the original sender.**

>

>

Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 07:53:30 -0500 (EST)

From: "John P. Dyson"

To: Stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: dictionary of English verbs

>

Hi Joan,

She seems to require a synonym dictionary. If you can get her to surpress

her aversion to the other parts of speech, I would recommend J. I.

Rodale's THE SYNONYM FINDER. At $15 or less for the splendid paperback

edition (1,361 pp.), that comes to about .0002 cents per verb. She may

even develop a thing for the nouns and adjectives. Relationships take

attention and availability, I always say.

John Dyson

Spanish and Portuguese

Indiana University

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>

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@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:36:31 +1200

From: Graeme Rymill

To: jennifer.mccarty@colorado.edu, stumpers-l@cuis.edu

Subj: re: Bloomsbury group -- citation help

>Arnold Bennet's "The Fallow Fields of Fiction.

According to Arnold Bennett: an annotated bibliography 1887-1932 by Anita

Miller (New York, Garland, 1977) this was published in 3 parts:

"The Fallow Fields of Fiction. Academy. LX (June 15, 1901), 517-518. Signed

E.A.B."

"The Fallow Fields of Fiction. II. Academy. LX (June 29, 1901), 557-558."

"The Fallow Fields of Fiction. III. Academy. LXI (July 20, 1901), 57-58."

All three entries indicate they were reprinted in "Hynes (1968)". This

appears to be a reference to:

The author's craft : and other critical writings of Arnold Bennett. Edited

by Samuel Hynes (Lincoln : University of Nebraska Press, [1968])

>two essays by Sir Leslie Stephen: one is "What is Materialism" (1886) and

the other is something >with "Charlotte Bronte" in the title, first

published in 1892.

A search of COPAC () turned up:

Author(s): South Place Ethical Society (London, England)

Title Details: What is materialism? : a discourse delivered in South Place

Chapel ... March 21st, 1886 / by L. Stephen

Series: Publications ; 9

Publisher: London, 1886

Physical Desc.: 15 p ; 8vo

The Charlotte Bronte essay is probably the chapter entitled Charlotte Bronte

found in volume three of Hours in a library. My library has a 1909 edition

by the same publisher. Pages 1-28 in the 1909 edition contain the Bronte essay.

Again from COPAC:

Author(s): Stephen, Sir Leslie, 1832-1904

Title Details: Hours in a library / by Leslie Stephen

Vol.3

Edition: New edition with additions

Publisher: London : Smith, Elder & Co., 1892

Notes: In 3 vols

>I am also looking for an essay by Lytton Strachey which is called

"Conscientious Objector." >(1914)

Could this be Strachey's address to the Hampstead Tribunal in 1916?

Lytton Strachey by John Ferns (Boston, Twayne, 1988) states on page 14:

"On March 7 Strachey appeared before a draft board in Hampstead and read a

declaration of conscientious objection. He demanded his exemption from

military service. It is one of Strachey's more convincing pieces of writing."

Two long paragraphs from the declaration are quoted. It is unclear if this

is the whole declaration or only part. I have been unsuccessful in

determining if this speech has been reprinted.

Graeme Rymill

Humanities & Social Sciences Library

University of Western Australia

>===========================================================================

=====

>Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 11:26:09 -0700

>From: "Jennifer E. McCarty"

>To: Stumpers

>Subj: Bloomsbury group -- citation help

>

>Hello everyone,

>

>I'm attempting to help a patron track down some essays about the

>Bloomsbury group. She has only modest citation information. I'm not

>very good at tracking down stuff this old. I would greatly appreciate a

>better citation for any of the essays mentioned below, or hints about

>where to look next.

>

>Thanks.

>

>Sources checked: WorldCat, internet, Stumpers archives

>

>Jennifer

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> I am also having trouble finding some essays that I also have limited info

>> on. One is Arnold Bennet's "The Fallow Fields of Fiction." The date I have

>> for that one is 1901. I am also looking for two essays by Sir Leslie

>> Stephen: one is "What is Materialism" (1886) and the other is something with

>> "Charlotte Bronte" in the title, first published in 1892. I am also looking

>> for an essay by Lytton Strachey which is called "Conscientious Objector."

