Skype Chat – Skype /help
[6:52:06 AM] Allmas Mullah: wait ...AJ let me first clear wat ur looking for[6:52:30 AM] Allmas Mullah: i think ur obj was to test user friendliness of skype[6:52:35 AM] Allmas Mullah: rite?[6:52:40 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: no[6:52:41 AM] Allmas Mullah: skype help[6:53:00 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I am searching for any documentation which tells me what / and word[6:53:04 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: do and why they do[6:53:22 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: or rather something which inform the user abt / & word[6:53:23 AM] Allmas Mullah: rite but isnt the parent obj then testing for user friendliness of help?[6:53:27 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: no[6:53:30 AM] Allmas Mullah: how[6:53:36 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: what how?[6:53:48 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: i don't care abt the user friendliness of skype right now[6:53:49 AM] Allmas Mullah: why ru looking for explanation of /[6:54:09 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: to know what is the it & why is it so[6:54:29 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: Did iI ever mention in this chat abt user friendliness of skype[6:54:40 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I thought I always highlighted /[6:55:05 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok but so far we have deduced tht /word gives list of commands and tht any skype command begins with /[6:55:07 AM] Allmas Mullah: rite?[6:55:19 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: how did you write that[6:55:26 AM] Allmas Mullah: write?[6:55:26 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: without triggering the commands[6:55:38 AM] Allmas Mullah: coz my sentence did not begin with /[6:55:44 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: oh ya[6:55:50 AM] Allmas Mullah: so am i rite?[6:55:58 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: yes, agree :)[6:56:02 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok now next ques[6:56:16 AM] Allmas Mullah: if we know this info, why r we looking at skype to tell us this[6:56:22 AM] Allmas Mullah: in laymans terms[6:56:30 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: there might be more info on this[6:56:47 AM] Allmas Mullah: when it is telling us tht ... Does Skype for Windows have command line options? YES[6:56:49 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: which we might not know[6:57:38 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok another point of view .... if u n I hv prg knwledge then we'd knw tht to trigger a command we'd need to use /smthing[6:58:03 AM] Allmas Mullah: ru getting my point?[6:58:12 AM] Allmas Mullah: or rather can u elaborate ur point[6:58:18 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: [6:57 AM] Allmas Mullah: <<< prg = pairing?[6:58:22 AM] Allmas Mullah: na[6:58:24 AM] Allmas Mullah: programming[6:58:39 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ok :)[6:58:48 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: funny situation[6:58:53 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I knew that it allows.[6:59:01 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and you too told that it allows[6:59:16 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: but I did not go to the page where it says it allows[6:59:36 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: now that I have gone, I got another word[6:59:42 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and an idea too[6:59:46 AM] Allmas Mullah: wat[6:59:57 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: fgh /word will not trigger command list[7:00:05 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: unless that word is not a command[7:00:08 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: agree?[7:00:14 AM] Allmas Mullah: lemme try[7:00:28 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: try /nospalsh[7:00:32 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: for ex[7:00:38 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: as start of sentence[7:00:42 AM] Allmas Mullah: fgh /get creator[7:00:56 AM] Allmas Mullah: na.. it doesnt work[7:01:10 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: what i feel is there are 10 commands (example)[7:01:13 AM] Allmas Mullah: cmd has to be at start of sent[7:01:44 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: whenever user types any text other than those ten commands, it displays all commands (10 here) & asks user to choose from this[7:01:56 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: agree syntax also will be right, no prob with that[7:02:06 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: i am talking the next step after right syntax[7:02:24 AM] Allmas Mullah: ru saying tht if it is a valid command then it can be placed in middle of sentence and still work?[7:02:33 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: no no[7:02:39 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: if its a valid command[7:02:45 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: it will execute the command[7:02:49 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: & not display the list[7:03:09 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and we don't have the full list of valid commands right now[7:03:34 AM] Allmas Mullah: AJ ... ru saying tht "ajay typed /whois " will execute comand whois?[7:03:46 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: if its valid in skype[7:03:48 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: yes[7:03:59 AM] Allmas Mullah: the answer is no, it wont execute it[7:04:05 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: so, its not valid[7:04:05 AM] Allmas Mullah: even if it is valid command[7:04:13 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: or its not in right syntax[7:04:16 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: or position[7:04:21 AM] Allmas Mullah: syntax[7:04:33 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ya I have no problems with that[7:04:41 AM] Allmas Mullah: wat does tht mean[7:04:49 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I am saying if everything else is right - syntax is right,[7:04:56 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: the command is valid[7:05:02 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: then what will it do?[7:05:07 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: list out or execute?[7:05:21 AM] Allmas Mullah: ru saying "ajay typed /whois ajay187f" a valid command?[7:05:35 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I don't know right now[7:05:47 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: coz I don't know if /whois is a valid command[7:05:54 AM] Allmas Mullah: it is na ...[7:05:59 AM] Allmas Mullah: its given in the list[7:06:09 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: can you pooint me to the url or doc where it says its valid[7:06:16 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ok, please point[7:06:16 AM] Allmas Mullah: [7:06:19 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: thanks.[7:06:40 AM] sys: member: ajay184frole: CREATORsubscribed: YESbanned: NOonline locations:[7:06:50 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: yes, it gave full details[7:06:55 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: it executed the command[7:07:14 AM | Edited 7:07:19 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: is there a confusion here?[7:07:18 AM] Allmas Mullah: all im saying is for a command to execute it must be a valid command (from list) and ur syntax must be right i.e. command MUST begin with /[7:07:28 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ok, agree[7:07:33 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: so what are we arguing on[7:07:38 AM] Allmas Mullah: [7:05 AM] Allmas Mullah: <<< ajay typed /whois ajay187f"[7:07:43 AM] Allmas Mullah: did this execute?sys[7:07:59 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: it gave blank[7:08:03 AM] Allmas Mullah: blank????