REDEMPTION AS METHOD PROCESS

REDEMPTION AS METHOD PROCESS

send the A4V'd bills directly to the IRS at the following address w/out the use of a notary:

IRS Technical Support Division c/o Treasury UCC Contract Trust Internal Revenue Service 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20220

The recent address that seems to be working more than others is:

Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division Box 192 Covington, Kentucky 41012

The other one

Internal Revenue Service Stop 4440 P.O. Box 9036 Ogden, Utah 84201

The following is a synopsis of a process that is currently working. It appears to be a mix of a Winston Shrout, HJR Bonds and Jack Smith Process that is currently en Vogue. How long will it work? ` Only time will tell.

***please note, that this process has a fatal flaw in it, and as such will require a patch***

Doug Rilddle on his A4V Process

This is a collection of thoughts concerning Accepted for Value (AFV) or (A4V)

In my opinion and until I hear something different, you use AFV on debts not purchases. If it is a debt, AFV it. If it is a purchase, stay away.

Rent is a purchase, you usually put first, and last months rent upfront, so you are always prepaying, same thing with phones. You cannot go out and purchase cars, boats, homes, and food using AFV.

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In addition- Government requirements become debts rather quickly, court order, taxes, traffic tickets etc., and in general can never be considered purchasing. With Court docs I suggest AFV both sides, even if one is blank, I've heard mention that one side is criminal and another is civil. I don't know if that is true- you want to test it and let me know, otherwise AFV both sides.

Turn one side into a Money Order and if you do not know the amount- leave it blank and let the IRS determine it, or the courts. Courts I hear are banks, they should know and a few do know what to do with these but some want to give you grief. Send it to the IRS if the courts wont. The reason to send AFV to the court is often, the courts send out bench warrants, etc and you do not want to cause a bigger hassle later on.

Utilities: in general, I see utilities as being quasi gov operations, their statement looks a lot like IRS statements and often highly regulated by the gov, thus can be AFV-ed. the problem lies in how long will it take? Or, if they will shut off your power, water etc. before the AFV is settled. Be creative. Maybe ask them for an estimate of what you will spend in a year- this is a quasi gov demand, so AFV the entire year. Continue to make your regular payments, until the account it balanced.

Since all payments, except courts, and even courts can, go to the IRS and you never ever notify the other party of what your doing- unless it is generic and vague, like, I have settled the liability, please check your records, this may have been settled by a special gov program. Moreover, as only the IRS knows what you are doing, there will be little to no hassles from the other party.

I believe the IRS agents that handle the AFVs are thrilled we are doing it. Finally, the national deficit is being removed- as I feel all AFVs is using our credit and thus eliminating an equal portion right off the top of the national deficit, every time we AFV it makes our FRN's system stronger- maybe not enough to be noticed by a bug but better then making it weaker. This, I believe, is why these special agents were hired for- to get the AFVs and settle debt accounts. We are keeping them employed so they can feed their families, they are happy that they are not thought of as some evil villain out to destroy our lives but there to help in the only way this insane system will allow. Businesses keep running, less complaints in the world, people can still continue to play, learn, work- in this world of hell that money creates. They are as close to being an angel as any devil in a satanic gov can possibly get. Just remember, all governments are against God (even the republic as it is not the kingdom of heaven), mammonism is against God and all currency is based in fraud- heaven wont use money. Thus what we are really doing when we AFV is- forgiving their sins against us, and they see it as they are forgiving our debts. Therefore, when they get AFVs they are excited and are getting overwhelmed with more and more people doing AFVs.

Until you have proof that they are being vicious or mean by not doing your AFVs fast enough, remember they have a mountain of these coming in and they are doing the best they can. I think eventually, they will open more offices to handle all of these AFVs- so give them time. Protect yourself by sending in a second AFV to a different IRS address- one of the current three- just to be sure, it was not lost or overlooked.

So mortgages, student loans, loans- these are all debts.

I heard Shrout say in response to another- if you do not have the original bill- send a copy- if you don't have a copy, write it out on a piece of paper- just make sure all the information

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needed is on it. What is the most important thing in all three- original, copy, and paper? YOUR signature; your exemption; your account information. If in doubt- AFV it, if it is not AFV-able they will ignore it. If you go to a car dealer, you may wind up in jail but so far, the IRS ignores UN AFV-able things. Nevertheless, do think.

Can you AFV your neighbor's stuff? ANY DEBT - yes. Do they care where it comes from? No, their goal is to settle accounts. Can you write a check for your neighbor and pay that way? Yes- but do teach them- do not feed them, teach them how to farm- not how to pull up a carrot.

Can corporations AFV- No - the dead and imaginary things has no method to operate a pen. Can you AFV in behalf of a corporation- yeah as long as you are alive and have a pen and paper.

Does it have to be Red with blue ink- my letter stamps use black ink- it worked. I saw people using all red even for their signatures- it worked. I have done all blue and it worked. I think it is good practice to print in red and sign in blue. IF you have problems, this is one place to look, what color and how did you sign?

Remember- this is my opinion. I have no idea what the IRS does or why. I make assumptions based on results. Do I know the IRS is happy when they see these- no. However, why not assume the best until you know differently? Do you know they have voodoo dolls of you with pins in them? Do you know they do this unwillingly? I assume they love it- make them happy- make them proud to be one of the good people in the IRS matrix. They are there to serve- give them commands!

Also check out October 29 2009 Discussion on AFV



I have used AFV to settle my debts with hospitals, approx 30,000 worth. I used this to settle collection demands, about 5,000 maybe less. I used this to settle ODOR Taxes and IRS taxes. Without any direct attempt by me, federal tax liens were released. Of course, that could be due to the bonds I put in place or maybe it was AFV tax related. I do not know- I don't care- it's released. How long did it take- I don't know, didn't pay attention. I noticed the phones stopped ringing within two months. However, it stopped before that but I only noticed it after two months - like- gees it has been a long time since I have been harassed....