>> (1914)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

>--

>Jennifer E. McCarty

>Humanities Reference and Instruction Librarian

>University of Colorado at Boulder

>jennifer.mccarty@colorado.edu

>303-492-8887

note: concentrate on bennet’s essay, a reprint of which may be included in EGLI 68?

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:16:40 -0500

From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell"

To: Jeff Imparato , STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: Boot scoot'n boogie, origin of song

The single from their first album, Brand New Man, that brought them into the

spotlight was the danceclub hit, "Boot Scootin' Boogie" (written by Ronnie

Dunn). This song literally made the duo's first album so unforgettable that

a clubmix version of that same song was included on their second album, Hard

Workin' Man. When a song of this magnitude and popularity exists for an

artist or group, the effort to "top" that single sometimes drags down any

future attempts.

from:

Lorie J. O'Donnell

Jervis Public Library Children's Room

Rome, NY 13440

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.

- Elbert Hubbard

> From: Jeff Imparato

> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:11:34 -0600

> To: "'STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu '"

> Subject: Boot scoot'n boogie, origin of song

>

> Greetings Stumper friends,

>

> I have a patron interested in the history of the line-dance song, "Boot

> scoot'n boogie." I've found instruction on how to do the actual dance, but

> not when it first came out. Dunn & Brooks has popularized it now, but did

> they write it?

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

> Jeff Imparato, Reference Librarian

> Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library

INFO CAN BE DERIVED FROM WORLD CAT, WWHICH LEADS TO ORIGINAL ALBUM AND IMPLIES THAT HINDS AND/OR DUNN WROTE IT

| |Brand new man |

| |Brooks & Dunn (Musical group) |

| |1991 |

| |English [pic] Sound Recording : Music : Country music : [pic] Cassette tape 1 sound cassette : analog, stereo., Dolby |

| |processed. |

| |New York, NY : Arista, |

|Mark: |[pic] |

|Database: |WorldCat |

|Ownership: |Check the catalogs in your library. |

| |• Libraries that Own Item: 102 |

|Title: |Brand new man |

|Corp Author: |Brooks & Dunn (Musical group)  prf |

|Publication: |New York, NY :; Arista, |

|Year: |1991 |

|Description: |1 sound cassette :; analog, stereo., Dolby processed. |

|Language: |English |

|Standard No: |Publisher: 18658-4; Arista; 8658-4; Arista; Other: 7822186584 |

|Contents: |Brand new man (2:58) -- My next broken heart (2:55) -- Cool drink of water (3:05) -- Cheating on the |

| |blues (2:50) -- Neon moon (4:20) -- Lost and found (3:47) -- I've got a lot to learn (2:54) -- Boot |

| |scootin' boogie (3:16) -- I'm no good (3:07) -- Still in love with you (3:34). |

| |SUBJECT(S) |

|Descriptor: |Country music -- 1991-  |

|Note(s): |Lyrics on insert./ Arista 18658-4 or 8658-4./ Participants: Performed by Brooks & Dunn (Kix Brooks and |

| |Ronnie Dunn) with accompaniment./ Recorded at Tree Studio, Midtown Tone & Volume, and Soundshop, |

| |Nashville, Tenn. |

|Class Descrpt: |Dewey: 781.642 |

|Responsibility: |Brooks & Dunn. |

|Document Type: |Sound Recording |

|Entry: |19910918 |

|Update: |20011107 |

|Accession No: |OCLC: 24414161 |

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:01:44 -0800

From: Medford Reference Department

To: STUMPERS-L

Subj: Garbage incinerator

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--Boundary_(ID_cZcVvaHyey4/F12/tJSmzQ)

Content-type: text/plain

Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Hello,

We have a patron looking for instructions on how to build a sparkless garbage incinerator for burning garbage outdoors. I'm told people in the 30s and 40s were encouraged to build these to reduce pollution. We believe they are beehive or dome shaped.

We checked Mother Earth News, Google, Backwood Home, and How to do it books. Any leads would be good.

Thank you.

Sarah

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Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=DEC-MCS

Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 16:03:12 -0600

From: Daphne Drewello

To: Julia Wotipka ,

Subj: Re: Quotation stumper!