[7:08:10 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: coz there might not be a user with id ajay187f[7:08:19 AM] Allmas Mullah: wats ur userid[7:08:23 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ajay184f[7:08:26 AM] Allmas Mullah: oh[7:08:46 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok so try "ajay typed /whois ajay184f'[7:08:53 AM | Edited 7:09:03 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: yes, it executes command[7:08:57 AM] Allmas Mullah: ajay typed /whois ajay184f[7:09:01 AM] Allmas Mullah: noooooooooo[7:09:05 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: boo[7:09:07 AM] Allmas Mullah: it does not na[7:09:08 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: give the syntax[7:09:20 AM] Allmas Mullah: where u typed?[7:09:23 AM] Allmas Mullah: its not even showing[7:09:26 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: here[7:09:31 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: lol[7:09:37 AM] Allmas Mullah: :([7:09:42 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: why will it show my help answer to everyone[7:09:50 AM] Allmas Mullah: come on[7:09:52 AM] Allmas Mullah: really?[7:09:55 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: you try /whois ajay184f[7:10:11 AM] Allmas Mullah: can u see my o/p[7:10:12 AM] Allmas Mullah: ?[7:10:14 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: no[7:10:20 AM] Allmas Mullah: AJ cheater[7:10:20 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: which is perfect acc to me[7:10:24 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: what cheater?[7:10:42 AM] Allmas Mullah: i asked u to type "ajay typed /whois ajay184f"[7:10:48 AM] Allmas Mullah: and u just typed /whois ...[7:10:54 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: oh comeon[7:10:56 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: i know[7:11:01 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and we came to conclusion[7:11:06 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: that / has to be at first[7:11:10 AM] Allmas Mullah: boss, this is wat we were arguing abt na[7:11:11 AM] Allmas Mullah: :D[7:11:15 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: why are we goin g back from what we know[7:11:19 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: no[7:11:21 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok good[7:11:24 AM] Allmas Mullah: phew[7:11:27 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: he he[7:11:36 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: What I want to convey is[7:11:48 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: if the word after / is not a valid command[7:12:08 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and it is in right syntax - that means / is at beginning of sentence or new line in this case[7:12:17 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and no space between / & word[7:12:27 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: then the whole list will pop up[7:12:30 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: agree?[7:12:35 AM] Allmas Mullah: perfect[7:12:47 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: That's all my honor[7:12:49 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: :)[7:12:51 AM] Allmas Mullah: LOL[7:12:59 AM] Allmas Mullah: so the point is? [7:13:29 AM] Allmas Mullah: of this conclusion[7:13:31 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ok[7:13:37 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: lets get three points[7:14:08 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: 1. /at start of text is the right syntax to trigger/execute commands[7:14:15 AM] Allmas Mullah: waitttttttttt[7:14:22 AM] Allmas Mullah: we know the how ....[7:14:30 AM] Allmas Mullah: but why is this info imp to us[7:14:32 AM] Allmas Mullah: or to u[7:14:38 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: to use it[7:14:41 AM] Allmas Mullah: how will u use it[7:14:43 AM] Allmas Mullah: in a blog[7:14:55 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: i will use it to launch multiple instances of skype[7:15:14 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ok, in blog - i will use this discussion as to how we investigated an issue[7:15:28 AM] Allmas Mullah: wat was the trigger of this discovery[7:15:35 AM] Allmas Mullah: was it a concious search at ur end[7:15:35 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: how we fell into beautiful trap of not knowing what other wants to convey[7:15:47 AM] Allmas Mullah: why did u write tht sentence /mmmm/ in the first palce[7:15:50 AM] Allmas Mullah: place[7:15:52 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ok[7:16:01 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: y'day there was a testers chat[7:16:11 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I wanted to highlight[7:16:16 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: few words[7:16:22 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and the sentence is unedited[7:16:36 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok and ......[7:16:40 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: does this answer your question[7:16:46 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok[7:16:52 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and i got the commands instead of the sentence being displayed[7:16:59 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: shock to me[7:17:02 AM] Allmas Mullah: ok[7:17:11 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: so i recollected what i wrote[7:17:20 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and saved in a notepad to investigate later------[7:19:49 AM] Allmas Mullah: [7:15 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: <<< how we fell into beautiful trap of not knowing what other wants to convey explain this to me please [7:20:55 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: I wanted to tell that[7:21:03 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: basket full of commands[7:21:18 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: will be displayed if word is not valid command[7:21:36 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: and you were talking about command in between of sentence[7:21:40 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: agree?[7:22:20 AM] Allmas Mullah: coz i thot u were saying tht[7:22:33 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: ya, that's y i told: how we fell into beautiful trap of not knowing what other wants to convey[7:22:44 AM] Allmas Mullah: hmm[7:23:00 AM] Allmas Mullah: but we had such an open communication[7:23:05 AM] Allmas Mullah: i guess tht helps[7:23:11 AM] Allmas Mullah: come out of traps[7:23:28 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: you know the best part of our conv is we don't keep anything in mind[7:23:36 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: coz we know each other before hand[7:23:43 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: i have seen many conv[7:23:50 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: where people don't say something[7:24:00 AM] Allmas Mullah: ya we r not afraid to ask 'why'[7:24:04 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: if you ask in private as a facilitator, they tell an essay[7:24:12 AM] Allmas Mullah: hmmm[7:24:23 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: :)[7:24:47 AM] Ajay Balamurugadas: we are not even thinking who is right or who is wrong here[7:24:48 AM] Allmas Mullah: it was fun[7:24:53 AM] Allmas Mullah: rite ................
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