RMC Meeting Agenda - Wichita meeting 3/11/03



RMC Meeting Agenda –

Wichita meeting

June 11 – 12, 2003

Meeting overall schedule: [pic]

RMC will meet Tuesday 6/10 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM

And Wednesday 8:00 AM - 11:00 AM

Tuesday 6/10/03 note minutes of the meeting are in red.

8:00 AM - 8:45 AM

RMC 101 - a presentation by Mike Roberts on the Basics of the RMC and the Americas system - good as a refresher or for new attendees

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8:45 AM RMC Meeting starts - CLOSED SESSION - only actual RMC members and OEM representatives can attend at 8:45 AM

list of RMC members: [pic]

ATTENDEES:

|M. Roberts |Boeing |

|P. Trotochaud |P &W |

|A. Zina Correia |Embraer * rep for Brandao |

|R. Daugherty |RAB |

|R. Blake |BSI |

|T. Lee |Boeing |

|D. Gordon |Rolls-Royce |

|D. Buehler |GE |

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|Non RMC members | |

|Mike Gallagher |L-M |

|Carlos Alberto |CTA – Brazil |

|Ed Bayne |Boeing |

|Bart Walrath |AQA |

|Robert Collier |SGS |

|Walter Long |Tinker AFB/OC-ALC/ |

|Rick Downs |Textron/Cessna |

|Phil Abbott |LRQA |

|Terry Barber-Tournaud |UTC – P&W |

|Miguel Gaitan |BVQI |

|Phil Kuklas |TUV Essen |

|Tom Geer |Boeing |

|Jawed Khan |ISA |

|Brad Savage |KEMA |

|Shanya Salamaca |RAB |

|Fred Becker |Intertek |

|Richard Vinton |Raytheon |

|Darris L. Martin |L-M |

|Sid Vienna |DNV |

|Jay Myers |SAE |

|Mike Spencer |Vought |

|Roger Ritterbeck |QMI |

|Chuck Russo |ABS QE |

|Bernadette Martinez |ABS QE |

|Drew Dysinger |NSF – ISR |

|Bill Varner |AQC, LLC |

|Pete Kucan |PRI Registrar |

|Trudy Keaveney |NQA- USA |

|Jeff Carr |NQA-USA |

|Steve Buckwell |TUV America |

|Tony Marino |Boeing |

1.) Organizational issues - review organizational structure:

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2.) Election new Chairman RMC - ask for self nominees

Elected Mike Roberts as new Chair RMC. Other org changes: add Paul Trotochaud to Surveillance sub team; move Jay Park to Data Base team; add Rick Downs to Audit Approval team; Marshall Hickey to act as AAQG Sector Rep to OAQSIS data base.

3. Replacement of members

Review RMC 105 [pic]

Proposal by Cessna/Textron to replace DonB/GE on the RMC. Agreed to by Dale Gordon – temporary chair AAQG. RMC accepts Rick as replacement for DonB.

We discussed the process of affecting a suppliers AS 9100 approval when a CRB loses approval of our system.

Need a process for this. Action item: DonB & Mike Roberts to write.

9:30 AM OPEN SESSION - all RMC members and guests return for the meeting

4. Sub team reports

• Auditor Reviews - M. Roberts Auditor Process (Overview of different grades and different methods of becoming qualified) - Jeff Carr and Randy (I am going to ask Mike Roberts to participate)

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We discussed the process of getting auditors approved - reviewed a presentation on RAB improvements in the process.

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Action item: ABs & CRBs to define the qualification; documentation & evaluation criteria for a Qualified Witness Auditor (QWA). Team members: RAB; Trudy Keaveney (NQA); Reg Blake – (BSI) (Leader); Phil Abbott (LRQA); Roger Ritterbeck (QMI).

• Surveillance activity - T. Lee

Discussion on role of OEM personnel during surveillance - auditor or observer? These issues were discussed and resolved during the discussion & are captured in Tim’s pitch.

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• Data Base operation - M. Hickey

10:30 AM - 11:00 AM Extended break (time for RMC & visitors to mingle)

5. Review of action items list from last meeting

[pic] proposal on public web site: [pic]

Review of implementation actions for 5359B;

Review draft of DonB letter [pic]

Review of FAA response (Dale) Response rec’d to April presentation on IAQG/AAQG Other party program. FAA response was they had some issues relevant to hierarchy of documents, etc. We will need to reference some documents throughout - may change AIR 5359B to AS5359.

6. Training issue

[pic] We discussed & recommend that INMETRO & SCC utilize helpers with industry experience from local primes (Embraer & Bombardier, etc.)

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5493A revision will require a re write of the in-depth industry training. People can continue current training until Dec 1, 2003, before the changes must be made. BVQI and NQA have been alerted to this & they are working on the revisions.

Noon - 1:00 PM Lunch (On your own)

1:00 PM - - 2:30 PM continue meeting agenda

RAB proposal for course accreditation

Shanya Salamaca and Randy Dougherty

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We agreed with the proposal – with the exception of sun setting all existing courses on Dec 1, 2003. RAB agreed to change their date to coincide with Dec 1, 2003.

7. Update on scoring & training materials for CRB scoring. DonB

Need letter on scoring - updated with clarifications

Need letter + trng materials sent to AB for dist to CRBs

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We decided that we would encourage the CRBs to implement the training as soon as possible and start scoring 9100 audits then. We would not put a deadline on the implementation of scoring - except the Dec 1, 2003 deadline consistent with implementation of 5359B. Recognize that suppliers with European customers may require scoring now for their audit to be accepted.

2:30 – 3:00 PM extended break (time to mingle/discuss)

3:00 PM - 5:00 PM agenda continues

8. Review procedure 104 - yearly review

[pic] action item : DonB to post fro comment/vote on the RMC private WEB.

10.) Multi site facility question notes from the Wash DC Meeting –

initial & surveillance audits - RMC action to make a decision on this - RAB to generate Guide 62 reqmts - + IAAR to get a couple of examples - RMC may also need to define what is one site vs multi site. RMC to make a position on this by June meeting.

11.) SWOT Materials

We started looking at the SWOT material during the Wash DC March 2003 meeting & then on a conference call on 3/21/03

Did not finish the review off line.

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12. Open items - any new issues or concerns from anyone

Lessons Learned (info from suppliers) T. Keaveney [pic]

12. Next meetings:

September 8 – 10 Montreal, CANADA RMC mtg Sept 8

October 13 – 17 IAQG in Cincinnati, Ohio

Wednesday June 11th

8:00 AM Complete any remaining items from yesterday

We agreed to resolution 11 in reference to OEMs being able to suppress certain data for their facilities in the IAQG data base.

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OASIS live demonstration - IAQG data base

We are going to request that the data base be changed to allow the identification of witness auditors. Action item: Mike Roberts

11:00 AM meeting adjourn

At the end of the meeting, Randy Dougherty and Jeff Carr discussed the following with the members:

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Submitted:

DS Buehler, Chair RMC

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