Julia Wotipka wrote

> "an army of empty phrases marching across the landscape in

> search of an idea"

>

> I'm thinking H.L. Mencken? I could be wrong....

According to



among other places, "His speeches left the impression

of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape

in search of an idea" was said about Warren Harding by

former Secretary of the Treasury William McAdoo.

There is also a quote there about Harding by Mencken.

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:58:10 +0800

From: timothypwee@.sg

To: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ? My Last Moving Day by the Monroe Brothers

A reader is looking for the lyrics to the song "My Last Moving Day" by the

Monroe Brothers. We unfortunately (and not surprisingly) do not have a lyrics

collection for American songs of the 1930s. Does anyone happen to have the

lyrics or would anyone be able to point us to a source for the lyrics?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Regards,

Timothy Pwee

Librarian

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:02:30 -0500

From: Julie Arnold

To: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: A Stumpers-L Question

What is the longest city name in the united states?

-----------------------------------------------------------

Julie Harding Arnold

Science & Technology Services Team

Liaison to the Computer Science and Aerospace Engineering

Departments

Coordinator of Reference Services

Engineering and Physical Sciences Library

University of Maryland Libraries

College Park, MD 20742

Email: jh276@umail.umd.edu

Voice: 301-405-9151

Fax: 301-405-9164

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:22:09 -0500

From: suekamm@

Sender: suekamm@

To: jh276@umail.umd.edu

Cc: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Longest city name?

Julie Arnold wrote:

What is the longest city name in the united states?

I don't know if it's still official, but El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora La

Reina de Los Angeles de Porcinucula (The town of Our Lady, Queen of

the Angels of little smoke) may certainly be close.

(You may know it better as L.A.)

--

Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-large,

Sue Kamm

Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000

Visit my home page:



email: suekamm@

"Good is not good when better is expected." -- Vin Scully

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:23:26 -0800

From: Ellen Cousins

To: Julie Arnold

Cc: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: A Stumpers-L Question

This site says (recursively):

An Internet web page claims that the longest town or city name in the U.

S. is WINCHESTER-ON-THE-SEVERN, Maryland, and that the longest

unhyphenated name in the U. S. is MOOSELOOKMEGUNTIC, a lake in Maine.

According to The Texas Almanac, DALWORTHINGTON GARDENS is the longest

place name in Texas. (Dalworthington Gardens is an island city

surrounded by Arlington. The name is derived from its proximity to

Dallas and Ft. Worth) [Charles Turner].



Ellen C.

Julie Arnold wrote:

> What is the longest city name in the united states?

>

>

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------

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> Fax: 301-405-9164

>

Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:43:12 -0800

From: Craig Miller

To: suekamm@

Cc: jh276@umail.umd.edu, STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: Longest city name?

I don't know if it's still official but I believe El Pueblo de

Nuestra Senora La Reina de Los Angeles de Porcinucula

was later changed to La Ciudad de... (The City of... )

Craig.

At 01:22 PM 11/13/2001 -0500, suekamm@ wrote:

>

>

>Julie Arnold wrote:

>

> What is the longest city name in the united states?

>

>I don't know if it's still official, but El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora La

>Reina de Los Angeles de Porcinucula (The town of Our Lady, Queen of

>the Angels of little smoke) may certainly be close.

>

>(You may know it better as L.A.)

>--

>Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-large,

>Sue Kamm

>Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000

>Visit my home page:

>

>email: suekamm@

>"Good is not good when better is expected." -- Vin Scully

>

>

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:08:41 -0800 (PST)

From: Mary Lou White

To: Julie Arnold

Cc: "STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu"

Subj: Re: A Stumpers-L Question

I'd guess that Truth or Consequences, NM would be in the running.

Mary Lou White

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Julie Arnold wrote:

> What is the longest city name in the united states?

Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:51:00 -0800

From: Sue Watkins

To: Julie Arnold

Cc: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: A Stumpers-L Question

Here are some thoughts on ...l o n g... city names

1. El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de Los Angeles de la Porciuncula,

California (if it is still official, Los Angeles if not)

2. La Villa Real de la Santa Fe de San Francisco de Asis, New Mexico

(if it is still official, Santa Fe if not)

3. Winchester-on-the-Severn, Maryland (24 characters with hyphens, 21

without, no spaces)

4. Dalworthington Gardens, Texas (21 characters, no spaces)

--

Sue Watkins

suewatkins@ - email

(703) 234-3954 x9332 - voicemail/fax

---- Julie Arnold wrote:

> What is the longest city name in the united states?