No letters from IRS or ODOR or for that matter from the hospitals or collection agencies.

What process did I use- a modified one from . Included are things I do not use, like a cover letter or affidavit - is it necessary? I often do not use these; it depends on the importance... But it is there if you feel the need. In addition, some of the HJR Bonds samples show the exemption number is SS with dashes, I think it is the SS# without dashes and the ALL CAP name uses the SS# with dashes- always- that is my opinion.

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I treat all debts as taxes- they all go to the IRS- all- hospital bills, collection agency, state taxes- ALL goes to the IRS- no exceptions. Others use different methods- so pick your method and use it. This is what I did; you do not have to do it this way.

Write this on the voucher/coupon/pay stub If there is not a voucher/coupon/bill stub to use treat the whole letter as a voucher- and do not use the- This is a Money Order! (as does the HJR Bonds sample)

Just say-

Money Order (see sample) Pay to the UNITED STATE TREASURY (Write out the amount of the debt) 333.33 dollars (Spell it) three hundred thirty three and 33/100 dollars (Kind of like a check- yeah....) By: (sign your name in blue) on the lower right. and under your autograph write Authorized Representative (you can use agent or what ever. As far as that goes you only need by: or AR - you do not need both- I use both). SS# without dashes- or the methods of your choicesome use the number on the back- be consistent. Endorse the back. I may have 2 to 5 signatures on my paper work. AFV every page - if there is writing on the back- AFV over it. Endorse all MOs (sign the backs (vouchers- if you treat it like a voucher- sign it like it was a voucher- like a check)

I do not have the usual monthly expenses- like garbage, water etc. so I have not tried this on that, nor do I have credit cards. I do have Comcast and have not had success in AFV-ing them as of yet. I have AFVed 40, to 50 thousands so far- I wont complain too much about Comcast.

Have I called and confirmed the debt was settled? NO. Why would I? No bills, nothing on my credit report, no collection activity- why would I care? No one is asking for money. So, maybe I still owe them and they all got together the same months and all decided to play a joke on me and are just waiting to re-bill me- it's been over a year- how long do you think they will wait before saying- ZAPRIZE-A_ROONIE, you still owe us! HA!

I went to us tax court and won- they wanted money and they got none, they lost jurisdictionHA! However, knowing what I now know- I would AFV it all and save myself many headaches. AFV is so simple and easy...

So is that clear? yes I sign the backs, and I have used thumb print over the last half of my last name- but not all the time. I have used both red and blue thumb print ink and even used both colors on the same AFV doc. It's all so pretty, lately it's seems to be a lot of hassle, so I haven't been doing it.

If it is not a tax specific issue, I would not use the verbiage on the backs of sample just sign your name or make it payable to the company. If it is a tax matter- use it or not. I generally just endorse it with only my name.

1040V and form 56 are not necessary but they do not hurt. I also had bonds, I sometimes will put my offset bond number on it- sometimes I forget. Others do it without- so it is just a me thing.

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The first bonds I got were from , this is the number I sometimes will use on my bonds. I also have Turner style bonds.

Type in red. Sign in blue, follow the sample. The postage stamp is optional- depends on what your doing. Or how important it is. The more important the more things to consider adding.

AFV at 45 degrees I don't care which way it is pointingMO done horizontally (this type you are reading is horizontal) Do they have to be- I dunno- try it differently let us know

I have used a stamp- the kind that you have to put all the little letters on a tray- in case you need to change it someday- and that of course was self inking- black and it seemed to work as well. I use the stamp for that which can not be put into the printer. Do I handwrite it out? Yes and No, depends on my mood. If I do one or two I may handwrite as it is quicker. If there are many, I use printer- sometimes Times New Roman font- or whatever, anywhere between 8 pt and 48 pt- it all depends. I want them able to read it. I have also used a handwriting font to fool them into thinking it's handwritten- I am sure I had me fooled....

And the most important of all- Pray- having God in your corner is a good thing Also consider forgiving your enemies, hating your enemies is easy, nothing good is ever easy

Doug

Doug Riddle on Angela Stark's Talkshoe ID# 39904 Doug's web site:

Dec 12, 2009 send these to certain addresses at IRS:

The process is fairly simple: Accepted for value, exempt from levy Sign your name, date it, your exemption number deposit to the US Treasury for STRAWMAN NAME, STRAWMAN ACCOUNT (see example on web site)

The big difference I do from others is I don't bother sending it back to whomever sent it to me, or to the corporation. I send it to the IRS; either, the Ogden address, Covington KY address, or DC address. These people seem to know what they are doing and when I send them there, my debts are cleared. When other people send them other places we hear about frivolous penalty letters, it opens a can of worms, people get in trouble and all hell breaks loose.

Send to the above 3 addresses, it goes away. There's got to be something real about it and it's going to people who know what they are doing. You can send a letter and kind of force/shove it down the throats of the CEOs and CFOs of the corporations. Some of them take it and some don't'. when they don't you're battling all kinds of problems. It's just a mess.

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*******THE PATCH>>>>>> Change the Pay To: (line) on the Money Order Section of the Statement to the Creditor Receiving the Funds.

+++++ADD a 1040V (fillable form off the google group, with the following A4V

languaging on the left side of the form as follows:

ACCEPTED FOR VALUE

}

RED

EXEMPT FROM LEVY

}

ALL

PAY TO: U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY }

CAPS

EXCLUSION ID: 123456789

}

06/10/10

}

On the right side: _____________________________ AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE (all in blue, with your mark on line) ................
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