RMC Meeting Agenda - Wichita meeting 3/11/03
RMC Meeting Agenda –
Wichita meeting
June 11 – 12, 2003
Meeting overall schedule: [pic]
RMC will meet Tuesday 6/10 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
And Wednesday 8:00 AM - 11:00 AM
Tuesday 6/10/03 note minutes of the meeting are in red.
8:00 AM - 8:45 AM
RMC 101 - a presentation by Mike Roberts on the Basics of the RMC and the Americas system - good as a refresher or for new attendees
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8:45 AM RMC Meeting starts - CLOSED SESSION - only actual RMC members and OEM representatives can attend at 8:45 AM
list of RMC members: [pic]
ATTENDEES:
|M. Roberts |Boeing |
|P. Trotochaud |P &W |
|A. Zina Correia |Embraer * rep for Brandao |
|R. Daugherty |RAB |
|R. Blake |BSI |
|T. Lee |Boeing |
|D. Gordon |Rolls-Royce |
|D. Buehler |GE |
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|Non RMC members | |
|Mike Gallagher |L-M |
|Carlos Alberto |CTA – Brazil |
|Ed Bayne |Boeing |
|Bart Walrath |AQA |
|Robert Collier |SGS |
|Walter Long |Tinker AFB/OC-ALC/ |
|Rick Downs |Textron/Cessna |
|Phil Abbott |LRQA |
|Terry Barber-Tournaud |UTC – P&W |
|Miguel Gaitan |BVQI |
|Phil Kuklas |TUV Essen |
|Tom Geer |Boeing |
|Jawed Khan |ISA |
|Brad Savage |KEMA |
|Shanya Salamaca |RAB |
|Fred Becker |Intertek |
|Richard Vinton |Raytheon |
|Darris L. Martin |L-M |
|Sid Vienna |DNV |
|Jay Myers |SAE |
|Mike Spencer |Vought |
|Roger Ritterbeck |QMI |
|Chuck Russo |ABS QE |
|Bernadette Martinez |ABS QE |
|Drew Dysinger |NSF – ISR |
|Bill Varner |AQC, LLC |
|Pete Kucan |PRI Registrar |
|Trudy Keaveney |NQA- USA |
|Jeff Carr |NQA-USA |
|Steve Buckwell |TUV America |
|Tony Marino |Boeing |
1.) Organizational issues - review organizational structure:
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2.) Election new Chairman RMC - ask for self nominees
Elected Mike Roberts as new Chair RMC. Other org changes: add Paul Trotochaud to Surveillance sub team; move Jay Park to Data Base team; add Rick Downs to Audit Approval team; Marshall Hickey to act as AAQG Sector Rep to OAQSIS data base.
3. Replacement of members
Review RMC 105 [pic]
Proposal by Cessna/Textron to replace DonB/GE on the RMC. Agreed to by Dale Gordon – temporary chair AAQG. RMC accepts Rick as replacement for DonB.
We discussed the process of affecting a suppliers AS 9100 approval when a CRB loses approval of our system.
Need a process for this. Action item: DonB & Mike Roberts to write.
9:30 AM OPEN SESSION - all RMC members and guests return for the meeting
4. Sub team reports
• Auditor Reviews - M. Roberts Auditor Process (Overview of different grades and different methods of becoming qualified) - Jeff Carr and Randy (I am going to ask Mike Roberts to participate)
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We discussed the process of getting auditors approved - reviewed a presentation on RAB improvements in the process.
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Action item: ABs & CRBs to define the qualification; documentation & evaluation criteria for a Qualified Witness Auditor (QWA). Team members: RAB; Trudy Keaveney (NQA); Reg Blake – (BSI) (Leader); Phil Abbott (LRQA); Roger Ritterbeck (QMI).
• Surveillance activity - T. Lee
Discussion on role of OEM personnel during surveillance - auditor or observer? These issues were discussed and resolved during the discussion & are captured in Tim’s pitch.
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• Data Base operation - M. Hickey
10:30 AM - 11:00 AM Extended break (time for RMC & visitors to mingle)
5. Review of action items list from last meeting
[pic] proposal on public web site: [pic]
Review of implementation actions for 5359B;
Review draft of DonB letter [pic]
Review of FAA response (Dale) Response rec’d to April presentation on IAQG/AAQG Other party program. FAA response was they had some issues relevant to hierarchy of documents, etc. We will need to reference some documents throughout - may change AIR 5359B to AS5359.
6. Training issue
[pic] We discussed & recommend that INMETRO & SCC utilize helpers with industry experience from local primes (Embraer & Bombardier, etc.)
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5493A revision will require a re write of the in-depth industry training. People can continue current training until Dec 1, 2003, before the changes must be made. BVQI and NQA have been alerted to this & they are working on the revisions.
Noon - 1:00 PM Lunch (On your own)
1:00 PM - - 2:30 PM continue meeting agenda
RAB proposal for course accreditation
Shanya Salamaca and Randy Dougherty
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We agreed with the proposal – with the exception of sun setting all existing courses on Dec 1, 2003. RAB agreed to change their date to coincide with Dec 1, 2003.
7. Update on scoring & training materials for CRB scoring. DonB
Need letter on scoring - updated with clarifications
Need letter + trng materials sent to AB for dist to CRBs
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We decided that we would encourage the CRBs to implement the training as soon as possible and start scoring 9100 audits then. We would not put a deadline on the implementation of scoring - except the Dec 1, 2003 deadline consistent with implementation of 5359B. Recognize that suppliers with European customers may require scoring now for their audit to be accepted.
2:30 – 3:00 PM extended break (time to mingle/discuss)
3:00 PM - 5:00 PM agenda continues
8. Review procedure 104 - yearly review
[pic] action item : DonB to post fro comment/vote on the RMC private WEB.
10.) Multi site facility question notes from the Wash DC Meeting –
initial & surveillance audits - RMC action to make a decision on this - RAB to generate Guide 62 reqmts - + IAAR to get a couple of examples - RMC may also need to define what is one site vs multi site. RMC to make a position on this by June meeting.
11.) SWOT Materials
We started looking at the SWOT material during the Wash DC March 2003 meeting & then on a conference call on 3/21/03
Did not finish the review off line.
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12. Open items - any new issues or concerns from anyone
Lessons Learned (info from suppliers) T. Keaveney [pic]
12. Next meetings:
September 8 – 10 Montreal, CANADA RMC mtg Sept 8
October 13 – 17 IAQG in Cincinnati, Ohio
Wednesday June 11th
8:00 AM Complete any remaining items from yesterday
We agreed to resolution 11 in reference to OEMs being able to suppress certain data for their facilities in the IAQG data base.
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OASIS live demonstration - IAQG data base
We are going to request that the data base be changed to allow the identification of witness auditors. Action item: Mike Roberts
11:00 AM meeting adjourn
At the end of the meeting, Randy Dougherty and Jeff Carr discussed the following with the members:
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Submitted:
DS Buehler, Chair RMC
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