>

>

Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:51:00 -0800

From: Sue Watkins

To: Julie Arnold

Cc: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: A Stumpers-L Question

Here are some thoughts on ...l o n g... city names

1. El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de Los Angeles de la Porciuncula,

California (if it is still official, Los Angeles if not)

2. La Villa Real de la Santa Fe de San Francisco de Asis, New Mexico

(if it is still official, Santa Fe if not)

3. Winchester-on-the-Severn, Maryland (24 characters with hyphens, 21

without, no spaces)

4. Dalworthington Gardens, Texas (21 characters, no spaces)

--

Sue Watkins

suewatkins@ - email

(703) 234-3954 x9332 - voicemail/fax

---- Julie Arnold wrote:

> What is the longest city name in the united states?

>

>

>

Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:26:34 -0500

From: Julie Arnold

To: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Winner--""longest city name""

Thanks to everyone who answered. The longest name any of us

could find is:

Leisure Village West-Pine Lake Park, NJ, with 39 characters.

-Julie

>

Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:00:37 -0500

From: Dan Robinson

To: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: RE: Winner--""longest city name""

I don't know if I would call this a 'city'. It's really just a populated

place (aka a retirement village) inside the town of Lakehurst, NJ.

Dan Robinson

drobinson@

(local knowledge, I grew up in the region)

Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:34:52 +0000

From: Jim Long

To: stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: %RE: longest city name

My copy of "The Columbia Gazeteer of the World" concludes their entry for

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychllantsiliogogogoch with the statement: "longest

place name IN NORTHERN HEMISPHERE"!! Unfortunately, they don't say what the

longest place name in the Southern Hemisphere is.

Cheers,

Jim Long

Hawaii State Library

Honolulu

Rephrase question to verify that the wells name is the longest

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:41:54 -0800

From: "DeFato, Joan"

To: 'martin koszegi' , stumpers-L@cuis.edu

Subj: RE: Irish ballad lyrics source

Some information is here: . I

don't have Irish Melodies so I can't check further.

Joan DeFato

Plant Science Library

The Arboretum of Los Angeles County

301 North Baldwin Avenue

Arcadia, CA 91007-2697

Phone: (626) 821-3213 Fax: (626) 445-1217

-----Original Message-----

From: martin koszegi [mailto:martinkoszegi@]

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:20 PM

To: stumpers-L@cuis.edu

Subject: Irish ballad lyrics source

I seek MLA-satisfying (including page number, if

possible) source data for the following:

The minstrel boy to the war is gone

In the ranks of death you'll find him.

His father's sword he hath girded on

And his wild harp slung behind him.

"Land of song," said the warrior bard,

"Tho all the world betrays thee,

One sword at least thy rights shall guard,

One faithful harp shall praise thee."

Thanks. --Marty.

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:55:53 -0800

From: Shari Haber

To: martin koszegi , stumpers-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: Irish ballad lyrics source

That would be Thomas Moore's 'The Minstrel Boy". One place it can be

found is on pages 475-476 of Duncan's "Lyrics From the Old Song Book".

If you have Granger's Corefiche, it's on fiche 1 of #6328-4.

Shari Haber

MCLS Reference

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:45:13 -0500

From: Phalbe Henriksen

To: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: ?Dominican Alliance of Services (New York City office?)

I have a patron who is looking for the address of the New York City office

(doesn't know if this is the main office) of the Dominican Alliance of

Services. He'd like to make a donation. We have few (to no) print resources

for this and I can't find them on the web.

I'm back on after a long spell off the list. I hope this hasn't been

covered yet. I couldn't get into the archives.

TIA

Phalbe Henriksen

Director

Bradford County Public Library

Starke, FL

Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:43:09 -0800

From: Ellen Cousins

To: Phalbe Henriksen

Cc: STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ?Dominican Alliance of Services (New York City office?)

Try this:

Alianza Dominicana, Inc. (Dominican Alliance)

Alianza Dominicana is the largest and most comprehensive social

service agency in Washington Heights/Inwood and the largest Domnican

service agency in the country. It was founded in 1982 to serve Dominican

immigrants. The non-profit agency provides thousands of children and

families with the educational, vocational, counseling and recreational

tools. It has a an AIDS program that provides social work services to

individuals and families living with AIDS. It has a family center that

helps people who are dealing with stress and alcohol abuse, mental

retardation and helps them gain empowerment through positive social and

support networks. It has a day care and plans to open a child Mental

Health Clinic which will provide psychotherapy. It works hand-in-hand

with other other community-based organzations, private foundations, the

business community, and city, state and federal governments. For more

information, visit 2410 Amsterdam Ave., 4th floor or call: (212) 740-1960.



HTH

Ellen C.

Phalbe Henriksen wrote:

> I have a patron who is looking for the address of the New York City office

> (doesn't know if this is the main office) of the Dominican Alliance of

> Services. He'd like to make a donation. We have few (to no) print resources

> for this and I can't find them on the web.

>

> I'm back on after a long spell off the list. I hope this hasn't been

> covered yet. I couldn't get into the archives.

>

> TIA

>

> Phalbe Henriksen

> Director

> Bradford County Public Library

> Starke, FL

>

>

>

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:49:21 -0600

From: Daphne Drewello

To: Ted Nesbitt , stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ?Agra

Ted Nesbitt wrote

> Does anyone know the meaning of the word "Agra," the city in India wherein

> the Taj Mahal is located?

According to



To most visitors, Agra is the city of the Taj Mahal and of the Mughal

Emperors.Agra has its roots in ancient Hindu myths which called it Agrabana,

meaning paradise.

Hope that helps a little.

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:52:49 -0500

From: Jeanne Schramm

To: tedjnesbitt@

Cc: stumpers-L@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: Re: ?Agra

According to the website "Agra Fort," the word agra is based on the word agraban which means paradise in Sanscrit.

>Does anyone know the meaning of the word "Agra," the city in India wherein

>the Taj Mahal is located? It is not listed in any of our place names dictionaries, and I'm not even sure from which language it comes. The town was originally founded by the Mughals (Mogols?). Agra was also a province of India. I need to know its meaning and derivation. Our geography department has been searching, but they haven't found it either. A plea

>to the Agra website has gone unanswered.

>

>Thanks.

>

>Ted Nesbitt

>--

>

>

According to the Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon at



Entry agra

Meaning mfn. (fr. %{aGg} Un2.) , foremost , anterior , first , prominent ,

projecting , chief , best L. ; supernumerary L. ; (%{A}) f. [scil. %{rekhA}]

measure of amplitude (i.e. the distance from the extremity of the

gnomon-shadow to the line of the equinoctial shadow) Su1ryas. ; (%{am}) n.

foremost point or part ; tip ; front ; uppermost part , top , summit ,

surface ; point ; and hence , figuratively , sharpness ; the nearest end ,

the beginning ; the climax or best part ; goal , aim ; multitude L. ; a

weight , equal to a pala L. ; a measure of food given as alms L. ; (in

astron.) the sun's amplitude ; (%{am}) ind. in front , before , ahead of ;

(%{a4greNa}) ind. in front , before (without or with acc.) S3Br. ; (a4gre)

ind. in front , ahead of , in the beginning , first ; further on ,

subsequently , below (in a book) ; from - up to (%{A}) S3Br. , before (in

time) AitUp. &c. [cf. Gk. $].

Cle%ar as a {bell}, isn'$t it?

Daphne Drewello

Alfred Dickey Library

Jamestown, ND

Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:40:36 -0500

From: tedjnesbitt@ (Ted Nesbitt)

To: drewello@ (Daphne Drewello), stumpers-l@crf.cuis.edu,

Subj: RE: Re: ?Agra

Daphne: I got a lot of $ and % and & and other garbage in your message.

Other than that, it is as clear as a crystal clear bell.

Thanks to you and Jeanne, I tried the Cappeller Sanskrit dictionary at

. I couldn't find agraban or agrabana, but

agra is listed:

agra -- Meaning

n. front, top, summit, tip, point, upper part, surface; outbreak, beginning; the highest or best of anything.

I guess "paradise" IS "the best of anything."

Thanks.

Ted

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@@@@@@@@@@@@Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:47:51 -0500

From: "Baker, John"

To: "'Monblatt, Bruce'" ,

Subj: *Thanks for Answer to Help on a poem

Bruce,

Thanks for that prompt and accurate answer. Armed with the exact

name, I see that The Battle of Blenheim is online in various locations,

including .

John Baker

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Monblatt, Bruce [SMTP:Bruce.Monblatt@]

> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:59 AM

> To: 'Baker, John'; 'STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu'

> Subject: RE: ?Help on a poem

>

> This is Robert Southey's Battle of Blenheim.

>

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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:43:12 -0500

From: ibbetson

To: "Baker, John"

Cc: "'STUMPERS-L@cuis.edu'"

Subj: Re: ?Help on a poem

At 16/11/2001 11:49 -0500, Baker, John wrote:

> The young man or men ask him what made it so

> > glorious, and the old man replies that he doesn't know but they said it

> > was

> > glorious.

It sounds like "The Battle of Blenheim" by Robert Southey

'And everybody praised the Duke,

Who this great fight did win.'

'But what good came of it at last?'

Quoth little Peterkin.

'Why that I cannot tell,' said he,

'But 'twas a famous victory.'

David ib

_______________________________________________________________

David Ibbetson * 133 Wilton Street * Unit 506 * Toronto M5A 4A4

mailto:isserlis@

from 22November 2001 mailto:isserlis@

Phone:(416)363-6692 Cel:(416)831-6692 Fax:(416)363-4987

Think about converting this to a historical atlas question

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:52:35 -0800

From: BLIC

To: Daphne Drewello

Cc: stumpers-list@crf.cuis.edu

Subj: ! Conrad Kohrs Warren

Daphne Drewello wrote:>

> Patron has requested an ILL on something called "Night of the Great Circle" by Conrad Kohrs Warren, who was a big rancher in Montana.

***********

Database: ReadersGuideAbs

Author(s): Warren, Conrad Kohrs.

Title: Night of the great circle. tie that binds man and beast

Source: Reader's Digest v. 127 (Nov. '85) p. 98-103 Journal

Abstract: During a lonely night in the wild, a lifelong rancher

is visited in a dream by all the animals he has ever

known and loved.

Article Type: feature article

Accession No: BRGA85060192

Chris Gallery

Information Center of the Black Gold Cooperative Library System

c/o Santa Barbara Public Library

P.O. Box 1019

Santa Barbara, CA 93102

Phone: (805) 963-1397 Fax: (805) 962-1840 email: bginfo@

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:37:07 -0800

From: Sue Watkins

To: Craig Miller

Cc: Stumpers-L

Subj: %%%+1 Re: Christmas Cards Origin (source)

To add to David Ibbetson's contrabution, Britannica Online is the source

of the story. They say that during the Middle Ages of Europe, wood engravers

produced prints with religious themes, but John Callcott Horsley's cards

made for his friend Sir Henry Cole in England in 1843, were the first

'Christmas cards' as we know them now.

--

Sue Watkins

suewatkins@ - email

(703) 234-3954 x9332 - voicemail/fax

---- Craig Miller wrote:

> The internet/e-mail information service sent out the following

> bit of historical trivia. They included no sources. Is this story

> correct? Is this how Christmas Cards came to be?

>

>

> Q: How did Christmas cards come to be?

>

> A: Henry Cole, an Englishman, was too busy to write

> personal greetings for Christmas 1843. Cole hired artist

> John Calcott Horsley to design a ready to be sent card.

> The hand-colored card Horsley designed was lithographed

> on stiff, dark cardboard and featured adults and children

> raising wine glasses in a toast. The first Christmas card

> also had various religious symbols. Sprigs of holly

> symbolized chastity, while ivy symbolized places God had

> walked. Feeding and clothing the poor were also

> encouraged on the card's cover. Under the picture was

> written "A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you."

> Printed in an edition of 1,000, Horsley's card was sold in

> London stores. Only one of those cards exists today.

>

>

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Craig Miller Wolfmill Entertainment craig@

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

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